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HTC Quality Control

Seriously, what's with HTC quality control lately? Spelling mistakes, loose keypad, uneven screen to frame alignment, flawy camera, sharp lens frame, very poor in-call audio quality etc..
Why is XDA still supporting HTC products only? Toshibat TG01, Acer NeoTouch and many other devices proved that they can outperform any HTC device to date. Is it all about the spectacular 4.3" screen? They relied on that to make people buy their devices?
Well it's either they start considering dropping their handsets price or spend more time on testing and verification because a 600 euros mobile device should be almost flawless. You can even buy a decent computer for such amount of money.

I'm the same opinion.

I think alot of people are overly exaggerating problems.
The in call quality is not poor!? who keeps saying this?! its the best I have ever experienced, yes its loud, but turn the bloody thing down if its too loud!
No spelling mistakes on my O2 rom.
Its the same thing with everything, people will never be happy. Im fed up with seeing the new topics everday with people moaning about the same non-issues.

every groundbreaking new device has a lot off flaws. This was the case with the HTC Universal, HTC X7500, Magicians and etc...
Now with the ROMs of XDA these can become wonderfull products.
The problems with HTC device are not the hardware quality but HTC lack off making stable and good roms with good working drivers....

loomx said:
I think alot of people are overly exaggerating problems.
The in call quality is not poor!? who keeps saying this?! its the best I have ever experienced, yes its loud, but turn the bloody thing down if its too loud!
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I think you are away most of the time from the forum. Call quality is not poor?
Read :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587105
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588925&page=4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591011
Maybe your device is fine but not ours. I think that's what I meant by quality control...

thomas_pieps said:
every groundbreaking new device has a lot off flaws. This was the case with the HTC Universal, HTC X7500, Magicians and etc...
Now with the ROMs of XDA these can become wonderfull products.
The problems with HTC device are not the hardware quality but HTC lack off making stable and good roms with good working drivers....
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Testing and verification is part of the Software Quality control as far as I know.

loomx said:
I think alot of people are overly exaggerating problems.
The in call quality is not poor!? who keeps saying this?! its the best I have ever experienced, yes its loud, but turn the bloody thing down if its too loud!
No spelling mistakes on my O2 rom.
Its the same thing with everything, people will never be happy. Im fed up with seeing the new topics everday with people moaning about the same non-issues.
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Doh. It's too loud on the lowest setting, do you think none of us have searched for the volume slider before complaining it's way too loud???
As for the call quality being the best you've ever experienced, what device were you last using.....two cans and some string? The crackles, pops and distortion are horrible on this device - let alone the excrutiating volume. Either you're part-deaf buddy or you use your device in loud environments. My HD2 is as loud as I would ever expect it to go even at the lowest volume. I want to be able to turn it down from here, not make it even louder!!!

Dunno, I'm quite "picky" when it comes to sound quality/intensity and my HD2 doesn't seem to suffer from these issues. I also set it to the highest volume, and I think it tends to be "weak" sometimes.

Fatherboard said:
Dunno, I'm quite "picky" when it comes to sound quality/intensity and my HD2 doesn't seem to suffer from these issues. I also set it to the highest volume, and I think it tends to be "weak" sometimes.
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You see, I dont want to rely on my luck to get a flawless device. I am not that lucky anyway.
Usually you are unlucky if your device has issues while others don't. But with HTC, you are lucky if it doesn't...

If this helps, that's my radio version - 2.04.50.22_2

Xeon said:
Seriously, what's with HTC quality control lately? Spelling mistakes, loose keypad, uneven screen to frame alignment, flawy camera, sharp lens frame, very poor in-call audio quality etc..
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I have none of this with my HD, maybe you got a lemon?

chainbolt said:
I have none of this with my HD, maybe you got a lemon?
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My HD also was almost perfect when I got it a year ago but not my HD2. I think yes HTC is manufacturing lemons since then.

Unfortunately, a small percentage of all manufactured products will suffer from various defects. This is a standard symptom of mass production.
I haven't seen anything on these forums that would suggest that the HTC's failure rate is any higher than any other company's.

I have a standard o2 rom, maybe it was the base HTC shipped rom thats bad for quality in calls then?
I have had tons of phones old ericssons, nokias, htc atermis, diamond, and iphone and the call quality is much better than all of them.

loomx said:
I have a standard o2 rom, maybe it was the base HTC shipped rom thats bad for quality in calls then?
I have had tons of phones old ericssons, nokias, htc atermis, diamond, and iphone and the call quality is much better than all of them.
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Yeah loomx, you must be one of those lucky guys then. Don't forget that this is not an old phone, it's one of the most expensive phones out yet if not the most. And NO, Nokia high end mobile phones call quality is far better than the HD2. Wanna put money on that?

the sound quality of mine is almost perfect too... a bit too loud. but it doesn't drope calls on me *gg* like some other devices i've used.

Call quality is very good. Not perfect, but I don't know any smartphone with perfect call quality. The HD's is among the best.
However, every new device will have some bugs and HTC devices are no exception. Sure, it seems luke the HD2 has a bit more of them than previous phones, but when you look around in the smartphone space, you'll see lots of devices that came with lots more problems or more serious bugs, like e.g. the SE Satio where they even stopped selling it because of serious bugs, or the Nokia N97, and lots of others.
The HD2 is no exception, but luckily most of the bugs some people encounter can be fixed easily. I rather have a device with a few more bugs that I can easily fix myself than having to wait for months until the manufacturer releases an update or even delays the releas of the device.
So far, my HD2 works great and it's really better to have some small glitches that can be fixed by the community or HTC than to have a device with serious limitations that never get fixed (like the iPhone amd others).

New future owner. Phone coming next week. One question.

Hello everybody.
My name is Lorin and I'm an owner of a 2 months old HTC Touch Pro 2 and I'm thinking of getting the HD2 this week or the beginning of the next week.
I'll keep both phones because i like to have a physical keyboard but i want that huge screen and that speedy processor.
Anyway, i looked on xda for solutions to all the issues mentioned in reviews and by users and i found everything except one thing.
In this review (www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXV_-BUpLy4 , min 13:30), Trent says the speaker quality is really bad when the volume is at the maximum value.
I want to ask you guys if you have the same experience because this would definitely be a no go for me. I mean, the speakers on the TP2 are just amazing... and i know i can't get that on the HD2 but what i hear in the review is simply bad.
Thanks.

Very bad earpiece quality for me. Backspeaker audio quality is mediocre. There are too many threads with Polls. You can have a look. cheers.

it is bad.. HTC doesn't care much about camera and speakers.. dunno why! but ever htc phone that i have owned has these two problems.. i mean there are are very cheap Chinese phones (less than 50 bucks) which have excellent speaker than the ones on htc..

Thanks guys. How's the experience when you watch a movie? When high pitch sounds come in do you hear the speaker making funny noises?

Personally, I think the speaker is great. I have never turned it up to the maximum as at halfway its almost too loud anyway. At halfway I've found the sound to be crisp and better than most dumbphone's speaker. I've also had no problems with the earpiece either.
I think it depends on what batch you get. There seem to be some HD2s with a couple problems and others like mine that don't have any issues.

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Personally, I think the speaker is great. I have never turned it up to the maximum as at halfway its almost too loud anyway. At halfway I've found the sound to be crisp and better than most dumbphone's speaker. I've also had no problems with the earpiece either.
I think it depends on what batch you get. There seem to be some HD2s with a couple problems and others like mine that don't have any issues.
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Agreed.
The sound on mine is good from both the front and the rear. It varies from phone to phone/user to user.

for me the speaker when watching movies an stuff is fine (the external one) but the one when makings calls.... very bad.. very bad indeed! but its still usable. and to be honest its not something i wouldnt purchase the phone for, no way. there`s just too many pro`s why you should buy it. if you get this phone.. you will not be dissapointed.

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for me the speaker when watching movies an stuff is fine (the external one) but the one when makings calls.... very bad.. very bad indeed! but its still usable. and to be honest its not something i wouldnt purchase the phone for, no way. there`s just too many pro`s why you should buy it. if you get this phone.. you will not be dissapointed.
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Yeah but what does take to produce good voicecall quality other than paying 1000$ ? We really payed to much for that device and we shouldn't be annoyed by such a silly annoying crappy earpiece.

I love mine, own an iphone 3gs aswell but its the hd2 that i carry round most.. love it.
Better than my old omnia hd

Coming from a 13 year Nokia history the earpiece is no where near as good, but it serves it's purpose.

I see (hear) no problem with the sound (speaker and earpiece) on the HD2. But I agree with those who think they got the "bad ones from the bunch". The speaker, the earpiece and a lot of other bits and bobs on the HD2 serve their purpose very well. If you want amazing sound I recommend you buy a Hi-Fi system. Good pictures - buy a proper 10 or 12 MPix camera. Recording video - by a proper, HD video camera. GPS - get a standalone machine. But if you want all-in-one with very, very acceptable quality, go for the HD2. Ah, stick in a proper Micro SD Card and you can also have thousands of songs and videos on the go! You really cannot go wrong with it

Xeon said:
Yeah but what does take to produce good voicecall quality other than paying 1000$ ? We really payed to much for that device and we shouldn't be annoyed by such a silly annoying crappy earpiece.
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i agree. we should be getting outstanding!!! call quality for the price these things cost, luckily for me i`m on contract so i havent paid out the £500 or so they cost to buy. i do feel sorry for the people who have bought one and are having real problems with call quality though, it seems to differ with different people i`v noticed. for me its bad, but not bad enough to send my phone back. me personally, i can get over the call quality. i got the phone for all the other qualitys about it really as well, and there are lots!!!! making phone calls is waaaaaaaaaaaay down the list! lol (that doesnt sound right somehow does it! considering i`m talking about a phone! lol)

With my HD2:
Call quality is excellent, the sound through the earpiece is VERY VERY GOOD.
The rear speaker is very loud and sounds metallic (=bad) at max volume. At lower volume, it's good.
It's still better than most other speakerphones I know but not as good as the TP2.
All in all, it delivers what you can expect from a 600€ smartphone. Better than most others.

lorin.bute said:
Hello everybody.
My name is Lorin and I'm an owner of a 2 months old HTC Touch Pro 2 and I'm thinking of getting the HD2 this week or the beginning of the next week.
I'll keep both phones because i like to have a physical keyboard but i want that huge screen and that speedy processor.
Anyway, i looked on xda for solutions to all the issues mentioned in reviews and by users and i found everything except one thing.
In this review (www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXV_-BUpLy4 , min 13:30), Trent says the speaker quality is really bad when the volume is at the maximum value.
I want to ask you guys if you have the same experience because this would definitely be a no go for me. I mean, the speakers on the TP2 are just amazing... and i know i can't get that on the HD2 but what i hear in the review is simply bad.
Thanks.
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The Touch HD will clip a little if turn to max volume, but no way I will claim it as bad at all. I don't think HD2 will worry me about speakers or camera!!

Wow, thanks for all the responses!!!
I ordered mine on 24th so next week i'll have it.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I don't love any phones lol I like the mi mix 2 but prefer the original mi mix. More screen and overall a better phone in my own opinion. Yes the camera is better, yes there are other bits that's better but the sound volume is way to low through the headphones and overall the sound quality is pants anyway. Luckily I've made this mi mix 2 better by rooting it and installing viper as a fix to the poor low quality sound.
For me to buy the mix 3 if it ever comes out it must have some vast improvements over the mix 2.
Conclusion would I buy this phone again? No I'd buy the Mix "again" and wait for 3 to launch.

Maybe you should think about buying a
headset with aptx support

I buy phones all the time. Currently have a mate 9, honor note 8, s8 plus and mi mix2. Just thought the 2 would be a better phone. It'll be up for sale soon anyways to make way for the s9 ?

by far the worst piece of **** i have ever bought with Mi Mix 1, always software issue and their ****ty MIUI, with fcking stupid bootloader. OnePlus is far far better !

Wahoux said:
by far the worst piece of **** i have ever bought with Mi Mix 1, always software issue and their ****ty MIUI, with fcking stupid bootloader. OnePlus is far far better !
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But the decision was yours. Perhaps you should have thought a bit more of IT before buying it.

OK, so i've had this phone a week now, i came from a galaxy s6.
The quality is fantastic for the money, I received the euro version that had english text on the message as you open the box and no problems setting it up.
Weird that people say they have issues with the software, i haven't has a single issue with any apps i used on the S6, banking, email, browsing, games etc. Even Android Auto works exactly as it did previously, which i was surprised about because i heard that there were issues with it not working and was prepared to have to flash to phone to have that work. Not has a single FC.
MIUI is totally fine as a version of android in my opinion, I'm now thinking of sticking with it instead of flashing, which i thought i'd never say tbh. Maybe when lineage oreo is in a close to perfect state then i'll probably move over because i do like stock more, but miui is fine for now.
Battery life has been great, i've had around 1.5 days battery life of normal use, browsing, total of say 30 mins youtube in the daytime, a bit of twitch at lunchtime and general couch browsing/email at night.
Great phone for the money like i said. The single thing i have come across is a weird one, and a non issue really, but when i have the speech audio from android auto such as reading texts or reading out directions, the quality seems like its a low bit rate, where as the s6 was very clear, like listening to a 96k mp3 compared to a 320k mp3.

mi mix 2 is clearly a game phone. It has no ir blaster, no FM radio built in, no audio jack, bad cameras, bad quality sound, crap os(miui). It's a pretty looking device with a powerful chipset though.

papavales said:
mi mix 2 is clearly a game phone. It has no ir blaster, no FM radio built in, no audio jack, bad cameras, bad quality sound, crap os(miui). It's a pretty looking device with a powerful chipset though.
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Can't expect high quality stuff in a cheap phone

Mackay53 said:
Can't expect high quality stuff in a cheap phone
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Basically you pay 400€ for sd835 6gb ram and design, which is not cheap at all, since the price is close to galaxy S8.

papavales said:
Basically you pay 400€ for sd835 6gb ram and design, which is not cheap at all, since the price is close to galaxy S8.
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Then don't buy it. Simple.

Twotems said:
Then don't buy it. Simple.
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totally agree with you. It's too late for me though, because i befooled from the good reviews-promo in youtube

papavales said:
totally agree with you. It's too late for me though, because i befooled from the good reviews-promo in youtube
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I love my Mix2. It's not perfect but in terms of value for money and looks it's unbeatable. Sell yours and buy something else but remember that no phone is perfect.

papavales said:
Basically you pay 400€ for sd835 6gb ram and design, which is not cheap at all, since the price is close to galaxy S8.
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400 is cheap especially considering a top range phone will cost u around 700+ and those ones will have much more features.

I paid for mine, brand new sealed 332 € from AliExpress with topcashback. I don't think I can buy a new S8 brand new and sealed for that money. I had before S8 and Mate 10 Pro. I can say I'm more than satisfied what device gives for the value. Earpiece are same like on S8 and Mate 10 Pro. Main speaker is better on Mate 10 Pro when you turn it on landscape. But those chopines/stutter, what I had on S8 and sometimes on Mate, I can't see it on Mi MIX 2.

I'm surprised about the negative feedback about this phone.
I personally am quite touched by it's bang for the buck ratio, but I also enjoy my original Mix, so maybe I'm just biased towards the Mix series?
Back when headphone jacks started disappearing on these devices I was pissed, as I had a pretty decent pair of headphones that would soon be obsolete but ever since I moved onto my Siberia 840 headset I more or less phased out wired audio entirely, making it less of an issue for me.
At this point I consider wired headphones a retro commodity, such as VHS or DVD players.

Great Phone
I only can say the Phone is amazing. I pay 360€ here in Germany, screen is First Classic,Sound ist good, Speed very good. I Love it.

Advice whether to still buy the Axon 7 in 2018

I have been looking to buy a new mobile phone since my LG G3 bit the dust a few months ago. The one that piqued my interest is the Axon 7 due to the audio hardware (dual DAC and stereo front speakers) which is the one thing I use my mobile for above everything else. I have been looking at the LG G6 with its quad DAC also but the cost difference is hard to ignore especially if the Axon can give me what I am looking for.
I realise that ZTE have discontinued the manufacturing of the Axon 7 but they are still available from some vendors and rumours have arisen about its successor appearing soon. ZTE is allegedly also releasing Oreo to the 7 in April.
So due to an eventual show of the 8, do you think I would be better waiting through January for the Axon 8 or just pulling the trigger on an Axon 7 right now?
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What's your budget? If you're willing to go higher than $400, I'd say get one of the OnePlus phones. Released this year. They have an exceptional dev community (not that ours is bad but theirs is just incredible), and the phones are remarkably solid, especially given the price.
If you're on a budget, then yeah, get the Axon 7 or one of the older OP devices (OP3/3T). You wouldn't have the amazing audio you get with the Axon, but the phones are really, really good.
The Axon 7 is still getting dev support, which is great, but I don't think we'll get to see Android P on our device. Many devs are already losing interest and some people in the community are driving the ones that are left away.
Another option to consider is a used LG V20, which had amazing audio as well.

I am a poweruser so I tend to root my devices almost straightaway usually with magisk so I can use V4A.
I was tempted by the OnePlus 5T and it probably wouldn't be out of my budget, it looks like a really solid phone but with the reports of poor sound quality, lack of DAC and no SD card slot it just didn't fit the bill for me.
I did check out the LG v30 and the specs are an absolute beast on that but alas...so is the price being new on the market lol. The Samsung S8...ERM no...I vouched after they started the bit locking fiasco on the S4 I would never buy another Samsung.
The LG G6 is good for audio but even LG have started regionalizing features now.
These are partly the reason I decided mid to low tear was enough for me as they are easily obtainable from China sim free without ties to contracts and they have a habit of producing good value devices which compete with stupid money flagships.
I am trying to avoid going down the root of second hand devices as I am a big believer in you usually buy someone else's problems especially with manufacturer obsolescence being on the tongues of every techy these days. Its bad enough with the non replaceable batteries in devices!
Bang for buck the Axon 7 is still very desirable...its just the audio I can't ignore and for the price. Bit of a shame that the dev community is losing interest in the axon 7 though, seems a really solid device.
@Gases hope you don't think I am a whining my friend, just me obsessing about my next device lol
So do you think its worth waiting for the Axon 7's successor?
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My view from a value consious type is that the A7 is great hardware for the money and importantly, it still runs fast. Getting O may help keep a little development on it but stock is good anyway. I personally wouldn't buy an LG phone, too many successive devices with serious problems like bootloop which never seems to be fixed. LG don't want their phones to last long.
If you're not the sort of person who must have the latest, then for the price the Axon 7 is still a compelling buy.
If you only choose a phone from the list of Daydream certified devices you ensure a well rounded performance and decent sensors etc. It really comes down to how much you want to spend and nothing much can touch the A7 for value versus it's real world performance. Forget benchmarks and all that junk, it's all numbers and running an Axon keeps reliable performance unlike say, a Samsung which will get the stutters sooner or later. I'm keen to see the O update being closer to stock Android on my Axon, but even on B09N it is still smooth and responsive leaving no reason to even consider buying anything else.
All that being posted, I would like to see the next flagship Axon but like all brands, ZTE will try to grow their price tag as public perception improves. Just look at Huawei as an example. Got too expensive and now put themselves beyond my price level. Wouldn't consider Samsung, HTC and all the others keeping prices double what they should be.

beastobadness said:
I am a poweruser so I tend to root my devices almost straightaway usually with magisk so I can use V4A.
I was tempted by the OnePlus 5T and it probably wouldn't be out of my budget, it looks like a really solid phone but with the reports of poor sound quality, lack of DAC and no SD card slot it just didn't fit the bill for me.
I did check out the LG v30 and the specs are an absolute beast on that but alas...so is the price being new on the market lol. The Samsung S8...ERM no...I vouched after they started the bit locking fiasco on the S4 I would never buy another Samsung.
The LG G6 is good for audio but even LG have started regionalizing features now.
These are partly the reason I decided mid to low tear was enough for me as they are easily obtainable from China sim free without ties to contracts and they have a habit of producing good value devices which compete with stupid money flagships.
I am trying to avoid going down the root of second hand devices as I am a big believer in you usually buy someone else's problems especially with manufacturer obsolescence being on the tongues of every techy these days. Its bad enough with the non replaceable batteries in devices!
Bang for buck the Axon 7 is still very desirable...its just the audio I can't ignore and for the price. Bit of a shame that the dev community is losing interest in the axon 7 though, seems a really solid device.
@Gases hope you don't think I am a whining my friend, just me obsessing about my next device lol
So do you think its worth waiting for the Axon 7's successor?
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When you say that you use your phone for music, what do you really mean? Hi-res, or just FLACs? With V4A or stock?
The AK4490EN is capable of like 768 kHz/32 bit, but ZTE limited to a hideous 96 kHz/16 bit...
Still it sounds much, MUCH better than a standard Snapdragon DAC. Even on custom ROMs. And even more so on custom ROMs with V4A, if you're using MP3s.
I think you have to completely avoid midrange devices. The best choice is to get a high-end CPU even if it's one generation old. The SD6xx series are a world apart in terms of performance.
Also, why do you say that the dev community is losing interest? We lost 1 or 2 devs this year. It was always rather weak, but we're a cozy community and seemingly managed to push enough to get ZTE to get a working Camera2 API and some other stuff (time will tell).

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My view from a value consious type is that the A7 is great hardware for the money and importantly, it still runs fast. Getting O may help keep a little development on it but stock is good anyway. I personally wouldn't buy an LG phone, too many successive devices with serious problems like bootloop which never seems to be fixed. LG don't want their phones to last long.
If you're not the sort of person who must have the latest, then for the price the Axon 7 is still a compelling buy.
If you only choose a phone from the list of Daydream certified devices you ensure a well rounded performance and decent sensors etc. It really comes down to how much you want to spend and nothing much can touch the A7 for value versus it's real world performance. Forget benchmarks and all that junk, it's all numbers and running an Axon keeps reliable performance unlike say, a Samsung which will get the stutters sooner or later. I'm keen to see the O update being closer to stock Android on my Axon, but even on B09N it is still smooth and responsive leaving no reason to even consider buying anything else.
All that being posted, I would like to see the next flagship Axon but like all brands, ZTE will try to grow their price tag as public perception improves. Just look at Huawei as an example. Got too expensive and now put themselves beyond my price level. Wouldn't consider Samsung, HTC and all the others keeping prices double what they should be.
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Totally agree on the LG thing, the G3 was a solid item on the outside but its internals were a different story...like I said manufactured obsolescence! Baking the motherboard on mine was its final death cry lol
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When you say that you use your phone for music, what do you really mean? Hi-res, or just FLACs? With V4A or stock?
The AK4490EN is capable of like 768 kHz/32 bit, but ZTE limited to a hideous 96 kHz/16 bit...
Still it sounds much, MUCH better than a standard Snapdragon DAC. Even on custom ROMs. And even more so on custom ROMs with V4A, if you're using MP3s.
I think you have to completely avoid midrange devices. The best choice is to get a high-end CPU even if it's one generation old. The SD6xx series are a world apart in terms of performance.
Also, why do you say that the dev community is losing interest? We lost 1 or 2 devs this year. It was always rather weak, but we're a cozy community and seemingly managed to push enough to get ZTE to get a working Camera2 API and some other stuff (time will tell).
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Sorry I should have made myself clear when I said mid to low tear phone, I was talking about price not internal specs. Totally agree the SD 820/821 chips might not be the latest and greatest but they are far from obsolete and still perform great... would be nice to have say an 835 but I am not in it for the numbers anyway.
As for my audio format, its a bit of a mix...minimum 320 Kbps to lossless, it really depends on where I got the files from. The max impedance on my best cans are 40 ohms so no studio level stuff.
As for the dev community losing interest...no offence intended, was only expressing my feelings on what I was told by Gases. Cosy is a good thing, its a powerful tool, means there is a passion for the product and if ZTE are listening...even better.
BTW happy new year!
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beastobadness said:
Totally agree on the LG thing, the G3 was a solid item on the outside but its internals were a different story...like I said manufactured obsolescence! Baking the motherboard on mine was its final death cry lol
Sorry I should have made myself clear when I said mid to low tear phone, I was talking about price not internal specs. Totally agree the SD 820/821 chips might not be the latest and greatest but they are far from obsolete and still perform great... would be nice to have say an 835 but I am not in it for the numbers anyway.
As for my audio format, its a bit of a mix...minimum 320 Kbps to lossless, it really depends on where I got the files from. The max impedance on my best cans are 40 ohms so no studio level stuff.
As for the dev community losing interest...no offence intended, was only expressing my feelings on what I was told by Gases. Cosy is a good thing, its a powerful tool, means there is a passion for the product and if ZTE are listening...even better.
BTW happy new year!
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You'll be OK with the Axon 7's DAC -its soundstage is clearly better and it has a lower noise level. The community is nowhere near dying out since most devs maintain only a few devices. And the SD820 still works good.
I don't believe the Axon 9 (I think they'll skip 8, like 2019) will be released before at least May or June. They said absolutely nothing aside from 'there will be a successor to the axon 7'.
Happy new year

I would say yes, I bought mine in Nov last year and it was delivered in Dec. I am loving it every minute with zero issues that I am unhappy with. I bought it to replace a buggy Zenfone 3 (midrange) and I am totally pleased with it.
Cost is a major factor as I had already spent a load of money on the ZF3; it cost the same as a current midrange device (Xiaomi A1) and yet performance is twice of current midrange devices (double benchmark and QHD screen). Yes, it is nearly a 2 years old flagship, but the question is do I need that much firepower from a current flagship? My answer is not really, yours maybe different.
I do not root my phones, had a really bad experience when I hard bricked a device due to faulty instructions and then I got laugh at by the "community". So I only update my devices officially.
I also do not update my devices to the "last" update as I had bad experiences where a device became crap with the final update (likely due to it not able to handle the load?). So I update them once out of the box, and that it. My Axon 7 was updated from B11 to B09 when I got it and it is likely to stay on B09 until the day it dies, unless the feedback on future updates are very positive here. Again, you may use yours differently.

If you disregard all the numbers and technicalities and just want a good sounding phone to play your MP3 library off, you can't go wrong with the Axon 7.
I mostly use bluetooth but do plug in still.
I did this afternoon in the car. Feeding music to the car hifi by wire sounds awesome, for sure it's better than bluetooth and louder too. I just use MP3 and can still clearly hear a difference.
You don't need to be swallowing up 50Mb a song with hi res FLAC files to justify owning the phone.

I've got my Axon7 last month to replace dying Meizu MX4Pro. Few thoughts on the buy.
A7 is fantastic mid-range phone, I've managed to get it quite cheap in almost new condition (~€230).
Performance wise it is brilliant, no hiccups or anything (bear in mind I was coming from Android 5.0 2014 phone )
Now, the sound. I have mixed feelings on this. I'll tell you why.
The speakers are great, but when I say sound quality I mean the headphone out. I didn't have much time to compare it to MX4Pro and my DAP (Cayin N3 - same DAC chip as A7) but I still feel that A7 is lacking a bit. Defo less power than my old phone (or the DAP), I need to crank up the volume to get the detail and dynamics level I want. I'll be trying it with my old C&C amp to see if it will improve.
Don't get me wrong, sound quality is very good, I think it is just the power. But again, my only reference is DAP which has lot more power and one of the most musical phones that was manufactured to date (MX4 Pro has ESS9018 DAC and OPA1612 as an amp).
To sum up - lovely phone with good sound, sound is definitely better than 99% phones out there. If you can get it cheap(-ish) and don't mind 2 year old hardware go for it.

Well it is done...Axon 7 EU version is on it's way! Oooo new shiny's lol and the wait begins
And I put a sneaky order in for the BOBOVR Z5 daydream headset just to test the water with VR and daydream.
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docentore said:
I've got my Axon7 last month to replace dying Meizu MX4Pro. Few thoughts on the buy.
A7 is fantastic mid-range phone, I've managed to get it quite cheap in almost new condition (~€230).
Performance wise it is brilliant, no hiccups or anything (bear in mind I was coming from Android 5.0 2014 phone )
Now, the sound. I have mixed feelings on this. I'll tell you why.
The speakers are great, but when I say sound quality I mean the headphone out. I didn't have much time to compare it to MX4Pro and my DAP (Cayin N3 - same DAC chip as A7) but I still feel that A7 is lacking a bit. Defo less power than my old phone (or the DAP), I need to crank up the volume to get the detail and dynamics level I want. I'll be trying it with my old C&C amp to see if it will improve.
Don't get me wrong, sound quality is very good, I think it is just the power. But again, my only reference is DAP which has lot more power and one of the most musical phones that was manufactured to date (MX4 Pro has ESS9018 DAC and OPA1612 as an amp).
To sum up - lovely phone with good sound, sound is definitely better than 99% phones out there. If you can get it cheap(-ish) and don't mind 2 year old hardware go for it.
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What version of the A7 did you get? Is it on Nougat OS? If it's A2017G on Marshmallow it should improve on stock Nougat.

beastobadness said:
Well it is done...Axon 7 EU version is on it's way! Oooo new shiny's lol and the wait begins
And I put a sneaky order in for the BOBOVR Z5 daydream headset just to test the water with VR and daydream.
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Got mine yesterday in the post from gearbest as a reluctant replacement for my Nexus 6 .
Reluctant, as I wanted to 'upgrade' so had to be amoled, stereo speakers, qhd etc to at least match the beast of a Nexus 6.
Just been using today and smaller screen size takes a bit of getting used to, but sound via speakers is on par with Nexus 6 I'd say not yet tried plug in headphones. Screen is much better and the build quality too.
Very pleased so far.
This weekend may see me attempt boot loader unlock, TWRP, Magisk and Lineage install; although I must say the ZTE implementation isn't half bad, and thats on Marshmellow.
May I ask where you found it for sale? Seems most places out of stock now, and felt quite lucky to snap one up.

8eaker said:
Got mine yesterday in the post from gearbest as a reluctant replacement for my Nexus 6 .
Reluctant, as I wanted to 'upgrade' so had to be amoled, stereo speakers, qhd etc to at least match the beast of a Nexus 6.
Just been using today and smaller screen size takes a bit of getting used to, but sound via speakers is on par with Nexus 6 I'd say not yet tried plug in headphones. Screen is much better and the build quality too.
Very pleased so far.
This weekend may see me attempt boot loader unlock, TWRP, Magisk and Lineage install; although I must say the ZTE implementation isn't half bad, and thats on Marshmellow.
May I ask where you found it for sale? Seems most places out of stock now, and felt quite lucky to snap one up.
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Fasttech had it listed...missed all the holiday discounts though and I think the fact that every other company have sold out has driven the price up on FT slightly but I am not really bothered...I am now hoping it slips past the folks at customs discreetly lol.
I need this to get here asap as my 5 yr old S4 is on its last legs...I think it must have caught something off my deceased LG G3 haha!
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I've had mine 2 weeks, and absolutely love it. It replaced a Sony Xperia Z4 (with the 810 which allowed the phone to double as a hot plate, foot warmer or small space heater.) The sound is everything I expected from the Sony and never got. The screen is beautiful. Battery life is amazing. The Z4 had a max of 3 hours life, and this Axon 7 has seen me through 10 hour days listening to bluetooth most of the day, with 35% batttery left. I found mine on Amazon for $317, the box was scuffed up, but everything inside was pristine and untouched. I'm rooted with WRP, Substratum and Xposed. I have not felt the need to leave stock 7.1.1 as of yet.

Stock Nougat is quite good. I find that here a lot of people are way too trigger happy on the flash custom ROM scene. I only do it if the phone needs it. Custom ROMs usually have issues.
ZTE will release an official and reasonably light Oreo for it this year too.
I think after that, good custom ROMs will follow as they released O sources to a well known dev. I personally wouldn't be bothered with any current Nougat customs seeing as O is coming.

I will probably upgrade and run the axon 7 stock for a few months same as I did with my G3.
ZTE have certainly extended the axon 7's presence in the market though bringing Oreo to it, all the major brands would have EOL'ed support to a device by now especially with it starting on Marshmallow.
Has anyone had the need to swap the battery out yet?
I know there are a couple of good teardown vids on YT and it doesn't look too bad.
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What version of the A7 did you get? Is it on Nougat OS? If it's A2017G on Marshmallow it should improve on stock Nougat.
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its A2017G on Nougat, it starts to grow on me. I've sold my DAP already because I like the sound so much.
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Stock Nougat is quite good. I find that here a lot of people are way too trigger happy on the flash custom ROM scene. I only do it if the phone needs it. Custom ROMs usually have issues.
ZTE will release an official and reasonably light Oreo for it this year too.
I think after that, good custom ROMs will follow as they released O sources to a well known dev. I personally wouldn't be bothered with any current Nougat customs seeing as O is coming.
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With my previous (pre MX4Pro) Android phones I was first to flash custom ROMs. But with A7 I'm happy so far with stock Nougat. Miss the root for few things, but I have too much stuff on the phone and too little time to bother with unlocking bootloader and rooting it as I understand I will loose all present data.
Now, when the Oreo comes, that might change

buying a blackshark 2 right now....worth it ?

So kid smashed my phone. Need something as a stop gap. Came across this beast. Its cheap (280ish), looks good, like the idea of a game mode, properly done. But keep seeing people complain about android 10 ?
So whats the deal with this phone, from the owners. Is it good, is it worth it, the reviews look good, but how actually is it. for updates and stability

barra0205 said:
So kid smashed my phone. Need something as a stop gap. Came across this beast. Its cheap (280ish), looks good, like the idea of a game mode, properly done. But keep seeing people complain about android 10 ?
So whats the deal with this phone, from the owners. Is it good, is it worth it, the reviews look good, but how actually is it. for updates and stability
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Hi,
Im pretty satisfied with my BlackShark2 (not pro). I have version with 6gb of ram and 128gb of storage. Device works like a charm for me and i rarely use it as gaming device, only when i stream my ps4 when TV is occupied. ? Cameras are pretty good to for normal use and sound is amazing both on speakers and on headphones. For that price i think that there is no better device. Build quality is just top, in hand feels better than any premium samsung device.
Hope this helps you to decide. ?

Thank you dude, any issues with Android 10 on it ?

barra0205 said:
Thank you dude, any issues with Android 10 on it ?
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I haven't had any big problem since the update, just the typical MIUI stuff, for example when I listening to music the app sometimes close itself until I lock it from recent apps

barra0205 said:
Thank you dude, any issues with Android 10 on it ?
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Without issues for me. Everything works flawlessly and i bought it 3 months ago.

I got mine fairly cheap few months ago, the cheapest 6gig version so I'm OK with some sacrifices, it's very fast device, stereo speakers sound nice, cameras are average and camera app is pretty bad, screen is nice if a little lack brightness, there is no NFC or headphone jack, battery life is very good and charging is really fast, build quality seams nice too. I'm on Android 9 since I don't like Miui. If you can find it for good price you can't go wrong if you are OK with what it lacks.

I'll sell you mine for 300 with the pro kit (both gamepads) I have the 8 gig version , it's a great device but I'm switching to the fold 2