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AutoKiller minfree manager

Hi,
I have released my minfree manager. this app is designed to help make your phone run smoother
AutoKiller 0.8.2b
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Features:
- simple/advanced mode
- presets
- settings reapply on boot (no init file hacking, i use a service)
- pages/mb views
come on, check the main thread.

Interesting, thanks! I'll test it but I'm not convinced that it could really speed up the phone (I don't think task killers do, either). Having free memory in Android is basically useless from what I understand.

swissp said:
Interesting, thanks! I'll test it but I'm not convinced that it could really speed up the phone (I don't think task killers do, either). Having free memory in Android is basically useless from what I understand.
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i agree that free memory is useless, but background processes can consume resources worthless, this app (minfree setting) can keep balance between cached programs in background and unnecessary processes eating up mem and possibly cpu, battery. this wont make you have the set amount of memory empty, just kill types of processes when a certain memory level is reached. for more details i suggest to read the original forum at xda forum

ratson said:
i agree that free memory is useless, but background processes can consume resources worthless, this app (minfree setting) can keep balance between cached programs in background and unnecessary processes eating up mem and possibly cpu, battery. this wont make you have the set amount of memory empty, just kill types of processes when a certain memory level is reached. for more details i suggest to read the original forum at xda forum
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i lol every time people say that. apps in the background consume ram as well. ending them will phree ram. thats like saying the 10mb hack doesn't do anything because its just extra memory which is useless.

I don't think it makes it faster, but rather keeps it clean and manages memory so it does not end up lagging. Works great for me. You just need to pay attention to the settings.

0.9b is out, go get it

[Q] RAM usage...

My RAM is always at about 250/328MB
Is it possible to lower that amount used?
Would it help speed things up a little? Wondering if that would help with the problem that sometimes when I back out of a program or app or hit the 'home' button all that comes up is my background pic and it sometimes takes 20 seconds or so for my apps to appear on the screen.
My 'home screen' just has the Samsung widget Program monitor on it and I usually try and keep that at 0 so Im not running programs Im not using anymore.
Thanks

Get app killers and a program that does garbage collecting to force the release of memory
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ruoppster said:
Get app killers and a program that does garbage collecting to force the release of memory
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I would avoid that as it will likely cause problems. Android will have a high memory usage when everything is running fine and normally. It leaves frequently used apps in memory so it takes less time to open them when you need them. It will also free up and allocate memory automatically as needed. If the system gets low on memory, it will free it up from somewhere else. Task killers will just create lag as they will close stuff that likely should be running, or needs to be running. Killing them just creates lag by forcing them to restart. Same goes with other applications, like the browser, email, gmail and messaging that people likely use frequently. Killing them will just make it take longer when you go to open them up again.

not totally true...if you know what you are doing then freeing memory by killing apps that you don't use everyday makes machine run smoother...installed about 400 apps which caused auto start ups to cause machine to run super slow with about 40-60 megs free.
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ruoppster said:
not totally true...if you know what you are doing then freeing memory by killing apps that you don't use everyday makes machine run smoother...installed about 400 apps which caused auto start ups to cause machine to run super slow with about 40-60 megs free.
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Just hold down your home button, there's a task manager built in... end all of the apps you aren't using.

True but I was thinking more about processes...rss doesn't work right now so I kill the two processes...stuff like that and gtalk and skype
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the best thing to do is root your phone then get an app like titanium backup and freeze the bloatware or the apps you dont use. i have done this and it has freed up something like 20-50 mb of ram

imnuts said:
I would avoid that as it will likely cause problems. Android will have a high memory usage when everything is running fine and normally. It leaves frequently used apps in memory so it takes less time to open them when you need them. It will also free up and allocate memory automatically as needed. If the system gets low on memory, it will free it up from somewhere else. Task killers will just create lag as they will close stuff that likely should be running, or needs to be running. Killing them just creates lag by forcing them to restart. Same goes with other applications, like the browser, email, gmail and messaging that people likely use frequently. Killing them will just make it take longer when you go to open them up again.
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While that is true, if youre smart about the apps you kill,you'll extend your battery life and increase your ram. Dont kill things like task manager, voice command, and any widgets you're using. like imnuts was saying, if you kill those apps, youre decreasing your battery life and create lag because theyll reopen on their own and are essential for the phone to run. U want to kill things like phone, messaging, facebook, cachemate, and other things that dont automatically quit when u exit them and arent essential for the phone to run. once ur finished with them and dont need to use them again u can kill it. The task manager that comes with the phone only detects apps that are left open using the home button. Also, dont use live wallpapers and widgets u dont use. Use setcpu and a debloated rom, and that should help as well.
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You earned this one today Biz
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hahahahahhahahaha

Get rid of touch wiz, get gingebread launcher. Frees it up tons.
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......Ive been reading as many dev and general posts as I can just tryin to learn amap... jus got continuum less than month ago and rooted with soc got cwm 3 runnin bout to flash first rom so many thanks to all and to make long srory longer I would just like to say one thing...... hahahahah.........you guys are cracking me up at 4 in the am
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S4 Keeps Freezing

Hi all,
My S4 (4G 16GB Snapdragon) keeps freezing when it is locked, e.g. in my pocket, on my desk at work etc. It also sometimes freezes when it is charging overnight. It was doing this non stop but after I deleted AVG it seemed to have stopped. This morning my phone froze again while it was charging overnight. This has become a critical issue not only for the phone, but for me since I use the alarm to wake myself up for work.
The apps I have downloaded include:
-Advanced Task Manager
-Real Racing 3
-Air Navy Fighters
-Flashlight
-Viber
-Whatsapp
-Speed Test
-Skype
-My data manager
-MTR Mobile
-Facebook
-Personal Notes (not sure how this got onto my phone).
The phone is not rooted and using the standard operating system.
Has anyone had any similar issues? Is it perhaps one of the apps which could be causing this? I'm going to start trial and error process of deleting 1 app every 2 days to see if the issue continues. It would be great though if anyone knows the answer straight up, so that I dont have to spend a long time trialing the different apps. Perhaps it could be an issue with the phone itself and not the apps I've installed.
- This also leads me to my next question, is it bad for my phone or battery to be plugged in and charging all night long?
Thanks everyone
Rob

-Advanced Task Manager ???
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Come ooon Bob why you need a Task Manager?
You have already pre-installed stock one.
I recommending to factory reset all phone with full wipe on internal memory. (copy important files before)
Don't use Advanced Task Manager. It was many debate why this apps is bad

Wow thanks for the prompt reply.
I didn't realise my phone has a pre-install task manager. How do I access this?
Does that mean that theres absolutely no point in having a "non standard task manager" installed on the phone?
I have done a factory reset before, but that didn't change anything. So you are pretty sure its the task manager that's giving me trouble?

Robert_89 said:
Wow thanks for the prompt reply.
I didn't realise my phone has a pre-install task manager. How do I access this?
Does that mean that theres absolutely no point in having a "non standard task manager" installed on the phone?
I have done a factory reset before, but that didn't change anything. So you are pretty sure its the task manager that's giving me trouble?
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Hi Robert. If you interesting about it, I recommending to you read this one of the many threads
Proponents of task killers notice that Android is using a lot of RAM – in fact, Android stores a lot of apps in its memory, filling up the RAM! However, that isn’t a bad thing. Apps stored in your RAM can be quickly switched to without Android having to load them from its slower storage.
In summary, you shouldn’t use a task killer – if you have a misbehaving app wasting resources in the background, you should identify it and uninstall it. But don’t just remove apps from your phone or tablet’s RAM – that doesn’t help speed anything up.
Empty RAM is useless. Full RAM is RAM that is being put to good use for caching apps. If Android needs more memory, it will force-quit an app that you haven’t used in a while – this all happens automatically, without installing any task killers.
Task killers think they know better than Android. They run in the background, automatically quitting apps and removing them from Android’s memory. They may also allow you to force-quit apps on your own, but you shouldn’t have to do this.
Task killers aren’t just useless – they can reduce performance. If a task killer removes an app from your RAM and you open that app again, the app will be slower to load as Android is forced to load it from your device’s storage. This will also use more battery power than if you just left the app in your RAM in the first place. Some apps will automatically restart after the task killer quits them, using more CPU and battery resources.
Whether RAM is empty or full, it takes the same amount of battery power – decreasing the amount of apps stored in RAM won’t improve your battery power or offer more CPU cycles.
hope u understood.
Also samsung included a stock task manager.
Press and hold home button.
Then check my attached picture

avetny said:
Hi Robert. If you interesting about it, I recommending to you read this one of the many threads
Proponents of task killers notice that Android is using a lot of RAM – in fact, Android stores a lot of apps in its memory, filling up the RAM! However, that isn’t a bad thing. Apps stored in your RAM can be quickly switched to without Android having to load them from its slower storage.
In summary, you shouldn’t use a task killer – if you have a misbehaving app wasting resources in the background, you should identify it and uninstall it. But don’t just remove apps from your phone or tablet’s RAM – that doesn’t help speed anything up.
Empty RAM is useless. Full RAM is RAM that is being put to good use for caching apps. If Android needs more memory, it will force-quit an app that you haven’t used in a while – this all happens automatically, without installing any task killers.
Task killers think they know better than Android. They run in the background, automatically quitting apps and removing them from Android’s memory. They may also allow you to force-quit apps on your own, but you shouldn’t have to do this.
Task killers aren’t just useless – they can reduce performance. If a task killer removes an app from your RAM and you open that app again, the app will be slower to load as Android is forced to load it from your device’s storage. This will also use more battery power than if you just left the app in your RAM in the first place. Some apps will automatically restart after the task killer quits them, using more CPU and battery resources.
Whether RAM is empty or full, it takes the same amount of battery power – decreasing the amount of apps stored in RAM won’t improve your battery power or offer more CPU cycles.
hope u understood.
Also samsung included a stock task manager.
Press and hold home button.
Then check my attached picture
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Thanks Avetny, there's alot of great information there.
Both your comments and the link make complete sense. I actually never realised that Android doesn't perform in the same manner that windows does.
I've deleted the task manager after your first comment. My device is actually running faster and the battery is more efficient too.:good:
I really appreciate you going to the effort of sending the links/information/photo.
I'll report back if this has fixed my freezing problem.
Thanks again :highfive:
Rob

You are welcome Rob. Stay tuned
Best Regards
-Avetis

Fortunately the phone has not frozen since, both the battery efficiency and response time has significantly improved

Questions about battery draining...

Hello, I have got the Note 4 you see in my sign..
I'm wondering why my Note 4 has this heavy draining mainly by 2 processes (Android System and Android Operating System).
As you can notice in attachment the processes I said drain about the same percentage of Screen On.
What do you think about this issue?
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umby75 said:
Hello, I have got the Note 4 you see in my sign..
I'm wondering why my Note 4 has this heavy draining mainly by 2 processes (Android System and Android Operating System).
As you can notice in attachment the processes I said drain about the same percentage of Screen On.
What do you think about this issue?
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Probably, you should uninstall Clean Master and the like. I think it's the real culprit here

pr1jker said:
Probably, you should uninstall Clean Master and the like. I think it's the real culprit here
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I've been using Clean Master for a long time and I've never had this issue before.
However Clean Master consumes "only" 12% as the item says..
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Uninstall Clean Master. Those apps are meaningless.

ithehappy said:
Uninstall Clean Master. Those apps are meaningless.
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Clean Master helps for the Junk Files. What do you suggest for junk? Clean Master?
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2 ppl already said cleanmaster unnecessary as we already got smart manager. imho, all apps alike clean master / antivirus are unneeded in smartphone.
back to topic, did you just flash / reset your phone? cause this is normal.

umby75 said:
Clean Master helps for the Junk Files. What do you suggest for junk? Clean Master?
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Use SD Maid for cleaning. It has other useful features as well.

jimdorky said:
2 ppl already said cleanmaster unnecessary as we already got smart manager. imho, all apps alike clean master / antivirus are unneeded in smartphone.
back to topic, did you just flash / reset your phone? cause this is normal.
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I'm sorry..I was wrong in my previous post when I asked which app do you suggest me. I meant to say CCleaner but the answer I think should be the same.
To be honest I deactivated the optimisation app for battery in Smart Manager. But now I'll enable this feature.
However I noticed Smart Manager for junk files is powered by Clean Master (you find written that next to unnecessary data in Smart Manager).
I don't remember if I've ever resetted my phone (probably only some wipe Dalvik cache) but I wouldn't like reinstall all things and I should spend a lot of time to recreate folders, shortcut, etc...[emoji27]
You consider that I don't have root access for use of Titanium Backup..
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CCleaner should not affect your phone to this extent. It's not the problem.
I find that Google Framework services are the problem.
Look for both the newest Google Play store AND Google Play Services apk online (apkmirror or androidpit) make sure you get the right ones for your phone - they'll tell you how to check.
Go to App Manager and clear caches for these apps or disable if you can.
Install the new ones.
This may or may not work, it's hit and miss. I had the same problems with my S6 edge +, and this did it for me.
Some people don't like cleaners - I do. I use 360 and Greenify and at times, Deep Sleep Battery Saver.
And I use SdMaid for deep cleaning.
Shutapp and Doze work very well for my LgG4.
Whatever people say, I have increased performance with these apps, and with Greenify I have extended battery during screen off - I've tested it extensively.
The key to improved battery life in all cases is to fine tune your 'white lists' and to be sure that these apps THEMSELVES are not running in the background.
With the apps I've mentioned there's no problem, I've never used CCleaner on my phone.
The Battery optimisation that comes with Samsung is VERY good though. You must make sure you go through ALL the apps and select 'always optimising' except for those few (clock, calendar, Nova AND the external optimization apps you have installed, i.e. CCleaner in this case) which you select 'never optimising.' It makes a big difference.
You'll see that Google Framework Services cannot be optimized.
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Google Play Service consums that percentage as it's shown in picture I shared you.
I worried about that two processes of Android System with a very high percentage.
In my phone I have a very large battery by Zerolemon and I don't mind to deactivate some processes like background apps.
I don't know how Samsung Optimisation works and for now I setted Optimisation every three days for all apps.
@kolembo
Why do you suggest me to exclude optimisation of clock, calendar, et. apps?
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I want to thank you all because after the optimisation (Smart Manager) the battery discharges very slowly..and with this large battery is very quite!
But how does it work Smart Manager?
Do we have some other apps in other phones to get the same outcome??
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Marshmallow have memory leak just like 5.0

Marshmallow have memory leak just like 5.0, that was fixed in 5.1 most likely the story will return once again and it will be fixed with 6.1
Hopefully also M7 will get 6.1 .
I there for just want to recommend to restart your phone atleast One time per day, since your device will become slower and slower it is on because of the memory leak. and it is not just huawei it is the same on all marshmallow phones, it is a google problem right now.

Do you have some details?

presswurst said:
Do you have some details?
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...allow-memory-leak-issue-fixed-future-release/

my phone never slows down

63 hrs stanby, 1.22 GB RAM free, works as fast as after reboot. What am I doing wrong?

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63 hrs stanby, 1.22 GB RAM free, works as fast as after reboot. What am I doing wrong?
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Unused RAM is wasted RAM. LMK on MM on our device is catastrophic. I have random closing apps like FB, FB Msg, Viber in middle of writing messages... And I'm not the only one...
Cached processes screen. You see here should be all apps that you exited via home button and it should it load quickly just like you bring minimized app on pc - it should be instant and it shouldn't reload it like our device is doing.
Free ram should be around 50-60 MB max all other ram should be used for cacheing background processes. Huawei software department need some help with understanding how RAM should be used.
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Where the fck are my fb, fb msg and others apps that i need to access quickly without reloading them?
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presswurst said:
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Pablo87 said:
Unused RAM is wasted RAM. LMK on MM on our device is catastrophic. I have random closing apps like FB, FB Msg, Viber in middle of writing messages... And I'm not the only one...
Cached processes screen. You see here should be all apps that you exited via home button and it should it load quickly just like you bring minimized app on pc - it should be instant and it shouldn't reload it like our device is doing.
Free ram should be around 50-60 MB max all other ram should be used for cacheing background processes. Huawei software department need some help with understanding how RAM should be used.
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Where the fck are my fb, fb msg and others apps that i need to access quickly without reloading them?
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Reminds me of one plus 3 that released a phone with 6 gb but only use 4 gb of it. It is indeed. Memory is there to be used.
Anyway. I also have random close downs of apps especially kik but also other apps I think it is the memory leak on 6.0 that I'd to blame but this is a Google problem not a Huawei.

Still, no news regarding this >> https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=195104
(Anyone noticed otherwise with the August security update?)
I m on 4.4.4 (S5), thinking whether or not to upgrade to 6.0.1. Probably worths it, right?
Isn't there a practical workaround for this issue? Like certain apps (e.g. Clean Master), that clean memory/cache a good alternative? Does garbagge still accumulate on the system after long usage?