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Testing Firefox OS in Xperia SP

So, this is a great new !!
http://fxpblog.co/firefoxos/testing-firefox-os-on-sony-xperia-sp/

I had one question always.
Can we xsp users multi boot?

great ! firefox on sp wow

No, it's a side project so it doesn't get much time. Release won't be for several weeks. The issues are not only on the side of device porting but also on the side of Mozilla. It is still under active development, unlike Android which is only released when it is complete.

Yeah, but of we get Ubuntu, it'd better right? But alas, no dev to port it for xsp. Same is for Firefox. As @Levered said it'll take a lot of time to get updates from the op if it gets ported

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No, it's a side project so it doesn't get much time. Release won't be for several weeks. The issues are not only on the side of device porting but also on the side of Mozilla. It is still under active development, unlike Android which is only released when it is complete.
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but it will get much attention by many devs and also Adam Farden will complete it , ya ya it may take several week or months.... but we can expect a new OS for our SP.
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Yeah, but of we get Ubuntu, it'd better right? But alas, no dev to port it for xsp. Same is for Firefox. As @Levered said it'll take a lot of time to get updates from the op if it gets ported
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Oh man
This is getting awesome!! I just want to try Ubuntu os but I'm a noob[emoji53]. So I'll rather wait and not make any threads for request.
And thanks man. You are awesome too for giving us hopes for a different os[emoji6]

pranavthombare said:
Oh man
This is getting awesome!! I just want to try Ubuntu os but I'm a noob[emoji53]. So I'll rather wait and not make any threads for request.
And thanks man. You are awesome too for giving us hopes for a different os[emoji6]
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I've talked to Adam Farden over this and he said its going to be released pretty soon , so stay tuned

Do you have any idea about eta? I know I shouldn't ask but still, a rough idea?

It seems nice
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Do you have any idea about eta? I know I shouldn't ask but still, a rough idea?
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ETA depends on Adam as he is setting up a auto build server i heard... , all features should be working already , just awaiting release...

pranavthombare said:
I had one question always.
Can we xsp users multi boot?
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No!
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Waiting for the firefox os for sp eagerly. Hope to see it can bring a totally new user experience to sp users
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Im waiting too.. Its very good to see Firefox os working on my sp..I'd like to see Ubuntu os too..
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No new news?
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I'm curious, what are you guys 'eager' to see this?
The reason for no release is due to camera. From what I can tell the camera blobs depend on some Android specific parts which will never be part of FxOS (of course).
Unless this is solved then I will probably not release this for Xperia SP as nobody will use it without a functioning camera.
I'm considering getting Xperia E1 to continue this project as this hardware is better supported in FxOS and it also looks like the camera blobs do not have this limitation.

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I'm curious, what are you guys 'eager' to see this?
The reason for no release is due to camera. From what I can tell the camera blobs depend on some Android specific parts which will never be part of FxOS (of course).
Unless this is solved then I will probably not release this for Xperia SP as nobody will use it without a functioning camera.
I'm considering getting Xperia E1 to continue this project as this hardware is better supported in FxOS and it also looks like the camera blobs do not have this limitation.
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You caused it lol by posting this and showing a video everyone got all excited also you could just release non working build like many devs do with their custom ROMs: on some phones the phone might never have working wi-fi on custom ROMs (desire c fixed after about a year of tinkering) or if you check out the HTC one x custom ROMs they have a lot of stuff broken too!
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noahvt said:
... you could just release non working build like many devs do with their custom ROMs ...
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No way, missing camera (and bluetooth) are missing features too big to warrant a release.
Besides, would anyone really permanently switch from Android to FxOS on Xperia SP if I fixed these two issues and released it? I'd bet money on it that people would use it for a couple of hours maximum, then realize they need the Google services that push all notifications to the phone.
(FxOS doesn't have push notifications for most things, pretty much everything has to be reloaded / refreshed manually, even syncing contact data.)

tested on older device..
I have already tested Firefox OS on my older Xperia E Dual device.. it kinda sucked.. I didn't like the way it felt and it was laggy and super slow.. maybe it is better here in XSP

Rogers Lollipop 5.1.1 Update "Coming Soon"

Rogers has updated their rollout schedule to state 5.1.1 is coming soon, previously it was simply June.
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Follow me @ootpapps for more timely Android updated for the S6!

Coming soon sounds worse than a definite month like June.

No, they set it to coming soon when it's near approach date. This happened with the Nexus 5 update.
Coming soon means within days or a couple weeks at most, it's their lowest date range.

autom8r said:
No, they set it to coming soon when it's near approach date. This happened with the Nexus 5 update.
Coming soon means within days or a couple weeks at most, it's their lowest date range.
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Why did Rogers have anything to do with a Nexus update?

Seriously? They issue the update to customers with Nexus 5's. I'm referring to Rogers update schedule... It was the same case with the Nexus 5 update from Rogers, it was previously a month, then it said coming soon...

Nice! Cant w8 (hehe, name of our model)

Elisha said:
Coming soon sounds worse than a definite month like June.
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Coming soon = Coming late

How long before this phone is stuck with some horribly out-of-date version of Android? You know there's a problem Microsoft is beating you on updates.

creaturemachine said:
How long before this phone is stuck with some horribly out-of-date version of Android? You know there's a problem Microsoft is beating you on updates.
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If you're asking this question seriously, I would say probably right around when the S8 rolls out. The S4 got 5.0.1 a few days after the S6 was released - so it seems like we get about 2 years of update coverage. That seems pretty reasonable to me for a two year old flagship (or more than reasonable, given that I last about 6 months per phone).

looking forward to it , i just hope pinpong root will be supposed

does the Rogers S6 have the ram management issue as well?

oxxshadow said:
does the Rogers S6 have the ram management issue as well?
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Yes

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Yes
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How do you know that?
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Orginator said:
How do you know that?
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All galaxy s6 models have the ram management issue. Search around there's plenty of threads on the topic

thatsupnow said:
All galaxy s6 models have the ram management issue. Search around there's plenty of threads on the topic
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I think they may mean whether or not the new ROM has it... I don't think Rogers does anything but add their bloat to the ROM, so, chances are it's got the bug.

autom8r said:
I think they may mean whether or not the new ROM has it... I don't think Rogers does anything but add their bloat to the ROM, so, chances are it's got the bug.
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Would you think its still worth getting an S6 even with this flaw? I have an upgrade on Rogers, and the S6 seems like the best option. However, I feel this bug may drive me crazy.

Seems like the international variant 920F and T-Mobile 920T had their updates.... still waiting for the canadian variant!!!!

oxxshadow said:
Would you think its still worth getting an S6 even with this flaw? I have an upgrade on Rogers, and the S6 seems like the best option. However, I feel this bug may drive me crazy.
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I honestly don't understand all the rage over this. I don't have an issue with the memory management, however I don't flip between apps like a spaz or fret over five different memory managers like some people seem to do.

creaturemachine said:
I honestly don't understand all the rage over this. I don't have an issue with the memory management, however I don't flip between apps like a spaz or fret over five different memory managers like some people seem to do.
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The issue is that the S6 has to keep reloading apps, Say you open a webpage on chrome, then exit to another app. switching back to chrome will reload the page, when the page was supposed to be stored in memory.
The problem is that for a premium device which costs 600+, there should be flaws like this.

Washed out colors.

Wondering what everyone is doing about this bug since the latest 6.0 update? Wait for a fix or are you reverting back to an earlier OS? I know google is aware of the problem but who knows when they will get at this.

Im wondering this as well.
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Wondering what everyone is doing about this bug since the latest 6.0 update? Wait for a fix or are you reverting back to an earlier OS? I know google is aware of the problem but who knows when they will get at this.
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i was looking to set up my new nexus player today and was wondering about this. It seems most of the ROM's are now 6.0 and i dont know if they fixed the issue or not. Trying to look for some 5.1 ROM's just in case.

naruto.ninjakid said:
i was looking to set up my new nexus player today and was wondering about this. It seems most of the ROM's are now 6.0 and i dont know if they fixed the issue or not. Trying to look for some 5.1 ROM's just in case.
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The strange thing about this issue is that when watching something with Kodi the colors are fine.

sask3m said:
The strange thing about this issue is that when watching something with Kodi the colors are fine.
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Yeah my device came from Best buy and it was on 5.0. So I haven't seen the bug yet looking to flash cm 12.1 tonight and compare with pure nexus. Unlocked the device yesterday in fastboot.
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Google says it found the bug. I'm waiting them to release the fix anytime now.

foxbat121 said:
Google says it found the bug. I'm waiting them to release the fix anytime now.
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This bug is still there since september, when MM came out...
I went to 5.1.1 now and I wait some miracles for christmas

Only recently, Google acknowledged the bug and the fix is on the way (just don't know when, probably early 2016). https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=188667
Too bad there is no way to stop the auto-update to 6.0/6.0.1 unless you are rooted and mod some settings. I don't have any desire to root my NP players. So, the only thing I can do so far is wait.

foxbat121 said:
Only recently, Google acknowledged the bug and the fix is on the way (just don't know when, probably early 2016). https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=188667
Too bad there is no way to stop the auto-update to 6.0/6.0.1 unless you are rooted and mod some settings. I don't have any desire to root my NP players. So, the only thing I can do so far is wait.
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Maybe next time the people who make the updates should actually try using the device before sending the updates.

sask3m said:
Maybe next time the people who make the updates should actually try using the device before sending the updates.
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Given the spread of the problem (affects NP, Nexus 5X and 6P), it tells me that those work at Google didn't do their job. Hence I lost my trust on them about the future on the Android TV if they can't get the basics right.

foxbat121 said:
Given the spread of the problem (affects NP, Nexus 5X and 6P), it tells me that those work at Google didn't do their job. Hence I lost my trust on them about the future on the Android TV if they can't get the basics right.
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check this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64445344&postcount=243

This update/fix takes forever to be released and it's been a known problem for several months now.

The fix is finally in. Just flashed the newest factory image and tested it out on Youtube and Google Play Movies. Better late than never I guess.

Hwaiting said:
The fix is finally in. Just flashed the newest factory image and tested it out on Youtube and Google Play Movies. Better late than never I guess.
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I see two 6.01 updates is it one of those? I'm already at 6.01 but don't see an update when I checked the update on my NP.

sask3m said:
I see two 6.01 updates is it one of those? I'm already at 6.01 but don't see an update when I checked the update on my NP.
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It's build MMB29T. It will show a January 1, 2016 security patch level date once installed. I couldn't bother waiting for the OTA update myself so I just flashed the stock factory image instead.
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Hwaiting said:
It's build MMB29T. It will show a January 1, 2016 security patch level date once installed. I couldn't bother waiting for the OTA update myself so I just flashed the stock factory image instead.
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I had read it was just a security patch.

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I had read it was just a security patch.
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Google mentioned that they had fixed it on their end and would include it in the next patch and I can confirm they indeed included a fix thank goodness.
I was almost half expecting that they would fix this but then break something else...so far so good though. Tried videos via Youtube, Google Play Movies, and Kodi. Blacks are black again. I was about ready to give up on the NP and look for alternatives.

Hwaiting said:
Google mentioned that they had fixed it on their end and would include it in the next patch and I can confirm they indeed included a fix thank goodness.
I was almost half expecting that they would fix this but then break something else...so far so good though. Tried videos via Youtube, Google Play Movies, and Kodi. Blacks are black again. I was about ready to give up on the NP and look for alternatives.
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I never had a problem with videos played through Kodi before, Netflix on the other hand is terrible.

People that have flashed the new firmware: Does cast work now?

carbanm said:
People that have flashed the new firmware: Does cast work now?
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Cast always worked for me (my casting though was mainly limited to YouTube, Chrome browser and UFC). Is there an app specially you are referring to?
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Mm finally made it to to testing

Checked tmobile update page this morning.. finally changed to testing at tmobile

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Liar
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Sorry git's I am so not sure what I was looking at I guess I should make sure I am awale before opening my mouth

Know whats funny? The Note 5 is getting MM, but its status still shows manufacturer development.
But hey, maybe, just maybe, we'll be next? Though I'll probably wait anyway....See what sort of bugs are present and whatnot.

MrPandroid said:
Though I'll probably wait anyway.
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No. It's your DUTY as a member of this forum to ODIN flash and pre-test ALL beta-leaks that are made available.

Yes, sir! xD
I wish there WAS a leak of the firmware lol I'd gladly test it and report what I could find.

MrPandroid said:
Know whats funny? The Note 5 is getting MM, but its status still shows manufacturer development.
But hey, maybe, just maybe, we'll be next? Though I'll probably wait anyway....See what sort of bugs are present and whatnot.
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Actually the only ones it shows NOT in testing and still in Developement are the Note 4, Note Edge and tab 2. All others are complete or in testing.

Within the NEXT 2 WEEKS MM goodies will be delivered.
{This is a guess on my part and in no way implies I have a inside source named Frank who tells me all this stuff a month or two in advance. Frank did NOT tell me last month that first the Sixes would see the update followed closely by the N6 with about a 2 week break then N4. He also didn't tell be the the Note 6 has 6 GB of RAM. This is all just figments of my imagination.}

macasus76 said:
Actually the only ones it shows NOT in testing and still in Developement are the Note 4, Note Edge and tab 2. All others are complete or in testing.
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This ^^. However, the Note 5 and S6 edge + jumped from manufacturer development to complete and skipped the testing announcement in the T mobile support site.

neofreek01 said:
Sorry git's I am so not sure what I was looking at I guess I should make sure I am awale before opening my mouth
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Don't worry I did the same thing last week when I checked also.

dkb218 said:
Within the NEXT 2 WEEKS MM goodies will be delivered.
{This is a guess on my part and in no way implies I have a inside source named Frank who tells me all this stuff a month or two in advance. Frank did NOT tell me last month that first the Sixes would see the update followed closely by the N6 with about a 2 week break then N4. He also didn't tell be the the Note 6 has 6 GB of RAM. This is all just figments of my imagination.}
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Well then lets just hope this "Frank" fella is as wise as you say he is.

umm, that picture says manufacturer development not testing.

wpcprez said:
umm, that picture says manufacturer development not testing.
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Lol this was established on the second post.
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macasus76 said:
Lol this was established on the second post.
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oh, the first post was so small i thought it was part of the second post and didn't see the liar part. tnx

Does anyone know if with a fast wireless charging pad, if fast wireless charging would work with this phone?

:good: for the genius who designed the website. I've seen the same confusion in other forums for other devices.

Mr. Clown said:
This ^^. However, the Note 5 and S6 edge + jumped from manufacturer development to complete and skipped the testing announcement in the T mobile support site.
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I think we can all agree that Samsung skips the testing phase and just pushes out whatever they developed, bugs and all.
Actually it was worse with my nexus. Official builds were basically Beta until CM or other device cleaned them up.
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i really don't know if i can wait. that htc 10 is looking mighty good to me

^^^ I'm not seeing the "real benefits" spec-wise.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=7884&idPhone2=6434

Stock nougat ota

Hello,
I wanted to ask if someone is on stock MM who has got the nougat ota.
I'm from belgium, and I don't want to revert to stock to see if the ota is available.
Since I would lose all my apps and configs.
Thnx for you help

According to Twitter from Motorola Germamy, moto X style wont get nugat this year. Propably its gonna be February 2017.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Moto_GER/status/806125038042808321
Tapatapatap Moto X Style

gemtin92 said:
According to Twitter from Motorola Germamy, moto X style wont get nugat this year. Propably its gonna be February 2017.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Moto_GER/status/806125038042808321
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Thnx for your reply.
So mad they don't update that quick as stated on the internet.
This will be my last phone from that company.

milowke said:
Thnx for your reply.
So mad they don't update that quick as stated on the internet.
This will be my last phone from that company.
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I hope you are planning on getting a Pixel then, since this is normal update speed for just about every device manufacturer. At least they got the Z updated, Samsung's flagships are still waiting (with exception of the S7 Nougat beta).
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Timing is all speculation of course, in the tweet that @gemtin92 mentioned, if you scroll down you'll notice that Moto_Support chimes in to say:
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@rjtgupta84 Hi,we don't provide release dates, but when it's ready we'll roll it out to all eligible devices as quickly as possible. Thanks!
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Which is the typical response.

Why this need for the update? Nougat is not yet stable on any devices (except a couple of flagships that cost 2-3x more). MM still works perfect, does everything.

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Why this need for the update? Nougat is not yet stable on any devices (except a couple of flagships that cost 2-3x more). MM still works perfect, does everything.
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Why this need for the update? Nougat is not yet stable on any devices (except a couple of flagships that cost 2-3x more). MM still works perfect, does everything.
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Well you cannot deny that Nougat improves the user experience, in particular quick toggles and separation of notifications from the same app. If Lenovo can issue a stable Nougat the sooner the better!

" Quick toggles and separation of notifications from the same app"? I prefer a stable and usable phone than one with gimmicks that I will never use but with issues in stability.

Quick toggles? Luke what we used to have in previous Android builds? Use xposed and Android n-ify.
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Well you cannot deny that Nougat improves the user experience, in particular quick toggles and separation of notifications from the same app. If Lenovo can issue a stable Nougat the sooner the better!
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" Quick toggles and separation of notifications from the same app"? I prefer a stable and usable phone than one with gimmicks that I will never use but with issues in stability.
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Don't forget Xposed - unless xposed comes to Nougat I won't be updating

http://m.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x_play_running_android_71_nougat_spotted_on_gfxbench-news
What??????
X Play skips 7.0 and will get 7.1.1
X style also might have same plan then....

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http://m.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x_play_running_android_71_nougat_spotted_on_gfxbench-news
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X Play skips 7.0 and will get 7.1.1
X style also might have same plan then....
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http://www.theandroidsoul.com/moto-x-play-android-7-1-1-update-release/

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http://m.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x_play_running_android_71_nougat_spotted_on_gfxbench-news
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X Play skips 7.0 and will get 7.1.1
X style also might have same plan then....
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That would be great. Kind of frustrating that you hear news about every Moto device except the Pure/Style...
Hopefully that really is Motorola's Android build and not AICP or CM...

Makes the wait all the more worthwhile IF they jump us up to 7.1.1

Knowing that the 7.1 or 7.1.1 might not be rootable... I would say that the hype about Nougat is just that - hype.

I've been playing with the 7.1.1 roms out there for the device and can say I like it. Just a thought, and would be fine with me if true. But isn't google saying it'll make assistant available to other devices after some amount of time? Now it would be very cool if the update had all that working on release. I understand the argument for MM roms being capable of it now with exposed, but wouldn't it be nice if we didn't have to go through hoops every-time we want to use something? Not even going to get into the security updates and the stated update policy being one of the reasons why I got the pure as opposed to other phones available at the time

sooyong94 said:
Don't forget Xposed - unless xposed comes to Nougat I won't be updating
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What xposed modules do you recommend for the Moto X?

sooyong94 said:
Don't forget Xposed - unless xposed comes to Nougat I won't be updating
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SteveHebe said:
What xposed modules do you recommend for the Moto X?
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None... Xposed is dying. The developers have said it will die, it's just a matter of when. It may come to Nougat or may not, as security in Android gets tighter and tighter the possibility that Xposed will continue to work gets lower and lower. Remember last year around this time? The developers said Xposed wouldn't work on Marshmallow, and most of the team had given up and called it dead when a fluke breakthrough happened and they were able to make it work, but there is no guarantee it will happen again.
What's the point anyway, why the love of Xposed, just use a custom ROM w/o Xposed or stay pure stock.

Yesterday, i saw system upgrade notify.
I was thinking "Nougat upgrade"
But .... only update patch security Sep =))

antuong12c2 said:
Yesterday, i saw system upgrade notify.
I was thinking "Nougat upgrade"
But .... only update patch security Sep =))
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Where are you from? Any sign of VoLTE with this update?