Hi all,
nephew has fallen my Yoga Book from the table. Tablet mode works properly, however the halo keyboard (once it is 180<) does not work ok. Only about half of the keys works (=letter shows after press), the other half (all on the right of 7,y,h,n including stylus button) does not work (however appears).
As I tried to use the same as the pad (180+ set with pen) it works ok.
Any advices? Ideas?
Can you even estimate what happened or what could be the cost of repair?
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Hi,
I've had my Hermes for about a month now. On about 4 occassions I've pulled the keyboard to use it and input will not be 'received' properly. It seems the Hermes gets stuck in a 'mode'.
Some of the keys work... like at the moment I clicked forward on an email, slid the keyboard out to start typing but the letters did not work. Pressing 'Return' activates the start menu, however.
I started pressing random things to get it work: I pressed the green phone button to get to the dialer, tapped the X for the dialer to get back to the email and now the keyboard is working again. Weird!
Has anyone else experienced anything similar?
nahguam said:
Hi,
I've had my Hermes for about a month now. On about 4 occassions I've pulled the keyboard to use it and input will not be 'received' properly. It seems the Hermes gets stuck in a 'mode'.
Some of the keys work... like at the moment I clicked forward on an email, slid the keyboard out to start typing but the letters did not work. Pressing 'Return' activates the start menu, however.
I started pressing random things to get it work: I pressed the green phone button to get to the dialer, tapped the X for the dialer to get back to the email and now the keyboard is working again. Weird!
Has anyone else experienced anything similar?
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If you can rule out software issues then there is a push on multi connector inside that may not be pressed in firmly!
Mike
I've had this problem sometimes. If I 'beat the phone' to it, or catch it mid-thought, as it were... Just have to be a bit slower with it. Seems that I slide the keyboard out before it has time to allocate the appropriate amount of CPU time to flipping the screen and initialising the hardware input, so it either takes a few presses for it to register, or it just gets stuck in keyboard-in mode, and I have to soft reset to make it work.
Happened on my old Hermes, not happened yet (touch wood) on my new replacement.
I'm having a strange problem with the hard and soft buttons on my phone.
I went to the park to take the kids to the pool yesterday. No, I didn't get within 100 feet of the pool with my phone. It was not placed anywhere wet and no one, as far as I can tell, got close enough to drip on it. It acts like it got water inside, but unless it somehow condensed from the air or from sweaty hands, I don't know how that could have occurred.
Anyways, I had set my phone up and when I picked it back up, it was like I kept pressing the messaging and IE buttons. Eventually letter keys on the keyboard like Q and E kept appearing as well. Every now and then it would work fine for a few minutes and then start up again. After leaving the phone out in the direct sun for awhile, it stopped doing that even as much but some of the keyboard keys and most of the soft keys seem not to want to work at all, neither do the two phone keys or the directional pad. Pressing the middle button on the directional pad causes the alignment screen to come up (???).
Making matters more confusing is the fact that on a couple of occasions when I did a soft reset the buttons would seem to function normally for a time. Most recently it happened last night when I went out to lunch. I had reset my phone and all of the buttons seemed to work fine again for several minutes. I got back from lunch and proceeded to browse the forums here. When I went back to my phone a bit later and had to wake it from standby, the issues returned. I have since flashed to a new ROM but have experienced no change in the symptoms and have not gotten the buttons to work with a reset since, though I've admittedly only tried a couple of times. When I tried doing a hard reset, it instead went to the bootloader screen.
So, yeah, I'm confused. It acts like it got moisture in it but I don't know how that could have happened unless it was just from my hand. In any case, trying to dry it doesn't seem to have helped. Does anybody have any ideas on this or am I buried? It's several months still before I can upgrade to a new phone at a discount with my provider and I really don't have the money to do so in any case. I can use the touch screen but, let's face it, the WM interface is a lot easier to navigate sometimes with the buttons. I'm holding out big hope for the WNAIP project to succeed here though. Of course, that's not to mention I can't play games like Tetris without a working directional pad.
Okay, it's pretty much gotten to the point where none of the physical buttons works, hard or soft, and even some of the kb buttons don't work.
Anyone?
Hello, I have had this TYTN I for a long time without any major problems. It was originally with WM5 but then I upgraded to WM6. Lately I had a strange problem whereby the front buttons stop responding intermittently.
The below mentioned buttons stop working:
1. The Internet Explorer button.(Above on the right)
2. The Message button.(Above on the left)
3. The Call buttons. (The call picking and disconnecting button, below left and right) And the 4 keys along it.
During this time I have to resort to the pointer or the side wheel to use the phone, which is very frustrating.
If I press the reset button at the bottom, the keys work again for a few times, then stop to respond again.
I have tried to flash again with both WM5 and WM6 but did not help. I have opened the phone and reseated all connectors but did not help either. Do you think I should try replacing the ribbon cable?
I have searched the forum and found several threads with the same problem, but never a solution.
Your help is much appreciated. Thanks.
I have been struggling the last few months with the same exact problem. Sometimes the buttons work other times they don't, and in the last couple of weeks the frequency of button failure has increased (every couple of minutes).
I found a few users yesterday over on the HTC forum who were having the same problem and 1 user who actually reported a fix that worked for him.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Key Lock and select "Do Not Lock Buttons". Exit Key Lock and soft reset your device. You may know return to the Key Lock options and re-select your choice (I used "Lock all buttons except Power button").
Worked for the HTC user and is working for me as I have had no button failure now in the last 24-hours with repeated use of the device.
I hope this works for you because if you are like me I getting very close to trashing the unit.
Hi,
the problem could be the Xilinx chip (a BGA chip) on the pcb underneath the buttons.
As the buttons are pressed the board is flexed and some of the solder pads under the xilinx chip must have become detached from the xilinx chip itself.
I had the white screen problem. An while i got the white screen the front buttons where not working too.
In the whte screen threat i found that it could be the Xilinx chip, and figured out when pressing on this chip the white screen was gone and the buttons where working.
So i resoldered (refloated) the chip with a heatgun and some liquid flux last Sunday and since then i had no problems anymore.
I would suggest disassembling the phone down to the pcb and try starting it on with the ribboncables connected while keep some pressure on the Xilinx chip. And then trying the buttons if they work.
See
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2382665&postcount=134
in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321163&page=14
Greets
jtf
I have the same problem with the same phone. The instructions above for "key lock" didn't fix it for me. I was assuming that it was hardware; but I just tried installing the Android port for this phone and under Android the buttons work fine.
I know that Android has some good stuff going for it, but I don't think it's awesome enough to circumvent a bad circuit... How exactly do these buttons work? Is there a process that should be running to handle them? Any other pointers?
Hi,
Ever since the latest update (today, as i own the phone since today) the finger input is off. The left upper corner is 1:1. But the more you go to the right lower corner, the input that is registered, is off.
It is like there is some kind of acceleration going on. Because of this, typing, pressing icons and even swiping isn't possible in a normal manner. Fot instance, when i press the R on the keyboard, it is registering the V or C.
Again, with the S-pen everything is working properly.
I've tried changing the screen density and the resolution (after rooting), but without succes.
I've tried reflashing with ODIN (hard reset as well), but without succes.
Is there a way to re-allign the input, or something??
Any help is appriciated!!
Hi all,
so I have my Yoga Book - Windows version - for several days now. I am very happy with this device however there is one issue with the keyboard I just do not know how to solve - except for connecting external keyboard.
In general use its fine but it does not cooperate with games - you can not use key combinations (wd;wa,sa;sd) to move. As soon as you press "D" while holding "W" the keyboard stops sending continuous imput data. You can hold "W" and tap "D" to move right strait right (not forward/right) but it is a single imput... you can not hold "D" for continuous imput while holding "W" at the same time as in normal keyboards.
This seams very strange to me as you in fact CAN hold several key for continuous imput just not the character keys. For example: shift+W (2 keys) will give you continuous imput of capital "W" and crtl+alt+v (3 keys) will give you continuous imput of "@" sign. Clearly the technology supports multiple simultaneous "key" press, it just does not behave like regular keyboard.
I believe that this is an issue of halo keyboard's drivers but I might be wrong. Anyone have any glue how to solve this?
You can use the micro-usb port and bluetooth to connect an external keyboard
cyhmay said:
You can use the micro-usb port and bluetooth to connect an external keyboard
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Well........ obviously. I know that, but you certainly do not have external keyboard all the time. I mean... it kind of negates the point of having 2v1 tablet/notebook if you have to have external keyboard anyway.
Hey,
so after few more test I found out that the same issue applies to arrow keys as well - meaning no diagonal navigation in file explorer, table documents or navigation services (google maps). So I have contacted customer support - long story short I should do factory reset or send it to service centre.
I am still convinced that this is the issue of drivers so I was wondering... could anyone with Yoga Book test this issue?
Talsi said:
Hey,
so after few more test I found out that the same issue applies to arrow keys as well - meaning no diagonal navigation in file explorer, table documents or navigation services (google maps). So I have contacted customer support - long story short I should do factory reset or send it to service centre.
I am still convinced that this is the issue of drivers so I was wondering... could anyone with Yoga Book test this issue?
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This is indeed an issue, exactly as you have indicated. Factory reset / sending it to the service centre will almost certainly be a waste of your time.
crabshoot said:
This is indeed an issue, exactly as you have indicated. Factory reset / sending it to the service centre will almost certainly be a waste of your time.
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Thanks for the info.
Anyone else? The more the merrier
Talsi
That sounds a like reasonable problem to me, I am guessing that this is not a real keyboard and they probably tried to make it simulate on screen keyboards which most of them do not properly support multiple modifier keys thing. I do not have a way to try this on the android keyboard but the ctrl modifier seems to work.
I just wished that the pen and the keyboard worked at the same time. So I do not have to constantly switch.
Please, take a look at my post, I list a few files you can modify to change the behaviour of the keyboard/touchpad:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/themes/information-yoga-book-windows-t3520628
Comments/findings are welcome.