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Hi guys, I should start by saying that I posted this here because I have an 8125 (eBay!). I only bought it because I needed a phone and I thought this looked like a fun device to browse the web with... then I go searching on the internet for other owners and stumble across all this incredible depth and complexity available to the little thing.
Problem is, I have no idea what to do with anything software wise.
So what i`m askin is...
Is there a starter`s guide to the basics of modifying the phone`s software?
Where can I go to learn about what IPL, SPL, CID, SIM, ROM, all actually mean/do/are?
The few things I know so far are that I have a G4 wizard and by simply following instructions blindly, I managed to install SNN3.1 on it (no idea what I actually used or how, honestly!). I`ve decided now that while SNN has been nice for a week, I`d like to try out some other roms... I think from what I`ve read, that I need to downgrade back to Cingular`s rom for it? I`d also like to experience the performance of some other radio versions but... I haven`t quite figured out what the difference is between the OS Rom and the radio version yet, let alone how to upgrade the radio independently of the OS rom.
So in short... what are some very good threads with knowledge that can thoroughly acquaint someone who knows nothing about pocketpc`s?
(and sorry for the book)
I would start here: Wizard Wiki Pages
Then, I'd find out if I had a G3 or a G4 phone (read the Wiki), and start combing the G4 board, or the Wizard Mobile 6 board, depending on hardware. Pay special attention to any thread that has been made "Sticky" as those are usually full of VERY good information and/or critical hacks that should be considered when modifying your Wizard.
Some freeware sites that I find incredibly useful:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php
http://www.pdagold.com/software/list.asp?s=&p=1&frm_Submit=OK
http://www.freewareppc.com/
http://www.freecabs.de/
Three things to watch out for with a Wizard:
Don't kill your battery. If drained below 5%, the battery cannot be charged on USB, but can usually be recovered with a wall charger. Drain it below 5% and it may need to be jump-started. Search these boards for the fix.
Mini SD capacity is 2GB for this device, because the Wizard can only read single layer SD cards. If you are lucky enough to find a single-layer mini SD higher than 2GB, be sure to post about it!
In spite of what you read, most "bricked" phones are recoverable. Do due diligence in searching the threads for information...you'll usually find a solution here.
I second what he said. Reading is the most important part. It'll seem overwhelming at first but you will learn a lot. The search function is very useful as well as a Google search, most of what you will find will send you right back to xda or to someone quoting xda.
Hi all,
Firstly apologies for the long post, and thanks for all the info that is up here... however I have managed to get quite lost. I'll try to take you though the whole story as much as I understand it, but I woke up this morning and decided (after 8 months) to finally root my android.
That was 8am, it is now midnight, and I've had sandwiches while working at it, all day. It has been in various stages of bricked, and I think I might have just sent it back that way - should not be playing with it when tired.
Things I have
1 x UK Vodafone HTC Magic, doing return plus power = 32B, HBOOT-1.33.0009 (another story here).
1x 16GB SD-HC card
1x 1gb Card
1x cheap nokia I can use as a reader for the 1gig card, but it can't handle SD-HC
Anyway I started off with the 1 click root idea, which obviously doesn't work these days, so followed the next link, then the next, finding I need to do the 'goldcard' method.
theunlockr.com/2009/08/14/how-to-root-your-mytouch-3g/comment-page-3/
Anyway I'm not sure where all the time has gone (16 hours now), but I have learnt what an SPL was, flashed mine to an ‘imperfect’ one, managed to flash it to deteethed google, then cyanogen on top, but it would never boot, and just hangs saying HTC Magic, then managed to flash it using 'myhero' which gave me a Hero like phone.
However I now seem to have messed it up again as I'm determined to do the cyanogen mod - I really want to be able to tether, and lots of other bits and pieces.
The state at the moment therefore is I have it all working with fastboot, and can easily get the Amon_RA recovery image going, but the cm_recovery one makes it hang and do nothing. If I try and replace the recovery section using fastboot it tells me it has failed (I forget the exact message).
I can therefore upgrade things using the Amon_RA backup, but as I said things don't seem to entirely work, and at the moment my phone is hanging (I think as I'm tired I've overwritten my backup). I'm also not sure if this goldcard method is working – I asked a question in the thread and it seems that it might not be.
I guess I'm just looking for a few pointers, after 16 hours sat here I'm generally pretty frustrated and totally lost - there is a lot of information, but there are so many permutations of hardware, and a lot of the information is now out of date. Trying to take everything in as well as deal with a specific problem may actually be beyond me Which is something I hate- being the newbie needing help with a potentially simple problem (though I have had a good go at it).
I'm really not sure what stage the phone is at, have I rooted it? After all I can use the myhero rom, but on the other hand I can't do what I want to do, so therefore is there a problem? Exactly which step makes it ‘rooted?’ as every guide is obviously a chain of events to make it in to something else. I'm honestly not sure, but it isn't a fun feeling – I’m stressed and at the momentI have no phone just a brick that I can fastboot to recovery, and a bunch of backups as soon as I get it working again.
I really had no idea it would be this difficult, and am a big angry at Google/HTC for making it so - it is easier to get Hackintosh working than this! I’ve also managed to do hundreds of other similar things without any problem – Xbox Media Center (including soldering), and a few more spring to mind, all to use the hardware I already own! My hardware!
Anyway advice and pointers are appreciated, as although I've learnt a lot today, I'm still blundering about, and it is a matter of time until I cause serious damage in my attempts to make it better, al alternatively just throw in the towel, but then I don’t think I can go back as I have a horrible feeling that the restore I did didn’t work.
Again anything you can offer is appreciated, and if you need more detail, I’ll do what I can!
Anthony
Also just to add I've tried searching, which is partially how I've got myself in to this mess - solve one problem but make another!
Also I do have my APN settings, so when I get it installed, I can get my google account workign with it - I think i've had to do this about 6 times now! So if there is a way to get it in to 'myhero' which I think I can do again, and download an apk, then I should be able to do that.
Ant
There is a lot of information and everyone is recommended to do their research before rooting the phone.
That being said, it sounds like your phone is rooted if you can boot into recovery and load up a sense ROM. It'd been much easier to follow cyanogen's wiki instructions for non T-mobile 32B Magics. I also have a vodafone Magic and I rooted my phone successfully using the method.
Not having used the goldcard method, I don't exactly know where it went wrong. Have you done full wipes before applying a zip file? Stuff like that which might be easily overlooked?
Yeha I've been wiping it all before flashing, so that isn't the problem.
I also did as much reading as I could before starting (and watching the youtube guides before doing anything), but I guess a lot of the problems were unexpected (aren't they always?), for example I only found out half way through that I would need to flash the SPL, and it took me 40 minutes to figure out what SPL was, and what it did, then another 40 to work out how I was going to do it, then 40 to do so.
I have been following guides though - for the cyanogen one I get all the way down to flashing it with the detoothed google build, then cyanogen (obviously wiping before doing these). All the steps appear successful but then it doesn't boot.
The phone is also a rather strange one, a vodafone branded one that says 32B, but I'm sure it has more RAM.
Currently trying 'method 2' from here
android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting
to see if that works, but I'm not optimistic.
Yup 15 minutes laters same problem - it hangs on HTC magic screen, which is exactly what it does when I go for the Cyanogen one.
I'll goign to try and google for other roms, see if any of them work sucessfully (and might provide a bridghe to what I want to have.
Again however anybody knows good guides, sites or anythign else let me know.
As I said a big problem before is I'm reliant heavily on google, and a lot of the informaion out there is useless, as it is out of date in a big way. Also I don't know anyoen else who has doen this, so recommendations ofmethods/roms are dependent on my reading, not wword of mouth (which is generally better).
Ok I've tried the method 2, defiantely no sucess, went back to the myhero (which performs awfully, so much lag!), and have now tried flaskrec.apk on there.
It does not backup, but then bypassing that step, it gives me the error 'Flash failed'.
Really stuck now, and no idea what to try, any suggestions at all would be helpful. I'm almost at the stage of wishing I'd got an iphone :-(
Teenage son swam with his one month old LG G2. Ouch.
Used reviveaphone liquid as only 12 quid and worth a try. I'm amazed but it actually seems to have worked, except I think in water shorting the phone we've lost the root because on the firmware update screen I get a message "920K 8100 Unrooted" appearing in a rectangular box at bottom of screen.
I'm a little computer savvy but know nothing about mobile roots. I imagine this is the built in Rom that fires everything up which has got corrupted by the water. I realise I might be wasting my time and it may be fried but being only one month old I want to give it a good try before binning it.
I don't want any hacked rom or anything complicated just want original rom restored if possible?
I expect there's a sticky that someone can link me to? I'm not completely sure which model I have but the back is off and maybe there's some identifier in there?
Sorry to sound terribly dim! Any help most gratefully received!
If you do reply can you please bear in mind I know none of the technical terms! Thanks
Okay, so the device is working? Does it boot into a workable mode or are you only getting that box with unrooted text? That doubts like you're in download mode.
Without knowing which variant you have, this is going to be tough. Start with this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2705259
That should link you to everything you need to know to get back to stock rom.
This link will take you to a thread which will use a program on Windows to get back to stock rom as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476
First of all, hello everyone since this is my first post and thread on this forum. And thanks for all the help I had found in the past. And sorry if my English would not be understandable sometimes
So I bought this fake Galaxy S5 in China (Silk Street in Beijing) - I did it on purpose, knowing from the beginning that I'm buying a fake. Didn't expect anything big from this phone, but after a few days of using it, I'm very surprised by its good quality. It has some chinese features though, and the rom is not fully translated into Polish - sometimes mixed English/Polish, but I don't mind. Ant the battery is certainly a poor quality fake, because it discharges in a few hours of normal using (or not using at all) - maybe something in the chinese rom is draining it? Definitely I will buy an original one.
And! The most intriguing thing is, that the device keeps changing its MAC address. I know it's hardly possible, but I checked it precisely - MAC changed at least 3 times after complete discharging or forced reboot.
I was worried about flashing some 'real' rom into it, not knowing if the hardware would handle it, but I ran the CPU-Z and this is what I got:
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Can I consider this phone as almost original S5? Only the CPU is somewhat different, but the RAM is the same as in the original, even the screen is FullHD, which surprised me the most. And if yes, is there any suitable custom (or original) rom for me? What should I even think of this phone? Only thing I know that I made a good deal - it was like $130
Thanks in advance for your help!
First, don't trust the results that you appear to have in hand. CPUZ is a fine utility but many fakes go out of their way to feed spurious information into the app. There are already a few hints in your results that they are spurious. Before you trust those results, vet them against several other apps e.g. Samsung Info and a full benchmark suite.
One important clue is whether you can enter a standard download mode. Pull the battery and then use the volume down + home + power sequence to see if you get a download mode and if has any irregularities.
As to your original question, almost certainly no. Trying to write an original firmware to your known fake is likely to brick it. Perhaps irretrievably. You need to identify who made the fake and search out the proper utility to write firmware to the device. if you do a search of this forum or my post history you'll find the name of a forum that specializes in fakes and likely can aid you.
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Do you still have that phone?
Lately I found a very powerful settings control tool for our watches - be aware, it is designed just for few of us who secretly want to get till the deepest guts of our "toys", if you feel pointed then you know for sure that before to use it have to do a full readback of your original firmware 'cause you know for sure that our "wild" behavior could conduct at any moment to the most hated phenomenon - bricking ya watch
I hope that, here, all together, safely experimenting, to discover secrets, methods, new best settings for our gadget
I assume that you have already installed mtk drivers and did a full firmware and primary settings zone backup
Some steps:
1. Get the archive from here - link - and unzip it
2. install mtk drivers
3. Install the app itself in the most normal way
4. Launch it and press reconnect
5. Shut down your watch and connect it
6. Ready!
Now is your turn!
Use your money wisely, DO NOT WASTE IT buying from GEARBEST!
- worst shipping ever (10 days in case you're lucky)
- most products are defective (this is referring just to smartwatches and watch phones - can't say anything about other products)
- in case of complain (ticket) the answers are standard corporation statements - they are not fixing any issue - just will waste your time, week after week for months - for instance, in my case started in august 2015 and finished in april 2016
- if you are continuing to complain, trying to obtain your money back or a new item - your mistake, they will switch off in your account the capacity of opening tickets (disputes), they will wipe out your account of any points, credits or previous tickets
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First! !! Awesome I am still having some difficulty with doing the back up and changing the faces etc. I will keep reading. I want this
jayshocka said:
First! !! Awesome I am still having some difficulty with doing the back up and changing the faces etc. I will keep reading. I want this
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Man, imagine that, we could create a real (actually unreal) kinda MTK university in second life (I bet you know about it), real time advice service or topic discussion at a virtual coffe, classrooms and all s. . .t, everything in a full 3D world everything full linked with XDA, what do you think about this?
Sounds scary
jayshocka said:
Sounds scary
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Sounds scary in the good way or in the bad way things are in fact very simple and the interactivity could increase (now depends on people. . . of course)
Scary as in virtual world and computer taking over my life I wish I had the time to get that involved. Job kids and school = 17 hour day
To whom it may concern, I have released a new version of Readback Extractor, now much more faster
Update Mar-12/2016: as long as on the market appeared a long line of new types of mtk6260 mtk6261 mtk2502C mtk2502A (etc) watches equipped with strange new PCB or flash_ID parameters, the new release <Readback Extractor mtk 2.0> now has the capacity to identify, to read, check, rebuilt firmware and collect and insert in the .cfg files the flash_ID's coded inside the ROM dump for almost all types of mtk watchphones or smartwatches based on RTOS Nucleus
Cant use messaging service on A9 smartwatch.... says 'Currently not available' !
It's correctly paired and have access to phonebook and make/receive calls but not messages.....
Can somebody shed some light in this matter please?
Many Thanks!
Please does anyone have the stock ROM file for apro q18 smart watch
I tried using this tool and now I think my watch is dead.. I plugged it in while it was powered off (It showed its loading screen). After I hit reconnect and turned it on and showed me an alert saying something like boot failed and now it's not responding at all.. it's just a black screen D:
dulce.ai.angel said:
I tried using this tool and now I think my watch is dead.. I plugged it in while it was powered off (It showed its loading screen). After I hit reconnect and turned it on and showed me an alert saying something like boot failed and now it's not responding at all.. it's just a black screen D:
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battery out battery back and everything will be fine
Use your money wisely, DO NOT WASTE IT buying from GEARBEST
Mtk250c touch screen problem
Golem_ said:
Lately I found a very powerful settings control tool for our watches - be aware, it is designed just for few of us who secretly want to get till the deepest guts of our "toys", if you feel pointed then you know for sure that before to use it have to do a full readback of your original firmware 'cause you know for sure that our "wild" behavior could conduct at any moment to the most hated phenomenon - bricking ya watch
I hope that, here, all together, safely experimenting, to discover secrets, methods, new best settings for our gadget
I assume that you have already installed mtk drivers and did a full firmware and primary settings zone backup
Some steps:
1. Get the archive from here - link - and unzip it
2. install mtk drivers
3. Install the app itself in the most normal way
4. Launch it and press reconnect
5. Shut down your watch and connect it
6. Ready!
Now is your turn!
Use your money wisely, DO NOT WASTE IT buying from GEARBEST!
- worst shipping ever (10 days in case you're lucky)
- most products are defective (this is referring just to smartwatches and watch phones - can't say anything about other products)
- in case of complain (ticket) the answers are standard corporation statements - they are not fixing any issue - just will waste your time, week after week for months - for instance, in my case started in august 2015 and finished in april 2016
- if you are continuing to complain, trying to obtain your money back or a new item - your mistake, they will switch off in your account the capacity of opening tickets (disputes), they will wipe out your account of any points, credits or previous tickets
-
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I install a previous firmware that I had in my mtk2502c and now the device on, the buttons work but stopped working the touch screen. You think this program can help me something ?. it is as if the driver lost the touch screen, the firmware does not work reinstall the touch screen. unfortunately did not make a backup before upgrading.
Please your help, as I fix? appreciate your comment
Frojasolivares89 said:
I install a previous firmware that I had in my mtk2502c and now the device on, the buttons work but stopped working the touch screen. You think this program can help me something ?. it is as if the driver lost the touch screen, the firmware does not work reinstall the touch screen. unfortunately did not make a backup before upgrading.
Please your help, as I fix? appreciate your comment
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did you ever try a full format in flash tool? your watch has a touch issue for every version of IWO?
Use your money wisely, DO NOT WASTE IT buying from GEARBEST
Golem_ said:
did you ever try a full format in flash tool? your watch has a touch issue for every version of IWO?
Use your money wisely, DO NOT WASTE IT buying from GEARBEST
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i format of 3 forms that gives me flashtools , also install all firmwares that appear to download and nothing, even i format everyone from the oldest to the newest consecutively without turning it on, then was the same, it seems very strange
Frojasolivares89 said:
i format of 3 forms that gives me flashtools , also install all firmwares that appear to download and nothing, even i format everyone from the oldest to the newest consecutively without turning it on, then was the same, it seems very strange
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There is nothing wrong with the firmwares, I did myself tens of flashings, anything I share is tested by me and hundreds of users here and other forums - I'm afraid that is very possible a hardware issue. . .
last check - make sure that options / backup and restore is set on no action
Use your money wisely, DO NOT WASTE IT buying from GEARBEST
Golem_ said:
There is nothing wrong with the firmwares, I did myself tens of flashings, anything I share is tested by me and hundreds of users here and other forums - I'm afraid that is very possible a hardware issue. . .
last check - make sure that options / backup and restore is set on no action
Use your money wisely, DO NOT WASTE IT buying from GEARBEST
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ok, i going to try, many thanks
Below is from My watch which firmware would go with mine? i tried lot of em but failed
[Version]
BaseBand chip version=MT6261
ECO version=
DSP firmware version=2000.00.00
DSP patch version=1.0
Software version=NX9_61D_240_V2_1_G08S_SANSUNG_32_T3_L3_C4_G4_B_IPS_160509
Hardware version=HW2.1
Melody version=Unknown
Muzain said:
Below is from My watch which firmware would go with mine? i tried lot of em but failed
[Version]
BaseBand chip version=MT6261
ECO version=
DSP firmware version=2000.00.00
DSP patch version=1.0
Software version=NX9_61D_240_V2_1_G08S_SANSUNG_32_T3_L3_C4_G4_B_IPS_160509
Hardware version=HW2.1
Melody version=Unknown
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you have a gt08S, actually a clone - I wouldn't bother to change something
Golem_ said:
you have a gt08S, actually a clone - I wouldn't bother to change something
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You mean it's a fake crap? ...?