My Essential PH 1 is draining a lot.
Phone idle is taking most power with approximately 17%. Screenshots attached.
Can you please advise if this is normal and ways to minimize battery drain ?
manuvarghese said:
My Essential PH 1 is draining a lot.
Phone idle is taking most power with approximately 17%. Screenshots attached.
Can you please advise if this is normal and ways to minimize battery drain ?
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Are you showing off? because those are amazing numbers. You're on track for 35 hours! I get around 26. Your bigger killer is What's App, but that's expected for a Facebook app. 17% for idle means your phone is on and doing nothing 17% of the time.
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reverenddak said:
Are you showing off? because those are amazing numbers. You're on track for 35 hours! I get around 26. Your bigger killer is What's App, but that's expected for a Facebook app. 17% for idle means your phone is on and doing nothing 17% of the time.
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Nope I am not showing off, I think i am having huge drains when I am asleep. Most of the time in that graph is idle time so i am thinking it should be better ?
Again I moved recently to droid from iOS so i am unsure of the droid power management baselines.
manuvarghese said:
Nope I am not showing off, I think i am having huge drains when I am asleep. Most of the time in that graph is idle time so i am thinking it should be better ?
Again I moved recently to droid from iOS so i am unsure of the droid power management baselines.
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Cool. I didn't mean to seem mean, but those are good numbers. If your phone is on, and you have push notifications (pretty much every social media app, phone, sms, etc.) you're going to have drain. Even if the phone was off, the battery would drain somewhat. But you have What's App and other chat apps, so that'll use battery, even if your asleep, the phone isn't. It's the only way you would be able to receive calls, text, updates, etc.
That 17% looks steep, but it's all relative to a small screen. over the span of 20 hours and you still have almost 50% battery, especially with "free" apps that are basically advertising engines pushing ads at your every minute. Having Phone Idle at the top is not a bad thing, it just means you don't use your phone as much as you use What's App.
1% per hour is good, better than our S8 even
I had enabled "Cellular data always active" and it chewed through my battery life. I turned it off and can now last 1.5 days on a charge.
My phone is draining 12% overnight. And phone idle is top of the list. What does this phone idle do? There was a random night where the phone only dropped 1%. But most nights, it's draining around 10% with phone idle at the top.
Update: setting wifi to not stay on while phone is sleeping seems to fix the drain issue.
boidsonly said:
I had enabled "Cellular data always active" and it chewed through my battery life. I turned it off and can now last 1.5 days on a charge.
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Does disabling it affect receiving messages that rely on mobile data such as WhatsApp?
Where is the "cellular data always active" setting? I don't see it. Have not updated to run Oreo.
My battery was dropping from 95% to 5% overnight. Did a factory reset which helped, but I'm still losing 17-20% overnight. Seems odd to me on a brand new phone, but I have never owned an Android before. I have blocked notifications and location services from nearly all of my apps. Any advice other than what has already been posted?
If your losing that much overnight it's probably a bad app.
I don't use it, but have read that the Facebook messenger is good for that. As in eating up a battery overnight.
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Where is the "cellular data always active" setting? I don't see it. Have not updated to run Oreo.
My battery was dropping from 95% to 5% overnight. Did a factory reset which helped, but I'm still losing 17-20% overnight. Seems odd to me on a brand new phone, but I have never owned an Android before. I have blocked notifications and location services from nearly all of my apps. Any advice other than what has already been posted?
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I can promise you that that's not normal, especially for this phone. Overnight battery loss is minimal, 15 hours of idle with a 10% drain is what I'm getting. That's pretty amazing. I'd check your apps and ask the general android forums for advice. I also bet there is a rogue app draining you juice. chat and social media apps with all their pushed content and friend updates are huge battery killers.
Install accu battery ,charger to full last thing at night ,don't touch through night ,then see what's draining battery ,mine drains by about 2/3% through 8/9 hrs at night
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Where is the "cellular data always active" setting? I don't see it. Have not updated to run Oreo.
My battery was dropping from 95% to 5% overnight. Did a factory reset which helped, but I'm still losing 17-20% overnight. Seems odd to me on a brand new phone, but I have never owned an Android before. I have blocked notifications and location services from nearly all of my apps. Any advice other than what has already been posted?
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It's under developer options settings. I have mine always active without draining my battery noticeable.
The social media apps such as snapchat, facebook, twitter, etc... are the ones draining your battery while your phone is idle so you need to disable their background data running.
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Where is the "cellular data always active" setting? I don't see it. Have not updated to run Oreo.
My battery was dropping from 95% to 5% overnight. Did a factory reset which helped, but I'm still losing 17-20% overnight. Seems odd to me on a brand new phone, but I have never owned an Android before. I have blocked notifications and location services from nearly all of my apps. Any advice other than what has already been posted?
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The option to Cellular Data Always Active is on the Developer Hidden Menu. If you have it enabled you should be able to turn it off.
Thanks to all for the replies. I thought that restoring factory settings had helped somewhat, but it turns out not to have. Battery has just depleted from 100% to 67% in 3 hours while the phone has sat idle.
The only social media apps I have installed are FB and Whatapp. Notifications for both are turned off. Location services for all apps are also off. The only apps I have installed have been download from the Play Store and have run on my previous phones without causing any trouble. Those who replied all suspect a bad app, so I have installed ACCU Battery as suggested to see if I can nail it down.
Thanks again for the responses.
Try this for one night. Right before bed....
1. Turn OFF WiFi
2. Reboot phone
3. Leave WiFi off after reboot
There is a bug in Google Play Services that affects many people on many different phone types since the November updates.
When on wifi, in certain circumstances (many theories on what the actually trigger is) it will cause Google Play Services to run non stop on certain WiFi networks causing huge battery drain.
In this particular scenario, turning off Wifi does not stop the battery drain. The phone has to be reboot.
I don't know if that is what you are experiencing, as you didn't say if it was an app or system taking so much battery, but I thought I would mention it in case it helps.
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Why don't you look in settings/battery and see what is using the highest percentage of the battery?
Have looked in Settings/Battery, but am not seeing anything there that diagnoses the problem to my understanding. Highest use shown is Chrome (4%), then Screen (4%) then Google Play services (3%). ACCU Battery app shows the same. Battery is still losing 10-12% of its charge per hour while the phone is idle.
Have sent a message to Essential support to ask if they know anything about a bug in Google Play services causing battery drain. They have so far only suggested rebooting to safe mode and doing the reset to factory settings. Hasn't helped.
Will try shutting wifi off, rebooting and leaving wifi off tonight as suggested. Not really sure where to go from there even if that does save the battery, as a phone that has its battery drained just by being on wifi is useless to me.
If turning off WiFi and rebooting helps reduce system cpu usage, it is a bug in the software and not the phone. I can reproduce that specific issue on my pixel 2 and Samsung Galaxy s8, too....
If the CPU usage isn't from system, though, or turning WiFi off and rebooting doesn't help then you obviously have a completely different issue and need to troubleshoot further.
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Update:. Nothing Essential support has suggested has helped. Battery is draining to zero overnight while phone is idle both when connected to wifi and when not.
Upon learning that I had purchased the phone at a Telus store in Canada, Essential have said that they can't help me further and have referred me to the store for assistance. I'm disappointed in the lack of support from Essential.
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Some of you may have noticed that battery life on this phone can be both unbelievable and mediocre. I've been trying to figure out what can trigger and cause mediocre performance and I'm at a loss. The problem is, there doesn't appear to be a smoking gun. No obvious wake locks. No rogue Apps. I have Carrier IQ disabled by System Tuner. Google Now is off. What I'm running right now is pretty bare bones. And the kicker is my phone is sleeping, as can be seen in the shots below. The vast majority of the time my phone was off the charger it was in deep sleep mode.
I noticed my phone in excessive drain mode Saturday so I let it run over night and into the next day, so that BBS and GSam could pick up as much data as possible, including sitting idle overnight and very little use throughout yesterday.
Here are some shots to show the story. The graph, which is definitely steeper than when idle drain is normal, which resulted in idle drain of about 6% per hour. Also as can be seen in these shots, there is not a wakelock problem. Deep sleep shows as 12 hours 38 minutes, Awake time of 1 hour 8 minutes, and screen on time of 1 hour. So, my phone was only "awake" for 8 minutes when the screen was off out of almost 14 hours according to BBS.
I did notice and oddity here though. BBS listed the unplugged status as 13 hours 47 minutes, while the phone's battery meter listed it at 12 hours 13 minutes.
Attached are the shots I took at 19%, as well as a final battery meter shot after charging the phone to full while powered off and restarting, where it's been purring like a kitten in deep sleep.
Part of me is beginning to believe there is a bug with the battery gauge. What do you guys think is going on?
Try clearing data for google play services,google services framework and playsore than reboot and check if things changed.
And i would recommend uninstall the updates related to those apps and let them update itself again.
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gm007 said:
Try clearing data for google play services,google services framework and playsore than reboot and check if things changed.
And i would recommend uninstall the updates related to those apps and let them update itself again.
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Done. Although I won't know if any attempts to resolve the issue have worked until the idle drain triggers again (or doesn't).
Thanks for the advice.
Well unfortunately that didn't solve the issue. The heavy deep sleep drain again triggered after a bit over one full day. I charged to full last night and let sit over night where it drained 6% per hour with no obvious culprit. Anyone else have any suggestions?
It seem that your signal is week, did you get stable signal and have you tried airplane mode, to find out how much battery drain in this mode?
Also, did you disable LG MLT? This is a massive app from LG, can consumed about 150 MB RAM.
This might sound boneheaded, but what about just resetting the phone. Maybe some system app is causing some type of memory leak and thus draining your battery. Also disable wifi when you're not using it.
I don't think it's signal related. I get an excellent signal at work and the idle drain still occurs. Also, it happens whether wifi is on or not. I have not disabled MLT, as I'm not concerned about RAM, just running processes. Rebooting the phone eliminates the issue, so something is obviously getting hung. The really odd thing is I was draining 6%/hr overnight, all while the phone was in deep sleep, yet my top battery consuming category was the screen at 35%, with just 1 hour of screen on time of 10 hours off the charger. If something was cranking in Android System that caused 40% drain overnight I would have expected Android System to be higher. It doesn't make any sense.
I may just have to factory reset.
My battery's been great until couple of days ago when I turned on GPS and Voice Notification (for speaking out names when phone call/message comes in). After I noticed the abnormal battery drain, I turned off those two options, because that's the only thing I did differently before noticing the drain. However, that didn't help... yet. I needed to do a reboot and battery's been fine again. Not sure if those two were the actual culprit, or just coincidence.
Have you changed any settings right before you noticed the drain? Just a thought.
had the same issue., wakelock detector, BBS, GSAM nothing could show what was eating the battery. i use mobile browsing a lot and almost 8/10 times this battery drain was happening with chrome , chrome beta and firefox browsers.
Only thing thats helping me is the Greenify app . Greenified the chrome and firefox and almost all the cloud apps and the battery is now much much better.
still ...IT IS AN PROBLEM to be found..
To provide a bit more info on this, attached is a pic of my reboot a couple hours ago (marked by the thin white vertical line). The change in the slope of the drainage line is drastic. Also, notice the small hump after the reboot? The line actually increased a bit, fell, then flat lined. More and more I'm beginning to suspect the battery gauge, but I just don't know.
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I have the same situation after charging. Even in"deep sleep" it would chew through the battery. Now I just reboot the phone after charging and it plays nice. The gerbil on the wheel seems to take a break and rest.
To all who have excessive battery drain, did you charge your phone while it is on or off?
Some where in this forum (if not mistaken), I read that there is a bug while charging G2 when it is on. You should reboot your phone after it is fully charged otherwise you will experience excessive battery drain.
Mine always charged it while it is off and never had problem with battery life.
i got the same issue which is very annoying, have over 85% deep sleep, no wake lock, battery draining like crazy, and it happens randomly. I wonder if factory rest fixes the problem, or hardware issue
i have done a bit testing for this random drain,
with mobile signal on ==> huge drain
without mobile signal on and only phone signal ==> huge drain
airplane mode ==> no drain
so i believe it is a bug within the phone software, actually sometimes the random drain started after a phone call
I've been getting the drain too in the past few days. Last time i could fix it by factory resetting, but obviously I don't feel like doing that once per month. What I do know is that flashing another stock ROM (kdz) without factory resetting doesn't fix it. However last night I figured i'd try disabling WiFi (kept it on during the night until now) and I only drained 1% in 5 hours, down from 3% per hour. Perhaps this bug is related to WiFi.
Have you disabled LG MLT? It acts like CIQ for internal LG purposes. I have personally seen it cause mass wakelock in unexplained situations. If I leave everything on overnight under 95% battery, I will get around a 3% drain in about 7 hours. Pretty normal. The first 5% on these batteries seem magical. At 100%, with everything on, I wake to 100%.
Yup, frozen in TiBu. Will be factory resetting however when I get home as GSAM grabbed my attention. Never were system things so high up the list when i had no drain.
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htcm7 said:
To all who have excessive battery drain, did you charge your phone while it is on or off?
Some where in this forum (if not mistaken), I read that there is a bug while charging G2 when it is on. You should reboot your phone after it is fully charged otherwise you will experience excessive battery drain.
Mine always charged it while it is off and never had problem with battery life.
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I been struggling with this since I got the phone (almost a month now). I've done all the usual:
Removing bloat
Disabled CIQ
Disabled Google Now, Location, GPS
and I have the same apps as my Nexus 5
Just last night I realized that this battery drain only happens after taking it off the charger. This got me to add the word "charging" in my search and I found this thread.
Is this hardware related, or would a custom ROM resolve this? I have the AT&T version.
Ok and which stock rom does not do that?
shilent said:
I been struggling with this since I got the phone (almost a month now). I've done all the usual:
Removing bloat
Disabled CIQ
Disabled Google Now, Location, GPS
and I have the same apps as my Nexus 5
Just last night I realized that this battery drain only happens after taking it off the charger. This got me to add the word "charging" in my search and I found this thread.
Is this hardware related, or would a custom ROM resolve this? I have the AT&T version.
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Probably this is a software issue. Never heard this problem on latest firmware or custom ROM.
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Probably this is a software issue. Never heard this problem on latest firmware or custom ROM.
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Guys could you write which stock rom does this wakelocks for you so we could eliminate corrupt firmwares?
For example I experience these wakelocks on latest F international version.
And there's nothing I can do about it. I only have a gear s2 connected at all times and wifi and mobile data off whenever possible. Before I leave to the gym battery is at 44%. After the car ride there it drops one percent. I unlock the phone, connect my powerbeats, and open youtube and there go another 5%. After a YouTube video there is 7% drain. About a 10 minute video too. Leaving the gym and hour later and I see a maybe 20% battery loss. I don't know how people with regular S7s get 4-5 hours SOT because I get only 3.5 maximum. I bought the edge looking for better battery life but it's practically no different than my S5. If anyone knows a magic trick to this, I need to know now because this is extremely annoying.
IF you got the device from an official retailer, just return and get a new replacement. Losing 7% watching a 10' video is not right even with max brightness. You can fix the standby drain by using Forcedoze (which helped reduce my standby drain by 50% to about 1% every 2 hours). 3.5 hours SOT is terrible even with max brightness. Just get a replacement please. It's not worth the time and frustration.
IF you don't have the option of getting a replacement. Forcedoze can help with the standby drain. Factory reset, set up normally (personally, I just turn off bluetooth NFC location and turn them on when needed), and hope that your terrible screen on time is software related.
konoi said:
IF you got the device from an official retailer, just return and get a new replacement. Losing 7% watching a 10' video is not right even with max brightness. You can fix the standby drain by using Forcedoze (which helped reduce my standby drain by 50% to about 1% every 2 hours). 3.5 hours SOT is terrible even with max brightness. Just get a replacement please. It's not worth the time and frustration.
IF you don't have the option of getting a replacement. Forcedoze can help with the standby drain. Factory reset, set up normally (personally, I just turn off bluetooth NFC location and turn them on when needed), and hope that your terrible screen on time is software related.
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Do you think it might be my location by any chance? Maybe the service in my area causes this drain. I also have gps on because of my gear s2 but I can turn that off and see what happens. GSAM tells me the in the past 30 minutes the drain rate is 15% per hour. I browsed the Internet a bit and have been using it the whole time. I'll try to also do a full battery drain test on geekbench with full brightness and see what it tells me.
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Do you think it might be my location by any chance? Maybe the service in my area causes this drain. I also have gps on because of my gear s2 but I can turn that off and see what happens. GSAM tells me the in the past 30 minutes the drain rate is 15% per hour. I browsed the Internet a bit and have been using it the whole time. I'll try to also do a full battery drain test on geekbench with full brightness and see what it tells me.
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It's a good possibility. I have a fairly weak signal where I am most of the day and only get about 4-5 hours of SOT. I have all radios off except WiFi and data when needed. Still with my usage I only charge every 2 to 3 days. I don't get the drain like you do from watching youtube though.
My battery life also sucks. I barely use my phone during the day and it almost dead when I go to sleep. Most of the day I am connected to wifi between my work or home. My old htc m8 one could last 40 hours. I think part of the problem is because I do not have root on this phone. I kind of regret switching because I cannot get root. I cannot use applications to adjust cpu or control my wifi, data and to turn off apps from starting automatically. I think tonight I am going to try and calibrate my battery.
I had horrible battery life after taking the 2 OTAs. BetterBatteryStats would not report the device going into deep sleep at all and I was losing about 10% per hour on standby. I did a Factory Data Reset and all the problems cleared away. BBS is reporting deep sleep after about 5 minutes of the display going dark. I have Wifi, data, Bluetooth, and high-accuracy Location services turned on at all times. I lose about 2.5% per hour now with AOD turned on on standby.
Guess my advice would be to due a FDR after every OTA....
Guys, I had terrible battery life when I first got the phone. Off the charger at 6am, under 20% by 5pm... Follow my steps below and I bet your battery will do a 180 and be very nice. Mine gets me 35-40+ hours on a charge.
Disable the bloat apps you don't want in app manager.
Turn off Google usage and diagnostics reporting for the Google app, and if you use the Google keyboard, there too. This and the next one were the biggest improvements by far.
Turn off Samsung "Send Security Reports," and in the same place, turn off auto-update Samsung security updates.
Turn off device/Bluetooth/WiFi scanning.
Set keep WiFi on during sleep to while charging.
In permissions, I turned off location for any app I didn't think needed it. I went from 30+ to about 15. If an app requires location to work, you will get a popup warning when disabling location for it.
Lastly, I did a Restrict Background Data on several apps I didn't think needed it.
My phone started dozing and the battery drain dropped way out.
I keep AOD and Bluetooth on at all times and connected to my smartwatch all day, and my car about an hours a day.
Hope this helps! Apparently out of the box the S7/Edge battery life is terrible...
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Guys, I had terrible battery life when I first got the phone. Off the charger at 6am, under 20% by 5pm... Follow my steps below and I bet your battery will do a 180 and be very nice. Mine gets me 35-40+ hours on a charge.
Disable the bloat apps you don't want in app manager.
Turn off Google usage and diagnostics reporting for the Google app, and if you use the Google keyboard, there too. This and the next one were the biggest improvements by far.
Turn off Samsung "Send Security Reports," and in the same place, turn off auto-update Samsung security updates.
Turn off device/Bluetooth/WiFi scanning.
Set keep WiFi on during sleep to while charging.
In permissions, I turned off location for any app I didn't think needed it. I went from 30+ to about 15. If an app requires location to work, you will get a popup warning when disabling location for it.
Lastly, I did a Restrict Background Data on several apps I didn't think needed it.
My phone started dozing and the battery drain dropped way out.
I keep AOD and Bluetooth on at all times and connected to my smartwatch all day, and my car about an hours a day.
Hope this helps! Apparently out of the box the S7/Edge battery life is terrible...
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I installed forcedoze and did the adb non-root command and now my phone's battery is holding up better. I think the phone was just sleeping.
It's ridiculous one has to do all this to get closer to acceptable battery life.
Google and SEC should be ashamed of themselves!
It's not just VZW devices either. AT&T are just as bad.
I've given up on trying to get acceptable standby drain and just let the device live on a wireless charger.
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I had horrible battery life after taking the 2 OTAs. BetterBatteryStats would not report the device going into deep sleep at all and I was losing about 10% per hour on standby. I did a Factory Data Reset and all the problems cleared away. BBS is reporting deep sleep after about 5 minutes of the display going dark. I have Wifi, data, Bluetooth, and high-accuracy Location services turned on at all times. I lose about 2.5% per hour now with AOD turned on on standby.
Guess my advice would be to due a FDR after every OTA....
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You need to turn off all radios when you go to sleep for the device to enter deep sleep. I had the same problem and when I started turning off wifi and mobile data for the night GSAM reported deep sleep and I was only losing 3% per night.
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You need to turn off all radios when you go to sleep for the device to enter deep sleep. I had the same problem and when I started turning off wifi and mobile data for the night GSAM reported deep sleep and I was only losing 3% per night.
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I keep all my radios on (BT, LTE, and WiFi) and BBS and GSAM Pro all report that my phone goes into Deep Sleep.
What runs under "Phone Idle" on the V20. It's been the largest battery consumer for the last week of use that I've noticed. My wife's V20 is the same and I had my brother check his and his wife's V20.
I'm only asking because I'm not see great battery life like other have been reporting. I don't have live wallpaper, have only two widgets on the home screen. GPS is set to battery save, screen is set to auto but that doesn't even come close to chewing up the battery.
Sadly I feel like I'm still using my old 2.5 year G3 where it'll need a charge mid way through the day.
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What runs under "Phone Idle" on the V20. It's been the largest battery consumer for the last week of use that I've noticed. My wife's V20 is the same and I had my brother check his and his wife's V20.
I'm only asking because I'm not see great battery life like other have been reporting. I don't have live wallpaper, have only two widgets on the home screen. GPS is set to battery save, screen is set to auto but that doesn't even come close to chewing up the battery.
Sadly I feel like I'm still using my old 2.5 year G3 where it'll need a charge mid way through the day.
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Factory reset it
czerdrill said:
Factory reset it
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Really??
Pretty sad that needs to be done on a week old phone with minimal apps. I'm not even a heavy user.
I feel like I'm back on my old DroidX days where everything was a factory reset but never helped...
VDoubleUVR6 said:
Really??
Pretty sad that needs to be done on a week old phone with minimal apps. I'm not even a heavy user.
I feel like I'm back on my old DroidX days where everything was a factory reset but never helped...
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I agree with you. Although my phone is just beyond a week old and does have all my apps installed, a factory reset can't be the solution here. This is the typical "I don't know how to fix this" answer always given by manufacturers and carriers.
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In the roughly 3 weeks I've had my V20 I've only seen this once where phone idle was higher than Screen. I started looking thru all running apps for 'keep awake' time being high and noticed Android OS had keep awake of over 2 hours when it's normally less than an hour after a full day use. I power cycled the phone and it stopped.
The weird thing was Android OS didn't show high battery usage even though something was triggering keep awake. Looks like the keep awake was causing phone idle to be high.
I'd look at everything in your battery usage to see if you have any high keep awake times.
VDoubleUVR6 said:
Really??
Pretty sad that needs to be done on a week old phone with minimal apps. I'm not even a heavy user.
I feel like I'm back on my old DroidX days where everything was a factory reset but never helped...
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Sorry did not mean to be short in my response. When you set up your phone did you restore it from another phone using the nfc bump thing? I did the same and my phone battery was the same way. Wouldn't last even half a day. After i factory reset and set everything up manually i get 18+ hrs with 7 hrs screen on time sometimes.
If this situation doesn't apply to you then maybe a reset won't help. But you have to understand your situation isn't normal.
Make sure Google now features are all turned off and not running in the background.
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In the roughly 3 weeks I've had my V20 I've only seen this once where phone idle was higher than Screen. I started looking thru all running apps for 'keep awake' time being high and noticed Android OS had keep awake of over 2 hours when it's normally less than an hour after a full day use. I power cycled the phone and it stopped.
The weird thing was Android OS didn't show high battery usage even though something was triggering keep awake. Looks like the keep awake was causing phone idle to be high.
I'd look at everything in your battery usage to see if you have any high keep awake times.
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I'll have to go through the apps one by one like I did previously on my G3 and see. Now within the battery stats there is only a handful of apps like hangout, play music, chrome and camera. The rest is OS related so that's why I was curious what ran under Phone Idle.
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Sorry did not mean to be short in my response. When you set up your phone did you restore it from another phone using the nfc bump thing? I did the same and my phone battery was the same way. Wouldn't last even half a day. After i factory reset and set everything up manually i get 18+ hrs with 7 hrs screen on time sometimes.
If this situation doesn't apply to you then maybe a reset won't help. But you have to understand your situation isn't normal.
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No and sadly I was looking for that feature a week ago but couldn't find it so I had to individually install most of my apps I had on my previous phone...made for a long night along with the additional emails and configuration or icons and such.
I'll keep digging away at the phone...I really want to like this phone ?
Has there been a definitive resolution to "phone idle" battery drain? I just got a V20 2 weeks ago on sale for $360 and its a fantastic upgrade over the One+1 I've been rockin all these years, but I'm also suffering from mediocre life due to whatever phone idle is. Some forums (for other phones) say phone idle is related to your wireless signal. I'm still with the same carrier and frequenting the same locations and had no such battery drain with that old One+.
i finally discovered whats was goin on with me..
i had the same issue..
phone idle was topping my battery usage list
it turns google plays have this "locationmanager service " and locationwhatever" that kills your battery over wifi even with location button off
Go to locations/ 3 dots in top right corner/ turn off WiFi scan. See if that helps.
My phone has been suffering from poor battery life for quite some time now, here are the screenshots, Android OS has been this high on almost all battery cycles.
I disabled wifi scanning as suggested above and will watch the performance, does the community have any other inputs to fix this? View attachment 4212978View attachment 4212979
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Phone idle is always the biggest battery draw on my phone too. I have minimal apps too. No Facebook or similar types of apps. I'm on a Verizon V20 stock with the latest security update. Is this normal V20 behavior to have phone idle consume more battery than everything else?
how about doze mode , isnt that meant to help with this sort of problem ? ( my phone is currently on a ship )
Any update. İ have the same problem
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i finally discovered whats was goin on with me..
i had the same issue..
phone idle was topping my battery usage list
it turns google plays have this "locationmanager service " and locationwhatever" that kills your battery over wifi even with location button off
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So what did you do?
Would also be grateful if anyone shared a solution.
I specifically have a SIM-unlocked Sprint model (LS997) which am using in Europe with another carrier.
Using it in LTE preferred mode drains about 10-15% overnight.
Using it in WCDMA preferred mode drains up to 5% per night (yes, wifi and cellular data OFF and many apps greenified) . So I'm really interested in how this can be fixed and achieve 0% battery drain across several hours.
Or maybe it's SIM-unlocked Sprint ROM related?? I can't root my phone since it has the Feb 2017 patch and is a ZV6.
I suspect rooting it and using another ROM would solve this + the annoying issue of not being able to send images via FB Messenger and Viber while on cellular data (I imagine the Sprint guys placed some kind of restriction to deny media transfer for these apps when using cellular data).
I have noticed this too.. wondered why "phone idle" takes most battery... any suggestions would be great!
I am also curious about the solution. Phone Idle is at top. Even without SIM card. 30% drains during a night (everything is disabled, but no airplane mode is on). I tried factory reset, reinstall older ROM, replace battery, use no app but still sucks.
hi
my v20 phone battery draining was about 1% per hour before (about 7% totally ) and recently increased to 2% during sleeping time overnight. (draining 15% overnight in sleeping state)
it seems that during day either performance off battery is decreased.(about 5h with wifi and screen on usage)
Fast charging while second screen is On , is slower than when it is off therefore when second screen is Off , fast charging goes better . exactly , first 30 mins fast charging makes about 40% battery charge(instead of 50%) and after 60 min leads to 85% and full charging taking place after about 100 min instead of 80 mins.
another important thing is that sometimes shades have been seen on the LCD that many users have complained about it.
phone information is :
Android security patch level: September 1, 2017
BASEBAND : MPSS.TH.2.0.1.c3-00045-M8996FAAAANAZM-1
KERNEL : 3.18.31
BUILD NUMBER : NRD90M
SOFTWARE VERSION : V10g-AME-XX
MODEL NUMBER : LG-H990ds
my actions are as follows :
phone is factory reseted. No third party apps is installed. [especially social media apps.]
battery calibration steps for not rooted phones is taken place.(turning off the phone and charging several times repeatedly).
testing battery drain in safe mode in done and didn't change results
turn off location services and location scanning for WiFi and Bluetooth scanning
turn off WiFi being On during screen is Off.
turn off auto sync, NFC, GPS etc.
not using auto brightness.
not using comfort view .
turn off location services and location scanning for WiFi and Bluetooth scanning
second screen is off during test overnight. (either with second screen is ON with faced down to lower brightness in other day test )
phone is in Air Plane Mode and all data services is off.
system apps like Google services and Play and Assistance is limited by permissions.
following are some advanced battery drain overnight figures of my phone for more analyzing.
any help with this issue is appreciated.
I have SM-G950U and the battery is draining faster than it should, I got 68% charge but after 2 hours on standy and it's on power saving mode, I got 10% drain without doing anything. Does anybody knows what's happening?
10/19
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Before I went to bed last night, I flashed the XAA firmware and installed the gsam battery monitor, right now, I'm monitoring the battery performance and how long it takes to fully drain the battery
ajemnace said:
I have SM-G950U and the battery is draining faster than it should, I got 68% charge but after 2 hours on standy and it's on power saving mode, I got 10% drain without doing anything. Does anybody knows what's happening?
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Give GSam Battery Monitor from Playstore a go. It can give you an overview of whats using your juice.
Alternatively you can use Better BatteryStats: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
If you are rooted just install the XDAedition from post #2
If not rooted then follow instructions in post #4
Definitely some rogue app running in the background...
As mentioned above, use an app to monitor your battery. But I would also suggest installing an app to monitor your data usage, because sometimes your connections and data transfers are the culprits in battery drain.
Let us know what is the cause of this issue
RossTeagan said:
As mentioned above, use an app to monitor your battery. But I would also suggest installing an app to monitor your data usage, because sometimes your connections and data transfers are the culprits in battery drain.
Let us know what is the cause of this issue
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Ok, so I've been observing my battery for over 2 days now, and it seems that the problem is my cellular connection. I took the sim card out and noticed that the battery hasn't drained for several hours. But I wonder why my galaxy s8 is having this problem, the sim card I'm using on my galaxy s8 is the one that I've been using on my galaxy s7 for the past several months and I didn't experienced the same problem on my galaxy s8
Is your network signal weak?
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Ok, so I've been observing my battery for over 2 days now, and it seems that the problem is my cellular connection. I took the sim card out and noticed that the battery hasn't drained for several hours.
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This is a strange issue because usually battery drainage happens because of background updates and data transfer of certain apps.
Can you try turning off your mobile data connection and see if the drainage persists? You need to isolate the issue in order to identify it
can confirm that switching data to 2G network vs 3G/LTE has drastically improved my standby time, massively, especially if there is no 3g/LTE in the area, the phone hunts continually for 3G/LTE thus draining battery, but after switching to 2G no problems, just means that internet is damn slow...
You can try hibernating apps that you rarely use. Also, phones tend to seek LTE; if it happens to be that you are in an area with bad carrier coverage, turn off your LTE.
On the other hand, try to uninstall unused apps and turn off Always on Display.
edit: also, check the battery usage of your apps. In my case, Facebook, Tinder (lol), Spotify, Messenger, and Snapchat are the apps that consume my battery a lot. Device Maintenance usually prompts me that about an app excessively using the battery. Nevertheless, hibernating apps would definitely help.
ajemnace said:
I have SM-G950U and the battery is draining faster than it should, I got 68% charge but after 2 hours on standy and it's on power saving mode, I got 10% drain without doing anything. Does anybody knows what's happening?
10/19
-----UPDATE-----
Before I went to bed last night, I flashed the XAA firmware and installed the gsam battery monitor, right now, I'm monitoring the battery performance and how long it takes to fully drain the battery
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xRuisuCepi said:
You can try hibernating apps that you rarely use. Also, phones tend to seek LTE; if it happens to be that you are in an area with bad carrier coverage, turn off your LTE.
On the other hand, try to uninstall unused apps and turn off Always on Display.
edit: also, check the battery usage of your apps. In my case, Facebook, Tinder (lol), Spotify, Messenger, and Snapchat are the apps that consume my battery a lot. Device Maintenance usually prompts me that about an app excessively using the battery. Nevertheless, hibernating apps would definitely help.
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Do you know if the device would still be searching for LTE constantly if Wifi is connected? I'm just curious, I live in an apartment that has almost 0 data, and phones tend to pick and choose whether they want to be on 3G or LTE here. Definitely would be a drain, but I don't know if it matters if I'm on my wifi network..
baste07 said:
Is your network signal weak?
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No, I do have a very strong signal in my area. I'm getting an average download speed at 50mpbs and download speeds at 10mbps
xRuisuCepi said:
You can try hibernating apps that you rarely use. Also, phones tend to seek LTE; if it happens to be that you are in an area with bad carrier coverage, turn off your LTE.
On the other hand, try to uninstall unused apps and turn off Always on Display.
edit: also, check the battery usage of your apps. In my case, Facebook, Tinder (lol), Spotify, Messenger, and Snapchat are the apps that consume my battery a lot. Device Maintenance usually prompts me that about an app excessively using the battery. Nevertheless, hibernating apps would definitely help.
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I did a factory reset on my phone and let it just sit for the whole night. I left it with it a 100% charge and after 6 hours, it drained 20% of my battery
Jostian said:
can confirm that switching data to 2G network vs 3G/LTE has drastically improved my standby time, massively, especially if there is no 3g/LTE in the area, the phone hunts continually for 3G/LTE thus draining battery, but after switching to 2G no problems, just means that internet is damn slow...
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My carrier doesn't support 2g anymore. Also, switching to 3g still doesn't stop the battery drain
RossTeagan said:
This is a strange issue because usually battery drainage happens because of background updates and data transfer of certain apps.
Can you try turning off your mobile data connection and see if the drainage persists? You need to isolate the issue in order to identify it
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I turned my mobile date off and still got battery drain, and maybe a lot worst this time. I got 3% drainage for about 30 mins of standby. I have my wifi turned off
ajemnace said:
I turned my mobile date off and still got battery drain, and maybe a lot worst this time. I got 3% drainage for about 30 mins of standby. I have my wifi turned off
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Try to install a data manager/tracking app and another battery tracking app and see if you can get any tangible stats out of those.:fingers-crossed:
I think this may be my problem
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...950u1-sm-g950w-samsung-dream/ntt-docomo-japan
I don't know, I just found this website and found out that there are just few LTE/3G bands that my phone supports, could this be the reason why? anyone?
My usage for the last 2 days until I decided to put a SIM card and enable data
Wow, this thing's battery is inconsistent. Good one day, bad the next. Within 2h 26m, my phone dropped 12% with only 27:38 screen on time. I listened to maybe 4-5 songs in Google Play Music.
Anyone know why Samsung DeX Home would be taking up so much space, and why playing only a few songs *that have been downloaded* is causing a decent drain through GPM?
Not sure what the deal is with Android System Kernel, but it looks like the wakelock is from audioserver.
My S8+ battery performance was not very good since I started using the phone. Installed GSAM and granted it the needed permission via ADB. Recently battery drain has been terrible because mainly of Google Play services as well as FB. Battery only lasted for barely the whole day and sometimes I had to recharge during the evening.
After a lot of search and trial and error including disabling all Bloat ware apps using BK Disabler (as per a post at the beginning of this thread) and which caused more problems actually, I re-enabled all apps again. I installed Greenify with Agressive Doze enabled and Greenifying system apps enabled, but that didn't help either.
Finally, that's what I did and which gave me for the first day since I used the phone 4h15m of SOT and still 54% of my battery remaining!
1- Apps installed: Greenify, BK Disabler (with plug-in), GSAM and Play Services Info.
2- with BK Disabler I disabled all FB related apps (Facebook, FB App Installer, FB App Manager and FB services) and installed instead any 3rd party app like FB Lite, Swift FB, Metal or Friendly.
3- Disabled FB Messenger and installed Messenger Lite.
4- In Greenify, I disabled Agressive Doze and Greenify system apps.
5- I installed the latest Google Play Services Beta app version 12.2.09.
6- I am using Power Saving mode with FHD+ but will try tomorrow without it.
The battery drain was dramatically decreased knowing that I am using 3 email accounts (Gmail, Hotmail and Good for Enterprise), LinkedIn, Instagram, 2 What's app accounts via Parallel Space, Swift FB, Messenger Lite, Telegram as well a bunch of other apps. I am usually using 4G and Wi-Fi while at home with a lot of FB and web browsing.
Hope this post shed some light and help on battery drain issue with the S8+.
Ciao
Note: I had 8+ hours SOT yesterday!!
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Hello all,
So I know there's various discussions all over the web about the Galaxy s10 and battery issues on both Snapdragon and Exynos variants. It seems people are experiencing a wide margin of difference in avg battery life..
So here's my situation. My wife and I both have S10+'s through AT&T. We got them the first week they came out. I looked though the forums and performed several battery optimization tweaks on both phones and since then the battery life has been really impressive... No complaints really. Until this last week.
We both recieved the March security patch and fingerprint scanner fix about a week ago. My wife's phone seems unchanged by this. Everything working as expected. My phone however has been draining battery MUCH faster both in SOT and standby time. I'm losing 2-3x more battery % overnight. In the last 20 mins of just reading through threads on the XDA forum app, I've lost about 10% battery. I'm sitting in the dark with my screen brightness very low too. (down another 5% since I started typing this!)
My wife and I have very similar phone habits. Since both our phones are optimized identically, and we used most of the same apps a play the same games, I started looking through everything different I've done in my phone since this problem started. I installed Adhell3, which seems to be setup properly and working. Mike B. from Adhell's Discord assured me that Adhell shouldn't be draining my battery. I'm mostly using it just to remove a bunch of basic bloatware and block some ads.
The update seems to have worked fine otherwise. My FP scanner is much better now, but something is definitely wrong. I've tried wiping the partition cache afterwards. I've tracked down others experiencing issues after this particular update, but cant seem to find a way to fix this problem yet. I saw something about Deep Sleep problems after the update when someone uses a VOIP service like Skype or WhatsApp, but I dont use anything like that. I can't even find a good tool to use to see more information about my battery usage, as the built-in battery monitor lacks a good deal of information. CPUspy doesn't work on my version.
If anyone has any ideas of what could be the culprit, what else I could try, or what tools I could use to try and track down what exactly is causing this sudden increase in drain, I'd really appreciate it.
Which update do you have ASBA or ASCA? This is rather weird, Battery drain can also come from restoring from backups. I lose 2% every night and my phone is on airplane mode, not connected to anything except location. I do not have adhell, and last time I tested before the fingerprint update I had 10h SoT on wifi purely. When I got the new fingerprint update I checked if the phone went to deep sleep and it does, so I really do not know what might be your issue. I have an exynos variant btw. Also I charge my phone constantly from 80 I let it drop to 40 and charge it back, I do not use fast charging options. Since unplugging my phone now on LTE fully I have lost 1% in 30 min, I have my fitbit always connected, location on, max resolution, I have a semi black wallpaper and brightness around 40-50%.
I will see today how much SoT I can get from 80% part wifi, part LTE, I will update.
clear cache helped a lot of people
Update 1
Reset all phone settings to factory. Don't do full factory reset, just all the settings, fixed my post update battery drain issues
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Update 2
Hrrm. It seems I don't have ASBA or ASCA, I have ASD3. The March update.
I'm really hoping I don't end up having to factory reset and manually install everything... Because I did do a restore from backup with AT&T Transfer, because it seemed really convenient and time saving. I had no idea that so many people have had issues with restoring from various back up services (AT&T, Samsung, Google etc.)
I did the same restore from backup on my wife's S10+ too and she's had no problems. Her battery life is phenomenal. My battery issues only started after this last update.
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I'm really hoping I don't end up having to factory reset and manually install everything... Because I did do a restore from backup with AT&T Transfer, because it seemed really convenient and time saving. I had no idea that so many people have had issues with restoring from various back up services (AT&T, Samsung, Google etc.)
I did the same restore from backup on my wife's S10+ too and she's had no problems. Her battery life is phenomenal. My battery issues only started after this last update.
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Well that seems rather strange to be honest, you can eliminate possibilities by just testing and see what works. Last possibility can be that factory resetting and installing all new, but then again, it could be that it solves your issues or not. You should be having rather horizontal lines to prove your phone is truly going into deep sleep in my opinion, but also you can check with CPU Spy
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Try to log too safe mode and check the battery drain
If stopped then it was from an application that have a problem
If not I think it might be a system app or something
So. I'm starting to think that some of my problem has to do with wakelocks. Unfortunately I have limited access to wakelocks statistics since my phone is unrooted. However. Last night I fully charged my phone right before bed and then took it off the charger to see how much it would lose overnight. It dropped a whopping 10% vs the 1-2% it used to.
I looked through some of the battery info and noticed several apps running in the background for very long periods of time since last night. Chrome(2hrs) , Discord(2hrs), Google Play Services(a whopping 13hrs 30mins running in background) and Google Play store (5hrs)
Somehow Discord was responsible for draining 7.6% battery in that time!
So, could this be a wakelock issue causing my phone to lose so much battery overnight? I know that's only half the problem, because I'm also experiencing higher drain than usual while using certain apps too. But I'm trying to figure out one thing at time.
SinisterDev said:
So. I'm starting to think that some of my problem has to do with wakelocks. Unfortunately I have limited access to wakelocks statistics since my phone is unrooted. However. Last night I fully charged my phone right before bed and then took it off the charger to see how much it would lose overnight. It dropped a whopping 10% vs the 1-2% it used to.
I looked through some of the battery info and noticed several apps running in the background for very long periods of time since last night. Chrome(2hrs) , Discord(2hrs), Google Play Services(a whopping 13hrs 30mins running in background) and Google Play store (5hrs)
Somehow Discord was responsible for draining 7.6% battery in that time!
So, could this be a wakelock issue causing my phone to lose so much battery overnight? I know that's only half the problem, because I'm also experiencing higher drain than usual while using certain apps too. But I'm trying to figure out one thing at time.
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You can look at this thread and see if you can install the app without being root or not
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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Which update do you have ASBA or ASCA? This is rather weird, Battery drain can also come from restoring from backups. I lose 2% every night and my phone is on airplane mode, not connected to anything except location. I do not have adhell, and last time I tested before the fingerprint update I had 10h SoT on wifi purely. When I got the new fingerprint update I checked if the phone went to deep sleep and it does, so I really do not know what might be your issue. I have an exynos variant btw. Also I charge my phone constantly from 80 I let it drop to 40 and charge it back, I do not use fast charging options. Since unplugging my phone now on LTE fully I have lost 1% in 30 min, I have my fitbit always connected, location on, max resolution, I have a semi black wallpaper and brightness around 40-50%.
I will see today how much SoT I can get from 80% part wifi, part LTE, I will update.
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10 sot？！？！？you sure about it?!?whatever I try I always only have 7 something sot,how can you make it 10?!?
paullu said:
10 sot？！？！？you sure about it?!?whatever I try I always only have 7 something sot,how can you make it 10?!?
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I have done it before, I can look for the image, if you would like. That was a full day of wifi actually.
paullu said:
10 sot？！？！？you sure about it?!?whatever I try I always only have 7 something sot,how can you make it 10?!?
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Here is the pic
Also you can look at this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/how-to/official-exynos-battery-life-thread-t3917814/page7
You have it good compared with me I get background drain on all apps and I have all apps set not to run in the background
da1e8 said:
You have it good compared with me I get background drain on all apps and I have all apps set not to run in the background
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You just need to tweak your settings more, put which apps do not run on the background or go to sleep, how many days you need to wait to put unused apps to sleep. Is all tweaking the settings.
aromerodaniel said:
You just need to tweak your settings more, put which apps do not run on the background or go to sleep, how many days you need to wait to put unused apps to sleep. Is all tweaking the settings.
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I've put all apps to sleep and they still register as been used
da1e8 said:
I've put all apps to sleep and they still register as been used
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Then I don't what you can do, either do a factory reset and so not restore anything from backups and see if that works. I usually set my phone that way, clean no restoration from any backup all apps are installed manually, and I do not even use adhell to disable most of Samsung crap apps and services.