I bought this damn phone because of the dev agreement between XDA and Hahahauwei. Never again will I trust this manufacturer. Everything is in the dark. No update posts. Dev is idle because of this. Flagship killer? Nah, flagship sinker.
Kirin. It's a freaking joke.
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Hahaha no updates, no custom roms. Honor 8 is a dead phone.
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They must update our phone to Oreo. They promised to update our phone for 24 mounths. We can't agree when they don't do this.
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a long back ago,I lost my hopes , you realised it lately bro , i will never trust HONOR .
Bought this phone 2 weeks back for a wicked discount only to find the development community at a standstill. This experience has taught me that if the processor is not from Qualcomm, no matter how much the manufacturer guaruntees updates, you can't trust them. I do think the Oreo update will come though, perhaps early 2018 or something, but the dev community is very stagnant.
I've had more than my share of phones and one thing I've discovered is you can't trust any phone manufacturer. I can't speak for Iphones because I don't do and never will do Crapple.
What is it about getting Oreo ?
The phone performance on stock it's great ... Need updates the pixels are the one to buy now ... What do we expect for a 250 dls phone ?
luisaet82 said:
What is it about getting Oreo ?
The phone performance on stock it's great ... Need updates the pixels are the one to buy now ... What do we expect for a 250 dls phone ?
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Night mode and native chrome adblocker .
so what's the alternative? what phone should replace my honor 8, no high ends. it's just not worth it anymore.
Make a petition
I cant understand the need of newer software and updates from many people here. What exactly is you need so much and cant live without, from Android O?
Ok a better battery performance would be nice, but what else? I have a midrange phone that works just fine, the EMUI i find very nice, the camera is good for the money i paid.
Phones are mainly communication tools, they are made to do certain jobs and this one does em very well.
About the developer issue in the first post, yes its a pitty, there could be some roms with extra features and improvements which could come handy but...
Knives are made for us to cut things, not to sharpen them all the time.
Ps: i rooted my previus phone and put a custom rom and kernel too.
But this was because i was not satisfied with its functions. And lost a lot of time with updating/testing/waiting for bug fixes till it worked.
Then CM closed, Lineage came, phone got a mess, lost a key feature i needed, so i returned back to stock and sold the phone.
Even if there are custom roms on this one, i will keep it stock, because IT WORKS FINE for me.
Tomar777 said:
I cant understand the need of newer software and updates from many people here. What exactly is you need so much and cant live without, from Android O?
Ok a better battery performance would be nice, but what else? I have a midrange phone that works just fine, the EMUI i find very nice, the camera is good for the money i paid.
Phones are mainly communication tools, they are made to do certain jobs and this one does em very well.
About the developer issue in the first post, yes its a pitty, there could be some roms with extra features and improvements which could come handy but...
Knives are made for us to cut things, not to sharpen them all the time.
Ps: i rooted my previus phone and put a custom rom and kernel too.
But this was because i was not satisfied with its functions. And lost a lot of time with updating/testing/waiting for bug fixes till it worked.
Then CM closed, Lineage came, phone got a mess, lost a key feature i needed, so i returned back to stock and sold the phone.
Even if there are custom roms on this one, i will keep it stock, because IT WORKS FINE for me.
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well said bro.
I'm also experiment flashed almost all gimmicks of custom ROM s and tired,
lastly remained with Stock EMUI + Magisk modules , clean and fast with all functioning features.:angel:
dileepxdn said:
well said bro.
I'm also experiment flashed almost all gimmicks of custom ROM s and tired,
lastly remained with Stock EMUI + Magisk modules , clean and fast with all functioning features.:angel:
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That is because of the lack of stable ROMs. If good ROMs were available, many people would switch to those, because most people don't like EMUI or want to have the latest software
Tomar777 said:
I cant understand the need of newer software and updates from many people here. What exactly is you need so much and cant live without, from Android O?
Ok a better battery performance would be nice, but what else? I have a midrange phone that works just fine, the EMUI i find very nice, the camera is good for the money i paid.
Phones are mainly communication tools, they are made to do certain jobs and this one does em very well.
About the developer issue in the first post, yes its a pitty, there could be some roms with extra features and improvements which could come handy but...
Knives are made for us to cut things, not to sharpen them all the time.
Ps: i rooted my previus phone and put a custom rom and kernel too.
But this was because i was not satisfied with its functions. And lost a lot of time with updating/testing/waiting for bug fixes till it worked.
Then CM closed, Lineage came, phone got a mess, lost a key feature i needed, so i returned back to stock and sold the phone.
Even if there are custom roms on this one, i will keep it stock, because IT WORKS FINE for me.
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We need oreo because the future apps will have updates only for oreo in the near future.
Emui 8.0 must be on almost all huawei phones that already have Emui 5.0/5.1 because it provides a better and a stable software. Also it has some nice features like Substranium support (which i consider it very usedfull.
I understand what you mean, but having a devide with outdated android and outdated security is just useless, because you will end up having your device vulnerable to viruses/hacks.
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P9 lite 2016 users are still waiting for EMUI 5.1 or 8.0
Even honor 5x users are still waiting for EMUI 5.0
And even Honor 8/8 pro users are waiting for 8.0
Make a petition already. The world must hear our voices
Johnny TDN said:
We need oreo because the future apps will have updates only for oreo in the near future.
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The future apps, in 6-7 years...
Johnny TDN said:
Emui 8.0 must be on almost all huawei phones that already have Emui 5.0/5.1 because it provides a better and a stable software.
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Software is 100% stable at the moment on FRD L-09. Better software? What for example?
Johnny TDN said:
I understand what you mean, but having a devide with outdated android and outdated security is just useless, because you will end up having your device vulnerable to viruses/hacks.
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Outdated? Anroid 5 still running on many devices and doing the job, we have 7 at the moment.
Security, i will agree with you, if you make money transfers via phone its an issue. Otherways, if you dont install from unknown sources i see no big threat, never had a phone-virus.
No offense, but all i understand from all those "we want oreo,this and that" posts is "give us new toys to play"
Sure its fun, but if i like to program stuff i would get a Raspbery Pi, its much more fun.
PS. I would wait till January 2018 to see what Huawei will do. I think after updating the new models they will again give some update for Honor 8 too.
Dont think they want to lose old customers after such a good selling year.
This have nothing to do with personal preferences but with brand credibility. Once one commercial promise is broken and people accept it (keeping quiet and/or buying more from Honor/Huawei), it sets the precedent.
This year is software updates, next year they can say they offer the first screen replacement for free. Or all their phones are backdoor-access-free. Or battery usage will be optimised in the future.
It's not that promise, it's the promise itself.
Get that in your skulls.
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This have nothing to do with personal preferences but with brand credibility. Once one commercial promise is broken and people accept it (keeping quiet and/or buying more from Honor/Huawei), it sets the precedent.
This year is software updates, next year they can say they offer the first screen replacement for free. Or all their phones are backdoor-access-free. Or battery usage will be optimised in the future.
It's not that promise, it's the promise itself.
Get that in your skulls.
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Agreed.
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Tomar777 said:
The future apps, in 6-7 years...
Software is 100% stable at the moment on FRD L-09. Better software? What for example?
Outdated? Anroid 5 still running on many devices and doing the job, we have 7 at the moment.
Security, i will agree with you, if you make money transfers via phone its an issue. Otherways, if you dont install from unknown sources i see no big threat, never had a phone-virus.
No offense, but all i understand from all those "we want oreo,this and that" posts is "give us new toys to play"
Sure its fun, but if i like to program stuff i would get a Raspbery Pi, its much more fun.
PS. I would wait till January 2018 to see what Huawei will do. I think after updating the new models they will again give some update for Honor 8 too.
Dont think they want to lose old customers after such a good selling year.
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True. But if they don't maintain a phone that they promised 24 months of updates (2 os updates and the rest are for security, performance, battery and stability).
I know huawei very well and i enjoy their hard work ever since i moved from samsung (because their os is unstable and they stopped providing updates to flagshits), but if they promised os updates, they stick with it.
Still if they don't provide updates for a phone that's at least 1 year old , then for what reason we buy them if they don't get anymore support?
Johnny TDN said:
Agreed.
I know huawei very well and i enjoy their hard work ever since i moved from samsung (because their os is unstable and they stopped providing updates to flagshits), but if they promised os updates, they stick with it.
Still if they don't provide updates for a phone that's at least 1 year old , then for what reason we buy them if they don't get anymore support?
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I agree too. I moved from samsung too. But i also expect them to just give an update with security updates only, they want to sell new phones like all brands.
Time will show...
But still its the best midrange phone i ever had.
They didn't break the promise regarding software updates.
My honor 8 FRD-L04 gets an update every 3 month.
Even if they don't deliver oreo but push security updates, the promise is not broken.
yalokiy said:
They didn't break the promise regarding software updates.
My honor 8 FRD-L04 gets an update every 3 month.
Even if they don't deliver oreo but push security updates, the promise is not broken.
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True.
But emui 8.0 will bring fantastic battery and performance (due to oreo optimisations.) That's why we need it.
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Hi. I own the 5.5' Idol 3 (6045Y).
This is just some information I received about three weeks ago and I just wanted to share it.
This is the official response that I got from the Alcatel One Touch team on Facebook.
I was thinking about buying the idol 3 (despite the many reviews where the laggy performance is mentioned, which is somewhat true).
Nevertheless, I bought it. For the price it has some unbeatable specs which don't quite perform as they should due to lack of optimization. If they did, this device would be excellent. Moto G (3rd gen) is the perfect example of a well optimized device which is a serious downgrade in specs compared to the Idol 3, but performs slightly better. I know because I own them both.
Still, what I was hoping for THE MOST with the Idol 3, since this is considered Alcatel's flagship model, were at least a couple of system updates. At least one for Lollipop 5.1.1.
However, now according to their official response, we're not getting that, not to mention something like Marshmallow 6.0.
I mean, even the Moto G is getting that for Christ's sake!
Very, very poor customer care. I was maybe even expecting this to some extent. But I was hoping that this brand wised up with this device.
However, Alcatel remains Alcatel, if you know what I mean. But hey, at least they were honest enough with the response.
So, there it is. Maybe this will be of some use for future buyers to think about.
P.S. I'm new to XDA and I'm posting this thread from the desktop but I can't find any option to attach the messages screenshots. If someone could tell me how to do that, that'd be great. Thanks.
Idol3Owner said:
Hi. I own the 5.5' Idol 3 (6045Y).
This is just some information I received about three weeks ago and I just wanted to share it.
This is the official response that I got from the Alcatel One Touch team on Facebook.
I was thinking about buying the idol 3 (despite the many reviews where the laggy performance is mentioned, which is somewhat true).
Nevertheless, I bought it. For the price it has some unbeatable specs which don't quite perform as they should due to lack of optimization. If they did, this device would be excellent. Moto G (3rd gen) is the perfect example of a well optimized device which is a serious downgrade in specs compared to the Idol 3, but performs slightly better. I know because I own them both.
Still, what I was hoping for THE MOST with the Idol 3, since this is considered Alcatel's flagship model, were at least a couple of system updates. At least one for Lollipop 5.1.1.
However, now according to their official response, we're not getting that, not to mention something like Marshmallow 6.0.
I mean, even the Moto G is getting that for Christ's sake!
Very, very poor customer care. I was maybe even expecting this to some extent. But I was hoping that this brand wised up with this device.
However, Alcatel remains Alcatel, if you know what I mean. But hey, at least they were honest enough with the response.
So, there it is. Maybe this will be of some use for future buyers to think about.
P.S. I'm new to XDA and I'm posting this thread from the desktop but I can't find any option to attach the messages screenshots. If someone could tell me how to do that, that'd be great. Thanks.
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I wouldn't trust Alcatel customer support to tell me what day of the week it was. There have been multiple occasions where they have told folks on this forum things that ended up being blatant lies. When I first placed my order I tried to cancel it 1 hour after I placed it because I was charged shipping where it showed free shipping...I planned to simply cancel and re-order..something that should have taken 5 minutes...I spent a week going back and forth with Alcatel telling me I needed to cancel the order with amazon even sending them screenshots showing amazon would not allow me to cancel the order and the only reason it ever was "resolved" was that the stupid thing finally shipped after a week.
Actually I can confirm TCL is working on Marshmallow for the Idol 3, the bad news is it won't be released until the end of this year.
HughJanus said:
Actually I can confirm TCL is working on Marshmallow for the Idol 3, the bad news is it won't be released until the end of this year.
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I hope you're right. How did you confirm it?
I got Marshmallow on it right now, I trust this custom rom more than TCL that makes me factory reset after every update.
Yeah, I would do research and get answers from more than one source. Before saying that Alcatel is not working on a 5.1.1 update. The person who replied on Facebook is just one source. I would email Alcatel support and see what they say when they reply. Of course this would depend on the knowledge of the person who replies, and if he/she speaks with the people that create the updates for the Idol 3.
mokash34 said:
I hope you're right. How did you confirm it?
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Source within TCL that told me initially that they would release 5.1 but later announced they canceled their plans for 5.1 to go directly to 6.0. anyway, I prefer to wait a bit and get a really stable marshmallow rom than a somewhat buggy 5.1. most memory leaks and performance issues have been ironed out in 6.0.
Karly Johnston said:
I got Marshmallow on it right now, I trust this custom rom more than TCL that makes me factory reset after every update.
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Lol you have marshmallows on your idol 3 right now?
Karly Johnston said:
I got Marshmallow on it right now, I trust this custom rom more than TCL that makes me factory reset after every update.
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You say you have Marshmallow running right now - I am assuming you have a custom ROM - so I have a question for you - Are you able to use Android Pay with your custom ROM on your Idol3 ? Android Pay has become one of the major uses for me with my new device - and I am trying to find out if it would still work if I rooted the device and put on a custom ROM. I have heard otherwise, but since you already have a custom ROM on this device, maybe you can clear this up for me.
TIA
stl1859 said:
You say you have Marshmallow running right now - I am assuming you have a custom ROM - so I have a question for you - Are you able to use Android Pay with your custom ROM on your Idol3 ? Android Pay has become one of the major uses for me with my new device - and I am trying to find out if it would still work if I rooted the device and put on a custom ROM. I have heard otherwise, but since you already have a custom ROM on this device, maybe you can clear this up for me.
TIA
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Google does not allow custom roms to include GAPPS (Google apps) which includes google play etc...however there are various "GAPPS" available...paranoidandroid produces one for each version of android for instance...so it's a simple matter of flashing the rom first...then gapps.
famewolf said:
Google does not allow custom roms to include GAPPS (Google apps) which includes google play etc...however there are various "GAPPS" available...paranoidandroid produces one for each version of android for instance...so it's a simple matter of flashing the rom first...then gapps.
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I know I can flash gapps separately from a custom ROM - I have done it many times before. But this is not merely about flashing gapps and getting the Android Pay app on to the phone. It has been widely reported that Android Pay does not work on rooted devices. I am just looking for confirmation from someone that has this device and already has a custom ROM on it.
Alcatel/TCL support for update is totally poor... For every single model...
So I don't believe it will get 6.0
Too bad cause Idol3 5.5 is good phone and with specs could handle 6.0...
stl1859 said:
I know I can flash gapps separately from a custom ROM - I have done it many times before. But this is not merely about flashing gapps and getting the Android Pay app on to the phone. It has been widely reported that Android Pay does not work on rooted devices. I am just looking for confirmation from someone that has this device and already has a custom ROM on it.
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Given that no custom rom's have been made PUBLIC-ALLY available you'll probably have to wait a while for an answer. Google Play comes with the stock Rom and works fine. Best I can tell you for now.
stl1859 said:
I know I can flash gapps separately from a custom ROM - I have done it many times before. But this is not merely about flashing gapps and getting the Android Pay app on to the phone. It has been widely reported that Android Pay does not work on rooted devices. I am just looking for confirmation from someone that has this device and already has a custom ROM on it.
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Android Pay can work on a rooted device but not without some workarounds and not an all devices. I know this is vague but you can Google a workaround posted on Reddit.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...cs2AWiOpbIL3N_THg&sig2=n8MemJfiaZN-nsuOXK4eVQ
stl1859 said:
You say you have Marshmallow running right now - I am assuming you have a custom ROM - so I have a question for you - Are you able to use Android Pay with your custom ROM on your Idol3 ? Android Pay has become one of the major uses for me with my new device - and I am trying to find out if it would still work if I rooted the device and put on a custom ROM. I have heard otherwise, but since you already have a custom ROM on this device, maybe you can clear this up for me.
TIA
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No, Google will not allow it to work on rooted devices for security reasons.
HughJanus said:
Actually I can confirm TCL is working on Marshmallow for the Idol 3, the bad news is it won't be released until the end of this year.
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I wouldn't mind at all waiting a couple more months for Marshmallow 6. It's just that since I got the response from their official facebook page about not planning to update even to Lollipop 5.1 I remain sceptical about 6.0.
Anyway, I really hope then that you're right and I'm wrong.
Can you post a screenshot of their answer?
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Idol3Owner said:
Hi. I own the 5.5' Idol 3 (6045Y).
This is just some information I received about three weeks ago and I just wanted to share it.
This is the official response that I got from the Alcatel One Touch team on Facebook.
I was thinking about buying the idol 3 (despite the many reviews where the laggy performance is mentioned, which is somewhat true).
Nevertheless, I bought it. For the price it has some unbeatable specs which don't quite perform as they should due to lack of optimization. If they did, this device would be excellent. Moto G (3rd gen) is the perfect example of a well optimized device which is a serious downgrade in specs compared to the Idol 3, but performs slightly better. I know because I own them both.
Still, what I was hoping for THE MOST with the Idol 3, since this is considered Alcatel's flagship model, were at least a couple of system updates. At least one for Lollipop 5.1.1.
However, now according to their official response, we're not getting that, not to mention something like Marshmallow 6.0.
I mean, even the Moto G is getting that for Christ's sake!
Very, very poor customer care. I was maybe even expecting this to some extent. But I was hoping that this brand wised up with this device.
However, Alcatel remains Alcatel, if you know what I mean. But hey, at least they were honest enough with the response.
So, there it is. Maybe this will be of some use for future buyers to think about.
P.S. I'm new to XDA and I'm posting this thread from the desktop but I can't find any option to attach the messages screenshots. If someone could tell me how to do that, that'd be great. Thanks.
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I disagree with this post.
If you look at at the amount of Android phones out there, being upgraded to the latest (non-security) Android OS is the exception to the rule. That is why I had a Nexus phone prior to the Idol 3. Comparing a Motorola phone to an Alcatel phone is insincere as well because Google bought (and then later sold) Motorola, so in terms of treatment for updates, they get specialized treatment.
I know everyone here have the same sentiments, coming from Xperia Neo and Samsung S4, custom roms and kernels are everywhere you'll be hard press on choosing which one you'll flash. Heck you can flash at your hearts content. Even my Lenovo K860 have support but looking at 6 months after our G4 has been release few support for custom roms and kernel can be seen. We've even struggling to unlock our bootloaders, comparing to the recently released Nexus 6P maaaan their threads are flouring with development that made me think I have chosen the wrong flagship. Praying that maybe next year things will change, the promise of LG for more unlocked device will see its fruition.
i love this phone over my s4 and s6, BUT, and thats a big but, the missed touches is infuriating and i cant recommended it at all cause of it.
Simply i feel boring with G4. It's prefect phone but android without root or unlocked bootloader ! This jail. No blocks ad no customs roms no etc... Some time i thinking i take the wrong choice ?
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yes...
i'm very frustrating with this phone because it's impossible to update to MM and root with locked bootloader .... :crying:
it's horrible ,i'm disapointed ... :crying:
A MM succesfuly flashed is better than LP ....with his auto-grenify optimisations ,privacyguard....etc..and have more battery life and more touchscreen responsive...etc...
Android 6 is a good update of 5 ...but near the same thing of base.
.but i need root .
And LG firmwares are very good compared to Samsung for example...
but for customs ,in the past with GB/JB/KK ,i loved them....but i don't like at all CM politics of development with "eternal" nightlies developments with theirs too much merged ,revert parts...and when when they fix things there are other(s) bug(s)...and recursings bugs....
It's a complete regession too,with his known photo/videos apps and others compared to stock for hights devices like G4/S6/XperiaZ ...etc...
And for the future : with MM and news bootloaders more and more securised (due to "bad" criminals hackers ) ,if manufacturers will decide to don't unlock theirs devices ===> it's the end of the story of all developments ...obscur future
Now ,it seem that Chainfire and others completely fail to root these news locked devices...total unsucces at this time.... and that feel bad omen.
Why does it need support? I run stock and all parts of my phone work just fine.
Zero issues. Works as LG/Google intended.
You guys are just trying too hard. Maybe just try using your smartphone as it was intended? Seriously some of you are over analysing this and spending too much effort on it.
Just relax. It's all good.
I think this is complaining on a very high level. Things appear to be working fine out of the box. I don't understand why you would complain about not enough "modding".
And maybe you should've checked the threads on the android forums before you bought the G4, whose development seems to be so important to you. So why you didn't do that in the first place?
I'd recommend doing a few searches and information gathering before you buy a ~500€ phone, if development is such a big thing for you
daglesj said:
Why does it need support? I run stock and all parts of my phone work just fine.
Zero issues. Works as LG/Google intended.
You guys are just trying too hard. Maybe just try using your smartphone as it was intended? Seriously some of you are over analysing this and spending too much effort on it.
Just relax. It's all good.
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Agreed
I'm stock but rooted, I love this phone, it's smooth, snappy, the screen is absolutely amazing.
These days I will only flash a quality ROM, not just any old ROM simply because it exists, those days are behind me. If that's what people want then yes, they should have bought a Nexus device, as that's kind of it's main reason for being!
I will admit the bootloader situation is not good for a large proportion of users, and that may be the top reason why it isn't being taken up by many devs. Claiming it voids the warranty is misplaced as isn't that the case with every major manufacturer ? The exceptions being Nexus devices and cheap Chinese handsets (and good luck with warranty in that case anyway!)
Tbh if I want a phone that just works I would rather buy an iPhone.
If this is everything you need then YOU have bought the wrong phone.
Btw. whats wrong with the development?
There is an working offical CM13 Version with daylie updates. And even some modded CM Versions.
We have an outstanding offical CM Developer who is fixing bugs as soon as they appear.
And modded stock Roms.
LG offers an official bootloader unlock and will (as stated a lot in the forums) repair hardware failures regardless of it.
So grab your balls, unlock and enjoy.
I did and do not regret.
And blame LG for the devices that can't be unlocked but not the community or development.
I'm coming from S4 and believe me that was pure pain.
Btw. googy_anas joined the community so expect custom Kernels soon.
Cozmos23 said:
LG offers an official bootloader unlock and will (as stated a lot in the forums) repair hardware failures regardless of it.
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Hmm, well if that was indeed the case then i'd be particularly interested in doing a bootloader unlock and flashing CM13. Perhaps a dumb question, but how do LG know whether the bootloader has been unlocked? When i had the original 2013 Moto G, unlocking the bootloader produced this horrible warning screen at startup, is it something similar on the G4?
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So grab your balls, unlock and enjoy.
I did and do not regret.
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Amen brother
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unlocking the bootloader produced this horrible warning screen at startup, is it something similar on the G4?
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Yes, on bootloader it says:
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Yeh there is a message at boot on the upper left corner.
yes...it's sure that you have reason
This G4 is fantastic too ,yes...
For me ,i just want to root this MM ...
But for to unlock a bootloader ,it's a own choice of persons and we have nothing to say about that...
The real question is : what are LG laws about warranty exactly ? like root, the hardware is not affected by this warranty or the phone is considered as "lost" in case of problem ?
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i love this phone over my s4 and s6, BUT, and thats a big but, the missed touches is infuriating and i cant recommended it at all cause of it.
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Scout around the forum and flash the latest KDZ for your region. That fixed my H815 twn of all the lag and missed touches.
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I think this is complaining on a very high level. Things appear to be working fine out of the box. I don't understand why you would complain about not enough "modding".
And maybe you should've checked the threads on the android forums before you bought the G4, whose development seems to be so important to you. So why you didn't do that in the first place?
I'd recommend doing a few searches and information gathering before you buy a ~500€ phone, if development is such a big thing for you
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As @P650SE said I would have bought an iPhone if out of the box experience were my sole reason in buying a phone. I agree that it's somewhat my fault in not looking first at the forum before I purchased my G4 but I saw the thing and it just struck me as my soul mate. It's just feel that the phone is specially made just for you. I missed the old days when few phones would come out and the support for those phones were superb. I love my G4 no doubt but looking at Nexus 6P thread got me jealous , oh also if you'll looked at LG V10 thread same goes for the people there few support vs the 6P. I'm not a dev or modder my self, I'm a flash addict you can say so forgive me if I offended you. I assume to much buying a flagship from LG maybe a nexus for me after 2 years
i feel it comes from the fact that lg locked up them selves so hard that people who dont have the int version just wont work had for it.
this is were the lg g4 falls.
i dont understand why the lg g4 oem camera can not be moved as is to a cm based
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Scout around the forum and flash the latest KDZ for your region. That fixed my H815 twn of all the lag and missed touches.
As @P650SE said I would have bought an iPhone if out of the box experience were my sole reason in buying a phone. I agree that it's somewhat my fault in not looking first at the forum before I purchased my G4 but I saw the thing and it just struck me as my soul mate. It's just feel that the phone is specially made just for you. I missed the old days when few phones would come out and the support for those phones were superb. I love my G4 no doubt but looking at Nexus 6P thread got me jealous , oh also if you'll looked at LG V10 thread same goes for the people there few support vs the 6P. I'm not a dev or modder my self, I'm a flash addict you can say so forgive me if I offended you. I assume to much buying a flagship from LG maybe a nexus for me after 2 years
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No offense here, bro. Everything cool. I can somehow understand what you're talking about. Still I think that this phone is awesome as it is out of the box. Actually you don't need to mod it, but I'm a flashaholic myself and I have no doubts, that development is kinda lame compared to other devices.
But you can't compare it to a Nexus 6P or 5X, since these are original android phones and, with that in mind, they surely have the most developers and most development out there.
It's like comparing the development of a VW Golf to a Mercedes Benz (Not talking about the expense, but about interested people, market shares etc.) and, not at least, developing for an original android phone might be easier and more worthy for developers (I'm not a developer myself, just guessing).
So don't be dissapointed. I think what's going on in the G4 threads is still enough for any person who likes to mod.
At least for h815 version. If you don't have the international model, ok, you're f**ked :laugh:
i think that we all have found this "love" ...
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i feel it comes from the fact that lg locked up them selves so hard that people who dont have the int version just wont work had for it.
this is were the lg g4 falls.
i dont understand why the lg g4 oem camera can not be moved as is to a cm based
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The same reason why most LG apps or apps from other manufacturers cannot be easyly ported. They are locked into the framework.
Afaik codeworkx said that it has to be reverse engineered which he tryed but its impossible for him to do that.
Thats why he modded the open camera instead.
We could start a bounty maybe it will attrackt some people who can do that.
it's completely useless to tweak and search to "optimise" phones with all olds tricks (external build.prop ,zip and others...) ,it's persistent in the mind of some peoples..
it was true at the begining with E/F/GB/JB systems but now the modern android versions really already have best evolutions inside....and phones are very very powerful.
I have tried things with KK but i NEVER see REAL difference ...(placebo effects ? )but in some cases it's the opposite (laggs,drains, buggs...)
Now for "geeks" like ours ,,some people continue to be fan of customs (for the style)....and others (more and more peoples in this case ! ) just want to root ...and some of these ones for xposed .
And we all represent a very big minority of phones users because generaly the consumers but a devise and normaly "just" use it without changes...a phone correctly do calls, sms ,web ,social , some games ...without all that .
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The same reason why most LG apps or apps from other manufacturers cannot be easyly ported. They are locked into the framework.
Afaik codeworkx said that it has to be reverse engineered which he tryed but its impossible for him to do that.
Thats why he modded the open camera instead.
We could start a bounty maybe it will attrackt some people who can do that.
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i think all custom rom users will join
I mean, it still packs some decent specs under that beautiful design, regardless of performance. I mean, try to buy it from their site, it won't be highlighted or something, but op2 and op3 are. Try to find some oneplus x guides, op2 guide will show up, and this goes forever, you get it. MAY I MENTION IT's august 2016, the phone came in late 2015 and we still didn't get a 6.0 update ? I bet they gave up on oneplus x and we're never gonna get a 6.0 update actually. Some shameful shi.t right here. MORE MONEY, MORE PROBLEMS I SUPPOSE. They are blinded by the tremendous success of op2 and op3 phones so they dropped oneplus x "for good". That's how i'll never stick to oneplus again.
there is no need of this anxiety, CyanogenMod already has been released marshmallow of OPX and there are many developers ROM available you can try them i would like to prefer Sultan's ROM because i am using and it is really very good and battery backup is great SoT is unbelievable 4 to 5 hours. don't worry man there is always a hope..by the way oxygen os is no so good..... sorry if my narration is not make you happy
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there is no need of this anxiety, CyanogenMod already has been released marshmallow of OPX and there are many developers ROM available you can try them i would like to prefer Sultan's ROM because i am using and it is really very good and battery backup is great SoT is unbelievable 4 to 5 hours. don't worry man there is always a hope..by the way oxygen os is no so good..... sorry if my narration is not make you happy
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yes there is need for this anxiety, cyanogenmod has been released but there is no stable version out yet, yes there are many rom's available but everyone of them has one bug or the other, i would prefer stock rom because they have almost minor to no bugs because casual users like me dont go testing every feature of the rom after flashing. why would this matter you ask then lemme give you an example from a casual user's point of view, i'm chilling with my friends & they show me some content (might be any personal song or video) & i ask them to transfer it to me via bluetooth like any casual user & i find out that the bluetooth function is broken & that would be an embarassing situation i wouldn't wanna be in.
Pls dont get me wrong im not slandering the hard work of custom rom developers, im jus stating my point as a casual user whose not interested in SoT but just wants to feel safe knowing all the features of my phone are working well.
Many of you will say stick to oxygen 2.2 if you want to feel safe but i would say my one plus x is not that old and 7.0 is about to release im not asking for the latest but atleast give me 6.0 which even cheap & crappy chinese phones come with now a days.
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yes there is need for this anxiety, cyanogenmod has been released but there is no stable version out yet, yes there are many rom's available but everyone of them has one bug or the other, i would prefer stock rom because they have almost minor to no bugs because casual users like me dont go testing every feature of the rom after flashing. why would this matter you ask then lemme give you an example from a casual user's point of view, i'm chilling with my friends & they show me some content (might be any personal song or video) & i ask them to transfer it to me via bluetooth like any casual user & i find out that the bluetooth function is broken & that would be an embarassing situation i wouldn't wanna be in.
Pls dont get me wrong im not slandering the hard work of custom rom developers, im jus stating my point as a casual user whose not interested in SoT but just wants to feel safe knowing all the features of my phone are working well.
Many of you will say stick to oxygen 2.2 if you want to feel safe but i would say my one plus x is not that old and 7.0 is about to release im not asking for the latest but atleast give me 6.0 which even cheap & crappy chinese phones come with now a days.
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give a try to Sultan's ROM you will be not disappointed, because there is no bugs everything is working fine. you can use it like casual user or if you need root access then you have to flash superSU above than 2.6 version. how it will help you else upto you
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coldfear00 said:
yes there is need for this anxiety, cyanogenmod has been released but there is no stable version out yet, yes there are many rom's available but everyone of them has one bug or the other, i would prefer stock rom because they have almost minor to no bugs because casual users like me dont go testing every feature of the rom after flashing. why would this matter you ask then lemme give you an example from a casual user's point of view, i'm chilling with my friends & they show me some content (might be any personal song or video) & i ask them to transfer it to me via bluetooth like any casual user & i find out that the bluetooth function is broken & that would be an embarassing situation i wouldn't wanna be in.
Pls dont get me wrong im not slandering the hard work of custom rom developers, im jus stating my point as a casual user whose not interested in SoT but just wants to feel safe knowing all the features of my phone are working well.
Many of you will say stick to oxygen 2.2 if you want to feel safe but i would say my one plus x is not that old and 7.0 is about to release im not asking for the latest but atleast give me 6.0 which even cheap & crappy chinese phones come with now a days.
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never gonna buy OnePlus sh*t again...
Well im not talking about particular rom developers, they are in no way linked to the company itself. They develop custom roms for plenty of devices. As far as these goes, i tried paranoid, which is incredibly nice looking but it drains my battery pretty fast with wi-fi on all the time, and i can't connect to mobile data on either of sim cards. Sultan's xda is not any different from official cm13 rom, as far as i could tell, and any other cm13 roms for different devices. It's just the same interface im fed up with it. Oxygen os is a big dissapointment, i dont like it at all. ON THE OTHER HAND, H2os is perfect for me, perfect design, incredibly long battery life, but not quite good performances. Anyway, i bought the phone mostly cause of it's very nice looking design so i got to stick with lags in google play store.
Anyway, my point still stands. They been blinded by the success of oneplus 3 so they decided to forget about oneplus x. I bet we won't get android 6.0 at all.
prabhat.singh.836 said:
never gonna buy OnePlus sh*t again...
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Lad spoke for me! :good:
i've been saying the same shiet, just more gently. This right here is just a consequence.
no offense, but i would like to say i love my phone with custom ROM and i would suggest you guys should purchase google nexus phone if you really need latest Android and i am also thinking about but i have two sim that's why i purchased OnePlus x phone because of their commitment that they will provide latest Android but they betrayed us. Unfortunately we can't do anything despite shouting...is there any options? by the way i am happy by rooting my device and i like custom ROM.
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coldfear00 said:
yes there is need for this anxiety, cyanogenmod has been released but there is no stable version out yet, yes there are many rom's available but everyone of them has one bug or the other, i would prefer stock rom because they have almost minor to no bugs because casual users like me dont go testing every feature of the rom after flashing. why would this matter you ask then lemme give you an example from a casual user's point of view, i'm chilling with my friends & they show me some content (might be any personal song or video) & i ask them to transfer it to me via bluetooth like any casual user & i find out that the bluetooth function is broken & that would be an embarassing situation i wouldn't wanna be in.
Pls dont get me wrong im not slandering the hard work of custom rom developers, im jus stating my point as a casual user whose not interested in SoT but just wants to feel safe knowing all the features of my phone are working well.
Many of you will say stick to oxygen 2.2 if you want to feel safe but i would say my one plus x is not that old and 7.0 is about to release im not asking for the latest but atleast give me 6.0 which even cheap & crappy chinese phones come with now a days.
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well, we got lollipop with MM-like features xD
Coldfear I can't agree more with you, that's why I stick to OOS after have tested around 5 custom roms in my phone. Simply for the rock solid signal reception, the Super fast 4G, the unbeatable photo quality (yes I've tried sultans hal, but apart from fps, nothing comes close to stock camera image quality) and the fact that as a casual user all the every day features of the Rom are readily available to me when I need them. On the other hand all devs put their best efforts to provide a features rich roms and should continue doing so, in order satisfy all kind of users. Rom choice It's really a personal matter. Everyone keep up the good work.
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A CM nightly with broken features can happen anytime, but then you flash a release from another date that corrected the casual bug. That's how its supposed to work. If you find a good build you stay with that for a month at least then update. If you are not happy with the new update you go back to the rom you were using. And with twrp everything is easy, and finish in few minutes. And lets not forget that OOS 5.1 has released many updates and users are still complaining about bugs there too. Anyway I think that OPX team has done a good job with OOS, they are still updating it in a time when everyone is focused one OP3.
OP3 is the flagship, it has just been released and has attracted a huge fan base already. Its normal it has overshadowed OPX which now is a mid-range budget phone. I think that after some months, they will put some effort on bringing a full working MM on OPX. And then , start working on OP4
I remember, when OnePlus were asked why they haveused an older chipset in OnePlus X , they said that it'll help the device to have more (unofficial) development support. I think they indirectly implied ,"OnePlus X users, we won't be updating your software since we have provided you with a chip set that is going to have a great amount of (unofficial) developer support. So, don't bother us by asking for updates and let us concentrate on our "Flagship killers" ".
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Coldfear I can't agree more with you, that's why I stick to OOS after have tested around 5 custom roms in my phone. Simply for the rock solid signal reception, the Super fast 4G, the unbeatable photo quality (yes I've tried sultans hal, but apart from fps, nothing comes close to stock camera image quality) and the fact that as a casual user all the every day features of the Rom are readily available to me when I need them. On the other hand all devs put their best efforts to provide a features rich roms and should continue doing so, in order satisfy all kind of users. Rom choice It's really a personal matter. Everyone keep up the good work.
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I have to disagree with you here.
1. Picture quality is better on SulatanXDA roms. It can be subjective, but it seems so. Even my friend semi-pro photographers said so. I don't care about 4K recording/FPS much
2. There are no bugs.
3. I get 50 Mbit/s on LTE outside of the building. It differes depending on time of the day and location obviously.
Anyway I do recommend SultanXDA rom to anyone who is looking to replace buggy (yes it is buggy and never updated!!!) OOS. Love this phone.... The only thing I hate is lack of 5GHz band for wifi (it isn't even the band as the support is there, One+ was lazy enough not to put an antenna in)
I wonder if this is the death blow for Pay if your not 100% stock and bootloader locked?
I'm stock, unlocked, custom kernel and no root.
My pay failed today and I could not figure out why, I read a thread where someone did a complete wipe and still failed saftynet. It seems that Google shut the door for Pay regardless if your rooted, you just have to be unlocked.
Any thoughts this can be worked around? Or like Chainfire said, it's just a matter of time before Google shuts the door.
Exact same issue for me this morning... I have an unlocked bootloader but since upgrading to 7.0 I haven't rooted and I am completely stock - Android Pay failed. I ran Safetynet Helper and it failed with a CTS Profile Match: False.
As far as I am aware nothing has changed on my phone between me going to sleep last night and waking up this morning...
SafetyNet is now sensing bootloader status.
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So, I know folks like Chainfire was able to always figure out someway to get things to work with root. Being its at the bootloader level, do you think its possible that folks would be able to figure something out? I suppose Google is just trying to aim more towards the general population, which I suppose I can't blame them, they are a for profit company. Between the Nexus current news, Pixel only software and now this, it seems to be getting clearer what direction they are going. How long until no financial app works if not bone stock? And what about like Netflix, PSVue, etc., really any app that does not want to allow any mods to the phone just wont work anymore.
Game over. You must submit. Stay inside the lines.
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Game over. You must submit. Stay inside the lines.
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That all just depends on the user. What's more important to you, root or AP? Do you want a more secure platform, or not? All they're really doing is forcing people to make that choice. Personally, I don't use AP very much, and when I do it's more to say, "Hey, that's cool, it works", so the choice is pretty simple for me :good:
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That all just depends on the user. What's more important to you, root or AP? Do you want a more secure platform, or not? All they're really doing is forcing people to make that choice. Personally, I don't use AP very much, and when I do it's more to say, "Hey, that's cool, it works", so the choice is pretty simple for me :good:
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My fear is that what is going to stop all apps from just building that check in and denying use? Apple has always been a walled environment, it was understood to a point, thank you Cydia. Google's implementation of Android on the Nexus was the main selling point to me. It was never the best device for me really, I have nothing but Mac's and the iPhone integrates great with the laptops, but again the open nature of the Nexus kept me hooked. It seems all the recent moves from Google is showing a different path, which I completely understand, but for me, I have to put the iPhone back at the top for my next phone, I'm not too sure what the current Android offerings do for me. Would the only way to get plain AOSP on my phone be to unlock and root? Or will I have to match my phone and software and really not be able to utilize all the available apps because if I want to mod something, I can't without possibly breaking apps? Or do I just not give a crap anymore and just smile and nod with my shiny new iPhone?
I just had this fail on me just yesterday. I unlocked bootloader, flashed stock Nougat firmware from google's dev site, left bootloader unlocked and just set up my device. Android Pay failed. Contacted Google, they told me to perform a factory reset, failed again. I just told them that I am assuming that the bootloader has to be locked in order for it to work. Locked and yes, it started working. I use AP almost on the daily, whether is be for the vending machines at the public park for when I pick up my daughter or for Uber. DAMN IT GOOGLE!!!
Interesting to note that Pokemon Go must not be using SafetyNet anymore. I flashed the developer preview images and am stock no root/custom recovery. SafetyNet fails, but PoGo still works.
I had a fail this morning in a shop I always use it,git a message saying cannot be used on this device .I'm unlocked bootloader but never rooted,on beta programme so running 7.1 but had same thing a few days ago running 7.0,prior to the AP recent update I was using it in problem in 7.0 with unlocked BL
Also how do you relock the BL ,don't flash ROMs etc anymore so may as well lock it if it allows AP
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My fear is that what is going to stop all apps from just building that check in and denying use? Apple has always been a walled environment, it was understood to a point, thank you Cydia. Google's implementation of Android on the Nexus was the main selling point to me. It was never the best device for me really, I have nothing but Mac's and the iPhone integrates great with the laptops, but again the open nature of the Nexus kept me hooked. It seems all the recent moves from Google is showing a different path, which I completely understand, but for me, I have to put the iPhone back at the top for my next phone, I'm not too sure what the current Android offerings do for me. Would the only way to get plain AOSP on my phone be to unlock and root? Or will I have to match my phone and software and really not be able to utilize all the available apps because if I want to mod something, I can't without possibly breaking apps? Or do I just not give a crap anymore and just smile and nod with my shiny new iPhone?
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Not sure Googles selling point was ever rooting and modding , the selling point of Nexus for me was a clean OS , fast and smooth, updates etc. rooting / modding was a bonus, Android as a whole still offers a tonne more options for customization and utility than the iPhone even without rooting.
For me Root and custom ROMs are slowely dying imo anyways, not much need for me to root anymore . again this is just my opinion, but i never get why people are like " oh no root ?back to iPhone then" really? like that's the other difference, youre going back to a much much more locked down OS because you can't have root ?
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Not sure Googles selling point was ever rooting and modding , the selling point of Nexus for me was a clean OS , fast and smooth, updates etc. rooting / modding was a bonus, Android as a whole still offers a tonne more options for customization and utility than the iPhone even without rooting.
For me Root and custom ROMs are slowely dying imo anyways, not much need for me to root anymore . again this is just my opinion, but i never get why people are like " oh no root ?back to iPhone then" really? like that's the other difference, youre going back to a much much more locked down OS because you can't have root ?
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Thanks for the comments, they did make me think. I 100% agree with you regarding root, since N I've not rooted and kept pretty much to stock with the exception of a custom kernel.
So for me that's not the issue as much as this bl check. Here's my issue in a nutshell; last week I wanted to try Google Assist on my phone, not a problem. The zip did not touch anything that broke Pay. Bring that forward say a year. Now 50% of the apps check bl and if unlocked, no dice. If Google really wanted Assist to only be on the Pixel, check and see if unlocked and it just does not function. That's my issue. I also understand completely why Google is doing what they are doing, I think they could of gave a nod to us folks by maybe making you initial your OK with all that unlocking the bl'er signifies, you get my point.
I also agree with you regarding ROM's, Googles ui has become feature friendly enough where I've not bothered to flash any ROM, once I add LMT pie I'm pretty happy. As for IOS, the main selling point to me is the tight integration with the other devices, right now I use Pushbullet to get close to the same level of integration. My wife and kids also are iPhone users and no need to discuss Googles abortive messaging issues.
Last comment; I'm not getting rid of my 6P so fast, what this does is simply put the iPhone back in what I would think about getting when I'm ready. Whereas before I would not even consider it.
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Thanks for the comments, they did make me think. I 100% agree with you regarding root, since N I've not rooted and kept pretty much to stock with the exception of a custom kernel.
So for me that's not the issue as much as this bl check. Here's my issue in a nutshell; last week I wanted to try Google Assist on my phone, not a problem. The zip did not touch anything that broke Pay. Bring that forward say a year. Now 50% of the apps check bl and if unlocked, no dice. If Google really wanted Assist to only be on the Pixel, check and see if unlocked and it just does not function. That's my issue.
I also agree with you regarding ROM's, Googles ui has become feature friendly enough where I've not bothered to flash any ROM, once I add LMT pie I'm pretty happy. As for IOS, the main selling point to me is the tight integration with the other devices, right now I use Pushbullet to get close to the same level of integration. My wife and kids also are iPhone users and no need to discuss Googles abortive messaging issues.
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Fair points, unfortunately the majority of people on Android are not us on xda... unlocking bootloader is a vulnerability in itself, it allows for custom recoverys. People want more security but that comes at a price.
I do get your point though. I either case, I've just locked my bootloader this morning, had to start fresh but wasn't too bad, Android pay working of course
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Question for you guys. I am coming from the S5 with a locked BL. my previous was the s3 and it was all kinds of unlocked. Very fun device back in the day. I JUST got my 6p and have unlocked it and rooted it. I added google assistant and maybe plan a few aesthetic mods like a circle battery. Maybe do the pixel experience. other than that, I dont plan to do much more customization. Keep it pretty stock. I rooted for the ad blocking and mobile hot spot. so big question is can I re-lock the bootloader and keep root? If so, then I do understand that i need to wipe to re-unlock it again. thanks,
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Prior to the update to AP I used it on my phone in the 15 th no problem,now I get this .Never been rooted but BL is unlocked.Going to relock the BL
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Relocked my bootloader and working again
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Relocked my bootloader and working again
did relocking wipe your phone or no? i know that unlocking for sure wipes, but haven't found a definitive answer regarding relocking. thanks.
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Yes relocking wipes the phone and you must be stock rom and recovery prior to moving or it will brick
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Fair points, unfortunately the majority of people on Android are not us on xda... unlocking bootloader is a vulnerability in itself, it allows for custom recoverys. People want more security but that comes at a price.
I do get your point though. I either case, I've just locked my bootloader this morning, had to start fresh but wasn't too bad, Android pay working of course
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The unlocked bootloader indicates a huge risk. Even more then root. The volume of malicious android apps is growing at an alarming rate. With an unlocked bootloader it is possible to install a malicious app, but also to root, change the OS (as in a rootkit) so that everythng appears normal, but in reality everything in the OS is compromised. Root can then be removed or 100% hidden.
Google is avoiding the financial risk as best as possible - so looking for an unlocked bootloader is a better indicator then looking for root. It may indicate a false positive for some, but it protects AP 100%.
Google doesn't want the financial insecurities that exist in the desktop world - on all platforms (mac, linux, and windows).
https://androidandme.com/2018/02/news/honor-8-may-still-receive-an-oreo-update/
At this point, I don't know what to think...or believe.
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https://androidandme.com/2018/02/news/honor-8-may-still-receive-an-oreo-update/
At this point, I don't know what to think...or believe.
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EMUI8 is not the same as Android 8.
STOP MAKING A DIFFERENT POST FOR THE SAME TOPIC EVERY TIME!
my god
Another post. Omg.
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EMUI8 is not the same as Android 8.
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gnondpomme said:
I don't know for treble but I am 100% sure honor 8 will get oreo and EMUI 8 this has been confirmed to me by the honor french twitter account
here is a picture of the conversation (yes in french ... ) :
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At least not in France. ("L'un ne va pas sans l'autre. Vous aurez bien Oreo avec EMUI 8!" in English: One does not go without the other. You will have Oreo with Android 8!)
zinko_pt said:
EMUI8 is not the same as Android 8.
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Do you have anything to support this claim?
Viva la France!
flip360 said:
Do you have anything to support this claim?
Viva la France!
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I think the names EMUI (skin) and OREO (OS) really gives it away.
You can have a skin looking like Oreo without having the OS, just the looks.
zinko_pt said:
I think the names EMUI (skin) and OREO (OS) really gives it away.
You can have a skin looking like Oreo without having the OS, just the looks.
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If the image doesn't say the fact clearly, Honor France can repeat it. ("L'un ne va pas sans l'autre. Vous aurez bien Oreo avec EMUI 8!" in English:
One does not go without the other. You will have Oreo with EMUI 8!)
ThePS4Gamer said:
If the image doesn't say the fact clearly, Honor France can repeat it. ("L'un ne va pas sans l'autre. Vous aurez bien Oreo avec EMUI 8!" in English:
One does not go without the other. You will have Oreo with EMUI 8!)
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Thank you , I do speak French.
One does not go without the other one means they're different things, otherwise the answer would be that they're the same.
It's self-explanatory. Like a skin is not the same a OS (e.g. Miui from Xiaomi), a sheep is not the same as a horse.
This Oreo speculation is a wast of time. Confusing a skin with a OS is a mistake.
But if you want to be right about whatever you're saying, be my guest.
zinko_pt said:
Thank you , I do speak French.
One does not go without the other one means they're different things, otherwise the answer would be that they're the same.
It's self-explanatory. Like a skin is not the same a OS (e.g. Miui from Xiaomi), a sheep is not the same as a horse.
This Oreo speculation is a wast of time. Confusing a skin with a OS is a mistake.
But if you want to be right about whatever you're saying, be my guest.
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No clue what u are saying but they literally said one doesn't go without the other. Emui 8 doesnt launch without Oreo meaning that if what they said is true then we are getting both and not just emui 8.
zinko_pt said:
Thank you , I do speak French.
One does not go without the other one means they're different things, otherwise the answer would be that they're the same.
It's self-explanatory. Like a skin is not the same a OS (e.g. Miui from Xiaomi), a sheep is not the same as a horse.
This Oreo speculation is a wast of time. Confusing a skin with a OS is a mistake.
But if you want to be right about whatever you're saying, be my guest.
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But if they were to port the features of EMUI 8 they would do it to EMUI 5 or 5.1. It would be a tremendous waste of resources to base EMUI on Nougat (Which hasn't been done). Honor would be better off delivering Oreo than trying to port it onto Nougat.
So I personally feel EMUI 8 will infact be Oreo.
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
zinko_pt said:
Thank you , I do speak French.
One does not go without the other one means they're different things, otherwise the answer would be that they're the same.
It's self-explanatory. Like a skin is not the same a OS (e.g. Miui from Xiaomi), a sheep is not the same as a horse.
This Oreo speculation is a wast of time. Confusing a skin with a OS is a mistake.
But if you want to be right about whatever you're saying, be my guest.
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You sound a little bit delusional, but dont worry, not everybody can wrap their head around the FACT that EMUI8 as a skin is built on top of Android 8 as an OS.
Keep it up and maybe we get things a little bit clearer for you. Maybe.
flip360 said:
You sound a little bit delusional, but dont worry, not everybody can wrap their head around the FACT that EMUI8 as a skin is built on top of Android 8 as an OS.
Keep it up and maybe we get things a little bit clearer for you. Maybe.
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Do you care to reformulate it and include some manners?
I dont see that i said anything offensive so if you are feeling that i offended you in some way i could offer to you my appologies, but for now i'll just reformulate whats abundantly clear, EMUI8 is built on Android 8, how clearer can this sound?
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Do you care to reformulate it and include some manners?
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He wasn't rude and what he said is as clear as day. It's not our fault u don't know english
flip360 said:
I dont see that i said anything offensive so if you are feeling that i offended you in some way i could offer to you my appologies, but for now i'll just reformulate whats abundantly clear, EMUI8 is built on Android 8, how clearer can this sound?
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People can disagree and still maintain an elevated level of communication. Being rude adds nothing to your point of view.
Hope you agree on that.
Moving on, I never said EMUI8 wasn't build on top of Android 8. My single point is that a skin is not the same thing as an OS. I provided an evidence (MIUI - Xiaomi, but Honor/Huawei Emui should suffice for that purpose). You are yet to provide an evidence that points the contrary.
Official statement from a Honor PR a article said that some functions of EMUI8 could be ported to Honor8. Later this was contradicted by the info (tweet?) from Honor FR saying Honor 8 will receive EMUI8 plus Oreo and one thing does not goe without the other.
Now I understand this might lead to some confusion, as a skin is not being separable of a OS (check MIUI again, that is based in different OS versions), but technically is possible.
But on the other hand, EMUI8 might be built in a way that cannot work without Android Oreo. Which is fine if it's the way it's built. But again, just to be perfectly clear, a skin is not the same thing as the OS.
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Ultimatez906 said:
He wasn't rude and what he said is as clear as day. It's not our fault u don't know english
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Care to add with something more substantial than a #metoo and a wrong judgement of my English level?
Honor France said 'One does not go without the other. You will have Oreo with EMUI 8!' assuming the translation is correct. How is it ambiguous about whether or not we are getting EMUI 8 and Oreo? Yes they are different things but the message from Honor France is they they go together and we are getting both.
Have Honor ever released a new version of the EMUI skin on top of an existing android version? My only experience of the brand is the Honor 8 going from Marshmallow/EMUI4 to Nougat/EMUI5. Plus Honor have made the decision to skip EMUI 6&7 to align the EMUI version with the Android version, why do that and then put EMUI8 on top of Nougat?
I realise they haven't mentioned treble at all but it's already been said elsewhere that they pretty much write their software in that way anyway, it makes sense to do that as it makes it easier to upgrade the android version. Plus the Mate 9 version of Oreo features project treble.
zinko_pt said:
I provided an evidence (MIUI - Xiaomi, but Honor/Huawei Emui should suffice for that purpose). You are yet to provide an evidence that points the contrary.
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Question.
You provided zero evidence only mentioning MIUI/Xiaomi (which we all know is being built on same Android versions) as the only manufacturer that does this, which in return you pin to EMUI saying its the same, but its clear that you are wrong. Read up a little on how EMUI is built.
mattyboyo said:
Have Honor ever released a new version of the EMUI skin on top of an existing android version? Honor have made the decision to skip EMUI 6&7 to align the EMUI version with the Android version, why do that and then put EMUI8 on top of Nougat?
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Answer.
As mattyboyo said, Honor will certainly be going out of its way on resources and whatnot by building EMUI8 on top of Nougat especially for one phone only.
After all Honor France is just as legal as the Honor India in their announcements.
That being said i hope you understand that EMUI8 is Android 8.
Do people not understand that EMUI and Android Oreo are not the same thing? EMUI was jumped to version 8 so it would be in line with Android version numbers. It has been reported over and over that Honor 8 is getting a special version of EMUI 8 but NOT Oreo. I give up, every young kid that reads something about Oreo has to start a new thread about it. I guess it's a "Hey, look at me, I started a new thread about Oreo".
Tel864 said:
Do people not understand that EMUI and Android Oreo are not the same thing? EMUI was jumped to version 8 so it would be in line with Android version numbers. It has been reported over and over that Honor 8 is getting a special version of EMUI 8 but NOT Oreo. I give up, every young kid that reads something about Oreo has to start a new thread about it. I guess it's a "Hey, look at me, I started a new thread about Oreo".
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Oh boy, here we go again.
Its not the kids that do not read, its users like you that interpret things wrongly.
We know that EMUI is a skin and its built on Android 8 Oreo, how hard can it be to comprehend that?
If Honor gets EMUI8 as reported then it will be Android 8 Oreo. We might not get all the EMIU8 features because the lack of AI hw which the Kirin970 cpu has got built in.
Special version just for one phone? You must be joking.