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Make your Desire Z blazing fast - Legendary

Hey all .. I have been a registered user on xda for over a year now and after a really loooong rom trails, finally i have reached the best performance for our Desire Z .. Found the best rom with best setting so far
Whats amazing is that the rom is Sense 3.5 and it runs smoothly than any other rom i have ever seen even the de-sensed ones
p.s Before stating the roms i would like to thank all the devs over xda and other websites for the huge effort they put in these roms
I tried
1. MIUI
2. CM7
3. RunnyDoroid
4. BeatMod BlissSense Hybrid
5. LeeDroid_HD
6. Virtuous Unity
7. Virtuous Affinity
8. Virtuous Sense
9. Coredroid
10. InsertCoin_Vision
11. RCMix
And all ICS ports .. By far This rom with these settings r the best performance i have ever experienced on my Desire Z and i would like to share it with you .. So let's Start
Rom Name:
Android Revolution HD™ 7.0.2 - Thanks to Napior and Mike1986
Kernel:
RCMix v12.2 Kernel
Tried Virtuous Kernel too (Didn't notice any speed differences but if you want to go with the Virtuous Kernel its running smoothly ). Thanks to Zofox
Tweaks:
(What i installed not all available ones)
A. RCTweaks v2.0 (For All Sense 3.5 ROMs)
B. TouchPad Wake On
Lets go for the Settings
Using V6 - SuperCharger
I used the MegaRAM 2 w/512mb option 9 in this script (Reported to have some issues with gaming - try option 6 for gaming please)
Gives me around 145MB of free Ram with 53 Apps installed.
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OC - I am using Set CPU just for monitoring (Dont change the frequencies just monitor the CPU frequency and temp)
I am using governer - smartass
*If you decided to go for the Virtuous Kernel (go for screen off profile scary and the default governor SavagedZen - Both with the same frequencies 245MHz to 1075 MHz)
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SD-Booster (for SD card speed) Setting 8192KB
VM Heap Tool - Setting 32m
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Used Swap following this tutorial (Thanks for masterismos for guiding me to the tutorial) - Used 512MB for EXT and 256MB for swap partition
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Thats all .. Hope this topic will help Desire Z owners to have a reliable, fast, stable and enjoyable phone
P.s if anyone got a better setting or an app i missed please tell me.
Note: If u got a USB mass storage problem when trying to hock ur phone to a laptop or a pc (the Only one i faced) - Use SD Dual Mount it will solve the problem like charm
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Benchmarks:
* With Antutu benchmark
* Using the above settings
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h.motawee said:
p.s Set CPU attached to the topic.
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thanks for you experiences, but please, don't include attachments that break the rules (e.g. paid version of setcpu).

sorgo said:
thanks for you experiences, but please, don't include attachments that break the rules (e.g. paid version of setcpu).
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Okay .. sorry for that i will remove the attachment now

If you go to setcpu authors thread, he lets you download the paid version for free.
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I removed the attatchment anyways .. its easy to get setcpu and sd dual mount widget
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I have tried your setup. And I have to say, something weird is happening. Whenever I try a game, after a few minutes, the screen goes black. The app is still running, because if I close the screen and open it again, there it is.
Any idea?

That never happened with me .. but try changing the V6 - Supercharger to option 6 that might solve the problem .. try it and get back to me
p.s it was reported by some users that some memory handling in v6 - SuperCharger does not handle games well (reported for option 7 up till now)
Whats your opinion about the overall performance of the phone?

Gaming Problem
I am trying option 6 now and it is running smoothly on Angry Birds Space with no problems .. Please get back to me as soon as u try it

h.motawee said:
I am trying option 6 now and it is running smoothly on Angry Birds Space with no problems .. Please get back to me as soon as u try it
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Me too
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Seems like that did the trick. Overall performance - WOW! 140mb free ram on a Sense 3.5 ROM. Never thought that was possible.

damn ... 3 days ago I tried every single ROM there is, and I really taught Virtuous sense is the one to go .. now I have to do it again (and I hate flashing cause of paranoia of brick, even though I do it by the book) .. guess I will try it if lots of you say only positive stuff.
what's the ROM's default CPU frequency ?

With this configuration, do you "lose" any messages? I often don't receive messaged with Sense 3.5 roms.

bogdan5844 said:
Seems like that did the trick. Overall performance - WOW! 140mb free ram on a Sense 3.5 ROM. Never thought that was possible.
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Happy it worked for u .. thanks for the feedback .. enjoy ur new desire z
Hit the thanks button if u liked the settings
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Igoritza said:
damn ... 3 days ago I tried every single ROM there is, and I really taught Virtuous sense is the one to go .. now I have to do it again (and I hate flashing cause of paranoia of brick, even though I do it by the book) .. guess I will try it if lots of you say only positive stuff.
what's the ROM's default CPU frequency ?
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As I said in the topic .. I have tried every single rom out there try this with with my settings and u won't regret it I guarantee u that
The Rom's default CPU frequency is 1075 GHz and don't overlock it I tried overlocking it and it performe better under the 1075 GHz .. try it and feed me back
If u found the blazing fast performance .. hit the thanks button
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geojoking said:
With this configuration, do you "lose" any messages? I often don't receive messaged with Sense 3.5 roms.
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In the Rom thread u will find some people reporting this issue but with my settings I never lost a message .. try it and feed me back
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h.motawee said:
As I said in the topic .. I have tried every single rom out there try this with with my settings and u won't regret it I guarantee u that
The Rom's default CPU frequency is 1075 GHz and don't overlock it I tried overlocking it and it performe better under the 1075 GHz .. try it and feed me back
If u found the blazing fast performance .. hit the thanks button
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damn, I will need to go back to stock, cause my warranty is still active and the speaker is failing. and I was looking forward to this.
I know I had BIG problems with root, so before I try this one, are there any other faster root methods ? I know that there is 2 of them (ADB and/or Visionary temp root) but one would think that there should be an app for that by now .. ?

hey i lose msgs when my phone is doing something like when wifi is on and im using some app then my msgs get lost even though my msg app is bulletproofed

yasirrfc said:
hey i lose msgs when my phone is doing something like when wifi is on and im using some app then my msgs get lost even though my msg app is bulletproofed
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The sms problem is reported in the rom thread by few users and it has been said that ghostly sms solves the problem completely .. have a look @ this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12765846
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If you found this post helpful .. hit the thanks button

yea i know ghostly solves is that is how we know we lose msgs but we dont want ghostly to be installed and want to receive all sms in default sms app

Yeah, same here. I fixed my speaker this morning, all eager to flash it now and rooted the stock again, but this really brings me down. are ROM makers into it, or is this the final version .. ?
with Virtuous abandoning their ROM (RC3 is the last version of quattro I guess and it's been a long time without even news on developing) it kinda sucks to know that everyone is slowly abandoning this phone

Maximizing the X Play - GeekBrnch3

Hi all,
I've recently installed the overclocked kernel from squid and am having some trouble reaching the same benchmarks that he has hit. I am running stock MM with row 128 I/O and adreno-tz on the GPU. CPU is lionfish with min frequencies 800 on both clusters. I think squid is running CM13.
I consistently score between 680-740 single and 2680-2800 multi. Does this look about right for stock MM with the overlooked kernel?
Any help maximizing this would be greatly appreciated. I know these scores have (probably) very little to do with real-world use but if I can get more out of my device then why not.
Thank you for any insight!

XxMikeMasterxX said:
Hi all,
I've recently installed the overclocked kernel from squid and am having some trouble reaching the same benchmarks that he has hit. I am running stock MM with row 128 I/O and adreno-tz on the GPU. CPU is lionfish with min frequencies 800 on both clusters. I think squid is running CM13.
I consistently score between 680-740 single and 2680-2800 multi. Does this look about right for stock MM with the overlooked kernel?
Any help maximizing this would be greatly appreciated. I know these scores have (probably) very little to do with real-world use but if I can get more out of my device then why not.
Thank you for any insight!
EDIT: Moderator - could you please edit the title of the post and correct the typo? GeekBench, not Brnch. Thanks!
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Try with simple on demand in gpu.
I will try this app today.
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K.khiladi said:
Try with simple on demand in gpu.
I will try this app today.
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Hey pal. Thanks for your feedback. Nice to see your response. I'll try it out as you suggest. I've been running a bunch of tests and it's looking like I hover around 740-50 single and 2700-50 multi. I've changed the configuration to default squid, so interactive governor and aggressive frequency settings. Needless to say the performance sure is snappy. Hahaha.
I'll likely revert to lionfish 800 on both clusters but this interactive snappiness is tempting...

Exactly 700 and 2700 with the oc kernel, stock brazil mm. Not even kidding. Although i sincerely doubt anything but a "native" extension can accurately measure a device performance, there is too much virtual machine and abstractions between hardware and software. Then again, this limitation applies to almost all apps, eg the normal usecase...

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K.khiladi said:
My score
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Looks to be about mine as well. What's your setup?
I got similar scores with lionfish, 800 both clusters. OCed kernel.

AtomicStryker said:
Exactly 700 and 2700 with the oc kernel, stock brazil mm. Not even kidding. Although i sincerely doubt anything but a "native" extension can accurately measure a device performance, there is too much virtual machine and abstractions between hardware and software. Then again, this limitation applies to almost all apps, eg the normal usecase...
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What's your setup, Atomic?

Running
Temasek's CM 4.1
OC Kernel with interactive and row 256kbps

XxMikeMasterxX said:
Looks to be about mine as well. What's your setup?
I got similar scores with lionfish, 800 both clusters. OCed kernel.
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Interactive. Base frequencies on both clusters 200. Overcharged squid kernel.
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TxaEkis said:
Running
Temasek's CM 4.1
OC Kernel with interactive and row 256kbps
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Cm seems to be set for higher benchmarks.
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Yeah does it ever. Stock gives me max 770 single 2815 multi. I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of ROM switching to get those extra points. Would I really see the performance difference?
Although I am tempted to try a new ROM. Would be fun...so long as I use Titanium Backup properly. Hahaha

XxMikeMasterxX said:
Yeah does it ever. Stock gives me max 770 single 2815 multi. I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of ROM switching to get those extra points. Would I really see the performance difference?
Although I am tempted to try a new ROM. Would be fun...so long as I use Titanium Backup properly. Hahaha
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If you are happy with stock don't bother as you won't even notice those extra points in the benchmark. I changed roms for the extra features and cm themes and i was getting random lag until i changed to interactive and row, now is very smooth and zero lag

TxaEkis said:
If you are happy with stock don't bother as you won't even notice those extra points in the benchmark. I changed roms for the extra features and cm themes and i was getting random lag until i changed to interactive and row, now is very smooth and zero lag
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Interactive is a great governor yeah. Thanks for your response regarding the ROM. I hear that CM13 is still a little shaky on the X Play but maybe I'll try the next release just to compare. I'll try a full discharge from 100% with default squid's OC kernel values. If I can still get >7 hours SOT with that setup and snappy performance I'll be thrilled.

XxMikeMasterxX said:
Yeah does it ever. Stock gives me max 770 single 2815 multi. I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of ROM switching to get those extra points. Would I really see the performance difference?
Although I am tempted to try a new ROM. Would be fun...so long as I use Titanium Backup properly. Hahaha
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This is miniscule difference. It doesn't create a great performance difference between stock and custom Roms. The benchmarks most of the time shows the raw power of the device but the optimisation of the software also is needed.
You can try custom Roms to get extra functionality but there are still bugs in them.
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K.khiladi said:
This is miniscule difference. It doesn't create a great performance difference between stock and custom Roms. The benchmarks most of the time shows the raw power of the device but the optimisation of the software also is needed.
You can try custom Roms to get extra functionality but there are still bugs in them.
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Nicely said. Performance and stability are key for me. Battery life too. Haha. I just love the X Play for that battery. 5 hours SOT and 21%. So lovely.

I had carefully tuned CM13 to get the best performance out of this device, so it and derivatives will give better performance than the defaults in stock. You can see some of my configuration here: https://github.com/moto8916/android_device_motorola_lux/blob/cm-13.0/rootdir/etc/init.target.rc Beyond that, some higher level parts of the ROM are better optimized on custom ROMs than stock, so that also improves performance.
For reference, here is my last score with the new (OC) kernel:

squid2 said:
I had carefully tuned CM13 to get the best performance out of this device, so it and derivatives will give better performance than the defaults in stock. You can see some of my configuration here: https://github.com/moto8916/android_device_motorola_lux/blob/cm-13.0/rootdir/etc/init.target.rc Beyond that, some higher level parts of the ROM are better optimized on custom ROMs than stock, so that also improves performance.
For reference, here is my last score with the new (OC) kernel:
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Hey squid,
Looks interesting. I think CM13 is definitely worth a look. I think I'll try the next release. Thanks for explaining the customizations/optimizations you've done.

Frankly, i couldn't care less about some number a synthetic benchmark spits out. The number 1 consideration is how long the battery lasts, then (a long way off) how quickly "heavy" apps such as firefox launch. Last i read CM13 isn't as good as stock at conserving power.

AtomicStryker said:
Frankly, i couldn't care less about some number a synthetic benchmark spits out. The number 1 consideration is how long the battery lasts, then (a long way off) how quickly "heavy" apps such as firefox launch. Last i read CM13 isn't as good as stock at conserving power.
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Battery life is quintessential for me, too. I was hoping to strike a balance between performance and battery (hence the Optimal Setup thread) and am still trying to discern what the best setup is to meet my requirements.
I'd like to try a custom ROM at some point, but that's my curiosity more than anything.
Battery life on the X Play can't be beat! That's why I got it.

Moto x play is no slough, I just ran a test between my nexus 6 and MXP,
Most apps actually open faster on the moto x.
Scrolling through Web pages and g+ the nexus 6 is smoother

flashallthetime said:
Moto x play is no slough, I just ran a test between my nexus 6 and MXP,
Most apps actually open faster on the moto x.
Scrolling through Web pages and g+ the nexus 6 is smoother
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Yep. I'd expect that. Still though - if properly customized this phone can really fly.

[Root Required] - Performance or Battery tuning Core_ctl

Intro
So this is a Guide that ive decided to make because ive found that you can get really good battery or really good performance by adjusting something called core_ctl, now Ive found that the z5's little cores NEVER turn off which in my opinion is silly so i decided to poke around and i found something called corectl and another called msm_performance.
im pretty certain this wont do any damage to your device as ive been playing with this since i got my z5 but there may be a performance hit and another note is that this SHOULD work on any S810 device or anything that has a big.little system.
Things Ive Learned
im going to note down things ive learned here that you shouldent do
- Do not Swap the big cores for the small cores using Is_big_cluster, it will cause repeat FCs and other issues.
- minimum of 1 big and 1 small core as it tends to become laggy without.
- Dont force off cores, if you want a core to turn off then use busy_up_thres or busy_down_thres
Requirements
you WILL need root and a filemanager like xplore unless you already know your way around a terminal emulator/adb
you Definately need a brain[emoji14]and just some time to read this obviously
this only works with the stock kernel or stock-ish kernels as of the moment.
Important Note
Before editing make sure everything is RW (Permission mode 744) and after editing anything be sure to change the permissions to read only (permission mode 644)
Core_ctl?
First of all these settings wont stick if you reboot so we will have to wait for Kernel Adiutor or an app alike to get updated.
anyway lets get started: you can find the parameter files in:
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/core_ctl/
(alternatively /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu4/core_ctl/ for the big cores)
there will be 2 folders which will have this, cpu0 and cpu4. cpu0 is sort of the master core for the small cores and cpu4 is the master core for the big cores
(cpu0 to cpu3 are small)
(cpu4 to cpu7 are big)
editable files:
- busy_down_thres
- busy_up_thres
- is_big_cluster
- max_cpus
- min_cpus
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busy_down_thres:
- Little cores
This file has a default value of "0" (looks like 0 0 0 0) (this is different for the big cores)
this means that if i change it to "25" when the cpu load dips below "25" it will then turn off cores, I recomend putting it at "40" (you dont have to change it to 40 40 40 40, you can just save it as 40)
( it seems the stock values for the big cores is fine with this)
busy_up_thres
If you havent guessed it, this does the oposite of the down_thres one, when your cpu load hits your set value then it will turn on cores, again this is defaulted to "0" for the little cores.
I have mine set to 50 for my little cores (i have left the default value for the big cores)
Is_big_cluster
this one is quite obvious but if you havent figured it out when set to "1" it then it will make the selected cluster (in this case little for example) take on heavier loads and act like the big cores
I dont recomend turning this to 1 as the little cores are little for a reason
max_cpus
this determines how many cpus within that cluster can be online at once
I recomend that you leave it at 4 as the little cores are quite weak but for the big cores you are fine to put it to 2 or even 1 if you want
min_cpus
This determines how many cpus MUST be online at once, I highly recomend that you keep 1 little core online as ive tried both with 0 minimum cores and ive had times where my device went total crazy and started lagging very bad
( you should be fine allowing 0 min_cpus for the big cores)
msm_performance
msm_performance is one of 2 (maybe more) hotplugs that the z5 uses with the stock kernel, there is msm_idle and msm_performance
there are some tweakable parameters in this so lets get started
you can find this in /sys/modules/msm_performance/parameters/
there is not much point to editing msm_performance as core_ctl is better to edit in my opinion
editable files:
- max_cpus
- num_clusters
(im pretty sure you can edit all of these but may be quite anoying to work with as they tend to reset them selves back to default)
max_cpus
so max_cpus is a global limit on how many cores can be on, it overrides what you'll find in the core_ctl but this has a habit of re-setting its self unless you change the permission mode to 644 after editing which is read only
when you open max_cpus you will see "-1:-1" this means any small or big core (e.g small:big), you can change this how ever you like, for example i recomend 4:2 or 2:2
num_clusters
this decides how many clusters you have, by default this is 2 because the snapdragon 810 has one small cluster and one big one, if you set this to 1 instead of 2 the big cores will act like any small core
My Config (updates 22nd of 05th 2016
- Little
busy_down_thres: 85
busy_up_thres: 75
is_big_cluster: 0
max_cpus: 2
min_cpus: 1
- Big
busy_down_thres: 0
busy_up_thres: 0
is_big_cluster: 1
max_cpus: 0
min_cpus: 0

Envious_Data said:
My Config
- Little
busy_down_thres: 40
busy_up_thres: 50
is_big_cluster: 0
max_cpus: 4
min_cpus: 1
- Big
busy_down_thres: 30
busy_up_thres: 60
is_big_cluster: 1
max_cpus: 2
min_cpus: 0
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Interesting, thanks !
Is your config good for performance or for battery life (or balanced) ?

nreuge said:
Interesting, thanks !
Is your config good for performance or for battery life (or balanced) ?
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As much battery without too much heavy lag
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Envious_Data said:
As much battery without too much heavy lag
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Well, do you think that it would be possible to find a config as performant as stock but better for battery life ?

Works so far, so I made a small Tasker script that replace the "stock" files at every reboot with the modified ones

Nice write-up, thanks!
Though, this seems to be removed on current andro-kernel v26 so u might want to add that this is only available when running a kernel which includes this feature (like stock kernel as of now)

nreuge said:
Well, do you think that it would be possible to find a config as performant as stock but better for battery life ?
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if you want better performance then make the big cores more aggressive when turning on and just have one small core, i tried this and it works out quite fine but gets you about the 4hrs SOT that stock gives
2 Max cores for big
1 max core for little
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Nice write-up, thanks!
Though, this seems to be removed on current andro-kernel v26 so u might want to add that this is only available when running a kernel which includes this feature (like stock kernel as of now)
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added a small note under requirements

Anybody tried something like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/development/mod-htc-one-m9-enhanced-thermal-t3369574

Luhccas-X10 said:
Anybody tried something like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/development/mod-htc-one-m9-enhanced-thermal-t3369574
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You should be able to edit the thermal parameters in
/Sys/module/msm_thermal/ if you want
I havent bothered since my z5 only gets hot when im doing 80 things at once
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My Z5 Premium barely goes warm too...
The point here is: Snapdragon 810 accepts this values directly on that path you told, or the one inside system/etc is sufficient?
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Hello, how to keep settings after rebooting the phone ? Thanks

Luhccas-X10 said:
My Z5 Premium barely goes warm too...
The point here is: Snapdragon 810 accepts this values directly on that path you told, or the one inside system/etc is sufficient?
Sent from my Xperia Z5 Premium!
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im pretty sure most Snapdragon 810 devices should be fine with these paths as i asked a freind with a nexus 6p to check if corectl was there and it is. im not too sure about /system/etc i usualy dont bother to look around there for stuff like this.

hug42 said:
Hello, how to keep settings after rebooting the phone ? Thanks
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you may have to make some sort of script or use an app that copies modified versions for now untill an app implements the features required, i haved asked that this gets implemented into kernel adiutor but im not sure if that'll happen or not.

hug42 said:
Hello, how to keep settings after rebooting the phone ? Thanks
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You can add lines inside the init.qcom.post_boot.sh files in / system / etc / in the part where it sets the sd810 (msm 8994, from line 867 onwards) Link: imgur .com/svfZ6ZE

Anyone have any battery comparisons before vs after?

Lrs95 said:
You can add lines inside the init.qcom.post_boot.sh files in / system / etc / in the part where it sets the sd810 (msm 8994, from line 867 onwards) Link: imgur .com/svfZ6ZE
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Thanks
i'm a beginner, I don't find the core_ctl folder with the AndroPlus kernel

sovanyio said:
Anyone have any battery comparisons before vs after?
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Im still playing with the setup and at the moment i think ive found one i like as when i tried recording a video with my previous setup my phone lagged up and froze but not yet with this one
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hug42 said:
Thanks
i'm a beginner, I don't find the core_ctl folder with the AndroPlus kernel
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This file is there only by using the stock kernel.
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Envious_Data said:
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Im still playing with the setup and at the moment i think ive found one i like as when i tried recording a video with my previous setup my phone lagged up and froze but not yet with this one
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Hot damn! Ok I'm convinced haha

Envious_Data said:
Im still playing with the setup and at the moment i think ive found one i like as when i tried recording a video with my previous setup my phone lagged up and froze but not yet with this one
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That's fantastic...
I have 7.5hr SOT on my Z5p with moderate usage (almost a day)...
Your battery life is tempting me to root my phone!

Benchmark Table Comparison - 3DMark and Geekbench 4.2

Hello and welcome!
This morning I began wandering the XDA ZUK Z2 forums, looking at all these new threads and posts. I'm really impressed with all the progress for the Z2 that developers have been making lately. So I decided to try a few new ROMs.
I have always found really interesting to test new ROMs, set them up, install everything back and then use the ROM for a few days to see how everything goes... Only to find out that a new feature has been released or a new version of the ROM I'm currently using and the process begins again, it's really cool :victory:
So today I picked a few ROMs, and decided to try them all, run a few benchs and write down the results. At the end I thought I could share the data gathered and perhaps we could get some idea of how these ROMs perform.
So the general process was the next:
Wipe everything but internal.
Flash ROM and ROM alone, no GAPPs, Magisk or MODs.
Wipe Dalvik and Cache (dev recommendation).
Shutdown from recovery, boot, install benchmark apps and restart.
Clear recents and begin benchmarks.
Notes:
TWRP used was latest official version.
Baseband is the latest official baseband for the chinese Z2.
ROM version was the latest as of yesterday.
Kept the phone above 40% battery, so battery charging was needed between ROM flashing from time to time.
Cooled phone between benchmarks, as to prevent throttling from affecting the benchmarks, however didn't add cooling when benchmarking.
Alright then! Let's get down to it!
Data:
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SSE: Sling Shot Extreme.
SSE scores: Overall scrore, graphics score, physics score. Ditto for Vulkan.
Geekbench 4 scores: Single core, multi core.
Geekbench 4 COM: Compute benchmark.
Now let's talk a bit about these numbers. As you can see Oreo ROMs get higher scores in both 3DMark and Geekbench benchmarks, with Cosmic getting the higher score in the Sling Shot Extreme OpenGL benchmark and Cypher in the Vulkan variant, although not by much. In Geekbench Jaguar leads with the higher score in both the single core and multi core test. Now look at every Oreo multi core score, it is higher than its Nougat counterpart, I wonder if this is in part because of the drivers or OS optimizations, however I also wonder how this shows, if it show at all, in real world usage.
I would like to note that if I'm not mistaken Jaguar had increased CPU frequencies, not sure about the GPU though, and that could be one factor for the increased scores, however OMNI got really close to Jaguar and again, if I'm not mistaken, Jaguar is based on OMNI. I would like to point that as the day passed the room temperature increased (hot day), so take the temp thresholds with a grain of salt. The battery percentage loss found in the table is that which 3DMark reported in the OpenGL test.
One thing is that even when the numbers varies from ROM to ROM the difference is not that huge (around 12% max in the multi core CPU test), and most importantly... how this translates to real world usage?
So perhaps you noticed the last column, Dolphin. I decided to install the latest Dolphin version and run The Legend of Zelda - Wind Waker intro screen and write down the highest and lowest FPS reported by the emulator. What we find is that the scores do not always reflect into the emulator FPS. Also there is a 'DoT' in almost all ROMs, what does that means? Well DoT stands for slowDown on Touch, yeah it makes no sense but it stuck. When running the emulator if the phone detects no input from the touch screen the FPS slow down by approximately 40%, that's what DoT means, I had to keep touching the screen to get full FPS, only on Citrus this was not the case, and I was getting full FPS with no input whatsoever.
So what all this means? Surely we always like to see higher numbers, I know do. But with time I have found that higher numbers are not necessarily better, or that it does not translate to better performance, battery life or SoT, stability, features, etc., for example in Oreo ROMs I always liked more how colors showed in the screen, even though we have KCAL in Nougat ROMs too. Also I ran these benchmarks only once, so they are not one hundred percent accurate. Usually more runs = more score accuracy, so take these with a grain of salt.
For fun I decided to OC the CPU when using Citrus 3.5, set Adreno boost to high (honestly don't know what it does just that it boosts something related to the GPU I guess haha) and even when the benchmarks didn't improve that much (actually it got a worse multi core CPU score) I got better Dolphin FPS, and that just proves my point.
And that was just one real world test which I think it's heavier on the CPU. I would like to test an intensive GPU game and get some data on that. Also, numbers don't say much when talking about customization and features, so to really feel a ROM you have to test it out yourself.
It would have been awesome if I had have the time to test more ROMs or kernels, I just picked some ROMs from the Telegram group and some here randomly. But! That means that there is more out there for you to try out! As I said in a post this morning: That just means you have a lot of options to choose from and have fun installing, customizing and using the ROMs in your phone.
So yeah, had fun doing this and wanted to share. A HUGE thanks to all the developers out there! Thank you for giving life to our device! :highfive:
EDIT. Please forgive my english, I'm still learning

Great info , thanks :fingers-crossed:

Cypher OS Oreo download link please!

sanketp60 said:
Cypher OS Oreo download link please!
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Sure! It has the 'Now Playing' feature, really neat.
Download
Thanks to the Lenovo ZUK Z2 - Portal Telegram group for the link.

Avan7 said:
Sure! It has the 'Now Playing' feature, really neat.
Download
Thanks to the Lenovo ZUK Z2 - Portal Telegram group for the link.
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Any bug around there in that rom?

suggestion for best gaming and battery friendly rom.

kashyapp said:
Any bug around there in that rom?
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Actually I just installed and ran the benchmarks right away, so I couldn't really say about bugs or share an overall experience.
amit gaikwad said:
suggestion for best gaming and battery friendly rom.
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I think the most battery friendly ROM would be stock. However custom ROMs keep improving, so that's awesome. Other than that, this was just an experiment to get some numbers therefore I can't really say about battery.
There are so many factors, like battery drain on light and moderate usage and heavy CPU and/or GPU usage, deep sleep, hpereat, stability, user experiencie, etc.
It is hard to measure these with benchmarks alone.

Fascinating post, thank you for doing this!! I just bought this device for 7k refurb (approx 100$), should easily last a year or more.
Would it be possible to do a run with the Pixel Experience rom? Or is that one similar to the other ones you've already done? Just doing my research on this device and the various roms, its blowing me away how much horsepower exists in this thing for the low price!

Whats Citrus 3.5 OC?
Link Anyone?

Thanks for the comparison. But I was wondering, AEX is arguably the most popular ROM for Z2, so why skip that one?

frozenfirevr said:
Thanks for the comparison. But I was wondering, AEX is arguably the most popular ROM for Z2, so why skip that one?
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+1
Sent from my Z2 Plus using XDA Labs

sanketp60 said:
Whats Citrus 3.5 OC?
Link Anyone?
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Citrus 3.5 by miju but with an OC applied with the custom Kernel Adiutor for the Z2
frozenfirevr said:
Thanks for the comparison. But I was wondering, AEX is arguably the most popular ROM for Z2, so why skip that one?
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I understand and the reason is that I decided to try a batch of ROMs I hadn't tried before. I wanted to try many more, but time didn't allow it. Perhaps sometime close I'll do another run :fingers-crossed:

Very interesting! Thanks for your time.
Im considering to flash jaguar... im now on aex 5.2 but seems that jaguar is smoother and run good. Waiting for new latest builds to test this two and decide.

Avan7 said:
I understand and the reason is that I decided to try a batch of ROMs I hadn't tried before. I wanted to try many more, but time didn't allow it. Perhaps sometime close I'll do another run :fingers-crossed:
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Cool, thanks. Mind sharing your experience with each of the ROM also, if you spent any time with them? Have you chosen any one?

Terrible performance in games

Hello,
I have an h918 on Tmobile. Recently i've noticed that any high end games I try to play turn into slideshows after a few minutes.
Yesterday I replaced the CPU thermal paste with Arctic Silver and changed my thermal conf file.
I get a better score in benchmarks, but still get the slideshow after a few minutes. One main example is Order and Chaos 2.
I've got all settings on low also. The rest of the phone is very fast though...Anybody have a fix?
Super rom - https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/rom-superv20-h918-t3764390
Thermal file - https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/mod-fix-cpu-throttling-charging-gaming-t3650705
Ex Kernel in performance mode and nothing else running.
Went from 120k to 158k in Antutu after thermal paste change.
Edit: Now running with little cores on Performance and big on blu_active. Max gpu clock at 624mhz.
I also tried setting max background processes to 1 in dev options.

slayerh4x said:
Hello,
I have an h918 on Tmobile. Recently i've noticed that any high end games I try to play turn into slideshows after a few minutes.
Yesterday I replaced the CPU thermal paste with Arctic Silver and changed my thermal conf file.
I get a better score in benchmarks, but still get the slideshow after a few minutes. One main example is Order and Chaos 2.
I've got all settings on low also. The rest of the phone is very fast though...Anybody have a fix?
Super rom - https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/rom-superv20-h918-t3764390
Thermal file - https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/mod-fix-cpu-throttling-charging-gaming-t3650705
Ex Kernel in performance mode and nothing else running.
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Are you rooted? If yes then install kernel adiutor and check your max gpu cloock speed. Mine drop to 316mhz whenever the phone gets hot, but setting it to max clock speed (624mhz) prior to opening games works for me.

slayerh4x said:
Hello,
I have an h918 on Tmobile. Recently i've noticed that any high end games I try to play turn into slideshows after a few minutes.
Yesterday I replaced the CPU thermal paste with Arctic Silver and changed my thermal conf file.
I get a better score in benchmarks, but still get the slideshow after a few minutes. One main example is Order and Chaos 2.
I've got all settings on low also. The rest of the phone is very fast though...Anybody have a fix?
Super rom - https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/rom-superv20-h918-t3764390
Thermal file - https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/mod-fix-cpu-throttling-charging-gaming-t3650705
Ex Kernel in performance mode and nothing else running.
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You should use the mk2000 BTTF kernel if you aren't already, set your big cores to blu_active governor and your LITTTLE cores to performance. Make sure Max GPU clock is 624mhz and then run games and report back. This is the exact setting I use on my H918 running alpha rom and PUBG runs very smooth at 50-60FPS, phone barely gets hot and I've not even done any thermal paste mods.

I am rooted and on that mk2000 kernel too.
I tried doing these settings and it started off working great... I thought it was fixed.
After about 10 minutes it dropped back down to 3-5 fps and back to a slideshow afterwards.
My phone doesn't even feel hot either... so weird.

Try running this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=skynet.cputhrottlingtest
See what your results are.

10 minute run with the default 20 threads.
I closed everything except Pandora, like when I play a game.
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slayerh4x said:
10 minute run with the default 20 threads.
I closed everything except Pandora, like when I play a game.
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Huh. I was hoping that would show real degradation. Guess not.
Maybe it's a game issue, and less about the phone itself? Sorry man, I got nothin.

Mnementh666 said:
Huh. I was hoping that would show real degradation. Guess not.
Maybe it's a game issue, and less about the phone itself? Sorry man, I got nothin.
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I know dude this sucks.... one guy on my ROMs thread suggested that maybe I didn't put enough paste on.
What I used was a little old too. So i ordered a new tube from Amazon and will reapply tonight. Maybe that will help.
Do you think something could be messed up with my kernel or rom?

I was just looking in the thermal-engine-8996.conf file.
The set_points for CPUs are 85/65 under most sections.
Under [Kryo_SS] the set_point is 40/38.5.
I couldn't find a definition for Kryo_SS and those values are half of the others. Could this be my issue?
Also tested on different games such as Nitro Nation 6. I got an app that shows temps in the status bar and its between 50c-71c.

slayerh4x said:
I was just looking in the thermal-engine-8996.conf file.
The set_points for CPUs are 85/65 under most sections.
Under [Kryo_SS] the set_point is 40/38.5.
I couldn't find a definition for Kryo_SS and those values are half of the others. Could this be my issue?
Also tested on different games such as Nitro Nation 6. I got an app that shows temps in the status bar and its between 50c-71c.
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May i have the name of that app to have the temps in the status bar?

Sounds to me like a faulty phone. I would consider myself a hard core mobile gamer and my v20 runs a like a champ. I run games like pubg and everything is fine. I do use l speed and set it to gaming and performance for that extra kick.

XsaucerX said:
May i have the name of that app to have the temps in the status bar?
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CPU Monitor, green icon.

Okay so last night I applied a different thermal compound. The one I used is for low contact pressure CPUs.
This stuff was like mercury, so runny.
I wiped my device and did a clean install of my ROM. Now everything seems to be great...
So... It was either not enough paste, bad paste or something with an app.
Thanks for the help everyone.

Mnementh666 said:
Huh. I was hoping that would show real degradation. Guess not.
Maybe it's a game issue, and less about the phone itself? Sorry man, I got nothin.
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His phone clearly is locked at 1.47GHz and not at 2+ which is why you see the steady difference. the MIPS should be 65+ in throttling test.
Mine on lineage 15.1 stays at 55-60 too at 1.1GHz even after thermal paste change. Probably something bad with the kernel. I even set governors to userspace or ondemand but it doesn't do anything. Even set big cores minimum clock to 1.5GHz still it locks at 1.1GHz.
slayerh4x said:
Okay so last night I applied a different thermal compound. The one I used is for low contact pressure CPUs.
This stuff was like mercury, so runny.
I wiped my device and did a clean install of my ROM. Now everything seems to be great...
So... It was either not enough paste, bad paste or something with an app.
Thanks for the help everyone.
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Can you link the thermal compound?

dark_prince said:
His phone clearly is locked at 1.47GHz and not at 2+ which is why you see the steady difference. the MIPS should be 65+ in throttling test.
Mine on lineage 15.1 stays at 55-60 too at 1.1GHz even after thermal paste change. Probably something bad with the kernel. I even set governors to userspace or ondemand but it doesn't do anything. Even set big cores minimum clock to 1.5GHz still it locks at 1.1GHz.
Can you link the thermal compound?
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https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Grizzly-Conductonaut-extra-Applicators/dp/B078J4PSHM/ref=sr_1_12?dd=FOXG1v3D2jw5F2kJqVhekw%2C%2C&ie=UTF8&qid=1530560151&sr=8-12&keywords=coollaboratory&refinements=p_90%3A8308921011

Trying this out after changing my thermal paste again since I put too much the 1st time. Is anyone else getting conflicting results from CPU temp apps? I've tried like 4 apps so far including the one the OP had in his status bar and every single app has shown a different temp for the CPU. Anyone have any input? I'm not well versed in sensors and stuff so maybe 1 app is pulling info from a different sensor than what the other app is showing???

Same here friend. I have an LS997 and it is terible at gaming. For PUBG Mobile, at first I can play it with balance graphic, medium frame rate. After few minutes, the phone becomes hot and game is turn to slow-motion mode.
Since I don't have root so the only thing I expect is Oreo would solved the issue. However, issue still persists

slayerh4x said:
https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Griz...ds=coollaboratory&refinements=p_90:8308921011
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Well of course your getting better temps your using Liquid Metal for cooling, which is normally used on de-lidding high-end Intel CPU's for PC's to make them run considerably cooler...normally a difference of 10-15c on that alone...I'm gonna use Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut cause I'm cheap lol