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After weathering the storm of chaos as huge crowds rushed to get the One, hearing countless horror stories of failing phones and terrible support, and waiting for (hopefully) all hardware problems to rear their ugly faces, I'm at a loss now--in March 2016--as to whether or not buying a used phone, said to work perfectly by the seller and has been tested enough by natural selection, would be a good idea if I can only return DOAs.
I'm calling on everyone here not to post just epic sob-stories; instead, if you had an issue (hardware, software, firmware, or other) please post what it was, when it showed up (how much use, any possible user error that may have caused it), whether it was fixed (and if it was, what it was fixed by), how long it lasted, what ROM/software version you were on, and any other important info.
Thanks so much in advance; I really like the specs and the original reviews, but just can't be sure if it got back up after falling flat right out of the gate.
I got a oneplus one. I love it!. Soon as I got i t I rooted and flashed CM13. NO ISSUES WITH IT AT ALL.
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After weathering the storm of chaos as huge crowds rushed to get the One, hearing countless horror stories of failing phones and terrible support, and waiting for (hopefully) all hardware problems to rear their ugly faces, I'm at a loss now--in March 2016--as to whether or not buying a used phone, said to work perfectly by the seller and has been tested enough by natural selection, would be a good idea if I can only return DOAs.
I'm calling on everyone here not to post just epic sob-stories; instead, if you had an issue (hardware, software, firmware, or other) please post what it was, when it showed up (how much use, any possible user error that may have caused it), whether it was fixed (and if it was, what it was fixed by), how long it lasted, what ROM/software version you were on, and any other important info.
Thanks so much in advance; I really like the specs and the original reviews, but just can't be sure if it got back up after falling flat right out of the gate.
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Nearly 2 years and no regrets..
I only got this phone at the end of 2015 and I haven't regretted a bit, ever. It's an amazing phone, I never had any problem with it. The metal around the screen is the only thing that wears out, it's not awful but it as some scratches, and I'm very careful. Believe me, for the price, this is still the best budget phone you can get
I have the ability to get it for as low as $180 here in the US. I know that is quite a good deal compared to the original price, but with the OPX having been released with similar specs and such I'm not quite sure I fully grasp whether or not this price is a steal, or just a good bargain. Thoughts?
Absolutely hate it. I regret trading my Nexus 6 for it. My data has been spotty and I keep getting random reboots. Today, I was using the GPS and Google Maps lost the ability to connect to my phone's mobile data during the commute. Completely overshot my destination, thanks OnePlus!
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Absolutely hate it. I regret trading my Nexus 6 for it. My data has been spotty and I keep getting random reboots. Today, I was using the GPS and Google Maps lost the ability to connect to my phone's mobile data during the commute. Completely overshot my destination, thanks OnePlus!
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When it comes to data, I'm not too worried as I use tracfone (so I'm not really used to the convenience of data on the go) and have great coverage around here--unless it is so significantly worse than the Nexus 6 so as to cause a steady 3-4 bars on one to equal intermittent service on the other.
For the random reboots, when did they start? What ROM? When do they happen?
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I have the ability to get it for as low as $180 here in the US. I know that is quite a good deal compared to the original price, but with the OPX having been released with similar specs and such I'm not quite sure I fully grasp whether or not this price is a steal, or just a good bargain. Thoughts?
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On paper, the OnePlus One and OnePlus X may seem similar, but it's only so much.
The OPO features (as compared to the OPX)
> a higher-tier variant of the Snapdragon 801 (MSM8974AC) @ 2.5ghz
> a larger 5.5in LTPS (IPS LCD) display (screen size is subjective, some people prefer smaller)
> better band support for US Carriers (the OPX lacks necessary bands)
> a better rear-facing camera (capable of 4K DCI/UHD recording) and can be vastly improved with Sultan's modifications
> WIFI AC + Dual band (2.4/5.0ghz)
> a larger 3100mah battery
> NFC (the OPX doesn't have NFC, seriously)
But most importantly, the OPO is sustained by one of the largest dev communities ever, right here at XDA. Even after OnePlus/Cyanogen discontinues official support for the device, the community will keep it alive and strong for a VERY long time. The OPX lacks this kind of love and support. Unsurprisingly, OnePlus themselves seem to be neglecting the OPX.
The OPX features (as compared to the OPO)
> a more portable 5in AMOLED display
> a better front-facing camera
I might sound biased, but that is justified by everything I've just listed. It's clear who's the winner here.
Spec sheets for reference:
http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_one-6327.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_x-7630.php
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On paper, ... camera
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Thanks for the insight. I kind of wonder why it's so cheap when it's so competitive with other phones of the time. The Galaxy s5 seems to go, used, for between $250-300 while the OPO goes for between 200-225 normally. I get that last generation phones can go down in price, but it seemed unexpected that it didn't even out to pretty much the same used price as most of those other phones. I was just thinking there must be something I was missing.
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I kind of wonder why it's so cheap when it's so competitive with other phones of the time. The Galaxy s5 seems to go, used, for between $250-300 while the OPO goes for between 200-225 normally. I get that last generation phones can go down in price, but it seemed unexpected that it didn't even out to pretty much the same used price as most of those other phones. I was just thinking there must be something I was missing.
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This is expected. The Galaxy S5 is a Samsung device and as with all popular brands, these devices can go for a high price, from when they're released to even a few years later.
The OnePlus One was OnePlus' very first device and it was named "The Flagship Killer" for a reason- that reason being it had the same specs as popular flagship devices (ie. Galaxy S5, Xperia Z3, HTC One M8) but costed much less than they did. This is why the OPO, new or used, continues to be sold for lower than any other popular flagship device.
As a note, OnePlus claims that they barely made any profit at the time due to selling the OPO for such a low price, but they actually had a lot of backup from their overseeing company, OPPO.
Trust me (and everyone here), the OPO is still an amazing device. Everything about it screams high quality.
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When it comes to data, I'm not too worried as I use tracfone (so I'm not really used to the convenience of data on the go) and have great coverage around here--unless it is so significantly worse than the Nexus 6 so as to cause a steady 3-4 bars on one to equal intermittent service on the other.
For the random reboots, when did they start? What ROM? When do they happen?
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Running Sultan's CM13 - had similar issues with CM12. Switched to CM13 because Sultan was actively developing it. Tried other roms but I didn't like them as much as Sultan's rom. Charging is also atrocious - 2 hours to go from 10% to 100% with the stock cable and charger.
The funny thing is, I had full bars and data, GMaps just couldn't connect until I restarted the phone.
I had three reboots in the past hour. One with the phone laying on my desk. Another while scrolling through GroupMe. The final after I took a screenshot of my lockscreen. I don't use xposed or any other customization app.
Best phone ever released till date, we can edit ANDROID to the core.. I am using since aug 2014, only thing i regret is camera compared to todays phones but even it lives it up to the mark
well!! it is reliable enough ...
I've had this device since November 2014 and going strong. This device is one of the best purchases I've ever made in terms of a device. Unless I cause damage to it or there are new band support that's needed in the near future, I might actually try to keep this device until end of 2017.
I've really have had no issues with this phone, probably my only real gripe is the lack of OIS support.
You really can't go wrong with the OnePlus One.
Being a phone junkie, I jumped at the chance for a flagship killer, and do not regret it. Looking at all the phones we have today, this one still stacks up great, and outperforms my buddies lg v10 (which was what I was going to get, but couldn't justify the price) in a lot of areas (mostly stupid golf games), though all his hardware is top notch.
This device is affordable, and still runs as smooth as day one. Dev community awesome. I had the slight yellow tinge when it first came out, but it's gone. I had another friend of mine buy the op2 just cause he liked my phone so much but wanted the dual Sim...
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I'm looking to jump back in with a OPO after a year, has the touch screen issue been addressed? I had the issue on two OPO's. Very great device otherwise!
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I'm looking to jump back in with a OPO after a year, has the touch screen issue been addressed? I had the issue on two OPO's. Very great device otherwise!
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That was one of the things I was wondering: there were a lot of people having problems with the touchscreen, they apparently had a firmware fix but I still saw some reports of problems afterwards. Haven't seen any recently, but no real discussion about what was the issue, whether there were some people with hardware problems AND some people with firmware problems or if there were just firmware problems. I think I might have seen something on their forums but I honestly don't trust that place with the reports of censorship and all the fanboys dismissing problems.
EDIT: Just found this thread that describes what causes the issue. Definitely an involved process, but at least it suggests a problem other than just faulty-digitizer roulette. I hate the lengths that Oneplus goes to to try and hide this kind of thing. They could gain a lot more support if they were just transparent about their fumbles and mistakes instead of trying to sweep stuff under the rug and waiting for it to create a scandal.
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That was one of the things I was wondering: there were a lot of people having problems with the touchscreen, they apparently had a firmware fix but I still saw some reports of problems afterwards. Haven't seen any recently, but no real discussion about what was the issue, whether there were some people with hardware problems AND some people with firmware problems or if there were just firmware problems. I think I might have seen something on their forums but I honestly don't trust that place with the reports of censorship and all the fanboys dismissing problems.
EDIT: Just found this thread that describes what causes the issue. Definitely an involved process, but at least it suggests a problem other than just faulty-digitizer roulette. I hate the lengths that Oneplus goes to to try and hide this kind of thing. They could gain a lot more support if they were just transparent about their fumbles and mistakes instead of trying to sweep stuff under the rug and waiting for it to create a scandal.
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Yeah, I remember reading about that .. Hoping they fixed the issue as I'm contemplating purchasing one new from OnePlus.
Just wanted to follow-up on my post from yesterday, OP.
I'm now on rooted stock COS12.1 - latest update, as of yesterday night. Only rooted apps I use are AdAway and TiBu (might not justify root tbh haha). But it's still not that great. The phone was definitely much smoother with Sultan's rom, with occasional hiccups. Just tried to do a raid in COC and the phone went unresponsive until I locked the screen but I had to resort to rebooting to make it actually work. It actually froze on the "rebooting" screen and I had to hard reboot.
For reference, I've had the phone since September 2015 and have been holding out for this year's Nexus but I might have to bite the bullet and pick up the 6P. My phone timeline is as follows: LG MyTouch, HTC Sensation 4G, Moto G 1st Gen, Nexus 6 and OnePlus One. Favorites have been Moto G and Nexus 6.
buy opo, leave opx....look around here on developments for both devices and u know why i say opo
Hi Wonderful People at xdadevelopers,
I'm puzzled on how my new Axon 7's wifi, data, and GPS performance lags behind my Samsung Galaxy S3, which was released 4 years ago. I got this phone thinking that it would be an overall upgrade from my S3 but instead I'm left with a device that is slower in performance in terms of GPS accuracy and online speed. (Both data and wifi connection are slower). Is this something that ZTE can improve/fix with software updates/tweaks or it is bad positions/sub-par hardware? Any inputs on this is greatly appreciate it, thank you!
What model do you have? My A2017U was alright on B20, and the B27 made it even better
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Hi Wonderful People at xdadevelopers,
I'm puzzled on how my new Axon 7's wifi, data, and GPS performance lags behind my Samsung Galaxy S3, which was released 4 years ago. I got this phone thinking that it would be an overall upgrade from my S3 but instead I'm left with a device that is slower in performance in terms of GPS accuracy and online speed. (Both data and wifi connection are slower). Is this something that ZTE can improve/fix with software updates/tweaks or it is bad positions/sub-par hardware? Any inputs on this is greatly appreciate it, thank you!
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I had a look at your profile and noticed you were on T-Mobile in the United States. Where are you located (Southern California, Texas, etc). If you are with T-Mobile do you have the T-Mobile binge-on feature enabled or disabled? I'm a prepaid T-Mobile customer with two Axon 7's in Southern California and before I disabled Binge-on (T-Mobile's YouTube buffering) I suffered with DATA performance. Now I have no issues at all with DATA or GPS (I use Waze and Google Maps every day for about 2 hours in the car). I'm not sure whether this would affect GPS but I have a feeling it might. Either way I'd try disabling Binge-on (can be done through the T-Mobile app under services | opt out) and see if that helps.
If that doesn't solve the issue I would recommend
1. Going through your APN settings and making sure they match up with T-Mobile's recommended settings
2. Making sure that Google has all the permissions it needs to access your location. Go and check your APP Settings and make sure nothing location based is disabled.
3. Resetting your phone.
If that seems like too much hassle just exchange it for a new one and if you have the same problems with it get another phone (Oneplus etc).
Hi All,
I have the A2017U B27 and yes, I'm on T-Mobile and currently located in Nor Cal. Will try out the recommendations and see if there are any improvements. Thank you very much!
I got similar problem
My axon 7 Gps is not accurate indoor.
And i just find it out much later. Dont know what to do QQ
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I got similar problem
My axon 7 Gps is not accurate indoor.
And i just find it out much later. Dont know what to do QQ
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No GPS is accurate indoor. GPS is outdoor use only.
Are these issues software related?
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No GPS is accurate indoor. GPS is outdoor use only.
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But compare to my older phone it is far less accurate indoor though:crying:
indoor next to the window or balcony it finds fix in 20-60s, my colleague xiaomi 4c is faster, outdoor they both perform very good. I wouldn't call it bad gps
Wifi I was scared once I turned my axon for the first time, wifi signal was jumping, disconnecting every 5 sec, after reboot now it works very stable, I have to test maxium range from router, comparing with other phones, but I think it's decent
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Are these issues software related?
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Yes they are. They can and will be fixed eventually by ZTE and for sure by CM (in time).
I used to have the exact same experience when I was porting my old phone to CM. GPS issues for the Axon 7 are all software related.
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Yes they are. They can and will be fixed eventually by ZTE and for sure by CM (in time).
I used to have the exact same experience when I was porting my old phone to CM. GPS issues for the Axon 7 are all software related.
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do you think camera has also room for improvments? I am very happy with shots taken in a broad daylight, also with strong LED lamp they look very sharp and nice, the worst case scenario is when its greyish but not night time yet, not enought light, much noise, sometimes not sharp fotos, white balance is mostly ok for me
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do you think camera has also room for improvments? I am very happy with shots taken in a broad daylight, also with strong LED lamp they look very sharp and nice, the worst case scenario is when its greyish but not night time yet, not enought light, much noise, sometimes not sharp fotos, white balance is mostly ok for me
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I think there is. I saw pictures taken with Isocells on par with Sony's IMX sensors. It's all about how good the devs (ZTE) code the Camera software.
I agree that in low light conditions the "snap and shoot" can do better. I was able to take good low light conditions pictures in manuel mode.
What we as users need to do is to keep contacting ZTE and state that we want those improvements. Especially in the early month's of release. Because after a year or so. Their dev team will be focused on the next ZTE Flagship and the Axon 7 will be almost forgotten in term of Software updates.
But that's what we paid for a 400$ Chinese Flagship.
after long time spending time with the zte support in germany my a7 still can´t connect to wifi. (B03) also its not possilbe to use LTE with this phone. (soundcloud or youtube most time stuck...), i think i will return it this week and wait for the V20 oder zenfone 3 deluxe....
I saw your same post over on the ZTE forums under the mrfobber username, so I'll just copypasta my response:
The thing is, other people disagree with you (myself included). I realize that you're not the only one claiming that WiFi and cell service is "bad", but it doesn't seem to be universally true.
Obviously some devices are going to be better than others. Hardware, software, and overall design play a role in this. But some comparative tests show no issue with my phone in my area. I get identical cellular reception with my G3, Zenfone 2 Laser, and the Axon 7. I get slightly better WiFi throughput and signal strength with the A7 over the other two, all of which are maxing out my 50Mbps service.
I'm wondering if there's a QC issue here, or if it's just very much dependent on where you live. I mean, where you live obviously plays a role in what your service is like, but it does seem strange to get wildly different performance from two phones under identical circumstances.
I haven't tested the GPS, specifically, just using Google Maps and it's been fine. What sort of test are you doing to compare the two? Cold-start fix times? Number of satellites? What app are you using?
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after long time spending time with the zte support in germany my a7 still can´t connect to wifi. (B03) also its not possilbe to use LTE with this phone. (soundcloud or youtube most time stuck...), i think i will return it this week and wait for the V20 oder zenfone 3 deluxe....
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I have a Fritz.Box 7490 WiFi running with an Fritz. Box repeater to extend my WiFi. I have no issues connecting to 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz (AC).
The only issue I have is that it doesn't roam between those to cells seamlessly.
Hey Folks,
So I'm about to buy my new smartphone to replace the old broken one.
But I'm really confused which one to buy, after some research , I found this 3 smartphones , The OP3 , Meizu Pro 6 plus , Axon 7.
I haven't find any real review comparing these smartphones side by side so I'm looking for your advice to help me choose the best .
My main concerns are :
-Beautiful and vibrant display for movies,youtube,... maybe vr .
-Good audio and crisp sound.
-Performance ( day to day tasks , and maybe gaming from time to time).
-Battery , I expect a full day of usage .
-Good Camera not the best but decent for social media. I don't care about low light .
-Best android experience (not stock experience) , without bugs and lags .
That's it , Please help me and thanks in advance.
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Hey Folks,
So I'm about to buy my new smartphone to replace the old broken one.
But I'm really confused which one to buy, after some research , I found this 3 smartphones , The OP3 , Meizu Pro 6 plus , Axon 7.
I haven't find any real review comparing these smartphones side by side so I'm looking for your advice to help me choose the best .
My main concerns are :
-Beautiful and vibrant display for movies,youtube,... maybe vr .
-Good audio and crisp sound.
-Performance ( day to day tasks , and maybe gaming from time to time).
-Battery , I expect a full day of usage .
-Good Camera not the best but decent for social media. I don't care about low light .
-Best android experience (not stock experience) , without bugs and lags .
That's it , Please help me and thanks in advance.
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This is like your third post already???
The front camera is kinda bad
The battery is okay, will last you enough unless the OS comes weird
Performance is okay
Android experience is okay. Want an app drawer? use Nova Launcher, Holo Launcher, Evie Launcher...
Audio, really good
Display is awesome
The OP3 has worse screen and the OP3T has a nicer front camera. The media speaker is HIDEOUS. But it works, and as long as you use headphones or something else you can forget that
Ask someone else about the Meizu. I prefer the Axon's design over any other asian design thogh
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This is like your third post already???
The front camera is kinda bad
The battery is okay, will last you enough unless the OS comes weird
Performance is okay
Android experience is okay. Want an app drawer? use Nova Launcher, Holo Launcher, Evie Launcher...
Audio, really good
Display is awesome
The OP3 has worse screen and the OP3T has a nicer front camera. The media speaker is HIDEOUS. But it works, and as long as you use headphones or something else you can forget that
Ask someone else about the Meizu. I prefer the Axon's design over any other asian design thogh
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Thanks bro , Yeah I know but i'm still confused it's a hard choice . I asked in another forum and someone told me to think about the Meizu pro 6 Plus as it has a good specs on paper
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Thanks bro , Yeah I know but i'm still confused it's a hard choice . I asked in another forum and someone told me to think about the Meizu pro 6 Plus as it has a good specs on paper
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Do you care about network coverage? This phone is lacking on that regard.
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Do you care about network coverage? This phone is lacking on that regard.
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Yes of course that matters , is it really that bad , I mean my note 5 used to lose signal from time to time when I'm in the bathroom listening to music :fingers-crossed:
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Yes of course that matters , is it really that bad , I mean my note 5 used to lose signal from time to time when I'm in the bathroom listening to music :fingers-crossed:
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It is... If you feel adventurous you can order an Axon 7, test it, then return it if it's excessively bad.
The US version of the Axon 7 has better signal reception, because the A2017U's SAR values are higher (you have more radiation, but the network performance is better).
Overall this means that you'll get -10 dB more than on other phones. Head over to Real life review --> Signal reception (or something along the lines), there some people compare their other phones to the Axon.
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Do you care about network coverage? This phone is lacking on that regard.
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What network coverage is lacking? I know people using it on Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile, and affiliate MVNOS. Don't know about Sprint, but who cares about Sprint? I've rescued many friends from Sprint.
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What network coverage is lacking? I know people using it on Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile, and affiliate MVNOS. Don't know about Sprint, but who cares about Sprint? I've rescued many friends from Sprint.
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So what are your thoughts about cell reception of this phone , does it suck !!
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So what are your thoughts about cell reception of this phone , does it suck !!
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Best Buy in U.S. sells this phone. Here's 306 actual user reviews. 306. You can go read them. Has a 4.5 out of 5 stars rating and 92% of these actual buyers recommend this phone. Some post very detailed reviews about what they liked, didn't like. You can go read them. But over all of HUNDREDS of users, they really really like this phone.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/zte-axo...-unlocked-quartz-gray/5462400.p?skuId=5462400
There was an update, at least for U.S. users about six months ago that addressed boosting signal.
https://www.slashgear.com/zte-axon-7-update-brings-improved-battery-signal-performance-20456713/
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Best Buy in U.S. sells this phone. Here's 306 actual user reviews. 306. You can go read them. Has a 4.5 out of 5 stars rating and 92% of these actual buyers recommend this phone. Some post very detailed reviews about what they liked, didn't like. You can go read them. But over all of HUNDREDS of users, they really really like this phone.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/zte-axo...-unlocked-quartz-gray/5462400.p?skuId=5462400
There was an update, at least for U.S. users about six months ago that addressed boosting signal.
https://www.slashgear.com/zte-axon-7-update-brings-improved-battery-signal-performance-20456713/
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Well the average customer won't notice that
Youssefmans said:
Thanks bro , Yeah I know but i'm still confused it's a hard choice . I asked in another forum and someone told me to think about the Meizu pro 6 Plus as it has a good specs on paper
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Never buy Meizu, every 3 month a new device, you'll get a Meizu Pro 8 plus Edge soon haha
The specs are good, but man the software and the support is a pain in the a**
I bought a Meizu Mx4, and OK it get the new Flyme 6 but based on Lollipop, i tried to understand why the Meizu 6 has Flyme 6 based on Marshmallow: it's a total mindf*cked
Don't even buy a Oppo, same problem
I'm very happy with the Axon 7, the specs are top noch, the camera is improving and battery life is decent...And the 2 DAC on it waw! But just look at the review for all the blabla
And unlike the 2 others, we have some european dev and they try to listen to the community
I have the US version since it became available and like it a lot, i use it on Verizon without any issues.
Its $350 on Amazon and has Amazon's 30 day return no questions asked if you're a prime member. Give it a try. ZTE had 30 day return policy too, not sure if that's still the case and not sure how it works.
Here's Amazon you can also check out for reviews. Almost 600 of them. ZTE Axon 7 Unlocked Smartphone,64GB Ion Gold (US Warranty) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FUF1EL8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_xKhczb9NC424X
To be honest, the network has improved a LOT for me since B19. And I live in an area with very bad cell reception. Couldn't get a decent 3G connection 90% of the time. After the update, I'm getting straight 4G dropping to 3G, though not very often.
Looking at the requirements you have, I'll bet you can't go wrong with the Axon 7. It is a terrific device to own.
You should get this phone. I'm not even thinking of replacing this phone, it has everything and there is no random reboots or lag and I'm running 2 sims and an extra sd card storage on my 128gb axon 7. No problems with signal or anything. Great battery also.
Get this phone and close the thread ?️
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Buy the Axon 7, for me personally it's the best smartphone I've ever owned.
I owned an LG G3, a OnePlus One, and an HTC One M9. All had some issues, probably the OnePlus One had the least. I custom ROM installed Resurrection Remix on all three phones.
Still didn't really work as well as I desired. The LG G3 and HTC One M9 were "AT&T bound" with all the crapware apps AT&T forces on the end-user, plus the useless apps LG and HTC installed.
Out of the box the Axon 7 is hands down, bar-none an excellent phone for money spent! It is now running the ZTE B25 software update which is Nougat v7.1.1
Two year warranty from ZTE also.
I use the stock Android option as I don't care for the MiFavor interface. For years I have used the NOVA Launcher and it's simply, IMHO, the best launcher around.
(Although I have messed around with Evie, I like it second best. Not enough of dock options though.)
The audio is the best, the design is top-notch, some don't like the hardware navigation buttons but after a while the "muscle memory" sets in.
The camera has improved with the updates on software. Battery life is very good.
Reception on the 4G LTE bands are very good for me. (I use AT&T service and in Austin TX it's the predominant carrier and coverage is great.)
Buy the Axon 7 and enjoy it! I believe you won't regret your decision one bit. Amazon currently has the best pricing at $359.99 for either the gold or grey versions.
Hi all,
Long story short, after my H815 (Europe) bootlooped, I got a replacement mother board online which turned out to be a H815T (Hong Kong) model.
But after using a Samsung J7 as my phone for a while, I became a bit suspicious about the "superiority" of the LG flagship compared to other phones. And I started to raise questions about the poor performance of my beloved device. Because many aspects were not working quite at the level I was remembering them or I wanted them to be for ex.:
1. Call Quality
Every time I speak on the phone with someone they complain about the sound. They can not hear me, and ask me to raise my voice or get the phone close to my face. On the other hand sound recording works great, so I assume microphone is OK. (and YES! I checked the "Noise Suppression" setting for calls)
2. Bad Network Reception
Oh god, I can barley get enough reception for the phone to recognize the operator. I am forced to use the phone only on GSM network mode, because on LTE, I can get almost no network coverage even on flat buildings, let alone basements or elevators, on LTE very often phone would go to "emergency only" mode because It could get no reception at all. I live in Kosovo and network coverage is Excellent with my old H815 I had no issue at all, I also used to talk on the phone even at 2600m altitude in the mountains at the border far far away from any village or city with no problem at all.
3. Bad camera quality
Here I'm not so sure if it is just me or it is true. But photos from H815T look nothing special, maybe even not so good. Iphone 5SE and 6S pictures look way sharper and colorful compared to G4. And I remember I used to embarrass Iphones even DSLR's, but now I have no motivation to take pictures, as they look flat, and noisy even foggy sometimes. (cannot understand why since the camera sensor is not changed, I just swapped the mother board)
4. No 4K in youtube
This may just be app's fault, but I cannot watch 4K videos on youtube, however I can review 4K recordings from the phone camera. (this may be good for preventing heating of the processor)
5.Not so snappy performance
Gone are the good days of speed, I remember the time when my G4 was the king, not any more, laggy performance, often freezing, not so great ram management etc etc. The android version I use is 5.1 which I left for performance and heat issue. I can not be sure if it just me who is wanting a better performance or really the phone is not working as it should.
So besides point number 3,4 & 5 which are purely subjective and may vary from personal view or preference, and it is hard to truly prove any difference. I wanted to focus at points 1 & 2 which are really sections when the difference is very CLEAR and H815T performs very poorly compared to H815, and anyone can easy prove that since the effect is evident and obvious.
I wanted to ask If anyone one other than me is experiencing problems of this nature. And is it true that LG (like many other companies) make different quality products for different markets. And the phones sold in Europe are better than those sold in other countries (China in this case)?
Please feel free to give you opinion or add anything you might have noticed on this topic.
Rinor said:
Hi all,
Long story short, after my H815 (Europe) bootlooped, I got a replacement mother board online which turned out to be a H815T (Hong Kong) model.
But after using a Samsung J7 as my phone for a while, I became a bit suspicious about the "superiority" of the LG flagship compared to other phones. And I started to raise questions about the poor performance of my beloved device. Because many aspects were not working quite at the level I was remembering them or I wanted them to be for ex.:
1. Call Quality
Every time I speak on the phone with someone they complain about the sound. They can not hear me, and ask me to raise my voice or get the phone close to my face. On the other hand sound recording works great, so I assume microphone is OK. (and YES! I checked the "Noise Suppression" setting for calls)
2. Bad Network Reception
Oh god, I can barley get enough reception for the phone to recognize the operator. I am forced to use the phone only on GSM network mode, because on LTE, I can get almost no network coverage even on flat buildings, let alone basements or elevators, on LTE very often phone would go to "emergency only" mode because It could get no reception at all. I live in Kosovo and network coverage is Excellent with my old H815 I had no issue at all, I also used to talk on the phone even at 2600m altitude in the mountains at the border far far away from any village or city with no problem at all.
3. Bad camera quality
Here I'm not so sure if it is just me or it is true. But photos from H815T look nothing special, maybe even not so good. Iphone 5SE and 6S pictures look way sharper and colorful compared to G4. And I remember I used to embarrass Iphones even DSLR's, but now I have no motivation to take pictures, as they look flat, and noisy even foggy sometimes. (cannot understand why since the camera sensor is not changed, I just swapped the mother board)
4. No 4K in youtube
This may just be app's fault, but I cannot watch 4K videos on youtube, however I can review 4K recordings from the phone camera. (this may be good for preventing heating of the processor)
5.Not so snappy performance
Gone are the good days of speed, I remember the time when my G4 was the king, not any more, laggy performance, often freezing, not so great ram management etc etc. The android version I use is 5.1 which I left for performance and heat issue. I can not be sure if it just me who is wanting a better performance or really the phone is not working as it should.
So besides point number 3,4 & 5 which are purely subjective and may vary from personal view or preference, and it is hard to truly prove any difference. I wanted to focus at points 1 & 2 which are really sections when the difference is very CLEAR and H815T performs very poorly compared to H815, and anyone can easy prove that since the effect is evident and obvious.
I wanted to ask If anyone one other than me is experiencing problems of this nature. And is it true that LG (like many other companies) make different quality products for different markets. And the phones sold in Europe are better than those sold in other countries (China in this case)?
Please feel free to give you opinion or add anything you might have noticed on this topic.
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Custom Rom or Stock?
did You checked Motherboard connections to some devices you metioned?
uweork said:
Custom Rom or Stock?
did You checked Motherboard connections to some devices you metioned?
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Stock Rom,
Yes I checked connections, because I had to remove the board quite often (but I'll give it another look)
Rinor said:
Stock Rom,
Yes I checked connections, because I had to remove the board quite often (but I'll give it another look)
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One suggestions...Check the Chips that are on the Mainboard with them from Ifixit oder other teardown site.
Maybe they used different ones.
Other posibility is that H815T is not so Compatible with european frequences and parts.
uweork said:
One suggestions...Check the Chips that are on the Mainboard with them from Ifixit oder other teardown site.
Maybe they used different ones.
Other possibility is that H815T is not so Compatible with European frequencies and parts.
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The frequencies are compatible with Kosovo, and also I connect to network, but the reception is very bad.
There must be just two options, bad connection (antenna) or bad board quality. I'll check the antenna connection to main board again to remove any dubt.
Thank you for the your reply and help.
Very first thing you should check before tampering with the hardware is check your firmware. Try upgrading first.
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steadfasterX said:
Very first thing you should check before tampering with the hardware is check your firmware. Try upgrading first.
Sent from my LG-H815 using XDA Labs
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I'll give it a try too!
Thanks!
Not sure if this is the right thread to post it, it'd be helpful if the mods can categorize it correctly as I'm not very frequent here. So it here goes.
I had the Moto X 2nd gen (2014) for about 3 years and I really enjoyed the phone for the time. The 2gb ram and 16gb non-expandable storage was becoming unusable in 2017 and certainly the abysmal battery was not helping either. So was looking for an upgrade and was not planning to go back to Moto ever since Lenovo took over. Yes I'm a sucker for stockish android, so there weren't many options at the time. I'm not a heavy phone user, mostly do phone calls, texting, youtube and music streaming, GPS navigation, some occasional photos and very light gaming as I don't enjoy mobile gaming much(pcmasterrace here). Then the mi a1 was announced with android one program and it definitely seemed like a good deal to me. So bought one the same month it came out. Initial impression were like it's sleek and felt premium and performance seemed slightly better the Moto X2, hated the big bezel, capacitive keys and size of the phone. Overall was happy with it.
3 months on using it, it just died one day. Wouldn't power on, led doesn't light up when connecting the charging cable. Took it to the service center and got to know that the motherboard was dead and since there was no water or physical damage, they offered to replace the board free of charge. But I insisted them to get me a new unit, which they agreed to. And this whole process was quick, I got a call within 1-2 hrs after dropping it off on the first day and got the replacement on the second day. The replaced phone screen had a slight yellowish hue but I got used to it and have been using it till now.
Now here comes the bad part. Not sure if it's just my unit, but cell reception is really bad, calls don't always connect the first time, data doesn't work unless you toggle airplane mode and always had to rely on the home and work WiFi and made a habit of downloading media for the commute. I'm based of Bangalore/India on Vodafone network and most of the other people I know on the network don't have this problem. I don't even want to talk about the GPS as it's a joke. So majority of the things I do are not very doable. Heard many people telling flash a custom roms etc, have to say been there done that and always returned to stock rom because of stability, reliability and security(apps from work require stock unrooted encrypted phone). And what pushed me over the edge was the power button stopped working about 6 months ago, and read online that it was a very common issue.
Finally decided to jump ship and ordered the one plus 7 base model. Been using for about 10 days and aside from being a landslide in performance vs the a1, finally able to stream media, phone calls connect the first time, hurray!! The GPS works like it should and it feels like worth while upgrade from the Moto X. I still hate the size of the phone but at least the bezel are not that big.
An advice to phone oems, try to get the basics right other than adding unnecessary redundant features.
Peace
My Mi A1 has definitely had some issues over time but nothing like you described. In fact the Mi A1 is the best smartphone I've ever owned. The Lumia 630 was great (I was a Windows Phone sucker), my Moto G 2015 was quite good (left it mainly because of battery issues) but compared to those - the Mi A1 is excellent. And yet there are still much better phones.
But my Mi A1 is still usable, no cell reception issues as you described.
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My Mi A1 has definitely had some issues over time but nothing like you described. In fact the Mi A1 is the best smartphone I've ever owned. The Lumia 630 was great (I was a Windows Phone sucker), my Moto G 2015 was quite good (left it mainly because of battery issues) but compared to those - the Mi A1 is excellent. And yet there are still much better phones.
But my Mi A1 is still usable, no cell reception issues as you described.
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Might be like i got a bad unit and do remember having bad cell reception in the initial one i had. Getting two bad units in a rows seems unlikely or i just have a really bad luck
thatrandomnpc said:
Might be like i got a bad unit and do remember having bad cell reception in the initial one i had. Getting two bad units in a rows seems unlikely or i just have a really bad luck
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Where do you live? Could it be it doesn't fully support your carrier's bands?
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nicolasmart said:
Where do you live? Could it be it doesn't fully support your carrier's bands?
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In Bangalore/India on VodafoneIN. From what I got from frequency check, it's compatible.