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This is the unofficial thread to find the list of developers for the Samsung Galaxy Note II.
If you are a developer and or ROM maker/cooker would like to confirm that you are going to dev on this device please send me a pm, and I will add you to the list. In past experiences these types of threads have shown to be very helpful to build dev support for a device, and also to help people decide on a device.
What, actually is the list for?
Basically its for people and devs to see all the dev support the device will have. This sometimes is the deciding factor for getting a phone. If there's huge dev support more people will come. This makes it easier for people to find information on what devs will be supporting the note 2.
To pm me and get added to the list Click Here.
Let's make this Galaxy Note II community awesome!
Confirmed Developers
1.Utacka
2.thering1975
3.DakiX
4.::indie::
5.m3dd0g
6.Crash 1976
7.g.lewarne
8.toxicthunder
9.awesomehacker
10.KashaMalaga
11.-Viperboy-
12.lennyuk
13.Dexter_nlb
14.DocRambone
15.imilka
16.f3w1n
17.kristofpetho
18.mike1986.
19.Stavr0s91i
20.wanam
21.xator91
22.Beukhof1
23.ptmr3
24.Anas M.I
25.cpu999
26.AndreiLux
27.Chainfire
28.Patrics83
29.Chenglu
30.bigbiff
Hi,
Thanks for starting this thread. I just want to ask "Do you think there be a lot of development for this phone?" Particularly for Note II, in general for future Samsung phones.
I just finished watching this video here or here and I just heard about some developers leaving Samsung altogether? Samsung locking bootloaders? Samsung getting too big for their own ego?
I currently own the Int'l N7000 and I found the development to be good for what I want. I didn't check out the i717 thread but I assume they are fair.
I'm not really experienced in rooting but I found Samsung Note to be fairly straight forward. I recently rooted an HTC Amaze 4G and the numerous steps plus the lack of info made me never to buy an HTC phone (even if I do like the HTC One X, my friend has the North American version and he said development is low there).
This is one reason why I'm holding out on the Note II until Feb 2013, maybe even Sept 2013 (in case Note 3) comes out because I want to see how the development plays out.
I know the phone just came out, but I assumed International Note development should be all hunky dory but I never know. Makes me not want to switch devices. I had an Int'l Galaxy S2 previously and development for that is great!
I hear Sony development is awesome. But then, I think I'll just go get a Nexus for ease of development (but the screen is so small!)
What do you guys think?
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Confirmed Developers
1.Utacka
2.thering1975
3.DakiX
4.::indie::
5........
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thanks leafsacc, I wasn't aware of this until now. I'm still not sure what's going on but I assumed there would be a way around a bootloader, as coders always find a way :highfive:
but reading the below, says it could have been verizon which was the cause of the bootloader, not samsung. so why is xdadevtv directing his video to samsung? is it because no open source was given for the s3? has it still not been released? will it be? anyone care to sum it up for some of us who aren't in the know? :>
Based on Samsung’s track record of always shipping devices with unlocked bootloaders, we can all safely deduce that Verizon is the one to blame here.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-unlocked/
For starters cm will not support n7100 if samsung dont change their ways. atleast the current dev team in cm will not support newer samsung exynos devices. i9300/n80xx was the last. Only way to get n7100 supported is if samsung cooperate or a new dev join cm dev team.
Without cm support i cannot do my paranoidandroid from source as I do with n7000. Time will tell if some new dev join cm samsung team or samsung get their act together. Dont look good though.
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For starters cm will not support n7100 if samsung dont change their ways. atleast the current dev team in cm will not support newer samsung exynos devices. i9300/n80xx was the last. Only way to get n7100 supported is if samsung cooperate or a new dev join cm dev team.
Without cm support i cannot do my paranoidandroid from source as I do with n7000. Time will tell if some new dev join cm samsung team or samsung get their act together. Dont look good though.
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Whoops not good news :crying: i need also sources...
Well I don't get it because it is sharing most of the hardware with S3 so the stuff should be at least ported easily.
Now I understand Samsung being a complete ass with their proprietary drivers
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jbounours said:
Well I don't get it because it is sharing most of the hardware with S3 so the stuff should be at least ported easily.
Now I understand Samsung being a complete ass with their proprietary drivers
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You still need one of the dev maintaining exynos devices to buy n7100 and then maintaining it... we can hope for someone to step up but its their freetime and money. Entropy512 told me he would be buying at&t version which is nearly identical if samsung would change their behavior. All we can do for now is to sit and wait...
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Hi guys, my ROM is finally finished and now uploaded at 89%.
I need a tester! My Note 2 has not arrived yet
Please write via PM.
You forgot chainfire..
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This is a great thread. I hope more chefs will chime in.
I am considering a Note II but it is absolutely vital that CM is developed for it, together with Paranoid Android. Especially since Key Lime Pie (CM11?) is be around the corner.
I also think it is important with AOSP/AOKP development for it.
So I hope the issue will be sorted during this month. If not, I am afraid that I have to consider a different game plan.
Buying a device without proper developer support is a no go for me.
For everyone woundering about my sources here is a statement from Entropy512:
Entropy512 said:
Not likely to happen. If CM comes to the Note 2, it will only be if a new maintainer steps up.
Most of the current Exynos maintainer team (myself, espenfjo, codeworkx) and others have all decided that our current devices will be our last non-Nexus Exynos devices. I'm not sure about xplodwild, but I have a feeling he's highly unlikely to take up another Haxxinos with the rest of us gone and given his prior experiences with it.
If Samsung changes their attitude towards developers, this might change, but their attitude lately (zero documentation, zero platform source code, a trend towards bootloader locking - Only the Verizon S3 has a locked bootloader now, but Samsung has had the infrastructure in place since the S2 and they are constantly adding more checks) has led to the current Exynos maintainer team deciding that enough is enough. I don't think any of us are going to do anything to make Samsung's Exynos devices more attractive to any particular market segment until they provide assistance (in the form of technical documentation and source code) in return. I don't know about the others, but if they offer me a free device I'll say no - I refuse to participate in a PR stunt like the I9100 donations were.
Pretty much the only way I'll go back is if I see reference platform source that is up to the same standards as CAF and omapzoom, or they actually start providing real documentation and source code for the devices I'm currently working with.
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Thanks entwicklun,
I Googled "verizon locked bootloader samsung galaxy note" and from what I understand that it was Verizon's request to lock the bootloader. Not sure what I would do if I was Samsung but my guess is, if it helps sell more phones on Verizon then lock the boot loader. Money talks, right?
But then I'm hearing news about Samsung not giving developers this and that, just like the example below.
jbounours said:
Well I don't get it because it is sharing most of the hardware with S3 so the stuff should be at least ported easily.
Now I understand Samsung being a complete ass with their proprietary drivers
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And I also need a phone that will have Paranoid Android (and the odd CM here and there), but it must also a 5" phablet. I guess there is nothing wrong with my current Note, but again by searching on Google there's a possibility that the "next big thing" might be the HTC Google Nexus X+. If that has an expansion card slot, that's it, I'm not getting the Note 2.
E90 Commie said:
This is a great thread. I hope more chefs will chime in.
I am considering a Note II but it is absolutely vital that CM is developed for it, together with Paranoid Android. Especially since Key Lime Pie (CM11?) is be around the corner.
I also think it is important with AOSP/AOKP development for it.
So I hope the issue will be sorted during this month. If not, I am afraid that I have to consider a different game plan.
Buying a device without proper developer support is a no go for me.
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Thanks for all the work the dev's put in. I'm just saying, my next phone is where the developers are. Samsung doesn't own us. :laugh:
I'll be here when I get my note2 in December
For those that don't know, TW ROM, aokp and multi booting kernel (or at least 2 sesperate kernels )
Myself and utaka could probably come up with a aosp supporting kernel for the device if official CM does not materialise.
Crash Rom will be here to
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cheers, I'm sure those browsing like me will know what's up now.
I've already ordered my note 2, but I would fully support the dev crew. even if that means selling my note 2 at a loss and buying what's being developed, pending though. I do like phablets and if the x+ doesn't have an exspansion slot then I probably wouldn't buy it.
I also hope aokp devs on the note 2. I certainly love their ROMS
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Samsung getting too big for their own ego?
I currently own the Int'l N7000 and I found the development to be good for what I want. But then, I think I'll just go get a Nexus for ease of development (but the screen is so small!)
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g.lewarne said:
I'll be here when I get my note2 in December
For those that don't know, TW ROM, aokp and multi booting kernel (or at least 2 sesperate kernels )
Myself and utaka could probably come up with a aosp supporting kernel for the device if official CM does not materialise.
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Are noobs like me allowed to jump in please?
Utacka sir is so kind to us all in his PA thread
Anyways, I think devving for this device would initially start with kanged TW based ROMs. With CM wary on supporting the device, it does seem a bit dark but hey, I am sure there are others to step up.
But then again, you can never be too sure.
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BTW, next nexus device is perhaps open to all OEMs.
Might be an Optimus from LG but from what I've read other manufactures are welcome to jump in and join the party.
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I am the same, an expansion card slot is a big plus.
development support is also a big factor.
I would flash aokp right now but i'm so scared of emmc bug (which I assume will not be in the Note 2 just like it did not exist in GB ROM Notes. But who knows if "Key Lime Pie/Kandy Kane" might have a similar brick bug) on ICS kangs that I just stay far, far, away.
My ultimate fav is CassiesXtraLite so it's good to see thering1975 on the list.
entwicklun said:
I do like phablets and if the x+ doesn't have an exspansion slot then I probably wouldn't buy it.
I also hope aokp devs on the note 2. I certainly love their ROMS
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I might bring VillainRom to the Note2, but only if/when we can get our OTA update/optional mods app up and running to a high enough standard.
Would be nice to know for wich model is going to work each developer.
- f3w1n -
Do all these new sensors and proprietary software (camera features, gesture features, etc) make it more difficult to develop customs ROMs for the gs4? Or will we just get ROMs that don't use all these new features and sensors
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take a look at i9300 sgs3 development section,
then come back here with your findings
If it's anything like the Note 2 you will loss any Samsung tweaks if you go with a non-touchwiz Rom. Even GPS and bluetooth is a little hairy on Aosp or cyanogenmod Roms. But each phone/team working on the Rom is different. I'm actually sticking with a custom touchwiz Rom because I need the reliability for a business trip this upcoming week.
And it will be extreme luck if the IR sensor works without Samsung's framework. The IR port is the one thing I've been dying for to make a come back. I would actually pay $20 for a fully programmable IR app that has the same functionality of one of those expensive Logitech models.
The development scene for Samsung phones has been huge and vibrant. Samsung is nice about keeping things unlocked and releasing source code, and while it may take time for AOSP/CM/AOKP ROM's to be fully functional and stable the S4 will have plenty of custom ROM's in its future.
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The development scene for Samsung phones has been huge and vibrant. Samsung is nice about keeping things unlocked and releasing source code, and while it may take time for AOSP/CM/AOKP ROM's to be fully functional and stable the S4 will have plenty of custom ROM's in its future.
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I have no doubt that the S4 will get AOSP/CM/AOKP roms but the OP question was about the sensors. You got temp sensor, IR sensor, hover with finger sensor, and some of the camera tweaks. I don't think those Roms will have the sensor fully functionals. That's the issue I have right now on my Note 2. I love the cleanness of a stock Android Rom but I miss it when a note automatically pops up when the s-pen is removed. And battery life on touchwiz Roms appear to be better. These are choices we're going to have to make.
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...I miss it when a note automatically pops up when the s-pen is removed...
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that entirely part of the launcher and TouchWiz apps rather than the ROM?
Piaband said:
Do all these new sensors and proprietary software (camera features, gesture features, etc) make it more difficult to develop customs ROMs for the gs4? Or will we just get ROMs that don't use all these new features and sensors
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I assure you it will be huge and vibrant, for now....
Wait 1 year later.
S3 & Note 2 users will now experience what S2 and Note users experienced for the past year. Total nightmare and hell.
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I have no doubt that the S4 will get AOSP/CM/AOKP roms but the OP question was about the sensors. You got temp sensor, IR sensor, hover with finger sensor, and some of the camera tweaks. I don't think those Roms will have the sensor fully functionals. That's the issue I have right now on my Note 2. I love the cleanness of a stock Android Rom but I miss it when a note automatically pops up when the s-pen is removed. And battery life on touchwiz Roms appear to be better. These are choices we're going to have to make.
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You hit the nail on the head my friend. I am looking to run stock android jelly bean on my next device.
I had a nexus s for my first android phone and I took it for granted how amazingly easy it was to flash not only roms but radios, kernels, basically anything. And I just love stock android.
I am now on an HTC rezound. While I do like it, I sorely miss stock android and flashing away at will. Already had quite a few flashing mishaps.
If I am forced to run touchwiz to use all these new features, then I'm not going to pay attention to the features when choosing my next device.
This wouldn't even be an issue if the LG nexus was released on Verizon.
Ugh, looks like I'm still waiting.
Rezound, s-off, loving it.
Livebyte said:
I assure you it will be huge and vibrant, for now....
Wait 1 year later.
S3 & Note 2 users will now experience what S2 and Note users experienced for the past year. Total nightmare and hell.
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Explain?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that entirely part of the launcher and TouchWiz apps rather than the ROM?
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Actually it depends on the feature.. Some of the features see baked into the framework apk others have individual apps... None of them are launcher dependent.. However all of these together make a ROM.. So I don't know you are referring to??
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Explain?
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He means all the devs will fly in droves to the new flagship device leaving the flagship devices of last year stranded..
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Piaband said:
Explain?
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Most experienced developers are leaving Samsung for manufacturers that don't treat them like **** (see the Superbrick fiasco), leaving only the "me-too" smali-hack-kangs and a very small number of experienced competent developers like Andrei.
Quality, not quantity - most of the stuff in the I9100 and I9300 forums is crap, people who took a Touchwizz base, themed it, made some build.prop hacks, and called it a whole new firmware package. They're lucky in that Touchwizz is so bad that it's easy to improve upon it.
Compare to, for example, the Xperia T where there are 5-10 or more developers all contributing as a team to something that only has two threads (One for CM10, one for CM10.1) There aren't many people working with Sony stock firmwares because, honestly, it's REALLY hard to improve upon them because they're so good to begin with. Most of the few things that can be improved are achievable with simple TiBu freezes, no smali hacking required.
I think it'll make AOSP (CM/AOKP) hard to develop but there super people! I'm sure they'll figure it out and help!
However Touchwiz ROM's could be pulled and edited! We won't lose any features/it won't be hard.
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I think it'll make AOSP (CM/AOKP) hard to develop but there super people! I'm sure they'll figure it out and help!
However Touchwiz ROM's could be pulled and edited! We won't lose any features/it won't be hard.
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Project Butter in Exynos 4210 devices (eg. Note & S2) is still broken until today and will never be solved.
A technically inferior Galaxy Nexus is superior to the Note. Take that for a change.
You have no idea how frustrated and angry are we people targeting Samsung in the Note & S2 forums.
I swore never to buy anymore Exynos devices after this fiasco.
Livebyte said:
Project Butter in Exynos 4210 devices (eg. Note & S2) is still broken until today and will never be solved.
A technically inferior Galaxy Nexus is superior to the Note. Take that for a change.
You have no idea how frustrated and angry are we people targeting Samsung in the Note & S2 forums.
I swore never to buy anymore Exynos devices after this fiasco.
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And the S3 community, count it in. We're fed up with all those broken promises too.
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Only for developers that want to wipe Samsung off the phone. Which I don't understand since most of the new hardware features require drivers Samsung rightfully will not release. For the longest time and to this day you could not get the FM radio to work on CM without buying a $10 Spirit radio app.
I'm sure there will be plenty of developers that will develop deoxed custom ROMs and great kernels with tweaks OCing etc. . Omega already to jump in. The only custom ROM's I've ever used were that of STOCK ROM development where features could be enhanced and drivers would not be a problem. CM always seems to have something missing or not working.
Why buy a Samsung device and then wipe it clean of all the great features? Just buy a Nexus 4
That said. I don't mind running an ASOP ROM on my Nexus 7 I will be glad to get rid of when Samsung releases the 6.5" Note 3.
For many a stock base is good enough with a custom launcher. This is a very very small community. I know at least 12 people with an S 3and 6 with Notes. None of them even want their phones rooted.
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The real question I have is.. If the UK and the US get the quad core processor, Which device would have more developers....Exynos or Snapdragon?
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Phoneguy589 said:
The real question I have is.. If the UK and the US get the quad core processor, Which device would have more developers....Exynos or Snapdragon?
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Snapdragon always gets more aosp... So i assume more serious devs that are still in board will get Qualcomm
trolol and awayyy!! Expect typos this is my phone.
Piaband said:
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I think GS4 & Note3 development will be pretty similar to GS2, Note, GS3 and Note2.
AFAIK, for example, the AOSP based ROMs don't really support the S-Pen on the Notes, but that's more app specific.
Cameras have long been, and will likely continue to be a problem. Video capture rates may be lower, features like both cameras, sound in pictures, smart scroll may not be supportable.
As always, for stock features, there will be stock based ROMs. Take your choice, features or AOSP based.
As with all the other Galaxy S class devices, there will be two main variants: International Exynos Octa & US/LTE/Qualcomm. ROMs, XDA forum sections and many issues will be different for each.
I predict that many ROM devs will continue to complain about the lack of Exynos info and source code. But they will develop, as best they can. I'd like to see Samsung open up more, Sony and Qualcomm are better at open-ness.
And there will be at least one other group for the Qualcomm variants; I'd hope the US carrier variants will all be able to run the same ROMs, but previous experience is different I guess.
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For the longest time and to this day you could not get the FM radio to work on CM without buying a $10 Spirit radio app.
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1st post of my thread has links to free versions, as well as free alphas of Spirit2, with digital audio features for Galaxy S class devices.
I hope the proposed Android FM API will see success and provide more options.
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Snapdragon always gets more aosp... So i assume more serious devs that are still in board will get Qualcomm
trolol and awayyy!! Expect typos this is my phone.
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Only reason I ask is that the i9300 get newer software updates vs the 8747 or t999. I was recently dead set on getting the i9500 but now it well be based more on development. The the ir blaster won't work km cm or aosp as it doesn't work on the note 10.1...Only touch wiz. Not really a big deal to me but I was Curtis as th where most devs are from that usually get the international ones. LTE to me means is reach my data cap sooner so hsdpa+ is plenty quick got me.
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Entropy512 said:
Most experienced developers are leaving Samsung for manufacturers that don't treat them like **** (see the Superbrick fiasco), leaving only the "me-too" smali-hack-kangs and a very small number of experienced competent developers like Andrei.
Quality, not quantity - most of the stuff in the I9100 and I9300 forums is crap, people who took a Touchwizz base, themed it, made some build.prop hacks, and called it a whole new firmware package. They're lucky in that Touchwizz is so bad that it's easy to improve upon it.
Compare to, for example, the Xperia T where there are 5-10 or more developers all contributing as a team to something that only has two threads (One for CM10, one for CM10.1) There aren't many people working with Sony stock firmwares because, honestly, it's REALLY hard to improve upon them because they're so good to begin with. Most of the few things that can be improved are achievable with simple TiBu freezes, no smali hacking required.
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Yeah, I guess that's just for exynos based galaxy devices. My US S2 Variant has several 4.2.2 aosp roms. Aokp, cm10.1, pac, slim, rootbox etc. I assume the USA s4 will be similar.
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Who will be our CM dev?
Update: Looks like w00tc0d3 will make CM for the Qualcomm version.
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Don't worry... someone will. This device will be to popular not to have CM.
Re: codeworkx will no longer make CM for the S4.
Generally there were 3 developers who maintained samsung devices
1. Codeworkx
2. Entropy512 and
3. Xplodwild
Of them the first 2 have vowed to never waste their time on exynos
Xplodwild is still there but how much time he will have I have no idea..
It will be very difficult to get competent and experienced developers so quickly ..
So initially S4 will definitely be behind in AOSP development IMO
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The way Samsung is treating the dev's & developer community I doubt anyone from CM team will be left with Samsung devices in near future :/
If you want CM or AOSP don't buy Samsung's devices. They never have offered any real support toward third party development. Ask Entropy512 and he'll tell you the whole story. They promise something but never live up to their words. I'm sure some people here still remember the Exynos saga.
Re: codeworkx will no longer make CM for the S4.
There's always the North American versions.
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AW: codeworkx will no longer make CM for the S4.
Don't worry, S4 cones with Snapdragon 600, Exynos will be released late summer. I think dev support will be great!
I'm pretty sure development support for this device will be poppin! The S3 and the S2 didn't disappoint.
Just wanna know who our CM developer will be.
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I'm pretty sure development support for this device will be poppin! The S3 and the S2 didn't disappoint.
Just wanna know who our CM developer will be.
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I wouldn't be sure of that. The most experienced devs for Exynos are sick of it and won't support S4. Maybe new will come, but will they as good as them?
CM is a community-project so devs are not forced to develop for a device even if it's popular if they want they do. I think S4 will be far behind other AOSP devices. Just take a look at S2 and S3. If you want CM don't for Samsung, go Sony or Nexus. Don't be disappointed about CM on S4 (if it will be released?), you have been warned.
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I wouldn't be sure of that. The most experienced devs for Exynos are sick of it and won't support S4.
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Don't forget that for the majority it will be a Qualcomm device, not Exynos....
Same kind of statement from Gokhan Moral http://www.gokhanmoral.com/
AW: codeworkx will no longer make CM for the S4.
I'm using touchwiz based Roms since I got a S2.
My phones always work, they never let me down.
I see no reason to install a AOSP rom.
On a Nexus 7 AOSP ROMs are stock+extras.
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Developing for a Samsung device is a nightmare.
End of story.
I warn any of you who expects a thriving developing community here to look elsewhere.
A popular device like this is no use if Samsung won't even support the devs here.
Livebyte said:
Developing for a Samsung device is a nightmare.
End of story.
I warn any of you who expects a thriving developing community here to look elsewhere.
A popular device like this is no use if Samsung won't even support the devs here.
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I really need removable battery and extra SD ... so where to go?
HTC One or Sony Experia Z
Mittaa said:
I really need removable battery and extra SD ... so where to go?
HTC One or Sony Experia Z
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Sarcasm, interesting.
LG Optimus G Pro.
A Snapdragon 600 device.
Well for the Qualcomm devices (AKA US versions) I would expect Cyanogen himself to continue to support it as he has for the S3 (US versions)
That being said... I have little to no faith that VZW will have an ulocked bootloader so I am personally not even going to look at this device until that issue is taken care of..
kejar31 said:
Well for the Qualcom devices (AKA US versions) I would expect the Cyanogen himself to continue to support it as he has for the S3 (US versions)
That being said... I have little to no faith that VZW will have an ulocked bootloader so I am personally not even going to look at this device until that issue is taken care of..
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It's probably true for the Qualcomm versions.
You US people always get the good stuff!
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Sarcasm, interesting.
LG Optimus G Pro.
A Snapdragon 600 device.
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Just seen review from LG Optimus G Pro. Nice phone, good battery ... locked bootloader, bad bad bad support when it comes to upgrades and bug fixes (worse than Samsung!). And to be honest I hate iWhore(ish) glass back and front ... always use case anyway.
Liked the idea of Sony Experia Z water resistance ... but can't pull the battery and just so glossy, glassy
Damned I think I'ill stick with my old SGS2 ... best phone for me ever :good:
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Just seen review from LG Optimus G Pro. Nice phone, good battery ... locked bootloader, bad bad bad support when it comes to upgrades and bug fixes (worse than Samsung!). And to be honest I hate iWhore(ish) glass back and front ... always use case anyway.
Liked the idea of Sony Experia Z water resistance ... but can't pull the battery and just so glossy, glassy
Damned I think I'ill stick with my old SGS2 ... best phone for me ever :good:
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Viva la Galaxy brother! SGS2 all the way! :good:
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Don't forget that for the majority it will be a Qualcomm device, not Exynos....
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And what make you think that the US version will be sold more than the international version which is available world wide?
filter is a list of devices that get to have android 4.3 which shows the galaxy s2.
please do not get your hopes up
http://www.loucosporandroid.com.br/2013/08/android-43-confira-lista-de-aparelhos.html?m=1
http://www.webmasterpoint.org/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-e-s2-android-422-e-43-aggiornamento-samsung-comunica-data-ufficiale-uscita_p53830.html
I think, that in upright world we should get at least android 4.3.x update.
But life isn't like that, so sadly it might be a rumor.
Hope we will see any proof from Samsung or leaks from right sources.
Please.. It ain't gonna happen. Just buy a new device if you want more updates.
Donnie Sins said:
Please.. It ain't gonna happen. Just buy a new device if you want more updates.
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no need i bet if android 5 wil come out this phone still run it with custom roms and or samsung stock themed or ported roms so.
wulsic said:
no need i bet if android 5 wil come out this phone still run it with custom roms and or samsung stock themed or ported roms so.
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Maybe it will, but that's ported roms you're talking about. This thread is about Samsung updates right?
Samsung one day may need to match Apple's 4 os versions for each iphones. Thought 3GS was a fluke but iphone 4 got os 4 to 7. Apple is continuing to sell the 4S meaning it will go from os 5 to 8 too.
guys you should just forget about any more software updates from samsung its over..
this device is long forgotten by samsung
GalaxyGusta said:
guys you should just forget about any more software updates from samsung its over..
this device is long forgotten by samsung
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Yeap, I was told the same by one of the Engineer who works in Samsung.
I feeling bad because i just bought it and this news..Oh man!!!
4.3 is never going to happen.
The Galaxy S2 update proces will stop at 4.1.2 I think. The big problem here is the fact that Qualcomm stopped making drivers for the Qualcomm chip inside some Galaxy S2 variants like the American T-Mobile and Skyrocket variants after Android 4.1.2.
Samsung can only port 4.2.2 to the Exynos variants (because they make their own drivers), that will be the I9100(M,P,T), I777 and Epic 4G Touch variants.
Will Samsung choose to update those variants to 4.2.2 and leave the QC variants at 4.1.2? Or will they keep it simple and stop at 4.1.2 like HTC did with the HTC One S (2 variants one with a Snapdragon S3 which QC stopped supporting and another variant with a Snapdragon S4 which QC still supports)?
An Android 4.3 update for the Exynos variants would mean those American variants will be surpassed by 2 Android versions and that is never going to happen.
iyengar said:
Yeap, I was told the same by one of the Engineer who works in Samsung.
I feeling bad because i just bought it and this news..Oh man!!!
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its a nice device even without updates but if you'r into that kind of stuff you should of buy a NEXUS I bought one and its coming to me next week cant wait to switch
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Samsung one day may need to match Apple's 4 os versions for each iphones. Thought 3GS was a fluke but iphone 4 got os 4 to 7. Apple is continuing to sell the 4S meaning it will go from os 5 to 8 too.
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and what did you get with newer ios version? new icons? new lockscreen? cmon.. the real differences from ios 4 to 7 are really few
btw @Stevemeister .. i don't understand why samsung should bother so much about iniquity of americans ...
i personally don't think they will update any further the gs2.. but imho US is not the problem
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and what did you get with newer ios version? new icons? new lockscreen? cmon.. the real differences from ios 4 to 7 are really few
btw @Stevemeister .. i don't understand why samsung should bother so much about iniquity of americans ...
i personally don't think they will update any further the gs2.. but imho US is not the problem
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Well Samsung made those variants so they should care, the reason for all those variants are all the different bands those carriers want to support. I really hate all the different American variants, Murica before all. Samsung should release just one variant woldwide so they wouldn't have these problems.
But those variants are a good reason for Samsung to stop updating the S2. The Exynos chipset is more than capable to run Android 4.2.2 or 4.3 for that matter so they can't use arguments like the SoC is to slow or RAM is too low. It's kinda convient for them that QC stopped the support.
But all in all the S2 got enough updates. From 2.3.x to 4.1.x is very nice for an Android phone.
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and what did you get with newer ios version? new icons? new lockscreen? cmon.. the real differences from ios 4 to 7 are really few
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Maybe all those missing 'new' features that's been in other OSes for a while? How about just Open GL ES 3.0.
Forget official 4.3. Anyway or warranty is expired. Just flash cm.i think they are working on 4.3 nightlies for s2
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Something more to add to the RUMOR list
Dead link for me.
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Dead link for me.
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4.3 isn't likely for SGS2, but looks like we might be getting 4.4 Kitkat
EDIT: Well that might be a bit premature, 4.4 will have lower requirements than 4.3, so SGS2 will certainly be able to handle it, it's just up to Samsung now whether they want to do a new 4.4 rom for SGS2.
Even if 4.3 Official is released
i will stick with Cyanogenmod
TWz is very laggy
At least I learned something here. Never trust Samsung. Never trust ARM. Never trust Android. And never trust XDA members and their belief that customs ROMs will magically fix everything.
Open source hardware I say.
I currently own a T-mo Galaxy S6 and am really disappointed with the lack of ROMs available for it. Part of the reason - based on my understanding so far - is that because the S6 has an Exynos chip, custom AOSP ROMs are not possible because Samsung hasn't released the source (or something like that ). I'm considering getting an S7 Edge - since it's on a Qualcomm processor, can we reasonably expect to see AOSP-based custom ROMs for it? I would consider upgrading to an S7 if it meant access to a vanilla, touchWiz-free, marshmallow ROM.
Within a couple months
It shouldn't take too long..
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Within a couple months
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So the question is 'when', and not 'if'? That's good news in itself! Follow-up question: Is there a lot of variation between the carrier versions of the S7 that would hinder cross-development?
jonathan3579 said:
How can you be disappointed with the lack of ROMs for a phone that hasn't even been officially released yet?
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Maybe you misread the OP - I meant the lack of ROMs for the t-mo s6, not s7.
sevengroove said:
Maybe you misread the OP - I meant the lack of ROMs for the s6, not s7.
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I did! Sorry about that!!! I guess my edit wasn't fast enough, lol.
jonathan3579 said:
I did! Sorry about that!!! I guess my edit wasn't fast enough, lol.
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Hah, no worries
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So the question is 'when', and not 'if'? That's good news in itself! Follow-up question: Is there a lot of variation between the carrier versions of the S7 that would hinder cross-development?
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I believe the tmo varient has unlockable bootloaders which means easier dev support. But the international versions should reveieve the most support since tmo users are a minority compared to the rest of the globe. The Verizon version would probably be the worst.
tiskewlio said:
I believe the tmo varient has unlockable bootloaders which means easier dev support. But the international versions should reveieve the most support since tmo users are a minority compared to the rest of the globe. The Verizon version would probably be the worst.
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Good point. Although it will be interesting to see what sort of dev support the non-US versions of the s7 will have since they are all on the exynos chip.
The tmo version will probably have more dev support than the rest of the world IMO. Of all the US carriers, they are the most open and almost always have the most support. Global has exynos so no aosp for them unless the code their hardware drivers from scratch(qcom provides these for us) the only thing I've noticed is that Samsung uses their own touch controller in the s7 unlike any phone before, which I don't think will be an issue, as that's probably just in the kernel which is open source anyways. Aside from that I think it's mostly just getting a device tree up and running to port aosp over which shouldn't be too difficult. Then again I've only ever compiled aosp on a Nexus so I may be wrong here.
Touch wiz improved a lot since the first galaxy note. And honestly all you need is root and luckypatcher to control your phone better plus super user
I'm working on pulling device trees in for cm. Shouldn't take too long
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I'm working on pulling device trees in for cm. Shouldn't take too long
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Nice. Samsung told me they would release kernel source when the phone actually releases, so hopefully we get that tomorrow.
And now we have hit an obstacle...
Was too excited with my S7 purchase on Friday to notice the bad news about the locked snapdragon bootloader. W.T.F. Why is Samsung doing this ...
So glad I have a Nexus 6P for updates/roms. Samsung is always giving users a raw deal when it comes to their flagships I feel like
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Man, in retrospect, this thread seems so naively optimistic lol
This is why Google should have never canceled the GPE. Although instead of only selling phones which were expensive and no payment/contract plans offered. They should release official Roms which could be flashed via stock recover for select oems like Samsung. Also Google could sell OEM phones for fi.
I would read this thread for the latest findings. It may be quite some time before we get root, if ever (much less TWRP). It looks like this device is locked down really tight.
Plus you want AOSP theres the nexus for ya. Sorry it doesn't have the slick looks and great features, but youll have your aosp. Now people cant excuse because they wanted a bigger phone. Every phone is big now. Why choose Samsung only to take away ABSOLUTELY EVERY FEATURE except cosmetic?
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At least this way people will be stuck with TW. As mean as that sounds you DID buy it from samsung not google m8
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