Who will be our CM dev?
Update: Looks like w00tc0d3 will make CM for the Qualcomm version.
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SammyDroidWiz said:
Who will be our CM dev?
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Don't worry... someone will. This device will be to popular not to have CM.
Re: codeworkx will no longer make CM for the S4.
Generally there were 3 developers who maintained samsung devices
1. Codeworkx
2. Entropy512 and
3. Xplodwild
Of them the first 2 have vowed to never waste their time on exynos
Xplodwild is still there but how much time he will have I have no idea..
It will be very difficult to get competent and experienced developers so quickly ..
So initially S4 will definitely be behind in AOSP development IMO
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The way Samsung is treating the dev's & developer community I doubt anyone from CM team will be left with Samsung devices in near future :/
If you want CM or AOSP don't buy Samsung's devices. They never have offered any real support toward third party development. Ask Entropy512 and he'll tell you the whole story. They promise something but never live up to their words. I'm sure some people here still remember the Exynos saga.
Re: codeworkx will no longer make CM for the S4.
There's always the North American versions.
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AW: codeworkx will no longer make CM for the S4.
Don't worry, S4 cones with Snapdragon 600, Exynos will be released late summer. I think dev support will be great!
I'm pretty sure development support for this device will be poppin! The S3 and the S2 didn't disappoint.
Just wanna know who our CM developer will be.
Reviewers said:
I'm pretty sure development support for this device will be poppin! The S3 and the S2 didn't disappoint.
Just wanna know who our CM developer will be.
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I wouldn't be sure of that. The most experienced devs for Exynos are sick of it and won't support S4. Maybe new will come, but will they as good as them?
CM is a community-project so devs are not forced to develop for a device even if it's popular if they want they do. I think S4 will be far behind other AOSP devices. Just take a look at S2 and S3. If you want CM don't for Samsung, go Sony or Nexus. Don't be disappointed about CM on S4 (if it will be released?), you have been warned.
vortox said:
I wouldn't be sure of that. The most experienced devs for Exynos are sick of it and won't support S4.
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Don't forget that for the majority it will be a Qualcomm device, not Exynos....
Same kind of statement from Gokhan Moral http://www.gokhanmoral.com/
AW: codeworkx will no longer make CM for the S4.
I'm using touchwiz based Roms since I got a S2.
My phones always work, they never let me down.
I see no reason to install a AOSP rom.
On a Nexus 7 AOSP ROMs are stock+extras.
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Developing for a Samsung device is a nightmare.
End of story.
I warn any of you who expects a thriving developing community here to look elsewhere.
A popular device like this is no use if Samsung won't even support the devs here.
Livebyte said:
Developing for a Samsung device is a nightmare.
End of story.
I warn any of you who expects a thriving developing community here to look elsewhere.
A popular device like this is no use if Samsung won't even support the devs here.
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I really need removable battery and extra SD ... so where to go?
HTC One or Sony Experia Z
Mittaa said:
I really need removable battery and extra SD ... so where to go?
HTC One or Sony Experia Z
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Sarcasm, interesting.
LG Optimus G Pro.
A Snapdragon 600 device.
Well for the Qualcomm devices (AKA US versions) I would expect Cyanogen himself to continue to support it as he has for the S3 (US versions)
That being said... I have little to no faith that VZW will have an ulocked bootloader so I am personally not even going to look at this device until that issue is taken care of..
kejar31 said:
Well for the Qualcom devices (AKA US versions) I would expect the Cyanogen himself to continue to support it as he has for the S3 (US versions)
That being said... I have little to no faith that VZW will have an ulocked bootloader so I am personally not even going to look at this device until that issue is taken care of..
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It's probably true for the Qualcomm versions.
You US people always get the good stuff!
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Sarcasm, interesting.
LG Optimus G Pro.
A Snapdragon 600 device.
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Just seen review from LG Optimus G Pro. Nice phone, good battery ... locked bootloader, bad bad bad support when it comes to upgrades and bug fixes (worse than Samsung!). And to be honest I hate iWhore(ish) glass back and front ... always use case anyway.
Liked the idea of Sony Experia Z water resistance ... but can't pull the battery and just so glossy, glassy
Damned I think I'ill stick with my old SGS2 ... best phone for me ever :good:
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Just seen review from LG Optimus G Pro. Nice phone, good battery ... locked bootloader, bad bad bad support when it comes to upgrades and bug fixes (worse than Samsung!). And to be honest I hate iWhore(ish) glass back and front ... always use case anyway.
Liked the idea of Sony Experia Z water resistance ... but can't pull the battery and just so glossy, glassy
Damned I think I'ill stick with my old SGS2 ... best phone for me ever :good:
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Viva la Galaxy brother! SGS2 all the way! :good:
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Don't forget that for the majority it will be a Qualcomm device, not Exynos....
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And what make you think that the US version will be sold more than the international version which is available world wide?
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I had an Arc for 1 month, I really liked it but I couldn't live without a variety of custom roms
I am now on Sensation and thinking about the Xperia S (sorry no proper section yet),this upcoming phone is totally awesome in both look and features, BUT I am afraid XDA devs will not be interested again...
Though I think the only way to make it sexy for them is that:
-Sony send a free device(s) to known devs team like CM,Virtuous,MIUI,Modaco...
If you have other ideas then throw them here
Sony gave Arc and Arc S to CM devs, so don't complain
Developement is harder on SE devices than on for example on HTC decices from what I've heard - that's the reason why we don't have that much devs
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Sony Ericsson always used quite a lot of special hardware, especially when it comes to camera sensors. It's always been a challenge for developers to get those to work on custom roms.
The problem in 2011 is that there was too much time between the hardware release and the availability of certain sources and the bootloader unlock.
If they make sure the Xperia S can be unlocked right away and the sources are available fast then we might get a lot of development going on.
Then again, Sony doesn't care that much, the vast majority of users doesn't even root, so they focus mainly on the stock ROMs. And they are the best of all stock ROMs. By far. And the default software on the 2012 looks to be extremely good and complete.
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I came from Optimus 2X as kernel developer, I hope I can contribute something once xperia S available, as long, Sony gives developer access to tweak the phone, like kernel source code, unlocked bootloader as default and offcourse new OS update...
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I came from Optimus 2X as kernel developer, I hope I can contribute something once xperia S available, as long, Sony gives developer access to tweak the phone, like kernel source code, unlocked bootloader as default and offcourse new OS update...
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Imo, they totally do.
You could check this e.g.
IMO SE has tried all hard to support XDA in terms of development let's hope under Sony's management they do the same.
Best way to make them interested is to buy them one with donations.
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It's very hard to turn a hTC dev into a Sony one,though a samsung one is easy because whatever galaxy series are good they lack the higher grade materials used by Sony,specially Xperia S which look like a portable Bravia tv
The X10 gave a bad taste to xda devs, the Arc was not well liked too because it wasn't dual core,but now the xperia S with it's very good CPU,12mp camera and HD screen should be perfect!
They just have to promote it better in advertisements inside xda and other forums adv spaces,the Google Nexus Prime is very well advertised for exemple,there is a remarquable ''push'' marketing
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They just have to promote it better in advertisements inside xda
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I think, they really do.
Afaik there are already two XDA members from Sony.
And btw, SE/Sony was the first manufacturer, who gave the community a official way to unlock the BL of devices (now HTC does the same).
Once they released camera libs to FXP team.
They even released a ICS alpha for XDA devs.
I haven't seen another manufacturer doing something like that.
(correct me if I'm wrong at some point)
So why the custom roms on Arc are so poor?
I was expecting 10x more specially that it was unlocked way before Sensation (I was here).
I hope sgs3 will not flame devs again and forget about xperia S
vegetaleb said:
So why the custom roms on Arc are so poor?
I was expecting 10x more specially that it was unlocked way before Sensation (I was here).
I hope sgs3 will not flame devs again and forget about xperia S
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I think it's because most of the developers was behind Dual core devices like HTC Sensation, Samsung etc. but we are making progress we have a great team of dedicated developers like FreeXperia Team. Now our device is under official CM chart. We have most popular custom ROMs like MIUI, CM and few stock based ROM. Lot of the other custom ROM's I have seen are most based on CM so doesn't make much difference. The exceptions are Oxygen, SuperOSR etc. Those developers are active with Nexus devices.
Unlike other devices Sony is little hard to develop due to heavy customization and hardware. Compared to other manufactures Sony has only few customers. HTC users stay with HTC, Samsung users stays with Samsung devices and upgrade to newer Samsung model but they hardly change from HTC to Samsung etc. So it will take time. I'm guessing by Xperia S release we might see few more developers because now we have more advance hardware people might consider upgrading to Sony. But I'm happy with the development what we have now.
i already love the Xperia S
will surely be buying it....
though i dont mind if the community donates a Xperia ION/Xperia S
i dont think no. of custom ROMs is really something to worry about...
we dont need half baked ROMs which are all basically stock ROMs just with some apps removed/added and few "cosmetic" changes... i have seen may communities which have TONS of roms which are hardly 2% different from stock ROM... thats not going to help... just a few well supported and developed ROMs is all that is needed... oh and dont forget powerful kernels as however good a ROM is it cant fully use the power of the device unless u have excellent kernels...
as for general developer interest... HTC & Samsung devices are most loved by devs because of the open nature of the vendors... also both of these vendors have a HUGE user base... some developers prefer to work only on devices which are widely used...
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I think, they really do.
Afaik there are already two XDA members from Sony.
And btw, SE/Sony was the first manufacturer, who gave the community a official way to unlock the BL of devices (now HTC does the same).
Once they released camera libs to FXP team.
They even released a ICS alpha for XDA devs.
I haven't seen another manufacturer doing something like that.
(correct me if I'm wrong at some point)
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Samsung took the first move in the developer interest
BTW Bootloader are factory unlocked in all devices(Not for galaxy nexus,u have to use a tool )
They donated many devices to devs
And they devs are still their and working on CM9...
sahibunlimited said:
Samsung took the first move in the developer interest
BTW Bootloader are factory unlocked in all devices(Not for galaxy nexus,u have to use a tool )
They donated many devices to devs
And they devs are still their and working on CM9...
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Based on my experience with LG Optimus 2x with unlocked and standard bootloader, it is very easy to bring back brick Optimus 2x by using nvflash/smartflash way. I can mess with partition size without worry about non bootable android device.
And now, android development in Optimus 2x getting rise, many new ROMs get published..
If Sony gives those flexibility with their phone(not to worry about brick phone as long it is related with software), I believe we can really mess with Sony Xperia S
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DooMLoRD said:
i already love the Xperia S
will surely be buying it....
though i dont mind if the community donates a Xperia ION/Xperia S
i dont think no. of custom ROMs is really something to worry about...
we dont need half baked ROMs which are all basically stock ROMs just with some apps removed/added and few "cosmetic" changes... i have seen may communities which have TONS of roms which are hardly 2% different from stock ROM... thats not going to help... just a few well supported and developed ROMs is all that is needed... oh and dont forget powerful kernels as however good a ROM is it cant fully use the power of the device unless u have excellent kernels...
as for general developer interest... HTC & Samsung devices are most loved by devs because of the open nature of the vendors... also both of these vendors have a HUGE user base... some developers prefer to work only on devices which are widely used...
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I agree with DoomLoRD its better to have quality over quantity. Few ROMs but stable, fast, and beautiful instead of bunch of ROMs that hardly have difference from the STOCK one or improve nothing its pointless.
I don't agree with samsung actual users being loyal to the brand, most of sgs2 users are freshly converted people from symbian/bb/iphone to Android.They wanted the best specs from the beginning,though they are a little deceived by the poor plastic and design.SE Arc lacked the dual core and was sold at a high price which made people buy sgs2 instead, the Xperia S packs very good specs(12mp,dual core),superb design and appareantly nice materials!
So unless the sgs3 features quad-core cpu and also 12mp there are big chances to have people switching from sammy to Sony this time.
HTC fans are very loyal to HTC because of the Sense roms and super high quality aluminium materials,but some dudes like me who were SE fans in the past...we can come back to Sony again
Why should SGS II people switch to the Sony Xperia S?!
They should offer the same performance or SGS II should be faster due Exynos.
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SE is corporating very much with us devs. FXP team has got access to the needed devices of 2011 line. From what is expected this work will be continued with 2012 devices. Dont worry FXP team will support Xperia S for sure
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Bin4ry said:
Dont worry FXP team will support Xperia S for sure
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Then I'll pre-order one for sure.
Thanks FXP Team for your great work.
Bin4ry said:
SE is corporating very much with us devs. FXP team has got access to the needed devices of 2011 line. From what is expected this work will be continued with 2012 devices. Dont worry FXP team will support Xperia S for sure
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Now that we have your "official word" on the matter we all can stop worrying about developer support
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This is the unofficial thread to find the list of developers for the Samsung Galaxy Note II.
If you are a developer and or ROM maker/cooker would like to confirm that you are going to dev on this device please send me a pm, and I will add you to the list. In past experiences these types of threads have shown to be very helpful to build dev support for a device, and also to help people decide on a device.
What, actually is the list for?
Basically its for people and devs to see all the dev support the device will have. This sometimes is the deciding factor for getting a phone. If there's huge dev support more people will come. This makes it easier for people to find information on what devs will be supporting the note 2.
To pm me and get added to the list Click Here.
Let's make this Galaxy Note II community awesome!
Confirmed Developers
1.Utacka
2.thering1975
3.DakiX
4.::indie::
5.m3dd0g
6.Crash 1976
7.g.lewarne
8.toxicthunder
9.awesomehacker
10.KashaMalaga
11.-Viperboy-
12.lennyuk
13.Dexter_nlb
14.DocRambone
15.imilka
16.f3w1n
17.kristofpetho
18.mike1986.
19.Stavr0s91i
20.wanam
21.xator91
22.Beukhof1
23.ptmr3
24.Anas M.I
25.cpu999
26.AndreiLux
27.Chainfire
28.Patrics83
29.Chenglu
30.bigbiff
Hi,
Thanks for starting this thread. I just want to ask "Do you think there be a lot of development for this phone?" Particularly for Note II, in general for future Samsung phones.
I just finished watching this video here or here and I just heard about some developers leaving Samsung altogether? Samsung locking bootloaders? Samsung getting too big for their own ego?
I currently own the Int'l N7000 and I found the development to be good for what I want. I didn't check out the i717 thread but I assume they are fair.
I'm not really experienced in rooting but I found Samsung Note to be fairly straight forward. I recently rooted an HTC Amaze 4G and the numerous steps plus the lack of info made me never to buy an HTC phone (even if I do like the HTC One X, my friend has the North American version and he said development is low there).
This is one reason why I'm holding out on the Note II until Feb 2013, maybe even Sept 2013 (in case Note 3) comes out because I want to see how the development plays out.
I know the phone just came out, but I assumed International Note development should be all hunky dory but I never know. Makes me not want to switch devices. I had an Int'l Galaxy S2 previously and development for that is great!
I hear Sony development is awesome. But then, I think I'll just go get a Nexus for ease of development (but the screen is so small!)
What do you guys think?
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Confirmed Developers
1.Utacka
2.thering1975
3.DakiX
4.::indie::
5........
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thanks leafsacc, I wasn't aware of this until now. I'm still not sure what's going on but I assumed there would be a way around a bootloader, as coders always find a way :highfive:
but reading the below, says it could have been verizon which was the cause of the bootloader, not samsung. so why is xdadevtv directing his video to samsung? is it because no open source was given for the s3? has it still not been released? will it be? anyone care to sum it up for some of us who aren't in the know? :>
Based on Samsung’s track record of always shipping devices with unlocked bootloaders, we can all safely deduce that Verizon is the one to blame here.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-unlocked/
For starters cm will not support n7100 if samsung dont change their ways. atleast the current dev team in cm will not support newer samsung exynos devices. i9300/n80xx was the last. Only way to get n7100 supported is if samsung cooperate or a new dev join cm dev team.
Without cm support i cannot do my paranoidandroid from source as I do with n7000. Time will tell if some new dev join cm samsung team or samsung get their act together. Dont look good though.
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For starters cm will not support n7100 if samsung dont change their ways. atleast the current dev team in cm will not support newer samsung exynos devices. i9300/n80xx was the last. Only way to get n7100 supported is if samsung cooperate or a new dev join cm dev team.
Without cm support i cannot do my paranoidandroid from source as I do with n7000. Time will tell if some new dev join cm samsung team or samsung get their act together. Dont look good though.
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Whoops not good news :crying: i need also sources...
Well I don't get it because it is sharing most of the hardware with S3 so the stuff should be at least ported easily.
Now I understand Samsung being a complete ass with their proprietary drivers
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jbounours said:
Well I don't get it because it is sharing most of the hardware with S3 so the stuff should be at least ported easily.
Now I understand Samsung being a complete ass with their proprietary drivers
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You still need one of the dev maintaining exynos devices to buy n7100 and then maintaining it... we can hope for someone to step up but its their freetime and money. Entropy512 told me he would be buying at&t version which is nearly identical if samsung would change their behavior. All we can do for now is to sit and wait...
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Hi guys, my ROM is finally finished and now uploaded at 89%.
I need a tester! My Note 2 has not arrived yet
Please write via PM.
You forgot chainfire..
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This is a great thread. I hope more chefs will chime in.
I am considering a Note II but it is absolutely vital that CM is developed for it, together with Paranoid Android. Especially since Key Lime Pie (CM11?) is be around the corner.
I also think it is important with AOSP/AOKP development for it.
So I hope the issue will be sorted during this month. If not, I am afraid that I have to consider a different game plan.
Buying a device without proper developer support is a no go for me.
For everyone woundering about my sources here is a statement from Entropy512:
Entropy512 said:
Not likely to happen. If CM comes to the Note 2, it will only be if a new maintainer steps up.
Most of the current Exynos maintainer team (myself, espenfjo, codeworkx) and others have all decided that our current devices will be our last non-Nexus Exynos devices. I'm not sure about xplodwild, but I have a feeling he's highly unlikely to take up another Haxxinos with the rest of us gone and given his prior experiences with it.
If Samsung changes their attitude towards developers, this might change, but their attitude lately (zero documentation, zero platform source code, a trend towards bootloader locking - Only the Verizon S3 has a locked bootloader now, but Samsung has had the infrastructure in place since the S2 and they are constantly adding more checks) has led to the current Exynos maintainer team deciding that enough is enough. I don't think any of us are going to do anything to make Samsung's Exynos devices more attractive to any particular market segment until they provide assistance (in the form of technical documentation and source code) in return. I don't know about the others, but if they offer me a free device I'll say no - I refuse to participate in a PR stunt like the I9100 donations were.
Pretty much the only way I'll go back is if I see reference platform source that is up to the same standards as CAF and omapzoom, or they actually start providing real documentation and source code for the devices I'm currently working with.
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Thanks entwicklun,
I Googled "verizon locked bootloader samsung galaxy note" and from what I understand that it was Verizon's request to lock the bootloader. Not sure what I would do if I was Samsung but my guess is, if it helps sell more phones on Verizon then lock the boot loader. Money talks, right?
But then I'm hearing news about Samsung not giving developers this and that, just like the example below.
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Well I don't get it because it is sharing most of the hardware with S3 so the stuff should be at least ported easily.
Now I understand Samsung being a complete ass with their proprietary drivers
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And I also need a phone that will have Paranoid Android (and the odd CM here and there), but it must also a 5" phablet. I guess there is nothing wrong with my current Note, but again by searching on Google there's a possibility that the "next big thing" might be the HTC Google Nexus X+. If that has an expansion card slot, that's it, I'm not getting the Note 2.
E90 Commie said:
This is a great thread. I hope more chefs will chime in.
I am considering a Note II but it is absolutely vital that CM is developed for it, together with Paranoid Android. Especially since Key Lime Pie (CM11?) is be around the corner.
I also think it is important with AOSP/AOKP development for it.
So I hope the issue will be sorted during this month. If not, I am afraid that I have to consider a different game plan.
Buying a device without proper developer support is a no go for me.
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Thanks for all the work the dev's put in. I'm just saying, my next phone is where the developers are. Samsung doesn't own us. :laugh:
I'll be here when I get my note2 in December
For those that don't know, TW ROM, aokp and multi booting kernel (or at least 2 sesperate kernels )
Myself and utaka could probably come up with a aosp supporting kernel for the device if official CM does not materialise.
Crash Rom will be here to
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cheers, I'm sure those browsing like me will know what's up now.
I've already ordered my note 2, but I would fully support the dev crew. even if that means selling my note 2 at a loss and buying what's being developed, pending though. I do like phablets and if the x+ doesn't have an exspansion slot then I probably wouldn't buy it.
I also hope aokp devs on the note 2. I certainly love their ROMS
leafsacc said:
Samsung getting too big for their own ego?
I currently own the Int'l N7000 and I found the development to be good for what I want. But then, I think I'll just go get a Nexus for ease of development (but the screen is so small!)
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I'll be here when I get my note2 in December
For those that don't know, TW ROM, aokp and multi booting kernel (or at least 2 sesperate kernels )
Myself and utaka could probably come up with a aosp supporting kernel for the device if official CM does not materialise.
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Are noobs like me allowed to jump in please?
Utacka sir is so kind to us all in his PA thread
Anyways, I think devving for this device would initially start with kanged TW based ROMs. With CM wary on supporting the device, it does seem a bit dark but hey, I am sure there are others to step up.
But then again, you can never be too sure.
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BTW, next nexus device is perhaps open to all OEMs.
Might be an Optimus from LG but from what I've read other manufactures are welcome to jump in and join the party.
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I am the same, an expansion card slot is a big plus.
development support is also a big factor.
I would flash aokp right now but i'm so scared of emmc bug (which I assume will not be in the Note 2 just like it did not exist in GB ROM Notes. But who knows if "Key Lime Pie/Kandy Kane" might have a similar brick bug) on ICS kangs that I just stay far, far, away.
My ultimate fav is CassiesXtraLite so it's good to see thering1975 on the list.
entwicklun said:
I do like phablets and if the x+ doesn't have an exspansion slot then I probably wouldn't buy it.
I also hope aokp devs on the note 2. I certainly love their ROMS
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I might bring VillainRom to the Note2, but only if/when we can get our OTA update/optional mods app up and running to a high enough standard.
Would be nice to know for wich model is going to work each developer.
- f3w1n -
As stated by GSMArena website there will be no Android 5.0 update for Galaxy S2 and obviously should apply to the variants too.
Although this news is leaked from the company's insider, it may be true. This news may be highly disappointing to many. Here's the link. Go ahead check it out.
http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s_ii...roid_50_others_get_stuck_at_422-news-5720.php
Honestly, did anyone ever expect Android 5.0 to be officially released for our device?
dwie said:
Honestly, did anyone ever expect Android 5.0 to be officially released for our device?
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No.. I'm still waiting for the premium pack for 4.1.2 although ! Multitask is not available yet
Thanks for making another thread to tell us. There was a shortage of them.
Extra kudos for linking to gsmarea, rather than the source.
oinkylicious said:
Thanks for making another thread to tell us. There was a shortage of them.
Extra kudos for linking to gsmarea, rather than the source.
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M sorry but lot of people here dont know so I thought about this. And GSMArena was the source through which I got this news so thats why I linked it to the website. And this is the General section so I guess there is no rule not to link websites here for information. No offence.
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this is the General section so I guess there is no rule not to link websites here for information. No offence.
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M sorry but lot of people here dont know so I thought about this. And GSMArena was the source through which I got this news so thats why I linked it to the website. And this is the General section so I guess there is no rule not to link websites here for information. No offence.
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Whaaaaat?! I thought you were being sarcastic in your first post!
What the hell is happening to xda these days.....
Edit: Nice. Two of the same threads from you!
3 major upgrades for a 2 year old phone still put Samsung as one of the better ones in terms of upgrades ...
jelly bean 4.2.2 is definitely the latest that i expected.
the s2 is too old but still good.
morover the most of us will get a new phone very soon because of the contracts.
and this phone will get android 5 or higher in the future.
Gonna upgrade to another manufacturer i think...since the uk galaxy s4 will be a snapdragon based model and not the octocore we were hoping for...key lime pie will be nice.
dudung0 said:
3 major upgrades for a 2 year old phone still put Samsung as one of the better ones in terms of upgrades ...
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Still not sufficient. A 650€ flagship should be supported more than 2 years and 2 poor versions. Ics & JB...
Or at least let the community do their job...
I totally agree, and don't understand the attitude of some people here... I didn't buy the phone just to replace it at the end of contract. It's still working perfect and I don't see the need for a replacement. Samsung should just let the community handle the updates if they are to lazy to do it themselves.
S2 till it dies, and when it does, another s2.
Fu*k it, I'll buy a couple s2 when they get 300 bucks cheap here (It's still at 600 bucks unbranded, 400 branded, crazy).
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we can have it by custom roms.
as expected from samsung, they only care about selling phone and now, if you want android 5 you need to buy and s4,,,shane on you samsung
AW: [News] No Android 5.0 upgrade for Galaxy S II
cyclonemax said:
as expected from samsung, they only care about selling phone and now, if you want android 5 you need to buy and s4,,,shane on you samsung
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Dude they updated it from 2.3.6 up to 4.1.2 and they will update it to 4.2.2. Some Galaxy devices havent got any update. Just some bugfixes.
I hate samsung for that, but i love touchwiz and their hardware
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Donnie Sins said:
Whaaaaat?! I thought you were being sarcastic in your first post!
What the hell is happening to xda these days.....
Edit: Nice. Two of the same threads from you!
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My post would be closed if its a nuisance over here. This is the General section and therz no problem if I post something usefull or worth knowing info. If you have problems you can PM mod to close this thread.
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Ok, chill out now, no need to get sentimental.
I really wanna see 5.0 and what it's all about, I'm somewhat skeptical on the gigant upgrade that would represent against JB.
If a couple of devs make it work with no issues on their ROMs I don't see why we can't lobby up and ask for that update.
I mean, samsung devs vs xda devs...I'm sticking with our troops.
One thing's for sure, if the galaxy nexus gets it, I'll burn tires right in front of Samsung.
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gireeshtty9 said:
As stated by GSMArena website there will be no Android 5.0 update for Galaxy S2 and obviously should apply to the variants too.
Although this news is leaked from the company's insider, it may be true. This news may be highly disappointing to many. Here's the link. Go ahead check it out.
http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s_ii...roid_50_others_get_stuck_at_422-news-5720.php
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that's too bad..
Yes, if Samsung would now release all the sources (required by the license) we could keep upgrading our devices on our own. The S2 community has done a fabulous job, and we would get some disaffected devs back if we had all the sources. This is still a great phone. I'd hazard to say that there aren't many (any?) other 2 year old phones that still run this well on the "latest" software. I agree it might be still going strong in 4 years. Due to Samsung's intransigence however I think my next has to be Nexus. But it's hard to justify giving this up. Despite a faded screen, and reduced capacity of the battery, it still screams smoothly!
filter is a list of devices that get to have android 4.3 which shows the galaxy s2.
please do not get your hopes up
http://www.loucosporandroid.com.br/2013/08/android-43-confira-lista-de-aparelhos.html?m=1
http://www.webmasterpoint.org/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-e-s2-android-422-e-43-aggiornamento-samsung-comunica-data-ufficiale-uscita_p53830.html
I think, that in upright world we should get at least android 4.3.x update.
But life isn't like that, so sadly it might be a rumor.
Hope we will see any proof from Samsung or leaks from right sources.
Please.. It ain't gonna happen. Just buy a new device if you want more updates.
Donnie Sins said:
Please.. It ain't gonna happen. Just buy a new device if you want more updates.
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no need i bet if android 5 wil come out this phone still run it with custom roms and or samsung stock themed or ported roms so.
wulsic said:
no need i bet if android 5 wil come out this phone still run it with custom roms and or samsung stock themed or ported roms so.
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Maybe it will, but that's ported roms you're talking about. This thread is about Samsung updates right?
Samsung one day may need to match Apple's 4 os versions for each iphones. Thought 3GS was a fluke but iphone 4 got os 4 to 7. Apple is continuing to sell the 4S meaning it will go from os 5 to 8 too.
guys you should just forget about any more software updates from samsung its over..
this device is long forgotten by samsung
GalaxyGusta said:
guys you should just forget about any more software updates from samsung its over..
this device is long forgotten by samsung
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Yeap, I was told the same by one of the Engineer who works in Samsung.
I feeling bad because i just bought it and this news..Oh man!!!
4.3 is never going to happen.
The Galaxy S2 update proces will stop at 4.1.2 I think. The big problem here is the fact that Qualcomm stopped making drivers for the Qualcomm chip inside some Galaxy S2 variants like the American T-Mobile and Skyrocket variants after Android 4.1.2.
Samsung can only port 4.2.2 to the Exynos variants (because they make their own drivers), that will be the I9100(M,P,T), I777 and Epic 4G Touch variants.
Will Samsung choose to update those variants to 4.2.2 and leave the QC variants at 4.1.2? Or will they keep it simple and stop at 4.1.2 like HTC did with the HTC One S (2 variants one with a Snapdragon S3 which QC stopped supporting and another variant with a Snapdragon S4 which QC still supports)?
An Android 4.3 update for the Exynos variants would mean those American variants will be surpassed by 2 Android versions and that is never going to happen.
iyengar said:
Yeap, I was told the same by one of the Engineer who works in Samsung.
I feeling bad because i just bought it and this news..Oh man!!!
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its a nice device even without updates but if you'r into that kind of stuff you should of buy a NEXUS I bought one and its coming to me next week cant wait to switch
htcplussony said:
Samsung one day may need to match Apple's 4 os versions for each iphones. Thought 3GS was a fluke but iphone 4 got os 4 to 7. Apple is continuing to sell the 4S meaning it will go from os 5 to 8 too.
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and what did you get with newer ios version? new icons? new lockscreen? cmon.. the real differences from ios 4 to 7 are really few
btw @Stevemeister .. i don't understand why samsung should bother so much about iniquity of americans ...
i personally don't think they will update any further the gs2.. but imho US is not the problem
mirhl said:
and what did you get with newer ios version? new icons? new lockscreen? cmon.. the real differences from ios 4 to 7 are really few
btw @Stevemeister .. i don't understand why samsung should bother so much about iniquity of americans ...
i personally don't think they will update any further the gs2.. but imho US is not the problem
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Well Samsung made those variants so they should care, the reason for all those variants are all the different bands those carriers want to support. I really hate all the different American variants, Murica before all. Samsung should release just one variant woldwide so they wouldn't have these problems.
But those variants are a good reason for Samsung to stop updating the S2. The Exynos chipset is more than capable to run Android 4.2.2 or 4.3 for that matter so they can't use arguments like the SoC is to slow or RAM is too low. It's kinda convient for them that QC stopped the support.
But all in all the S2 got enough updates. From 2.3.x to 4.1.x is very nice for an Android phone.
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and what did you get with newer ios version? new icons? new lockscreen? cmon.. the real differences from ios 4 to 7 are really few
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Maybe all those missing 'new' features that's been in other OSes for a while? How about just Open GL ES 3.0.
Forget official 4.3. Anyway or warranty is expired. Just flash cm.i think they are working on 4.3 nightlies for s2
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Sincerely i cannot believe it but i would love it!!
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Something more to add to the RUMOR list
Dead link for me.
vercety974 said:
Dead link for me.
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4.3 isn't likely for SGS2, but looks like we might be getting 4.4 Kitkat
EDIT: Well that might be a bit premature, 4.4 will have lower requirements than 4.3, so SGS2 will certainly be able to handle it, it's just up to Samsung now whether they want to do a new 4.4 rom for SGS2.
Even if 4.3 Official is released
i will stick with Cyanogenmod
TWz is very laggy
At least I learned something here. Never trust Samsung. Never trust ARM. Never trust Android. And never trust XDA members and their belief that customs ROMs will magically fix everything.
Open source hardware I say.
I like the new OmniROM, looking at the posts here, and the source code it really looks exciting but I want to know, will the Galaxy SII (i9100) get OFFICIAL support? It is not very old device, plus it is a quite famous.
Thank you,
Best regards,
Ripton.
Ripton said:
I like the new OmniROM, looking at the posts here, and the source code it really looks exciting but I want to know, will the Galaxy SII (i9100) get OFFICIAL support? It is not very old device, plus it is a quite famous.
Thank you,
Best regards,
Ripton.
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I second the request.
Best Regards
i9100
My i9100 is going to love this, and with this names on the project Chainfire, Xplodwild and Dees_Troy even more.
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I would love to have this on my i9100 as well. I'm getting tired of supernexus.
Ripton said:
I like the new OmniROM, looking at the posts here, and the source code it really looks exciting but I want to know, will the Galaxy SII (i9100) get OFFICIAL support? It is not very old device, plus it is a quite famous.
Thank you,
Best regards,
Ripton.
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OFFICIAL is not a allowed word here for all builds are offical
I second the request to i9100
+1 on this.
It's one of the most sold android devices out there, even if its 2 years-old.
Imho the most sold (S2, S3, Notes) should get auto-support, that would mean covering like 50-60% of people alone
It will be nice, but if it is not supported, I understand. (no. of developers < devices)
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I would kill to have this ROM in the i9100, looks AMAZING.
S2 running omni seems possible
highdiver_2000 said:
It will be nice, but if it is not supported, I understand. (no. of developers < devices)
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I wouldn't...
Milions of S2 sold >>>>>>>>>>> Numbers of 95% of the other devices sold.
S2, S3 and all those with an VERY BIG % of android should have automatic YES.
RusherDude said:
I wouldn't...
Milions of S2 sold >>>>>>>>>>> Numbers of 95% of the other devices sold.
S2, S3 and all those with an VERY BIG % of android should have automatic YES.
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Huge amounts of users doesn't mean that anyone who has worked with them is getting really tired of them being a pain in the ass.
These devices being marked for CM10.1.3 stable simply because they had "lots of users" and not because they were actually stable is actually one of the contributing factors to why most of the former Exynos4 maintainer team were involved with founding Omni.
I got Omni running on I9100 and N7000.
On both these devices I had to replace the kernel with a CM kernel I built from sources to get it to boot (the kernel was too small compared to what it should be). Also I had to replace the updater script and binary since the installation halted with an error about missing file_contexts.
I'm no expert on these things but thru trial and error I finally managed to get it running.
What doesn't work:
WIFI, BT, GPS, DATA, INTERNAL NOR EXTERNAL STORAGE
The rest is ok. The camera works but you cant use it since it requires storage.
GSM calls work ok. The network is correctly detected and the data transmission type is there too but data doesn't work (might be as simple as editing apns). I briefly went thru the settings and options, all of them seem to be working ok.
I cherrypicked multiwindow and it works pretty good!
I'll try to get things to work but I'm slowly out of ideas. If only I could get some hints from @Entropy512 or @XpLoDWilD, they must know what could be the cause Maybe it's something with the kernel image on s2/note which has the recovery inside it as well?
BTW. I used modified CM device trees and edited them accordingly to match the Omni specs.
Entropy512 said:
Huge amounts of users doesn't mean that anyone who has worked with them is getting really tired of them being a pain in the ass.
These devices being marked for CM10.1.3 stable simply because they had "lots of users" and not because they were actually stable is actually one of the contributing factors to why most of the former Exynos4 maintainer team were involved with founding Omni.
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Thanks for the input Entropy
I understand that the "Exynos 4" pair of words already remembers you (devs that suffered them) the worst, but.. think that even after that, both starting facts are still true (They ocupy an high % of the android share and most of the people with them are really happy and didn't switch to another device yet, since they're still enough for most of the stuff). With this I mean, if omni objective is to gather android %, it is a must even if its still an inferno working with this.
I understand that the "auto-stable" move on CM wasn't correct at all. and I'm not asking for such a thing here, jut support.. but it's not a lie that we can't ask you to suffer with exynos again so it will depend on ya all .
Would like to see this ROM on i9100 too
+1 for Ommi in I9100
I hope there shall be an OmniROM for i9100. Hope that does not bring too much pain to the devs, as most of the hard work for Exynos4 is already completed. I might be mistaken, but thanks to the team we already have open source cam and sound. Further, there is not so much difference with i9300/Note2 in terms of CPU/GPU which may get further official updates from samsung. IMHO it is important to keep the results of all that dev hardwork on exynos4 platform and carry them forward to Omnirom, not just loose it as CM support for this device will most probably be dropped.
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New rom ftw!
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