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Samsung GALAXY Beam

http://software2tech.com/2012/02/26...echnology-to-android-smartphones-galaxy-beam/

http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-13970_7-10011428.html?tag=mncol

Seems cool but its such a niche market they are targeting.

Probably more than likely targeted for the Asian/Korean market. They had a previous model by the same or similar name last year.
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Well they called the Note a niche, now it seems pretty popular. But yeah this one will be niche, I don't care, if its not overpriced I will get it. Bigger screen is always a welcome.
I predict future phones will all have projecting ability.

didnt they release this phone like 2 years ago ?
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found it
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i8520_galaxy_beam-3150.php
released july 2010

sandyph said:
didnt they release this phone like 2 years ago ?
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LG released a projector phone a couple of years back.
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eksasol said:
Well they called the Note a niche, now it seems pretty popular. But yeah this one will be niche, I don't care, if its not overpriced I will get it. Bigger screen is always a welcome.
I predict future phones will all have projecting ability.
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The screen is only 4", but you're probably talking about the projected image. But if you're thinking the projected image is going to look even remotely good enough to "enjoy" you're fooling yourself - 15 lumens is pretty weak. And on top of that battery life is probably going to be dismal, other features will definitely be removed or skimped on to make room for the projector (and to keep the cost down), and Samsung will abandon this thing update-wise faster than you can say "Samsung will abandon this thing update-wise". For all those reasons I wouldn't touch this thing with a 10' pole. The more I think about it, you have yourself a recipe for the worst phone of 2012 brewing in this thing.

This video was filmed at MWC2012 at Barcelona.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB3cFLvn9uQ
You can see the main functions and the projector. I am here for any questions.

Interesting concept but projector quality and battery life are probably lacking.

Hey!
I have used the phone for a week now and it's absolutely amazing! Here's a video review I made. I apologize for the bad quality in the dark shots, but my cameras are too average to handle it. I can assure you the image is crisp clear in complete dark rooms, but in even the slightest light you loose details and sharpness, and as you can see in my video, in the evening (it was 7 pm), you can't see a thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL3kEi40aBs
Feel free to ask questions

floiancu said:
Hey!
I have used the phone for a week now and it's absolutely amazing! Here's a video review I made. I apologize for the bad quality in the dark shots, but my cameras are too average to handle it. I can assure you the image is crisp clear in complete dark rooms, but in even the slightest light you loose details and sharpness, and as you can see in my video, in the evening (it was 7 pm), you can't see a thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL3kEi40aBs
Feel free to ask questions
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Very cool :] Thanks!

floiancu said:
Hey!
I have used the phone for a week now and it's absolutely amazing! Here's a video review I made. I apologize for the bad quality in the dark shots, but my cameras are too average to handle it. I can assure you the image is crisp clear in complete dark rooms, but in even the slightest light you loose details and sharpness, and as you can see in my video, in the evening (it was 7 pm), you can't see a thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL3kEi40aBs
Feel free to ask questions
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how was the battery life on it, is it for like a short time use on battery? or can you play an entire movie?

It can go a full 5h on one charge, so they say, but i have never tried to drain the battery on the projector only. What's more, you get a second battery you can charge independently and simultaneously so watching a full movie is a piece of cake. As far as a smartphone goes, it uses the battery fairly ok, you can easily get more than an entire day on 3g, wifi and others.

MadJoe said:
The screen is only 4", but you're probably talking about the projected image. But if you're thinking the projected image is going to look even remotely good enough to "enjoy" you're fooling yourself - 15 lumens is pretty weak. And on top of that battery life is probably going to be dismal, other features will definitely be removed or skimped on to make room for the projector (and to keep the cost down), and Samsung will abandon this thing update-wise faster than you can say "Samsung will abandon this thing update-wise". For all those reasons I wouldn't touch this thing with a 10' pole. The more I think about it, you have yourself a recipe for the worst phone of 2012 brewing in this thing.
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I have used the phone for a month now. I considered getting it for its battery life more than for its projector. The price is as expected if you consider that pico projectors cost ~£70 on ebay. Nevertheless I am so pissed off with any smartphone's battery life in general that I would easily pay £70 to get one that gives best possible.
This phone has 4" and 2 batteries with 2000miliamphours close to SGSIII or the new google nexus that have much bigger screen. So if I don't use the projector but every thing else turned on 24/7, Wifi, 3G, live wallpaper, skype, steam, 6 im+ accounts and normal to heavy use, I can get 2 days without charging AND having the 2nd battery that comes in the box for another 2 days.
I was expecting the projector to be nothing more than a gimmick and not good as it actually is! With flash support I can stream live tv on my wall or ceiling. I had to craft a base for it from a little box so that it can stay upright and charge at the same time. Sure it needs to be dark but for the times of the day that i wanted to use it, darkness was not a problem. Even in daytime thought, I can use a A4 sheet of paper across the desk from where its charging and play videos or tv shows as an additional 10-12" screen on my desktop.
So your assumption about battery life, sorry to say but it is false. The battery life on this phone is one of the best out there, just because they needed to do so to support the projector. The projector is a feature more than it is a gimmick and it has proven useful for me on every day use.
Cons:
-I've only heard announcements for official upgrade to JB but I haven't received one yet. Still running GingerBread.
-no 3rd party support for roms and kernels, yet., I am missing features such as USB-OTG and overclocking. Barely a rooting guide exists.
-no dedicated XDA forum for GT-I8530
-stock prevents me from using the projector while gps is locating.. (not a yuge problem imo, just annoyance)
Overall the phone is a WIN situation for me. Official or 3rd party support is a matter of time.

Why is there no XDA forum for it? They should start turning op pretty cheap on ebay and with the projector it's an obvious candidate for custom applications.
- Smint

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Why is there no XDA forum for it? They should start turning op pretty cheap on ebay and with the projector it's an obvious candidate for custom applications.
- Smint
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General discussion > About xda-developers.com > *** New Device Forum Requests ***
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38333050

Battery & Performance disappointing from reviews

So I read through The Verge, Engadget and AnandTech (performance & battery) reviews and the general consensus was that performance and battery life isn't anything stellar. In fact, even though it has the same internal hardware (aside from the LTE) as the Optimus G, it performs significantly worse than the Optimus G.
AnandTech stated that it's probably due to thermal throttling(?) while Engadget blamed it on software that isn't in its final build yet.
Is anyone else extremely disappointed by the performance of this device?
I'm coming from a One X (AT&T) which performs much better on just about every benchmark there is and it's sad to see the device like the N4 performing far worse when it should be better (dual core S4 vs quad core S4, more RAM, more mAH etc).

Its the chrome browser, its really bad. I tried chrome on my gnex and scores significantly lower than the stock browser.

So your surprised a raw souped up hot rod burns more gas than a its less powerful more optimized counterparts?
:xda on sprint g-nex:

I fear that Anandtech is right, I can't think of any other way why the CPU scores in Antutu are that low,
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How can the web browsing battery life be worse than the One X, they have a similar screen but the One X has a smaller battery and an old processor (40nm).

They have REVIEW UNITS.. which isn't final anything.
I just watched The Verge 's hands on review, and they said battery life was great, so I don't know what your talking about.
Either way, not final software = not a reliable source
Thats like testing a prototype car, and it sucks, when in reality, its not even final...

If it wasn't close to the final why google even send those review unit.

iAndropple said:
They have REVIEW UNITS.. which isn't final anything.
I just watched The Verge 's hands on review, and they said battery life was great, so I don't know what your talking about.
Either way, not final software = not a reliable source
Thats like testing a prototype car, and it sucks, when in reality, its not even final...
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The verge was the only one that said battery life was good. And they didn't really run any tests, it was more of a let me see if it will get me through a day kind of thing.
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enviii said:
The verge was the only one that said battery life was good. And they didn't really run any tests, it was more of a let me see if it will get me through a day kind of thing.
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2100 mah battery will do me perfect... I get through about a day and a half without a single charge on my samsung galaxy s3, and it has a bigger screen, LTE, and the same battery. It shouldn't concern you, besides, there are tons of apps out there (like juice defender) that handle your radios and usage. It's a cell phone, it was made to get you through a full day, charge it up when sleeping, then use it again.

What did the Optimus G get? We should expect something similar I'm guessing if it is a software issue.

I saw in a video where the guy opened Battery Settings and Android OS took about 20 something % of the Battery... I remember there was a Bug in 4.0.3 ICS when i got an update on my Nexus s... Could be a software problem! Lets see what lands up in the final build!

Well, performance could be to thermal throttling. Do remember these units are probably quite old development units. As in the video by the verge the guy from google said 'we are still changing things on this device, even now'
Qualcomm is good at delivering driver updates for their GPUs, as not many devices use the Adreno 320 yet.

iAndropple said:
They have REVIEW UNITS.. which isn't final anything.
I just watched The Verge 's hands on review, and they said battery life was great, so I don't know what your talking about.
Either way, not final software = not a reliable source
Thats like testing a prototype car, and it sucks, when in reality, its not even final...
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This.
Also, the fact that some of the screen shots showed that there was a software update ready means that there might have been fixes in store.
Take these reviews with a grain of salt, kids.

I'm still a bit perplexed as to what these reviews deem to be "poor" battery life. I mean, most of the reviews that I've read state that in tests utilizing an infinite loop of Google searches, or an infinitely looping video, they all got around 5.5 hours of Screen On time on cellular data only. On average, I'm lucky if I get 2.5-3 hours of Screen On time on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus, with 4G turned OFF and connected to Wifi all day. With 3G only, that number comes down to about 2 hours of Screen On time. With 4G LTE on, that drops even further to about 1.5 hours of Screen On time.
I understand that the Optimus G gets the same Screen On time with 4G LTE on, and that without LTE the Nexus 4 should do much better. But to call 5.5 hours of Screen On time "poor" seems ridiculous to me.
EDIT: I should clarify that both my experience on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus and the reviews of the Nexus 4 that I referred to utilized 50% brightness.

Just wait until Google actually releases it. I personally don't trust hands on review because it's not a final release (both hardware and software) and they didn't have long time to use it
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel

dabomb224 said:
I'm still a bit perplexed as to what these reviews deem to be "poor" battery life. I mean, most of the reviews that I've read state that in tests utilizing an infinite loop of Google searches, or an infinitely looping video, they all got around 5.5 hours of Screen On time on cellular data only. On average, I'm lucky if I get 2.5-3 hours of Screen On time on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus, with 4G turned OFF and connected to Wifi all day. With 3G only, that number comes down to about 2 hours of Screen On time. With 4G LTE on, that drops even further to about 1.5 hours of Screen On time.
I understand that the Optimus G gets the same Screen On time with 4G LTE on, and that without LTE the Nexus 4 should do much better. But to call 5.5 hours of Screen On time "poor" seems ridiculous to me.
EDIT: I should clarify that both my experience on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus and the reviews of the Nexus 4 that I referred to utilized 50% brightness.
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If 5 hours of screen time out of a day of usage, that's good by me. I get less than three hours with my Note so that will be an improvement. Same for me when I had the One X. I was lucky to get 3.5 hours with the One X on wifi, let alone LTE. I've also experienced from my Note that software makes a world of difference.

It is a review unit, they want them to find review its current state. Google said they are still changing it , even now
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[Q] How is it?

Hello everyone, I want to buy a Nexus 4. Right now, I am using the Galaxy S i9000. My questions are:
- How's the phone in terms of speed? (in comparison to your other/older phones)
- Does it still heat up?
- How's gaming? (if you do play games on it)
- How's the battery life? (please mention if you're on custom or stock roms)
Thank you

Blazing fast phone, only the newer high end phones are faster than this.
I dont do a lot of gaming so I cant say but Ive never had overheating issues.
The battery life is quite good and I think its only because of a few people mentioning the battery that it has become a big topic for this phone.

It would have been so much easier to read through one of the bazillion other 'what's this phone like' threads but anyway:
-Easily the fastest phone I've ever used
-Mine gets hotter than I expect but nothing more than my old HD2
-Gaming is great, sometimes apps aren't perfectly optimised so they won't seem as fast as on the iPhone 5 but other than that you'll struggle to find a device that beats the N4. In addition, the expanded desktop mode found in many custom ROMs really adds to the experience.
-Battery life is quite good for me, I can regularly get through a day.

MisT. said:
Hello everyone, I want to buy a Nexus 4. Right now, I am using the Galaxy S i9000. My questions are:
- How's the phone in terms of speed? (in comparison to your other/older phones)
- Does it still heat up?
- How's gaming? (if you do play games on it)
- How's the battery life? (please mention if you're on custom or stock roms)
Thank you
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Speed: This is the fastest phone I have ever used. Period.
Does it heat up: If you're charging the phone and doing heavy gaming, yes it'll heat up. Under normal usage however, my phone remains completely cool.
Gaming: Haven't found a single game this thing can't run.
Battery life: Easily makes it through a day. Typically see 4-5 hours of screen-time depending on whether or not I have WiFi access (WiFi gives more battery life, 3G uses battery a bit more).

Best phone I've ever owned! With that said, the n4 is not for everyone. I'm a minimalist at heart so I prefer vanilla. Hardware wise, yeah, no phone can compete with the n4 at its price point...
The phone does heat up a bit, I under volt to help deal with this issue. It doesn't bother me that much even though it has gotten really hot a couple of times.
I don't game much with my n4 though so I wouldn't know about how it handles them.
Battery life is actually pretty good. As long as you are realistic with expectations the battery life is pretty darn good. I can get 10+ hours of moderate-heavy use, 3+ hrs sot and the rest of the time I'm playing music over vanilla music player and doing what it is that I do on a day to day basis with my phone(texting, emails, xda).
All in all, a great all around phone!
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

butter fast stock
heat, you will feel heat because of glass back; but not an issue for cpu, cpu can handle that heat. if its uncomfortable you can go custom kernel like franco, or even UV.
great screen for gaming
battery life is great for me on 4.2.2, but ymmv

Phone is amazingly fast. I come from a 2+ year old smartphone that was single core and only had 512mb of ram (HTC vision or G2). In today's standards that is very slow. It would just always lag. It would take like 10 seconds to open an app and then face lag every where on the app. One time it took me five minutes to open the dialer. On the nexus 4 apps open almost instantly.
Let's not forget that this phone is eye candy. It's a very nice looking phone.
First few charges the battery life will be sluggish. After that I easily get about 20 hours of battery life.
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Love the device.
Oh, owners may think it gets really hot because the way the back glass disperses the heat but in reality, doesn't run much hotter than any other high end phone. Just feels like it.
[NEXUS⁴] [CARBON1.6] [MATR1X8] [TWRP]

Thanks to everyone who replied. Now, I'm quite assured that this will be the phone for me. I'll leave the poll and the thread open for anyone who wants to add his/her opinion, until i buy the N4.
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Speed: No lags at all whatsoever, even when underclocked heavily to 1.3GHz, or even 1GHz from the stock 1.5
Heat: It doesn't heat up that much at all in anything I do, partly due to the undervolting I have done on [Trinity 113b] Kernel
Gaming: I don't play heavy hardcore games like Need for Speed, but I do play casual games and no lag at all on any of those.
Battery: I am very pleased with the performance on battery. With custom ROM and kernel, this is my daily screen on time and routine with wifi
Notice even with close to 6 hours of screen on time I still have a whopping 33% of battery life.
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MisT. said:
Hello everyone, I want to buy a Nexus 4. Right now, I am using the Galaxy S i9000. My questions are:
- How's the phone in terms of speed? (in comparison to your other/older phones)
- Does it still heat up?
- How's gaming? (if you do play games on it)
- How's the battery life? (please mention if you're on custom or stock roms)
Thank you
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Personally went from a 3 year old i9000, which has served me well over the years and gone through many custom ROMS, to a Nexus 4, and I'm very happy with it.
If you're not a custom ROM kind of guy and like the stock Samsung software you might be better served by an S3. It has a better camera and battery life.
Personally I chose the Nexus 4 instead because it is blazing fast and has brilliant support from custom ROM developers (I'd rather have the latest version of Android over Samsung's version), and I like the way it looks.
In terms of speed and gaming you will find it an incredible improvement over your S1, as I did. It just does not lag - it's blazing fast, responsive and smooth.
Put it in a case because I do not think it will cope with drops as well as the S1 did.
i9000 is notorious for bad GPS so you will probably be happier when you're using it for Navigation too.
Audio output is weaker compared to an i9000 with Voodoo sound but still ok, some custom kernels/apps can boost that.
Haven't had heat issues. Battery life isn't the best but is much better than my S1 was. At the end of my work day my S1 was around 55-65% but my N4 is at 75-80%.

MisT. said:
Hello everyone, I want to buy a Nexus 4. Right now, I am using the Galaxy S i9000. My questions are:
- How's the phone in terms of speed? (in comparison to your other/older phones)
- Does it still heat up?
- How's gaming? (if you do play games on it)
- How's the battery life? (please mention if you're on custom or stock roms)
Thank you
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- It's very fast
- with franco kernel + uv settings i don't have any problems, not even at gaming, with stock kernel it heats up much.
- just played Real Racing 3 today without any problems, really smooth. (without heating up the device)
- battery life is ok

Maddmatt said:
Personally went from a 3 year old i9000, which has served me well over the years and gone through many custom ROMS, to a Nexus 4, and I'm very happy with it.
If you're not a custom ROM kind of guy and like the stock Samsung software you might be better served by an S3. It has a better camera and battery life.
Personally I chose the Nexus 4 instead because it is blazing fast and has brilliant support from custom ROM developers (I'd rather have the latest version of Android over Samsung's version), and I like the way it looks.
In terms of speed and gaming you will find it an incredible improvement over your S1, as I did. It just does not lag - it's blazing fast, responsive and smooth.
Put it in a case because I do not think it will cope with drops as well as the S1 did.
i9000 is notorious for bad GPS so you will probably be happier when you're using it for Navigation too.
Audio output is weaker compared to an i9000 with Voodoo sound but still ok, some custom kernels/apps can boost that.
Haven't had heat issues. Battery life isn't the best but is much better than my S1 was. At the end of my work day my S1 was around 55-65% but my N4 is at 75-80%.
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Thanks, I'm glad to find somebody who had an S1. Talking about dropping the phone, I bought a cover for my S after it fell and broke the back cover :laugh: . I'm definitely getting a cover for my N4.

think twice when you choose this device

Did you know the s6 doesnt suport HDMI to TV as it is possible with s3,s4,s5 even 3d, note 3, note 4. so you need chromecast also the s5,note 3 and note 4 have longer battery on same usage.
Another fact is that the 32 bit CPU in note 4 has a slightly higher score in futuremark benchmarks as the s6 means its GPU performs worse while both devices have the same screen resolution. The antutu score is just higher because its CPU performs better. The new tegra x1 has even twice the gpu performance as the s6 and will be in some devices this year.
Its not waterproof. Supports no SD card. U cant replace its battery. People report even Rotation issues after wireless Charing. Tw gets laggy as hell. & im pretty sure nobody noticed it that the only reason note 4 had no official lollipop update to make people buy the s6. Even s4 hat the update so dont claim.
It looks good. And is well built. But you dont build a fast car that cant fit its fuel Inside. So this devices is more a test, overpower experiment of samsung. This fall we will see the note 5 with redicilous 4k resolution. And its overpower again just to show that they "can", f(_)cks not given about the consumer & shots been fired from apple. Iphone 6 still almost the same performance with 1/3 of the ram s6 has.
By the way the new TV box by nvidea tegra x1 is already 4k. And it does handle doom3, crysis 3 and unreal engine4 easily. And yes its Android and we will see it on smartphones too.
At the moment note 4 is the better choice because the images will look sharper on it/ due larger screen, you will have more fun with it.

Yeah. I've been thinking double twice before bought the s6, love it. My s5 still rock steady as my backup if my s6 runs out of juice
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Here's the thing I'm sure people read specs as well as those of us who are more technically inclined read forums for comparison, so whats the point of this thread I'm sure people who buy an S6 know what they're getting by now.

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ok....

U really think people's haven't thought through before buy a new phone?
S6 5.1" smaller size, that people's prefer than Note 4 5.7" and other things, that makes people's to choose S6.
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Tegra....what a joke!

Buy a chromecast...problem solved
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So you wrote this thread to make people feeling bad who bought one? Ever realised that people actually did their research or not? BTW your s4 has equal score with benchmarking on the same OS version and standard rom? Lel....
Normally I don't reply on these idiotic posts.
But your slanter and crying about the S6 makes me more think like you want one but can't afford it? Correct me if I'm wrong but I seriously can't find a legitimate reason why you should qq so much about something you supposedly not like.

None of the 'downsides' you listed are concerns to me. It's really up to each buyer.

What kind of archaic world do we live in that we have to do HDMI out still? Man buy a chromecast or any miracast dongle on amazon.

S6 owner here, S3 as previous devices, my wife using I9505(search it if u dont know).
my aunty and uncle use N3, my best friends N4, this listed phone are all phone that i serviced phone consistancely, regarding what i know so far, N3 had quite less lag on default TW, only lag in gallery as everyone know(only whn its a lot of photo inside) and i dont see N4 having higher score in any benchmark app comparing to my S6, yet S6 TW rom really have the light apps vs N4...
i already installed a lot apps on my phone and i still running smooth, no heat up issues, battery last long enough as only 2550mAh vs S4 2600, SoT 5hrs vs 2.3hrs, 14nm vs 28nm, 50fps(1440p) vs 38fps(1080p) on antutu benchmark test.
Yet.. google officially claim that bug on android 5.0 will be solve in android 5.1. Im living in Malaysia, S4 i9500 already on Lollipop (no doubt), N3 also already got its Lollipop update last week.
ram vs performance, did anyone say that ram mean performance, what do you mean by almost the same performance with 1/3ram they got. Comparing different platform is quite not fair as u should know its different in many point, take a window mobile n compare then?
android can play in many ways, its not like old time, 3GB of ram, multitasking is not a problem in S6. i dont think apple can do it... (jail breaken ipad can use split screen, try it and u will know why ram so big in S6). even my S3 got better ram vs ipad2.
In short, that up to everyone's point of view. i love S6 camera, the design of the phone. even i lost adcard support, but usb otg available for all android phone, i lost change able battery, but i just need to charge below 1Hour, because 1Hour give 90% Battery. With minimum 5Hours of SoT daily usage is good enough for me, including 2hours on CC or SW(both online Games).

the s6 is stop gap phone for me, waiting for the note5 because i broke my previous phone. The S6 is a very nice phone though, nicest one I ever had

could please some mod close this idiot topic that steals space to other ppl n devs, thanks

One thing you can't level at this phone is lag. TW is still perfectly snappy on mine since I ditched Nova again for it. Apps reload but as long as you have animations on default, by the time the app is on screen it's reloaded.
The screen issues I have were present on Note 4 anyway.
As for using it with a TV, not interested.

nadejo said:
Did you know the s6 doesnt suport HDMI to TV as it is possible with s3,s4,s5 even 3d, note 3, note 4. so you need chromecast also the s5,note 3 and note 4 have longer battery on same usage.
Another fact is that the 32 bit CPU in note 4 has a slightly higher score in futuremark benchmarks as the s6 means its GPU performs worse while both devices have the same screen resolution. The antutu score is just higher because its CPU performs better. The new tegra x1 has even twice the gpu performance as the s6 and will be in some devices this year.
Its not waterproof. Supports no SD card. U cant replace its battery. People report even Rotation issues after wireless Charing. Tw gets laggy as hell. & im pretty sure nobody noticed it that the only reason note 4 had no official lollipop update to make people buy the s6. Even s4 hat the update so dont claim.
It looks good. And is well built. But you dont build a fast car that cant fit its fuel Inside. So this devices is more a test, overpower experiment of samsung. This fall we will see the note 5 with redicilous 4k resolution. And its overpower again just to show that they "can", f(_)cks not given about the consumer & shots been fired from apple. Iphone 6 still almost the same performance with 1/3 of the ram s6 has.
By the way the new TV box by nvidea tegra x1 is already 4k. And it does handle doom3, crysis 3 and unreal engine4 easily. And yes its Android and we will see it on smartphones too.
At the moment note 4 is the better choice because the images will look sharper on it/ due larger screen, you will have more fun with it.
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The 2 things I put in bold in your message just kill your credibility.
My S6 is full of apps, rooted and customized like hell, yet I've never seen it lag (not even a bit, so the "like hell" seems completely bias).
About the benchmark, you really want to chose the single benchmark that suits what you want to say to prove your point?
What about the fact that every single other GPU benchmark (GFXBench,...) give is completely in favor of the S6 (by far)? Yeah I guess you don't really want to talk about those

What is OP trying to achieve here? Theres already a thread about things like that.
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adrianr514 said:
What kind of archaic world do we live in that we have to do HDMI out still? Man buy a chromecast or any miracast dongle on amazon.
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I am absolutely not taking sides with the OP here, but I have to say that I was a bit annoyed that Samsung removed the HDMI out for the S6.
Serious question: I often go on holiday to a house which has no wifi, can I somehow still use chromecast to stream films from the S6 to the TV in the house (the TV has HDMI ports)? I used to to this all the time with the MHL cable on my other android phones and it worked incredibly well.

Move along folks, nothing to see here. Just upping my post count before this thread gets locked.

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Move along folks, nothing to see here. Just upping my post count before this thread gets locked.
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Can I take your thanks?

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Xiaomi Poco F1, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Xiaomi Poco F1 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

After using the phone for almost a day, I must say that the battery life is amazing. 10 hours of SOT is something I had never heard before but after using the phone, I'm more than impressed with the battery life. PS: on WiFi, over 80 apps installed.

Adityameena70 said:
After using the phone for almost a day, I must say that the battery life is amazing. 10 hours of SOT is something I had never heard before but after using the phone, I'm more than impressed with the battery life. PS: on WiFi, over 80 apps installed.
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I am more interested in SOT when using 4G all day. Anything above 5 hours would be awesome. 10 hours of SOT with WiFi is nothing short of an achievement.

Ruvy said:
I am more interested in SOT when using 4G all day. Anything above 5 hours would be awesome. 10 hours of SOT with WiFi is nothing short of an achievement.
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Well I have got 7+ hours of SOT with 4G. Mainly setting up new apps, playing PubG and watching youtube.
Got thru 4 gb of data in those 7+ hrs , so yes I am pretty happy.
Now on 85%battery after 1.5 hrs SOT and 1 hr of calls.

Not too shabby

Well, I like Poco f1 a lot because of the amazing battery
But the call output through loudspeaker could be much better and so could be the display touch latency...I mean I don't expect 50ms like an iPhone but the response of this phone left much to desire. It doesn't lag, apps open quickly, switching between apps is smooth. You just feel disappointed when you scroll up and down quickly through app dower or web page. I think my nexus 5 was more responsive in this aspect. I'm not sure as it's dead now so can't campare side by side now.
I tried increasing pointer speed under settings, but it didn't do anything. It's probably for external devices such as mouse, but I tried anyway.
Lastly, I saw drop test of Poco f1 from 3 ft on youtube which broke it after single drop! The case provided in box is lose, so have to buy a body armor. I just wish they had used gorilla glass 5 like in mi a2. Mi a2 did survive a couple of drops in drop test uploaded on YouTube. I know gorilla glass is scratch resistant and isn't really shatterproof but still!
What's the use of a great phone if it's gonna break its screen on the first drop which is gonna happen sooner or later?!
It's already heavy so body armor will increase its weight even more...I also doubt that full screen swipe gesture controls won't work if the armor edges rise above the phone edges!

PD2091 said:
But the call output through loudspeaker could be much better and so could be the display touch latency...I mean I don't expect 50ms like an iPhone but the response of this phone left much to desire. It doesn't lag, apps open quickly, switching between apps is smooth. You just feel disappointed when you scroll up and down quickly through app dower or web page. I think my nexus 5 was more responsive in this aspect. I'm not sure as it's dead now so can't campare side by side now.
I tried increasing pointer speed under settings, but it didn't do anything. It's probably for external devices such as mouse, but I tried anyway.
Lastly, I saw drop test of Poco f1 from 3 ft on youtube which broke it after single drop! The case provided in box is lose, so have to buy a body armor. I just wish they had used gorilla glass 5 like in mi a2. Mi a2 did survive a couple of drops in drop test uploaded on YouTube. I know gorilla glass is scratch resistant and isn't really shatterproof but still!
What's the use of a great phone if it's gonna break its screen on the first drop which is gonna happen sooner or later?!
It's already heavy so body armor will increase its weight even more...I also doubt that full screen swipe gesture controls won't work if the armor edges rise above the phone edges!
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I thought I was the only one seeing YouTube videos on 60fps PUBG Gameplay and noticed touch latency is really high. Mi5 user here. Do you think poco f1 is a worthy upgrade over it? Want to use it for PUBG but the latency breaks my heart.

The love for it increases day by day!
I was seriously not a great fan of the notch n gestures..... But guess what now I'm loving it!!!
The time n battery with signal indicators around the notch is a great way to use the space.
Face unlock is the best thing that ever happened to me!
The gestures on this phone is amazing, but the back gesture has to be more efficient as the screen protector Kinda interefere??
N lastly the speed... It's fast!
Only thing I'm waiting for is the notifications n battery percentage for notification panels. Hopefully they update it fast.

Hi, does it have notifications in ambient display? While screen is off I mean

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Hi, does it have notifications in ambient display? While screen is off I mean
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There is no ambient /always on display on the phone yet, not sure if this is something a dev could make the mod for

Yes I love my F1
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I've been using this phone extensively for a week. Mine is a 6gb RAM + 64gb ROM. To sum it up, I give this a 4 star out of 5, where the missing 1 star goes to all the software bugs, big notch and overly rounded edges. Pocophone could have executed the big notch and overly rounded edges better if they had better UI, but for now, even some system UI cannot be seen or cut halfway. Overall, it is a fast, ambitious phone that gave the rest of the flagship a run for its money with its impressive hardware that actually truly reflected in daily use of the phone like heat dissipation is pretty quick on this phone, charging speed is acceptable, phone speed is quick but I do find that ram management could still improve. The camera is so so, even my Huawei P9 from 2 years ago can be a contender to this phone.

Eh. I get 2 days SOT with cellular network on with my Redmi Note 4 which has 4100 MhA. Compared to this Poco should have gotten double of that battery It would be an awesome phone. SOT is everything to me after efficiency. It's a no go.

Pocophone F1 fingerprint issue
Hello,
I just bought a new one Pocophone F1 last Friday and the fingerprint identification does not work. I add my fingerprint to the phone but it does not open the locked screen.
Have anyone idea what can I do to solve the issue? Or is it a factory defective?
Thank you for your answer in advance.
Regards,
Balázs

szenteb said:
Hello,
I just bought a new one Pocophone F1 last Friday and the fingerprint identification does not work. I add my fingerprint to the phone but it does not open the locked screen.
Have anyone idea what can I do to solve the issue? Or is it a factory defective?
Thank you for your answer in advance.
Regards,
Balázs
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Hi,
Factory reset was solved the problem. It seems working fine.

Overall 8/10
Priceworthy 10/10
Cons
- Speaker is a bit weird
- No 4g (T-Mobile) USA
- Plastic back (I hope third party companies at least make custom backs)
- On stock rom when sun directly hits the screen, it becomes high contrast? (Fixed on custom rom)
Pros
- Battery
- Price
- CPU
- Speed
- Developer friendly
- Camera
- Does Not burn your hands
- Face unlock ( no face unlock on roms yet)
Overall i love this phone, second xiaomi phone and im impressed.

I've been using Poco for a month now. Although I think it's pretty awesome for the price, I have a feeling they should have executed some things a little bit better.
Poco reminds me of the day the Oneplus One came out, which was a little bit more competitive at the time.
Don't get me wrong, Poco is a phenomenal device but there are a few drawbacks, especially software bugs that are ruining the real life usage on some occasions.
Previously I used MI 6, which I still have, and it was probably the best android phone I ever owned, and I owned a lot of them. It was the reason I fell in love with Xiaomi for offering excellent devices at competitive prices, excellent hardware, frequent updates and dev support. Hell, even MI 5 is a joy to use these days due to phenomenal support.
After my experiences with Samsung/Huawei/Sony/Motorola etc. my conclusion is that only Xiaomi and Oneplus are devices worth the money, and not because of the cheaper price, but because of real life usage.
To get back on the subject, my MI 6 flies in comparison to Poco, it feels much snappier, touch sensitivity is much better, camera experience is similar. Poco's best feature for now, at least for me is the battery. I cannot kill this thing. I get 7 to 9h of SOT every time, and it's a real treat knowing I don't have to check battery level every time I leave the house for a longer period of time.
If Xiaomi fixes a few software bugs (and they will), this will be a real flagship, no matter of the price. Some things are not so visually pleasing, notch is too wide, screen corners are too round etc., but everything is working as it should, hopefully even better with future updates.
Some companies executed this "affordable flagship" category a little bit better, like Meizu. Take a look at their Meizu 16th (Snapdragon 845, 8gb RAM, notchless amoled display,premium build, etc) for almost the same price, but I wouldn't advise owning it, assuming support will not be so good.
My point is, even the cheapest "top spec" phones have competition, and first impression is the one that counts the most. People are picky, and small things matter. Xiaomi should benefit from these small complaints upon release od Poco f2.
Conclusion: If you need to upgrade go for the MI 8 since price difference is not so big anymore. Go for the Poco only if you need above average battery life.
Thank you

Touchscreen sucks. Laggy and inaccurate.

After two days of testing, I have to say the phone is really fast.
However, they could have set a bit different priorities as this is not an official "play" phone:
They could have used only 4gb ram and raised the price like 1%. In exchange they could have included optical image stabilization and nfc (nfc costs like 2$).
For me this two features would have been a great improvement. Also they should remove the strange 3 days waiting time to unlock the phone.
These are minor complaints and I think the phone was a good purchase.

Awesome