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Hi everyone,
This is almost certainly a waste of time and effort, but I started a Petition at Change.org with the aim of getting Sony to offer an "alternative" ROM for their Z lineup.
This is the link:
https://www.change.org/p/sony-mobil...ence-and-fast-updates-for-the-xperia-z-lineup
What this is about? I really like the hardware on the new Sony devices, but I'm spoiled by my Nexus/Google Play Edition devices when it comes to Software and Update policies. Since the Nexus 6 is out of the question and there are currently no interesting GPE devices on the market, I thought this is better than not trying at all.
Basically, my idea is, that Sony could offer their users a choice: Go with the regular, Skinned ROM and be happy with it, or download the "alternative" factory images, that convert the device into a Nexus-Like Stock-Android device. That way, there is no need to market and sell two different versions of a device, and users can choose what they prefer. This would also be a "benchmark" for Sony, to see how many people are actually interested in Stock-Android-ROMs.
HTC does this, albeit unofficially, by offering GPE versions of their flagship devices that are exactly identical in hardware. It is possible to simply flash a Sense-Laden m7 or m8 and convert it into a fully working and compatible GPE version. Samsung makes it a bit more difficult by messing around with the GPE hardware in some way that makes a custom Kernel neccessary and prevents a full conversion. It took the devs quite some effort to fix the resulting Random Reboots on the S4...
So, if you like the idea, and want to attempt to generate some attention, I'd be grateful if you'd sign the petition and invite your friends to do the same. If not, then thanks for reading this and have a nice afterlife...
Love your enthusiasm but... No manufacturer offers alternative roms to flash - GPe is only ever an alternative device ~ and I presume you have never "converted" an M8 over to GPe (not for feint of heart, partition changes required prior to flashing any zip, much the same as Xperia Z Ultra GPe).
I think you'll find we are already spoilt more by Sony than any other manufacturer when it comes to offering AOSP and the various git offerings made available to us..
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Hi there,
I am aware that nobody does this yet... But maybe it is an idea for the future. About the HTC GPE... You are right, but I'm currently using a "coverted" Galaxy S4, which is also not trivial, but entirely manageable... I'm already wondering what new quirks Samsung will invent to make flashing GPE Lollipop harder on the TW Galaxy S4 i9505... ?
Isn't CM working with Sony Devices or something ?
However, i think it's fine the way it is The Rom currently is appealing to the eye and pacey
I think we should first focus on trying to get root on lb and go from there.
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russell664 said:
I think we should first focus on trying to get root on lb and go from there.
Sent from my Xperia Z3
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Agreed
Hussain_Salam said:
Isn't CM working with Sony Devices or something ?
However, i think it's fine the way it is The Rom currently is appealing to the eye and pacey
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no CM isnt working with them..Sony hired a maintainer/coder that was part of CM for Sony devices. he worked on other projects as well. Thank Jerplea. he is the community member that Sony hired nd he is helping offer source to help build aosp for Sony devices. Sony does a good job offering help to the dev community by giving tips,guides and source on ther developer website
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Hello to all of you guys, i have a question - can the sailfish OS be installed on Xperia z1 compact ?
If doesnt yet a port for this cell , i will request for port .
Thank to all devs in advanced.
There was attempt but there is problem with GPU and AFAIK currently nobody doing it
https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/gpu
the new unified kernels Sony pushed out recently for AOSP developers should make these sort of problems less of an issue, and make ports to Z1/Z1C / Z2 / Z3 / Z3C more possible. Z3 and particularly Z3C (as the only premium compact in Western markets) are doing very well, so there may be some interest here.
Sailfish OS SII Plus (nfc)
I was really interesting in this OS, i saw a lot of videos, read a lot of things...would be great if i coul try it on my s2 plus. If someone is interest in the developement is a great thing...otherwise i'll buy a jolla phone...so far T.T
As title says.
i left my old Samsung S3 for a Sony Z3 mainly for the "promise" of more AOSP-like roms, because Sony thinks is "developer / community friendly".
Though my Z3 is rock stable with the latest official software, i find the lack of AOSP-CM love very disturbing: i really thought that "developer friendly" equals "more and better AOSP-CM for all".
that's not true.
Maybe because there are no people working on that device? (i konw that's close to a hobby, the whole AOSP-CM thing)
Maybe sony simply has better stock software (thus, no needs of further development)?
The only AOSP roms available at the moment are very buggy and looks like not actively developed; nonetheless that rom's thread is almost dead, with no evidence of active development.
The need of unlock the bootloader (and losing DRM, i have a backup), waste at least 45-60 minutes to setup a non-sony, bug filled rom is a nonsense.
I tried CyanogenMod (both standard and sabermod) and i only got to rollback to stock software, because of various and very annoying bugs (eg, auto-brightness, camera..).
the very last attempt ended with a screen damage (overheat) that forced me to a warranty-RMAconclusion (at least for me):
too complex and time-wasting to obtain root
lack of both quality/quantity of CM/AOSP roms (despite sony is "developer friendly")
lack of interest on this (Z3 D6603) device?
i'm not a developer... so i only speak for the (final) user side.
please tell me if i'm wrong.
Dont believe always all promises and its also the lag of people to have patients, far to find by some.
Agreed
I believe that they will be friendly after you unlock your phone's bootloader and void the precious warranty along with some of proprietary functions. It's like you have to sell your soul and a kidney to have that extra power (but you can get it back if you backed up your DRM keys thingy)
I am also understand that they have to protect their stuffs but let you have access to root and fastboot at the same time.
When I first unlocked the BL. The thing I missed a little bit is Bionz thingy but then I just gave up and bought a their mirrorless camera. Problem fixed but costs 4x price but enjoy manual mode and (most likely) actual G lenses!
smala said:
[*]lack of interest on this (Z3 D6603) device?
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It's rare to see a Sony's ads in my country like 3% compared to 70% of Samsung's. Some of my friends looked at my phone and they have no idea that Sony phones existed. I'm like OMG guys...
The phone is good. I have a black one. 3GB of RAM, insane battery life, 8MP 21MP camera with their (so called) G Lens, super stylish Omni-Balance design and frontal dual speakers.
I'm actually really love this phone.
Oh and I would like to see when the single SIM models shares the same rom with dual SIM models. I first bought a really good dual SIM model without a clue and then instantly traded with single SIM one because that time I really want to try Existenz ROM (no cellular function). LOL at myself.
Ps. I also have that goddamn slightly yellow-ish stuff on my navbar (so I can't use tinted navbar because it was the most annoying thing ever.) with two brighter-than-the-rest (idk if that is called bright pixel or what) area. Not a big deal though.
Ps.2 This thing is like a toaster when flashing-backing up-restoring in recovery.
Sorry for a long reply. This is just my thought without being sarcastic except the first line. X D
I guess most of what the OP said was kind of true. However as I moved from my pretty heavily modified Nexus 5 to the Z3, I've seen no interest in rooting the device or adding functionality because the Z3 is good enough IMO. The screen is just how I want it, unlike my N5's extremely warm/orange display and the battery is amazing compared to the N5. For me the work to get root isn't worth it anymore (plus I need mobile banking) ?
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There are a good 6 or 7 great roms for Xperia z3 without unlocking your bootloader. Like Pandemics, Wolfbreaks, niaboc79. Take a look at the threads. I'm stuck with a z3 where I cant unlock bootloader, which pisses me off, so I'm grateful to these devs that produce such great roms for our z3. These devs are also on the ball. They respond to your stupid questions and politely help you.
I do wish that all sony phones were bootloader unlockable, but I guess the carrier plays some part too.
And then there is their concept MM combined with DRM restore, root, xposed and Gravitybox
And now that a root has been found for mm, both Ub and lb, there will be lots more development for the Z3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3337357
smala said:
As title says.
i left my old Samsung S3 for a Sony Z3 mainly for the "promise" of more AOSP-like roms, because Sony thinks is "developer / community friendly".
Though my Z3 is rock stable with the latest official software, i find the lack of AOSP-CM love very disturbing: i really thought that "developer friendly" equals "more and better AOSP-CM for all".
that's not true.
Maybe because there are no people working on that device? (i konw that's close to a hobby, the whole AOSP-CM thing)
Maybe sony simply has better stock software (thus, no needs of further development)?
The only AOSP roms available at the moment are very buggy and looks like not actively developed; nonetheless that rom's thread is almost dead, with no evidence of active development.
The need of unlock the bootloader (and losing DRM, i have a backup), waste at least 45-60 minutes to setup a non-sony, bug filled rom is a nonsense.
I tried CyanogenMod (both standard and sabermod) and i only got to rollback to stock software, because of various and very annoying bugs (eg, auto-brightness, camera..).
the very last attempt ended with a screen damage (overheat) that forced me to a warranty-RMAconclusion (at least for me):
too complex and time-wasting to obtain root
lack of both quality/quantity of CM/AOSP roms (despite sony is "developer friendly")
lack of interest on this (Z3 D6603) device?
i'm not a developer... so i only speak for the (final) user side.
please tell me if i'm wrong.
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go check out the other sections they suck the Sony forum is one of the best for sure.
smala said:
As title says.
i left my old Samsung S3 for a Sony Z3 mainly for the "promise" of more AOSP-like roms, because Sony thinks is "developer / community friendly".
Though my Z3 is rock stable with the latest official software, i find the lack of AOSP-CM love very disturbing: i really thought that "developer friendly" equals "more and better AOSP-CM for all".
that's not true.
Maybe because there are no people working on that device? (i konw that's close to a hobby, the whole AOSP-CM thing)
Maybe sony simply has better stock software (thus, no needs of further development)?
The only AOSP roms available at the moment are very buggy and looks like not actively developed; nonetheless that rom's thread is almost dead, with no evidence of active development.
The need of unlock the bootloader (and losing DRM, i have a backup), waste at least 45-60 minutes to setup a non-sony, bug filled rom is a nonsense.
I tried CyanogenMod (both standard and sabermod) and i only got to rollback to stock software, because of various and very annoying bugs (eg, auto-brightness, camera..).
the very last attempt ended with a screen damage (overheat) that forced me to a warranty-RMAconclusion (at least for me):
too complex and time-wasting to obtain root
lack of both quality/quantity of CM/AOSP roms (despite sony is "developer friendly")
lack of interest on this (Z3 D6603) device?
i'm not a developer... so i only speak for the (final) user side.
please tell me if i'm wrong.
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There simply aren't alot of developers left developing on the z3. It is an aging device and most dev's move onto newer phones rather quickly. There are lots of good rom options for the z3 to keep you occupied. But if you were looking for more active development, I think you should have bought a z5 or held out for a zx.
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I came across several Devices like Samsung S2/3/4/5, Note 2/3/4, Sony Xperia S/Z/1/2/3, LG G2/4x, Nexus 4/7 and some more I think but the variety of Development is really one of the smallest here in Z3.
Actually I'm stuck at the Z3(no money) and got used to it but, except the Battery, it isn't that Killer I expected from it.
Well no, I don't need a Tissue
Downloaded the Slim Stock Sony from here, actually it is Version 5 with some really nice new Features (Launcher/Icons..) + Xposed + Gravity Box and I am happy.
Back in the the Samsung S2 days, many people were complaining about Samsungs politic about their Exynos Chips and Developers had hard times with it but now, just have a look at S3/S3 LTE Forums, always up-to-date.
I don't understand why there is no official Cyanogenmod 13 for the Z3, even the CM 12.1 is just nightly but unfortunately I lost touch to all this back in the S4 Active days so I have to wait for what will come.
On the other side, the Z3 is a stabile daily Device with no bigger Problems so it could be worse. And Android 6 is coming, sooner or later
BTW, my wife's Z5 (Telekom Germany) didn't get MM, yet.
Greetings,
Thomas
ohwarumbloss said:
I came across several Devices like Samsung S2/3/4/5, Note 2/3/4, Sony Xperia S/Z/1/2/3, LG G2/4x, Nexus 4/7 and some more I think but the variety of Development is really one of the smallest here in Z3.
Actually I'm stuck at the Z3(no money) and got used to it but, except the Battery, it isn't that Killer I expected from it.
Well no, I don't need a Tissue
Downloaded the Slim Stock Sony from here, actually it is Version 5 with some really nice new Features (Launcher/Icons..) + Xposed + Gravity Box and I am happy.
Back in the the Samsung S2 days, many people were complaining about Samsungs politic about their Exynos Chips and Developers had hard times with it but now, just have a look at S3/S3 LTE Forums, always up-to-date.
I don't understand why there is no official Cyanogenmod 13 for the Z3, even the CM 12.1 is just nightly but unfortunately I lost touch to all this back in the S4 Active days so I have to wait for what will come.
On the other side, the Z3 is a stabile daily Device with no bigger Problems so it could be worse. And Android 6 is coming, sooner or later
BTW, my wife's Z5 (Telekom Germany) didn't get MM, yet.
Greetings,
Thomas
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No official CM due to, mainly, the camera bug.
They can't release a snapshot version with such a big issue.
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I agree. This is why I personally will try out Samsung. Specifically the Galaxy S7 Edge. I always see Samsung devices getting a lot of attention from 3rd party developers. They always get fully working custom roms and such. I've been stuck to Sony for a really long time (ever since the Xperia X10 Mini Pro) and I'm tired to see all the devices I use to be quickly abandoned. The lack of development is seriously pissing me off (I'm not blaming anyone).
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I agree. This is why I personally will try out Samsung. Specifically the Galaxy S7 Edge. I always see Samsung devices getting a lot of attention from 3rd party developers. They always get fully working custom roms and such. I've been stuck to Sony for a really long time (ever since the Xperia X10 Mini Pro) and I'm tired to see all the devices I use to be quickly abandoned. The lack of development is seriously pissing me off (I'm not blaming anyone).
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The only thing why I really HATE Sony is that Bootloader Unlocking thing. I've got a Nexus 4 - unlocking the BL was super-easy and I'm using a custom rom till now.
Next phone was a Moto G - there was a bug which prevented me from unlocking (and rooting) it. But I posted on Motorola's forums and somebody from them helped me and gave me a testing bootloader - also unlocked and custom ROM till now.
But on Z3 I risk loosing DRM keys, good camera, video recording (!?) and YouTube playback - a REAL dealbreaker!
The "missing" development is not such a big thing for me, as the stock ROM is a really good base to work with - so far, I didn't miss that part at all.
But what I miss because of the locked bootloader is to have a recovery in recovery partition which is (more or less) guaranteed to work even when phone is totally messed up. Without unlocking, just to restore a twrp backup, I need to flash stock, root it, install XZDR and restore it - which takes at least 30minutes.
But for daily use, also with root, I'm satisfied with my Z3 with Stock + XZDR + SoundMod + Xposed.
As everyone on here probably knows, z5 premium will not be getting any further security updates. Its timing couldn't have been any worse either. When I bought this premium phone (which costs almost as much as a flagship iphone), I didn't expect to have my security updates cut in just 2 years. I was planning to hang onto this phone for a few years until something worth upgrading to came out.
So like many who still own this phone, I am wondering is there anyway to keep my phone secure and still use it? My phone is unlocked and rooted and I am running the latest firmware. I unfortunately didn't back up my drm keys so I had to use the hack method to keep my phones functionality (fingerprint sensor, camera...etc) I'm wondering what is the best close to stock firmware to use to get the latest security updates and also how much functionality is lost by using those? It's to my understanding the camera only works the best with the official camera app and 4k only works on the album app and movie app. Will I lose 4k capability by switching to a custom firmware?
Any insight on any of this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks to all who took the time to read this and a big thanks in advance to anyone who can provide any input.
Mostly updated custom kernel + custom ROMs (Sony Stock ROM + kernel based)
e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/development/m-rom-t3781969
and
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76269595&postcount=418
well, newer custom kernels will have WPA2 KRACK protection, protection/mitigation against Meltdown/Spectre (a class of timing-based) attacks and other fixes & improvements
updated binaries for e.g. wpa_supplicant might be needed but I haven't really looked into those details yet
Thanks. Is it possible to use a custom kernal like the one you provided in your second link with the latest official firmware (32.4.1.54) since I only care about updating my security?
Mike3009 said:
Thanks. Is it possible to use a custom kernal like the one you provided in your second link with the latest official firmware (32.4.1.54) since I only care about updating my security?
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sure, flash TWRP (if not already done so),
do a backup of each partition separately (/boot , /data , /system)
and flash the kernel
it'll update /boot and modules in /system
zacharias.maladroit said:
sure, flash TWRP (if not already done so),
do a backup of each partition separately (/boot , /data , /system)
and flash the kernel
it'll update /boot and modules in /system
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I appreciate the help and sorry for all the questions. Is backing up the partitions still necessary if I already have a backup of the firmware from xperifirm? Yes I already have TWRP because I used it to root my device. Also I'm assuming the kernal I want is on the first post of the second link you shared with me but there are two files to be downloaded and I'm not sure which to use. I'm on a z5 premium e6853.
Thanks again.
Mike3009 said:
I appreciate the help and sorry for all the questions. Is backing up the partitions still necessary if I already have a backup of the firmware from xperifirm? Yes I already have TWRP because I used it to root my device. Also I'm assuming the kernal I want is on the first post of the second link you shared with me but there are two files to be downloaded and I'm not sure which to use. I'm on a z5 premium e6853.
Thanks again.
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I just flashed over the first one with fastboot. Worked fine. Security is still showing September 2017 though. Is there anyway I can know if I'm more secure now?
Mike3009 said:
I just flashed over the first one with fastboot. Worked fine. Security is still showing September 2017 though. Is there anyway I can know if I'm more secure now?
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you take a look at the source in github
sorry, the ROM base is the same [and thus you're affected by the vulnerabilities, so best would be to re-enable SELinux which gives quite a good protection itself],
kernel-side however got you covered (well, it really depends how much the kernel is patched up).
You, of course, could try out RR, LineageOS which are somewhat more up-to-date (updates stopped being added November / December last year for Android 7.1.y),
but there you'd lose e.g. picture stabilization on video recording, MHL, MirrorLink, superior post-processing on pictures, etc.
The problem with these device (Snapdragon 810) is that Qualcomm dropped support for the msm8994 platform,
and since we're stuck with 3.10 kernel it's a community effort to get it patched up somewhat.
There'd be the possibility to upgrade & port the kernel to 4.4 but since the API, etc. would mismatch and newer drivers are missing it's basically not worth the effort
zacharias.maladroit said:
you take a look at the source in github
sorry, the ROM base is the same [and thus you're affected by the vulnerabilities, so best would be to re-enable SELinux which gives quite a good protection itself],
kernel-side however got you covered (well, it really depends how much the kernel is patched up).
You, of course, could try out RR, LineageOS which are somewhat more up-to-date (updates stopped being added November / December last year for Android 7.1.y),
but there you'd lose e.g. picture stabilization on video recording, MHL, MirrorLink, superior post-processing on pictures, etc.
The problem with these device (Snapdragon 810) is that Qualcomm dropped support for the msm8994 platform,
and since we're stuck with 3.10 kernel it's a community effort to get it patched up somewhat.
There'd be the possibility to upgrade & port the kernel to 4.4 but since the API, etc. would mismatch and newer drivers are missing it's basically not worth the effort
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That's too bad. I guess it's as I thought; there's no real perfect solution to staying secure at the time being. Well, thanks for the kernal anyways. I can't believe how much better my phone is now. It has me puzzled why Sony didn't release it like this in the first place.
Mike3009 said:
As everyone on here probably knows, z5 premium will not be getting any further security updates. Its timing couldn't have been any worse either. When I bought this premium phone (which costs almost as much as a flagship iphone), I didn't expect to have my security updates cut in just 2 years. I was planning to hang onto this phone for a few years until something worth upgrading to came out.
So like many who still own this phone, I am wondering is there anyway to keep my phone secure and still use it? My phone is unlocked and rooted and I am running the latest firmware. I unfortunately didn't back up my drm keys so I had to use the hack method to keep my phones functionality (fingerprint sensor, camera...etc) I'm wondering what is the best close to stock firmware to use to get the latest security updates and also how much functionality is lost by using those? It's to my understanding the camera only works the best with the official camera app and 4k only works on the album app and movie app. Will I lose 4k capability by switching to a custom firmware?
Any insight on any of this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks to all who took the time to read this and a big thanks in advance to anyone who can provide any input.
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yes! sony treated this device as their step son!
released late 2015, hit market 2016, and was already in LEGACY DEVICES in 2017, the whole series discontinued and after many months they released android 7.1.1 and thats it, no more builds or updates!
feel sorry for the device, it has all the premium features but treated badly!
- the 4k capability depends on which 3rd party rom you are using! , btw not many roms are available for z5p
YasuHamed said:
yes! sony treated this device as their step son!
released late 2015, hit market 2016, and was already in LEGACY DEVICES in 2017, the whole series discontinued and after many months they released android 7.1.1 and thats it, no more builds or updates!
feel sorry for the device, it has all the premium features but treated badly!
- the 4k capability depends on which 3rd party rom you are using! , btw not many roms are available for z5p
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Yeah I know, it's pathetic really. It's still a very current device as it was a very high spec phone when it was released. High spec phones like these don't get outdated that quickly. It's even more insulting that they cut support right as the meltdown vulnerability came out. They knew what they were doing -it's like a forced upgrade. Problem is: there is nothing released by Sony that really surpasses this phone in specs, or at least not enough for most people to be willing to spend all that cash on a new phone when their current one works perfectly. I don't see any compelling reason to run out and get an xz premium unless my phone breaks and dislike the xz2 premium. Oh well, I'll just have to use caution and hope for the best until a phone worth upgrading to comes out or my phone dies. Whatever happens first I suppose. Thanks for the sympathy.
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Yeah I know, it's pathetic really. It's still a very current device as it was a very high spec phone when it was released. High spec phones like these don't get outdated that quickly. It's even more insulting that they cut support right as the meltdown vulnerability came out. They knew what they were doing -it's like a forced upgrade. Problem is: there is nothing released by Sony that really surpasses this phone in specs, or at least not enough for most people to be willing to spend all that cash on a new phone when their current one works perfectly. I don't see any compelling reason to run out and get an xz premium unless my phone breaks and dislike the xz2 premium. Oh well, I'll just have to use caution and hope for the best until a phone worth upgrading to comes out or my phone dies. Whatever happens first I suppose. Thanks for the sympathy.
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sony never forgets to disappoint their customers by keep releasing unfinished flagships on the frequency of new bulletins!
whole z series abandoned after z5p due to huge billions of book losses to sony in xperia project. the device should have been with 4gb ram! but instead it was kept on 3gb!
z5p is awesome device, stable, stays in control and maintain itself amazinly!
now xzp came out finally with 4gb ram (should have been 6)
where xz2p is coming with 6gb ram and strange bumpy design and misplaced finger print sensor!
i don't know what sony is up to!
What's really disappointing is the lack of roms being developed. The prices are getting pretty nice right now for the z5 premium after support was dropped making it an attractive, affordable 4k smartphone for new comers. Also for those of us who already own it, having at least one decent rom solution would be really nice. It's pretty sad that I'd have to give up some of the functionality that I paid for in order to continue to keep my device secure. I'm going to stick to official firmware with anti-virus along with this updated kernel and hope for the best. I'd very much appreciate it if anyone finds a good custom firmware solution, to please let me know. Thanks in advance.
YasuHamed said:
yes! sony treated this device as their step son!
released late 2015, hit market 2016, and was already in LEGACY DEVICES in 2017, the whole series discontinued and after many months they released android 7.1.1 and thats it, no more builds or updates!
feel sorry for the device, it has all the premium features but treated badly!
- the 4k capability depends on which 3rd party rom you are using! , btw not many roms are available for z5p
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zacharias.maladroit said:
you take a look at the source in github
sorry, the ROM base is the same [and thus you're affected by the vulnerabilities, so best would be to re-enable SELinux which gives quite a good protection itself],
kernel-side however got you covered (well, it really depends how much the kernel is patched up).
You, of course, could try out RR, LineageOS which are somewhat more up-to-date (updates stopped being added November / December last year for Android 7.1.y),
but there you'd lose e.g. picture stabilization on video recording, MHL, MirrorLink, superior post-processing on pictures, etc.
The problem with these device (Snapdragon 810) is that Qualcomm dropped support for the msm8994 platform,
and since we're stuck with 3.10 kernel it's a community effort to get it patched up somewhat.
There'd be the possibility to upgrade & port the kernel to 4.4 but since the API, etc. would mismatch and newer drivers are missing it's basically not worth the effort
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How can we enable selinux?
Hi everyone,
I am looking for some guidance on purchasing a used Sony phone. Specifically I am looking for a device that can be easily rooted as well as being as close as possible to the latest device(s) to do this.
I am kind of lost on my search, so I am putting it to the community to help me. I know I read somewhere that Sony did things differently after 2015 with their devices making it harder to root. So if thats the limit, I am willing to accept it.
I am particularly looking for devices that already have exploits and can be rooted regardless of if the bootloader is locked or not by the mobile networks. But also a phone with strong enough specs, maybe an old flagship device that has this availability now that it's old.
In the past I have had a Sony Xperia Z3 (D6603) and that was easy to root regardless of the bootloader being locked. So essentially I would like something newer than that with the same rooting capabilities. As buying used cant ever guarantee that it can be rooted due to possible mobile network restrictions.
Thank you for your time reading this, hopefully I have posted in the right section (Do tell me off if I haven't). Also thank you for the help to those willing to give it, I'd appreciate the support.
- ultenhiemer
ultenhiemer said:
Hi everyone,
I am looking for some guidance on purchasing a used Sony phone. Specifically I am looking for a device that can be easily rooted as well as being as close as possible to the latest device(s) to do this.
I am kind of lost on my search, so I am putting it to the community to help me. I know I read somewhere that Sony did things differently after 2015 with their devices making it harder to root. So if thats the limit, I am willing to accept it.
I am particularly looking for devices that already have exploits and can be rooted regardless of if the bootloader is locked or not by the mobile networks. But also a phone with strong enough specs, maybe an old flagship device that has this availability now that it's old.
In the past I have had a Sony Xperia Z3 (D6603) and that was easy to root regardless of the bootloader being locked. So essentially I would like something newer than that with the same rooting capabilities. As buying used cant ever guarantee that it can be rooted due to possible mobile network restrictions.
Thank you for your time reading this, hopefully I have posted in the right section (Do tell me off if I haven't). Also thank you for the help to those willing to give it, I'd appreciate the support.
- ultenhiemer
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Sony Xperia z5p is 2017 flagship with nought 7.1 I have rooted since the day I bought.... It's easier to root just search Xperia z5p E6833 ......... If you need help with that just PM me
zahid5h said:
Sony Xperia z5p is 2017 flagship with nought 7.1 I have rooted since the day I bought.... It's easier to root just search Xperia z5p E6833 ......... If you need help with that just PM me
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Thank you for your information, it has actually been really helpful. However, it should be noted that Sony Xperia Z5 Premium is a 2015 flagship, not a 2017. It's easier to root because it doesn't have dm_verity protecting the bootloader (I believe), which was introduced into phones after 2015.
Though do you know you can actually restore lost functionality of the Sony Xperia Z5 Premium, after the TA partition has been deleted as a result of root and you lose all the DRM keys. Here's the thread on here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672