Safe to turn off "background activity" (Oreo feature) - OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers

I noticed OREO has introduced a new setting in the apps > battery section for apps coded for android prior to android 8
Much to my surprise google play services has a toggle which is an indicator they are targeting API for android 7 still.
Is it safe to turn off "background activity" for google play services?
I've turned it off and it appears I still get incomming gmail messages so I'm thinking it might not actually affect anything or am I wrong?

Can you give a screenshot?

vortex-5 said:
I noticed OREO has introduced a new setting in the apps > battery section for apps coded for android prior to android 8
Much to my surprise google play services has a toggle which is an indicator they are targeting API for android 7 still.
Is it safe to turn off "background activity" for google play services?
I've turned it off and it appears I still get incomming gmail messages so I'm thinking it might not actually affect anything or am I wrong?
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You mean the option when you tap on Google Play Services in the battery stats, right? You can safely switch that to disable background activities.
Though, I don't know if this makes any noticeable difference in battery life, for me it didn't yet.

RogerF81 said:
Can you give a screenshot?
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You can find it here: https://www.bestusefultips.com/disable-app-background-activity-on-android-oreo/ (better than a screenshot)

I ran a whole day with it off and I didn't miss any notifications although battery life was not changed by a lot if anything it seemed like it made battery life worse but I can't confirm for now I guess it's safe to leave it on along with the google store.

vortex-5 said:
You can find it here: https://www.bestusefultips.com/disable-app-background-activity-on-android-oreo/ (better than a screenshot)
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Thanks, nice!

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Google Play Services taking up too much battery?

Lately when i go to check my battery percentage, usually the screen would take up most of the battery, but now i see google services taking up way more than my screen.
Google Services takes up 38%, while Screen takes up 29% in the battery setting menu.
Although I'm running a Modified version of TouchWiz, I know it's not the rom because I've been on this rom for a month now and this has only been happening recently.
Has this been happening to anyone?
I'm thinking it's the new playstore update.
EDIT; also found this.
http://www.androidcentral.com/new-g...d-and-google-needs-fix-battery-screen-already
anyone?
Check this that out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44895388
And this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43424843
pham818 said:
anyone?
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There has probably been over a dozen threads about this already. So I would say several people have already responded.
thanks guys
Having the same excact issue
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Settings/more/location services <--- disable "use wireless networks". This cut down on the wakelocks from Google Play Services by about 90%...but of course I lost that feature, which I would prefer to have.
jeffreii said:
Settings/more/location services <--- disable "use wireless networks". This cut down on the wakelocks from Google Play Services by about 90%...but of course I lost that feature, which I would prefer to have.
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This made a noticeable difference for me. Thank you!

Google services using more battery than screen!

Can someone please tell me why Google services is using that much battery. Is it a wake lock or something? Anyone had a similar experience? How can I stop it from using this much data?
Thank you
ChampMEon said:
Can someone please tell me why Google services is using that much data. Is it a wake lock or something? Anyone had a similar experience? How can I stop it from using this much data?
Thank you
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same problem mate, when I turn off location services, use goes down, google needs to sort this, same problem on HTC one, there is some bug in google now, nexus 4 users were suffering the same, but google was prompt to close the bug, we all know all these other devices are treated like stepson:laugh::laugh:
Same here
I had the same problem i figured out thanks to better battery stats that the problem was partial wakelock called audioout_2. It just didnt let the phone to go sleep. I figured that real racing 3 caused this! if you play that game just close it (hold menu button and swipe it off) and now it isnt draining so much (i know it is called google services but strangely real racing did this just try it)
but if you are not playing this game it could be caused by other app just install better battery stats charge phone to 100% and let it be overnight and in the morning look to better battery stats what causes your wakelocks
proof that it is counted as google services in attachement and tomorow i can add stats from this night when i will just close real racing
+1... But it's not happening everyday to me, just sometimes... But with same usage...
I am witnessing this for approximately 3 months, very sad with this…
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A reboot would fix this. I experience this after I use google maps which is very stupid.
Recently noticed the same, it is so ridiculous! So I went to Settings -More tab -Location Services -unmarked WiFi&mobile network location -Restarted and all is good!
Google MUST fix this!! :angry:
Plagued me when i got my S4, turning off Sync and GPS will prevent most if not all, but as people will point out...if you do that you lose Google Now and some other google syncing services.
This is what ive been doing at night or when im not using those apps...
Not the perfect scenario and google does need to fix this asap.
Nothing to be alarmed. Probably it is just location history being recorded.
Btw 4.3 does wifi location even with wifi off. Just making sure there is a real time location even after you selected to switch both gps and Wifi off.
/Sarcasm off
Forgot to add, you can turn location services and history off via settings (no need for root).
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tclocki said:
A reboot would fix this. I experience this after I use google maps which is very stupid.
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I disable that
DeepPurple114 said:
I disable that
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You disabled google maps?
If you are rooted you can try to use Greenify to "freeze" apps like google maps when your display is switched off.
It reduced my wakelocks to a minimum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737
tclocki said:
You disabled google maps?
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Yes,there is a problem?
my battery awesome! i use google maps from the browser.. good alternative
No, actually I would like to uninstall those updates for Google maps, I just don't like how the google maps look now.
I had the same problem
ChampMEon said:
Can someone please tell me why Google services is using that much battery. Is it a wake lock or something? Anyone had a similar experience? How can I stop it from using this much data?
Thank you
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I had the same problem. In my case i found that the google contacts were syncing all the time. every minute.
The only way to stop draining the the baterry was to stop the sync. i activate ir ones a week to keep by contacts in gmail.
The problem was solved after Samsung deliver a new version.
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Guys i already told you that it is caused because of some app but it is shown as google services which isnt true!
Look at first attached file this is like 28% after 10 and half hours on battery (i was sleeping) with wifi off but mobile data on and google contact sync, gmail, app data and chrome on and with google location services on (via networks, GPS was off ) and i didnt closed any apps with holding home button and swiping them off
Second attached file is same setting but i closed all apps and look it drained 11% after 18 hours 49mins (i was sleeping and in work and left my phone home because of this testing) which is great standby battery life (nearly 8 days 100% - 0 % ) and as you can see still it say that google services drained 89% of it but battery life is better than in first attachement
I investigated it and found out that Real racing 3 didnt let my phone to go to sleep and it was because of kernel wakelock AudioOut_8 and some other apps like skype can do the same so my advice is close apps before long standby it helps just try it and you can even figure out which one did it
PS: Sorry for my english its not my native language but i think you will get what i mean
Thanks for the thread @ChampMEon
I've had the same issues. But seems like 4.3 have improved on it!

copresGcore_EventLoop wakelock eating battery

Hello sinc the past few days I'm having this wakelock eating my battery. I tried to research what it is with very little success. I updated my rom to the latest slimkat and gapps with little success. Anybody had the same problem? Thank you
Same here
getting the same , keep awake solid 100% by this Google play services wake lock, any ideas on how to stop it would be greatly appreciated.
Fixed my problem with copresGcore_eventloop
Ok, so awhile back I followed some tweaks to Google play services to save battery drain, see this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guide-google-play-services-battery-t2832525
Which worked rather well, but since the latest Google play services update went in I started getting the 'no deep sleep/keep awake' issue that BBS and GSAM showed as being caused by copresGcore_eventloop .
What I did was just reverse the tweaks in android tuner , and also removed my Google account and added it back and then rebooted. This has fixed my issue with copresGcore_eventloop .
I have not yet had time to see if reapplying the tweaks would start the issues again but likely will try that soon and will try to post back results.
jk8260 said:
Ok, so awhile back I followed some tweaks to Google play services to save battery drain, see this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guide-google-play-services-battery-t2832525
Which worked rather well, but since the latest Google play services update went in I started getting the 'no deep sleep/keep awake' issue that BBS and GSAM showed as being caused by copresGcore_eventloop .
What I did was just reverse the tweaks in android tuner , and also removed my Google account and added it back and then rebooted. This has fixed my issue with copresGcore_eventloop .
I have not yet had time to see if reapplying the tweaks would start the issues again but likely will try that soon and will try to post back results.
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you mean that you kept all the services as default including location services etc? and not getting nlplocation wakelocks?
Thank you
Correct it no long even appears on my list of play services wake locks and my device is deep sleeping again.
jk8260 said:
Correct it no long even appears on my list of play services wake locks and my device is deep sleeping again.
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I will give it a try, thank you
jk8260 said:
Ok, so awhile back I followed some tweaks to Google play services to save battery drain, see this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guide-google-play-services-battery-t2832525
Which worked rather well, but since the latest Google play services update went in I started getting the 'no deep sleep/keep awake' issue that BBS and GSAM showed as being caused by copresGcore_eventloop .
What I did was just reverse the tweaks in android tuner , and also removed my Google account and added it back and then rebooted. This has fixed my issue with copresGcore_eventloop .
I have not yet had time to see if reapplying the tweaks would start the issues again but likely will try that soon and will try to post back results.
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Hi. How did you "remove your Google account"?
anyone know how to fix this?
im still getting copresGcore_eventloop in reported in BBS for extended periods of time
jk8260 said:
Which worked rather well, but since the latest Google play services update went in I started getting the 'no deep sleep/keep awake' issue that BBS and GSAM showed as being caused by copresGcore_eventloop .
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After disabling some services I saw this wakelock today as well for the first time.
To fix the problem it was enough to re-enable
Code:
com.google.android.location.reporting.service.PreferenceService
Wow! Was it a magic?
sevenrock said:
To fix the problem it was enough to re-enable
Code:
com.google.android.location.reporting.service.PreferenceService
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I have a whole bunch of disabled location-related services (cause I need GPS but don't need all other location facilities). But this service was THE one! After reenabling it abnormal wakelocks are gone! Thank you very much!
Kirrrr said:
I have a whole bunch of disabled location-related services (cause I need GPS but don't need all other location facilities). But this service was THE one! After reenabling it abnormal wakelocks are gone! Thank you very much!
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Could you please post your list of disabled services? I am not sure which
services to disable in order to get rid of the network location stuff, I also
need only GPS via satellite.
sevenrock said:
Could you please post your list of disabled services?
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Here is it (via ol' good Disable Service):
Code:
In [B]Google Services Framework[/B]:
com.google.android.gsf.checkin.CheckinService
com.google.android.gsf.checkin.EventLogService
In [B]Google Play Services[/B]:
com.google.android.location.reporting.service.DeleteHistoryService
com.google.android.location.reporting.service.DispatchingService
com.google.android.location.fused.FusedLocationService
com.google.android.location.reporting.service.InitializerService
com.google.android.location.reporting.service.LocationHistoryInjectorService
com.google.android.location.reporting.LocationReportingService
com.google.android.location.places.PlaylogService
com.google.android.gms.gcm.ProxyGTalkService
com.google.android.location.reporting.service.ReportingAndroidService
com.google.android.location.reporting.service.ReportingSyncService
com.google.android.gms.subscribedfeeds.SyncService
[STRIKE]com.google.android.gms.update.SystemUpdateService[/STRIKE] (UPD at June 2015: do NOT disable this service, with new version of Google Framework it leads to not sleeping system)
com.google.android.gms.wearable.service.WearableService
It is a full list of Google services disabled on my system (Xperia Ray SJB8 CM10). Probably, some of them aren't disabled by me but by some software due to appropriate settings.
Obviously, I do not recommend in any way to do such hacks on other systems. It is just my weird brutal parascientific experience. Kekeke.
What app is everyone using to disable these services? Thanks
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treIII said:
What app is everyone using to disable these services? Thanks
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Disable Service =)
Kirrrr said:
Disable Service =)
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Thanks. Nice app for such reason.
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I saw copresGcore_Eventloop wakelock in BBS. I then saw under Settings > Battery represented as Google Play Services. I then experimented with Greenify, DisableServices and using Titanium Pro to freeze apps following the link provided in the first few posts of this thread. All were very interesting but caused notifications about problems with Google Play Services. I'm on 4.4.2 and stumbled across App Ops in System Settings. I tapped on Google Play Services and unchecked a bunch of elements I don't use and it now doesn't appear on the list in battery. I have two google accounts, one is only used to share Google Play Music with my wife. I unchecked all the boxes on that account. I think there is a bug relating to having two google accounts.
Disclosure: this is on a Verizon Galaxy Note II running 4.4.2 Alliance ROM 30

Disable Battery Optimization

So it looks like there are many people having issues with the battery optimization feature, which lets me guess oneplus is already aware of the problem. My question is if there is a way to disable the optimization completely for now until oneplus has sorted things out.
Since the last update it is so aggressive, it kills youtube's connection to my chromecast every few minutes, rendering all control features unuseable as I always have to reconnect before I can do anything. This also makes my wearOS watch unuseable as it also depends on the phone keeping the connections alive.
You can turn off Optimization for YouTube and WearOS
Settings > Apps & Notifications > Special app access
You can turn off optimization for any app, and see the advanced in the 3 dot menu. I had the same problem with my watch, turned off the watch app and helper, now works great. I also turned off messenger, no problems now.
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I also would like to know if this is possible in an easy way. I don't want to disable it for 256 apps independently.
Aircraft800 said:
You can turn off Optimization for YouTube and WearOS
Settings > Apps & Notifications > Special app access
You can turn off optimization for any app, and see the advanced in the 3 dot menu. I had the same problem with my watch, turned off the watch app and helper, now works great. I also turned off messenger, no problems now.
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Thanks for the reply!
That setting was the first thing I checked and already disabled optimization for the wearOS and cast apps which work fine now. Unfortunately it won't let me disable it for the youtube app as it handles that one as a system app. As long as youtube is not allowed in the background wearOS has nothing to communicate with so I still can't control it.
That's why my next thought was if I can't disable it for system apps maybe there is a way to completely disable it until oneplus has the problem solved. I know that solution would suck but at the moment I am forced to use another phone to use youtube properly which sucks even more imo.
boelze said:
Thanks for the reply!
That setting was the first thing I checked and already disabled optimization for the wearOS and cast apps which work fine now. Unfortunately it won't let me disable it for the youtube app as it handles that one as a system app. As long as youtube is not allowed in the background wearOS has nothing to communicate with so I still can't control it.
That's why my next thought was if I can't disable it for system apps maybe there is a way to completely disable it until oneplus has the problem solved. I know that solution would suck but at the moment I am forced to use another phone to use youtube properly which sucks even more imo.
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I wonder if the system mover app works on Pie and YouTube? I didn't realize YouTube was a system app since it's from the play store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.systemappmover
Aircraft800 said:
I wonder if the system mover app works on Pie and YouTube? I didn't realize YouTube was a system app since it's from the play store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.systemappmover
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I would love to try this but I am unrooted. Youtube should be on the list but it is not, I am guessing that is because it comes preinstalled, the playstore app isn't there as well for example.
I know this is an old thread, but the more I use my new phone, the more I believe this to be the issue with my Gmail app constantly putting my Exchange accounts back to 30 minute fetch. And, I cannot disable battery optimization on Gmail because it's a system app (and I do not want to root). For now, every other day, I have to tell the device that it really is OK for Gmail to remain constantly connected to my Exchange account, that I actually prefer it to be. I've made it to 54 hours with my normal use (OVER 7 HRS S.O.T), not trying to stretch it at all, no battery saving features on whatsoever. So it's safe to say I can afford for Gmail to stay connected with Exchange. The optimization is a bit too aggressive for not allowing system apps to be excluded.
I've also had issues with Google Assistant not reminding me about reminders that are clearly in the list of her reminders, and I think this to be the culprit as well, and again, can't disable it because it's not on the list.
cannothas said:
I know this is an old thread, but the more I use my new phone, the more I believe this to be the issue with my Gmail app constantly putting my Exchange accounts back to 30 minute fetch. And, I cannot disable battery optimization on Gmail because it's a system app (and I do not want to root). For now, every other day, I have to tell the device that it really is OK for Gmail to remain constantly connected to my Exchange account, that I actually prefer it to be. I've made it to 54 hours with my normal use (OVER 7 HRS S.O.T), not trying to stretch it at all, no battery saving features on whatsoever. So it's safe to say I can afford for Gmail to stay connected with Exchange. The optimization is a bit too aggressive for not allowing system apps to be excluded.
I've also had issues with Google Assistant not reminding me about reminders that are clearly in the list of her reminders, and I think this to be the culprit as well, and again, can't disable it because it's not on the list.
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Having exactly same problems with gmail and chrome (html5 push notifications). I am rooted. So I am considering to mark those apps as non system apps, but still not sure if this won't brake future updates or something.

Google Notifications on Fire HD 10

Is there a way to get Google apps (voice, gchat, gmail, etc) to have working notifications on the 2019 HD 10? I have searched around and see others with the problem, but I did not see any solutions. I installed Google Account Manager v7.1.2, Google Services Framework v9-4832352, Google Play services 20.15.15, and Google Play Store 19.8.15 after a factory reset. Notifications will not work. With Voice, I can have the app open with the screen on and it will not notify or display a new message until it is "refreshed" (leaving the current conversation and going back to the list, etc will then show the new message). Thanks for any help.
mwalt2 said:
Is there a way to get Google apps (voice, gchat, gmail, etc) to have working notifications on the 2019 HD 10? I have searched around and see others with the problem, but I did not see any solutions. I installed Google Account Manager v7.1.2, Google Services Framework v9-4832352, Google Play services 20.15.15, and Google Play Store 19.8.15 after a factory reset. Notifications will not work. With Voice, I can have the app open with the screen on and it will not notify or display a new message until it is "refreshed" (leaving the current conversation and going back to the list, etc will then show the new message). Thanks for any help.
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You have to disable the battery optimization or doze.
AmznUser444 Dev said:
You have to disable the battery optimization or doze.
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Could you explain further? I did disable battery optimization for each Google app that I installed (including the 4 to get Google apps on the tablet). It did not seem to make a difference. Even with the app open and screen on, I cannot get it to make a notification sound.
I have the same problem, no ring or notifications. No battery optimization find and turned on all the notifications on every setting i can find, but still not working. Any other ideas? Thanks!
Mary8 said:
I have the same problem, no ring or notifications. No battery optimization find and turned on all the notifications on every setting i can find, but still not working. Any other ideas? Thanks!
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You can use Activity Launcher:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.szalkowski.activitylauncher
Open Activity Launcher -> scroll down for Settings -> select Battery
Press the vertical 3 dots and select Battery optimization -> Google -> select Not Optimized
If Google notifications didn't work, your Fire HD 10 is terrible. Migrate your valuable files to a new Android device and turn your terrible Fire HD 10 into Android app debugger, digital clock, photo frame, Echo Show (Alexa), or MIDI device.
Yes! Agree! Amazon Fire HD 10 is no good!!!! Since i cannot return it now, i try to make it work. Why didn't Amazon just use the latest Android? Fire OS is so primitive and full of bugs. I tried everything i could find online, turned off battery saver and turned on notifications for all apps, but still does not work right. Fire OS is so stupid!!!! I had to go through each app because i could not find a way to do it easier, very frustrating!!!! Now i am getting some notifications, but hours or even a day later!!!!! They must work for some people. Please share how you make them work. Thank you very much!
as it is, Fire HD10 2019 will not show notifications from Google services. u can installl the apk files and get Play Store up n running. but Fire OS is missing other android framework so notification will not work consistently.
there is no bootloader unlock for HD10 2019 right now. IF that is unlocked in the future AND a custom ROM like Lineage is ported in, then chance of notification working will be much higher.
Amazon sells its Fire tablets mostly for consumption of its digital content. dats why the HD10 does not even have Play Store. getting anything beyond that to run is a bonus. u can use the tablet as-is or get a full android tab: walmart has a few around the same price range. good luck!

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