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Battery drain on nexus 4 since yesterday

So, yesterday I noticed a sudden battery drain on my nexus 4. After checking battery it showed that AndroidOS takes over about 50% of the battery usage. It also showed that time awake was pretty much the same as the amount of time since I unplugged the phone, even though I kept my phone in sleep mode for the most of the day. After some research I downloaded better battery stats and it showed that from the moment I turn the screen off a process called suspend_backoff runs pretty much the entire time. Eventually I got it down to wifi. If I turn off wifi there are no processes running after the screen is turned off (or if there are they are 30 seconds tops), but the moment I turn wifi on suspend_backoff runs pretty much the entire time screen is off. I tried removing all of my apps, as well as doing factory reset but nothing helps. The moment I turn wifi ON this suspend_backoff consumes pretty much all the time during screen off period. Is anyone experiencing anything like this ? I have 4.2.2 on the phone and I havent' seen this extreme drain until just yesterday.

I experience the samething. Android OS would drain as much as the screen time.
I narrowed it down to the suspend_backoff. But the weird thing is that when i'm at home on my home wifi, suspend_backoff doesn't seem to drain anything at all. But when I'm at school, suspend_backoff kicks in.
Anyone help?

hihihoho said:
I experience the samething. Android OS would drain as much as the screen time.
I narrowed it down to the suspend_backoff. But the weird thing is that when i'm at home on my home wifi, suspend_backoff doesn't seem to drain anything at all. But when I'm at school, suspend_backoff kicks in.
Anyone help?
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how did you narrow it down? Im having the same problem!

This is caused by a kernel wakelock. A bad mobile connection make battery drain worse... using WLAN nearly fixes this problem.
Thought this problem has got fixed in 4.2.2, at least battery life got improved and the wakelock reduced.
If it is appearing since yesterday, it is triggered by a app often waking the phone up using mobile data (that's why fixed with WLAN) and prevent the phone from getting into deep sleep as fast as it should.
hope i could help.

I use Greenify to hibernate every single user installed apps, then I release them one by one to see which one cause suspend backoff. But suspend backoff still occurs. So I think it's the kernel itself.

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hihihoho said:
I use Greenify to hibernate every single user installed apps, then I release them one by one to see which one cause suspend backoff. But suspend backoff still occurs. So I think it's the kernel itself.
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as i said before, an app needs data, so it starts callung the kernel wakelock... this one causes tje drain, not the app itself
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hihihoho said:
I use Greenify to hibernate every single user installed apps, then I release them one by one to see which one cause suspend backoff. But suspend backoff still occurs. So I think it's the kernel itself.
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Yeah, definitely not user apps. I did full reset on the phone to factory settings, no user apps. Even tried disabling Google Play and Google store after the reset. Still the same. The only thing that gets rid of it is disabling WiFi.

hihihoho said:
I experience the samething. Android OS would drain as much as the screen time.
I narrowed it down to the suspend_backoff. But the weird thing is that when i'm at home on my home wifi, suspend_backoff doesn't seem to drain anything at all. But when I'm at school, suspend_backoff kicks in.
Anyone help?
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When did you start noticing this ? Has it been for a while or just recently ? I first noticed it yesterday (had the phone for a bit over a month now, didn't see any issues until just yesterday)

hihihoho said:
I use Greenify to hibernate every single user installed apps, then I release them one by one to see which one cause suspend backoff. But suspend backoff still occurs. So I think it's the kernel itself.
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What is the difference between greenify and limit background apps in developers options?

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stop discussing, use search instead... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1999368
like i told you 3times now.... it's the wakelock
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indoh said:
stop discussing, use search instead... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1999368
like i told you 3times now.... it's the wakelock
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Yeah, it's clear that it's the wakelock. What's not clear is why. Also it's not the msm_hsic_host that the forum link you sent refers to. I don't have a problem with msm_hsic, that one barely takes any time during the day (maybe 30 seconds during several hours of standby). The wakelock causing this particular issue is "suspend_backoff" wakelock which supposedly happens when there is a sequence of sleep/wake calls too close together so the system decides to keep it awake. I was unable to find what exactly is causing the issue, even after restoring to the factory settings I kept seeing the same problem.
Anyway, I was able to "resolve" it by installing JuiceGuard app and setting it so it disables wifi when the screen is off. wakelock is gone now and my battery usage is back to normal.

I only get the suspend backoff wake lock when I'm connected to the university Wifi. When I'm at home, everything is fine, no suspend backoff. So my guess is that the Wifi encryption at university is different and causing a succession of close "awake" and cause wake lock.
I did factory reset like 3 times and it still there.
I'll try disable Wifi on Monday and see how it goes.

Same here, when wifi disabled the wakelock doesn't occur.
I have tried almost all of the kernels and non of them seem to help.

hihihoho said:
I only get the suspend backoff wake lock when I'm connected to the university Wifi. When I'm at home, everything is fine, no suspend backoff. So my guess is that the Wifi encryption at university is different and causing a succession of close "awake" and cause wake lock.
I did factory reset like 3 times and it still there.
I'll try disable Wifi on Monday and see how it goes.
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Interesting... Maybe it is encryption. One thing with my Wifi is that it doesn't use password, but MAC list instead. It may indeed be an issue with different wifi encryption types.

OP do you have maps 6.14 on your phone? Mine kept switching on location reporting for a while and it woke my phone 344 times last night. I've been struggling with the same wake lock issues. I'm going to recharge (again) with maps disabled and see if that helps.
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Check your Google account sync settings... In settings
The clowns may have left you a lovely gift there without telling you or asking any kind of permission.

The latest Maps was giving me horrible battery drain, on WiFi. I'd sleep for six hours with a fully charged phone and wake up with 10% left. it even enabled itself when. I disabled it in settings. I converted it to a user app by moving it to /data/app and greenified it. Seemed to have solved all of my issues with the suspend back off wake lock.

Download greenify
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For some weird reason, I was also having serious battery drain suddenly since yesterday.
Turned out it was maps, and disabling Google network locations hugely increased battery life
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Excessive Deep Sleep Battery Drain

Some of you may have noticed that battery life on this phone can be both unbelievable and mediocre. I've been trying to figure out what can trigger and cause mediocre performance and I'm at a loss. The problem is, there doesn't appear to be a smoking gun. No obvious wake locks. No rogue Apps. I have Carrier IQ disabled by System Tuner. Google Now is off. What I'm running right now is pretty bare bones. And the kicker is my phone is sleeping, as can be seen in the shots below. The vast majority of the time my phone was off the charger it was in deep sleep mode.
I noticed my phone in excessive drain mode Saturday so I let it run over night and into the next day, so that BBS and GSam could pick up as much data as possible, including sitting idle overnight and very little use throughout yesterday.
Here are some shots to show the story. The graph, which is definitely steeper than when idle drain is normal, which resulted in idle drain of about 6% per hour. Also as can be seen in these shots, there is not a wakelock problem. Deep sleep shows as 12 hours 38 minutes, Awake time of 1 hour 8 minutes, and screen on time of 1 hour. So, my phone was only "awake" for 8 minutes when the screen was off out of almost 14 hours according to BBS.
I did notice and oddity here though. BBS listed the unplugged status as 13 hours 47 minutes, while the phone's battery meter listed it at 12 hours 13 minutes.
Attached are the shots I took at 19%, as well as a final battery meter shot after charging the phone to full while powered off and restarting, where it's been purring like a kitten in deep sleep.
Part of me is beginning to believe there is a bug with the battery gauge. What do you guys think is going on?

Try clearing data for google play services,google services framework and playsore than reboot and check if things changed.
And i would recommend uninstall the updates related to those apps and let them update itself again.
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gm007 said:
Try clearing data for google play services,google services framework and playsore than reboot and check if things changed.
And i would recommend uninstall the updates related to those apps and let them update itself again.
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Done. Although I won't know if any attempts to resolve the issue have worked until the idle drain triggers again (or doesn't).
Thanks for the advice.

Well unfortunately that didn't solve the issue. The heavy deep sleep drain again triggered after a bit over one full day. I charged to full last night and let sit over night where it drained 6% per hour with no obvious culprit. Anyone else have any suggestions?

It seem that your signal is week, did you get stable signal and have you tried airplane mode, to find out how much battery drain in this mode?
Also, did you disable LG MLT? This is a massive app from LG, can consumed about 150 MB RAM.

This might sound boneheaded, but what about just resetting the phone. Maybe some system app is causing some type of memory leak and thus draining your battery. Also disable wifi when you're not using it.

I don't think it's signal related. I get an excellent signal at work and the idle drain still occurs. Also, it happens whether wifi is on or not. I have not disabled MLT, as I'm not concerned about RAM, just running processes. Rebooting the phone eliminates the issue, so something is obviously getting hung. The really odd thing is I was draining 6%/hr overnight, all while the phone was in deep sleep, yet my top battery consuming category was the screen at 35%, with just 1 hour of screen on time of 10 hours off the charger. If something was cranking in Android System that caused 40% drain overnight I would have expected Android System to be higher. It doesn't make any sense.
I may just have to factory reset.

My battery's been great until couple of days ago when I turned on GPS and Voice Notification (for speaking out names when phone call/message comes in). After I noticed the abnormal battery drain, I turned off those two options, because that's the only thing I did differently before noticing the drain. However, that didn't help... yet. I needed to do a reboot and battery's been fine again. Not sure if those two were the actual culprit, or just coincidence.
Have you changed any settings right before you noticed the drain? Just a thought.

had the same issue., wakelock detector, BBS, GSAM nothing could show what was eating the battery. i use mobile browsing a lot and almost 8/10 times this battery drain was happening with chrome , chrome beta and firefox browsers.
Only thing thats helping me is the Greenify app . Greenified the chrome and firefox and almost all the cloud apps and the battery is now much much better.
still ...IT IS AN PROBLEM to be found..

To provide a bit more info on this, attached is a pic of my reboot a couple hours ago (marked by the thin white vertical line). The change in the slope of the drainage line is drastic. Also, notice the small hump after the reboot? The line actually increased a bit, fell, then flat lined. More and more I'm beginning to suspect the battery gauge, but I just don't know.
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I have the same situation after charging. Even in"deep sleep" it would chew through the battery. Now I just reboot the phone after charging and it plays nice. The gerbil on the wheel seems to take a break and rest.

To all who have excessive battery drain, did you charge your phone while it is on or off?
Some where in this forum (if not mistaken), I read that there is a bug while charging G2 when it is on. You should reboot your phone after it is fully charged otherwise you will experience excessive battery drain.
Mine always charged it while it is off and never had problem with battery life.

i got the same issue which is very annoying, have over 85% deep sleep, no wake lock, battery draining like crazy, and it happens randomly. I wonder if factory rest fixes the problem, or hardware issue
i have done a bit testing for this random drain,
with mobile signal on ==> huge drain
without mobile signal on and only phone signal ==> huge drain
airplane mode ==> no drain
so i believe it is a bug within the phone software, actually sometimes the random drain started after a phone call

I've been getting the drain too in the past few days. Last time i could fix it by factory resetting, but obviously I don't feel like doing that once per month. What I do know is that flashing another stock ROM (kdz) without factory resetting doesn't fix it. However last night I figured i'd try disabling WiFi (kept it on during the night until now) and I only drained 1% in 5 hours, down from 3% per hour. Perhaps this bug is related to WiFi.

Have you disabled LG MLT? It acts like CIQ for internal LG purposes. I have personally seen it cause mass wakelock in unexplained situations. If I leave everything on overnight under 95% battery, I will get around a 3% drain in about 7 hours. Pretty normal. The first 5% on these batteries seem magical. At 100%, with everything on, I wake to 100%.

Yup, frozen in TiBu. Will be factory resetting however when I get home as GSAM grabbed my attention. Never were system things so high up the list when i had no drain.
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htcm7 said:
To all who have excessive battery drain, did you charge your phone while it is on or off?
Some where in this forum (if not mistaken), I read that there is a bug while charging G2 when it is on. You should reboot your phone after it is fully charged otherwise you will experience excessive battery drain.
Mine always charged it while it is off and never had problem with battery life.
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I been struggling with this since I got the phone (almost a month now). I've done all the usual:
Removing bloat
Disabled CIQ
Disabled Google Now, Location, GPS
and I have the same apps as my Nexus 5
Just last night I realized that this battery drain only happens after taking it off the charger. This got me to add the word "charging" in my search and I found this thread.
Is this hardware related, or would a custom ROM resolve this? I have the AT&T version.

Ok and which stock rom does not do that?

shilent said:
I been struggling with this since I got the phone (almost a month now). I've done all the usual:
Removing bloat
Disabled CIQ
Disabled Google Now, Location, GPS
and I have the same apps as my Nexus 5
Just last night I realized that this battery drain only happens after taking it off the charger. This got me to add the word "charging" in my search and I found this thread.
Is this hardware related, or would a custom ROM resolve this? I have the AT&T version.
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Probably this is a software issue. Never heard this problem on latest firmware or custom ROM.

htcm7 said:
Probably this is a software issue. Never heard this problem on latest firmware or custom ROM.
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Guys could you write which stock rom does this wakelocks for you so we could eliminate corrupt firmwares?
For example I experience these wakelocks on latest F international version.

New Google Play Services v4.4.52!

Hello folks,
When I bumped into this thread which listed a version of Google Play Services, version 4.4.52; I immediately updated mine which was suffering from extreme wakelocks (I was on 4.3.25).
Here is my phone running the latest version
http://imgur.com/a/6GLPy#ht9dYJO
After installing the new package I went to bed, hoping to wake up in the morning to an improved and reduced battery use. Boy was I wrong!
My phone was awake for the entire 9 hours while I slept!
http://imgur.com/a/6GLPy#6kdFZx7
Look at the awake bar, and notice how it never went into deep sleep! Fortunately, after a couple of reboots my phone was able to enter deep sleep. But, compared to numerous screen shots of other users' battery stats, my phone displays significantly more awake periods.
Keep in mind I have factory reset 3 times now, and the wakelocks continue to occur and plague my existence, resulting in furious vain attempts at finding a fix. The only way to prevent such wakelocks and idle battery drain for me was to disable location services, hence crippling Google Now and other location features.
Does anyone else suffer from poor battery life despite disabling all gimmicky features such as hand motions as well as bloatware?
Have you been able to develop a solution?

I ran into huge battery drain with the past 2 Play Services updates. The latest (4.4.52) I thought fixed the problem, but only for a day. I just rebooted to fix the wake lock I was having. Frustrated.... Nexus 5 here.

mrdally204 said:
I ran into huge battery drain with the past 2 Play Services updates. The latest (4.4.52) I thought fixed the problem, but only for a day. I just rebooted to fix the wake lock I was having. Frustrated.... Nexus 5 here.
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Interestingly enough the 4.4.52 update was never pushed to the galaxy s5, I manually installed it.
Even with location turned off I woke up this morning to this:
http://i.imgur.com/KDGUm3c.jpg

Massive wake lock and battery drain

Hi guys,
I have been having an issue with my Motorola X Play (UK Single Sim) I have only owned it for a few months from new.... The battery is draining fast and I can see in the battery stats that it's not sleeping, otherwise the battery usage page shows nothing of interest, apart from perhaps Mobile Standby which is quite high, above the screen but the signal bar is all green...
I rooted my phone to better find out what was causing these issues, otherwise stock Marshmallow. Unfortunately Motorola now are not interested as they say my phone is rooted and now has no warranty - useless idiots!
Using GS Sam battery monitor (rooted) I can see that the following is keeping the phone awake, no other app is.
48.3% of battery consumed by Kernel (Android OS)
Keep awake over 2 hours
CPU usage 59m 53s
Number of Wake Locks: 1
Byes sent: 246.21KB
Bytes Received: 5.70MB
App UID: 0
Wakelock Detail:
Google_C2DM 0.0s (1)
I have tried safe mode but it appears to be the same, I have hardly any apps installed apart from Facebook and Facebook messenger and I have even tried it without them...
I have tried turning off/on WiFi / Location / GPS is now disabled. WiFi Scanning is off. Restarts make no difference... I have even done a factory reset about a month ago.
Any ideas, this phone is having the same battery life or less than my Nexus 5 which had a much smaller battery...
Many thanks

here's a way to avoid it http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/help/google-c2dm-checkin-services-t1321520
i'll update if i find anything else.
don't tell them your device is rooted. if you go to service center just re-lock the bootloader and its back to normal.[it won't get your warranty back but they don't check that much]
can you post a screenshot of gs sam.

1 - Install BetterBatteryStats (BBS) - this will give you detailed information on what is draining your battery. Get it from XDA v2.2.0.0B6 - this gives you the detailed breakdown in the UI that you are after, the google play version doesn't do it in the UI (older version).
Get baseline results (charge it full, don't touch it for 5-6 hours) I like to do this while sleeping.
2 - Install Greenify (you don't need the Xposed module if you don't want to fiddle with that yet, alto I highly recommend it) set the working mode to root. If applications are still not sleeping, add the widget and force sleep everything before you turn off your screen
Get BBS results (do the 5-6 hours while sleeping) - improved?
3 - Install Naptime from the google play store (by Fransico Franco)
Get BBS results - improved?
Getting anal about battery usage?
4- Read up on Amplify - this yielded even more results for me. But this can take a bit of work to get right. There's a lot of great threads on XDA for setting this up.
5 -Smart network - allows you to control data, networks, wifi, bluetooh, nfc, gps on/off with a ton of great features for auto. management.
I have all the above and yield a 0.4%/hr drain on stand by (see signature for phone build).

Amplify is a god sent app. It has been 4 hours now, and I have been using whatsapp on and off (about 20 seconds each time) and I still have 97% left in the tank.

LaurenceGough said:
Hi guys,
I have been having an issue with my Motorola X Play (UK Single Sim) I have only owned it for a few months from new.... The battery is draining fast and I can see in the battery stats that it's not sleeping, otherwise the battery usage page shows nothing of interest, apart from perhaps Mobile Standby which is quite high, above the screen but the signal bar is all green...
I rooted my phone to better find out what was causing these issues, otherwise stock Marshmallow. Unfortunately Motorola now are not interested as they say my phone is rooted and now has no warranty - useless idiots!
Using GS Sam battery monitor (rooted) I can see that the following is keeping the phone awake, no other app is.
48.3% of battery consumed by Kernel (Android OS)
Keep awake over 2 hours
CPU usage 59m 53s
Number of Wake Locks: 1
Byes sent: 246.21KB
Bytes Received: 5.70MB
App UID: 0
Wakelock Detail:
Google_C2DM 0.0s (1)
I have tried safe mode but it appears to be the same, I have hardly any apps installed apart from Facebook and Facebook messenger and I have even tried it without them...
I have tried turning off/on WiFi / Location / GPS is now disabled. WiFi Scanning is off. Restarts make no difference... I have even done a factory reset about a month ago.
Any ideas, this phone is having the same battery life or less than my Nexus 5 which had a much smaller battery...
Many thanks
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Facebook app has been known to cause serious battery drain in the past. Uninstall it and test again.
In 99% of the cases it is caused by an app. Try to find out which one is causing the drain.

Hi all,
Sorry for the delay and thanks for the replies. I performed a factory reset again, after clearing the cache etc, the same as I did last time. The only difference is I then installed Android 6.0.1
The battery drain has now gone. I didn't perform a restore of apps etc, and the only apps I have installed so far in addition have been Facebook and Facebook messenger but I have found these have had no effect at all on the battery drain. I haven't even updated the stock apps (apart from the security ones).
I now get two days of use easy. It also seems to be running slightly faster. I will update apps one by one, over the course of a few days to make sure nothing causes it again...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
I use this guide, works really great to limit wake locks.
And I don't use Fb app but use the browser instead, battery lasts easily two days of "heavy" usage !

I found the problem, or at least a major bug. Whenever you cast to Google Chromecast Audio and then stop casting completely there is a massive wakelock until you next restart the phone. My phone was awake all night and down to 20% battery life. Android OS takes a massive portion of the battery life and under keep awake stats it's 9 hours +. It seems that when it says disconnected it is not. A major bug! I'll try and report it using Google's bug reporter...

LaurenceGough said:
I found the problem, or at least a major bug. Whenever you cast to Google Chromecast Audio and then stop casting completely there is a massive wakelock until you next restart the phone. My phone was awake all night and down to 20% battery life. Android OS takes a massive portion of the battery life and under keep awake stats it's 9 hours +. It seems that when it says disconnected it is not. A major bug! I'll try and report it using Google's bug reporter...
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not even Doze could kill it? perhaps you could try Servicely and see if it could stop the thing from running.

pijes said:
not even Doze could kill it? perhaps you could try Servicely and see if it could stop the thing from running.
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Nope, Doze had no affect at all but it should be as it was sitting stationary overnight - normally the drain overnight is a few percent at the most, last night it was around 65% and I was left with 20% in the morning and this was I think the first time I had used Google Chromecast Audio since the factory reset with great battery life up to last night... I could try Servicely but I am not sure on the service to kill and I'd like to keep it 100% stock for now so I can help out Google to fix the bug (or Motorola if they bother)... What a pain as I just bought 4x Google Chromecast Audios!!
I have reported it here in the Android bug tracker, feel free to comment / star the issue to bring it to Google's attention.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=208324
However I am not sure if this is a Motorola Issue or a Google Marshmallow / Chromecast issue?? Motorola support have been very unhelpful so no luck if that is the case...
If anyone else with Chromecast Audio could confirm the bug that would be great.
Thanks
Laurence

There's a post on reddit about battery drain with chromecast audio about a year ago, not sure if it's the same issue though.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/fix-fix-systemupdateservice-wakelock-t3060548
maybe this help, on moto g this helped

apart from greenify and naptime...i dont think we have something like amplify yet for nougat devices, also with the governor scripts they are providing better results now

yep

miss5tability said:
i dont have root etc but on my just buy moto x play with stock android 6 i dont have 2 sensors working and deep sleep is gone so battery drain... even after cler cache. reset etc, this phone is pure ****
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If you bought it brand new just go back to the shop for replacement

pijes said:
If you bought it brand new just go back to the shop for replacement
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yep

Battery Drain | Idle

My Essential PH 1 is draining a lot.
Phone idle is taking most power with approximately 17%. Screenshots attached.
Can you please advise if this is normal and ways to minimize battery drain ?

manuvarghese said:
My Essential PH 1 is draining a lot.
Phone idle is taking most power with approximately 17%. Screenshots attached.
Can you please advise if this is normal and ways to minimize battery drain ?
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Are you showing off? because those are amazing numbers. You're on track for 35 hours! I get around 26. Your bigger killer is What's App, but that's expected for a Facebook app. 17% for idle means your phone is on and doing nothing 17% of the time.
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reverenddak said:
Are you showing off? because those are amazing numbers. You're on track for 35 hours! I get around 26. Your bigger killer is What's App, but that's expected for a Facebook app. 17% for idle means your phone is on and doing nothing 17% of the time.
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Nope I am not showing off, I think i am having huge drains when I am asleep. Most of the time in that graph is idle time so i am thinking it should be better ?
Again I moved recently to droid from iOS so i am unsure of the droid power management baselines.

manuvarghese said:
Nope I am not showing off, I think i am having huge drains when I am asleep. Most of the time in that graph is idle time so i am thinking it should be better ?
Again I moved recently to droid from iOS so i am unsure of the droid power management baselines.
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Cool. I didn't mean to seem mean, but those are good numbers. If your phone is on, and you have push notifications (pretty much every social media app, phone, sms, etc.) you're going to have drain. Even if the phone was off, the battery would drain somewhat. But you have What's App and other chat apps, so that'll use battery, even if your asleep, the phone isn't. It's the only way you would be able to receive calls, text, updates, etc.
That 17% looks steep, but it's all relative to a small screen. over the span of 20 hours and you still have almost 50% battery, especially with "free" apps that are basically advertising engines pushing ads at your every minute. Having Phone Idle at the top is not a bad thing, it just means you don't use your phone as much as you use What's App.

1% per hour is good, better than our S8 even

I had enabled "Cellular data always active" and it chewed through my battery life. I turned it off and can now last 1.5 days on a charge.

My phone is draining 12% overnight. And phone idle is top of the list. What does this phone idle do? There was a random night where the phone only dropped 1%. But most nights, it's draining around 10% with phone idle at the top.
Update: setting wifi to not stay on while phone is sleeping seems to fix the drain issue.

boidsonly said:
I had enabled "Cellular data always active" and it chewed through my battery life. I turned it off and can now last 1.5 days on a charge.
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Does disabling it affect receiving messages that rely on mobile data such as WhatsApp?

Where is the "cellular data always active" setting? I don't see it. Have not updated to run Oreo.
My battery was dropping from 95% to 5% overnight. Did a factory reset which helped, but I'm still losing 17-20% overnight. Seems odd to me on a brand new phone, but I have never owned an Android before. I have blocked notifications and location services from nearly all of my apps. Any advice other than what has already been posted?

If your losing that much overnight it's probably a bad app.
I don't use it, but have read that the Facebook messenger is good for that. As in eating up a battery overnight.

spounce said:
Where is the "cellular data always active" setting? I don't see it. Have not updated to run Oreo.
My battery was dropping from 95% to 5% overnight. Did a factory reset which helped, but I'm still losing 17-20% overnight. Seems odd to me on a brand new phone, but I have never owned an Android before. I have blocked notifications and location services from nearly all of my apps. Any advice other than what has already been posted?
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I can promise you that that's not normal, especially for this phone. Overnight battery loss is minimal, 15 hours of idle with a 10% drain is what I'm getting. That's pretty amazing. I'd check your apps and ask the general android forums for advice. I also bet there is a rogue app draining you juice. chat and social media apps with all their pushed content and friend updates are huge battery killers.

Install accu battery ,charger to full last thing at night ,don't touch through night ,then see what's draining battery ,mine drains by about 2/3% through 8/9 hrs at night
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Where is the "cellular data always active" setting? I don't see it. Have not updated to run Oreo.
My battery was dropping from 95% to 5% overnight. Did a factory reset which helped, but I'm still losing 17-20% overnight. Seems odd to me on a brand new phone, but I have never owned an Android before. I have blocked notifications and location services from nearly all of my apps. Any advice other than what has already been posted?
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It's under developer options settings. I have mine always active without draining my battery noticeable.
The social media apps such as snapchat, facebook, twitter, etc... are the ones draining your battery while your phone is idle so you need to disable their background data running.

spounce said:
Where is the "cellular data always active" setting? I don't see it. Have not updated to run Oreo.
My battery was dropping from 95% to 5% overnight. Did a factory reset which helped, but I'm still losing 17-20% overnight. Seems odd to me on a brand new phone, but I have never owned an Android before. I have blocked notifications and location services from nearly all of my apps. Any advice other than what has already been posted?
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The option to Cellular Data Always Active is on the Developer Hidden Menu. If you have it enabled you should be able to turn it off.

Thanks to all for the replies. I thought that restoring factory settings had helped somewhat, but it turns out not to have. Battery has just depleted from 100% to 67% in 3 hours while the phone has sat idle.
The only social media apps I have installed are FB and Whatapp. Notifications for both are turned off. Location services for all apps are also off. The only apps I have installed have been download from the Play Store and have run on my previous phones without causing any trouble. Those who replied all suspect a bad app, so I have installed ACCU Battery as suggested to see if I can nail it down.
Thanks again for the responses.

Try this for one night. Right before bed....
1. Turn OFF WiFi
2. Reboot phone
3. Leave WiFi off after reboot
There is a bug in Google Play Services that affects many people on many different phone types since the November updates.
When on wifi, in certain circumstances (many theories on what the actually trigger is) it will cause Google Play Services to run non stop on certain WiFi networks causing huge battery drain.
In this particular scenario, turning off Wifi does not stop the battery drain. The phone has to be reboot.
I don't know if that is what you are experiencing, as you didn't say if it was an app or system taking so much battery, but I thought I would mention it in case it helps.
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Why don't you look in settings/battery and see what is using the highest percentage of the battery?

Have looked in Settings/Battery, but am not seeing anything there that diagnoses the problem to my understanding. Highest use shown is Chrome (4%), then Screen (4%) then Google Play services (3%). ACCU Battery app shows the same. Battery is still losing 10-12% of its charge per hour while the phone is idle.
Have sent a message to Essential support to ask if they know anything about a bug in Google Play services causing battery drain. They have so far only suggested rebooting to safe mode and doing the reset to factory settings. Hasn't helped.
Will try shutting wifi off, rebooting and leaving wifi off tonight as suggested. Not really sure where to go from there even if that does save the battery, as a phone that has its battery drained just by being on wifi is useless to me.

If turning off WiFi and rebooting helps reduce system cpu usage, it is a bug in the software and not the phone. I can reproduce that specific issue on my pixel 2 and Samsung Galaxy s8, too....
If the CPU usage isn't from system, though, or turning WiFi off and rebooting doesn't help then you obviously have a completely different issue and need to troubleshoot further.
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Update:. Nothing Essential support has suggested has helped. Battery is draining to zero overnight while phone is idle both when connected to wifi and when not.
Upon learning that I had purchased the phone at a Telus store in Canada, Essential have said that they can't help me further and have referred me to the store for assistance. I'm disappointed in the lack of support from Essential.