I'm waiting for an Audiophile grade unit. Is there a unit out that has the following:
Hi-Res DAC (Hopefully at least 32-bit/192kHz)
Optical out
Volume Knob (not a deal breaker)
3gb of ram or more
speedy processor
Nice screen size at least 7"
Nice 31 band EQ or 15 bands for left and right
And if these are not available, are any of the manufacturers on this board that can push for this type of product? I truly believe if there was such a unit, that they would kill the market in one year.
EricP72 said:
I'm waiting for an Audiophile grade unit. Is there a unit out that has the following:
Hi-Res DAC (Hopefully at least 32-bit/192kHz)
Optical out
Volume Knob (not a deal breaker)
3gb of ram or more
speedy processor
Nice screen size at least 7"
Nice 31 band EQ or 15 bands for left and right
And if these are not available, are any of the manufacturers on this board that can push for this type of product? I truly believe if there was such a unit, that they would kill the market in one year.
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First, there are no such units available.
Second, I think you overestimate the market for something like that. The "audiophile" is a very VERY fringe market.
What is needed, is generally better quality hardware. Something with mainstream parts, like a high end qualcomm SoC, and supported by some outfit that is actually *COMPETENT*.
The better overall quality hardware would naturally have better quality audio come along for the ride, and this would definitely be enough.
luciusfox said:
First, there are no such units available.
Second, I think you overestimate the market for something like that. The "audiophile" is a very VERY fringe market.
What is needed, is generally better quality hardware. Something with mainstream parts, like a high end qualcomm SoC, and supported by some outfit that is actually *COMPETENT*.
The better overall quality hardware would naturally have better quality audio come along for the ride, and this would definitely be enough.
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What would be the 'best' constructed head unit right now?
I was looking for an Android head unit, and my car dealer wanted to sell me a Parrot Asteroid Smart (with an amazing Android 2.3 and 512MB memory...).
I did multiple searches and got to no conclusion. Probably the best quality 'chinese' head units right now are joying and Xtrons, but even they are not specially good at audio quality.
I read there was a posibility to 'hardware-hack' some PX3 units (but I wanted PX5...)
Any recommendations?
I have recently just removed my android head unit from my car and reinstalled the standard head unit.
The audio out of the android unit is horiffic to say the least. The standard headunit knocks the socks off of the
android unit plus they have the cheek to advertize it as HIFI quality sound.
ptolomeo said:
What would be the 'best' constructed head unit right now?
I was looking for an Android head unit, and my car dealer wanted to sell me a Parrot Asteroid Smart (with an amazing Android 2.3 and 512MB memory...).
I did multiple searches and got to no conclusion. Probably the best quality 'chinese' head units right now are joying and Xtrons, but even they are not specially good at audio quality.
I read there was a posibility to 'hardware-hack' some PX3 units (but I wanted PX5...)
Any recommendations?
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Dynavin units are the closest from what I've heard with Burr-Brown DACs. But the actual Android side of things is a bit dated
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ptolomeo said:
What would be the 'best' constructed head unit right now?
I was looking for an Android head unit, and my car dealer wanted to sell me a Parrot Asteroid Smart (with an amazing Android 2.3 and 512MB memory...).
I did multiple searches and got to no conclusion. Probably the best quality 'chinese' head units right now are joying and Xtrons, but even they are not specially good at audio quality.
I read there was a posibility to 'hardware-hack' some PX3 units (but I wanted PX5...)
Any recommendations?
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The hardware hack on the PX3's you are referring to... is that the one where they disconnect the BD37xxx from the MCU and connect it to the SoC? If so, point your sights at an INTEL JOYING, because the BD37033 *IS* connected to the SoC, and is directly controllable.
I found a Wondefoo PX5 (mtcd) unit for my Volkswagen that has the OEM look (important to me) so I don't get robbed, 720p screen, DVD, and most importantly the DSP, $270. Dasaita has the DSP with Px6 but costs about $430and is definitely aftermarket looking, and 1000x600 screen, and no disk drive.
Is it worth sacraficing features and the extra money and to get the Dasaita PX6 performance and supposed quality? Everything I'm reading points to Dasaita as the go to
You don't say which car you have but I would suggest the K3 high from Ownice just because it's a MTC PX5 with an IPS screen and there's lots of support and customization for it here. There's a pro version and it appears to be PX6 with 64GB but I wouldn't bother with it. I have the PX5 K3 pro and I don't regret buying it but I don't think it was worth the extra money. If there's a feature you would like from the pro version you can ask for it when you place your order. And ask to ship with the HU not mounted to the faceplate that will save you headaches their packaging is not the best.
I think the Dasaita has a CSN MCU. I haven't been following development on it so I'm not sure what customization is available.
It seems like all the head units with PX6 or PX CPU only are available with 600p displays? At least from the known manufacturers.
The only Android head unit I have found with 1280 x 720 display is the Joying with Intel CPU. But it has gotten bad reviews and is lacking community support. So I would prefer a PX6 head unit. Do they exist, and do you have any recommendation? Thanks!
My Erisin 8715V got 1280x720 with PX5..
dape16 said:
It seems like all the head units with PX6 or PX CPU only are available with 600p displays? At least from the known manufacturers.
The only Android head unit I have found with 1280 x 720 display is the Joying with Intel CPU. But it has gotten bad reviews and is lacking community support. So I would prefer a PX6 head unit. Do they exist, and do you have any recommendation? Thanks!
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Px5 or px6 is a processor not a make or model of Chinese Android head unit.
There are multiple manufacturers of head units with these processors, and are not created equally. which ones have been considered.
@marchnz
do you have suggestion which brand is ok and which brand should be kept away from ?
in regards to de px6 and 720 resolution ?
marchnz said:
Px5 or px6 is a processor not a make or model of Chinese Android head unit.
There are multiple manufacturers of head units with these processors, and are not created equally. which ones have been considered.
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My post is almost 1,5 years old, now 720p screens are common.
maybe so, but doesn't make the choice easier
so any suggestion is welcome
Just was browsing around and came across it. First by them and a new launcher that's definitely better than all their others as far as I can tell from the pictures
Joying 8" Qualcomm Snapdragon 2Din Car GPS With 2021 Newest Designed User Interface
SKU: JY-UQD80N4G-GTShip From: Chinese WarehouseCPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8953 Octa Core Cortex-A53 Ram: LPDDR4 4GB Rom:EMMC 64GBSupport Bluetooth, WiFi, DVR, OBD2, Back-Up Camera
www.joyingauto.com
New Released Qualcomm Snapdragon 10.1" Car Music Media Supports 4G module
SKU: JY-UQD10N4G-GTShip From: Chinese WarehouseCPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8953 Octa Core Cortex-A53 Ram: LPDDR4 4GB Rom:EMMC 64GBSupport Bluetooth, WiFi, DVR, OBD2, Back-Up Camera
www.joyingauto.com
I have been contemplating these but had some bad experiences with sound quality on px5 head units that ran less than 300$... but on paper these look beast. Was hoping to find more information but think I'm just going to pull the trigger and buy and test it out. Going in my new to me sequoia which will need to be modified since the screen won't stick out enough on the radio hole of the first gen sequoia.
have also been emailing them on the difference of the specs. but they won't commit that with snapdragon chip its a much faster and stable performance.
also that with the snapdragon chip unit, the user interface is also different from other standard joying head unit. its same as the TEYES CC3 head unit. have also asked Joying whether future Joying head unit (less Snapdragon chip) will be in this interface, but they also don't commit nor answer me clearly...haiz...
So since my last post i pulled the trigger on the unit with the snapdragon. I went with the 10.1 screen so far it looks good from my test bench and TMobile sim. I'll be uploading a video once I get it in my car... which I need to drop off at the body shop since i got side swiped in downtown... But hopefully get it in before it goes to the body shop. Here are some pictures from CPU z app.
https://imgur.com/mXtBIr5
Can you comment on sound quality.
I recently bought a UIS7862 unit. A week after my purchase, new units with snapdragon appeared on the website.
Should I regret my purchase? - I am mainly interested in whether the sound quality of the new units has improved.
yegolebi said:
Can you comment on sound quality.
I recently bought a UIS7862 unit. A week after my purchase, new units with snapdragon appeared on the website.
Should I regret my purchase? - I am mainly interested in whether the sound quality of the new units has improved.
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Ok so I was writing this and noticed it went long so I decided to put this in the beginning, I will be doing testing of the RCA output as well as coaxial but not the line out as that will not be my route of installation. I will also be using a DSP so my results can vary from yours. If I were you I would not worry too much about the sound quality difference between joying head units. You would have to go to a time before DSP to hear a good audio difference. I believe they have DSP on all their units now, further more i see that unit also has coax and optical out, you should try and implement one of those with a DSP for best results. With that said most of these units are only pushing about 1.5-2.5 Volts on RCA outputs from what I've seen, so hooking these up directly to amplifier might leave more to be desired in terms of volume and turning gains up will only make it sound worse. Line drivers can fix this but as before it is an additional cost but a cheaper option to a DSP. Also one thing I noticed is my old Android generic radio only has 13 band EQ this one has 27 band EQ that works through all outputs even the digital coaxial and optical so if you are fine tuning with an RTA this might provide better fine tuning options.
Thank you for your response.
I'm currently listening using the built-in amp, and the sound quality in that configuration is what I was asking about. My unit has a 16 band eq, it looks like the new units with snapdragon have a new DSP (more eq bands, 5.1 spdif output) and thus most likely different DACs and accompanying analogue circuitry. So even though the amp ic is the same, these units could potentially sound differently (I am thinking about comparing it with flat eq setings)
yegolebi said:
Thank you for your response.
I'm currently listening using the built-in amp, and the sound quality in that configuration is what I was asking about. My unit has a 16 band eq, it looks like the new units with snapdragon have a new DSP (more eq bands, 5.1 spdif output) and thus most likely different DACs and accompanying analogue circuitry. So even though the amp ic is the same, these units could potentially sound differently (I am thinking about comparing it with flat eq setings)
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Ok I see. I will be momentarily running of the internal amp as I do not have the time to do the whole system before Friday, which is when I plan on dropping the vehicle of at the body shop for repairs. I will be able to give you an honest opinion on the audio capabilities compared to the old unit i had which was a 2017 model px5 from a generic manufacturer. I can't for sure confirm that it would perform better than your unit as I haven't herd your model but can assure you if it does well enough or if it sounds sub par. My old unit couldn't get to 1 volt on RCA's so even boosting it with a line driver sound was horrible. Also might not be the best one to give you feed back on completely stock components as my vehicle has a JBL system i will be bypassing which is 6 channels from factory with 10 speakers so the phasing and ohm resistance might poop the results but I'll be giving it a go non the less
Looking forward to your opinion.
thanks!!
I hope they put out some units with buttons/knobs. I had an airmont until recently that was like that and was very inconvenient.
rudy626 said:
So since my last post i pulled the trigger on the unit with the snapdragon. I went with the 10.1 screen so far it looks good from my test bench and TMobile sim. I'll be uploading a video once I get it in my car... which I need to drop off at the body shop since i got side swiped in downtown... But hopefully get it in before it goes to the body shop. Here are some pictures from CPU z app.
https://imgur.com/mXtBIr5
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How was the performance and as well as the stability of the system with the snapdragon so far? i resume was the snapdragon 625 that was posted in the Joying website.
Was having a headache in choosing either the TEYES CC3 and this 10.1" snapdragon 625 chip.
User interface is same for both:
1. TEYES CC3 is a 9" QLED screen but is 1280*720, Ram can be upgraded to 6GB and storage can be upgraded to 128GB.
2. Joying 10.1" screen is a 1280*800 resolution, Ram and storage is fixed to 4GB/64GB respectively.
What is the biggest differences between the UIS7862 and snapdragon 625? Based on every metric I could find, the snapdragon 625 is an older and inferior cpu in every way. Am I missing something? Why is it more expensive?
Processor Comparison - Head 2 Head
UNISOC T610 vs Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 - Benchmarks, Tests and Comparisons
www.notebookcheck.net
Qualcomm MSM8953 Snapdragon 625 vs Unisoc UIS7862 Benchmarks, Specs, Performance Comparison and Differences - GadgetVersus
Comparison between Qualcomm MSM8953 Snapdragon 625 and Unisoc UIS7862 with the specifications of the processors, the number of cores, threads, cache memory, also the performance in benchmark platforms such as Geekbench, Passmark, Cinebench or AnTuTu.
gadgetversus.com
yegolebi said:
Looking forward to your opinion.
thanks!!
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Ok so I took a drive to my parents today which is about an hour drive one way, and my honest opinion of the internal amp is that it is significantly better than my old unit. It can get loud and keep clarity up to 36 of max 40 volume. Granted I am still running factory speakers it does perform better than my factory JBL factory system, and I did bypass the factory amplifiers which, was a pain since this suv has them in 2 different locations, but i am impressed with the internal power of this head unit.
forgivegod said:
I hope they put out some units with buttons/knobs. I had an airmont until recently that was like that and was very inconvenient.
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I'd hope they'd do a 10" or above head unit with a knob I'd upgraded in a jiffy. I'm old school and prefer a knob even over swc.
weslim said:
How was the performance and as well as the stability of the system with the snapdragon so far? i resume was the snapdragon 625 that was posted in the Joying website.
Was having a headache in choosing either the TEYES CC3 and this 10.1" snapdragon 625 chip.
User interface is same for both:
1. TEYES CC3 is a 9" QLED screen but is 1280*720, Ram can be upgraded to 6GB and storage can be upgraded to 128GB.
2. Joying 10.1" screen is a 1280*800 resolution, Ram and storage is fixed to 4GB/64GB respectively.
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Yes I went with this model JY-UQD10N4G-GT which has the snapdragon 625 and as of now going into my second day and spending more time with it today I am very pleased and performance is not an issue as of now. With these units the case is usually on the longer term probably after the first few months. I will keep you updated if anything arises. My choice was easy as I was going for better stand alone performance in regards to mobile connectivity and the snapdragon supports majority of my carrier bands. That being said the 6gb 128gb option is very appealing but for me it was not available with the snapdragon as of now.
marcowong_7 said:
What is the biggest differences between the UIS7862 and snapdragon 625? Based on every metric I could find, the snapdragon 625 is an older and inferior cpu in every way. Am I missing something? Why is it more expensive?
Processor Comparison - Head 2 Head
UNISOC T610 vs Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 - Benchmarks, Tests and Comparisons
www.notebookcheck.net
Qualcomm MSM8953 Snapdragon 625 vs Unisoc UIS7862 Benchmarks, Specs, Performance Comparison and Differences - GadgetVersus
Comparison between Qualcomm MSM8953 Snapdragon 625 and Unisoc UIS7862 with the specifications of the processors, the number of cores, threads, cache memory, also the performance in benchmark platforms such as Geekbench, Passmark, Cinebench or AnTuTu.
gadgetversus.com
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The difference in performance should not be anything drastic unless you are planning on doing some video rendering or gaming on the head unit I doubt you would run into issues with either. 4gb or ram should be good enough for streaming on multiple apps I used it with i heart radio and tune in radio as well as YouTube music no issues while swapping between apps. The main difference and why I went with the snapdragon was better support of the US cellular bands.
https://imgur.com/a/R1ml7RN
Here are some updated pictures. Don't judge but i MacGyverd the bracket to extend the screen out from the dash radio hole, all it's missing is some insulation foam to keep dust from getting into the radio internals. Also will be uploading some videos taken earlier today.
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Hello i receveid mine JY-UQS80N4G-GT
Joying 8 Inch Qualcomm Snapdragon Chip 1 Din Head unit With New User Interface
root easy with this https://github.com/KswCarProject/KswRooting
launcher is specific ( laucher4 witstech )
At this moment no comment not in car
Gotten the Joying 10.1 Inch Snapdragon! will be installing and test it out soon!
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Hello i receveid mine JY-UQS80N4G-GT
Joying 8 Inch Qualcomm Snapdragon Chip 1 Din Head unit With New User Interface
root easy with this https://github.com/KswCarProject/KswRooting
launcher is specific ( laucher4 witstech )
At this moment no comment not in car
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I've always wondered what are the perks to rooting these head units. I haven't rooted anything since my note 4, back then there were a lot of perks to root access, what would be a few examples of things you could do with root on these?
marcowong_7 said:
What is the biggest differences between the UIS7862 and snapdragon 625? Based on every metric I could find, the snapdragon 625 is an older and inferior cpu in every way. Am I missing something? Why is it more expensive?
Processor Comparison - Head 2 Head
UNISOC T610 vs Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 - Benchmarks, Tests and Comparisons
www.notebookcheck.net
Qualcomm MSM8953 Snapdragon 625 vs Unisoc UIS7862 Benchmarks, Specs, Performance Comparison and Differences - GadgetVersus
Comparison between Qualcomm MSM8953 Snapdragon 625 and Unisoc UIS7862 with the specifications of the processors, the number of cores, threads, cache memory, also the performance in benchmark platforms such as Geekbench, Passmark, Cinebench or AnTuTu.
gadgetversus.com
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Because a fool and their money are easily parted
rudy626 said:
I've always wondered what are the perks to rooting these head units. I haven't rooted anything since my note 4, back then there were a lot of perks to root access, what would be a few examples of things you could do with root on these?
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I use it for change boot animation, who it on /system ( need to remount in RW ).
lowridincrew said:
Just was browsing around and came across it. First by them and a new launcher that's definitely better than all their others as far as I can tell from the pictures
Joying 8" Qualcomm Snapdragon 2Din Car GPS With 2021 Newest Designed User Interface
SKU: JY-UQD80N4G-GTShip From: Chinese WarehouseCPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8953 Octa Core Cortex-A53 Ram: LPDDR4 4GB Rom:EMMC 64GBSupport Bluetooth, WiFi, DVR, OBD2, Back-Up Camera
www.joyingauto.com
New Released Qualcomm Snapdragon 10.1" Car Music Media Supports 4G module
SKU: JY-UQD10N4G-GTShip From: Chinese WarehouseCPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8953 Octa Core Cortex-A53 Ram: LPDDR4 4GB Rom:EMMC 64GBSupport Bluetooth, WiFi, DVR, OBD2, Back-Up Camera
www.joyingauto.com
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What's the panel type for these units? I'd hate to spend that much and have bad viewing angles or poor sunlight visibility.