Improvement in the iris sensor in Oreo! Anyone noticed? - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

Improvement in the iris sensor in Oreo! Anyone noticed? - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

I am amazed how accurate the improved iris sensor in Oreo! I use rigid contact lenses and until the moment 100% of use!

yes and it's got a alot of improvement in the dark!

I still have delayed response. I have to hold the phone higher and wide open my eyes, maybe because i am using glasses. It might have improved from Nougat, but face recognition is blazing fast for me. It works mostly at night, even at certain angles.

Yes, its faster

Akram. said:
I still have delayed response. I have to hold the phone higher and wide open my eyes, maybe because i am using glasses. It might have improved from Nougat, but face recognition is blazing fast for me. It works mostly at night, even at certain angles.
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For me face recognition is very slow. every time I have to lift it and look at it for some time.
where my frd has 1+5T it has blazing fast face unlock.
even in LG v30 user dont have to wake the device whenever you lift the phone towards face it just unlocks.. faster than S8 fingerprint.
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May be I had my previous face data.. Now it works way better than N. but still little bit slow

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Z5C common issues

so guys i`m an owner of z3c a great phone but lacks the build quality and terrible camera...since i broke the screen i`m planing to jump to
samsung galaxy s6 its a premium tbh but i hate samsung.......or z5c both are same price to me....
so i`ve been following the post of Z5c on sony.talk.....and the amount of defected units is way too high..... them blurry images and rarely dead pixles but its more like 7 out of 10 with defected lens .....is it worth it to take the risk and get the z5c? or is there any more bugs found on this phone hope we can discuss it here even though i dont believe the camera is that great even if the phone is not defected

I'll just post my issues with the Z5 Compact:
- Auto-brightness is broken, unlocking the phone with enabled auto-brightness results in a bright display for a couple of seconds --> Sony said that it'll be fixed in the upcoming Marshmallow update
- Lags and inconsistent performance, disabling X-Reality helped a bit. It just doesn't feel like a fast phone, my old HTC One M8 was flying through the system. My brother has a Nexus 6p with the same processor and it feels much smoother, we compared them side by side (opening apps, loading websites).
- Music and Podcasts from different apps (Spotify, Shuttle+, Pocketcasts) are pausing every now and then (already repaired the phone with PC companion and did a manual factory reset, reformatted my external SD card)
- slow camera launch
- it takes a while to look at a taken picture
- active mobile radio bug --> will be fixed in the upcoming Marshmallow update, other Marshmallow phones confirmed that
- slow connection to wifi networks (exclamation mark in the statusbar)
- many bloatware apps from Sony (luckily they can be disabled)
Overall im quite disappointed by this phone because of its lackluster firmware performance. I'm hoping Marshmallow fixes the most annoxing bugs (broken auto-brightness is a pain), if not I'm selling it. I like the slim UI, the design of this phone and the camera. My photos are thankfully not blurred.

I've got Z1c, Z5c and S6. If you love small size, Z5c is the only option. The current problem is software not mature, not to the level you can't real use it as a daily driver but enough to annoy you. We are waiting for MM to fix. Me and my friend both owned Z5c and our lens no blur.
S6 two big issues, other than that it's good. First is poor memory management during heavy multi-tasking(light use okay) and second thing is bad color reproduction(over saturation and too much contrast, auto exposure isn't as accurate) compared to Z1c/Z5c. But I know Z3c white balance is quite buggy even worse than Z1/Z2 line.
I always take photo so camera is most important to me and I tend to stick with Z1c/Z5c and going to sell out my S6 soon. But S6 camera is extremely quick and OIS is useful, for the point and shoot purpose no doubt better than Sony but I just can't use it to shoot out any decent photo though S6 camera got little more details but color is too wrong. Casual user may more welcome S6 camera bcoz they just want speedy.
The current problem on Z5 camera is high ISO bad and 4K focus/quality at low-light even worse than my Z1c. But the focus is decent, slightly slower than S6 but blows Z1c/Z3c. Color and exposure is improved too, I'll say the best I've ever seen. However, if the upcoming MM not fix all issues, I'm thinking to stick with Z1c for a little bit more time and wait Z6c/Z7c.

To be honest I expected the z5c to suck when I bought it.
Marshmallow wasn't out yet and to me, it looks like the best strategy for sony would be to release ****ty software because MM update would come soon anyway.
Unfortunately, I'm very dissapointed, I agree that the phone is laggy and tend to get way too hot. Batterylife is worse than Z3C. (I could easily last two days, one day is even an issue on this phone) The MM update should have hit the Z5 family end December at latest.
I still have hopes for MM, if you could wait three weeks I would, let's see how it works out. (but somewhere it already feels like I'm going to get dissapointed, I had such high hopes for Sony but I feel betrayed by them)

30min Wifi Skype call, temperature reached: 50°C.
So consider also that in some situations the phone overheats easily

Wait to see if mm fixes the problems. I went from z3c to z5c. Not very happy. So my tip is to wait for some weeks

KingKonga said:
I'll just post my issues with the Z5 Compact:
- Auto-brightness is broken, unlocking the phone with enabled auto-brightness results in a bright display for a couple of seconds --> Sony said that it'll be fixed in the upcoming Marshmallow update
- Lags and inconsistent performance, disabling X-Reality helped a bit. It just doesn't feel like a fast phone, my old HTC One M8 was flying through the system. My brother has a Nexus 6p with the same processor and it feels much smoother, we compared them side by side (opening apps, loading websites).
- Music and Podcasts from different apps (Spotify, Shuttle+, Pocketcasts) are pausing every now and then (already repaired the phone with PC companion and did a manual factory reset, reformatted my external SD card)
- slow camera launch
- it takes a while to look at a taken picture
- active mobile radio bug --> will be fixed in the upcoming Marshmallow update, other Marshmallow phones confirmed that
- slow connection to wifi networks (exclamation mark in the statusbar)
- many bloatware apps from Sony (luckily they can be disabled)
Overall im quite disappointed by this phone because of its lackluster firmware performance. I'm hoping Marshmallow fixes the most annoxing bugs (broken auto-brightness is a pain), if not I'm selling it. I like the slim UI, the design of this phone and the camera. My photos are thankfully not blurred.
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From reading the forums it seems to me that the quality of the z5c handsets Sony has put out is pretty uneven, from poor quality control, different build lines, different rev versions or...?
I'm overall happy, no issues of lags, reboots or the like.
Keep mobile data off almost always so not affected by active mobile radio bug, which is really an Android issue more than a Sony issue if I understand it correctly.
No issues with music or podcasts, listen to pods a lot.
No issues with overheating, it does get quite warm occasionally with heavy use but nothing really bothersome. (I don't play games or shoot video.)
Generally happy with camera, no blur issues, no slow launch issues, though watching pictures/launching album from within camera is really slow. I'm not a keen photographer or a very exigent user of the camera, understand from others there are issues of software limiting the hardware. Definitely could do better in low light.
Agree on the bloatware, have disabled most and wish more was possible. Then again, compared to Samsung or most other manufacturers...
So the issues I have are:
- auto brightness bug, common to all z5 and acknowledged by Sony a long time ago. Disappointing it takes months to issue an upgrade or patch.
- wifi management is confusing. Without Stamina mode wifi keeps turning off in standby/sleep, though I have it set to always keep on. With Stamina mode it stays conected?? Seems counterintuitive. Also occasionally it keeps turning off even then, can't understand why?
- I want to keep wifi always on when connected to a known network, off when no network. Previously Sony had a bundled app, Location based wifi, which took care of it and worked really well. Disappointed they no longer include it, after trying several third party apps I believe I have found one that works.
- battery capacity is ok, not great, but only(?) without mobile data on. Regularly get 6+ hours on screen time which isn't bad, more would be better.
- finger print sensor works poorly and irregularly. Apart from not working if fingers are dirty or damp, which is ok and expected, it works poorly in general. I have five fingers saved, it works well with one of them in certain angles, less so with another finger and very poorly on others. Frustratingly, when I press lock key only to look at time without wanting to unlock it often does just that, more frequently than when i do want to unlock.
Size, ergonomics, hardware quality, waterproof certifications - I'm real happy and see few if any competitors on the market. Software could be better and updates much more frequent, but apart from above mentioned issues my phone is quick and snappy, no lags. Pleased with the general UI, but wish more customization was possible and more bloatware was optional or uninstallable.

Regarding poor performance of fingerprint sensor it seems, thanks to michal89chz, that I have found a solution. I had tried to re-register fingerprints before without seeing much of a difference. It seems that registering a fingerprint in all kinds of different angles greatly improves the performance of the sensor, now hit rate has gone up from 4/10 to 9/10. If it keeps up take that off the list of complaints. Though Sony ought to have made it clear in the settings when you first register your prints that this procedure is necessary for a good performance.

Heres my take.
The camera is better than z3c when ready but takes so long to launch that the moment is usually gone long before the phone is ready.
Oh and from time to time the camera won't launch because according to the error message some other app is using it. I've only been able to solve that issue by rebooting adding insult to injury for the already ridiculous camera launch times.
Thats really the only advantage.
It gets way hotter and lags like crazy seemingly at random.
My guess is that Snapdragon 810 is just a piece of **** and I hope Sony makes a z6c with 820 which i will happily buy..
I'm so frustrated that Samsung S7 starts to look good but it's bigger than the HTC One m7 and I found that too big

FlipFlopHHJ said:
Heres my take.
The camera is better than z3c when ready but takes so long to launch that the moment is usually gone long before the phone is ready.
Oh and from time to time the camera won't launch because according to the error message some other app is using it. I've only been able to solve that issue by rebooting adding insult to injury for the already ridiculous camera launch times.
Thats really the only advantage.
It gets way hotter and lags like crazy seemingly at random.
My guess is that Snapdragon 810 is just a piece of **** and I hope Sony makes a z6c with 820 which i will happily buy..
I'm so frustrated that Samsung S7 starts to look good but it's bigger than the HTC One m7 and I found that too big
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Try Xperia X Performance

About that auto brightness bug, you guys could try Velis Auto Brightness app from Play Store, works great for me.

- Auto Brightness bug here. (I can't believe I'm using Manual Brightness in a 2015 hi-end phone).
- Poor picture quality with the camera with low or medium light and with close/mid pictures, specially close-ups. (In general, the camera is terrible is the worst thing of this phone, the main reason I can't wait to upgrade the phone. Never used flash in two years with my previous phone with HDR+, now I need flash again to see some details at MEDIUM light!!).
- Performance issues, mainly because of Lollipop. But also they'll need to improve the kernel.
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I do not have any reboots issues, nor temperature problems.

thanks a lot everyone on your replies i`v read it carefully thanks for helping me to decide <3
after today MWC and the the release of X series and the overpriced phones i think its time to step aside from sony but my heart will always be there Thanks for sharing your experience and being 100% honest
i`ll wait till M.M but its also gonna take few weeks according to sony statement today then i`ll come back here and check your feedback it will help everyone

Tinup93 said:
thanks a lot everyone on your replies i`v read it carefully thanks for helping me to decide <3
after today MWC and the the release of X series and the overpriced phones i think its time to step aside from sony but my heart will always be there Thanks for sharing your experience and being 100% honest
i`ll wait till M.M but its also gonna take few weeks according to sony statement today then i`ll come back here and check your feedback it will help everyone
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if you are going for a Galaxy S6, I'd rather go for a Nexus 5X. You won't have the size and the battery you have with the Z3C....but in everything else is a win. And it's not an expensive phone.
There are no alternatives to the Z5C at the moment in the compact range. It's the only one I'd buy (and I still don't like it).

I don't have lag or overheating. It's quite hot sometimes but still in a manageable level, don't forget every SD810 phone is hot. But I rooted and using Greenify with xposed so I have more free ram than non-root user and I also flashed Tommy-Geenexus's kernel which lower downed the cpu speed to reduce heat. I think MM will improve big.Little cpu for who experienced lag. In my opinions, z1c z5c s6 the battery performance during use is very similar, not as good as z3c but still enough for normal use. My problem on Z5c is battery drain during idle/standby, after flashed the raidoactivefix xposed module been improved but still worse than z1c and s6 at overnight standby.
Some have bluetooth disconnect issues, after used Amplify xposed module to limit a whole beach of wakelock/alarms my Sony MW600 handfree finally suffer from this issue so it may related somethings bad coded to keep DDOS attacking BT devices....lol... On the other hand, my Sony SmartWatch2 seems never get disconnection, maybe smartwatch's cpu is strong enough to defense spam.
What's the most annoyed me is camera. Low light photo is also good but not above 160/200iso range. 200iso already started a bit bad so most people will just said the camera suck. Within 160iso the quality real better than my Z1c, 200 or up my Z1c even performed better in terms of details. My Z1c with 4K mod doing better focus and quality too.
Not real intended to leave Z5c as I like the better screen, white balance and fast focus, I still want to hold Z5c at this time. But since the result is so mixed to me, if MM not fix it, I will stay with Z1c and get some cash back.

I've seen a few issues as well, I've got a white international with no camera blur and no self cracking screen (yet).
I have to have a one thumb phone so my options were limited. I had an s4 mini for going on 3 years, best phone I've ever had. I always wanted to try the z compacts but the z1c didn't have LTE and the z3c had stupid side charging. I gave the z5c a chance with low expectations based on all the negative I heard, and I was still disappointed lol. I will probably be settling with the s5 mini but until I'll be playing with this.
Very short battery life, no replaceable battery, and no wireless charging. Nothing that I didn't know jumping into it but still hard to deal with having to answer calls while on a charger, let alone the heat on my face is almost unbearable at times.
Camera issues are also something I knew before hand, I am coming from an 8mp camera with a broken lens so it's an upgrade to me. But yet the lag has got to be a joke. Right?
Software is kind of cool, reminds me of miui a bit on the notifications, it's miles above touchwiz, and with some xposed tweaks I think I'll really like the home launcher! Root and xposed are a huge deal to me for some of my apps so I'm still carrying my other device for that need while I figure out xposed on the z5 line. I have had a lot of rooted phones and for you guys waiting and relying on a MM update to fix things... I wouldn't and wont be, there will just be new or slightly fixed issues. Happens every time lol
All in all I like the phone, the form is great, button layout I love, and the screen hopefully will not fade out like my other amoleds! Hopefully we can get some cm12 on this platform to play with soon.

E5823 said:
Regarding poor performance of fingerprint sensor it seems, thanks to michal89chz, that I have found a solution. I had tried to re-register fingerprints before without seeing much of a difference. It seems that registering a fingerprint in all kinds of different angles greatly improves the performance of the sensor, now hit rate has gone up from 4/10 to 9/10. If it keeps up take that off the list of complaints. Though Sony ought to have made it clear in the settings when you first register your prints that this procedure is necessary for a good performance.
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Hate quoting myself, but when necessary...
Fingerprint sensor has not kept up performance. Just like when phone was new, it works like a charm for a day or two, then regresses badly. I don't know if problem is hardware or software, and don't much care except I guess the latter would be better - if they ever manage to release an update (that actually improves things without introducing more bugs than were fixed...).
Anyway, the sensor now works slightly better than before I re-registered all prints a couple of days ago. Hit rate is somewhere between 5-6/10 depending on angle and finger, but sometimes much worse. Not great. And no, phone or fingers are not grimy. One advantage of water-almost-proofness is you can wash off phone now and again. I'm guessing intent of including fingerprint sensor was not for user to wash fingers and phone before every interaction?

I sorta like that the fingerprint sensor doesn't catch 100% touches because I read about people who were irritated that they were just trying to check the time and every time ended up unlocking the phone. It doesn't happen with me and I'm very happy with it, I can live with the extra half second it takes to try again.

From my point of view, i'd like to agree that some of issues mentioned above are present. Those are:
-Poor camera quality. For me the camera is not an essential feature, so i don't complain, but it is really nowhere near the flagship-quality, imho
-Fingerprint scanner performance. It seems to be extremely sensitive about its own and finger's cleanness. It can work just fine for a half a day and then it suddenly rejects the fingerprint for several times. This is my first and only android-based device with the scanner, so i can't compare with sony's direct competitors, but i never experienced such issues using any of apple devices with fingerprint sensor.
-Auto-brightness issues are completely described in posts above, i totally agree with all that.
-Software was unstable for a couple of months after sales launched. As i said, i don't often use a camera, but there was just one time in autumn when it was necessary for me to record a video. And z5c captured no sound at all. The mic that time was not functional at any applications, and i noticed this an hour later when a person who called me could hear no sound from my side. That was extremely disappointing. Some random reboots were present in early versions of firmware too. It get much better and more stable these days, but some minor software issues can still be noticed now and then.
And then here comes the major issue of them all: z5c just doesn't like winter. It was about -10 celsius outside, and i was there for a couple of hours with a phone in the pocket of my jacket. When i returned home, i saw that the glass on rear panel had a massive crack:
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And this issue with glasses cracking when temperature is low is present on every sony's device with glass on its back since the original xperia z. Every winter there are dozens of reports about glass-related problems on our local pda forums, sony's local office was awared of the problem, so there were hopes that they will fix it in their latest models. Here comes z5, and nothing changed. Those issues are covered by warranty as long as warranty lasts (1 year usually), so i didn't have to pay for the repair, but it took some time to replace the glass.

First Impression and After Use Thread

CONGRATS on your purchase,
I know a lot of us have already received our devices, and some haven't. If you have received your new phone, post your first impressions. After using the device some, also post what little tricks you may have found, what you have fell in love with and what you dislike or absolutely hate. Also, what was your previous phone and are you enjoying your upgrade? I'll start by saying first impression is I love the size and screen. Real quick thing I do absolutely hate is Bixby. Tried it out a few times from the button, sucked. And the image recognition got me a little excited, but disappointed. I must also add, the face recognition is amazingly fast.

I use only FACE RECOGNITION - it is very fast, works 99% and I don't think one will steal, shoot a photo, print it... and so on.
It is the fastest and easy way to unlock the phone, I was wearing a hoodie and it worked very very well.
I am not the NSA, so face recognition is enough for me and I am happy that it is as fast as it is...
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My Initial Thoughts
I received my Orchid Gray 64GB T-Mobile device yesterday around 5 PM EST. I have had a few hours to mess around with the device as a result. Here are my first impressions:
1. The screen is absolutely gorgeous. Samsung really hit it out of the park with this one. The images are clear, crisp, vibrant, and with absolutely zero pixels to the naked eye. This holds true even when the device is held close to the face. With that being said.... there are definitely some app and media content compatibility issues. Samsung tries to alleviate this with some built in cropping and optimization from the software side of things, but it just can't hide the fact that the content has quite caught up with the hardware. That is on the development community, though, and not Samsung.
2. Biometrics are the way to go when it comes to logging into and working your way through this device. The iris scanner isn't perfect, but, it is absolutely light years ahead of the tech that we had a taste of in the Note 7. The iris scanner ALMOST feels like a feature at this point, rather than a gimmick. With that being said. The fingerprint scanner is total weak sauce. This doesn't so much have anything to do with the actual location as it does the accuracy ratio of the scanner itself. I have long and thin fingers which make the placement of the fingerprint scanner a nonissue for me. To each their own. I would say that the accuracy is more a constant miss than a hit. I find myself using a combination of smart lock and the iris scanner with a pin to keep me going and it works well for me. I have not tried the facial recognition yet.
3. The device is blisteringly fast. There isn't any argument to be had here. Everything flies from web page scrolling to scrolling through the Playstore to loading apps from memory. No management issues yet that I have been able to spot. The only limitations are those of your data connection. The Snapdragon 835 is a thing of beauty.
4. The actual hardware absolutely oozes quality from the orchid color to the excess of gorilla glass and metal. The device is thin but not flimsy and big but not too heavy. Home run as per usual.
5. I am still working through battery life. I know it takes a few days for your software to settle so i'll report back at a later point with an update. Thus far, though, it is AT LEAST no worse than my Pixel XL. It might be a bit better but it is too early to tell. With that being said. The Pixel XL has faster fast charging. This sucker takes a bit to charge up. Not as long as it could take, but there is faster on the market.
6. My final point and my biggest issue with the device is primarily software. Whereas I felt that Samsung had finally reached a place of beauty with the final Marshmallow builds on the S7 Edge. The Nougat Touchwiz, or Grace, or whatever it is called these days feels like a bit of a step back. The software hasn't reached that point of optimization that the Pixel XL has nor even the level that the S7 Edge had. It feels more like the early Grace UX on the Note 7. There are scaling issues. The menus aren't always arranged in the best way. There is some scrolling jank in terms of the actual Android menus and whatnot. I feel that it probably has to do with an experience that wasn't quite optimized for such a unique screen, yet. I am hoping this will improve over time. I won't really hold it against Samsung. I mean, perhaps I am just spoiled after having been a Pixel XL user from the beginning but I won't say it necessarily works in their benefit yet, either. The S7 Edge felt polished. This experience still feels like a work in progress. Of course.....as of 420/17 we haven't even had a day one patch yet since day one is tomorrow...so......to be continued.
Feel free to ask me any questions if there is something I have missed. I feel like there is a lot I have left unstated.
EDIT: One additional thought. S7 Edge era standing wireless charging cradles are not completely compatible with the 8+ I have one and have tried it. The wireless charging cycles between connect and disconnect because the device is too tall for the cradle. The hardware inside as a result sits just at the edge of the top of the cradle and provides an inconsistent connection. This can be alleviated by sitting the device on the cradle sideways...but who wants to do that? Lol!

First impression...I no like it so much.
After playing with it all night tho, I like it. I got the 64gb s8+ and it's a lil tall but I think I'll grow into it. The fingerprint scanner that everyone is making such a huge deal about is in a great spot for me. When I go to pull it out of my pocket my finger falls right there and it's unlocked B4 I even look at the screen. The audio out of the akg headphones is great and it's even better in my car. Battery life, well, it's at 71% now and it's been on since about 7pm yesterday (10:49am now) and that's with heavy use. My only real gripe with it so far is I want to remap the bixby button to launch the camera. I think that would be perfect...Hope you guys are having fun with your new toys like I am

I've found it to be pretty snappy! I love the iris scanning, it works even with my glasses on. It is actually really easy to use one handed, with a rare supporting off hand assist.
The screen is of course impressive.
I've had 3 occasions where I needed to reboot the device because either an app refused to load. Play Store once, setting TW as my launcher (I was using Nova on my S7E so after smart switch when I pressed the home key it asked which launcher to set as default) and then trying to enable "Ok Google" where it didn't hear me. As an early adopter, I expect that there may be possible hiccups.

Not crazy about lock screen music player...Wish there were other options for that... Seems like I have to make sure I'm hitting exactly in the right spot to skip songs.
Becomes a bit of a annoyance when having to hit the button repeatedly to switch a song...

I'm currently at work and I have 4 bar signal while in the basement. My Note 7, S7, LG V20 got 2-3 or no bars. I'm extremely happy due to this. More to follow and im glad i got it.
took forever for Iris scanner to register my iris properly

Its a great phone overeall.
Fast and great looking screen. Feels really good in the hand.
I got the s8 plus and im able to access everything on the phone.
The fingerprint sensor works. I can have the phone in my right hand and press the power with my thumb and finger on the sensor.
The home key took a bit to get use to. I wasnt pushing on it like i should.
Gui/OS has some nice changes, that makes things faster or easier to do.
Bixiy isnt useful at all. Maybe once its update it will work better. But on a sids note i havent Accidentally hit the button. So thats good.
The obly complain i would have a bout the phone that some apps dont fit full screen. You can force them but then the sides get cut off.
I know its an Aspect rataio that should be fix in updates of those apps.
And ill have to test but i think the speaker is lower volume then the s7e. But not sure yet.

buttsak said:
First impression...I no like it so much.
After playing with it all night tho, I like it. I got the 64gb s8+ and it's a lil tall but I think I'll grow into it. The fingerprint scanner that everyone is making such a huge deal about is in a great spot for me. When I go to pull it out of my pocket my finger falls right there and it's unlocked B4 I even look at the screen. The audio out of the akg headphones is great and it's even better in my car. Battery life, well, it's at 71% now and it's been on since about 7pm yesterday (10:49am now) and that's with heavy use. My only real gripe with it so far is I want to remap the bixby button to launch the camera. I think that would be perfect...Hope you guys are having fun with your new toys like I am
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I haven't updated it yet, so I was stil able to use the "All in one Gesture" app that was discussed on XDA before official release.

My second day impressions are pretty much spot on with @TheAnarchist1. This is hands-down the snappiest phone I have ever used. The screen is brilliant, and this version of Touchwiz is (finally) excellent. I've seen lot of features that the other launchers have had for years. I usually install Nova immediately, but this time I'm rolling with stock. I also was able to remap the Bixby button to Google Assistant with no problem.
My only issue (so far) is with the always-on screen. I've had two pocket dials and responded to a text with gibberish while the device was in my front pocket. Clearly, that's not going to work. I'll probably have to turn it off.

Just got mine going.
Design is pretty good, however, I think personally I would have preferred they stick with the sharper corners from the Note 7 and less rounded screen like the Note 7. Basically make the Note 7 but with smaller top and bottom bezels and this screen size. This is fine though, here's to hoping for the Note 8.
Obviously the fingerprint sensor on the back. Would have been exceptional for the fingerprint sensor to be built into the screen as rumored, but I don't particularly think this placement is much worse than any other fingerprint sensor that is on the back of the phone. I've mapped fingers from both hands, and when two handed, I find my left pointer rests on the sensor so it is kinda nice in some regard. I use smart location and bluetooth device unlocks a lot, so I avoid unlocking for the most part, at home, in vehicle, running with headphones, etc... Iris scanner is very useful, most of the time, but it can be awkward. Haven't tried facial recognition.
I see SIGNIFICANT improvement to Touchwiz and now they finally get at least some customization options. I'm trying to make it work, but a couple hours in, I'm already itching to switch back to Nova launcher. Small little peeves, but overall, it finally looks good, and has enough customization that I don't think the Samsung launcher is too bad. I really wish they would stop loading messengers for Verizon and Samsung, to which Samsung's is un-disable-able. Samsung makes special customization and actions for theirs, but I still don't want to use a manufactures messenger. Google brand for me.

1. So far, I'm amazed how well the iris scanner works and it is totally a fingerprint substitution. The battery life is simply amazing imo, I'm using it to the phone quite frequently in fact I have been browsing the web and using all sorts of social media the past hour. I should say I've only dropped about 8%, I'm genuinely pleased.
2. Performance is snappy, I haven't come across "real" lag (arbitrary statement). Coming from a note 4, TouchWiz has greatly been optimized and made much smoother.
3. 4gs of ram sounds like a little in 2017 but it's holding up like a champ!
4. So far I'm just in awe how great this phone is just to hold. I was scared the s8+ would be too big, but it fits perfect in the hand and is comfortable to use.

I can update this post as time goes by, but so far I only have a few gripes and some are not of the phone itself but the software:
1. I was upset when I was forced to go from the Note 7 back to the S7 edge due to the battery issues ( Twice! ) and was upset again when the s7 did not have the option of showing your calendar events listed on the Always On screen and instead just had the full month calendar. Eventually it was updated and gained that capability, but now, the S8 is the same way! I am an attorney and always have somewhere to be or someone coming by so it was nice just to look at my phone and know what was coming up without having to unlock it to check my calendar. Not a biggie, just annoying that a new phone is without that option.
2. The screen ration thing does look annoying sometimes. You can just tell that you have this big beautiful screen but almost everytime you turn it landscape there are black bars and your apps look the exact same as on the previous phone. Like I said, this is just the software thing and hopefully apps will catch up and start utilizing the larger screen more.
Otherwise, love the screen, love the speed. Wanted to stick with TouchWiz but I have a thing about the bottom of the screen not being available and the limitations of the 5x5 setup so I went back to Solo Launcher where I can hide the notification panel and dock at the bottom which makes this big screen look even bigger! More native customization of the home screen closer to home replacements such as that is what Touchwiz has been missing for a long time.

My initial impressions on my S8+:
1. It's incredibly fast. Snappier than any Samsung phone I've ever had or would ever expect them to produce. Loading time doesn't even exist for most apps, and the various animations seem much better than their older phones - the phone's performance reminds me more of the One plus 3T than an S7.
2. Battery life is really impressive. It looks like it might have the best battery life of any phone I've ever owned, which is particularly impressive considering it's a bigger screen and a smaller battery than the S7E.
3. The fingerprint scanner placement isn't quite as bad as people would lead you to believe. I haven't accidentally touched my camera lens once. However, it is a not too high up on the phone, which leads me to only touching it with half my finger, leading to it not unlocking. If they had located the entire set up a little lower on the device, it would've been fine.
4. The S8+ is a little too tall for my liking. It's practically impossible to reach the top opposite corner when using it with one hand. Obviously, activating one handed mode is one solution, but I really hope with flagships switching to 18:9 ratios, developers start moving any and all buttons to the lower half of their apps.

First impression, absolutely fabulous phone. Why ist the small cores maximum freq disabled?

Other than AT&T sent me the wrong color (You had one job...) I LOVE the phone. Coming from a Nexus 6P this thing is INSANE.

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This can be alleviated by sitting the device on the cradle sideways...but who wants to do that? Lol!
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I got a chuckle from that because someone asked me in another thread if the charger would work with the phone in landscape position. BTW, nice review.

Just set it up. My only gripe is so far is I wish Samsung used Google version of restore data. I connected it to my Pixel and it copied everything but data. I guess the app wasn't able to do it. So having to manually download all my apps sucked.

just bought my oneplus 5

I'm not to sure if I like it.... I am alone thinking this?

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I'm not to sure if I like it.... I am alone thinking this?
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Probably not, had the S8 too for a few days and for me it was a dissapointing experience. While on paper it should be a blazing fast device, in real life i xperienced stutters/lag/framedrops while gaming/opening apps and animations. The OP5 i have now in raw performance is much faster and smoother then the S8. The Samsung soft-
and bloatware still is too heavy on the cpu/gpu to have a smooth working device. Think the HTC U11/LG G6 are better devices then the S8(+) imo.

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Probably not, had the S8 too for a few days and for me it was a dissapointing experience. While on paper it should be a blazing fast device, in real life i xperienced stutters/lag/framedrops while gaming/opening apps and animations. The OP5 i have now in raw performance is much faster and smoother then the S8. The Samsung soft-
and bloatware still is too heavy on the cpu/gpu to have a smooth working device. Think the HTC U11/LG G6 are better devices then the S8(+) imo.
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He was talking about the OP5, not the S8?!

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He was talking about the OP5, not the S8?!
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Indeed. But as someone who has the S8 and misses the pure Android experience, gee2012's post actually resonated well with me.
For a couple of weeks now, I've been kicking around the idea of giving the S8 to my wife, to replace her busted up S6, and picking up a OnePlus 5. But I just can't seem to pull the trigger for some reason.

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Indeed. But as someone who has the S8 and misses the pure Android experience, gee2012's post actually resonated well with me.
For a couple of weeks now, I've been kicking around the idea of giving the S8 to my wife, to replace her busted up S6, and picking up a OnePlus 5. But I just can't seem to pull the trigger for some reason.
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I have the S8+ and OP5 and IMHO the S8+ is a much better phone. Granted, I have mine rooted with a custom Rom and kernel and it's super fast. I guess everyone looks from their phone but for me there's no competition the S8+ wins every time.

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I have the S8+ and OP5 and IMHO the S8+ is a much better phone. Granted, I have mine rooted with a custom Rom and kernel and it's super fast. I guess everyone looks from their phone but for me there's no competition the S8+ wins every time.
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Yeah, I must say that I absolutely love the screen on the S8. I wasn't previously one to use my phones to watch TV/movies. However, since getting the S8 I now love watching Netflix on this huge screen while doing cardio at the gym.
I installed BK Disabler the first day and set that up to keep all the bloatware disabled. The phone has continued to be blazing fast and I haven't experienced any noticeable hiccups or lagging in daily use.
The one issue I do have is with the fingerprint scanner. It's slow when compared to the Pixel and sometimes it will completely stop working until the phone is rebooted. However, the Iris scanner is extremely reliable and usually gets my phone unlocked before I can even get my finger to the fingerprint scanner. Granted, this is not a solution if you're wearing sun glasses.
I do miss the pure Android experience but don't bother rooting anymore since some of my daily apps, including my banking apps, don't work on rooted phones anymore. Maybe I'll hold off until I see what the Pixel 2 has to offer this fall.

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Yeah, I must say that I absolutely love the screen on the S8. I wasn't previously one to use my phones to watch TV/movies. However, since getting the S8 I now love watching Netflix on this huge screen while doing cardio at the gym.
I installed BK Disabler the first day and set that up to keep all the bloatware disabled. The phone has continued to be blazing fast and I haven't experienced any noticeable hiccups or lagging in daily use.
The one issue I do have is with the fingerprint scanner. It's slow when compared to the Pixel and sometimes it will completely stop working until the phone is rebooted. However, the Iris scanner is extremely reliable and usually gets my phone unlocked before I can even get my finger to the fingerprint scanner. Granted, this is not a solution if you're wearing sun glasses.
I do miss the pure Android experience but don't bother rooting anymore since some of my daily apps, including my banking apps, don't work on rooted phones anymore. Maybe I'll hold off until I see what the Pixel 2 has to offer this fall.
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There are some annoyances with the S8 like you said with the fingerprint reader and another thing that annoyes me is finding a good screen protector! All in all though again IMO it's streets ahead of the OP5 (I know a lot on here will disagree with me) from camera to display to general build quality. Stock I agree again performance it's quite stuttery but as I said rooted etc etc I've got it to be very, very smooth and fast. I'm also waiting on the Pixel 2 to see what that offers next but I've been quite let down by the OP5.

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I have the S8+ and OP5 and IMHO the S8+ is a much better phone. Granted, I have mine rooted with a custom Rom and kernel and it's super fast. I guess everyone looks from their phone but for me there's no competition the S8+ wins every time.
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That's great and all but what about people in the US. I feel like this is something that every time someone brings up the comparison(OP5 to GS8) that gets overlooked. Even if you buy the GS8 Unlocked in the US there is no way to do anything that involves the Kernel, Rom, or any deep modification to the phone. As I understand the OP5 is more popular other countries, though it seems as that no one even brings this up.

Batfink33 said:
I have the S8+ and OP5 and IMHO the S8+ is a much better phone. Granted, I have mine rooted with a custom Rom and kernel and it's super fast. I guess everyone looks from their phone but for me there's no competition the S8+ wins every time.
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Had the s8+..4 different models with pink screens. I'm sure it's a great phone if you can get one that doesn't have a defective screen. I personally gave up on that goal. Love my OP5

zathus said:
Had the s8+..4 different models with pink screens. I'm sure it's a great phone if you can get one that doesn't have a defective screen. I personally gave up on that goal. Love my OP5
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Yeah, it happens with AMOLED panels. Took me 3 6Ps to get one with a uniform colour screen. Luckily with the S8 my first one was uniform.

How's yours OP5 screen uniformity ? Mine seems ok.
What's the best way to test it?
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Mine seems ok! Tested at diferent screen intensity with this page: http://www.nullabletype.co.uk/static/styles/blah2.html (scroll down)

I came to 1+5 from LG G2, and I should say that it seems like if I came from stone age
It is really fast.. still I am facing two issues:
1- fingerprint scanner sometimes not responding at all after ideal time.
2- Sometimes it dose not connect to data network at all(which is 3G), I need to switch it manually to 2G and then to automatic mode by hand , then it can see the 3G network, strange.
Everything else in my opinion is superb.

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I came to 1+5 from LG G2, and I should say that it seems like if I came from stone age
It is really fast.. still I am facing two issues:
1- fingerprint scanner sometimes not responding at all after ideal time.
2- Sometimes it dose not connect to data network at all(which is 3G), I need to switch it manually to 2G and then to automatic mode by hand , then it can see the 3G network, strange.
Everything else in my opinion is superb.
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1. What do you mean about "ideal time" ?
2. Probably carrier related, have you checked your apn ( not sure if it's called the same in english )?

nosphor said:
1. What do you mean about "ideal time" ?
2. Probably carrier related, have you checked your apn ( not sure if it's called the same in english )?
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1- sorry for mistype, idle time
2- yeah, it actually working fine, but if I have been on WiFi for a while, then switch to 3G, sometimes it dose not work, this happens randomly.

TMSxXDA said:
1- sorry for mistype, idle time
2- yeah, it actually working fine, but if I have been on WiFi for a while, then switch to 3G, sometimes it dose not work, this happens randomly.
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I remember having this kind of problem with my previous phone (Oneplus One). Don't remember how i fixed it because it suddently disappeared. I change my phone operator during that period so i think it's somehow related. But yeah i agree it's kinda annoying ^^.

fingerprint sensor garbage?

It's it just my device or is this fingerprint reader garbage. I tried all the tricks, setting the printer in dark rooms, light rooms, and no matter what, it almost always never unlocks the phone, I mean 1 out of 10 times if I'm lucky. So is it just my device and should I rma or are you guys experiencing the same. Thank God face unlock is beast tho

It's the phone..the fingerprint scanner sucks. Thank God face lock works well..and fast
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After the update it feels faster for some reason....idk what's going on with other people's devices

Not garbage but not perfect. Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet on latest and greatest.

Mine works fine. Maybe not as fast as a physical scanner but well enough. It was somewhat annoying before the update but it's much faster after the update. (TMobile variant)

This finger scanner sucks. I don't even care about it unlocking the phone. I care about all the other apps I use the fingerprint for

I just reset my finger print in a darker room and added both thumbs twice.
It's taking half the time to unlock the phone now.
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I mean, it doesn't even unlock my phone most of the time, I am not talking about speed, I'm saying it doesn't even work

I haven't had any problems beside fingerprint beeing slower that physical one. I use with my bank account and other fingerprint apps that actually works faster than when unlocking the phone. I have unlocked version.
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So it's not as fast, but it seems to work as consistently as my Pixel 2XL. I'm happy with it.

millerd79 said:
I just reset my finger print in a darker room and added both thumbs twice.
It's taking half the time to unlock the phone now.
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I read about the dark room thing somewhere else as well and just tried it. Seems to be working more accurately but we'll have to see if that lasts.
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I read about the dark room thing somewhere else as well and just tried it. Seems to be working more accurately but we'll have to see if that lasts.
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I just don't see why they have concentrated on the fingerprint scanner to be honest. Make the faceunlock more secure.....for me that's the future

It's yours, no problem with mine

Be specific as to what model you have. My scanner has been good right out the box on 9.0.5
Works 9/10 of the time no lag.
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My scanner has easily been 9 outta 10 and barely slower than on my pixel 3. Works way better than I was expecting.
It's all in how you train your prints!!

Same good experience for me. Nearly 100% on first press.
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Mine is in no way as fast as the 3XL was, that one was instant, this one is not. It is however completely reliable so long as I actually put my finger over the print icon. I only miss it on the odd occasion and I will invariably notice that I was off the sweet spot when it happens. Mine is reasonably quick, I touch and give it just a bit of a delay, a hesitation, before I pull off and it goes through fine.
The reason they don't put further work into the face unlock is that it can be defeated with a picture and this cant be fixed unless they embed more tech to get full 3D facial ID. This isn't really the end game though, ultrasonic fingerprint scanning is where everyone is going for now. Even Apple is working on the tech (based on recent patent filings) because no matter how good face gets it cant work off the desk without 360 degree off axis camera coverage which while technically possible isn't going to work any better than ultrasonic because you still have to touch the phone to get it a wake up. Somewhere I read the rumor that Apple will use both to enable 2 factor bio for banking and other secure apps. Presumably either would be good enough to light up the phone? Anyhow it sounds like the ultrasonic is quite a lot better. It's easy to have the entire bottom or even all of the screen hot for authentication, it's faster, more accurate, doesn't require an icon on screen for exactly where you need to touch which removes the screen burn in problem with having the sensor on the AOD.
I think most of you remember when there was no "good" fingerprint scanner. Even the iphone was a cludge when it first hit. I'm thinking it was the S6 where I first had it and I wanted to throw that phone out the window. I'm feeling pretty good about them getting embedded scanners up to snuff and relatively soon. I'm thinking it was the 3T where I first had rock solid 100% working scanning and that wasn't long after the S6. Meanwhile we're leading the charge, pioneers, marching boldy into the future...

Umm for me it works like 95%... Maybe 1 time per day I have to retry...
Its awesome ?

I redid my prints for a 3 time and this time focused more on center then the top of my finger. Seems to be working alot better

99% accurate for me and more than fast enough to not notice a real delay.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy A50, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy A50 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Worst fingerprint experience ever. It doesn't recognize the registered fingerprints most of the time. I hope there will be a software fix or I will sell this garbage.

Ota updates
Hi i am a a50 user my phone originally from malysia i install indian rom with odin for faster update do i still get ota update?

My previous smartphone was a HTC U Ultra, and so far I couldn't be happier with the change.
The screen is awesome and the battery seems to be excellent as well.
My only complaint is the fingerprint reader which is garbage, but that isn't a mayor issue for me because the face unlock works really well.

Got the phone 3 days ago.
Display is excellent. Camera is far above expectations in midrange class. Battery is moderate: 2 days of light use ( Lenovo P2 does 4-5 days ). Software UI is messy - as with Samsung - you like it or hate.
What is my worst nightmare are notifications ! This is my first and definitely LAST phone without LED. Such small thing ruined my all positive feelings to this phone.
In theory one may set: screen blinking and/or LED Flash blinking upon missed notifications. THAT DOES NOT WORK ! ( tried many times and did few factory resets ).
The ONLY way is: you must pick up the phone and check manually the notification bar. I hate it !
I also have Galaxy Watch ( worked flawlessly with Lenovo P2 for many month ). I thought that Samsung Phone and Watch will cooperate perfectly. Nothing of that kind ! Devices repeatedly disconnect making my Galaxy Watch practically unusable.
At this moment I am totally discouraged and plan to sell this phone. Maybe I will wait to first update - if anything changes for better.

Hey mate, yeah I miss the LED diode too. However, if you set up the AOD to be always on then it's quite managable and it doesn't drain the battery that much too (if you have dark mode on). Also you can try setting up the notification reminders in the settings - it will vibrate/make a notification sound every 3 minutes or so to remind you of any notifications that you might have missed. You could maybe try returning the device for a new one, my unit was restarting on its own every 2 days and after I got it exchanged for a new unit it looks fine (so far so good...). That may help with the Galaxy Watch, or maybe wait for a firmware update. It should fix the fingerprint and camera performance too.

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Also you can try setting up the notification reminders in the settings - it will vibrate/make a notification sound every 3 minutes or so to remind you of any notifications that you might have missed.
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I did it but i get reminder only once

The Display from Samsung is obviously a dope for many. Even it has 1080P, the display is the highlight for phone.

Really good screen and processor for this price point but camera and fingerprint reader are absolutely not good. Face unlock is blazing fast but doesn't work in low light conditions.
Single speaker but it gets decently loud(louder than my nexus 6p dual speakers)
Dolby atmos boosts headphone sound quality.
Bluetooth 5 but not all features supported,only supports high speed phy2m same as Samsung s9. No problems with bluetooth headphones but range is not as far as other bluetooth 5 devices.

Bought the phone few days ago and these are my first impressions. Screen is excellent big and colorful. Really good battery life so nothing to complain here. The cameras are decent its what you would expect form this price point but it will get you good shoots when you need it, ultrawide lens is definitely a plus. Now fingerprint, its ok its not nearly as bad as I read from people here. Yeah I know capacitive sensor is fast but hey this one is not that bad. FYI scan your finger sideways not vertically because you will likely scan it this way when using the phone (it should work faster), and scan same finger as two separate fingerprints this should help too https://www.reddit.com/r/LifeProTip...can_the_same_finger_as_2_separate_fingers_on/. Did I mention the excellent battery!?
Regarding bloatware....now I saw a lot of review sites complaining about this one, and I have to say Its not brutal like they say it is. One thing to look out here is when you setup your phone to skip installing all those Samsung apps with Samsung account the phone offers you and you will be fine. Then just disable or uninstall the ones you don't need(At least it's so here in Europe dont know about other regions). Ads, ads, ads.....everywhere, well you can disable them in the initial setup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6Tz7kLCTaA.
Overall, Its a great phone for the money and people should not expect perfect performance in games or perfect camera or fastest on earth fingerprint sensor, but a solid phone that gets things done in almost every aspect of it.

Hi mate developers are found a new approach for LED notification. They are planning to use animation under camera light to use it as a notification LED. Besides you have always screen on option as a workaround as of for now.

Letting blink fake "led's" on the display as a notification no good idea?
The current AOD is kind of a weak implementation. There should be something blinking and the clock should be able to turned off.

Except for the fingerprint, it's perfect

Well... I can see that other guys have the same problem: fingerprint scanner. No led lights.
So after the initial hype I cooled down and here's my 2 cents...
Overall the phone is great. I mean both size and userfriendliness. Have the phone only 2 days and so far it's ok. After initial charge the battery showing 45% remaining at the end of the second day. WOW!
I'm not a heavy user, but still impressed.
Now , 2-3 things that ruined the joy.
1) fingerprint scanner is a complete mess!!!
2) notification light missing! Until now I didn't realized how convenient it is (and useful).
3) no IP rating.
I'm on the verge of going back to my previous phone (A8 2018) which was a VERY GOOD phone...

Loving my A50
So far, for the pricepoint, a really good experience. Nice cameras for photos, selfies, wide angles and video recording, beautiful display and great UI, even the Samsung apps are nice and not so invasive, the design is flagship-alike, the battery holds 1,5 day with heavy usage easy, the recording quality pretty decent, and came with headphones, screen and back protectors and the USB-c cable ♡.
Cons: Not so good Fingerprint reader, no IP rating, no led, too many fingerprints in the back and... I don't know, not a heavy gaming phone.
Very happy with this phone

So couple of days passed... find out that if you leave your finger on screen for 5-6 seconds it unlocks the phone. However I haven't got the update yet, so will see how it works after the update...
P.S.: happy with the phone, but still inner voice whispering "go back to A8 ,(which feels more premium)" ...

Try registering multiple times the same finger you use for unlocking the phone... change angle or position your finger for every fingerprint entry. Much better if you will register the position which your finger aligns with the sensor when handling the phone in normal conditions. Scanning would be faster.

Nah... don't bother me anymore. S10 is on the way

Overall I'm disappointed by this phone. Weak signal reception, SOT not so good, awfully finger print sensor. Man.....I'll go for another brand for my next phone

Quite satisfied with my a50, for a device that cost me only 250€. Good battery, beautifull screen, good perf after adb debloat, good rom ( a lot of usefull features )
Of course on negative side, the fingerprint scanner is just awfull, but you can use face unlock instead , it works flawlessly and is very fast, it works even in a dark room

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