New future owner. Phone coming next week. One question. - HD2 General

Hello everybody.
My name is Lorin and I'm an owner of a 2 months old HTC Touch Pro 2 and I'm thinking of getting the HD2 this week or the beginning of the next week.
I'll keep both phones because i like to have a physical keyboard but i want that huge screen and that speedy processor.
Anyway, i looked on xda for solutions to all the issues mentioned in reviews and by users and i found everything except one thing.
In this review (www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXV_-BUpLy4 , min 13:30), Trent says the speaker quality is really bad when the volume is at the maximum value.
I want to ask you guys if you have the same experience because this would definitely be a no go for me. I mean, the speakers on the TP2 are just amazing... and i know i can't get that on the HD2 but what i hear in the review is simply bad.
Thanks.

Very bad earpiece quality for me. Backspeaker audio quality is mediocre. There are too many threads with Polls. You can have a look. cheers.

it is bad.. HTC doesn't care much about camera and speakers.. dunno why! but ever htc phone that i have owned has these two problems.. i mean there are are very cheap Chinese phones (less than 50 bucks) which have excellent speaker than the ones on htc..

Thanks guys. How's the experience when you watch a movie? When high pitch sounds come in do you hear the speaker making funny noises?

Personally, I think the speaker is great. I have never turned it up to the maximum as at halfway its almost too loud anyway. At halfway I've found the sound to be crisp and better than most dumbphone's speaker. I've also had no problems with the earpiece either.
I think it depends on what batch you get. There seem to be some HD2s with a couple problems and others like mine that don't have any issues.

meegulthwarp said:
Personally, I think the speaker is great. I have never turned it up to the maximum as at halfway its almost too loud anyway. At halfway I've found the sound to be crisp and better than most dumbphone's speaker. I've also had no problems with the earpiece either.
I think it depends on what batch you get. There seem to be some HD2s with a couple problems and others like mine that don't have any issues.
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Agreed.
The sound on mine is good from both the front and the rear. It varies from phone to phone/user to user.

for me the speaker when watching movies an stuff is fine (the external one) but the one when makings calls.... very bad.. very bad indeed! but its still usable. and to be honest its not something i wouldnt purchase the phone for, no way. there`s just too many pro`s why you should buy it. if you get this phone.. you will not be dissapointed.

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for me the speaker when watching movies an stuff is fine (the external one) but the one when makings calls.... very bad.. very bad indeed! but its still usable. and to be honest its not something i wouldnt purchase the phone for, no way. there`s just too many pro`s why you should buy it. if you get this phone.. you will not be dissapointed.
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Yeah but what does take to produce good voicecall quality other than paying 1000$ ? We really payed to much for that device and we shouldn't be annoyed by such a silly annoying crappy earpiece.

I love mine, own an iphone 3gs aswell but its the hd2 that i carry round most.. love it.
Better than my old omnia hd

Coming from a 13 year Nokia history the earpiece is no where near as good, but it serves it's purpose.

I see (hear) no problem with the sound (speaker and earpiece) on the HD2. But I agree with those who think they got the "bad ones from the bunch". The speaker, the earpiece and a lot of other bits and bobs on the HD2 serve their purpose very well. If you want amazing sound I recommend you buy a Hi-Fi system. Good pictures - buy a proper 10 or 12 MPix camera. Recording video - by a proper, HD video camera. GPS - get a standalone machine. But if you want all-in-one with very, very acceptable quality, go for the HD2. Ah, stick in a proper Micro SD Card and you can also have thousands of songs and videos on the go! You really cannot go wrong with it

Xeon said:
Yeah but what does take to produce good voicecall quality other than paying 1000$ ? We really payed to much for that device and we shouldn't be annoyed by such a silly annoying crappy earpiece.
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i agree. we should be getting outstanding!!! call quality for the price these things cost, luckily for me i`m on contract so i havent paid out the £500 or so they cost to buy. i do feel sorry for the people who have bought one and are having real problems with call quality though, it seems to differ with different people i`v noticed. for me its bad, but not bad enough to send my phone back. me personally, i can get over the call quality. i got the phone for all the other qualitys about it really as well, and there are lots!!!! making phone calls is waaaaaaaaaaaay down the list! lol (that doesnt sound right somehow does it! considering i`m talking about a phone! lol)

With my HD2:
Call quality is excellent, the sound through the earpiece is VERY VERY GOOD.
The rear speaker is very loud and sounds metallic (=bad) at max volume. At lower volume, it's good.
It's still better than most other speakerphones I know but not as good as the TP2.
All in all, it delivers what you can expect from a 600€ smartphone. Better than most others.

lorin.bute said:
Hello everybody.
My name is Lorin and I'm an owner of a 2 months old HTC Touch Pro 2 and I'm thinking of getting the HD2 this week or the beginning of the next week.
I'll keep both phones because i like to have a physical keyboard but i want that huge screen and that speedy processor.
Anyway, i looked on xda for solutions to all the issues mentioned in reviews and by users and i found everything except one thing.
In this review (www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXV_-BUpLy4 , min 13:30), Trent says the speaker quality is really bad when the volume is at the maximum value.
I want to ask you guys if you have the same experience because this would definitely be a no go for me. I mean, the speakers on the TP2 are just amazing... and i know i can't get that on the HD2 but what i hear in the review is simply bad.
Thanks.
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The Touch HD will clip a little if turn to max volume, but no way I will claim it as bad at all. I don't think HD2 will worry me about speakers or camera!!

Wow, thanks for all the responses!!!
I ordered mine on 24th so next week i'll have it.

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HTC Quality Control

Seriously, what's with HTC quality control lately? Spelling mistakes, loose keypad, uneven screen to frame alignment, flawy camera, sharp lens frame, very poor in-call audio quality etc..
Why is XDA still supporting HTC products only? Toshibat TG01, Acer NeoTouch and many other devices proved that they can outperform any HTC device to date. Is it all about the spectacular 4.3" screen? They relied on that to make people buy their devices?
Well it's either they start considering dropping their handsets price or spend more time on testing and verification because a 600 euros mobile device should be almost flawless. You can even buy a decent computer for such amount of money.
I'm the same opinion.
I think alot of people are overly exaggerating problems.
The in call quality is not poor!? who keeps saying this?! its the best I have ever experienced, yes its loud, but turn the bloody thing down if its too loud!
No spelling mistakes on my O2 rom.
Its the same thing with everything, people will never be happy. Im fed up with seeing the new topics everday with people moaning about the same non-issues.
every groundbreaking new device has a lot off flaws. This was the case with the HTC Universal, HTC X7500, Magicians and etc...
Now with the ROMs of XDA these can become wonderfull products.
The problems with HTC device are not the hardware quality but HTC lack off making stable and good roms with good working drivers....
loomx said:
I think alot of people are overly exaggerating problems.
The in call quality is not poor!? who keeps saying this?! its the best I have ever experienced, yes its loud, but turn the bloody thing down if its too loud!
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I think you are away most of the time from the forum. Call quality is not poor?
Read :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587105
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588925&page=4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591011
Maybe your device is fine but not ours. I think that's what I meant by quality control...
thomas_pieps said:
every groundbreaking new device has a lot off flaws. This was the case with the HTC Universal, HTC X7500, Magicians and etc...
Now with the ROMs of XDA these can become wonderfull products.
The problems with HTC device are not the hardware quality but HTC lack off making stable and good roms with good working drivers....
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Testing and verification is part of the Software Quality control as far as I know.
loomx said:
I think alot of people are overly exaggerating problems.
The in call quality is not poor!? who keeps saying this?! its the best I have ever experienced, yes its loud, but turn the bloody thing down if its too loud!
No spelling mistakes on my O2 rom.
Its the same thing with everything, people will never be happy. Im fed up with seeing the new topics everday with people moaning about the same non-issues.
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Doh. It's too loud on the lowest setting, do you think none of us have searched for the volume slider before complaining it's way too loud???
As for the call quality being the best you've ever experienced, what device were you last using.....two cans and some string? The crackles, pops and distortion are horrible on this device - let alone the excrutiating volume. Either you're part-deaf buddy or you use your device in loud environments. My HD2 is as loud as I would ever expect it to go even at the lowest volume. I want to be able to turn it down from here, not make it even louder!!!
Dunno, I'm quite "picky" when it comes to sound quality/intensity and my HD2 doesn't seem to suffer from these issues. I also set it to the highest volume, and I think it tends to be "weak" sometimes.
Fatherboard said:
Dunno, I'm quite "picky" when it comes to sound quality/intensity and my HD2 doesn't seem to suffer from these issues. I also set it to the highest volume, and I think it tends to be "weak" sometimes.
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You see, I dont want to rely on my luck to get a flawless device. I am not that lucky anyway.
Usually you are unlucky if your device has issues while others don't. But with HTC, you are lucky if it doesn't...
If this helps, that's my radio version - 2.04.50.22_2
Xeon said:
Seriously, what's with HTC quality control lately? Spelling mistakes, loose keypad, uneven screen to frame alignment, flawy camera, sharp lens frame, very poor in-call audio quality etc..
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I have none of this with my HD, maybe you got a lemon?
chainbolt said:
I have none of this with my HD, maybe you got a lemon?
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My HD also was almost perfect when I got it a year ago but not my HD2. I think yes HTC is manufacturing lemons since then.
Unfortunately, a small percentage of all manufactured products will suffer from various defects. This is a standard symptom of mass production.
I haven't seen anything on these forums that would suggest that the HTC's failure rate is any higher than any other company's.
I have a standard o2 rom, maybe it was the base HTC shipped rom thats bad for quality in calls then?
I have had tons of phones old ericssons, nokias, htc atermis, diamond, and iphone and the call quality is much better than all of them.
loomx said:
I have a standard o2 rom, maybe it was the base HTC shipped rom thats bad for quality in calls then?
I have had tons of phones old ericssons, nokias, htc atermis, diamond, and iphone and the call quality is much better than all of them.
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Yeah loomx, you must be one of those lucky guys then. Don't forget that this is not an old phone, it's one of the most expensive phones out yet if not the most. And NO, Nokia high end mobile phones call quality is far better than the HD2. Wanna put money on that?
the sound quality of mine is almost perfect too... a bit too loud. but it doesn't drope calls on me *gg* like some other devices i've used.
Call quality is very good. Not perfect, but I don't know any smartphone with perfect call quality. The HD's is among the best.
However, every new device will have some bugs and HTC devices are no exception. Sure, it seems luke the HD2 has a bit more of them than previous phones, but when you look around in the smartphone space, you'll see lots of devices that came with lots more problems or more serious bugs, like e.g. the SE Satio where they even stopped selling it because of serious bugs, or the Nokia N97, and lots of others.
The HD2 is no exception, but luckily most of the bugs some people encounter can be fixed easily. I rather have a device with a few more bugs that I can easily fix myself than having to wait for months until the manufacturer releases an update or even delays the releas of the device.
So far, my HD2 works great and it's really better to have some small glitches that can be fixed by the community or HTC than to have a device with serious limitations that never get fixed (like the iPhone amd others).

Finally N1 or Desire?

Now that some Desire got unleashed in the market, I still don't know what to choose
The single(but very important) annoying thing I have found with N1 is the speaker, Desire has a loud speaker giving actual owners point of view but nobody compared it actually to N1. So if somebody knows if a difference exist and if it's a big one please help me decide
I would never recommend the N1,I am having the worst signal ever,the worst fluctuation.
This is just my personal experience with this device,I am sure others will have better ones.
vegetaleb said:
Now that some Desire got unleashed in the market, I still don't know what to choose
The single(but very important) annoying thing I have found with N1 is the speaker, Desire has a loud speaker giving actual owners point of view but nobody compared it actually to N1. So if somebody knows if a difference exist and if it's a big one please help me decide
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Veg,
Tough call for I, too, was going to wait for the Desire but A) I have no idea WHEN it's going to be released in the U.S. and B) if it'll be available for ATT users. So I got me a N1. So far, so good. I've had no problems and love the darn thing. I'm in Denver and the signal is fine.
Can you hear your N1 ringing if you are in a noisy gym room for exemple?
I heard the speaker is weak because it's at the rear and when posing it on a table it's that that meaking it ''un-hearable''
It seems the Desire suffers the same speaker location righ?
get a Nexus One, and the root it, and install the MoDaCo Desire ROM onto it... best of everything
Got no problem with my Nexus One. Very happy with it
Tmobile nexus one here.. no problems I love it... now tmobile could use more coverage bit thats a new story
temperbad said:
Tmobile nexus one here.. no problems I love it... now tmobile could use more coverage bit thats a new story
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exactly, blame tmobile not the lovely n1!!!
The Desire is the better phone
So nobody can clearly say that Desire is louder than N1(biggest problem of N1)?
i have never had a problem not hearing my n1 ring, in pocket or on table etc
vegetaleb said:
So nobody can clearly say that Desire is louder than N1(biggest problem of N1)?
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well there is an audio hack to increase the loudness (is that a word?) of the speaker
It's for the earpiece voice speaker not ringtones speaker
Man... My N1 scares the sh!t outta me when I forget to turn it down. Now, that's only in my bedroom, but man that thing catches me off guard.
Who knows though... Maybe I just have a loud ringtone.
Blah......
For some reason GSMarena gave the N1's loudspeaker a pretty good score. I found that the max volume of loudspeaker is disproportionally higher that the volume one notch down. At 50% the volume is actually very poor even in a quiet room. This makes me think that the loudspeaker is actually capable of producing loud volume but for some reason it is not doing what it is fully capable of.
Hehe this is exactly what I was saying, ringtones have poor volume on N1.
but NexusDros does it feel low even if the speaker is not toward a table?
I wouldn't say low. But definitely not as loud as my Nokia N85.
all ive gotta say is if the desire has a better touch screen that actually works well and doesnt mess up in the visual test app with the 2 dots... I will have my nexus one up for sale
I'm not really getting what this touchsreen issue thing is... I (luckily) have had not one problem. Don't know what all this buzz is about..

N1 downfalls...

So as much as I wanted this phone to be perfect, after playing around with it for a few days... it just isn't happening. All the shortcomings of the device are starting to get to me...
- Low speaker volume (can be fixed with a mod)
- Low ringtone volume
- Bad sound quality (hissing and low volume)
- Bad radio placement (holding the bottom drops a few bars)
- UI laggyness (this did go away for me after throwing on cyanogen)
- Touchscreen problems (glitches out/goes haywire, not always responsive...)
All of these problems remind me of the Dream/Magic... Is HTC ever planning on improving on any of these downfalls (...ever)? The worst one out of all of them would probably be the touchscreen. I mean the iPhone has been out for what, 3+ years now? Why can't HTC/android put out a decent working KB yet? Typing on this thing efficiently is near impossible. I've owned tons of phones, and with that being said, I was never an Apple fanboi, but in the world of touchscreen smartphones I always end up going back to that damn phone. Sure android is fun as hell to play around with, but it isn't there yet... I can care less about the next processor HTC uses I just really hope they address some of these issues because that would really put them ahead of the game
In all fairness, the iPhone is no king in the RF department either, and the speaker sucks as well, but it has pretty damn good sound quality when it comes to the media department, and the touchscreen on it is perfect. If only HTC (or is it android?) can fix these issues... Because right now the phone feels gimped, and I'd much rather use a JB'ed iPhone, sadly.
I'll probably get flamed for this, but want to see what other people think. 3 friggin years and iPhone has yet to be dethroned. Android is great, but we need someone else to adopt it and produce a worthwhile phone ffs. Look at the X10, another android fail on the horizon *sigh*.
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Had mine since January. None of these issues have presented themselves on mine. Although I did just notice a lot of dust under my screen. Replacement time.
I guess it's possible I got a defective unit. Or maybe I'm just too godamn picky I don't know... I compared it to a friends Droid (Milestone) and his had me beat on the first four things I mentioned. Kind of disappointing when this is the flagship android phone. Though it was manufactured by HTC and I had all these issues on the Dream and Magic, so it's not surprising...
digital bliss said:
So as much as I wanted this phone to be perfect, after playing around with it for a few days... it just isn't happening. All the shortcomings of the device are starting to get to me...
- Low speaker volume (can be fixed with a mod)
- Low ringtone volume
- Bad sound quality (hissing and low volume)
- Bad radio placement (holding the bottom drops a few bars)
- UI laggyness (this did go away for me after throwing on cyanogen)
- Touchscreen problems (glitches out/goes haywire, not always responsive...)
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Yeah, sounds like you had a bad unit. I've had mine for a few weeks and so far so good though I have noticed sometimes the low volume on the call. But ringtones are loud, no hissing and living in Denver, I've had great reception.
digital bliss said:
So as much as I wanted this phone to be perfect,
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This pretty much sums it up. You're expecting a perfect phone, and essentially looking for issues.
No phone is perfect.
Hell, the iPhone's been out 3+ years and can't multitask.
Look at my sign and realize that I've had the gamut of phones.
This by far is the best.
I'm still getting used to the keyboard and the camera isn't as good as 5 MP should be. But then again. No camera is as good as the one that was on my W800.
the droid has a far better speaker on it than the nexus..
i haven't heard any hissing or popping listening to music on mine
the radio placement is only an issue in low signal strength areas, like when you are around -80+DBm signal strength
my UI is fine, sometimes it lags when making a shortcut and im pulling up the application list, but that's only cause i have soooo much installed
have not had a single touchscreen problem, i think most of the time people aren't realizing that part of their hand or fingers holding the phone are touching it.. The digitizer runs almost to the metal edge of the screen it seems, it is very sensitive. The tiniest bit of skin touching the edge of the screen will throw it off.
digital bliss said:
So as much as I wanted this phone to be perfect, after playing around with it for a few days... it just isn't happening. All the shortcomings of the device are starting to get to me...
- Low speaker volume (can be fixed with a mod)
- Low ringtone volume
- Bad sound quality (hissing and low volume)
- Bad radio placement (holding the bottom drops a few bars)
- UI laggyness (this did go away for me after throwing on cyanogen)
- Touchscreen problems (glitches out/goes haywire, not always responsive...)
All of these problems remind me of the Dream/Magic... Is HTC ever planning on improving on any of these downfalls (...ever)? The worst one out of all of them would probably be the touchscreen. I mean the iPhone has been out for what, 3+ years now? Why can't HTC/android put out a decent working KB yet? Typing on this thing efficiently is near impossible. I've owned tons of phones, and with that being said, I was never an Apple fanboi, but in the world of touchscreen smartphones I always end up going back to that damn phone. Sure android is fun as hell to play around with, but it isn't there yet... I can care less about the next processor HTC uses I just really hope they address some of these issues because that would really put them ahead of the game
In all fairness, the iPhone is no king in the RF department either, and the speaker sucks as well, but it has pretty damn good sound quality when it comes to the media department, and the touchscreen on it is perfect. If only HTC (or is it android?) can fix these issues... Because right now the phone feels gimped, and I'd much rather use a JB'ed iPhone, sadly.
I'll probably get flamed for this, but want to see what other people think. 3 friggin years and iPhone has yet to be dethroned. Android is great, but we need someone else to adopt it and produce a worthwhile phone ffs. Look at the X10, another android fail on the horizon *sigh*.
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My media volume was ok at best on full volume but since applying the audio hack its perfect. I never once had a problem with ringtones.
The loud speaker is essentially a single mono speaker so you can not expect 5.1 stereo surround sound. but it does annoy me that my old wizard had 2 speakers and a decent sound.
The radio problem is something I agree with you on. It's like they intended for us to buy Bluetooth headsets because its ridiculous that we have to hold our phones in an unnatural position.
As for the touch screen I only have problems if I have some oil on the phone from my hands. And even then it is rarely an issue.
Sony made the x10 a failure , not Google
Meh... I love This phone.... everything about it.....
Paul22000 said:
This pretty much sums it up. You're expecting a perfect phone, and essentially looking for issues.
No phone is perfect.
Hell, the iPhone's been out 3+ years and can't multitask.
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That's very true, and probably the reason why I keep getting a new phone every 3 months.
mrbkkt1 said:
Look at my sign and realize that I've had the gamut of phones.
This by far is the best.
I'm still getting used to the keyboard and the camera isn't as good as 5 MP should be. But then again. No camera is as good as the one that was on my W800.
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I've had quite a few in the past year alone, and pretty much embarrassed to type them all out. I look at my addiction more as a hobby heh. I am enjoying this phone, don't get me wrong, but maybe expected a little too much for a ~$530 unlocked phone. Then again though, for the price, we're getting a LOT and I really shouldn't be complaining. But also, if these issues were to be addressed (seemingly small issues to most) I wouldn't mind paying the extra.
malicious85 said:
the droid has a far better speaker on it than the nexus..
i haven't heard any hissing or popping listening to music on mine
the radio placement is only an issue in low signal strength areas, like when you are around -80+DBm signal strength
my UI is fine, sometimes it lags when making a shortcut and im pulling up the application list, but that's only cause i have soooo much installed
have not had a single touchscreen problem, i think most of the time people aren't realizing that part of their hand or fingers holding the phone are touching it.. The digitizer runs almost to the metal edge of the screen it seems, it is very sensitive. The tiniest bit of skin touching the edge of the screen will throw it off.
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I hope HTC ups their speaker quality. Motorola has been putting phones out for a lifetime, and I've never had problems in regards to build quality or RF with any past Moto phones I've owned... so in terms of the Droid, I'm a little envious on those two fronts.
I'm in an area with great 3G, so admittedly it's more a pet peeve for me, reminds me of the E71 which had an equally bad radio placement, but that phone actually dropped calls because of it, I haven't had that problem *yet*.
UI is smooth as butter on cyanogen, but when it was stock it'd be spiky going from frame to frame which made me wonder, why... especially with a snapdragon... I guess the memory being freed up by cyanogen really makes the difference?
As for the touchscreen, that could very well be my problem indeed... Reminds me of my laptop touchpad (which is made by Synaptics too, lol). I guess you really need a lot of discipline when using the keyboard/touchscreen something I guess I'll eventually get used to after using it for a few weeks.
jz9833 said:
My media volume was ok at best on full volume but since applying the audio hack its perfect. I never once had a problem with ringtones.
The loud speaker is essentially a single mono speaker so you can not expect 5.1 stereo surround sound. but it does annoy me that my old wizard had 2 speakers and a decent sound.
The radio problem is something I agree with you on. It's like they intended for us to buy Bluetooth headsets because its ridiculous that we have to hold our phones in an unnatural position.
As for the touch screen I only have problems if I have some oil on the phone from my hands. And even then it is rarely an issue.
Sony made the x10 a failure , not Google
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I'm going to try that audio hack later tonight, haven't had the chance to yet but I think it will make me at peace. And yeah it's true that Sony kept to the trend and effed up yet again another flagship release.
I just want a touch with great RF and speakers. Motorola did it, but it included the slideout which I didn't want.
digital bliss said:
So as much as I wanted this phone to be perfect, after playing around with it for a few days... it just isn't happening. All the shortcomings of the device are starting to get to me...
- Low speaker volume (can be fixed with a mod)
- Low ringtone volume
- Bad sound quality (hissing and low volume)
- Bad radio placement (holding the bottom drops a few bars)
- UI laggyness (this did go away for me after throwing on cyanogen)
- Touchscreen problems (glitches out/goes haywire, not always responsive...)
All of these problems remind me of the Dream/Magic... Is HTC ever planning on improving on any of these downfalls (...ever)? The worst one out of all of them would probably be the touchscreen. I mean the iPhone has been out for what, 3+ years now? Why can't HTC/android put out a decent working KB yet? Typing on this thing efficiently is near impossible. I've owned tons of phones, and with that being said, I was never an Apple fanboi, but in the world of touchscreen smartphones I always end up going back to that damn phone. Sure android is fun as hell to play around with, but it isn't there yet... I can care less about the next processor HTC uses I just really hope they address some of these issues because that would really put them ahead of the game
In all fairness, the iPhone is no king in the RF department either, and the speaker sucks as well, but it has pretty damn good sound quality when it comes to the media department, and the touchscreen on it is perfect. If only HTC (or is it android?) can fix these issues... Because right now the phone feels gimped, and I'd much rather use a JB'ed iPhone, sadly.
I'll probably get flamed for this, but want to see what other people think. 3 friggin years and iPhone has yet to be dethroned. Android is great, but we need someone else to adopt it and produce a worthwhile phone ffs. Look at the X10, another android fail on the horizon *sigh*.
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You're brave people in this forum don't like to be told he phone has issues, I was too afraid to even read the responses yet. It's one of the best phones available but I know exactly what you mean. People here don't like this for some reason but its ok to admit that android and specifically the nexus is meant to compete with the iPhone. And so the comparisons logically follow !nd that's a good thing.
The iPhone is Michael Jordan, it changed the game and that's good for us because its really the only competition for Android in my opinion. The iPhone (should) bring the best out of Android.
But I too am frustrated that Android didn't look at the things that work on the main phone its competing with because the nexus really should have a keyboard, touchscreen and browser on par with the iPhone since it came out long after the iPhone. I wish to whichever god is the right one that I had never used the iPhone because I wouldn't realize how different the touchscreens are. It's not that the nexus one is bad its just that it could've been SO SO much better and its doubly frustrating that it came out so long after the iPhone, why not at least aim for iPhone quality? Also, The iPhone is ever so slightly wider and uses a thick keys like system, easy characteristics that make its keyboard substantially better. But with the HTC IME once you get used to it its actually almost adequate.
But be patient because, although I've ranted about wanting Android to fix the vast amount of issues ASAP it looks like Android is more concerned with putting out froyo that's supposed to be the last major update before Android focuses on updates defragmenting its OS. So wait and see what froyo has to offer, im confident and excited about it and I'm as hard on Android and the nexus oneas anyone here.
digital bliss said:
I guess it's possible I got a defective unit. Or maybe I'm just too godamn picky I don't know... I compared it to a friends Droid (Milestone) and his had me beat on the first four things I mentioned. Kind of disappointing when this is the flagship android phone. Though it was manufactured by HTC and I had all these issues on the Dream and Magic, so it's not surprising...
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I doubt you have a defective unit..you are being a LITTLE picky but those problems are there
Paul22000 said:
This pretty much sums it up. You're expecting a perfect phone, and essentially looking for issues.
No phone is perfect.
Hell, the iPhone's been out 3+ years and can't multitask.
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ya but see thats a software issue which can be fixed by jailbreaking the iphone..i had full multitasking on my iphone and it worked perfectly..the hardware on the iphone was flawless for me
the touch screen was PERFECT it supported TRUE multitouch because apple put a proper touchscreen in their phone unlike htcs descion to put a 3 year old glitchy touch screen on their "superphone". Its not glitchy for normal use but for mulitouch is SUCKS. I loved the games on my iphone and controls that were implemented but i cant have them because htc is cheap
altough my g1 and magic had a 3.2mp camera and my iphone had 2.0, the iphone took much better pictures than my htc devices, it didnt have to be bright sunny day to not get a dark picture.
so pretty much android is great htc is cheap. I dont know what happened with the speaker this time because my g1 and mytouch were pretty damn loud, but the touch screen is really annoying. Hopefully they have a better touch screen on the evo4g clearpad 3000 please
When threads like this come around, why do we post in them (I'm being hypocritical of of course), he thinks the iphone (and the Droid I guess) is more superior than this phone, and then everyone in the forum must take out little tidbits of his post and try to convine him otherwise or prove him wrong - which I believe is completely pointless.
Let the guy go on to the next phone, I mean who cares lol
None of these issues are pressent on my phone anyways, I don't use the speaker - I use headphones, my signal is great, my touch screen is great, really everything is simply great. Honestly to me the sole purpose of these threads are to try and make the members of forums mad or shaken up, because lots of people in the Android community get rather irritated when you compare these phones to the iphone. Though they are meant to compete with it - people seem to praise the device to a point that is inhumane.
Really Steve did a good job making little iMinions.
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I wish to whichever god is the right one that I had never used the iPhone because I wouldn't realize how different the touchscreens are. It's not that the nexus one is bad its just that it could've been SO SO much better and its doubly frustrating that it came out so long after the iPhone, why not at least aim for iPhone quality? Also, The iPhone is ever so slightly wider and uses a thick keys like system, easy characteristics that make its keyboard substantially better. But with the HTC IME once you get used to it its actually almost adequate.
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Exactly. It's even worse imagining an iPhone running on android. You would truly have the best of both worlds. But instead you have to settle for one or the other which both have their drawbacks... I'm interested to see what Apple decides to introduce this summer, especially if they decide to unlock multitasking to fight off android.
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But be patient because, although I've ranted about wanting Android to fix the vast amount of issues ASAP it looks like Android is more concerned with putting out froyo that's supposed to be the last major update before Android focuses on updates defragmenting its OS. So wait and see what froyo has to offer, im confident and excited about it and I'm as hard on Android and the nexus oneas anyone here.
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I've always been a fan of Google. With that being said, I'll be looking forward to their next update, but HTC better consider updating a few things... And the reason why I say HTC is because they seem to be Googles main advocate. Perhaps instead of releasing 20 devices a year they should step back and put some $ into R&D and make fewer, but more perfected devices. I hope things change after froyo, and that Google stops playing games in terms of their phones (getting HTC to make them).
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so pretty much android is great htc is cheap. I dont know what happened with the speaker this time because my g1 and mytouch were pretty damn loud, but the touch screen is really annoying. Hopefully they have a better touch screen on the evo4g clearpad 3000 please
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That's the conclusion I'm drawing to as well. I was initially surprised at the build quality of the N1, as it was an enormous step up from the G1, Magic and Dream, but it seems the internals (speakers, radio placement, etc) are still lacking as well as the touchscreen (in comparison to the iPhone). They should have included the clearpad 3000 to begin with, that's what's driving me crazy. Seems they cheaped out on us... to cut down on costs or whatever the excuse was, because didn't that tech surface last summer? I'm curious to see how the clearpad 3000 matches up to the 3 year old Apple touchscreen tech... Then again it's some moderately small company (Synaptics) vs. the monstrous Apple, so I'm not holding my breath. But will try to be optimistic about it. HTC should focus on building high end device because it seems they're just aiming for the mid end and hoping android will sell their devices... at least that's what it seems like to me.
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When threads like this come around, why do we post in them (I'm being hypocritical of of course), he thinks the iphone (and the Droid I guess) is more superior than this phone, and then everyone in the forum must take out little tidbits of his post and try to convine him otherwise or prove him wrong - which I believe is completely pointless.
Let the guy go on to the next phone, I mean who cares lol
None of these issues are pressent on my phone anyways, I don't use the speaker - I use headphones, my signal is great, my touch screen is great, really everything is simply great. Honestly to me the sole purpose of these threads are to try and make the members of forums mad or shaken up, because lots of people in the Android community get rather irritated when you compare these phones to the iphone. Though they are meant to compete with it - people seem to praise the device to a point that is inhumane.
Really Steve did a good job making little iMinions.
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I'm not trying to shake anyone up. If you enjoy your phone, all the power to you, honestly... And LOL at you calling me an Apple fanboi, I haven't used an iPhone in 6 months. The reason I'm comparing certain aspects of this phone to it is because they've done something right. I seriously hate Apple, Steve Jobs and his black turtlenecks... but if I want a touch phone that's reliable, I'd go with the iPhone, hands down. The only reason why I'm posting this is 'cause I'm so distraught at how this phone could have been IT, but it was another miss... And at this point in the game it's starting to get sad. I'm still laughing at you calling me an iMinion. I've owned 3 BBs, 3 HTCs, 2 iPhones and almost forgot the N97 all within the past year... and I hate all of them. Still waiting for THAT phone. If the iPhone had great RF and speakers, I'd love it. Same with regards to the Droid (even more so) but they are a few steps behind to make that happen.
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Anyway, this wasn't the discussion I was trying to spark, far from it. Was hoping for some possible ROM remedies to some of my issues more than anything (mostly being the max volume for everything on the damn phone that makes sound). RF I don't have a big problem with considering the area I'm in is fantastic, and the touchscreen I'll have to suck up and get used to. Perhaps try that swype KB?
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The iPhone is Michael Jordan
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If the iPhone is MJ then it'd be easy to say the Nexus One is Lebron James... but since Google doesnt advertise the N1 much then I'd say its more like Kevin Durant (current best player who doesnt get much attention)
I wasn't calling you an iMinion (though I could've been fooled), I was calling PEOPLE iMinions, because it has been irritating hearing so much of the 'revolutionary' iPhone. Please, I really don't need your phone history.
I guess the love of the phone has just gotten to my head, because I just don't see what the problem is with this phone, and how so many people don't seem to be satisfied. And then they all have to go online and complain as if this phone is simply horrible. Like it doesnt even stand a chance against the iGod, and should be shoved aside until Apple's new invention.
Maybe because I'm simply not having problems, I don't expect anyone else to be having any either. Though, that is an unreal expectation.
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Might get the DHD (Inspire), Some questions.

I have some questions for you dhd owners as they are basiclly the same phone, please be honest.
1.how is the screen quality? With super Amoleds and iphone and atrix's high res screens how does the super LCD hold up? Does it look good in person? Text look good? Is it much better looking then say a 3GS? Very important to me, I want a good screen as I went from the Captivate to the 3G3 (my Captivate broke) and it was a huge downgrade imo.
2.Does the LED light do blue, red, yellow as well or just green and orange?
3.How is the camera quality? Wasnt impressed with the N1's camera and I here the desires was bad as well, this good?
4.How is the phone in person? Build quality? Does it feel REALLY big?
5.Will they get 2.3 officially? Beyond? And will it be supported a lot by xda devs in the future?
6.Music quality is very important to me, is the audio loud and good through headphones?
7.is the phone call quality loud and clear, another problem I had with my N1 and I eventually had to get rid of it because the call quality was too low.
8.Battery, be honest. How is it?
9.And finally how happy are you with your DHD and would you reccomend it to someone at this point in time?
Thanks in advance!
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I have some questions for you dhd owners as they are basiclly the same phone, please be honest.
1.how is the screen quality? With super Amoleds and iphone and atrix's high res screens how does the super LCD hold up? Does it look good in person? Text look good? Is it much better looking then say a 3GS? Very important to me, I want a good screen as I went from the Captivate to the 3G3 (my Captivate broke) and it was a huge downgrade imo.
2.Does the LED light do blue, red, yellow as well or just green and orange?
3.How is the camera quality? Wasnt impressed with the N1's camera and I here the desires was bad as well, this good?
4.How is the phone in person? Build quality? Does it feel REALLY big?
5.Will they get 2.3 officially? Beyond? And will it be supported a lot by xda devs in the future?
6.Music quality is very important to me, is the audio loud and good through headphones?
7.is the phone call quality loud and clear, another problem I had with my N1 and I eventually had to get rid of it because the call quality was too low.
8.Battery, be honest. How is it?
9.And finally how happy are you with your DHD and would you reccomend it to someone at this point in time?
Thanks in advance!
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1. The screen quality is very good. (S)AMOLED vs (S)LCD is a thing that is really down to personal preference. I find LCDs better than AMOLEDs because the colors look more realistic. IMO the only thing AMOLEDs are better is the true black. Viewing angles in AMOLEDs are useless. You never look at your phone at that angle. Compared to iPhone 3G screen the DHD is mindblowing (I think 3GS has the same screen as 3G). Even compared to iPhone 4 the DHD holds its ground. Pixel density is lower but the big screen experience makes up for that.
2. Although the LED is tri-color and theoreticaly it can produce any color, AFAIK there is no way to make it flash other than green or amber for now.
3. Camera quality is good, minding it's a HTC's phone. You can check the camera guide in the sticky thread, there are ways you can improve the camera performance and some actual pictures taken with the DHD.
4. Build quality is amaising. It's my first phone with alluminum body and it makes a difference. Some users reported SIM and/or battery cover misalignment, but I have nothing of the sort. Also on mine DHD the camera is slightly misaligned with the body, but it doesn't interfere with its performance. Actualy I had the same issue with my second Touch HD, while the first one I had was perfect. Anyway that doesn't make photos blurry or anything.
The DHD might seem big, but in a few days you'll realise that it's just that all the other phones are small . I got used to it pretty fast. The fact that most of the area is used by the screen makes it's size reasonable. There is no feeling of a waste of space like on the iPhone.
5. I suppose the DHD will get 2.3 from HTC. Not so sure for anything else, but I'm willing to bet this great forum will not leave the DHD behind
6. The stock headphones are crap. With some quality headphones you can get great sound. Also SRS and Dolby make a difference.
7. Again there are user that complain about low in-call volume. I had no such issues, but it seems that if the headspeaker is not aligned with your ear the volume drops significantly.
8. Battery is good enough. With moderate to heavy use it easily lasts a day. At first it seems bad, because a/ it's still not conditioned and b/ you play with your new phone way too much. Once the excitement about your new toy has passed and the battery has few cycles behind it's back things improve. Charging every night is a must though. I could go through two days only with minimum usage.
9. Being my first Android I'm very excited about the DHD. I bought mine in late October and since then I had no reasons to be sorry about my purchase.
Anyway, if you have the chance to try the phone in person, I suggest you do it. Everyone demands different things from his/her phone and it's always best to see how you feel with the phone.
Thank you very much, main thing I was worried about was the Screen Quality, I mean it not being Amoled or anything and being so big, but thanks again.
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Thank you very much, main thing I was worried about was the Screen Quality, I mean it not being Amoled or anything and being so big, but thanks again.
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In that case I really think you should try it in a shop and decide for yourself. These are things that can most easily be checked with a live unit. Camera, volume, sound quality require more tweaking and time to evaluate, but screen and size are the two most noticable things in the phone
Yup on the 13th I will go to ATT and check out the inspire, I am kinda worried about the battery life but then again it cant be as bad as the 3GS im using...
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Thank you very much, main thing I was worried about was the Screen Quality, I mean it not being Amoled or anything and being so big, but thanks again.
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Big and more portable then a tablet or Dell streak 5"
The screen is more natural then the s-amoled screens. No hard non-natural colors bumping in to your eyes.
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1. The screen quality is very good. (S)AMOLED vs (S)LCD is a thing that is really down to personal preference. I find LCDs better than AMOLEDs because the colors look more realistic. IMO the only thing AMOLEDs are better is the true black. Viewing angles in AMOLEDs are useless. You never look at your phone at that angle. Compared to iPhone 3G screen the DHD is mindblowing (I think 3GS has the same screen as 3G). Even compared to iPhone 4 the DHD holds its ground. Pixel density is lower but the big screen experience makes up for that.
2. Although the LED is tri-color and theoreticaly it can produce any color, AFAIK there is no way to make it flash other than green or amber for now.
3. Camera quality is good, minding it's a HTC's phone. You can check the camera guide in the sticky thread, there are ways you can improve the camera performance and some actual pictures taken with the DHD.
4. Build quality is amaising. It's my first phone with alluminum body and it makes a difference. Some users reported SIM and/or battery cover misalignment, but I have nothing of the sort. Also on mine DHD the camera is slightly misaligned with the body, but it doesn't interfere with its performance. Actualy I had the same issue with my second Touch HD, while the first one I had was perfect. Anyway that doesn't make photos blurry or anything.
The DHD might seem big, but in a few days you'll realise that it's just that all the other phones are small . I got used to it pretty fast. The fact that most of the area is used by the screen makes it's size reasonable. There is no feeling of a waste of space like on the iPhone.
5. I suppose the DHD will get 2.3 from HTC. Not so sure for anything else, but I'm willing to bet this great forum will not leave the DHD behind
6. The stock headphones are crap. With some quality headphones you can get great sound. Also SRS and Dolby make a difference.
7. Again there are user that complain about low in-call volume. I had no such issues, but it seems that if the headspeaker is not aligned with your ear the volume drops significantly.
8. Battery is good enough. With moderate to heavy use it easily lasts a day. At first it seems bad, because a/ it's still not conditioned and b/ you play with your new phone way too much. Once the excitement about your new toy has passed and the battery has few cycles behind it's back things improve. Charging every night is a must though. I could go through two days only with minimum usage.
9. Being my first Android I'm very excited about the DHD. I bought mine in late October and since then I had no reasons to be sorry about my purchase.
Anyway, if you have the chance to try the phone in person, I suggest you do it. Everyone demands different things from his/her phone and it's always best to see how you feel with the phone.
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+1 to this.
About audio volume, generally, I dont have any problems but playing YouTube video's useually nets me very low/weak volume. I have no idea why but everything else plays loud. It might be an app issue, methinks.
The only thing that really sucks is the mic.
1. Screen quality is great. Text is clear, images look wonderful, video is more than watchable on a screen this size (all depending on the source, of course).
2. I've only ever seen green and orange, but I've never needed any other colour.
3. It's an HTC phone; The camera is an afterthought, really. Autofocus performs well, images are typical for a camera phone really. For a quick snap at a party it's great, if you want photos to remember take a digital compact with you.
4. I found the phone very big to begin with, but got used to it very quickly. A lot of reviewers said it was too big to use one handed, but that's all I ever do now. I have big hands and can reach the screen with minimal adjustment. If you have smaller hands, you may have more of an issue. FWIW, typing even in portrait mode with both thumbs is easy on a screen this size.
5. No idea about Gingerbread officially, but I wouldn't be surprised if we got 3.0 on it too. Should be able to run the improved UI as the DHD has a dedicated graphics chip and capable CPU.
6. I sold my iPod. Enough said.
7. Like many people, I find that you need the phone placed very exactly over your ear to get good volume out of it. I also find that unless the phone is pressed against my cheek, the person on the other end has trouble hearing me. Not a big deal, just needed to adjust how I hold my phone.
8. I'd like more battery life, obviously, but I get a day out of it with moderate use, a weekend with light use.
9. I would absolutely recommend the DHD to anyone who wanted an android phone with a large screen, capable software and hardware, and the money to afford one. I almost sold it to get a Motorola Defy, but I'm glad I didn't.
4.How is the phone in person? Build quality? Does it feel REALLY big?
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In my Oppinion the size is not too big. But if you take the DHD than take another Phone, the other one will fell REALLY small!
matzestinks said:
The only thing that really sucks is the mic.
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I am trying to recommend a AT&T phone for my mom, and I am thinking Inspire or atrix. I was leaning toward inspire because it will be available sooner, has a bigger screen, and a higher Megepixel camera. (plus I like my friends EVO)
I know that everybody likes to defend their phone, it is only natural,but please provide some cold hard feedback. There seems to be a lot of not so minor issues with this phone.
problems seem to be mounting from the feedback online:
1. Battery life is bad. every other 4"+ smartphone has a 1500 mah battery, and still have battery problems, so why make it even worse with a 1230 mah?
2. I am hearing the camera sucks. That is just the opposite of my Vibrant I find the pictures and video are incredibly good, and everyone always asks "did you really take that with your phone?" I figured an 8mp camera should be even better than the 5mp on my samsung, am I wrong about that?
3 The Mic sucks? what does this mean? Do people conplain about sound quality on phonecalls?
Dont get me wrong I love HTC build quality as I have had their phones before, but I dont want to buy a phone that I already know has some not so small problems. I also dont want my mom to have to tweak the heck out of the phone to make the battery last a day, or turn the screen down to where she can barely see it, or turn off 3g for goodness sake.
Are the problems popping up on the forums overblown? should I pick up an inspire, or should we wait for the Atrix?
My 2 cents
I'm a HTC die hard but I've had more issues with the DHD than any other devices before it.
A few (key) issues...
- Random reboots. Happened today during a call when an appointment alarm sounded off. Sometimes it just reboots when idle..
- Screen freeze - sometimes the device will not reach on touch input. Wait it out or reboot...
- Lag problem. The unofficial "USB fix" with reduced lags significantly, but not 100% on my device
- Bluetooth is slow to connect and sometimes only connects with HS profile (no A2DP). Half the times it's okay though. Also, A2DP disconnects randomly.
- Integration with Google navi removed in FW 1.72. But even with FW 1.32 there were problems - ex. Google Navi failing to lookup adress' searched from car panel.
This being a flagship device I expected a lot more. I still like HTC devices but I honestly cannot recommend the DHD to anyone.
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I'm a HTC die hard but I've had more issues with the DHD than any other devices before it.
A few (key) issues...
- Random reboots. Happened today during a call when an appointment alarm sounded off. Sometimes it just reboots when idle..
- Screen freeze - sometimes the device will not reach on touch input. Wait it out or reboot...
- Lag problem. The unofficial "USB fix" with reduced lags significantly, but not 100% on my device
- Bluetooth is slow to connect and sometimes only connects with HS profile (no A2DP). Half the times it's okay though. Also, A2DP disconnects randomly.
- Integration with Google navi removed in FW 1.72. But even with FW 1.32 there were problems - ex. Google Navi failing to lookup adress' searched from car panel.
This being a flagship device I expected a lot more. I still like HTC devices but I honestly cannot recommend the DHD to anyone.
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There is something seriously wrong with your phone. For more than 3 months now, I didn't experienced a single random reboot, the only delay I have in touch input is when the phone is installing something and I think that's normal, the only lag issue I had experienced was back in the days when we had no permroot and I had the old version of Visionary (even without temprooting the device). The lag was gone as soon as I deinstalled Visionary, but I turned on USB debugging just in case. I only use BT to connect to my handsfree while driving and when transfering files to/from my laptop and had no problems with that. Don't know about Google navigation because it's not available in Bulgaria, the only flaw in the preinstalled navi app IMO is that it has no landscape mode.
Anyway check what you have installed on your phone and if you have overclocked, reduce the max freq, because the reboots you experience are deffinately not normal nor common.
No problems at all
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I'm a HTC die hard but I've had more issues with the DHD than any other devices before it.
A few (key) issues...
- Random reboots. Happened today during a call when an appointment alarm sounded off. Sometimes it just reboots when idle..
- Screen freeze - sometimes the device will not reach on touch input. Wait it out or reboot...
- Lag problem. The unofficial "USB fix" with reduced lags significantly, but not 100% on my device
- Bluetooth is slow to connect and sometimes only connects with HS profile (no A2DP). Half the times it's okay though. Also, A2DP disconnects randomly.
- Integration with Google navi removed in FW 1.72. But even with FW 1.32 there were problems - ex. Google Navi failing to lookup adress' searched from car panel.
This being a flagship device I expected a lot more. I still like HTC devices but I honestly cannot recommend the DHD to anyone.
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Well mate you should go to a service center whit your DHD a friend of mine has simular problems and in the first serie s of the DHD is a lot that gives problems he went back whit it and they give him a new one
Regards
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I'm a HTC die hard but I've had more issues with the DHD than any other devices before it.
A few (key) issues...
- Random reboots. Happened today during a call when an appointment alarm sounded off. Sometimes it just reboots when idle..
- Screen freeze - sometimes the device will not reach on touch input. Wait it out or reboot...
- Lag problem. The unofficial "USB fix" with reduced lags significantly, but not 100% on my device
- Bluetooth is slow to connect and sometimes only connects with HS profile (no A2DP). Half the times it's okay though. Also, A2DP disconnects randomly.
- Integration with Google navi removed in FW 1.72. But even with FW 1.32 there were problems - ex. Google Navi failing to lookup adress' searched from car panel.
This being a flagship device I expected a lot more. I still like HTC devices but I honestly cannot recommend the DHD to anyone.
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You do have a faulty phone i believe because i do not have does issues..
As for call phone volume i m on the stock rom and i don't have that kind of issues, weird maybe i put right in the first place i don't know.
1. Screen is fab. My original desire amoled screen wasn't as sharp as dhd and I love it.
2. Size well at first I thought it will be to big but after few days i've got use to it and now holding anything smaller feels weird
3. Build quality well. No problems here really. My SIM cover has maybe 1mm gap but I use barely there protection case and don't pay attention to it.
Aluminium body is great but due to the phone being so thin quite often it slips of my hand but with protective case it makes it slightly thicker and it's just right now...
4. Battery is ok I can easily get day use and it's actually better than original desire
5. Camera well I'm not a photographer but photos look very good to me and I love sense photo enhance feature
6. Sound quality well ring tone could be Lauder and i've not been using my phone as mp3 player.
Voice quality is ok imo
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Thanks for the info mattskeet sounds like a satisfied customer to me!
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Just buy your mom an iPhone
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Just buy your mom an iPhone
There's no need to be vulgar.
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What I dont like about the DHD?
1. The battery cover. That thing is damn hard to open.
2. That excess sealing thing at the right side of the LCD.
3. Volume rocker. Its a little to flush and difficult to use.

Amazing headphones

So had the s3 for a few days now but only tried the headphones a few hours ago and I gotta say I'm amazed at the quality. It has very nice bass, which I've never had in regular headphones before. I've always had the cheap 5-10 dollar headphones and I never knew how good they could be. And these come with the phone!
I was playing league of legends with them and sound effects sounded amazing. I'm guessing that's why people buy dre beats? Except this isn't overpriced, paying for the brand, headphones.
Yup, easily the best in box pair I've used...ever I think.
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I actually thought they sound worse than the ones that came with my original galaxy s, and a LOT worse than the high end UE's I normally use. They're still decent for a bundled accessory, but they're nothing to call home about. Just my two cents.
I don't like them at all
Ones that came with my Captivate were really good and used them up until a month ago when they walked off from my desk. Now I've got some Klipsch s4a buds and am highly impressed. Picked them up for $60 from Sonic Electronix, which was about $30 less than everywhere else.
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If you want some really good headphones on the cheap, you can't beat these for the price:
http://www.amazon.com/MEElectronics...&qid=1340712998&sr=1-9&keywords=meelectronics
And this is coming from someone who also has these:
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AHD2000...F8&qid=1340713391&sr=1-1&keywords=denon+d2000
I know these are going to be a bit pricey, but trust me its worth it. (ive tried other ones in the same price range , these are the best that deliver in every category)
Delivers bass (but not to the point where it drowns out the music), delivers sound quality and clarity like you havent heard before (but you can hear every other element in the back and still have bass)
it hurts to listen to music with anything else
Ive owned the previous version of these (530), and since 2008 ive only been pleased.
Currently i have the 535 (latest version)
http://www.shure.com/americas/produ...nes/se-models/se535-sound-isolating-earphones
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/25/shure-se535-review/
http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/shure-se535-metallic-bronze/4505-7877_7-34168053.html
enjoy
i need to try them out on the s3
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I know these are going to be a bit pricey, but trust me its worth it. (ive tried other ones in the same price range , these are the best that deliver in every category)
Delivers bass (but not to the point where it drowns out the music), delivers sound quality and clarity like you havent heard before (but you can hear every other element in the back and still have bass)
it hurts to listen to music with anything else
Ive owned the previous version of these (530), and since 2008 ive only been pleased.
Currently i have the 535 (latest version)
http://www.shure.com/americas/produ...nes/se-models/se535-sound-isolating-earphones
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/25/shure-se535-review/
http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/shure-se535-metallic-bronze/4505-7877_7-34168053.html
enjoy
i need to try them out on the s3
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those are ridiculously priced! 449.00 off of amazon geez
bkeaver said:
those are ridiculously priced! 449.00 off of amazon geez
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i knowwww, but ive tried using even the 100 dollar bose ones, and the 100 dollar shure ones.
regardless none deliver like this one.
the way i looked at it was : im always listening to music, always at my desk, always using headphones. Why not get something that will MAKE me want to actually sit and do work and enjoy it. And plus whats the point of paying 50 dollars every couple of months cuz the headphones broke? These have a warranty and every year i send them back and get new ones and that warranty gets extended.
its worth it.
junglizste said:
If you want some really good headphones on the cheap, you can't beat these for the price:
http://www.amazon.com/MEElectronics...&qid=1340712998&sr=1-9&keywords=meelectronics
And this is coming from someone who also has these:
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AHD2000...F8&qid=1340713391&sr=1-1&keywords=denon+d2000
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Are you a meelectronics user yourself? Nice! I am too, but I have the M6P's with the built in phone controls. I have yet to find a pair of IEM's that cost twice as much as these that can compare, certainly nothing at this price point or below.
http://www.amazon.com/MEElectronics...hones-Smartphones/dp/B003VTZPO8/ref=pd_cp_e_0
And the eartips can be swapped out for the "marshmallow" type, Comply T-400's, commonly found on JVC Marshmallow IEM's.
doctorTJ said:
I know these are going to be a bit pricey, but trust me its worth it. (ive tried other ones in the same price range , these are the best that deliver in every category)
Delivers bass (but not to the point where it drowns out the music), delivers sound quality and clarity like you havent heard before (but you can hear every other element in the back and still have bass)
it hurts to listen to music with anything else
Ive owned the previous version of these (530), and since 2008 ive only been pleased.
Currently i have the 535 (latest version)
http://www.shure.com/americas/produ...nes/se-models/se535-sound-isolating-earphones
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/25/shure-se535-review/
http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/shure-se535-metallic-bronze/4505-7877_7-34168053.html
enjoy
i need to try them out on the s3
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If we're going to toss in some high end IEM's, I'll throw mine in the circle as well.
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-IE80-Headphone/dp/B006EK9J9S/ref=pd_cp_e_1
If you like hip-hop, trance, or anything that needs a good quantity of solid bass. These are it.
If you like really wide soundstages. This is also it.
It has a screw on each monitor you can turn for more or less bass as well.
As the Head-fi saying goes, sorry for your wallet if you decide to get either, but your ears won't be sorry.
LOL, this is gonna sound dumb but, I bought some ear buds from Big Lots the other day for 5 dollars. They were impressive. As long as I don't try on a good pair to compare, I'll be good.
That said, the GS3 comes with a pair right?
Maverick777 said:
If we're going to toss in some high end IEM's, I'll throw mine in the circle as well.
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-IE80-Headphone/dp/B006EK9J9S/ref=pd_cp_e_1
If you like hip-hop, trance, or anything that needs a good quantity of solid bass. These are it.
If you like really wide soundstages. This is also it.
It has a screw on each monitor you can turn for more or less bass as well.
As the Head-fi saying goes, sorry for your wallet if you decide to get either, but your ears won't be sorry.
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perfect way to say it (headfi)
i had these , and as you said, for bass intense it will be these, i ultimately still ended up keeping my shures, felt they were a little clearer
but u cant go wrong either way. :good:
I can't wear in-ear phones for more than half hour.
How can you guys do that?
I use Audeo PFE.
My go-to earbuds for a couple of years now have been the Razer M100, now called the Moray:
http://www.amazon.com/Razer-In-Ear-...hones--Black/dp/B001HN6PBM/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8
They show up on Woot every once in a while for $15 a pair and I get 3 and give a pair or two to friends and family. I've tried a lot of earbuds over the years, and even at $30-40, these are about the best-sounding ones I've found. They isolate outside noise well, have really good bass response, clear sound overall, and the small size makes them easy to wear without them getting knocked loose.
Definitely worth checking out if you're shopping in that price range.
nabbed said:
I can't wear in-ear phones for more than half hour.
How can you guys do that?
I use Audeo PFE.
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Its all about the eartips! Comply T-400's FTW!
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Its all about the eartips! Comply T-400's FTW!
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+1 for Comply. Have them on my Super-fi 5 Pro's. Very comfortable but you have to change them out every now and then when they get too dirty.
On my IE8 I'm using Sony Hybrid Tips.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-EPEX10A-BLK-Replacement-Earbuds/dp/B001RB24UA
They are very comfortable.
incubus26jc said:
LOL, this is gonna sound dumb but, I bought some ear buds from Big Lots the other day for 5 dollars. They were impressive. As long as I don't try on a good pair to compare, I'll be good.
That said, the GS3 comes with a pair right?
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yes, they some with some and from what I have experienced, they aren't too bad. i mean if you are just using them to work out or study like me then they are good. Also, i just got these below and i love them and they're not too expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/MEElectronics...hones-Smartphones/dp/B003VTZPO8/ref=pd_cp_e_0
ge3kswag said:
Also, i just got these below and i love them and they're not too expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/MEElectronics...hones-Smartphones/dp/B003VTZPO8/ref=pd_cp_e_0
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Yeah, those are nice. I love mine
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At my desk, I'm still using an old pair of Sennheiser HD590's open-ears through a Fiio headphone amp. For non-amped in-ears I've switched from my broken Shure's (which sounded amazing) to the still-highly rated Klipsch IMAGE S4's.
The Klipsch's sound really good, but they do have just a tad too much bass, but at least they're no where near the huge amount of bass that BeatsByDre gimmicky crap imposes.

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