https://androidandme.com/2018/02/news/honor-8-may-still-receive-an-oreo-update/
At this point, I don't know what to think...or believe.
kandelai said:
https://androidandme.com/2018/02/news/honor-8-may-still-receive-an-oreo-update/
At this point, I don't know what to think...or believe.
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EMUI8 is not the same as Android 8.
STOP MAKING A DIFFERENT POST FOR THE SAME TOPIC EVERY TIME!
my god
Another post. Omg.
zinko_pt said:
EMUI8 is not the same as Android 8.
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gnondpomme said:
I don't know for treble but I am 100% sure honor 8 will get oreo and EMUI 8 this has been confirmed to me by the honor french twitter account
here is a picture of the conversation (yes in french ... ) :
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At least not in France. ("L'un ne va pas sans l'autre. Vous aurez bien Oreo avec EMUI 8!" in English: One does not go without the other. You will have Oreo with Android 8!)
zinko_pt said:
EMUI8 is not the same as Android 8.
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Do you have anything to support this claim?
Viva la France!
flip360 said:
Do you have anything to support this claim?
Viva la France!
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I think the names EMUI (skin) and OREO (OS) really gives it away.
You can have a skin looking like Oreo without having the OS, just the looks.
zinko_pt said:
I think the names EMUI (skin) and OREO (OS) really gives it away.
You can have a skin looking like Oreo without having the OS, just the looks.
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If the image doesn't say the fact clearly, Honor France can repeat it. ("L'un ne va pas sans l'autre. Vous aurez bien Oreo avec EMUI 8!" in English:
One does not go without the other. You will have Oreo with EMUI 8!)
ThePS4Gamer said:
If the image doesn't say the fact clearly, Honor France can repeat it. ("L'un ne va pas sans l'autre. Vous aurez bien Oreo avec EMUI 8!" in English:
One does not go without the other. You will have Oreo with EMUI 8!)
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Thank you , I do speak French.
One does not go without the other one means they're different things, otherwise the answer would be that they're the same.
It's self-explanatory. Like a skin is not the same a OS (e.g. Miui from Xiaomi), a sheep is not the same as a horse.
This Oreo speculation is a wast of time. Confusing a skin with a OS is a mistake.
But if you want to be right about whatever you're saying, be my guest.
zinko_pt said:
Thank you , I do speak French.
One does not go without the other one means they're different things, otherwise the answer would be that they're the same.
It's self-explanatory. Like a skin is not the same a OS (e.g. Miui from Xiaomi), a sheep is not the same as a horse.
This Oreo speculation is a wast of time. Confusing a skin with a OS is a mistake.
But if you want to be right about whatever you're saying, be my guest.
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No clue what u are saying but they literally said one doesn't go without the other. Emui 8 doesnt launch without Oreo meaning that if what they said is true then we are getting both and not just emui 8.
zinko_pt said:
Thank you , I do speak French.
One does not go without the other one means they're different things, otherwise the answer would be that they're the same.
It's self-explanatory. Like a skin is not the same a OS (e.g. Miui from Xiaomi), a sheep is not the same as a horse.
This Oreo speculation is a wast of time. Confusing a skin with a OS is a mistake.
But if you want to be right about whatever you're saying, be my guest.
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But if they were to port the features of EMUI 8 they would do it to EMUI 5 or 5.1. It would be a tremendous waste of resources to base EMUI on Nougat (Which hasn't been done). Honor would be better off delivering Oreo than trying to port it onto Nougat.
So I personally feel EMUI 8 will infact be Oreo.
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zinko_pt said:
Thank you , I do speak French.
One does not go without the other one means they're different things, otherwise the answer would be that they're the same.
It's self-explanatory. Like a skin is not the same a OS (e.g. Miui from Xiaomi), a sheep is not the same as a horse.
This Oreo speculation is a wast of time. Confusing a skin with a OS is a mistake.
But if you want to be right about whatever you're saying, be my guest.
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You sound a little bit delusional, but dont worry, not everybody can wrap their head around the FACT that EMUI8 as a skin is built on top of Android 8 as an OS.
Keep it up and maybe we get things a little bit clearer for you. Maybe.
flip360 said:
You sound a little bit delusional, but dont worry, not everybody can wrap their head around the FACT that EMUI8 as a skin is built on top of Android 8 as an OS.
Keep it up and maybe we get things a little bit clearer for you. Maybe.
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Do you care to reformulate it and include some manners?
I dont see that i said anything offensive so if you are feeling that i offended you in some way i could offer to you my appologies, but for now i'll just reformulate whats abundantly clear, EMUI8 is built on Android 8, how clearer can this sound?
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Do you care to reformulate it and include some manners?
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He wasn't rude and what he said is as clear as day. It's not our fault u don't know english
flip360 said:
I dont see that i said anything offensive so if you are feeling that i offended you in some way i could offer to you my appologies, but for now i'll just reformulate whats abundantly clear, EMUI8 is built on Android 8, how clearer can this sound?
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People can disagree and still maintain an elevated level of communication. Being rude adds nothing to your point of view.
Hope you agree on that.
Moving on, I never said EMUI8 wasn't build on top of Android 8. My single point is that a skin is not the same thing as an OS. I provided an evidence (MIUI - Xiaomi, but Honor/Huawei Emui should suffice for that purpose). You are yet to provide an evidence that points the contrary.
Official statement from a Honor PR a article said that some functions of EMUI8 could be ported to Honor8. Later this was contradicted by the info (tweet?) from Honor FR saying Honor 8 will receive EMUI8 plus Oreo and one thing does not goe without the other.
Now I understand this might lead to some confusion, as a skin is not being separable of a OS (check MIUI again, that is based in different OS versions), but technically is possible.
But on the other hand, EMUI8 might be built in a way that cannot work without Android Oreo. Which is fine if it's the way it's built. But again, just to be perfectly clear, a skin is not the same thing as the OS.
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He wasn't rude and what he said is as clear as day. It's not our fault u don't know english
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Care to add with something more substantial than a #metoo and a wrong judgement of my English level?
Honor France said 'One does not go without the other. You will have Oreo with EMUI 8!' assuming the translation is correct. How is it ambiguous about whether or not we are getting EMUI 8 and Oreo? Yes they are different things but the message from Honor France is they they go together and we are getting both.
Have Honor ever released a new version of the EMUI skin on top of an existing android version? My only experience of the brand is the Honor 8 going from Marshmallow/EMUI4 to Nougat/EMUI5. Plus Honor have made the decision to skip EMUI 6&7 to align the EMUI version with the Android version, why do that and then put EMUI8 on top of Nougat?
I realise they haven't mentioned treble at all but it's already been said elsewhere that they pretty much write their software in that way anyway, it makes sense to do that as it makes it easier to upgrade the android version. Plus the Mate 9 version of Oreo features project treble.
zinko_pt said:
I provided an evidence (MIUI - Xiaomi, but Honor/Huawei Emui should suffice for that purpose). You are yet to provide an evidence that points the contrary.
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Question.
You provided zero evidence only mentioning MIUI/Xiaomi (which we all know is being built on same Android versions) as the only manufacturer that does this, which in return you pin to EMUI saying its the same, but its clear that you are wrong. Read up a little on how EMUI is built.
mattyboyo said:
Have Honor ever released a new version of the EMUI skin on top of an existing android version? Honor have made the decision to skip EMUI 6&7 to align the EMUI version with the Android version, why do that and then put EMUI8 on top of Nougat?
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Answer.
As mattyboyo said, Honor will certainly be going out of its way on resources and whatnot by building EMUI8 on top of Nougat especially for one phone only.
After all Honor France is just as legal as the Honor India in their announcements.
That being said i hope you understand that EMUI8 is Android 8.
Do people not understand that EMUI and Android Oreo are not the same thing? EMUI was jumped to version 8 so it would be in line with Android version numbers. It has been reported over and over that Honor 8 is getting a special version of EMUI 8 but NOT Oreo. I give up, every young kid that reads something about Oreo has to start a new thread about it. I guess it's a "Hey, look at me, I started a new thread about Oreo".
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Do people not understand that EMUI and Android Oreo are not the same thing? EMUI was jumped to version 8 so it would be in line with Android version numbers. It has been reported over and over that Honor 8 is getting a special version of EMUI 8 but NOT Oreo. I give up, every young kid that reads something about Oreo has to start a new thread about it. I guess it's a "Hey, look at me, I started a new thread about Oreo".
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Oh boy, here we go again.
Its not the kids that do not read, its users like you that interpret things wrongly.
We know that EMUI is a skin and its built on Android 8 Oreo, how hard can it be to comprehend that?
If Honor gets EMUI8 as reported then it will be Android 8 Oreo. We might not get all the EMIU8 features because the lack of AI hw which the Kirin970 cpu has got built in.
Special version just for one phone? You must be joking.
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Hello!
I will buy one Meizu MX4 and I would like to know if there is anyone who has already one to know his impresions.
I have to say that I will buy it on Aliexpress ( china Price) and not in the Meizu Mart that is $150 more expensive
Thanks
I don't own a MX4 yet but I'm following it closely.
Today I read a very positive review made by HDblog.it, an important Italian website.
They say this device has good display, loud speaker and take great pictures.
They experienced some minor software glitches, but nothing major and we know that software issues can be corrected easily.
meizu mx4
I am also interested in Meizu MX4. But I am not sure about some points.
I can buy from China, but it will be Chinese model not global market model. Global market model is much more expensive.
So what are the differences beween these 2 models? I will use it in Europe, hence can I use both models or I do have to buy the global version.
There is also a watch accesorry for MX4, do you have any details for the watch?
Do anybody know how to get this dark theme and these quick toggles, that have no text label below?
http://blog.meizu.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/App-Meizu-blog-10.jpg
negriton said:
Hello!
I will buy one Meizu MX4 and I would like to know if there is anyone who has already one to know his impresions.
I have to say that I will buy it on Aliexpress ( china Price) and not in the Meizu Mart that is $150 more expensive
Thanks
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I'm interested in the phone as well. There is review on http://chinese-smartphones.com which is pretty positive about the phone. They say the display is awesome and also very positive about the camera (which is Sony). Doubting if I will order one or stay with my Xperia Z1 compact
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Please note that the coupon will only work today.
Enjoy Guys!
I'm waiting for a MX4
I have received my Meizu MX4 yesterday!
It's very good, it works fine and today i have installed via OTA the Flyme 4.0.3I.
I use it with Nova Launcher, because i don't like very much the original launcher and i was using it in my old S3.
The camera is superlative!!!!!! I shoot a photo of my keyboard, and i see each dust element between the keys! It's awesome!
Bye
TheJackall
you got a i version with bootloader unlocked .... with intl firmware
I just receive yesterday my mx4
Ist a m460 china with C at end of the firmware, the second chinese mx4 is with U at end of firmware from china unicom m461
Both chinese phone are same hardware and band
Finally my M460 work great in france all wcdma 3G and 4g band too fdd-lte
My guess they are all the same hardware
The only different is..
Both chinese are locked bootloader.. so can flash only chinese rom (C, U or A non branded rom)
And intk version is bootloader unlocked so you can flash all firmware
Engineer mode (for checking band)
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My mx4
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custom rom
any mx4 owner here that knows any custom rom for this phone?
I hate flyme. I like the knock to wake, but this is laggy. And I can't change my default messaging app.
Thanks!
No custom room....
No custom rom yet.
But in meizu official forum, the adm agree with cyanogen developer to give the things to develop the custom rom.
So, I hope soon we wiil get a good custom rom for this lovely device
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kikuto said:
No custom rom yet.
But in meizu official forum, the adm agree with cyanogen developer to give the things to develop the custom rom.
So, I hope soon we wiil get a good custom rom for this lovely device
Sent from my Xoom 3G using XDA Premium HD app
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Are there different roms? The provider claims norwegian language, but not on my phone?
The future
leholtet said:
Are there different roms? The provider claims norwegian language, but not on my phone?
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Not yet. At the moment we have only flyme OS 4.0, by Meizu, based on Android 4.4. Soon we will have Cyanogem rom and ubuntu phone.
About norwegian language, I can't help you
Ok.. Well- i guess we need a custom rom for this phone- even a "standard" android would do.. i dont think flyme is any good at all- and their "back button" functions doesnt work.. even on google play when you watch screenshots, you cant get out of it..
Are there 100% sure that cyanogenmod will come?
For me Flyme Is bugged and lagging the phone
Anyone know the best deal for the mx4 at the moment?
kikuto said:
No custom rom yet.
But in meizu official forum, the adm agree with cyanogen developer to give the things to develop the custom rom.
So, I hope soon we wiil get a good custom rom for this lovely device
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I really doubt that you will get a huge amount on custom Roms for this phone, maybe CM, but when? This phone is designed for enjoying fast interaction, for taking nice photos, for playing in high resolution... but not for flashing Roms... Blame mediatek for not releasing the source code. I really like this phone, but the unavailability of Roms is a no go for me...
"Droidfish test" on Meizu MX4
@TheJackall @supercowz @Hwoarang04 ...everyone
Could someone 'benchmark' MX4 with Droidfish?
It could be 'top' with its MTK6595...
1) Install Droidfish on play. google:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.petero.droidfish
2) Clear all apps in background (hold home and swipe them away) and then run droidfish.
3) Press the menu button, invoke "Settings", choose "Threads" and select "Automatic", and then press back button to get back to chess board.
4) There is button with label "M" below chess board. Press it and choose "Analysis Mode". Analysis will start. Keep it running for about 1 minute.
5) After 1 minute passed, read and record the "knps": number at bottom of the screen. This is the measurement I'm interested in. This value is a number of positions searched per second (in thousands). The higher the better.
6) IMPORTANT: To force program to STOP thinking, press "M" button again, choose "Two players" so that analysis will stop. Post the results here with rom information (optional). Stock rom is preferable but other roms are welcomed.
Thank you!
K3nshiro said:
I really doubt that you will get a huge amount on custom Roms for this phone, maybe CM, but when? This phone is designed for enjoying fast interaction, for taking nice photos, for playing in high resolution... but not for flashing Roms... Blame mediatek for not releasing the source code. I really like this phone, but the unavailability of Roms is a no go for me...
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Yes, you're right, but will the Exynos of MX4 PRO release the source?
And why mediatek or any other cpu/soc producer for smartphones will not release the source code?I mean if they release the code there will be more custom stuff and it will be a good point for a smartphone android.
Hi. I own the 5.5' Idol 3 (6045Y).
This is just some information I received about three weeks ago and I just wanted to share it.
This is the official response that I got from the Alcatel One Touch team on Facebook.
I was thinking about buying the idol 3 (despite the many reviews where the laggy performance is mentioned, which is somewhat true).
Nevertheless, I bought it. For the price it has some unbeatable specs which don't quite perform as they should due to lack of optimization. If they did, this device would be excellent. Moto G (3rd gen) is the perfect example of a well optimized device which is a serious downgrade in specs compared to the Idol 3, but performs slightly better. I know because I own them both.
Still, what I was hoping for THE MOST with the Idol 3, since this is considered Alcatel's flagship model, were at least a couple of system updates. At least one for Lollipop 5.1.1.
However, now according to their official response, we're not getting that, not to mention something like Marshmallow 6.0.
I mean, even the Moto G is getting that for Christ's sake!
Very, very poor customer care. I was maybe even expecting this to some extent. But I was hoping that this brand wised up with this device.
However, Alcatel remains Alcatel, if you know what I mean. But hey, at least they were honest enough with the response.
So, there it is. Maybe this will be of some use for future buyers to think about.
P.S. I'm new to XDA and I'm posting this thread from the desktop but I can't find any option to attach the messages screenshots. If someone could tell me how to do that, that'd be great. Thanks.
Idol3Owner said:
Hi. I own the 5.5' Idol 3 (6045Y).
This is just some information I received about three weeks ago and I just wanted to share it.
This is the official response that I got from the Alcatel One Touch team on Facebook.
I was thinking about buying the idol 3 (despite the many reviews where the laggy performance is mentioned, which is somewhat true).
Nevertheless, I bought it. For the price it has some unbeatable specs which don't quite perform as they should due to lack of optimization. If they did, this device would be excellent. Moto G (3rd gen) is the perfect example of a well optimized device which is a serious downgrade in specs compared to the Idol 3, but performs slightly better. I know because I own them both.
Still, what I was hoping for THE MOST with the Idol 3, since this is considered Alcatel's flagship model, were at least a couple of system updates. At least one for Lollipop 5.1.1.
However, now according to their official response, we're not getting that, not to mention something like Marshmallow 6.0.
I mean, even the Moto G is getting that for Christ's sake!
Very, very poor customer care. I was maybe even expecting this to some extent. But I was hoping that this brand wised up with this device.
However, Alcatel remains Alcatel, if you know what I mean. But hey, at least they were honest enough with the response.
So, there it is. Maybe this will be of some use for future buyers to think about.
P.S. I'm new to XDA and I'm posting this thread from the desktop but I can't find any option to attach the messages screenshots. If someone could tell me how to do that, that'd be great. Thanks.
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I wouldn't trust Alcatel customer support to tell me what day of the week it was. There have been multiple occasions where they have told folks on this forum things that ended up being blatant lies. When I first placed my order I tried to cancel it 1 hour after I placed it because I was charged shipping where it showed free shipping...I planned to simply cancel and re-order..something that should have taken 5 minutes...I spent a week going back and forth with Alcatel telling me I needed to cancel the order with amazon even sending them screenshots showing amazon would not allow me to cancel the order and the only reason it ever was "resolved" was that the stupid thing finally shipped after a week.
Actually I can confirm TCL is working on Marshmallow for the Idol 3, the bad news is it won't be released until the end of this year.
HughJanus said:
Actually I can confirm TCL is working on Marshmallow for the Idol 3, the bad news is it won't be released until the end of this year.
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I hope you're right. How did you confirm it?
I got Marshmallow on it right now, I trust this custom rom more than TCL that makes me factory reset after every update.
Yeah, I would do research and get answers from more than one source. Before saying that Alcatel is not working on a 5.1.1 update. The person who replied on Facebook is just one source. I would email Alcatel support and see what they say when they reply. Of course this would depend on the knowledge of the person who replies, and if he/she speaks with the people that create the updates for the Idol 3.
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I hope you're right. How did you confirm it?
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Source within TCL that told me initially that they would release 5.1 but later announced they canceled their plans for 5.1 to go directly to 6.0. anyway, I prefer to wait a bit and get a really stable marshmallow rom than a somewhat buggy 5.1. most memory leaks and performance issues have been ironed out in 6.0.
Karly Johnston said:
I got Marshmallow on it right now, I trust this custom rom more than TCL that makes me factory reset after every update.
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Lol you have marshmallows on your idol 3 right now?
Karly Johnston said:
I got Marshmallow on it right now, I trust this custom rom more than TCL that makes me factory reset after every update.
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You say you have Marshmallow running right now - I am assuming you have a custom ROM - so I have a question for you - Are you able to use Android Pay with your custom ROM on your Idol3 ? Android Pay has become one of the major uses for me with my new device - and I am trying to find out if it would still work if I rooted the device and put on a custom ROM. I have heard otherwise, but since you already have a custom ROM on this device, maybe you can clear this up for me.
TIA
stl1859 said:
You say you have Marshmallow running right now - I am assuming you have a custom ROM - so I have a question for you - Are you able to use Android Pay with your custom ROM on your Idol3 ? Android Pay has become one of the major uses for me with my new device - and I am trying to find out if it would still work if I rooted the device and put on a custom ROM. I have heard otherwise, but since you already have a custom ROM on this device, maybe you can clear this up for me.
TIA
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Google does not allow custom roms to include GAPPS (Google apps) which includes google play etc...however there are various "GAPPS" available...paranoidandroid produces one for each version of android for instance...so it's a simple matter of flashing the rom first...then gapps.
famewolf said:
Google does not allow custom roms to include GAPPS (Google apps) which includes google play etc...however there are various "GAPPS" available...paranoidandroid produces one for each version of android for instance...so it's a simple matter of flashing the rom first...then gapps.
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I know I can flash gapps separately from a custom ROM - I have done it many times before. But this is not merely about flashing gapps and getting the Android Pay app on to the phone. It has been widely reported that Android Pay does not work on rooted devices. I am just looking for confirmation from someone that has this device and already has a custom ROM on it.
Alcatel/TCL support for update is totally poor... For every single model...
So I don't believe it will get 6.0
Too bad cause Idol3 5.5 is good phone and with specs could handle 6.0...
stl1859 said:
I know I can flash gapps separately from a custom ROM - I have done it many times before. But this is not merely about flashing gapps and getting the Android Pay app on to the phone. It has been widely reported that Android Pay does not work on rooted devices. I am just looking for confirmation from someone that has this device and already has a custom ROM on it.
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Given that no custom rom's have been made PUBLIC-ALLY available you'll probably have to wait a while for an answer. Google Play comes with the stock Rom and works fine. Best I can tell you for now.
stl1859 said:
I know I can flash gapps separately from a custom ROM - I have done it many times before. But this is not merely about flashing gapps and getting the Android Pay app on to the phone. It has been widely reported that Android Pay does not work on rooted devices. I am just looking for confirmation from someone that has this device and already has a custom ROM on it.
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Android Pay can work on a rooted device but not without some workarounds and not an all devices. I know this is vague but you can Google a workaround posted on Reddit.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...cs2AWiOpbIL3N_THg&sig2=n8MemJfiaZN-nsuOXK4eVQ
stl1859 said:
You say you have Marshmallow running right now - I am assuming you have a custom ROM - so I have a question for you - Are you able to use Android Pay with your custom ROM on your Idol3 ? Android Pay has become one of the major uses for me with my new device - and I am trying to find out if it would still work if I rooted the device and put on a custom ROM. I have heard otherwise, but since you already have a custom ROM on this device, maybe you can clear this up for me.
TIA
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No, Google will not allow it to work on rooted devices for security reasons.
HughJanus said:
Actually I can confirm TCL is working on Marshmallow for the Idol 3, the bad news is it won't be released until the end of this year.
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I wouldn't mind at all waiting a couple more months for Marshmallow 6. It's just that since I got the response from their official facebook page about not planning to update even to Lollipop 5.1 I remain sceptical about 6.0.
Anyway, I really hope then that you're right and I'm wrong.
Can you post a screenshot of their answer?
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Hi. I own the 5.5' Idol 3 (6045Y).
This is just some information I received about three weeks ago and I just wanted to share it.
This is the official response that I got from the Alcatel One Touch team on Facebook.
I was thinking about buying the idol 3 (despite the many reviews where the laggy performance is mentioned, which is somewhat true).
Nevertheless, I bought it. For the price it has some unbeatable specs which don't quite perform as they should due to lack of optimization. If they did, this device would be excellent. Moto G (3rd gen) is the perfect example of a well optimized device which is a serious downgrade in specs compared to the Idol 3, but performs slightly better. I know because I own them both.
Still, what I was hoping for THE MOST with the Idol 3, since this is considered Alcatel's flagship model, were at least a couple of system updates. At least one for Lollipop 5.1.1.
However, now according to their official response, we're not getting that, not to mention something like Marshmallow 6.0.
I mean, even the Moto G is getting that for Christ's sake!
Very, very poor customer care. I was maybe even expecting this to some extent. But I was hoping that this brand wised up with this device.
However, Alcatel remains Alcatel, if you know what I mean. But hey, at least they were honest enough with the response.
So, there it is. Maybe this will be of some use for future buyers to think about.
P.S. I'm new to XDA and I'm posting this thread from the desktop but I can't find any option to attach the messages screenshots. If someone could tell me how to do that, that'd be great. Thanks.
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I disagree with this post.
If you look at at the amount of Android phones out there, being upgraded to the latest (non-security) Android OS is the exception to the rule. That is why I had a Nexus phone prior to the Idol 3. Comparing a Motorola phone to an Alcatel phone is insincere as well because Google bought (and then later sold) Motorola, so in terms of treatment for updates, they get specialized treatment.
I know everyone here have the same sentiments, coming from Xperia Neo and Samsung S4, custom roms and kernels are everywhere you'll be hard press on choosing which one you'll flash. Heck you can flash at your hearts content. Even my Lenovo K860 have support but looking at 6 months after our G4 has been release few support for custom roms and kernel can be seen. We've even struggling to unlock our bootloaders, comparing to the recently released Nexus 6P maaaan their threads are flouring with development that made me think I have chosen the wrong flagship. Praying that maybe next year things will change, the promise of LG for more unlocked device will see its fruition.
i love this phone over my s4 and s6, BUT, and thats a big but, the missed touches is infuriating and i cant recommended it at all cause of it.
Simply i feel boring with G4. It's prefect phone but android without root or unlocked bootloader ! This jail. No blocks ad no customs roms no etc... Some time i thinking i take the wrong choice ?
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yes...
i'm very frustrating with this phone because it's impossible to update to MM and root with locked bootloader .... :crying:
it's horrible ,i'm disapointed ... :crying:
A MM succesfuly flashed is better than LP ....with his auto-grenify optimisations ,privacyguard....etc..and have more battery life and more touchscreen responsive...etc...
Android 6 is a good update of 5 ...but near the same thing of base.
.but i need root .
And LG firmwares are very good compared to Samsung for example...
but for customs ,in the past with GB/JB/KK ,i loved them....but i don't like at all CM politics of development with "eternal" nightlies developments with theirs too much merged ,revert parts...and when when they fix things there are other(s) bug(s)...and recursings bugs....
It's a complete regession too,with his known photo/videos apps and others compared to stock for hights devices like G4/S6/XperiaZ ...etc...
And for the future : with MM and news bootloaders more and more securised (due to "bad" criminals hackers ) ,if manufacturers will decide to don't unlock theirs devices ===> it's the end of the story of all developments ...obscur future
Now ,it seem that Chainfire and others completely fail to root these news locked devices...total unsucces at this time.... and that feel bad omen.
Why does it need support? I run stock and all parts of my phone work just fine.
Zero issues. Works as LG/Google intended.
You guys are just trying too hard. Maybe just try using your smartphone as it was intended? Seriously some of you are over analysing this and spending too much effort on it.
Just relax. It's all good.
I think this is complaining on a very high level. Things appear to be working fine out of the box. I don't understand why you would complain about not enough "modding".
And maybe you should've checked the threads on the android forums before you bought the G4, whose development seems to be so important to you. So why you didn't do that in the first place?
I'd recommend doing a few searches and information gathering before you buy a ~500€ phone, if development is such a big thing for you
daglesj said:
Why does it need support? I run stock and all parts of my phone work just fine.
Zero issues. Works as LG/Google intended.
You guys are just trying too hard. Maybe just try using your smartphone as it was intended? Seriously some of you are over analysing this and spending too much effort on it.
Just relax. It's all good.
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Agreed
I'm stock but rooted, I love this phone, it's smooth, snappy, the screen is absolutely amazing.
These days I will only flash a quality ROM, not just any old ROM simply because it exists, those days are behind me. If that's what people want then yes, they should have bought a Nexus device, as that's kind of it's main reason for being!
I will admit the bootloader situation is not good for a large proportion of users, and that may be the top reason why it isn't being taken up by many devs. Claiming it voids the warranty is misplaced as isn't that the case with every major manufacturer ? The exceptions being Nexus devices and cheap Chinese handsets (and good luck with warranty in that case anyway!)
Tbh if I want a phone that just works I would rather buy an iPhone.
If this is everything you need then YOU have bought the wrong phone.
Btw. whats wrong with the development?
There is an working offical CM13 Version with daylie updates. And even some modded CM Versions.
We have an outstanding offical CM Developer who is fixing bugs as soon as they appear.
And modded stock Roms.
LG offers an official bootloader unlock and will (as stated a lot in the forums) repair hardware failures regardless of it.
So grab your balls, unlock and enjoy.
I did and do not regret.
And blame LG for the devices that can't be unlocked but not the community or development.
I'm coming from S4 and believe me that was pure pain.
Btw. googy_anas joined the community so expect custom Kernels soon.
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LG offers an official bootloader unlock and will (as stated a lot in the forums) repair hardware failures regardless of it.
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Hmm, well if that was indeed the case then i'd be particularly interested in doing a bootloader unlock and flashing CM13. Perhaps a dumb question, but how do LG know whether the bootloader has been unlocked? When i had the original 2013 Moto G, unlocking the bootloader produced this horrible warning screen at startup, is it something similar on the G4?
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So grab your balls, unlock and enjoy.
I did and do not regret.
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Amen brother
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unlocking the bootloader produced this horrible warning screen at startup, is it something similar on the G4?
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Yes, on bootloader it says:
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Overlayed on top left in terminal font
Yeh there is a message at boot on the upper left corner.
yes...it's sure that you have reason
This G4 is fantastic too ,yes...
For me ,i just want to root this MM ...
But for to unlock a bootloader ,it's a own choice of persons and we have nothing to say about that...
The real question is : what are LG laws about warranty exactly ? like root, the hardware is not affected by this warranty or the phone is considered as "lost" in case of problem ?
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i love this phone over my s4 and s6, BUT, and thats a big but, the missed touches is infuriating and i cant recommended it at all cause of it.
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Scout around the forum and flash the latest KDZ for your region. That fixed my H815 twn of all the lag and missed touches.
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I think this is complaining on a very high level. Things appear to be working fine out of the box. I don't understand why you would complain about not enough "modding".
And maybe you should've checked the threads on the android forums before you bought the G4, whose development seems to be so important to you. So why you didn't do that in the first place?
I'd recommend doing a few searches and information gathering before you buy a ~500€ phone, if development is such a big thing for you
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As @P650SE said I would have bought an iPhone if out of the box experience were my sole reason in buying a phone. I agree that it's somewhat my fault in not looking first at the forum before I purchased my G4 but I saw the thing and it just struck me as my soul mate. It's just feel that the phone is specially made just for you. I missed the old days when few phones would come out and the support for those phones were superb. I love my G4 no doubt but looking at Nexus 6P thread got me jealous , oh also if you'll looked at LG V10 thread same goes for the people there few support vs the 6P. I'm not a dev or modder my self, I'm a flash addict you can say so forgive me if I offended you. I assume to much buying a flagship from LG maybe a nexus for me after 2 years
i feel it comes from the fact that lg locked up them selves so hard that people who dont have the int version just wont work had for it.
this is were the lg g4 falls.
i dont understand why the lg g4 oem camera can not be moved as is to a cm based
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Scout around the forum and flash the latest KDZ for your region. That fixed my H815 twn of all the lag and missed touches.
As @P650SE said I would have bought an iPhone if out of the box experience were my sole reason in buying a phone. I agree that it's somewhat my fault in not looking first at the forum before I purchased my G4 but I saw the thing and it just struck me as my soul mate. It's just feel that the phone is specially made just for you. I missed the old days when few phones would come out and the support for those phones were superb. I love my G4 no doubt but looking at Nexus 6P thread got me jealous , oh also if you'll looked at LG V10 thread same goes for the people there few support vs the 6P. I'm not a dev or modder my self, I'm a flash addict you can say so forgive me if I offended you. I assume to much buying a flagship from LG maybe a nexus for me after 2 years
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No offense here, bro. Everything cool. I can somehow understand what you're talking about. Still I think that this phone is awesome as it is out of the box. Actually you don't need to mod it, but I'm a flashaholic myself and I have no doubts, that development is kinda lame compared to other devices.
But you can't compare it to a Nexus 6P or 5X, since these are original android phones and, with that in mind, they surely have the most developers and most development out there.
It's like comparing the development of a VW Golf to a Mercedes Benz (Not talking about the expense, but about interested people, market shares etc.) and, not at least, developing for an original android phone might be easier and more worthy for developers (I'm not a developer myself, just guessing).
So don't be dissapointed. I think what's going on in the G4 threads is still enough for any person who likes to mod.
At least for h815 version. If you don't have the international model, ok, you're f**ked :laugh:
i think that we all have found this "love" ...
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i feel it comes from the fact that lg locked up them selves so hard that people who dont have the int version just wont work had for it.
this is were the lg g4 falls.
i dont understand why the lg g4 oem camera can not be moved as is to a cm based
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The same reason why most LG apps or apps from other manufacturers cannot be easyly ported. They are locked into the framework.
Afaik codeworkx said that it has to be reverse engineered which he tryed but its impossible for him to do that.
Thats why he modded the open camera instead.
We could start a bounty maybe it will attrackt some people who can do that.
it's completely useless to tweak and search to "optimise" phones with all olds tricks (external build.prop ,zip and others...) ,it's persistent in the mind of some peoples..
it was true at the begining with E/F/GB/JB systems but now the modern android versions really already have best evolutions inside....and phones are very very powerful.
I have tried things with KK but i NEVER see REAL difference ...(placebo effects ? )but in some cases it's the opposite (laggs,drains, buggs...)
Now for "geeks" like ours ,,some people continue to be fan of customs (for the style)....and others (more and more peoples in this case ! ) just want to root ...and some of these ones for xposed .
And we all represent a very big minority of phones users because generaly the consumers but a devise and normaly "just" use it without changes...a phone correctly do calls, sms ,web ,social , some games ...without all that .
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The same reason why most LG apps or apps from other manufacturers cannot be easyly ported. They are locked into the framework.
Afaik codeworkx said that it has to be reverse engineered which he tryed but its impossible for him to do that.
Thats why he modded the open camera instead.
We could start a bounty maybe it will attrackt some people who can do that.
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i think all custom rom users will join
Android O seem very impressive for especially the under the hood stuff and performance increase with running apps.
I am sure if Mate 8 Got Android 0 it would get a second life, it would feel like you would get kirin 960.
Android Nougat sucks ... it drains more batteries then marshmallow .... Marshmallow was perfect ...
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.... Marshmallow was perfect ...
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is perfect; B192 ..
I guess the answer is nO.
i started to feel that my phone slowed down. gotta rollback soon from N to MM.
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Android O seem very impressive for especially the under the hood stuff and performance increase with running apps.
I am sure if Mate 8 Got Android 0 it would get a second life, it would feel like you would get kirin 960.
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Android Nougat sucks ... it drains more batteries then marshmallow .... Marshmallow was perfect ...
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is perfect; B192 ..
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I guess the answer is nO.
i started to feel that my phone slowed down. gotta rollback soon from N to MM.
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Personally to answer at all that.
I think Marshmallow was the best for the battery.
I've no issue with Nougat, except maybe like lot, the battery is less efficient. But I don't disturb with it because it works for the day. No need more. We shouldn't wait more of a phone with a big size. Say that 'O' could be worse with its consumption. Many new systems are less energy-consuming than their predecessors.
The only thing which will do that we won't have this new system, certainly, it's because the Android system doesn't do more than one or two update(s) on the devices. In addition, like it's a phone which is not followed, no one will develop unOfficial 'O' like LineageOS or AOSP on this phone. And I regret because this phone could work fine with this OS.
Sorry to say you! YOU, ME... WE had chosen the wrong phone to hope to have lot of updates!!!!
Until now, I was with Samsung Galaxy S serie, for that, this phone was really well desserved. Only thing which disturbs me was this damn knox. Now I almost regret it.
B.R
I agree franz , mate 8 is the perfect phone with almost of non related imperfections not pertaining to the phone its self lol. This is where the p9 kernel can be adudited and run Lin. If I could run mm with now let's say oreo animations ,boot , splash, shutdown like I found from a mate 9 fw for oreo ..
Yeah mate 8 is perfect phone but Huawei sucks with update and the really need to talk with their customers ....
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Yeah mate 8 is perfect phone but Huawei sucks with update and the really need to talk with their customers ....
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Mate 7 got 3 updates, kitkat, lollipop,marshmallow, mate 8 have only got marshmallow and nougat so far so I expect one more major upgrade.
Yeah I know that ... But I don't talk about the OS jumped .... I'm talking about the os ota for region and ... update problem ... they don't fix every problem at once ... they fix 2 problem and with next update they give u 4 problem ... that's I'm talking about .... Android also security update sucks ...
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Yeah I know that ... But I don't talk about the OS jumped .... I'm talking about the os ota for region and ... update problem ... they don't fix every problem at once ... they fix 2 problem and with next update they give u 4 problem ... that's I'm talking about .... Android also security update sucks ...
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Android O promise easier upgrades for manufactures. So once on Android o it might be easier for them to upgrade to newer version also
Let's hope so
Yes , until I get new OTA for nougat c636B580 update last week . It solve the battery drain problem and it was perfect now . So guy get your latest patch or update then you will feel the different
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It is possible to get Android O.because it's GPU is same as galaxy s7(just different is in cores). Huawei reason for nougat for mate 7 was gpu.but I don't think Huawei will update mate 8 to O.
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It is possible to get Android O.because it's GPU is same as galaxy s7(just different is in cores). Huawei reason for nougat for mate 7 was gpu.but I don't think Huawei will update mate 8 to O.
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Personally I would find it very strange and also a brand suicide to not give Mate 8 Android O.
Mate 8 is still one of the most fast performing phones and have that reputation. It is a top notch device minus the camera, but not every one care about camera, it is the screen, speed of software and form factor that counts for me..and it looks damn sexy to I think (I recently modded mine to mocha brown).
I will say this if Mate 8 does not get android o I will not buy Huawei again..
In terms of Mate 7 I can understand, it still got , kit kat, then lollipop then marshmallow it was kind of a lot of updates...even though I personally think mate 7 would really had benefited from nougat and android o.
I believe Mate 8 get Android O (last update maybe). Huawei already working on new "O" system.
https://galagram.com/2017/06/kakie-smartfony-obnovyatsya-do-android-8-0/
Mate 8 should get O, because its a 64 bit processor. Android O, is built on 64bit.
I hope its module driven, that way, it'll just built itself by downloading drivers for the hardware on the phone. Updates would become very easy, and bugs with things like the camera could be squashed really quick.
I don't know if this is a reliable source, but it says that we will be getting Android O in November 2017:
https://www.gammerson.com/2017/04/list-huawei-honor-devices-getting-android-oreo-update.html
Well... Will we get Oreo? I couldn't find any info....
No chance. Huawei abandoned this model already.
I am hoping for at least the Wi-Fi Krack fix through Android security patch but I am not very optimistic.
What do you mean by wifi crack?
Do you have the same problem with slow wifi connection?
I bought this damn phone because of the dev agreement between XDA and Hahahauwei. Never again will I trust this manufacturer. Everything is in the dark. No update posts. Dev is idle because of this. Flagship killer? Nah, flagship sinker.
Kirin. It's a freaking joke.
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Hahaha no updates, no custom roms. Honor 8 is a dead phone.
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They must update our phone to Oreo. They promised to update our phone for 24 mounths. We can't agree when they don't do this.
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a long back ago,I lost my hopes , you realised it lately bro , i will never trust HONOR .
Bought this phone 2 weeks back for a wicked discount only to find the development community at a standstill. This experience has taught me that if the processor is not from Qualcomm, no matter how much the manufacturer guaruntees updates, you can't trust them. I do think the Oreo update will come though, perhaps early 2018 or something, but the dev community is very stagnant.
I've had more than my share of phones and one thing I've discovered is you can't trust any phone manufacturer. I can't speak for Iphones because I don't do and never will do Crapple.
What is it about getting Oreo ?
The phone performance on stock it's great ... Need updates the pixels are the one to buy now ... What do we expect for a 250 dls phone ?
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What is it about getting Oreo ?
The phone performance on stock it's great ... Need updates the pixels are the one to buy now ... What do we expect for a 250 dls phone ?
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Night mode and native chrome adblocker .
so what's the alternative? what phone should replace my honor 8, no high ends. it's just not worth it anymore.
Make a petition
I cant understand the need of newer software and updates from many people here. What exactly is you need so much and cant live without, from Android O?
Ok a better battery performance would be nice, but what else? I have a midrange phone that works just fine, the EMUI i find very nice, the camera is good for the money i paid.
Phones are mainly communication tools, they are made to do certain jobs and this one does em very well.
About the developer issue in the first post, yes its a pitty, there could be some roms with extra features and improvements which could come handy but...
Knives are made for us to cut things, not to sharpen them all the time.
Ps: i rooted my previus phone and put a custom rom and kernel too.
But this was because i was not satisfied with its functions. And lost a lot of time with updating/testing/waiting for bug fixes till it worked.
Then CM closed, Lineage came, phone got a mess, lost a key feature i needed, so i returned back to stock and sold the phone.
Even if there are custom roms on this one, i will keep it stock, because IT WORKS FINE for me.
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I cant understand the need of newer software and updates from many people here. What exactly is you need so much and cant live without, from Android O?
Ok a better battery performance would be nice, but what else? I have a midrange phone that works just fine, the EMUI i find very nice, the camera is good for the money i paid.
Phones are mainly communication tools, they are made to do certain jobs and this one does em very well.
About the developer issue in the first post, yes its a pitty, there could be some roms with extra features and improvements which could come handy but...
Knives are made for us to cut things, not to sharpen them all the time.
Ps: i rooted my previus phone and put a custom rom and kernel too.
But this was because i was not satisfied with its functions. And lost a lot of time with updating/testing/waiting for bug fixes till it worked.
Then CM closed, Lineage came, phone got a mess, lost a key feature i needed, so i returned back to stock and sold the phone.
Even if there are custom roms on this one, i will keep it stock, because IT WORKS FINE for me.
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well said bro.
I'm also experiment flashed almost all gimmicks of custom ROM s and tired,
lastly remained with Stock EMUI + Magisk modules , clean and fast with all functioning features.:angel:
dileepxdn said:
well said bro.
I'm also experiment flashed almost all gimmicks of custom ROM s and tired,
lastly remained with Stock EMUI + Magisk modules , clean and fast with all functioning features.:angel:
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That is because of the lack of stable ROMs. If good ROMs were available, many people would switch to those, because most people don't like EMUI or want to have the latest software
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I cant understand the need of newer software and updates from many people here. What exactly is you need so much and cant live without, from Android O?
Ok a better battery performance would be nice, but what else? I have a midrange phone that works just fine, the EMUI i find very nice, the camera is good for the money i paid.
Phones are mainly communication tools, they are made to do certain jobs and this one does em very well.
About the developer issue in the first post, yes its a pitty, there could be some roms with extra features and improvements which could come handy but...
Knives are made for us to cut things, not to sharpen them all the time.
Ps: i rooted my previus phone and put a custom rom and kernel too.
But this was because i was not satisfied with its functions. And lost a lot of time with updating/testing/waiting for bug fixes till it worked.
Then CM closed, Lineage came, phone got a mess, lost a key feature i needed, so i returned back to stock and sold the phone.
Even if there are custom roms on this one, i will keep it stock, because IT WORKS FINE for me.
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We need oreo because the future apps will have updates only for oreo in the near future.
Emui 8.0 must be on almost all huawei phones that already have Emui 5.0/5.1 because it provides a better and a stable software. Also it has some nice features like Substranium support (which i consider it very usedfull.
I understand what you mean, but having a devide with outdated android and outdated security is just useless, because you will end up having your device vulnerable to viruses/hacks.
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P9 lite 2016 users are still waiting for EMUI 5.1 or 8.0
Even honor 5x users are still waiting for EMUI 5.0
And even Honor 8/8 pro users are waiting for 8.0
Make a petition already. The world must hear our voices
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We need oreo because the future apps will have updates only for oreo in the near future.
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The future apps, in 6-7 years...
Johnny TDN said:
Emui 8.0 must be on almost all huawei phones that already have Emui 5.0/5.1 because it provides a better and a stable software.
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Software is 100% stable at the moment on FRD L-09. Better software? What for example?
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I understand what you mean, but having a devide with outdated android and outdated security is just useless, because you will end up having your device vulnerable to viruses/hacks.
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Outdated? Anroid 5 still running on many devices and doing the job, we have 7 at the moment.
Security, i will agree with you, if you make money transfers via phone its an issue. Otherways, if you dont install from unknown sources i see no big threat, never had a phone-virus.
No offense, but all i understand from all those "we want oreo,this and that" posts is "give us new toys to play"
Sure its fun, but if i like to program stuff i would get a Raspbery Pi, its much more fun.
PS. I would wait till January 2018 to see what Huawei will do. I think after updating the new models they will again give some update for Honor 8 too.
Dont think they want to lose old customers after such a good selling year.
This have nothing to do with personal preferences but with brand credibility. Once one commercial promise is broken and people accept it (keeping quiet and/or buying more from Honor/Huawei), it sets the precedent.
This year is software updates, next year they can say they offer the first screen replacement for free. Or all their phones are backdoor-access-free. Or battery usage will be optimised in the future.
It's not that promise, it's the promise itself.
Get that in your skulls.
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This have nothing to do with personal preferences but with brand credibility. Once one commercial promise is broken and people accept it (keeping quiet and/or buying more from Honor/Huawei), it sets the precedent.
This year is software updates, next year they can say they offer the first screen replacement for free. Or all their phones are backdoor-access-free. Or battery usage will be optimised in the future.
It's not that promise, it's the promise itself.
Get that in your skulls.
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The future apps, in 6-7 years...
Software is 100% stable at the moment on FRD L-09. Better software? What for example?
Outdated? Anroid 5 still running on many devices and doing the job, we have 7 at the moment.
Security, i will agree with you, if you make money transfers via phone its an issue. Otherways, if you dont install from unknown sources i see no big threat, never had a phone-virus.
No offense, but all i understand from all those "we want oreo,this and that" posts is "give us new toys to play"
Sure its fun, but if i like to program stuff i would get a Raspbery Pi, its much more fun.
PS. I would wait till January 2018 to see what Huawei will do. I think after updating the new models they will again give some update for Honor 8 too.
Dont think they want to lose old customers after such a good selling year.
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True. But if they don't maintain a phone that they promised 24 months of updates (2 os updates and the rest are for security, performance, battery and stability).
I know huawei very well and i enjoy their hard work ever since i moved from samsung (because their os is unstable and they stopped providing updates to flagshits), but if they promised os updates, they stick with it.
Still if they don't provide updates for a phone that's at least 1 year old , then for what reason we buy them if they don't get anymore support?
Johnny TDN said:
Agreed.
I know huawei very well and i enjoy their hard work ever since i moved from samsung (because their os is unstable and they stopped providing updates to flagshits), but if they promised os updates, they stick with it.
Still if they don't provide updates for a phone that's at least 1 year old , then for what reason we buy them if they don't get anymore support?
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I agree too. I moved from samsung too. But i also expect them to just give an update with security updates only, they want to sell new phones like all brands.
Time will show...
But still its the best midrange phone i ever had.
They didn't break the promise regarding software updates.
My honor 8 FRD-L04 gets an update every 3 month.
Even if they don't deliver oreo but push security updates, the promise is not broken.
yalokiy said:
They didn't break the promise regarding software updates.
My honor 8 FRD-L04 gets an update every 3 month.
Even if they don't deliver oreo but push security updates, the promise is not broken.
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True.
But emui 8.0 will bring fantastic battery and performance (due to oreo optimisations.) That's why we need it.