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Wifi and GPS Performance Worse Than 4 Years Old Phone

Hi Wonderful People at xdadevelopers,
I'm puzzled on how my new Axon 7's wifi, data, and GPS performance lags behind my Samsung Galaxy S3, which was released 4 years ago. I got this phone thinking that it would be an overall upgrade from my S3 but instead I'm left with a device that is slower in performance in terms of GPS accuracy and online speed. (Both data and wifi connection are slower). Is this something that ZTE can improve/fix with software updates/tweaks or it is bad positions/sub-par hardware? Any inputs on this is greatly appreciate it, thank you!

What model do you have? My A2017U was alright on B20, and the B27 made it even better

projectseahorse said:
Hi Wonderful People at xdadevelopers,
I'm puzzled on how my new Axon 7's wifi, data, and GPS performance lags behind my Samsung Galaxy S3, which was released 4 years ago. I got this phone thinking that it would be an overall upgrade from my S3 but instead I'm left with a device that is slower in performance in terms of GPS accuracy and online speed. (Both data and wifi connection are slower). Is this something that ZTE can improve/fix with software updates/tweaks or it is bad positions/sub-par hardware? Any inputs on this is greatly appreciate it, thank you!
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I had a look at your profile and noticed you were on T-Mobile in the United States. Where are you located (Southern California, Texas, etc). If you are with T-Mobile do you have the T-Mobile binge-on feature enabled or disabled? I'm a prepaid T-Mobile customer with two Axon 7's in Southern California and before I disabled Binge-on (T-Mobile's YouTube buffering) I suffered with DATA performance. Now I have no issues at all with DATA or GPS (I use Waze and Google Maps every day for about 2 hours in the car). I'm not sure whether this would affect GPS but I have a feeling it might. Either way I'd try disabling Binge-on (can be done through the T-Mobile app under services | opt out) and see if that helps.
If that doesn't solve the issue I would recommend
1. Going through your APN settings and making sure they match up with T-Mobile's recommended settings
2. Making sure that Google has all the permissions it needs to access your location. Go and check your APP Settings and make sure nothing location based is disabled.
3. Resetting your phone.
If that seems like too much hassle just exchange it for a new one and if you have the same problems with it get another phone (Oneplus etc).

Hi All,
I have the A2017U B27 and yes, I'm on T-Mobile and currently located in Nor Cal. Will try out the recommendations and see if there are any improvements. Thank you very much!

I got similar problem
My axon 7 Gps is not accurate indoor.
And i just find it out much later. Dont know what to do QQ

cho9736 said:
I got similar problem
My axon 7 Gps is not accurate indoor.
And i just find it out much later. Dont know what to do QQ
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No GPS is accurate indoor. GPS is outdoor use only.

Are these issues software related?

sipe1 said:
No GPS is accurate indoor. GPS is outdoor use only.
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But compare to my older phone it is far less accurate indoor though:crying:

indoor next to the window or balcony it finds fix in 20-60s, my colleague xiaomi 4c is faster, outdoor they both perform very good. I wouldn't call it bad gps
Wifi I was scared once I turned my axon for the first time, wifi signal was jumping, disconnecting every 5 sec, after reboot now it works very stable, I have to test maxium range from router, comparing with other phones, but I think it's decent

Locklear308 said:
Are these issues software related?
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Yes they are. They can and will be fixed eventually by ZTE and for sure by CM (in time).
I used to have the exact same experience when I was porting my old phone to CM. GPS issues for the Axon 7 are all software related.

celoxocis said:
Yes they are. They can and will be fixed eventually by ZTE and for sure by CM (in time).
I used to have the exact same experience when I was porting my old phone to CM. GPS issues for the Axon 7 are all software related.
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do you think camera has also room for improvments? I am very happy with shots taken in a broad daylight, also with strong LED lamp they look very sharp and nice, the worst case scenario is when its greyish but not night time yet, not enought light, much noise, sometimes not sharp fotos, white balance is mostly ok for me

simsonavo said:
do you think camera has also room for improvments? I am very happy with shots taken in a broad daylight, also with strong LED lamp they look very sharp and nice, the worst case scenario is when its greyish but not night time yet, not enought light, much noise, sometimes not sharp fotos, white balance is mostly ok for me
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I think there is. I saw pictures taken with Isocells on par with Sony's IMX sensors. It's all about how good the devs (ZTE) code the Camera software.
I agree that in low light conditions the "snap and shoot" can do better. I was able to take good low light conditions pictures in manuel mode.
What we as users need to do is to keep contacting ZTE and state that we want those improvements. Especially in the early month's of release. Because after a year or so. Their dev team will be focused on the next ZTE Flagship and the Axon 7 will be almost forgotten in term of Software updates.
But that's what we paid for a 400$ Chinese Flagship.

after long time spending time with the zte support in germany my a7 still can´t connect to wifi. (B03) also its not possilbe to use LTE with this phone. (soundcloud or youtube most time stuck...), i think i will return it this week and wait for the V20 oder zenfone 3 deluxe....

I saw your same post over on the ZTE forums under the mrfobber username, so I'll just copypasta my response:
The thing is, other people disagree with you (myself included). I realize that you're not the only one claiming that WiFi and cell service is "bad", but it doesn't seem to be universally true.
Obviously some devices are going to be better than others. Hardware, software, and overall design play a role in this. But some comparative tests show no issue with my phone in my area. I get identical cellular reception with my G3, Zenfone 2 Laser, and the Axon 7. I get slightly better WiFi throughput and signal strength with the A7 over the other two, all of which are maxing out my 50Mbps service.
I'm wondering if there's a QC issue here, or if it's just very much dependent on where you live. I mean, where you live obviously plays a role in what your service is like, but it does seem strange to get wildly different performance from two phones under identical circumstances.
I haven't tested the GPS, specifically, just using Google Maps and it's been fine. What sort of test are you doing to compare the two? Cold-start fix times? Number of satellites? What app are you using?

martinmagnus said:
after long time spending time with the zte support in germany my a7 still can´t connect to wifi. (B03) also its not possilbe to use LTE with this phone. (soundcloud or youtube most time stuck...), i think i will return it this week and wait for the V20 oder zenfone 3 deluxe....
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I have a Fritz.Box 7490 WiFi running with an Fritz. Box repeater to extend my WiFi. I have no issues connecting to 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz (AC).
The only issue I have is that it doesn't roam between those to cells seamlessly.

Considering a change of flagships - from LG v20 after just 1 week

Hey guys,
Forewarned. This is a review/rant/suggestion to lookelsewhere. Read on if you dare.
After using this phone for a week I must say, I'm pretty disappointed. While I'm happy with the specs (for the most part) there are more and more problems I have each day which makes me want to change phones.
2nd screen & Main screen resolution:
The addition of a 2nd screen seemed like a pretty awesome addition, but I believe it's a bit overkill without being able to setup customisation of notifications.
Edit 1/12: Have removed some details of second screen in info.
The options for applications or customisation on that screen is SO severely limited, they might as well offer no customisation from the apps other than the 4 you see. The 2nd screen can remain off (while main display is on), or turn on when you lock the main display, OR be on all the time. It's another avenue of losing valuable battery life at the expense of a note so necessary second screen. I imagine this is also quite tricky for devs (or will be) when trying to customise. Also, what happened to the LED light? LG must believe the second screen is better instead, yet they offer way way off setting up specific app notification or the use of colours? It would be better to get something more than a tiny white (and dimmed) icon when the phone is locked? Yes, there's an audible tone, but the LED light allowed me to previously look at my LG G4 from a distance as it cycle-flashed throgh colours letting me know which one (or series) of event notifications I had missed...
QHD display looks awesome on this phone, colours are brilliant. One of the better phones to otherwise look at. I'm glad the battery is 3200mah, because it needs it. I can't really blame the battery capacity as iot's more than most flagships; I blame what wastes the battery more - either a BUG that needs to be addressed in the Android OS itself, orthe fact the QHD is overkill. On that note, why not go amoled instead of IPS? Every 1-1.5 yars when I change phones, my battery size keeps increasing, my usage stays around the same rate, but my bsttery life doesn't seem as great. Generation after generation...why is that? I believe its related to the overkill size of the screen (since flagships keep getting bigger) and the huge QHD boost in resolution.
ORIGINAL POST: This phone, seems to lack ADAPTIVE BRIGHTNESS. Why, oh heavenly lord of all that is SANE, would a company REMOVE this feature? Can't answer for the G5, but it was on the G4 and now it's gone. In strong daylight, I'm blind at using my phone unless I accurately unlock and then adjust the brightness manually myself. This lack of a feature makes it unusable in MANY situations. I could be wrong, but I hope a software update could fix or implement this adaptivity.
EDIT - Update 30/11: I've pushed an OTA update and found this problem to have been addressed, it now appears more responsive and incremental as described below. It had me worried for a minute!!
LG as a company:
Their customer service by phone and chat is quite possibly the worst I've experienced. They know nothing. When they have to escalate a case, they never get back to you unless you pester. yes, many companies could fall into the same category here, but LG 'segregate' every one of their offices for each country. Pick up a LG v20 H990DS in Australia (IDENTICALLY sold in 3+ other countries) and LG Support in Australia have no idea about that. They also ahve no clue about any phones of theirs NOT release din the country you are speaking with. What's worse, is EVERY country has their calls re-routed or redirected to Manila, or some place....so you'd effectively be talking to the same person or team of people regardless if whether you called the AUS or USA support phone number. They are a complete joke.
LG Dev community
Bless your little hearts for the devs that own this phone or are working tirelessly developing for it. It's no secret with the dev community for LG is barely drawing a breathe - LG do nothing for customisation of their elecontrics or provide any interactiopn/support the developer community. Someone can try telling me how they just released a process for the SINGLE SIM USA 'open market variant' to UNLOCK the bootloader....Yeah, that's aweome...for a few dozen people in 1 region of the world. What about every other country or the more popyular dual SIM? Bah... I can't stress how important root has been for me over the years on a phone, an unlocked bootloaderi a bonus, but I don't see it coming any time soon. This is a big enough reason to drop the phone for another with similar specs that has root.
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There's plenty of options out there as we all know, but the clear stand-out for me is the ASUS Zenfone 3 Deluxe. You're probably thinking...why not stop b*tching about this phone and buy that? Well, the developer community for this brand is just as bad - almost non-existant, plus a viable root method (or boot unlock) doesn't exist for this phone yet, otherwise I'd already be on the bandwagon.
FLAGSHIP SIMILARITIES:
-Same CPU
-Same RAM (on 32GB ROM version of Zenfone 3)
-Same screen size
-Both support NFC, dual SIM
BIG DIFFERENCES:
- Zenfone 3 Deluxe *HAS* FHD 1080p resolution, not QHD (but is much better for battery)
- Zenfone 3 Deluxe *HAS* LED light (only 3 colours prior to root)
- Zenfone 3 Deluxe *HAS* adaptive brightness
- Zenfone 3 Deluxe -LACKS- Infrared (IR) which is a big loss
- Zenfone 3 Deluxe -LACKS- No FM radio (not such a big deal to me anymore)
- Zenfone 3 Deluxe runs Marshmalow 6.0, LG v20 runs Nougat 7.0
- LG v20 is more repairable; easy to disassemble and replace parts
- LG v20 allows for dedicated MicroSD slot for expandable memory
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8238&idPhone2=8129
RoOSTA

@roosta
Perhaps consider joining the Xiaomi Mi MIX community:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix
The band support is damn near 100% for your carrier:
http://willmyphonework.net/
Might wanna double-check if you're genuinely interested,the site Frequency Check has different info vs WillMyPhoneWork.
Bootloader unlocking is a breeze (mine came Bootloader Unlocked by the vendor,who installed the Global ROM w/Google,I've since TWRP'ed & installed the EU ROM,much better).
Hoping for CyanogenMod,but,in the meantime,this is nice,just gotta disable the CleanMaster/MIUI bloat (There's a S***LOAD of it,enough to even make Samsung blush,LOL) with TiBu or SD Maid & you'll be good to go.
Whichever device you decide to move to,hopefully it'll have some support from both the mfg & the development community. :good:

ehm... i just don't get it, you chose this phone because it has some features right? and you looked at the specs table too, right? you knew, or at least i did, that there were a few things missing (rbg led for instance)... so why buying it?? it wasn't even a cheap choice, you could have made different choices, you could have gone for a s7 edge if you like big screens for instance, probably even cheaper right now.
auto brightness is there, it hasn't been removed, it's just bugged atm but it's a quite common issue with early releases of softwares, you often hear referring to it as a "lazy sensor"...
the phone you'd like to replace yours with is a totally different phone :/ it seems to have a hifi dac as well, but i couldn't find any real specifics about the chipset... is it as good as the one you're leaving? from the specs i could find on asus website i would guess probably good but not as good? anyway i don't see any mention about hifi dac's on your post, so i guess you don't/didn't care much for it..?
camera is supposed to be a downgrade from your v20... big time. no argue there.
support? asus is quite slow releasing software updates, MM arrived on zenfone2 models in late august/sept, with many many issues and bugs. so my question here would be: when is it ACTUALLY going to see nougat? and are you familiar with asus zenUI?? it's heavy...
so... are you sure you want to trade your v20 for THAT model? for that price??
if you're unsatisfied with your v20, and i can understand it to some extent, just be smarter with your next choice
in my experience phones sporting qualcomm SoC's tend to be supported for for a longer time, and faster. but if you tend to change your phone every 1.5 years you could easily go for a samsung too... and right now IMHO if hifi dac isn't your top priority s7 edge is probably the best choice. price, camera, battery, support. all the package. you have no budget issue, maybe pixel XL? it would have a qualcomm aqstic dac which isn't bad at all... same as htc10.
anyway, good luck with your choice

Um... I don't post often. But, the phone has adaptive brightness. I'm using it right now.
Also, the phone is metal, not plastic. Did I subscribe to the wrong forum? V20 right?

FreeLookMode said:
Um... I don't post often. But, the phone has adaptive brightness. I'm using it right now.
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Cool, prob just need to process the OTA update.
buongu said:
ehm... i just don't get it, you chose this phone because it has some features right? and you looked at the specs table too, right? you knew, or at least i did, that there were a few things missing (rbg led for instance)... so why buying it?? it wasn't even a cheap choice, you could have made different choices, you could have gone for a s7 edge if you like big screens for instance, probably even cheaper right now
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Of course I checked the specs. It ticked most boxes. Bigger battery was a huge plus, IR, FM radio, one of the best RAW manual shooting UI for the camera on the market (etc etc). But this isn't a LG v20 "this is why I love it" thread. There's obvious concessions that need to be made. I clearly underestimated the customisability of the 2nd screen. Even worse, some email notifications (such as new emails) that come through - if the screen is locked/off, the audible notifications don't come through. Perhaps a bug - but pretty average when you spend big dollars on it.
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auto brightness is there, it hasn't been removed, it's just bugged atm
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That's good to hear. LG are trying to push an OTA update, but I didn't want to apply it, JUST in case someone released a root method and it happens to been software-version-dependant.
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the phone you'd like to replace yours with is a totally different phone :/ it seems to have a hifi dac as well ... anyway i don't see any mention about hifi dac's on your post, so i guess you don't/didn't care much for it..?
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HiFI DAC. The biggest marketing spin for a smart phone feature. I'm no audiophile...but I believe I can determine 'quality'. If using a good set of earphones/buds, I don't notice a tremendous amount of difference between this phone and others I've used. Far too much marketing spin was put into this. B&O branding, etc. LG's focus for this flagship is focused on the wrong areas. Instead, they could have focused on a speaker thats LOUD (hence 'loudspeaker'!). Its far too quiet...
buongu said:
camera is supposed to be a downgrade from your v20... big time. no argue there.
support? asus is quite slow releasing software updates, MM arrived on zenfone2 models in late august/sept, with many many issues and bugs. so my question here would be: when is it ACTUALLY going to see nougat? and are you familiar with asus zenUI?? it's heavy... so... are you sure you want to trade your v20 for THAT model? for that price??
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I have no experience with MM personally, nor with ASUS so that information is somewhat helpful. I'm also not familiar with the UI...but I wasn't with the LG version either when I came from 5+ years of Samsung from G6 to the G4...and it was quite easy to get used to it, i doubt I'd have any problems or complaints with the UI based on the reviews I've reached and watched on youtube?
buongu said:
if you're unsatisfied with your v20, and i can understand it to some extent, just be smarter with your next choice
in my experience phones sporting qualcomm SoC's tend to be supported for for a longer time, and faster. but if you tend to change your phone every 1.5 years you could easily go for a samsung too... and right now IMHO if hifi dac isn't your top priority s7 edge is probably the best choice. price, camera, battery, support. all the package. you have no budget issue, maybe pixel XL? it would have a qualcomm aqstic dac which isn't bad at all... same as htc10.
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If i don't switch to a current phone in the market, I'm keeping an eye on the SGS8 by early-mid 2017. I was turned off the Samsung S6 and 7...their designs started turning int Apple iPhone clones - solid body, built in battery, either a 2nd SIM support (OR SD card, not both). lack of FM radio, no IR....I don't care much about the radio any more, but the deciding factory was a dual sim phone that supported B28 700Mhz. 5.5" phone is preferred, 5.7" the largest I'd probably go. I hate front-facing speakers which ae typically found on HTC's...they get filthy over time. Bad design if you ask me. DO these have boot unlocks and root? There's the big one...
KOLIOSIS said:
@roosta
Perhaps consider joining the Xiaomi Mi MIX community:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix
The band support is damn near 100% for your carrier:
http://willmyphonework.net/
Might wanna double-check if you're genuinely interested,the site Frequency Check has different info vs WillMyPhoneWork.
Bootloader unlocking is a breeze (mine came Bootloader Unlocked by the vendor,who installed the Global ROM w/Google,I've since TWRP'ed & installed the EU ROM,much better).
Hoping for CyanogenMod,but,in the meantime,this is nice,just gotta disable the CleanMaster/MIUI bloat (There's a S***LOAD of it,enough to even make Samsung blush,LOL) with TiBu or SD Maid & you'll be good to go.
Whichever device you decide to move to,hopefully it'll have some support from both the mfg & the development community. :good:
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Thanks for the suggestion. I checked the Xiaomi's latest release. No dual SIM support covering band 28 700Mhz. I must say, I am left baffled wondering why all bands are just left as active/achievable depdning on the country. There's NO reason NOT to have them all. I think their latest-release model only has a chinese ROM with support for other countries languages...rather than a global (or country specific) ROM. The dots for the menu/back touch buttons (which i know, are programmable) just looks wonky. Byut yes, the biggest thing it has going for it is bootloader unlock and root, which is huge.
RoOSTA

roosta said:
Cool, prob just need to process the OTA update.
Of course I checked the specs. It ticked most boxes. Bigger battery was a huge plus, IR, FM radio, one of the best RAW manual shooting UI for the camera on the market (etc etc). But this isn't a LG v20 "this is why I love it" thread. There's obvious concessions that need to be made. I clearly underestimated the customisability of the 2nd screen. Even worse, some email notifications (such as new emails) that come through - if the screen is locked/off, the audible notifications don't come through. Perhaps a bug - but pretty average when you spend big dollars on it.
That's good to hear. LG are trying to push an OTA update, but I didn't want to apply it, JUST in case someone released a root method and it happens to been software-version-dependant.
HiFI DAC. The biggest marketing spin for a smart phone feature. I'm no audiophile...but I believe I can determine 'quality'. If using a good set of earphones/buds, I don't notice a tremendous amount of difference between this phone and others I've used. Far too much marketing spin was put into this. B&O branding, etc. LG's focus for this flagship is focused on the wrong areas. Instead, they could have focused on a speaker thats LOUD (hence 'loudspeaker'!). Its far too quiet...
I have no experience with MM personally, nor with ASUS so that information is somewhat helpful. I'm also not familiar with the UI...but I wasn't with the LG version either when I came from 5+ years of Samsung from G6 to the G4...and it was quite easy to get used to it, i doubt I'd have any problems or complaints with the UI based on the reviews I've reached and watched on youtube?
If i don't switch to a current phone in the market, I'm keeping an eye on the SGS8 by early-mid 2017. I was turned off the Samsung S6 and 7...their designs started turning int Apple iPhone clones - solid body, built in battery, either a 2nd SIM support (OR SD card, not both). lack of FM radio, no IR....I don't care much about the radio any more, but the deciding factory was a dual sim phone that supported B28 700Mhz. 5.5" phone is preferred, 5.7" the largest I'd probably go. I hate front-facing speakers which ae typically found on HTC's...they get filthy over time. Bad design if you ask me. DO these have boot unlocks and root? There's the big one...
Thanks for the suggestion. I checked the Xiaomi's latest release. No dual SIM support covering band 28 700Mhz. I must say, I am left baffled wondering why all bands are just left as active/achievable depdning on the country. There's NO reason NOT to have them all. I think their latest-release model only has a chinese ROM with support for other countries languages...rather than a global (or country specific) ROM. The dots for the menu/back touch buttons (which i know, are programmable) just looks wonky. Byut yes, the biggest thing it has going for it is bootloader unlock and root, which is huge.
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Iphone clones? You mean HTC Mx series clones, which apple and everybody else has copied.

Auto brightness is not bugged. Maybe it just works better on T-Mobile units?
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BROKEN1981 said:
Auto brightness is not bugged. Maybe it just works better on T-Mobile units?
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I have a T-Mobile unit and while auto brightness doesn't work great, it's nowhere near as bad as OP suggests. I've never had troubles seeing it in direct sunlight.

bishmaster5000 said:
I have a T-Mobile unit and while auto brightness doesn't work great, it's nowhere near as bad as OP suggests. I've never had troubles seeing it in direct sunlight.
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In direct sunlight it goes to 100%. I'm not sure what issues people have. You can watch how it adjusts itself. Maybe people hate the speed? It does it by increments not all at once.
To be honest, I think the op is ranting for no good reason other then to rant.
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To be honest, I think the op is ranting for no good reason other then to rant.
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Of course, I just do this for the attention.
bishmaster5000 said:
I have a T-Mobile unit and while auto brightness doesn't work great, it's nowhere near as bad as OP suggests. I've never had troubles seeing it in direct sunlight.
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As I said abovr, it's probably just an OTA update that is required on the H990DS to make it work as effectively as the other variants. I've done that now and can confirm it looks to be more responsive. If it's set to auto,
don't make any manual adjustments to the % bar... As regardless of the scene, if you lock and unlock the phone in different lighting situations it's only then it won't adjust.

roosta said:
Of course, I just do this for the attention.
As I said abovr, it's probably just an OTA update that is required on the H990DS to make it work as effectively as the other variants. I've done that now and can confirm it looks to be more responsive. If it's set to auto,
don't make any manual adjustments to the % bar... As regardless of the scene, if you lock and unlock the phone in different lighting situations it's only then it won't adjust.
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I don't have that issue at all.
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roosta said:
I checked the Xiaomi's latest release. No dual SIM support covering band 28 700Mhz.
RoOSTA
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I'm looking at going the other way from a Xiaomi Note 4 and looking at the V20 because of the dual sim and band 28
Have you seen the Xiaomi mi Note 2 , there is an international version that is dual sim and supports band 28

63holdenolden said:
I'm looking at going the other way from a Xiaomi Note 4 and looking at the V20 because of the dual sim and band 28
Have you seen the Xiaomi mi Note 2 , there is an international version that is dual sim and supports band 28
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Looks like great specs. Problem there is I believe it might only be 2G capable on 2nd sim. In Australia, the big carrier 2G networks are turned off as of tomorrow at the time of writing this. 2nd sim must be able to support 3g voice calls with data working on the other sim (that doesn't require it to be dual active: dual standby can work but must use some of the newer chips that support the functionality, namely the new snapdragons)

roosta said:
Looks like great specs. Problem there is I believe it might only be 2G capable on 2nd sim. In Australia, the big carrier 2G networks are turned off as of tomorrow at the time of writing this. 2nd sim must be able to support 3g voice calls with data working on the other sim (that doesn't require it to be dual active: dual standby can work but must use some of the newer chips that support the functionality, namely the new snapdragons)
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I'm in the same boat myself with the 2g network being switched off , I have not been able to find any info on the mi Note 2 confirming 3g on the second sim although i do belive the snapdragon 821 is capable of it
The redmi note 4 that I have with the x20 is capable of this although I'm not a fan of miui , that's one of the reasons I'm looking at the V20 because of the dual sim with 3g capability on sim 2

@63holdenolden what are your concerns with the v20? I can sell the phone as much as I can hang crap on it. None are perfect.

The 2nd screen is customisable.
It can show recent apps, any app in the app drawer, music controls,etc.
Just go to the 2nd screen settings menu.

roosta said:
@63holdenolden what are your concerns with the v20? I can sell the phone as much as I can hang crap on it. None are perfect.
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No real concerns , just being thorough as the v20 will probably be my next phone
I know what you are saying about none are perfect , I cannot seem to find one phone that ticks all the boxes for me but the V20 ticks most of them
How has the reception been for you , I notice a few posts about low signal strength
It would be good to get some local feedback
Thanks

klau1 said:
The 2nd screen is customisable.
It can show recent apps, any app in the app drawer, music controls,etc.
Just go to the 2nd screen settings menu.
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So you're saying, when main screen is off, i can still "customise" my 2nd screen? Go into settings of 'when main screen is off'. In my ROM, i can only choose from Sound profile, wifi, flashlight, bluetooth and capture. Nothing else. (In fact, check the same for 'when the screen is of'. Go to quick tools...there's 5 options. You could argue it's for security, certain stuff can only be accessed when the phone is properly unlocked. That should mean when the MAIN screen is on, you could theoretically pick the apps you want to appear on the 2nd screen, but you can't, Only 'recents'. Same thing for the upcoming events - screen only shows one event. You can;t scroll or view the next (eg if multiple in 1 day). I don't know why they've put so many ceilings and limits to the 2nd screen, it's far from useful
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How has the reception been for you , I notice a few posts about low signal strength
It would be good to get some local feedback
Thanks
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Yeah that's another strange one for me too. I typically only maintain 1/5 of 4G reception despite being in 4GX zone where I live. In the city it's never a problem, but where I am (Telstra) is pretty poor. That said, it's not much different to my G4
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63holdenolden said:
I'm in the same boat myself with the 2g network being switched off , I have not been able to find any info on the mi Note 2 confirming 3g on the second sim although i do belive the snapdragon 821 is capable of it
The redmi note 4 that I have with the x20 is capable of this although I'm not a fan of miui , that's one of the reasons I'm looking at the V20 because of the dual sim with 3g capability on sim 2
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You might find all the informaton you need here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/dual-sim-simultaneous-4g-3g-capable-t3370632

Can anyone tell me if the LG V20 F800 Model has an ir blaster i can seem to locate mines. Thanks

Need Asistance to Make Comparison! Should i buy it?!

Hey guys currently im using a LG G4. I'm tired of not having a stable root, and bad battery.
Now i have a chance to buy this phone and sell my old lg g4 my question is, does it worth? How good the phone is compared to lg g4 and can you root/unlock, find a stable rom, use it as daily device? Thank you in advance.

I think it is a good device but the bootloader unlocking may not go as smooth as you would like. Lots of people have trouble unlocking.
Mine came already unlocked from aliexpress so...
But when unlocked i find root to be very stable.
Nice phone for 170 bucks or so.

its a good phone .....root is stable....performance is good....battery is good but need to fix a deep sleep problem by flashing two little things......

Everything is better on the Remi Pro except the screen resolution and camera quality. Camera on the G4 is much better, specialy in video recordin department. If the camera is not your main priority than buy this phone.
Sent from my Redmi Pro using Tapatalk

I bought it yesterday night. Now I need to figure out how to get Eu stable rom. So far so good. Camera is not that bad compared to lg g4 and from half day usage I can say battery is much better. No regrets.

Basically went through the same decision. Was using G4 dual sim, really needed fingerprint reader for Exchange mailbox. Got redmi pro - amoled screen is much better for all around usage (IPS QHD on g4 is whiter and little bit more detailed, also has gorilla 3, but Redmi Pros screen is more pleasant to look at and you really cant tell the difference of the DPI on normal day to day usage), battery life is considerably better on redmi PRO (around 1000 more mAH, lower resolution screen + possibly weaker processor gives more battery life), build quality is quite good ( i could nitpick here and there, like the fingerprint button dipping a little bit too deep on the left side, for two weeks has not become a problem yet though. metal unibody feels good, although more slippery than leather G4). The camera is my only grudge - although I did not take that much pictures on my G4, I loved the possibility of deep manual control over the camera. With Redmis camera, pictures in the dark are quite bad - but then again the time to focus and actually take a picture are noticeably faster on Redmi, so everyday snaps (for work, facebook chat and so on) are less of a hassle.
One of the true negative sides, is the lack of LTE 800 mhz(band 20 ) on the REDMI, as that is used here by all of the carriers. On G4 I had great 4g coverage indoors and on the road (countrysides, highways), Redmi falls short here, and lives mostly on 3g/3g+, rarely dropping to Edge - although I do get my 10ish mb download speed on the 3g, the networks used to be overburdened a year ago (especially 3g bands, now it is a bit better), so 4g was a saviour. Also the lack of a dedicated SD-card slot is a negative side, although not really a problem. I am yet to decide, if I'm keeping redmi pro as my main device - lack of 800mhz 4g being the only real decisive factor.
On the software side, I flashed Xiaomi EU rom - Sim toolkit started working (did not work on chinese version). Coming from LG factory roms, also having used CM and AOSP mods earlier, miui is a really well made "skin" for android. It is so well made actually, I wouldnt even call it a skin - the design and the configuration possibilites are very good. Besides only few small things, I would place miui over LG, Samsung and AOSP/CM in that regard. Few small gripes I have, is that I cannot seem to assign contacts to a specific sim (for calling purpouses - for example, i want work numbers to always call on sim 2, private numbers on sim1. right now I have to click and hold on the contact/number, and on the menu select Dial with sim X, where x is 1 or 2). In the dialer there are 2 call buttons for each sim, but that works only if you input the number manually. On LG G4, you could easily swap between two sims (selecting the main sim), or assign a sim for a contact.
Another problem, what is starting to get me a little bit, is the dropping of the 3g network - or rather the downstream part. On random times, all downloading ceases yet the phone shows upstream is still active. Sometimes this corrects itself in a minute or two, but when you need the connection now, you have to toggle mobile data off and on. This does not happen with Wifi. It might be the problem with the xiaomi.eu rom, as during the few days I used the factory Chinese rom, I did not notice this.
So basically for me, it comes down to the 4g 800mhz support, which for whatever reason, a lot of chinese phones lack (something to do with India laws?). Otherwise, for 180€ ish euros, this is a great buy ( if it does not degrade over time too quickly, especially the software part).

That's a very good post and very informative. Thank you for time. I hope people can benefit from it.
I have no regret so far. Great battery compared to lg 4. Submitted for the unlocking procedure. I want to have eu rom too. Hope it won't take long.

i think about seling it, miui is day by day more worst. phone is good, amoled is not real amoled, if you put black image and go in a dark room you will se pixel is not closed, not pure dark, only brownish.

help. Would buy axon 7 is a mistake ?

Hi,
i have read many reviews state that axon having low signal reception, so could anybody tell what is the actual cause. Is that related to hardware or software. some says software then would flashing custom OS could solve the network issue ?

I personally think there's something more to do with the dual SIMs. I've had a few glitches but on the whole, it's been a good experience. If I encounter issues, a reboot usually fixes it. I do run 2 SIMs and switch my work one on and off regularly so I guess this is bound to present some issues occasionally. Over this Christmas break, my work SIM has been off and I've not had any issues so kind of reinforces that feeling.
As to low signal, I do believe that with LTE, the phone will switch to low power state to extend the battery life and ramp up when the signal is being used actively. Maybe ZTE implements it more honestly than many other manufacturers? Especially as it's mostly a global phone.
Remember the iFail scandal with death grip? There were many questions over the signal reporting and Apple did adjust the software. That may have been a total placebo just by how it was displayed....

Well, I just can speak for myself. My reception is more or less the same as with the Samsung device I've had before. If anything at all, very rarely there's a little bit of a hiccup concerning my WLAN connection.

alwynjoshy said:
Hi,
i have read many reviews state that axon having low signal reception, so could anybody tell what is the actual cause. Is that related to hardware or software. some says software then would flashing custom OS could solve the network issue ?
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The reception is rather bad in the US. But not exactly too bad anywhere else. I'm in Argentina and I get roughly the same signal as my previous Moto G2, though it's worse than the G2 sometimes (but it's pretty obvious since the Moto G2 was all plastic).
It got somewhat better with the new modem files (bundles in the updates of course). But if you're going to install a custom ROM for whatever reason, download the latest modem file for your phone model.

I see no difference in signal strength compared to my old phones (Z1, Zenfone 3 and CM1). At my desk at the office, I have full strength with O2 UK but crap with 3 UK or EE UK, just the same with my other phone.
A side note is I had seen some complaints about poor call quality (may or may not be related to poor signal strength) being reported and here is my personal experience: The person I was calling yesterday was complaining that it was "noisy" where I was calling from. I said I was calling from the middle of an empty car park, so there could be no noise around me. She then said the "noise" was my breathing, so this shows you how good the phone is.

I love my Axon. I also loved my One M8 before but this feels like the logical precessor: Same hardware design language, AMOLED Screen, Octacore, OIS+Good Camera.. etc.
I got mine for like 170€ used but in very good condition. I never regret this buy, also the dev community here is very active (@OrdenKrieger )
Get one Axon7 in your hands and just use it. You will love it.
Edit: I almost forgot mentioning that ZTE is very liberal with Google; See it has Google Daydream support. Other devices? Galaxy S8, Pixel I/II. They're also good devices but hella lot more expansive.
Hope this helps!

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I love my Axon. I also loved my One M8 before but this feels like the logical precessor: Same hardware design language, AMOLED Screen, Octacore, OIS+Good Camera.. etc.
I got mine for like 170€ used but in very good condition. I never regret this buy, also the dev community here is very active (@OrdenKrieger )
Get one Axon7 in your hands and just use it. You will love it.
Edit: I almost forgot mentioning that ZTE is very liberal with Google; See it has Google Daydream support. Other devices? Galaxy S8, Pixel I/II. They're also good devices but hella lot more expansive.
Hope this helps!
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Quad core actually

G6 any good in 2020?

I have some option between G6, V30 and Nokia 8.
While the V30 and Nokia 8 have better specs (mainly SD 835), they're also significantly expensive. Also Nokia 8 is quite hard to find.
For reference I can get
G6 for around 90-100$
V30 for around 160-180$
Nokia 8 for 150-160$
I'm mainly leaning towards G6 due to it being cheaper, so this is what I want to know; Is the G6 any good in 2020? Can you do some light gaming on it?

Go with the V30, it no brainer above mentioned.

DuringSummer said:
I have some option between G6, V30 and Nokia 8.
While the V30 and Nokia 8 have better specs (mainly SD 835), they're also significantly expensive. Also Nokia 8 is quite hard to find.
For reference I can get
G6 for around 90-100$
V30 for around 160-180$
Nokia 8 for 150-160$
I'm mainly leaning towards G6 due to it being cheaper, so this is what I want to know; Is the G6 any good in 2020? Can you do some light gaming on it?
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G6 is fine. Just don't update to Pie, even if it is available.
Oreo runs fine, takes decent photos (although v30 is better). Slight lag but not really a problem.
Screen is perfect size
I still have mine after 2 1/2 years. Battery is starting to show its age, but still basically gets through the day

Also, make sure you get a version that can be unlocked if you like to tinker

Agree.
It shipped with the leading edge hardware for the time, still competitive today. I bought my lg g6 because it is the best bargain for the power and performance (very good screen, great camera, very good performance, etc).
Don't update to 9.0 if you want to access the root through known 8.0 vulnerability and don't have a model that's easily rooted (h873 for example).
The ones that have easy root have the latest xda firmwares posted - just make sure it's unlocked.
You'll want to hunt down the specific models that have the quad high quality audio dac if you love great music, or the lg g6+ model (had more ram I believe and the dac).
Used models - check the audio jack when you get it. It has the rare issue where the metal contact visible from above might get bent out of shape, resulting in poor/no audio with headphones.
A very gentle bending with a sewing needle fixes that usually.
LCD does have slight temporary burn in.
E.g. If kept on a web page without scrolling glut a long time on high brightness, then display a gray screen, you can see the faint text ghosting for a little bit. Goes away quickly, and usually never visible. I'm thinking it's partially due to the always on display option and the nature of the lcd used.
Main camera is really good - high detail and quality.
Wide camera is good, lacks the optical stabilization (only digital stab.) and fine detail of the main camera, but very handy and good daylight.
Manual mode is great - can set it to take 30 second shots on a tripod at night and get like-day shots.
Overall, if you've used the lg g2, like that but better.
And still very fast and useable today for gaming, web, etc.

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Can G600L be unlocked? Or at least rooted?

adorable said:
Agree.
It shipped with the leading edge hardware for the time, still competitive today. I bought my lg g6 because it is the best bargain for the power and performance (very good screen, great camera, very good performance, etc).
Don't update to 9.0 if you want to access the root through known 8.0 vulnerability and don't have a model that's easily rooted (h873 for example).
The ones that have easy root have the latest xda firmwares posted - just make sure it's unlocked.
You'll want to hunt down the specific models that have the quad high quality audio dac if you love great music, or the lg g6+ model (had more ram I believe and the dac).
Used models - check the audio jack when you get it. It has the rare issue where the metal contact visible from above might get bent out of shape, resulting in poor/no audio with headphones.
A very gentle bending with a sewing needle fixes that usually.
LCD does have slight temporary burn in.
E.g. If kept on a web page without scrolling glut a long time on high brightness, then display a gray screen, you can see the faint text ghosting for a little bit. Goes away quickly, and usually never visible. I'm thinking it's partially due to the always on display option and the nature of the lcd used.
Main camera is really good - high detail and quality.
Wide camera is good, lacks the optical stabilization (only digital stab.) and fine detail of the main camera, but very handy and good daylight.
Manual mode is great - can set it to take 30 second shots on a tripod at night and get like-day shots.
Overall, if you've used the lg g2, like that but better.
And still very fast and useable today for gaming, web, etc.
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Thank You!

"Koren model of the G6 can't be unlocked, only H870 european version and US977 unlocked version. But root is possible in H872, H870 and US977. If you flash another version ROM you can brick your device or may work but with some errors, it is recommended to not do it. "

What about H872? I've heard it is unlocked?

this is an awesome phone for the money but...
I just lost my g6( h872? T-mo?) last week. I bought it off Craigslist on a whim, normally I do heavy research first. I thought I could root it easy, but it turned out to be way more with than I was willing to go through in the end. ( I think because it was updated)
I play COD mobile everyday, I had a iPhone 7 when cod mobile came out which I bought on another whim from a buddy, knowing that I could sell it pretty fast once I was done with it. It played cod pretty smooth but at the time there's no controller support and I knew I could link a controller to Android so I bought the G6.
I never got it to run smooth on the G6 I saw that other people had problems playing pub g and what not. I de bloated it as much as I could without root. Tried disabling and force stopping every app I could. part of the reason I bought it is the ant tutu benchmark was better than iPhone 7 I was using, so I assumed it would be as smooth.
my phone had problems with the headphone jack with static I never tried to fix it wasn't a big deal I only use it when I plugged it into my car. If I wasn't using the Bluetooth. Also I did have the moisture detection problem which became a nuisance. (The phone annoyingly warned you that it detects moisture in your charging port and it stops you from charging) one user on here actually had sent his back and they repaired it LG saying that it was a hardware problem.
I just picked up a pixel two for $80 with the spygen case and a screen protector and this thing is fast and smooth and it's got two large speakers on the front, even though I normally play with headphones. , I just got done playing Battle Royale warfare f****** no problem. I can play on much higher settings and it's much smoother than my G6 was.
I did get a smoking deal because the corner was cracked on the back which I don't give a crap about. But ifhad not found this I was going to buy a G7 off of eBay there's a few on there between $90 and $120 that are factory refurbs. I saw at least one that offered a return policy if there was a problem with it.
That being said when I lost my g6, I reactivated my iPhone 7 just to find out that had a hardware problem with the radio. Every couples hours it says no signal, so I bought the pixel 2 just to have a good phone. I may or may not keep it, I didn't really check the features, I think the G6 and G7 over a lot more features. I didn't check to see if this had wireless charging, also I don't think this takes a memory card (I just bought this).
I noticed on phone arena it whatever, the G6 didn't have VOLTE? Not sure...I wouldn't say it had the best call clarity.
I may still buy one of those g7s off of eBay and then see which one of these phones I want and sell the other one.
Edit: also unlocking the screen/phone wasn't smooth for me, maybe I was doing it wrong. Lack of power button sux.

Why people recommend not update to Pie? just for root purposes?

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Why people recommend not update to Pie? just for root purposes?
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You get better battery but worse performance
Edit: it might be the other way around

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You get better battery but worse performance
Edit: it might be the other way around
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Fortunately, I have better performance and the same worse battery :silly:

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Why people recommend not update to Pie? just for root purposes?
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Because people are TOO LAZY to do the proper factory reset after the upgrade, which should be done ALWAYS after major OS upgrade.
My G6 is running Pie since it was available and I can only say that it made this phone much, much better. Overall smoothness, headphone audio quality... quite a lot of improvements. And battery life is great, too.

How to get sim card configuration settings? Cause no call no data, service is blocked.