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Problems with X10 and Other things from potential buyer

Hello, I have about 600 bucks to spend, and am thinking about this phone, before I buy I have a few questions.
-Have you had any problems with the phone?(battery, hardware, not turning on etc...) I want to know every problem you've ever had.
-Should I buy the unlocked international version which has no warranty or the US version with a 1 year warranty?
-Will the X10 US version work with T mobile for voice calling and text messaging? I dont plan on buying a 3g plan?
-For US customers only: If you've had a problem with it, did you have a manufacturer warranty(no other ones)? or was it without warranty as in you brought the international versions?
-What would be a good place to buy one? I'm thinking mobile city online, but would buy from another store if they carried the US version for a cheaper price.
-How are the games on this phone? I'm talking about the 3d games, would you say they're better than a 2nd gen itouch?

I guess you are too busy to actually read through the threads on the forum then? There are plenty of answers on here if you just bothered to look mate.

actually i have been looking, have found some issues with the battery, thats about it

apr1000 said:
actually i have been looking, have found some issues with the battery, thats about it
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there are several ways to slove the battery issue. in particular, the new firmware will solve it completely.
im not in US so im not able to answer most of your questions.
there is no perfect phone in the market. all is dependent on how you are going to use the phone and what functions and performences you are pursing.
in general, im happy with my X10.

I can't aneswer your US related questions either, but I can tell you that I'm more than happy with my X10i.
The battery was an issue right off the shelf, but after tweeking it a little, it'll last me close to 2 days. Which is more than enough for a smartphone.
Also, not sure how the deals work in the US when it comes to getting a 3g plan, but I can tell you this phone is meant to be used with a data connection. Of course Wifi could work just fine for you if you don't want to buy a data plan.
Either way you decide to use the phone, it'll surely work out quite nicely for you.

If you want to play games, go get an itouch.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

ok any other problems other than the battery?
your help is greatly appreciated
oh and i already have itouch, i saw some youtube videos of xperia x10 games, but not clear enough.
so my question is on a scale of 1 to 10 with 7 being the itouch 2nd generation, what would you rate the xperia x10 in terms of game graphics?

apr1000 said:
ok any other problems other than the battery?
your help is greatly appreciated
oh and i already have itouch, i saw some youtube videos of xperia x10 games, but not clear enough.
so my question is on a scale of 1 to 10 with 7 being the itouch 2nd generation, what would you rate the xperia x10 in terms of game graphics?
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Graphics wise? About 12. Much larger display, much higher resolution as well as a more powerful cpu and graphics chip.

You should post your question on Howard Forums, not XDA DEVELOPERS, you'll probably get more help especially regarding questions related to the US market.

Wileyfox Storm USB OTG Support?

Hi guys. So I'm considering buying a Wileyfox Storm because of the price/value ratio.
There's not much information that can be found about the phone regarding it's OTG support on the internet. Some comparison sites imply NOT, and other sites have something cryptic like USB OTG (TBC). LIKE WHAT?! For that matter, there's not that much info and support for the device at all, nevermind any nongeneric cases or covers.
Anyway since I couldn't find a definite answer, I wanted to ask the actual owners of the Storm if their device supports OTG if they've ever tried it. And if you haven't ever tried testing it, would you mind doing so?
Thanks guys!

I installed USB OTG Checker which showed my Storm has the USB OTG API. However I can't test for USB OTG Kernel or Driver Signal as I don't have a USB OTG cable or adapter at the moment. Hoping to borrow one or buy one in the next few days. Will let you know the outcome.
Regards.
Brian

I received my £0.99 OTG USB adaptor in the post from an eBay seller today and it works. With ES File Explorer or Solid Explorer it shows the contents of my memory stick and I can read text files, etc.
So the answer to your question is yes the Storm does support OTG.
Brian

Battery and Gaming Performance
Brianrh said:
I received my £0.99 OTG USB adaptor in the post from an eBay seller today and it works. With ES File Explorer or Solid Explorer it shows the contents of my memory stick and I can read text files, etc.
So the answer to your question is yes the Storm does support OTG.
Brian
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Hi Brian,
That's fantastic! I really can't thank you enough for taking the effort of experimenting the OTG feature on the Storm :good:.
If you don't mind I'd also like to know your thoughts on the device and if you'd recommend it. From what I've understood is that the battery is probably the biggest disadvantage in the phone, but how ''bad'' is it actually? How often do you have to charge your phone under a certain usage?
And also I don't know if you use it for gaming, but if you have done so, does it perform decently?
Thanks mate!

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Hi Brian,
That's fantastic! I really can't thank you enough for taking the effort of experimenting the OTG feature on the Storm :good:.
If you don't mind I'd also like to know your thoughts on the device and if you'd recommend it. From what I've understood is that the battery is probably the biggest disadvantage in the phone, but how ''bad'' is it actually? How often do you have to charge your phone under a certain usage?
And also I don't know if you use it for gaming, but if you have done so, does it perform decently?
Thanks mate!
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I've had my Storm since Christmas and I am generally pleased with it these days. The last OTA update made a big difference to the reliable operation of mine after a bit of a wobbly start but I have read that others have had a few hardware problems along the way. I don't know if it is still the case but I haven't seen any new complaints recently. If you are going to buy SIM free I would play safe and get one from somewhere like Amazon who have good returns policy if you do happen to get a "lemon".
My previous phone was a gen 1 Moto G running Cyanogenmod and battery life with my Storm is equally good but then I am a very light user and I can get about 2 days out of a full charge. However if I run Google Maps for my daily commute the battery goes down quite quickly which I suppose is due to that big display being on all the time but probably no worse than my Moto G was. The Storm is quite responsive but I've never used it for gaming so you wll have to ask others about this on this forum. The Cyanogen Mod forum is also worth reading through:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/forum/1212-wileyfox-storm-kipper/
I'm very pleased with mine for what I need it to do but like others are saying we do need a decent case for it.
Hope this helps.
Brian

Brianrh said:
I've had my Storm since Christmas and I am generally pleased with it these days. The last OTA update made a big difference to the reliable operation of mine after a bit of a wobbly start but I have read that others have had a few hardware problems along the way. I don't know if it is still the case but I haven't seen any new complaints recently. If you are going to buy SIM free I would play safe and get one from somewhere like Amazon who have good returns policy if you do happen to get a "lemon".
My previous phone was a gen 1 Moto G running Cyanogenmod and battery life with my Storm is equally good but then I am a very light user and I can get about 2 days out of a full charge. However if I run Google Maps for my daily commute the battery goes down quite quickly which I suppose is due to that big display being on all the time but probably no worse than my Moto G was. The Storm is quite responsive but I've never used it for gaming so you wll have to ask others about this on this forum. The Cyanogen Mod forum is also worth reading through:
I'm very pleased with mine for what I need it to do but like others are saying we do need a decent case for it.
Hope this helps.
Brian
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That was pretty helpful thanks. I'm stuck in a dilemma now. It's either going to be the Storm or the OnePlus X (roughly the same price).
The OP X does rock the more powerful Snapdragon 801, however the bigger screen, front facing camera flash and 32 GB of internal storage on the Storm seem to be dragging me towards it immensely.
Also the OP X has loads of support and threads going for it while the Storm seems to be nearly dead on the internet.
Which would you honestly get if you were phoneless and had to choose one of the two?

It is early days for the Storm but Wileyfox the company seem to be more intent on pushing the brand and new sales rather than nurtering and building up a strong reputation. In theory Wileyfox being UK based should have the better customer service but many people haven't found this.
The OP X has as you say a strong following and seems a better phone than it's earlier models with a more straight forward means of purchasing it these days. I like Cyanogen having used it for many years on several mobiles but I don't know much about Oxygen OS on the OP X? OP phones have been on the market longer, hence have sold more phones and consequently there will be more information on the internet. I think they have had their share of hardware problems in the past but perhaps this is the risk you take with good value mobiles like these.
One of the things at the top of my list was what to do in the event of a hardware problem and I thought with a few retails here in the UK and Amazon stocking the Storm it might be a safer bet and I have read on here about people returning their phones to Amazon at least once. When I bought my Storm at Christmas I was also looking at the LG G3 (i think it was that one) which was on special offer but went for the Storm mainly from the reviews I'd read. Although I am perfectly happy with the Storm reading other posts on here makes me wonder at the longevity of the Storm but this is probably the case with the OP X too. Only time will tell.
I wouldn't want to advise on which one to choose but perhaps make a list comparing the things important to you and then follow your heart. At least that way if you are unfortunate enough to have problems you will know that you made the best decision at the time.
Good luck.
Brian

Pokemon Go

Anyone excited for this game and found out our devices arent supported because of the intel chip?
it sucks...

I'll fix the broken Moto G 2014 to play it.
I tried to run in stock lollipop. Anyone tried it on custom roms?

Dan_Jacques said:
I'll fix the broken Moto G 2014 to play it.
I tried to run in stock lollipop. Anyone tried it on custom roms?
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lucky for you.
had no spare phone, play some first gen pokemon will help i guess

Iqballoon said:
lucky for you.
had no spare phone, play some first gen pokemon will help i guess
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i hope they add support for our phones, i wanna be the very best man, otherwise ill have to sell this phone, it's been disappointing me alot.

Starr a petition for the support?

I don't care about MM update... I just want to play Pokémon Go!

I've had a few issues now with the zenfone. I regret buying this after my oneplus died.

cm13 cant play

No f*** way, really I hate Asus now this is the last time I'm buying this crap, paid 400$ with an SD and couple of covers, I should've bought one plus two instead...

Remember guys, if software isn't working, it's the software manufacturer's job to get it fixed. In this case, I'm guessing the developers of the Pokemon game compiled it specifically for non-Intel SoC's... so you would want to send your petition to the Pokemon game developer to also compile Intel libraries.

I was in 2nd phase of the beta test and even then they never took the time to compile for x86 phones. I can't completely blame them either as it seems it's very out of the way to compile for x86 or Intel based phones as well. Another game called Fantasy War Tactics kinda had the same problem recently where they did a few updates that also broke compatibility for x86 so maybe it's not entirely their fault either. In the end we are just gonna have to wait patiently.
Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD using Tapatalk

I think they are being lazy since a properly made app would never have issues with x86 compilation

If I had to guess it flagged the anti cheat stuff. Who knows. I'm frustrated with this phone.

Yes let's start the petition now!

Here is a link to a petition that has currently 1,481 supporters.https://www.change.org/p/niantic-pokemon-go-intel-processor?recruiter=369210296&utm_source=petitions_show_components_action_panel_wrapper&utm_medium=copylink

Nowadays a few tablets also use Intel SoC, so I guess more and more people will start complaining and the developers will eventually have to care about compatibility and compiling for x86 platforms. If they want the game to spread, they will have to support as many systems as possible.
I'm not going to regret buying this phone just for one game. This is a smartphone, not a PS4.

The phone runs pretty good regardless of not playing a couple of games.
Sent from my ASUS_Z00TD using XDA-Developers mobile app

but couldn't anyone make believe app somehow that we have another different processor from intel? Sorry for the bad english
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because even if the petition is accepted, we still have to wait for July 15 or more, and I want to play Pokémon go as soon as possible ahahaha

Why is everyone blaming the phone manufacturer?
This isn't their issue if one or two games/apps don't work as its the app developers responsibility.
Moreover pokemon go isn't supported for windows phones as well, so should we start a petition to ban microsoft?
Very sad to see these kind of posts even after knowing asus is trying its best to provide for timely updates.
Also even if pokemon go comes to support z2 we won't be able to play it for more than 1-1/2 hours in one charge due to our battery life issues.

The regret comes from Intel. Seems they pushed and then mostly abandoned this market. Sigh.

Razer Phone 2 Audio Source Now Available + Developer Feedback Request

Hello developers of XDA!
I'm Rox, a Razer Vanguard and i'm here to let you know that the Audio Source is now available for the Razer Phone 2! You can now find the complete source code on the Razer Developers website here
I'm glad you all now have access to the full open source material and we can finally see some movement on the custom development we all know from Android
I would also like to take this opportunity to ask the developers of XDA for some feedback. Is there anything stopping people in particular supporting the device in the community with custom ROM's and Kernels? And is there anything that Razer could do to help?
This is by no means any assurance but I will gather all your feedback and pass it on.
The community is the most important thing to a product and I will continue to raise the communities voice as much as possible.
Thank you so much for the time!
Rox - Razer Vanguard.

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Hello developers of XDA!
I'm Rox, a Razer Vanguard and i'm here to let you know that the Audio Source is now available for the Razer Phone 2! You can now find the complete source code on the Razer Developers website here
I'm glad you all now have access to the full open source material and we can finally see some movement on the custom development we all know from Android
I would also like to take this opportunity to ask the developers of XDA for some feedback. Is there anything stopping people in particular supporting the device in the community with custom ROM's and Kernels? And is there anything that Razer could do to help?
This is by no means any assurance but I will gather all your feedback and pass it on.
The community is the most important thing to a product and I will continue to raise the communities voice as much as possible.
Thank you so much for the time!
Rox - Razer Vanguard.
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Thanks for the info, I'm waiting for my phone to arrive. I hope to start playing with the ROM very soon.

What's a Razer Vanguard?

It's like their tech support reps, except they're a little more involved. Already dealt with one on their site, and he was very helpful and responsive. Most replies were within just a couple hours. Seems like these guys actually use the hardware they support, and don't treat the users like idiots. Nice to see this, especially since they just laid off most of their phone division. Hopefully this is a sign of better things to come. This phone is a beast.

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It's like their tech support reps, except they're a little more involved. Already dealt with one on their site, and he was very helpful and responsive. Most replies were within just a couple hours. Seems like these guys actually use the hardware they support, and don't treat the users like idiots. Nice to see this, especially since they just laid off most of their phone division. Hopefully this is a sign of better things to come. This phone is a beast.
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That is essentially it! Thank you for the kind words, I'll be sure to pass it on to the team. We definitely do use the hardware we help with and for me personally the Razer Phone is my specialty but we all have experience with most Razer products.

I think there are two main things I would like to see:
1. Earlier factory images and the release of ota updates. It would be nice for those who have yet to get pie, for example.
2. Though I realize it's unlikely, the release of the device tree would really be a big boost to rom and kennel development

I second earlier factory image and source releases.
On another note. The sources we have currently had a lot of header/build issues. As other Devs have pointed out(elsewhere) this was probably due to the sources being built out of the device tree but they still seemed weird as I've never seen that before and can't make out how a device tree would have changed that. Would it be too much to ask that some time be taken to scrub the sources better and maybe even have some basic build scripts or instructions? I realize this is contrary to my first point but it's the next best thing to a device tree.

It would be nice to get full android 9 images the same as android 8.1
I still do not understand - why there is no support for aptx, aptx hd, ldac?!!!
And you can't even install it like on most other phones, maby razer developers know how fix it?
Also, due to a strange signature system, most gsi roms do not work.

How about Razer Phone 1?
Now I'm not a gamer, just got a used RP1 from a moderator on the Swedroid forum quite by accident, as it were.
I really quite like it, the Sharp IGZO screen especially, same as on my Xiaomi Mi Mix1, which was the main reason I got it.
I have had zero problems with it so far.

ROM for Andorid 9
GoomerHD said:
It would be nice to get full android 9 images the same as android 8.1
I still do not understand - why there is no support for aptx, aptx hd, ldac?!!!
And you can't even install it like on most other phones, maby razer developers know how fix it?
Also, due to a strange signature system, most gsi roms do not work.
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+1 having the full image will save us a lot of time and will expedite the creation of mod ROM.

CurtisMJ said:
I second earlier factory image and source releases.
On another note. The sources we have currently had a lot of header/build issues. As other Devs have pointed out(elsewhere) this was probably due to the sources being built out of the device tree but they still seemed weird as I've never seen that before and can't make out how a device tree would have changed that. Would it be too much to ask that some time be taken to scrub the sources better and maybe even have some basic build scripts or instructions? I realize this is contrary to my first point but it's the next best thing to a device tree.
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I was informed this is how all new MSM kernels are - they don't build properly out of the AOSP tree (it looks like Android's build system supplies some additional flags to the kernel make system to make it use some prebuilts and AOSP headers over the kernel-provided ones). I don't think this is unique to Razer, since it's a Qualcomm thing.
I've got build instructions for the kernel in my thread too if you need them.
Of course, I could be relaying incorrect information but this does seem like it's typical of Google/Qualcomm to be changing Open Source projects to fit their internal needs...

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Rox - Razer Vanguard.
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Can you guys get in contact with CurtisMJ on this forum and see about implementing his amazing Chroma logo alternative app, integrating features of it with the current Chroma logo app, or otherwise allowing us non-root users to systemize it?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/razer-phone-2/themes/beta-logo-oss-implementation-lighting-t3893981
It has a lot of features I want from the Chroma app, but I'm weary of rooting, especially now that Android 9 Pie has come out and no factory images for 9 Pie are on the Razer dev site. If you even wanted to put it in the next update and give users the option of which Chroma app they wanted to use, I'm sure CurtisMJ would think that was pretty neat, though you'd have to ask him. I mean, I'd personally pay to use it if it meant I didn't have to root. Maybe integrate it with the stock Chroma app, and charge $5 to upgrade to CurtisMJ's features, and then split the cash with him. Idk.

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Maybe integrate it with the stock Chroma app,.
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I wonder lol.
Interestingly I did see some code in the Chroma app which can grant use of the service to unprivileged apps. I think it was used to whitelist some other Razer component. Just opening up that functionality to users so they can "grant" Chroma access to apps of their choosing might be enough. Otherwise, if I could get a signed stub in the next OTA that'd be cool (and ridiculously unlikely, just to be clear)

Great comments everyone keep them coming!

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It would be nice to get full android 9 images the same as android 8.1
I still do not understand - why there is no support for aptx, aptx hd, ldac?!!!
And you can't even install it like on most other phones, maby razer developers know how fix it?
Also, due to a strange signature system, most gsi roms do not work.
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Yeah, coming from my Samsung S8+, LDAC is the thing I'm missing the most.

I would just like to say thanks to Razer for listening to their customers and trying to be helpful, so: Thank you! :good: :victory:
I'm not a developer, but whatever these other guys need to get TWRP working, I'm all for

Pete450 said:
I would just like to say thanks to Razer for listening to their customers and trying to be helpful, so: Thank you! :good: :victory:
I'm not a developer, but whatever these other guys need to get TWRP working, I'm all for
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That's my goal atm to get the developers points of view and requests I'm proud of the community helping each other out so this is my next focus.
So far my feedback list has faster Factory images, and source code, device tree, more Audio Codec (APT-X AND LDAC) and a couple of other things I can't get into.
If anyone else thinks of anything lmk and I'll add it to my list to send on. I hope the right person sees it but again there is zero assurances that any of it will happen but this is where the voices matter.
Thanks again everyone!

Might be a little off topic, but since this is a gaming phone, why can't I pair my old ps3 controller? I even tried an old usb Xbox 360 controller, which a usb host test app successfully found the device. I would have hoped this would have been built in, being a gaming phone and all. I'm on pie and rooted, even when trying multiple previous methods of trying to get something the work, all the phone wants to do is charge the connected device.

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Might be a little off topic, but since this is a gaming phone, why can't I pair my old ps3 controller? I even tried an old usb Xbox 360 controller, which a usb host test app successfully found the device. I would have hoped this would have been built in, being a gaming phone and all. I'm on pie and rooted, even when trying multiple previous methods of trying to get something the work, all the phone wants to do is charge the connected device.
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Unfortunately the PS3 controller doesn't connect and act like a good Bluetooth or USB device. There is an app called sixaxis controller on the play store that allows you to connect a PS3 controller via Bluetooth, but it needs root and I don't believe it works anymore. There's also an app for wired PS3. It's not a Razer issue, it's a controller issue.

CalebQ42 said:
Unfortunately the PS3 controller doesn't connect and act like a good Bluetooth or USB device. There is an app called sixaxis controller on the play store that allows you to connect a PS3 controller via Bluetooth, but it needs root and I don't believe it works anymore. There's also an app for wired PS3. It's not a Razer issue, it's a controller issue.
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Right, I tested it all. That app gets to the part where it tries to pull the Mac of the phone's Bluetooth adapter and simply can't. I'm leaning more towards the an Oreo/Pie issue. Seems to be driver related.

Is the yoga book worth buying in 2020

Hello there
I have been searching around to buy a tablet mostly for home use,my wife is going to be using it most of the times for some googling,emails ,pdf etc. I found a really good deal in a refurbished android version yoga book but I'm not that sure if it's worth nowadays since as I have read it only updated to android 7. Is she going to have issues with some apps like Facebook,insta, netflix?
Thank you in advance

I have this unit for 3 years now and it’s still working.
From the beginning it had problems, for example it shuts down and reboot from time to time, when you want to cast something it freezes and some apps don’t work anymore. For googling and emails I don’t have any problem.
Would I recommend a Lenovo unit? I won’t, because they never given updates or solved the software problems.
I have a yoga book and my co-worker’s have an Android pro tablet from Lenovo and they also never received a update. The hardware is good but you never get an update even not a security update. I hope it help with your decision.
Greetings

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Is she going to have issues with some apps like Facebook,insta, netflix?
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Those, probably not, but I can't get modern casual games like merge dragons to run on the stupid thing. So if she plays that kind of game, it might not be the way to go.

As i am enthusiast on modding stuff, i like my hardware open to custom stuff. While the lenovo is not closed (you can unlock the bootloader) we had a dead scene. So i would not recommend this piece of hardware. In XDA your better strategy is to search on for devices that the community is alive AKA: popular devices and brands, like Samsung or Sony. Cause even if the moto maxx was spec wise MUCH better than the Xperia Z3 on paper, we had a different story here, the xperia comunity was skyrocketing and doing great where the moto maxx was a zombie device at its best.
TL : DR If you don't need to debloat it or do anything special to it its kinda of a solid device .