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Samsung Galaxy Note - I tried to like it :-(

I tried to like the Galaxy Note. I really did. However, the size is just to overpowering for me. Plus, I couldn't shake the fact that the GS3 has come out as a more feature-proof device.
When I first got the phone, I was in LOVE, LUST, whatever! However, pulling it out of my purse begin to feel like a chore and the noticeable lag was not something I felt I had to deal with on a $600.00 phone. Now, I know you say, well stall a new launcher/rom. But guys, these treats should ADD to a phone not mask faults/shortcomings.
I have to say, after hearing that the Note II may be a bigger size, I have to wonder what brave soul would carry it? Soon, will be putting Ipads up to our ears!
All in all, I want to say that I have enjoyed the Note forums and have learned soo much. Kudos, to those who LOVE their phones and I wish you a smooth free experience going forward.
P.S. Not looking for a fight, please don't start one. We are entitled to our opinions. That's what makes the world go round
Any Note owners considering the move to the GS3? I'd love to hear from you.

Im sad you feel like that but i guess its personal preference,
For me Ive adapted to the size, at first it was overwhelming but now it feels normal, All other phones feel miniature lol !!
Im also considering the SGS3, but not to replace my Note ! I have 2 lines with my provider and ones almost up, So I think I may get the S3 or hold out for the note2
that being said, Phones are getting bigger and bigger now, The HTC One X is big, Hell even the SGS3 is big !!
I dont make a lot of calls, and when i do i have my head phones / bluetooth headset in, So i rarely need to hold it to my ear.
I love my ''Phablet'' !!!

I could have bought an S3, but I chose the note instead. The S3 has a very slightly better camera sensor and two more cores on a slightly better CPU.
I see the Note's size as a plus, but that's entirely subjective. Both are great devices, and either will serve you well. Sometimes it takes a day or two to really know if you really like a device enough to keep it.

Today I asked a retailer if I could swap my SGN for S3.
I consider moving to S3 because of superbrick bug and screen issues.
But I'm still holding ..... isn't S3 another Samsung phone ?
Little confusion but I'll follow S3 forums and decide.

I was on the.original 5" bandwagon with the sell streak, I have had my note since November and I won't consider anything other than a note 2 for my next device.
There really is no going back from the.functionality of a 5" screen, for me at least.
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angieutc said:
But guys, these treats should ADD to a phone not mask faults/shortcomings.
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You are not masking anything..bad choice of words.
Using a better ROM makes the phone faster and a lot smoother. There is no masking involved is all too real and proves that is not a hardware fault.
I do it with every phone and in the case of the NOTE. I am not changing unless it is for a NOTE 2 or similar.
Regards

shaolin95 said:
You are not masking anything..bad choice of words.
Using a better ROM makes the phone faster and a lot smoother. There is no masking involved is all too real and proves that is not a hardware fault.
I do it with every phone and in the case of the NOTE. I am not changing unless it is for a NOTE 2 or similar.
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^I agree with this guy.
Take some time to consider such a concept:
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Ever heard of these little battery-powered race cars from some years ago?
You buy one, Car A, and it goes like say, just for the sake of an example, 20mph. You buy another one, Car B, and it goes for 15mph.
Then you get yourself some aftermarket parts - engines, wheels, or whatever, and modified both Car A and Car B and now you're sure they are both in their fastest. After doing that, Car A now goes at 30mph, while Car B goes at 40mph. Car B is faster now even if it was slower to begin with. It had more potential than Car A - but that won't be realized without some effort on your part. Also, it's also useful to note that the manufacturers of these two cars may be different from each other and may also not be expecting what you intend to do modify their cars as well.
Heck, why am I even using toy cars as a comparison? Should've went straight to phone comparisons and the text would've been much shorter. XD
Anyway, I'm assuming you have a Note. Try not to throw it away and just play with it. Maybe you'll find time to like it some day.

This is the best phone i ever had and i don`t feel the need to buy the Galaxy S3.
I`am not realy fond of touchwizz so i am running CM9, the phone is super fast, has no lags and does work as it is supposed to be.
I love the big screen for browsing, games, video`s and photo`s.
I will probably only change for the Note 2 :victory:

shaolin95 said:
You are not masking anything..bad choice of words.
Using a better ROM makes the phone faster and a lot smoother. There is no masking involved is all too real and proves that is not a hardware fault.
I do it with every phone and in the case of the NOTE. I am not changing unless it is for a NOTE 2 or similar.
Regards
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Difference of opinion. I stand by my original statement. I even upgraded to ICS and while it made some difference in smoothness, the results were negligible plus it added some problems.
Adding to my original post. I also think the Note is going to become the red-headed step-child now that the GS3 is out. May not be true, but that is my gut feeling. Besides, I bought my note, last week -- Technically, I'm already using outdated equipment. For those who are passed their return windows, the Note is great, but for those who still have time to AT LEAST play with the SG3, I would.
Loving the conversation

I love my Note, have a fantastic rom running on it and its lightning fast and perfect for everyday use. Plus it suits my massive hands down to the ground.
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The only my 1 BIG reason getting the Note is S-pen. It really saves my work days apart from other BIG cool features.
If the S-pen means a lots to you then all other smartphones, out there, are being nothing nowadays.

do you really need it?
I'm sensing that you don't need a Note or the S3.
The note is all about utility and function, not form or fashion.
Are you just uncomfortable with not having the latest?
Just how fast/smooth do you need it to be?
If UI speed is your main concern, you need Windows Phone 7.
Looks like you want a WP7 phone like a Lumia 900.

if u r afraid of roms or if think u r going 2 get something good 4 u as a seasoned droid guy
STOCK?
u r insane
what u get is a rom thats good 4 samsung or apple or whowevers biz strategy it happens 2 be
4 me the whole point of using andriod and supporting its accension is **** like xda & linux...the customization
ultimately this stuff is all based on winmo old school winmo & so much was pioneered here on this forum
we r pushing envelopes here
u should have copped an iphone
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11% more pixels and 100% more useful 16 x 10 1280 x 800 vs 720p.
/end thread
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angieutc said:
Difference of opinion. I stand by my original statement. I even upgraded to ICS and while it made some difference in smoothness, the results were negligible plus it added some problems.
Adding to my original post. I also think the Note is going to become the red-headed step-child now that the GS3 is out. May not be true, but that is my gut feeling. Besides, I bought my note, last week -- Technically, I'm already using outdated equipment. For those who are passed their return windows, the Note is great, but for those who still have time to AT LEAST play with the SG3, I would.
Loving the conversation
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Check my youtube channel , specially something like the Nova 3 running Smooth on NOTE video and tell me if it there difference is negligible.

I don't like my Note...
I love it
And the S3 won't change my mind!
Waiting for Note2
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Interesting discussion, and I'd like to post my opinion as well.
What clearly differentiates the Note from other phones is the size. And the pen. I almost forgot about the pen, as I hardly use it. For me, a Note would be equally fine if it came without the pen. Some will disagree here, as they have other usage requirements.
I deliberately chose the Note due to the screen size. I had iphone and other phones, and I use the phone frequently to watch movies and to browse the web during my frequent travels. Having used iphone and others previously, I got more and more depressed with the small screens. I can say that I appreciate the Note's larger screen and its great resultion. It makes these tasks simply more fun.
If someone performs tasks such as phone calls and SMS, the larger screen size does not benefit (much). So appreciation with the phone is releated to its use.
So I believe the phone serves people with certain specific requirements, and other features/functions are then simply less important.
Unfortunately for me, watching movies is somewhat affected by the bad screen gamma as reported at many several in the forum. But I still would not want to change back to a smaller size, as I am not much disturbed by it and I can live with the issue (also because my screen is by far not as bad as what some guys report here).
If I ever (have to) change the phone, I wish it would have the following characteristics:
1. Approx. same screen size, but certainly not smaller
2. No gamma issue / better gamma calibration
3. Better back camera (better sharpness, less distortion, better light sensitivity)
4. Provide root access out of the box (no jailbreak/rooting required)
5. Better battery life of Android OS (probably requires better software programming skills)
Performance-wise, I am totally happy with what I have now, and I am not requiring more CPU cores or higher frequency. My phone has been totally responsive all the time out of the box since November 2011.
I had GB 2.3.5, 2.3.6 and ICS 4.0.3, am now on Paranoid Android 0.4 as I totally disliked the email app in ICS. So the operating system still matters somewhat. So it is good to have a choice here.

The only time I feel that the Note is too big is when I am in "dangerous" zones in the city where people could snatch your phone anytime! I mean if you take out a smaller phone, it would probably go unnoticed at 60% of times, but with the Note out in your hands, this huge beast will surely attracts everyone's attention in 99% rate!
Otherwise, I never encountered any so called problems that many people are complaining about!

Some adapt to Note's size, some don't. Good thing is that we have a choice. I'm really against Apple-like "one size fits all" philosophy.

from a gamer's perspective i say : f*ck all other phones, the screen is just perfect for my taste.

[DEBATE] What do you want to see in the next Galaxy S IV?

Since apparently the S IV is only a few months away...
I thought it would be a good idea to start this thread, about the expectations and demands of the public.
Would you like the next Galaxy S to retain it's current size? Or would you like it smaller or bigger?
Do you care for a faster processor or more ram? Or is the current generation already an overkill?
Would you like to see a new shape and new materials used in the SGS4?

same screen size (4.8" with oled)
exynos 5250
2gb ram
13megapx samsung camera
2500mah battery
hdmi+micro usb ports (without need hdmi-microusb adapter)
software up to date

wo-hoo! ( in Texas it would be a Yeehaw !) & wha-haha!
well to be honest, on my side i will keep my S3 at least 16-18 months from now, or at least until that rumored Galaxy S IV will become way cheaper than the initial release price
and that - because my S3 serves me damn well so far
Period
PS :screen with OLED only and not super AMOLED?

EdgaBimbam said:
same screen size (4.8" with oled)
exynos 5250
2gb ram
13megapx samsung camera
2500mah battery
hdmi+micro usb ports (without need hdmi-microusb adapter)
software up to date
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This, and Samsung need to ditch Touchwiz (I mean the whole GUI, not just the launcher). It's not doing them any favours now.
Pure Android would be much better, much cleaner and modern. More likely to tempt the "should I get a Samsung because the iPhone 5 is so dull?" crowd.

Flexible display
3day battery
must comply with some military standards for being dust, water and shock resistant
and should not have a considerable delay to get os update

sjgore said:
This, and Samsung need to ditch Touchwiz (I mean the whole GUI, not just the launcher). It's not doing them any favours now.
Pure Android would be much better, much cleaner and modern. More likely to tempt the "should I get a Samsung because the iPhone 5 is so dull?" crowd.
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yeh because touchwizz is making quad core cpu and 2gb rams joke. TW isnt well optimized+not so much features. I would be inlove if samsung would use something like apex launcher with all those features.

EdgaBimbam said:
same screen size (4.8" with oled)
exynos 5250
2gb ram
13megapx samsung camera
2500mah battery
hdmi+micro usb ports (without need hdmi-microusb adapter)
software up to date
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This plus :
Full HD Super Amoled+
SD card support
Removable battery
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1. 4.8 is ideal. If I want bigger, I can still buy Note series...I do not want any phone bigger as that...
2. I want all the things which SGS3 already has plus more RAM, better proc, better resolution screen and a lot better battery live somewhere near the battery live of my old Nokia 3310 LoL
3. Should be cheaper LoL ...the €599 price tag for the SGS3 pre-order (I bought it with pre-order) back then in June hurts...
4. Dedicated micro-HDMI port...not via MHL or something else...
5. Throw away TouchWiz!

I'm going to keep my S3 until the new 2013 Nexus phone comes I reckon so I'm not too fussed about the S4.
Just as long as Samsung keeps the two main reasons why I bought an S3 over a One X:
1. microSD card slot (love that my phone has 80GB of storage)
2. removable battery/large battery capacity
All the S4 really needs is amazing screen, amazing battery life and amazing storage option with a CPU and GPU to match. It's mostly the software side that I want to see more of a difference. Less Touchwiz, more Vanilla but still retain some of those useful Samsung motion features and improve upon them. More implementation of NFC sharing capabilities and a big push of touch payments by courting banks and organisations like VISA.

IMHO, Samsung knows the current size is maximum. When they say 5 inch screen, they may think of zero bezel frame so the whole size does not change or may be smaller.
I wish they keep the s3 goodies such as notification light, ext sd, removable batt, etc.
The case should be upgraded to ceramic. Yea.
Exinos 5250 or 5450 would be great.
True world phone please so we can use any carrier in the world with this s4 one device!
Bigger battery is always welcome. I hope they use the latest battery tech. so the size remains yet the capacity is doubled.
I believe the S4 will be a real monster. I feel that Samsung is determined to piss off apple with this.
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Holographic capabilities - I want a virtual stripper .
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I'd like to see them just copy the current iPhone design, they'll get accused of it anyway.
That way we can have a decent phone with a massive selection of covers and accessories!

Wish there will be a better casing ceramic not plastic but knowing samsung it will be plastic..also battery life is great on samsung devices (although i flashed li7 and it is poor but whatever) faster cpu wont be necessary as well as gpu but ram should be increased.. notification light is welcome as well but idk what should i buy next year hopefully u will try some htc phone or even nokia windows phone..
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I would also like a much more professional feeling weight/texture/material to the case. And please, show a MF to Apple and give us a more rectangular sleek design - not the oval soft edged design of the S3. I want my S4 to even 'look' cutting edge!
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I hate the Touch Wiz UI as well.
Whatever happened to that report long time back about Samsung hiring CyanogenMod founder, Steve Kondik??
Didn't that report come out sometime around Aug last year?
I stopped following that story after a while so sorry if I missed out on any big news about it after.
Can that be the big secret coming out with the S4?

More battery
ram 2gb
Screen not bigger than this
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I want bigger battery, more ram, and OLED. Nothing else. Though i wont get S4, because I'm on 2 year contract.
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Better build quality.
For other things i dont care, samsung will do everything like it should...

Good built quality. Like WAVE - I.
And more ram,
Please don't increase screen size anymore.

Bigger capacity battery, more important thing is unique body frame like Moto, HTC & Nokia.
Nothing to say except above two features.
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I seriously want it to look like this w/o the stylus of course.

Is it worth the updgrade?

Hi Guys. Looking for honest opinions on the Nexus 7 (2013) as I have the Nexus 7 (2012) 32Gb and am looking to upgrade. Want to know if it's worth it? I know the spec is better, but wanted some opinions of people who have used it to advise how it feels, have the touchscreen issues been fixed, and other reported issues with first batches. Many Thanks in advanced

Is an upgrade in every aspect of the first. The screen is sooooo much better and with the new processor there is zero lag. Those were my main two issues with the first and I'm extremely happy with the second one.
>^.^< Sent From Meow HTC One

I'm coming from the ASUS TF300T (10" tablet). Granted, I never used the OG N7, but the TF300T also has a Tegra 3 processor, just clocked a little slower.
Physical differences:
While the change in size was a little bit of an adjustment for me (took like 20mins of use), it quickly grew on to me. I can easily hold it with one hand, as opposed to resting the 10" across my upper arm/wrist. It also fits into the pocket of just about any of my pants, and you would never tell.
Speed vs. Lag:
I can tell you that the difference between the two is night and day. You barely notice the tab slow down if you are installing/updating apps. There were times where the browser would not respond to my pinches, but the navigation bar would still respond as normal. I'm not sure if that's a problem with the tablet, or with Chrome. Might be Chrome, but I haven't used ugh of the other browsers (except for Dolphin, which allows me to save my downloads where I want to before it begins).
Multitasking is awesome. You sometimes forget which apps were running in the background, but 8 different apps later, and the old ones still reload instantly, without any redraw.
Conclusion:
This was my short review of the N7.2. I know that I left out a lot of topics, but I listed the reasons why I switched. Yes, the OG N7 isn't slow, but going forward, you will begin to see where its older hardware begins to lag behind.
The upgrade isn't necessary, in my opinion, but it's worth the money. If it's too much of a sacrifice, then simply wait for something that's way better.
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Phone: HTC EVO 4G LTE
Rooted, Custom Rom & Kernel
Tablet: ASUS Nexus 7.2
Rooted, Stock Rom & Kernel

Big upgrade for me. The screen is much better, imo, and I don't have any touchscreen issues.
I like the slightly slimmer form factor, and the speed bump is noticeable to me.
No regrets upgrading from the original N7 here.

Look at it like this:
I am speaking from experience I own both models 2012 and 2013
Tegra 3 still kicks the adreno GPU's butt at games no matter what people try to tell me.Consider this....on the TEGRA N7 you can O.C you GPU to over 600 MHZ...its not the safest but its wayhigher and performs better than the 2013 model which tops out at UNDER 500MHZ.
I have both tablets on the same ROM with the same kernel running at their stock frequencies and tegra delivers better gaming despite the 2012 N7 screen being crappy.
Now... as far as overall smooth performance and usage the new N7 is the clear winner since it runs at higher frequencies and has a better CPU, better screen with higher ppi. You also have more RAM, dual speakers, two cameras, and less bezzel.
They are both great I own N7 2012 32GB wifi and N7 2013 32GB LTE.
I use my old one only for games so memory is full now and use my new one mainly for every thing from emails for work, apps, surfing and even voice calls with groove ip. you can still play games and they look great but I feel tegra is always going to deliver slightly and maybe even better gaming performance with future tegra chips.
hope it helps this is just my take on it
Edit: Don't get me wrong it is deffinitely an upgrade in every sense of the word, and I would say go and upgrade but it really depends what you use it for and if it makes sense to spend the money as well. The new N7 is a great device and I waited for it very much until the ATT version came out on GOOGLE PLAY.. just depends what you want it for that's all

sk8trix said:
Tegra 3 still kicks the adreno GPU's butt at games no matter what people try to tell me.Consider this....on the TEGRA N7 you can O.C you GPU to over 600 MHZ...its not the safest but its wayhigher and performs better than the 2013 model which tops out at UNDER 500MHZ.
I have both tablets on the same ROM with the same kernel running at their stock frequencies and tegra delivers better gaming despite the 2012 N7 screen being crappy.
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You must get a lot of people trying to tell you otherwise. Come on, the Adreno 320 dumps all over the Tegra 3's GPU both on paper and in benchmarks and pretty sure I've seen some actual game results too. It's also a widely known fact that that NVIDIA has always sucked for mobile GPU's, even still with the Tegra 4.
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Yeah hard to believe tegra 3 I could function better on games, even if you could oc the gpu a little higher.
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dud3me said:
Yeah hard to believe tegra 3 I could function better on games, even if you could oc the gpu a little higher.
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i have a tegra 3 device and an Xperia Z (adreno 320-1080p).
on the z every game works lagfree on highest graphics, on tegra there are a lot of lags and stutters.
Xperia Z-Vanir AOSP

Whether to upgrade or not is going to come down to personal wants and needs, I think.
My personal experience:
I've spent a total of probably an hour, over the course of a couple visits, playing with the 2013 model at a local store. That was enough device time for me to decide that the upgrade wasn't worth it....for me. I did everything I normally do (or as much as possible with a display model) on the 2013 and came away underwhelmed. For my needs (reading, email, news, calendar) I really couldn't tell the difference between the two (the screen included).
Anyway, my needs are obviously simple, so mileage will vary.

I have upgraded and can say: A huge improvement!
On the 2012 model, display contrast was poor, and text was not completely sharp - so you could read web sites with small text on it, but it was straining for the eyes, especially when the text was not black (e.g grey like in the Play Store or Youtube app).
On the 2013 model, all is very easily readable and eye-friendly (although my Tablet Z has even better contrast).
This alone is worth an upgrade.

I like my new Nexus 7, just as much as I enjoyed the 1st gen I had.
As the old model is an awesome tablet, I managed to sell it easily, and the price to upgrade was minimal, so that was a great incentive to upgrade. The new model has these improvements that I think is worth the upgrade:
A) the faster speed/processor plus the 2MB ram... everything is just slightly less laggy, most notably when multitasking many RAM-heavy apps at once, and switching back and forth between them
B) the dual/stereo speakers is a nice upgrade
C) the lack of any noticible pixels in the screen due to the massive resolution bump-up
D) the form factor of both models is excellent, but the new one is a bit lighter (quite a bit) plus thinner and all around better to handle
E) I don't have a cellphone, so the rear camera is a nice addition
Really though, both are excellent in all regards... I don't play GPU intensive games, so maybe there is a reason to upgrade as well, but I doubt it... If you can sell your 1st one easily, do it... Whoever gets your old one will be getting a killer tablet, and you will be (slightly) future-proofing yourself by having the latest and greatest.

GoneTomorrow said:
You must get a lot of people trying to tell you otherwise. Come on, the Adreno 320 dumps all over the Tegra 3's GPU both on paper and in benchmarks and pretty sure I've seen some actual game results too. It's also a widely known fact that that NVIDIA has always sucked for mobile GPU's, even still with the Tegra 4.
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Tegra 4 GPU isn't that bad. It's just a bit better than Adreno 320 but behind 330.

I have the tf300 and now the n7 2013, I think for browsing and other small things they are equally smooth (provided you run 4.3 on the tf300, otherwise it's laggy as hell) but I have to say this screen is beautiful, as good as the HTC one x (which is pretty damn good, just not as good as the HTC one), font in portrait are crisp and easy to read, unlike for instance the tf300 which could really only be used in landscape. Viewing angles are good too unlike for instance the tablet z.

GoneTomorrow said:
You must get a lot of people trying to tell you otherwise. Come on, the Adreno 320 dumps all over the Tegra 3's GPU both on paper and in benchmarks and pretty sure I've seen some actual game results too. It's also a widely known fact that that NVIDIA has always sucked for mobile GPU's, even still with the Tegra 4.
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I don't go by benchmarks benchmarks are useless... I play the same game on both and I notice the tegra 3 will play them way better regardless what a piece paper says. I don't wanna try to convince you because it really doesn't do anything for me lol but having both I can see the differences and where one beats the other.
Its very funny you bring up benchmark results though and amusing....I guess you haven't read all the recent stuff about how most OEMS cheat benchmarks but then again some people will believe whatever they're told. I guess if I tell u apples are blue you'd believe it.
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sk8trix said:
I don't go by benchmarks benchmarks are useless... I play the same game on both and I notice the tegra 3 will play them way better regardless what a piece paper says. I don't wanna try to convince you because it really doesn't do anything for me lol but having both I can see the differences and where one beats the other.
Its very funny you bring up benchmark results though and amusing....I guess you haven't read all the recent stuff about how most OEMS cheat benchmarks but then again some people will believe whatever they're told. I guess if I tell u apples are blue you'd believe it.
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Well most of those benchmarks have the exact same workload as playing a game, thus it is impossible for a GPU 3x faster in such benchmarks to be slower in a game, unless there are serious issues with the game itself.
Also, you must be too slow to comprehend what you read, otherwise you'd know that stock Android devices (Nexuses) don't cheat in any way. Therefore how could OEMs cheating in benchmarks affect comparing a Nexus 7 2012 to 2013 in any way whatsoever? Lol you should probably just stop posting you obviously have no idea what you are on about.

GoneTomorrow said:
Well most of those benchmarks have the exact same workload as playing a game, thus it is impossible for a GPU 3x faster in such benchmarks to be slower in a game, unless there are serious issues with the game itself.
Also, you must be too slow to comprehend what you read, otherwise you'd know that stock Android devices (Nexuses) don't cheat in any way. Therefore how could OEMs cheating in benchmarks affect comparing a Nexus 7 2012 to 2013 in any way whatsoever? Lol you should probably just stop posting you obviously have no idea what you are on about.
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agreed.

Note 10.1 vs iPad Air

I'm reading opinions on the internet, watching reviews, tests, comparisons between new Note tablet and iPad Air but I still cant decide which device choose. I'm android user, Id rather buy android tablet than iOS but many many opinions on youtube and xda also says that Note has lags and device is very slow.. I know that there is S pen and its unique functionality on tablets market but it's not important thing to me, even if i would fall in love with stylus. For me most important is smoothness. So iPad is great because of smooth experience, and great tablet-optimized apps (design also is great but it doesn't matter). Note has SD slot and android so there would be easy to share files between my devices (i'm using Galaxy S4). I would stand every inconvenience of android if the tablet wasn't laggy and slow. There is many people who has Air and returned it to get Note and it would be great if they join discussion.

Hello Patroy,
I have been an apple fan for a long time but when I got my iPhone 5S I was really angry at how crap the phone and OS was. I'm giving my girlfriend my iPad 4 and staying with android now. I looked on youtube and there wasn't too many videos relating to the note 10.1 2014, so I decided to make some.
iPhone 5S(IOS7) and why I am switching to Android:
TL;DR: iPhone 5S was a huge letdown and IOS7 is baaaad.
Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 First impressions:
TL;DR: Note 10.1 2014 is pretty lag free and performs better than the iPhone 5S/iPad4.
I'm also recording some new videos relating to Touchwiz, Optimizations, IOS7vsAndroid,Apps, Games, etc. If there is a video you would like me to make, feel free to ask.
edit: Benchmarks are done. 10.1 = 2x better than iPad 4 and equal to iPad air. 10.1 wins overall. Video will be up in an hour or 2.

But i cant see if something runs smooth or not, because of low FPS rate in your video camera..

After performing all of the updates, the only lag I experience is the wakeup lag in the lock screen. I'm sure this can be fixed by installing some custom Roms that will come available soon.everything else is extremly smooth unlike other galaxy devices I have used in the past

Patroy said:
But i cant see if something runs smooth or not, because of low FPS rate in your video camera..
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l don t want to ruin Surprise , but the Galaxy 10.1 has the least lag. Far less laggy than the A7 in iPhone 5 (same specs as ipad air). This 10.1 is literallhnearly completely lag free, unlike ios7. Looking forward to showing the benchmark video whe its finished rendering.
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But what benchmarks means? Nothing... There was thread, where someones couldn't turn high quality textures in some racing game on 10.1, because of the app which is not optimized for that tablet and that resolution. I would be pleased if someone will show me video with software tour where there won't be any lags or slowdowns

Patroy said:
But what benchmarks means? Nothing... There was thread, where someones couldn't turn high quality textures in some racing game on 10.1, because of the app which is not optimized for that tablet and that resolution. I would be pleased if someone will show me video with software tour where there won't be any lags or slowdowns
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Im not talking about just benchmarks. The UI and everything is more fluid. Higher FPS and definitely smoother than ios7. The reason that racing game couldn't go high was because the developer didnt know such a bigh resolution device existed and is being sorted now so we can play highest in the next update. I have played Dead Trigger 2 and Real Racing 3 and they both look better o tbis tabket because of the higher resolution and some ga es have better effects. I wish my camera wasnt so bad because there is no lag or slowdowns.
On the ipad we saw a game benchmark where the game was getting 7fps at times on the ipad 4 (iphone 5s/ipad air around 13fps) and o the tab the lowest fps it got to was 17fps and that was very very rare. The lag was noticable on my iphone 5s and very rareoy happened on this tab.

That's interesting, i REALLY want an android tablet.. its so hard to decide without touching it in real

Patroy said:
That's interesting, i REALLY want an android tablet.. its so hard to decide without touching it in real
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I have a 3rd gen I pad because back then everything offered by Android was pretty much beta. Went and bought an I pad air few weeks ago played with but it bored me to hell.. no innovation on apples part. Went and bought a note 10.1 and wow the device actually feels like a step forward. I haven't been able to put it down. Learning all the little tips/tricks is actually enjoyable. The spen really comes in handy and the multi tasking windows beats all. Sure it has a little lag here in there but nothing that keeps you from doing some thing. The Air would just crash the app and i think it has something to do with the 1 gig of memory off loading. Anyways yes the air has better battery life but note can still do 10 hours np. My air is going back.

Go into a electronic shop and play with the Note 10.1 for 10mins then go do the same with the Ipad Air. I bet you will get bored of the Air straightaway...Apple is just soo boring now.
I used to love Apple ages ago because they truely kicked started Smartphones and Tablets and they were the best in my eyes. But now I find them soo boring and android phones and tablets have not only caught uo but passed Apple. Each to their own i guess...If you still prefer the Air after playing with both well then you know which one to buy.
My Note hasnt been laggy once and I havent had issues that some claim. And I'm like you, i didnt really care for the spen much but i find myself using it more and more...Truley awesome.
Eitherway they are both great products when you really think about it, just the Note is Miles Miles better

I was searching for note in electronic shop but i couldn't find them anywhere, I was playing with the Air and I agree with you its booring and after 15 mins of using it i figured out that I know everything about this os but i was thinking there is nothing better than the ipad now. My first plan was buying nexus 10 2013 but id turned out that N10 2013 doesn't exist...

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Turns out after slme customizations, my note 10.1 has 14 hour battery life. Beats my ipad by a few hours. Awesome.

Here's a pretty good review comparing the two...
http://pocketnow.com/2013/11/11/ipad-air-vs-galaxy-note-10-1

The only time I really experienced lag with my Note 10.1 2014 edition was when I first got mine, but I had pre-ordered so I got it the day of release. . The lag was definitely a software issue but all new products have some sorts of issues but they get fixed fairly quickly. After about a week give or take Samsung released an update which helped speed things up. Later after that they released another update to smooth things out further. Currently, my Note runs perfectly; very smooth and fast. I can't really speak on the Ipad's part, as I have not owned one.

BarryH_GEG said:
Here's a pretty good review comparing the two...
http://pocketnow.com/2013/11/11/ipad-air-vs-galaxy-note-10-1
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Yes, i watched almost every comparison on yt and here we can se how laggy is note and how smooth is the Air

Patroy said:
Yes, i watched almost every comparison on yt and here we can se how laggy is note and how smooth is the Air
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The iPad Air does a fraction of what the N10.1-14 does functionally. Strip out simple multitasking, multiview, S Pen, and all the other creation features and the N10.1-14 would be equally fluid. Android as an OS is just as fluid as iOS in AOSP form. That is until you start adding in tons of apps and syncs that create open threads and consume resources which the N10.1-14 has tons of to power its features. So people have a choice - limited functionality and completely smooth transitions or tons of functionality, true multitasking, and, in the N10.1-14's case, the best creation and productivity tool on the planet and deal with the occasional millisecond long stutter. I choose the latter and don't feel the N10.1-14 lags in any noticeable or chronic way. People looking for a pretty display to read, browse, and consume media probably should buy an iPad; that's who they are made for.

Patroy said:
That's interesting, i REALLY want an android tablet.. its so hard to decide without touching it in real
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Just go into best buy or frys and play with it for a while. Nobody here is going to have the same opinion as you will on how "laggy" the tablet is.
Not that i dont enjoy the discussion but at this point, we have given you our opinion, so all that's left is to try it.
Another option is to just buy it on Amazon, if you dont like it, then return it.
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I have both, got my note 10.1 yesterday. Both have their pros and cons and I honestly enjoy using both. My note is the Wi-Fi octa core version, I wish it had the Snapdragon 800 instead.
I'd say the screens are almost equal, maybe a slight edge to the iPad. Audio quality threw headphones is pretty much even, the iPad speakers are better.
Hopefully the dev support will pick up for the note. I'd love to have cm 11 on this.
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iLagPad Air is a POS. Don't listen to people and the hype but actually try one yourself. This is what I notice right away within the first 5 minutes:
- Two types of Safari browser lag.
- First type is jello, flag or wave effect. Hold the iLagPad in portrait orientation, browse to The Verge (just as an example although I don't recommend that site as they lick Apple sponsor's nuts and will filter any negative facts) in full desktop mode, scroll up and down casually, look at the horizontal edges of the big page wide blocks where it suffers from the wavy flaggy jello effect because the GPU can't keep up with the resolution.
- Second type appears to be vsync which makes vertical scrolling look consistent but slow at about 20fps. For example, vertically flick scroll through The Verge's main page in full desktop mode as quickly as you can from top to bottom. It takes about 3 seconds. Do the same on a Note 3 with the current version of Chrome and it's about one second.
With extended use you'll run into more serious issues like blue screen of death and low memory crashes:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/23817728
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5532206

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With extended use you'll run into more serious issues like blue screen of death and low memory crashes:
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Those links were interesting; especially the low memory one. I don't follow Apple products and just assume from reviews they are "utopianly perfect." I guess the grass really isn't greener on the other side, just "different."

Overall speed

Would you say that the Samsung Galaxy S9 is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Samsung Galaxy S9 exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Home button delays the same as in Galaxy S8, that's why you don't remove the physical one

I have owned the exynos variant for about 2 weeks. I use it having decreased the animation time and there is absolutely no stutter. I've come for the s7 which is no slouch and can feel that this is the most refined experience yet. You can't go wrong. I can't lie I had 'terrible' battery for about 1 and half weeks. But it's much better now.

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I have owned the exynos variant for about 2 weeks. I use it having decreased the animation time and there is absolutely no stutter. I've come for the s7 which is no slouch and can feel that this is the most refined experience yet. You can't go wrong. I can't lie I had 'terrible' battery for about 1 and half weeks. But it's much better now.
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How about the gpu performance?

kyooohei08 said:
How about the gpu performance?
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Definitely no sloucher in gaming performance. Does not lack performance whatsoever, can handle all games including the Honkai Impact 3 at max settings with no fps drops. Its basically the second best gaming performer right now outperformed by the SD845. but although battery life is not bad, apparently SD845 is better in every way. This year i'd actually consider the SD845. What device do you currently own? Because that way i might advise you wait for the S10 where they will actually improve efficiently a lot with the new 7nm chips.
Edit: Don't get me wrong, i love the S9 even though i owned the S7 previously. The features it includes such as the Dolby Atmos supported stereo speakers, headphone jack and the great experience Touchwiz offers in my opinion. Touchwiz just looks better than stock android which otherwise is boring in my opinion and other manufacturers are still refining their experience. And if you don't like touchwiz? Get a launcher or even change your theme to your liking. Hopefully Samsung will increase the amount of software updates due to Project Treble support too.
It's just that depending on your device and its state, i'd wait for the S10 which i reckon will be the 'holy grail' (unless they somehow screw it up). By then performance wouldn't be a issue whatsoever and battery life should increase and hopefully capacity too.
Any more questions feel free to ask. I'm willing to help.

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Definitely no sloucher in gaming performance. Does not lack performance whatsoever, can handle all games including the Honkai Impact 3 at max settings with no fps drops. Its basically the second best gaming performer right now outperformed by the SD845. but although battery life is not bad, apparently SD845 is better in every way. This year i'd actually consider the SD845. What device do you currently own? Because that way i might advise you wait for the S10 where they will actually improve efficiently a lot with the new 7nm chips.
Any more questions feel free to ask. I'm willing to help.
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Woah thank you alot! Im having this kind of feeling where I am dissatisfied with the s9, especially with exynos, yet you made me calm. I got s5 from Dubai with Snapdragon which is surprising since SD is only available in US and in China, and this year, I hope that my model going to have on 13th of April is SD too. Im really excited! Anyways, coming from s5 to s9 is considerably a "good" upgrade, isnt? My screen is dying and it cant wait for s10 anymore :laugh:

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Woah thank you alot! Im having this kind of feeling where I am dissatisfied with the s9, especially with exynos, yet you made me calm. I got s5 from Dubai with Snapdragon which is surprising since SD is only available in US and in China, and this year, I hope that my model going to have on 13th of April is SD too. Im really excited! Anyways, coming from s5 to s9 is considerably a "good" upgrade, isnt? My screen is dying and it cant wait for s10 anymore :laugh:
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Most definitely, an upgrade from the s5 to s9 will be huge.
What i'd recommend you do to get around 4 and a half hours of screen on time is the following.
Turn off location services. Or revoke app permissions for any app that doesn't require it. Including Google maps because for some reason it tracks where you are constantly. That is if you prefer it on for Samsung find my phone.
Get a dark theme. And and try to keep your wallpapers dark once you've enabled it because for oled screens, only the required pixels turn on. I currently use Black_Edition_V2
Turn off NFC (unless you pay using your phone)
Go to Wifi, advanced (click the 3 dots on top right) and enable Wifi power saving mode. and disable turn on wifi automatically.
Enable power saving mode (Only turn on decreased 10% screen brightness, don't limit CPU or any of that.) Screen is super bright already so you won't notice a difference but apparently you get an extra hour of stand by time.
Turn on Dolby Atmos (it's off automatically for some reason)
Depending on your usage or preference, disable or enable always on display. I personally have it on a schedule.
Give it just over a week or so to learn your usage behaviour and once a week or so for the first month, discharge your phone fully and recharge fully.
Also what i'd recommend is turning on developer mode and putting animator duration scale to 0.5x. Your phone will feel much faster, and it'll be able to keep up so don't worry. This is your preference.
I might have missed some things, but this is what the basic changes are. But compared to the S5, it will be a beast. With all the android phones out there having notches, i reckon the S9 is still the best all in one device!
Otherwise enjoy your phone!!! :good:

stevenl23 said:
Most definitely, an upgrade from the s5 to s9 will be huge.
What i'd recommend you do to get around 4 and a half hours of screen on time is the following.
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Otherwise enjoy your phone!!! :good:
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Wow truly helpful! Im pretty sure alot will benefit as well from your post. Very informative. Thanks mate!

best and faster speed thanks a lot of <a herf="https://rojgarresult24.com/">vijay singh</a>

With the latest update to Pie, have noticed very good performance

stevenl23 said:
Most definitely, an upgrade from the s5 to s9 will be huge.
What i'd recommend you do to get around 4 and a half hours of screen
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Yes, changing s5 to s9 will be good, but I couldn't stop laughing at second sentence...
Check this:
crdroid oreo plus some fiddling with mtweaks:
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8hrs and 3 mins sot, 10% batt left.
7.5 hrs fhd content playback with gettube with wifi on, plus background download plus some other things(that took another 30 mins).
No battery savers, etc.
CrDroid 4.7, Ainur MK III, ViperFx 2.6.0.4., JDSP 1.9., Aimp 2.90. Soundset, that melts brain in action. Every player uses this snd driver's replacement set there(magisk+lowlevel setups for sound)...so.
F dolby bs and stock system.