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[Q] RAM usage...

My RAM is always at about 250/328MB
Is it possible to lower that amount used?
Would it help speed things up a little? Wondering if that would help with the problem that sometimes when I back out of a program or app or hit the 'home' button all that comes up is my background pic and it sometimes takes 20 seconds or so for my apps to appear on the screen.
My 'home screen' just has the Samsung widget Program monitor on it and I usually try and keep that at 0 so Im not running programs Im not using anymore.
Thanks

Get app killers and a program that does garbage collecting to force the release of memory
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ruoppster said:
Get app killers and a program that does garbage collecting to force the release of memory
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I would avoid that as it will likely cause problems. Android will have a high memory usage when everything is running fine and normally. It leaves frequently used apps in memory so it takes less time to open them when you need them. It will also free up and allocate memory automatically as needed. If the system gets low on memory, it will free it up from somewhere else. Task killers will just create lag as they will close stuff that likely should be running, or needs to be running. Killing them just creates lag by forcing them to restart. Same goes with other applications, like the browser, email, gmail and messaging that people likely use frequently. Killing them will just make it take longer when you go to open them up again.

not totally true...if you know what you are doing then freeing memory by killing apps that you don't use everyday makes machine run smoother...installed about 400 apps which caused auto start ups to cause machine to run super slow with about 40-60 megs free.
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ruoppster said:
not totally true...if you know what you are doing then freeing memory by killing apps that you don't use everyday makes machine run smoother...installed about 400 apps which caused auto start ups to cause machine to run super slow with about 40-60 megs free.
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Just hold down your home button, there's a task manager built in... end all of the apps you aren't using.

True but I was thinking more about processes...rss doesn't work right now so I kill the two processes...stuff like that and gtalk and skype
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the best thing to do is root your phone then get an app like titanium backup and freeze the bloatware or the apps you dont use. i have done this and it has freed up something like 20-50 mb of ram

imnuts said:
I would avoid that as it will likely cause problems. Android will have a high memory usage when everything is running fine and normally. It leaves frequently used apps in memory so it takes less time to open them when you need them. It will also free up and allocate memory automatically as needed. If the system gets low on memory, it will free it up from somewhere else. Task killers will just create lag as they will close stuff that likely should be running, or needs to be running. Killing them just creates lag by forcing them to restart. Same goes with other applications, like the browser, email, gmail and messaging that people likely use frequently. Killing them will just make it take longer when you go to open them up again.
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While that is true, if youre smart about the apps you kill,you'll extend your battery life and increase your ram. Dont kill things like task manager, voice command, and any widgets you're using. like imnuts was saying, if you kill those apps, youre decreasing your battery life and create lag because theyll reopen on their own and are essential for the phone to run. U want to kill things like phone, messaging, facebook, cachemate, and other things that dont automatically quit when u exit them and arent essential for the phone to run. once ur finished with them and dont need to use them again u can kill it. The task manager that comes with the phone only detects apps that are left open using the home button. Also, dont use live wallpapers and widgets u dont use. Use setcpu and a debloated rom, and that should help as well.
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Get rid of touch wiz, get gingebread launcher. Frees it up tons.
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Samsung I9505 Galaxy S4 Killer app

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Hi to all,
I have Samsung I9505 Galaxy S4 AFTER installing app Viber I have get for 1 time this popup notification.
I dont have on device installed Task Killer .
Its on croatian but I will translate.
"You have previously manually close Viber"
"Leave Viber ON at the background and you will get infos about calls, This will not affect to battery life and memory"
Thanks in advace

smashs said:
Hi to all,
I have Samsung I9505 Galaxy S4 AFTER installing app Viber I have get for 1 time this popup notification.
I dont have on device installed Task Killer .
Its on croatian but I will translate.
"You have previously manually close Viber"
"Leave Viber ON at the background and you will get infos about calls, This will not affect to battery life and memory"
Thanks in advace
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Anyone??? Why I get this popup screen??? android version 4.2.2

Did you try to clear memory from the in built Samsung task manager?

ilabs said:
Did you try to clear memory from the in built Samsung task manager?
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I always clear my memory by samsung task manager.
BUT my question is what is that popup notification in 1 post???
Never had that at any previous android...
Cheers

Uninstall all 3rd party task managers.

SilentRazor said:
Uninstall all 3rd party task managers.
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How?
Thank you

smashs said:
I always clear my memory by samsung task manager.
BUT my question is what is that popup notification in 1 post???
Never had that at any previous android...
Cheers
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Well then thats the problem. Clearing memory using the samsung task manager clears viber from the ram too, but it needs to stay active to keep running in the background. Thats what the notification meant, coz you clearing memory is similar to a task manager clearing applications in the background to save ram.
Thing is, android and linux systems work in a different way. They deliberately fill up ram to a point with most used stuff so its more responsive. Task managers and clearing memory is really not helpful to the system and can actually make it worse in handling things smoothly. You don't really need to clear memory unless its really full and your phone lags.

Only time you'd use the task manager on a phone like the s4 is if you deliberately wanted to kill a particular app, perhaps because it was playing up and you wanted to restart it.
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ilabs said:
Well then thats the problem. Clearing memory using the samsung task manager clears viber from the ram too, but it needs to stay active to keep running in the background. Thats what the notification meant, coz you clearing memory is similar to a task manager clearing applications in the background to save ram.
Thing is, android and linux systems work in a different way. They deliberately fill up ram to a point with most used stuff so its more responsive. Task managers and clearing memory is really not helpful to the system and can actually make it worse in handling things smoothly. You don't really need to clear memory unless its really full and your phone lags.
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dr.m0x said:
Only time you'd use the task manager on a phone like the s4 is if you deliberately wanted to kill a particular app, perhaps because it was playing up and you wanted to restart it.
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Have click thanks button you deserve it
I was have SGS3 and he was to slow for me, too much laggy device. I have always use task manager to clear memory.
Now Iam using SGS4 i9505...
One more question and Iam done
WHAT is that popup notification screen I never had that screen on SGS3. I dont have any software installed on device like task killer...
In 1 post I have translate text because it is on Croatian...
Thnx

smashs said:
Have click thanks button you deserve it
I was have SGS3 and he was to slow for me, too much laggy device. I have always use task manager to clear memory.
Now Iam using SGS4 i9505...
One more question and Iam done
WHAT is that popup notification screen I never had that screen on SGS3. I dont have any software installed on device like task killer...
In 1 post I have translate text because it is on Croatian...
Thnx
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Viber automatically shows that notification if it finds its been shut down from the background. This is usually something a task manager or task killer would do, but in your case this same action was done by the samsung task mamager when you cleared the ram. When you clear memory from the samsung task manager, it essentially kills tasks, which is what a task manager/task killer does.

[Q] What does color of circle in icon of Widgets 'Active apps manager' mean?

What does color of circle in icon of Widgets 'Active apps manager' mean?
As we know, on our Samsung Galaxy Note 3, there is a Widgets named with 'Active apps manager'. Its icon is a circle with a digital char in it. The digital char might stand for number of current active apps.
I found that sometimes the color of this circle is green while sometimes it becomes green and yellow, even sometimes it becomes red.
I wonder what the color means.
Thank you in advance.

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It indicates the ram usage. Green-low, ...
But you shouldn't be using it. It sucks and it doesn't refresh correctly. You can use it to monitor the apps that are running, and that's all there is to it. Just my 2 cents.

It's a visual indicator or the RAM usage. Green is 'loads of free RAM' , yellow is 'getting a bit crowded', and red is 'I'm going to have to shut down an app to run another'.
It's rather pointless. Not very accurate and it doesn't take in account what is and isn't a system process.
Instead of the cleaner, you're better off using Greenify and Android's own RAM manager. (long press home > the lovely pie button > RAM > clear memory.)
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Thanks Dejan Sathanas and ShadowLea.
So now, may I have a summary as below?
1. It is an indicator of RAM usage.
2. It is not very accurate and it doesn't refresh correctly.
3. It is for rough reference only.
Is it okay?
Btw, I wonder if it is a good habit of clearing RAM for my Android device.
Thank you in advance.

James_Watson said:
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Yes, that pretty much sums it up.
I'm using the note 3 since its release, and i never used any ram clearing apps. Android manages it quite good. There's a saying "free ram is wasted ram".
Do some Googling about android ram managing to understand it better.

James_Watson said:
Thanks Dejan Sathanas and ShadowLea.
So now, may I have a summary as below?
1. It is an indicator of RAM usage.
2. It is not very accurate and it doesn't refresh correctly.
3. It is for rough reference only.
Is it okay?
Btw, I wonder if it is a good habit of clearing RAM for my Android device.
Thank you in advance.
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Yes, that's the gist of it.
(If you want an accurate display of the RAM usage, it's in the same screen as the 'clear RAM' button I mentioned. )
Clearing the RAM through Android's device manager has several benefits:
- Less battery drain
- Faster charging
- Speeds the phone up when it starts slowing down. (laggy keyboard, slow web loading, black apps).
- prevents lag in a game or heavy app if you do it before launching.
I always clear the RAM before I put the phone into deep sleep. (+'20 times a day.)
If I don't clear the RAM, it drains 4% per hour in Deep sleep.
If I do clear it, 1% per 10 hours. (yes, ten).
The 'free RAM is Wasted RAM' is true, to a point. Yes, free RAM doesn't work the way it does on Windows.
However, the RAM is perfectly capable of filling up to a point where things start lagging.
The problem(abd advantage) with Android is that it doesn't shut down apps, it minimises them. So if you opened Google Maps yesterday and didn't reboot or clear the RAM, it's still running in the background the next day.
Ergo why clearing the RAM reduces drain, speeds up charging and reduces lag.
I do the same thing on my 2.5y old S3, and it runs very smoothly even today when I do. If I don't clear its RAM, it lags like hell. Empty RAM might be wasted, but filled RAM is even worse.
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ShadowLea said:
Yes, that's the gist of it.
(If you want an accurate display of the RAM usage, it's in the same screen as the 'clear RAM' button I mentioned. )
Clearing the RAM through Android's device manager has several benefits:
- Less battery drain
- Faster charging
- Speeds the phone up when it starts slowing down. (laggy keyboard, slow web loading, black apps).
- prevents lag in a game or heavy app if you do it before launching.
I always clear the RAM before I put the phone into deep sleep. (+'20 times a day.)
If I don't clear the RAM, it drains 4% per hour in Deep sleep.
If I do clear it, 1% per 10 hours. (yes, ten).
The 'free RAM is Wasted RAM' is true, to a point. Yes, free RAM doesn't work the way it does on Windows.
However, the RAM is perfectly capable of filling up to a point where things start lagging.
The problem(abd advantage) with Android is that it doesn't shut down apps, it minimises them. So if you opened Google Maps yesterday and didn't reboot or clear the RAM, it's still running in the background the next day.
Ergo why clearing the RAM reduces drain, speeds up charging and reduces lag.
I do the same thing on my 2.5y old S3, and it runs very smoothly even today when I do. If I don't clear its RAM, it lags like hell. Empty RAM might be wasted, but filled RAM is even worse.
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I see. Thank you very much. :good:

Questions about battery draining...

Hello, I have got the Note 4 you see in my sign..
I'm wondering why my Note 4 has this heavy draining mainly by 2 processes (Android System and Android Operating System).
As you can notice in attachment the processes I said drain about the same percentage of Screen On.
What do you think about this issue?
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umby75 said:
Hello, I have got the Note 4 you see in my sign..
I'm wondering why my Note 4 has this heavy draining mainly by 2 processes (Android System and Android Operating System).
As you can notice in attachment the processes I said drain about the same percentage of Screen On.
What do you think about this issue?
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Probably, you should uninstall Clean Master and the like. I think it's the real culprit here

pr1jker said:
Probably, you should uninstall Clean Master and the like. I think it's the real culprit here
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I've been using Clean Master for a long time and I've never had this issue before.
However Clean Master consumes "only" 12% as the item says..
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Uninstall Clean Master. Those apps are meaningless.

ithehappy said:
Uninstall Clean Master. Those apps are meaningless.
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Clean Master helps for the Junk Files. What do you suggest for junk? Clean Master?
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2 ppl already said cleanmaster unnecessary as we already got smart manager. imho, all apps alike clean master / antivirus are unneeded in smartphone.
back to topic, did you just flash / reset your phone? cause this is normal.

umby75 said:
Clean Master helps for the Junk Files. What do you suggest for junk? Clean Master?
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Use SD Maid for cleaning. It has other useful features as well.

jimdorky said:
2 ppl already said cleanmaster unnecessary as we already got smart manager. imho, all apps alike clean master / antivirus are unneeded in smartphone.
back to topic, did you just flash / reset your phone? cause this is normal.
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I'm sorry..I was wrong in my previous post when I asked which app do you suggest me. I meant to say CCleaner but the answer I think should be the same.
To be honest I deactivated the optimisation app for battery in Smart Manager. But now I'll enable this feature.
However I noticed Smart Manager for junk files is powered by Clean Master (you find written that next to unnecessary data in Smart Manager).
I don't remember if I've ever resetted my phone (probably only some wipe Dalvik cache) but I wouldn't like reinstall all things and I should spend a lot of time to recreate folders, shortcut, etc...[emoji27]
You consider that I don't have root access for use of Titanium Backup..
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CCleaner should not affect your phone to this extent. It's not the problem.
I find that Google Framework services are the problem.
Look for both the newest Google Play store AND Google Play Services apk online (apkmirror or androidpit) make sure you get the right ones for your phone - they'll tell you how to check.
Go to App Manager and clear caches for these apps or disable if you can.
Install the new ones.
This may or may not work, it's hit and miss. I had the same problems with my S6 edge +, and this did it for me.
Some people don't like cleaners - I do. I use 360 and Greenify and at times, Deep Sleep Battery Saver.
And I use SdMaid for deep cleaning.
Shutapp and Doze work very well for my LgG4.
Whatever people say, I have increased performance with these apps, and with Greenify I have extended battery during screen off - I've tested it extensively.
The key to improved battery life in all cases is to fine tune your 'white lists' and to be sure that these apps THEMSELVES are not running in the background.
With the apps I've mentioned there's no problem, I've never used CCleaner on my phone.
The Battery optimisation that comes with Samsung is VERY good though. You must make sure you go through ALL the apps and select 'always optimising' except for those few (clock, calendar, Nova AND the external optimization apps you have installed, i.e. CCleaner in this case) which you select 'never optimising.' It makes a big difference.
You'll see that Google Framework Services cannot be optimized.
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Google Play Service consums that percentage as it's shown in picture I shared you.
I worried about that two processes of Android System with a very high percentage.
In my phone I have a very large battery by Zerolemon and I don't mind to deactivate some processes like background apps.
I don't know how Samsung Optimisation works and for now I setted Optimisation every three days for all apps.
@kolembo
Why do you suggest me to exclude optimisation of clock, calendar, et. apps?
Sent from Note 4 device - Rome - Italy

I want to thank you all because after the optimisation (Smart Manager) the battery discharges very slowly..and with this large battery is very quite!
But how does it work Smart Manager?
Do we have some other apps in other phones to get the same outcome??
Sent from Note 4 device - Rome - Italy

Zenfone 3 ZE520KL RAM issue

Hi everyone,
Since I got this phone I always had this RAM management issue, my model is the basic with 2GB of ram and I understand that it has it's limitations, but I'm so annoyed right now.
Basically the phone can't keep apps running in background, usually if I have Spotify playing and than start browsing on Chrome, Spotify will forced close.
Even when the phone was fresh out of the box it's ram usage was pretty high, but now that I updated to official Android Oreo all just got worse. Now the apps background services are being killed and I just don't receive notifications from WhatsApp, multitasking doesn't exist here.
The screenshots show the RAM usage.
*A fun fact is my old Zenfone 5 with 2GB of RAM is running Nougat (Lineage OS) and when all apps are closed it has about 1GB of free ram while my new Zenfone 3 never get more than 400MB free and still closing the background apps.
Please somebody help me cause the Asus Zentalk forum couldn't help me, I feel like I'm the only one who's having this problem.
*Sorry for my english.
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Have you done the following :
1. Be very selective of what should be kept in the background through Auto-start manager
2. Customize power saving options, extreme power saving will possibly kill everything
3. Wipe cache partition
4. Keep reasonable free space.
5. Disable or remove bloatware (it's achievable without root now)
6. Use lightweight launcher like Evie or stock launcher
7. Avoid unnecessary additional theming
I could hardly think of anything else at the moment, maybe other can come up with better solution. My ze552kl has 4/64 so I don't really deal with this kind of issue but we all did on our older phones.

sanctitude888 said:
Have you done the following :
1. Be very selective of what should be kept in the background through Auto-start manager
2. Customize power saving options, extreme power saving will possibly kill everything
3. Wipe cache partition
4. Keep reasonable free space.
5. Disable or remove bloatware (it's achievable without root now)
6. Use lightweight launcher like Evie or stock launcher
7. Avoid unnecessary additional theming
I could hardly think of anything else at the moment, maybe other can come up with better solution. My ze552kl has 4/64 so I don't really deal with this kind of issue but we all did on our older phones.
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I already did all of this, I don't have a lot off apps, all the bloatware that I didn't use I have disabled. As I said, even when the phone was new it never had much available ram, but now with Oreo it got worse.

Somebody correct me if I am wrong but ram in android is meant to be used. The more apps being allowed to run in background the more ram will be used to avoid opening the app from scratch. Most of us are so obssessed with free ram. The problem is not with free ram but with laggy experience. You may try one last thing in developer options, apps section and activate destroy activities as soon as user leaves it. Just another idea.

sanctitude888 said:
Somebody correct me if I am wrong but ram in android is meant to be used. The more apps being allowed to run in background the more ram will be used to avoid opening the app from scratch. Most of us are so obssessed with free ram. The problem is not with free ram but with laggy experience. You may try one last thing in developer options, apps section and activate destroy activities as soon as user leaves it. Just another idea.
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The truth that you can see amount mem free but it not free like that. Ex: i have 800mb ram free but actually it have only 150mb, that why it make the device laggy. You can use the app called "Disk info" with have option "Mem preferences" which can see the truth mem free. If you want to solve this easy just unmount zram file, creat swap file (recommend 1GB storage) and yes, root is needed.

sanctitude888 said:
Somebody correct me if I am wrong but ram in android is meant to be used. The more apps being allowed to run in background the more ram will be used to avoid opening the app from scratch. Most of us are so obssessed with free ram. The problem is not with free ram but with laggy experience. You may try one last thing in developer options, apps section and activate destroy activities as soon as user leaves it. Just another idea.
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I'm complaining about my apps crashing because lack of free ram, not because the number of free ram.