Hi,
what du you think, can i use a sprint essential with bad ESN outside the USA?
Are they globally unlocked like the Motorola Verizon devices?
Sam_11 said:
Hi,
what du you think, can i use a sprint essential with bad ESN outside the USA?
Are they globally unlocked like the Motorola Verizon devices?
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Based on my experience, Sprint devices are not unlocked like the Verizon ones. So if it is still locked to Sprint, it won't work with another SIM card.
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So I bought a LG G2, and its unlocked on verizon will it still work on tmobile or att if the owner calls in and makes it a bad esn ?
Sorry if this had been reposted i tried to look for a similar thread
I was wondering if it works on T-Mobile with a good ESN?
Now why would the owner call in and make it a bad esn, are you not the owner if you bought it?
stu5797 said:
I was wondering if it works on T-Mobile with a good ESN?
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From what I understand, the Verizon variant is unlocked out of the box, meaning it should work if the phone picks up the right GSM bands.
I saw a similar thread to this, but it wasnt my same situation. I've been shopping for a LG G2 to work on verizon, found a dude on craigslist with what he says is an unlocked one, Now he says its a sprint one. But unlocked for any carrier....is this true? Like is this even possible? If so, is it going to work on verizon...100%? Like data 4g, 3g etc?
Thanks all!
I'm not an expert but I believe they are both CDMA. So it should work
askmeonemore said:
I'm not an expert but I believe they are both CDMA. So it should work
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That was my initial thought as well, but for 4g it should work no problem but for 3g/2g doesnt the ESN have to be registered on the network?
andriodfanatic said:
That was my initial thought as well, but for 4g it should work no problem but for 3g/2g doesnt the ESN have to be registered on the network?
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Yes. Verizon years ago had a bring your own device policy that allowed you to register sprint devices on Verizon, but that was a long time ago.
staticx57 said:
Yes. Verizon years ago had a bring your own device policy that allowed you to register sprint devices on Verizon, but that was a long time ago.
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So i am correct, that it will not work?
Don't bother.
CDMA carriers like Verizon and Sprint have a database of ESN's (serial numbers) that are approved for their network unlike GSM carriers like T-Mobile and AT&T where you can just pop in their respective SIM cards and use compatible unlocked GSM devices.
You can't just walk into a VZW store with a Sprint phone, go to the counter and tell the rep that you want to activate service with a (non-Verizon branded phone) Sprint phone. First of all, the ESN/MEID is not in their database, doesn't have any VZW prl (preferred roaming list) loaded, and in the case of LTE, isn't even compatible (VZW runs LTE on 700mhz, Sprint is on 800/1900/2500).
However, Sprint and VZW technically run their CDMA service (1xrtt, 3G EVDO) on compatible frequencies 800/850/1900, hence the reason their customers can roam off each other and vice versa. So technically it can work if VZW will accept the Sprint device ESN into their database and do all the backend OTA programming etc, but that's not going to happen. There's always the murky underworld of cloning, but i'll stop right here...
As for the person on Craigslist trying to urinate on you and convince you that it is raining, forget about him/her. It's likely that it might be unlocked, but that's only the GSM portion, for GSM carriers and not Verizon.
If you need a phone to use on Verizon, why not just get a Verizon phone and save yourself the hassle?
After reading stuff i figured that all G2's are world phones.
Im From india and my question is that if i get a G2 of ebay sprint one with a bad ESN, since it cant be activated on sprint again which is a given.
Now my question is can buy the phone and use it with a regular GSM sim card from india ?
If yes what would i need to do to use the phone if it has a Bad ESN.
Any kind of answer would be helpful thanks a ton
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I don't think a Sprint G2 would work in India, sorry. Sprint is a US carrier and uses CDMA instead of GSM. However, the international D802 model should work fine. The ESN is attached to the phone and not the carrier anyway, so no matter what carrier your on it won't activate.
The Sprint G2 is not factory unlocked for international GSM usage. It is an international capable device though (GSM 850/900/1800/1900). If the seller is not specifically stating that the phone has been unlocked for international use then it will not work in India. Only Sprint can unlock the phone and if your not the owner of the phone with an active line with Sprint they wont unlock it for you plain and simple. I would recommend to save your self a big hassle and buy the international G2 D802.
daCLOUD said:
The Sprint G2 is not factory unlocked for international GSM usage. It is an international capable device though (GSM 850/900/1800/1900). If the seller is not specifically stating that the phone has been unlocked for international use then it will not work in India. Only Sprint can unlock the phone and if your not the owner of the phone with an active line with Sprint they wont unlock it for you plain and simple. I would recommend to save your self a big hassle and buy the international G2 D802.
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Cool thanks a ton
berz said:
Cool thanks a ton
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No problem, I forgot to mention that the Verizon G2 is factory unlocked for GSM service. You could buy a BAD ESN Verizon G2 and put in your India GSM sim card and it would work with no unlocking necessary. I'm not sure what band you need for LTE, but HSPA+ should work.
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Just curious if any of you know if the unlocked or at&t version of the priv has the cdma radios to run on Verizon. I've been seeing the unlocked and at&t versions around $300 but the Verizon version is still like $500 and totally not worth it since I'd be paying a $250 premium on my nexus 6 for a phone with the only real updrade being a slideout keyboard.
No. The Verizon Priv has the Radios for it's Verizon service ontop of the Global GSM ones for other GSM Carriers Worldwide. The Unlocked GSM Priv either physically is missing them or its disabled by software at the Request of Verizon. If it's disabled there is a chance it could be enabled if the Priv ever does get rooted, something that Won't happen else it tarnishes BB's image, or BB enables it. And that's if its there. But it most likely isn't as the Only Major Carriers that use CDMA are Verizon and Sprint.
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No. The Verizon Priv has the Radios for it's Verizon service ontop of the Global GSM ones for other GSM Carriers Worldwide. The Unlocked GSM Priv either physically is missing them or its disabled by software at the Request of Verizon. If it's disabled there is a chance it could be enabled if the Priv ever does get rooted, something that Won't happen else it tarnishes BB's image, or BB enables it. And that's if its there. But it most likely isn't as the Only Major Carriers that use CDMA are Verizon and Sprint.
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Does this mean that an unlocked VZW Priv would run correctly with an AT&T sim? 4g LTE?
This update has been nagging me for a week now. Any experience after taking this update? My Verizon E4 is unlocked and using with non-Verizon GSM carrier.
nookin said:
This update has been nagging me for a week now. Any experience after taking this update? My Verizon E4 is unlocked and using with non-Verizon GSM carrier.
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Spouse took update on an unlocked XT1767 a few days back; no issues. But that pup is associated with Verizon post paid service via sim ported from another device on the same account. Can't speak to GSM implications but should continue to work unless VZW soft-disabled selected bands.
It is working good as same as before I took the OTA on T-Mobile.
nookin said:
This update has been nagging me for a week now. Any experience after taking this update? My Verizon E4 is unlocked and using with non-Verizon GSM carrier.
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Verizon phones are usually carrier unlocked. Although this is about to change due to fraudulent purchases.
https://arstechnica.com/information...s-for-60-days-to-prevent-black-market-resale/
madbat99 said:
Verizon phones are usually carrier unlocked. Although this is about to change due to fraudulent purchases.
https://arstechnica.com/information...s-for-60-days-to-prevent-black-market-resale/
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Well, my E4 was bought prepaid and it was locked to Verizon. I have to pay someone on eBay to have it unlocked. Newer Verizon E4 cannot even be unlocked that way. So I think is entirely to do with postpaid phones. Prepaid phones from Verizon are locked regardless.
nookin said:
Well, my E4 was bought prepaid and it was locked to Verizon. I have to pay someone on eBay to have it unlocked. Newer Verizon E4 cannot even be unlocked that way. So I think is entirely to do with postpaid phones. Prepaid phones from Verizon are locked regardless.
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Yeah prepaid is a different beast for sure.