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Is the 6P a disappointment?

So as a real android enthusiast I bought a 6P 2 weeks back and I had really high hopes since everybody seems so stoked about this device.
After unboxing I was really impressed about the buildqualitiy and the quality of the components used to make this device, but since the first boot I'm really let down by the software experience.
I come from a OnePlus X which runs a custom rom (Resurrection Remix), the CPU governor is set to performance and all animations are speeded up by a factor of 0.75x. And I must say I have the feeling the OPX feels much smoother. At first I thought is was because of the animation speed, but I notice a lot of framedrops when animating, the RAM management seems of center (sometimes when I reopen the third app in the recents he has to reload the entire app!) and batterylife isn't that well either.
At first I thought the bad batterylife was the fault of an app I had written which wasn't optimized but nothing changed after uninstalling it.
I've done a reset of the device and have doubted to flash a custom kernel and set the governor to performance but I don't think you should need to change the software of a $600 phone for decent performance in 2016...
Am I the only one noticing this? I have the feeling that the software isn't optimized and it bugs me... If anyone can give me some tips that should help me, please do.
FYI: my device has about 3hours max of screen-on, the wifi, data and GPS are always turned on, same for bluetooth since it's connected with my watch and I have a mixed use throughout the day (facebook, chat, browsing, gaming,...)

https://youtu.be/RtXtOuxBuvQ

dratsablive said:
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How does this help him at all?
To the OP, it's ok to put custom software on your OPX to improve performance but not your 6P? Why?

I dunno mate, i think its just you. For me 6p is snappiest and fastest device i have ever owned. Before snapdragon 820devices started coming it was regarded as smoothest and fastest device by all review sites also. Even now, its still up there with the best. And battery life on oneplus x is mediocre, 6p is waay better, go look at gsmarena.com battery ratings. 3 hours of sot time with wifi, data, gps, bt turned on all the time and heavy usage is really not that bad. Im getting about 5h of sot, but my usage is not so heavy.

Because I have not noticed any of what OP has experienced. So my answer to his question was an unqualified NO!

And besides, he doesn't need help. He needs to stop posting useless posts.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
How does this help him at all?
To the OP, it's ok to put custom software on your OPX to improve performance but not your 6P? Why?
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I'll surely try custom software on the Nexus 6P but the main reason I haven't yet is that everybody is positive about the experience, I wanted to feel the experience non-flashing users have (and I have the feeling something is wrong -- this is why I asked it). I know I'm more forgiving about OPX's ****ty software because it's only $250, I didn't expect any issues (although it seems I'm the only one ) with the stock software of a $600 phone to be honest.
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And besides, he doesn't need help. He needs to stop posting useless posts.
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I posted it since I hoped it might have been caused by some service (like google play services). Not everybody has the same setup so maybe there were people with the same experience. And if you see this as a useless post you shouldn't comment on it.
So if anybody can relate to my cause, please say. I'm very curious since this can be more a problem of my perception of the software than the software itself.

No one can help you. Go and return the phone.

No!. Is great
Try PureNexus
Enviado desde mi Huawei Nexus 6P mediante Tapatalk

joooe said:
No one can help you. Go and return the phone.
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What is your problem? Just because someone doesn't like your beloved phone you are just gonna razz him instead of help him or stay quiet?

My problem is people who want others to solve their problems by magic.

I do not believe in magic so I don't expect somebody to "fix" something. I just wanted to share my issue in the hope of learning more about android.
By the way, maybe it wasn't clear in my previous post but I do love this device. This is no hate post, more an educational post in which I have questions and hope to get answers from people who know about it

my 6p is great except for the mic and sound in calls, it sucks and disconnects a LOT, cant wait for the M10 !!

I'm not saying this because I'm a 6p owner, but because its the truth....anybody that says the 6p is a disappointment.... Could not possibly convince me any other phone makes them happy.
I would still take the 6p over ANY phone available at this time I'm writing this.

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My problem is people who want others to solve their problems by magic.
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You dont helping him, you should gobaway

nope
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I love mine. That being said, the throttling is a huge issue on mine. Between that and Bluetooth issues, actually thinking of RMA.

No problems with mine except for the mic issue that is taking way too long for a fix IMO, the Google thread for the issue has been active for months.

Don't take people being defensive too hard. They tend to get that way.
To be honest you maybe right. Many developers here got the 6p and returned in short return for the older nexus 6.
As for on line reviews. You can't really put much faith in those as we have seen what happens when they speak honestly. They get cut off from future devices.

Mr Patchy Patch said:
I'm not saying this because I'm a 6p owner, but because its the truth....anybody that says the 6p is a disappointment.... Could not possibly convince me any other phone makes them happy.
I would still take the 6p over ANY phone available at this time I'm writing this.
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My sentiments exactly.

Feature request, Feedback for upcoming EMUI or Honor devices (meetup discussion)

Hi Folks,
As you know, there are lot meet ups happening in India for Honor/Huawei users, currently for Honor 6X and Honor 8 Pro only, but we may see these coming to other devices as well based on the response. It may be limited for older devices where software support is not possible but eventually newer devices like, Honor 5C, Honor 8, Honor 6X and honor 8 pro would be included (if they get more requests for 5C and 8).
In this thread, lets discuss on various points/feedback and feature request that we want to raise it to the Honor teams during meetup and eventually taken up to the R&D team for consideration to enhance the end user experience in a positive way.
Anybody attending these meet ups with Honor team can put forward these points and we wish these points will be considered to provide a happy and positive user experience.
Created a thread in Honor 6X section as well so that 6X user can fill their points there and we can refer any of these thread for unique points to proceed with.
6X thread
Good luck.

Attached is the list of point raised during Honor meet up in Chennai and compiled by our fellow member @amulbaby (Abhishek)
View attachment Points_from_Chennai_Meet-up.pdf

6X thread- https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/how-to/feature-request-feedback-upcoming-emui-t3669806

As we already discussed on other thread few of the points
removal of knuckle feature
camera lag on EMUI 5 (while opening only)
Over exposed image while using front camera
timely Kernel sources for all the device
Double tap to wake up
uniform OTA acorss all devices

Expecting for expert opinion, new points, feedback, feature request from @gopinaidu77 @venugopalu007 @PalakMi @RedSkull23 @clsA @jsbeyond @amulbaby @joe2k01 add other if I missed anyone.

Update
I have a updated one @shashank1320 , the one which I made for Mumbai.
Same has been submitted to R & D for reference.
And regarding Kernel sources, Recent removal of official firmwares which directly affect development of Custom ROMs, I have already written a brief mail describing how important it is to have a Open source environment in Android Platform and that going this way would only reduce sales numbers.
Where in house processing restricts the possibility of constant upgrades, having the sources available to developers will only help us all as developers will be able to include security patches, custom kernel compatibility, additional features of further Android iterations and not wait for the OEM to release.
What we heard from Mr. Naveen at Chennai was that due to the closed loop nature of the processor, they take a base version of Android and try to build EMUI on top with all possible optimizations and iterations , which takes time to release as other OEMs mostly have to work with Qualcomm where they get most thing pre baked .They like to keep update frequency lower than other brands owing to the same reason.

amulbaby said:
What we heard from Mr. Naveen at Chennai was that due to the closed loop nature of the processor, they take a base version of Android and try to build EMUI on top with all possible optimizations and iterations , which takes time to release as other OEMs mostly have to work with Qualcomm where they get most thing pre baked .They like to keep update frequency lower than other brands owing to the same reason.
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Thanks for sharing.
Yes, regarding this. he conveyed the same message. Other OEMs using the SD version of processor gets the faster updated because Qualcomm directly work in collaboration with Google for new Android updates and SD models receive it quickly and other OEMs which has the custom Skin on Top of Android takes their own time to customize and tweak the new updates, test and release for public.

Also These OEMs keep the update frequency less unless there is anything major to be addressed like bugs, security concerns etc. If the OTA update given is stable and phone works fine without any user complaints then they avoid rolling out the updates to avoid any mess with the working updates.

Whatever you said is what we have heard as well.
Going by the number of inconsistencies we have on 8 pro, its high time to see a update. Easy to lose out of competitive market where people keep changing devices so often nowadays.

amulbaby said:
Whatever you said is what we have heard as well.
Going by the number of inconsistencies we have on 8 pro, its high time to see a update. Easy to lose out of competitive market where people keep changing devices so often nowadays.
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Couldn't agree more bro. And Huawei needs to understand from user perspective. Hardware wise devices are good but if no custom development then people opt for redmi, Moto etc.

Ok. Some points from me also.
1. The current settings screen is very cluttered and the use of colorful icons makes it look childish IMO. I would suggest if going forward with the Oreo update they keep it closer to stock and reduce the clutter in settings.
Also if they can keep the notifications and QS area more stock.
Overall, more closer to stock UI.
2. Addition of equaliser and improvement in loudness over earphones.
3. A slight improvement in sharpness in rear camera. Also improvement in low light shots.
Can't think of anymore because others are already listed.
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K.khiladi said:
Ok. Some points from me also.
1. The current settings screen is very cluttered and the use of colorful icons makes it look childish IMO. I would suggest if going forward with the Oreo update they keep it closer to stock and reduce the clutter in settings.
Also if they can keep the notifications and QS area more stock.
Overall, more closer to stock UI.
2. Addition of equaliser and improvement in loudness over earphones.
3. A slight improvement in sharpness in rear camera. Also improvement in low light shots.
Can't think of anymore because others are already listed.
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Thanks. Hope Huawei consider all these points.
We will collect and raise all to them in next meet up.

amulbaby said:
I have a updated one @shashank1320 , the one which I made for Mumbai.
Same has been submitted to R & D for reference.
And regarding Kernel sources, Recent removal of official firmwares which directly affect development of Custom ROMs, I have already written a brief mail describing how important it is to have a Open source environment in Android Platform and that going this way would only reduce sales numbers.
Where in house processing restricts the possibility of constant upgrades, having the sources available to developers will only help us all as developers will be able to include security patches, custom kernel compatibility, additional features of further Android iterations and not wait for the OEM to release.
What we heard from Mr. Naveen at Chennai was that due to the closed loop nature of the processor, they take a base version of Android and try to build EMUI on top with all possible optimizations and iterations , which takes time to release as other OEMs mostly have to work with Qualcomm where they get most thing pre baked .They like to keep update frequency lower than other brands owing to the same reason.
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How not being agree with everything you said, it's just the same i was thinking

K.khiladi said:
Ok. Some points from me also.
1. The current settings screen is very cluttered and the use of colorful icons makes it look childish IMO. I would suggest if going forward with the Oreo update they keep it closer to stock and reduce the clutter in settings.
Also if they can keep the notifications and QS area more stock.
Overall, more closer to stock UI.
2. Addition of equaliser and improvement in loudness over earphones.
3. A slight improvement in sharpness in rear camera. Also improvement in low light shots.
Can't think of anymore because others are already listed.
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Good inputs there.
Just a few points from my limited knowledge:
1. Oreo as such groups settings menu into refined categories, so that is expected going forward. However, there would be some variations, which they might not agree to eliminate as it is subjective.
2. I was asked by R&D team as to what are all the immediate concerns, few days back. I had written to them set of 7-8 points including double tap to wake, Camera optimizations(front mainly), audio output betterment and interface availability for fine tuning etc. So, thats already sent across. Insisted them to send it along with the next OTA.
3. In the PDF I have attached, as well as in the Chennai meet, we pointed out how amazing the rear optics are as well as the little inconsistencies existing. Better edge detection algo for identifying spaces between two subjects separated by a short distance, general improvement were highlighted in that. They did nod for that , not sure when it would come as an update.
Nevertheless, cameras in this phone are a thing of beauty and very closely rival some entry n mid range DSLRs.
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shashank1320 said:
Couldn't agree more bro. And Huawei needs to understand from user perspective. Hardware wise devices are good but if no custom development then people opt for redmi, Moto etc.
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Exactly. Atleast if xda development was active, we could see some security patches, upgrades from ported Mods n stuff, but with the removal of firmware sources, they are looking at sealing their own fate.
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shashank1320 said:
Thanks. Hope Huawei consider all these points.
We will collect and raise all to them in next meet up.
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Pl. see my post above. I have covered most of them in my personal conversations with Honor India. Hope to see it being implemented soon.

K.khiladi said:
Also if they can keep the notifications and QS area more stock.
Overall, more closer to stock UI.
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That's what I exactly think of, leave the notifications in panel and lockscreen like stock

amulbaby said:
Just a few points from my limited knowledge:
1. Oreo as such groups settings menu into refined categories, so that is expected going forward. However, there would be some variations, which they might not agree to eliminate as it is subjective.
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Thanks and I understand that. They will surely rearrange settings because Oreo has done that.
What I actually wanted to say is that the icons used in the settings are somewhat childish. It would be great if they are somewhat more professional looking.
I can live with that QS area but Emui curves the corners of the notifications and that somewhat doesn't fit with the QS panel above which doesn't have curved corners.
So, it's sort of a mismatch. If they could remove those curved corners from notifications, would be great.
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One big point for them. DITCH THE IOS LOOK.
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sniperlife:D said:
One big point for them. DITCH THE IOS LOOK.
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I feel they have already ditched that a lot. They did a commendable job on nougat.
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K.khiladi said:
I feel they have already ditched that a lot. They did a commendable job on nougat.
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Nah. Since EMUI 4, they are trying really hard to mimic ios. Unlike Touchwiz, ZenUI and others, they have a distinct look.
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sniperlife:D said:
Nah. Since EMUI 4, they are trying really hard to mimic ios. Unlike Touchwiz, ZenUI and others, they have a distinct look.
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Well, different opinions.
Nougat version of emui is a lot better than Kitkat and Marshmallow ones.
There's still a lot of space for improvement though
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Getting frustrated with poor performance

I see others are having issues with the phone being sluggish and freezing - requiring a forced restart. I've had these issues since day one, but the phone is just so damn beautiful to stop using.
I've tried everything I have seen on this site including factory resets and manually adding apps back in (in lieu of restoring from Google). Still happens.
I've been emailing back and forth with Essential customer service, and while they're responsive, I'm getting frustrated.
They asked me to use it in Safe Mode for a couple days, and I had no issues. So they concluded it's an app causing the problem. So they want me to do another factory reset, and then add apps back one at a time for a few days to see if I can pinpoint which app(s) are causing the issue. I have 100+ apps on the phone - this will take months to do!
My comment to them (that they didn't appreciate) is that if they want to compete with the flagship phones of other OEM's the phone should be able to handle any app you you throw at is, and I have no issues with my ZTE Axon 7 running the exact same apps.
Am I off base here? Any other suggestions?

fungo45 said:
I see others are having issues with the phone being sluggish and freezing - requiring a forced restart. I've had these issues since say one, but the phone is just so damn beautiful to stop using.
I've tried everything I have seen on this site including factory resets and manually adding apps back in (in lieu of restoring from Google). Still happens.
I've been emailing back and forth with Essential customer service, and while they're responsive, I'm getting frustrated.
They asked me to use it in Safe Mode for a couple days, and I had no issues. So they concluded it's an app causing the problem. So they want me to do another factory reset, and then add apps back one at a time for a few days to see if I can pinpoint which app(s) are causing the issue. I have 100+ apps on the phone - this will take months to do!
My comment to them (that they didn't appreciate) is that if they want to compete with the flagship phones of other OEM's the phone should be able to handle any app you you throw at is, and I have no issues with my ZTE Axon 7 running the exact same apps.
Am I off base here? Any other suggestions?
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You are off base.
There are apps that can cause issues and no manufacturer can guarantee the performance of their device with any and all apps in the PlayStore.
There are apps that have memory leaks, wake events, etc. and there is no way for them to contain any/all errant apps, nor should they.
I suggest Greenify to look at app behavior and see what isn't sleeping and taking resources.
You can also look at the battery stats and see what app is burning battery.
Social media apps are typically bad.
Things like Pet Rescue and Candy Crush can also cause issues.
Make sure you limit which apps can do notifications and limit those to SMS and email apps.
Good luck.

I would highly recommend testing the Oreo 8.1 beta. HUGE performance improvement

I've been running N 7.1.1 since I got the phone 2 weeks ago and the performance has been stellar, scrolling is smooth and fast, no freezes at all, after reading the issues with 8.1 beta (battery drain, wifi etc.) I'm in no rush to upgrade....

I am on 7.1.1, came here after searching google seeing if they'll ever do this android Oreo Update. I have some phantom touches on my touchscreen. Thank god this phone was cheap. That S9 keeps looking better and better.

tech_head said:
You are off base.
There are apps that can cause issues and no manufacturer can guarantee the performance of their device with any and all apps in the PlayStore.
There are apps that have memory leaks, wake events, etc. and there is no way for them to contain any/all errant apps, nor should they.
I suggest Greenify to look at app behavior and see what isn't sleeping and taking resources.
You can also look at the battery stats and see what app is burning battery.
Social media apps are typically bad.
Things like Pet Rescue and Candy Crush can also cause issues.
Make sure you limit which apps can do notifications and limit those to SMS and email apps.
Good luck.
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Thanks for your honesty. I'm giving greenify a shot though I still think a phone like this should not need something like this.
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InfDaMarvel said:
I am on 7.1.1, came here after searching google seeing if they'll ever do this android Oreo Update. I have some phantom touches on my touchscreen. Thank god this phone was cheap. That S9 keeps looking better and better.
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yes the Samsung will be issue free? dream on! no phone is issue free. I really like the essential and they are right you have to locate the bad app yourself.
because the open structure of android. app builders can really destroy the user experience on your phone.
if you don't want that? buy an iPhone.
for sure the app will destroy the performance of an s9 as well!

herwarth said:
yes the Samsung will be issue free? dream on! no phone is issue free. I really like the essential and they are right you have to locate the bad app yourself.
because the open structure of android. app builders can really destroy the user experience on your phone.
if you don't want that? buy an iPhone.
for sure the app will destroy the performance of an s9 as well!
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The touchscreen issue is related to hardware from what I can see and have read. Performance issues for me are related to memory management and the fact that I use a lot of memory hogging applications. Don't get me wrong just because your experience has been stellar the. I think it's a cool phone. Just not good enough for me to continue using it for another year. The Samsung...I specifically said the S9 because of extra ram and its top of the line screen. Which you can deny if you want but it's true. Best in class screen. They even make the iPhones screen. This phone was cheap so it was worth it for me because I enjoy tech regardless of the flaws. Just need that official oreo update!

InfDaMarvel said:
The touchscreen issue is related to hardware from what I can see and have read. Performance issues for me are related to memory management and the fact that I use a lot of memory hogging applications. Don't get me wrong just because your experience has been stellar the. I think it's a cool phone. Just not good enough for me to continue using it for another year. The Samsung...I specifically said the S9 because of extra ram and its top of the line screen. Which you can deny if you want but it's true. Best in class screen. They even make the iPhones screen. This phone was cheap so it was worth it for me because I enjoy tech regardless of the flaws. Just need that official oreo update!
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S9 is also 4 Gig RAM just like our PH-1, no extra RAM...

Jostian said:
S9 is also 4 Gig RAM just like our PH-1, no extra RAM...
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S9+ to be exact

InfDaMarvel said:
S9+ to be exact
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Yip S9+
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look I had the S8 and it was stellar, but was looking for some cash so sold my S8 for $620 and bought the PH-1 for $450, and I'm really impressed so far, ok sure I dont to rocket science etc on the phone so I'm a pretty light user, but on 7.1.1 its been superb since day 1, smooth, snappy and better battery than the S8.

Agreed with all above. Apps are the issue for any phone. I have a zoo of different makes & models. to compare. Social bs apps are the worst. Even google's own are bad enough. Just do a quick search on ""worst apps for draining battery" and start cleaning your phone.
PH-1 Oreo 8.1 power drain is almost nothing comparing to the rest of the 'stable' world. If you don't like to experiment, stay on stable 7.1 until 8.1 is released.

fungo45 said:
Thanks for your honesty. I'm giving greenify a shot though I still think a phone like this should not need something like this.
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Started using Greenify, but to work as intended, it requires you to set it as a Device Admin. When doing this, it disables the fingerprint sensor.

alkanaft said:
Agreed with all above. Apps are the issue for any phone. I have a zoo of different makes & models. to compare. Social bs apps are the worst. Even google's own are bad enough. Just do a quick search on ""worst apps for draining battery" and start cleaning your phone.
PH-1 Oreo 8.1 power drain is almost nothing comparing to the rest of the 'stable' world. If you don't like to experiment, stay on stable 7.1 until 8.1 is released.
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Yes, am in no rush to go to Oreo as 7.1.1 is so solid for me
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why not wait for the oneplus 6? all oneplus phones have tons of memory?

jusegozu said:
I would highly recommend testing the Oreo 8.1 beta. HUGE performance improvement
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Ditto here.My 7.1.1 was acting up.Oreo has been butter.Some nice tweaks built in as well.Pic in Pic is cool and useful.As is the floating dialer.

herwarth said:
why not wait for the oneplus 6? all oneplus phones have tons of memory?
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I'd say that RAM is not an issue here. The software causes phone performance to degrade. 8.1 works fine for me. Hardware itself in PH-1 is awesome. And price tag beats OnePlus and many others. ??

So far, the Oreo OTA update has been great. No issues like I had on Nougat. Hope this remains.

OEM skin/software

Are you comfortable in your own skin? Is your phone comfortable in its skin? Rate this thread to express how you deem the skin on the OnePlus 6. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it adds just the right amount of features, it's visually pleasing, and overall it's additive to the experience. If this is a Nexus phone (you didn't think we hand-wrote all of these prompts, did you?) then use this rating to indicate how the latest version of Android looks to you.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I find the OS overall to be buggy, outdated, featureless and overall full of patches and fixes that is now the OS that cracker jack built.
At this price point a far better OS is to be expected

floridaman said:
I find the OS overall to be buggy, outdated, featureless and overall full of patches and fixes that is now the OS that cracker jack built.
At this price point a far better OS is to be expected
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Then next time, buy a OnePlus phone instead of an iPhone :good:

floridaman said:
I find the OS overall to be buggy, outdated, featureless and overall full of patches and fixes that is now the OS that cracker jack built.
At this price point a far better OS is to be expected
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Have you tried to update your device to the latest version and then do a factory reset?

Donnie Sins said:
Then next time, buy a OnePlus phone instead of an iPhone :good:
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What are you babbling about? I have a OnePlus 6 already, this is posted to that thread. Reading along with reading comprehension works wonders before posting at a poor attempt at snark. No bugger off and wake up to yourself.
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Colday96 said:
Have you tried to update your device to the latest version and then do a factory reset?
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Yes, already had to do that because of not only regular issues that still persist but woke up one day where I kept getting warnings my entire storage was used even though I only have used about 5gb out of the 50+gb available. I've seen some postings of others having the same issue.
I still have issues with networking where it doesn't want to reconnect to the network after losing signal and I have to use the airplane mode on/off. It's a known issue to them and they told me they're still working on a fix even though they supposedly pushed one out in the last update.
I've in essence told them already they need to start from scratch with a new OS instead of patching this to work on one model to another which it clearly doesn't. I mean it doesn't even have a slider just for notifications volume, they told me it takes time to code for it. I said people have been complaining for one for 3 years, how much time does one need.
I feel this phone is all hype, great specs but no substance behind the hardware.

I have personally never had this problem and prefer OOS to Lineage, touchwiz and any aosp Rom. It is also very good with battery once you have the right configurations and if you turn down the time it takes for animations to 0.5 or 0.25x it just shows how extremely fast and snappy the device and how good in my opinion OOS is.

echo246 said:
I have personally never had this problem and prefer OOS to Lineage, touchwiz and any aosp Rom. It is also very good with battery once you have the right configurations and if you turn down the time it takes for animations to 0.5 or 0.25x it just shows how extremely fast and snappy the device and how good in my opinion OOS is.
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You should count yourself lucky, you haven't had the network problem like the rest of us because it is quite annoying.
I have no issue with the battery life, but then I don't clutter my phone with nonsensical apps either. I have no need to turn down the animations either, I have no complaints about it being "snappy and fast" but being snappy and fast has no bearing on the other issues within the software. You can make any phone snappy and fast, but the coding can still be a mess. And the phone does have a latency issue which is apparently even more noticeable in the 3rd beta as there were people complaining about it.
Touchwiz is just a joke and should not be used as a comparison to anything. To be honest I would rather go back to Asus and deal with their limited updates then this mess. No OS is without some problems somewhere, but at least Asus works correctly 90% of the time and is updated to 2018 instead of being an OS from 2012.

Or you can just do a fresh install of OOS 5.1.11 and unlock it and install xxxnolimits and radioactive kernel like me or flash lineage 15.1.

echo246 said:
Or you can just do a fresh install of OOS 5.1.11 and unlock it and install xxxnolimits and radioactive kernel like me or flash lineage 15.1.
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I've already done that, why do you keep telling me to do things like it's my first device?
I don't root and flash anymore, I want something that works when I hand over my money. I'm not loyal to any brand or a fanboy to any brand and if I see something I don't like I make it known, if it doesn't get fixed I walk with my money. The fact that every solution is install a 3rd party app or root your phone and install this or that is not a solution to the underlying problem. OP better step up or they'll go the way of the Blu phones, all hype in the beginning now they're not even a blip on the radar.
If having to flash this or that, install this and that works for you on this device, that's great it however doesn't for me. But that just tells me because you've had to do all that, the OS isn't really up to par. Good luck with your phone and I'm happy you're happy with it.

Seems like you just got unlucky
I have the 128gb 8gb variant and I think you mentioned you had the 64gb variant. I was just trying to help sorry I couldn't.

floridaman said:
What are you babbling about? I have a OnePlus 6 already, this is posted to that thread. Reading along with reading comprehension works wonders before posting at a poor attempt at snark. No bugger off and wake up to yourself.
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Relax, it wasn't meant as bad as it may look Just kidding. Sorry to hear you have such problems, my device performs just excellent.

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Yes, already had to do that because of not only regular issues that still persist but woke up one day where I kept getting warnings my entire storage was used even though I only have used about 5gb out of the 50+gb available. I've seen some postings of others having the same issue.
I still have issues with networking where it doesn't want to reconnect to the network after losing signal and I have to use the airplane mode on/off. It's a known issue to them and they told me they're still working on a fix even though they supposedly pushed one out in the last update.
I've in essence told them already they need to start from scratch with a new OS instead of patching this to work on one model to another which it clearly doesn't. I mean it doesn't even have a slider just for notifications volume, they told me it takes time to code for it. I said people have been complaining for one for 3 years, how much time does one need.
I feel this phone is all hype, great specs but no substance behind the hardware.
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Although I root my devices day one and have no issues with my OP6 I totally agree with you.
I maintained buggy devices before. Customer supports standard answer is factory reset. Community answer is root and flash or install this or that. Out of the box many devices from different brands have lots of issues where I wonder how this could pass quality check. Loosing signal/ reconnecting issues for mobile and wifi, buggy silent mode, any pre installed (mostly the launcher) force closes, etc.
People keep asking me why I root my devices, what the benefit is. While some thinks are a real benefit (twrp, titanium backup, enhanced settings, ...) other mods are just there to overdraw the main rom bugs. And they become more.

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I've already done that, why do you keep telling me to do things like it's my first device?
I don't root and flash anymore, I want something that works when I hand over my money. I'm not loyal to any brand or a fanboy to any brand and if I see something I don't like I make it known, if it doesn't get fixed I walk with my money. The fact that every solution is install a 3rd party app or root your phone and install this or that is not a solution to the underlying problem. OP better step up or they'll go the way of the Blu phones, all hype in the beginning now they're not even a blip on the radar.
If having to flash this or that, install this and that works for you on this device, that's great it however doesn't for me. But that just tells me because you've had to do all that, the OS isn't really up to par. Good luck with your phone and I'm happy you're happy with it.
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Maybe because the problems you are mentioning are issues people that don't know what they are doing tend to have and the people that root and start installing stuff that can't read instructions properly. Honestly the problems you mention are rookie issues and or Fan Boys of other phones (Iphone anyone) and troll.
The OS is just fine. The OP5 and now the OP6 are the first android phones I've never had to install a custom ROM for. I root for TiBu and to install root apps. I also install a Kernel to increase vibration sensitivity and max volume levels. Buttery smooth, insane battery life and no complaints.

I'm running the OP6 64gb as well, and I've never had issues with the OS. It's pretty bare-bones (like it should be), since it opens the possibility to update to new OS updates extremely fast.
I've had high-end Samsung, LG, Sony, HTC, Xiaomi and Huawei, and so far OnePlus have been AMAZINGLY quick on updates and fixes for issues at hand.

The best I have seen so far really enjoy the dark mode option(both on my old oneplus 5)
The audio tuner is amazing with my headphones (classic with Sennheiser hd25)
feel a little smoother than my Oneplus 5 with Oxygen 9.03 but I its maybe a placebo
For improve I want more option for the file manager (smb 3 compatibility pls)
More widget out of the box weather and location especially
and change the design of the weather app
its look a little outdated

floridaman said:
What are you babbling about? I have a OnePlus 6 already, this is posted to that thread. Reading along with reading comprehension works wonders before posting at a poor attempt at snark. No bugger off and wake up to yourself.
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Yes, already had to do that because of not only regular issues that still persist but woke up one day where I kept getting warnings my entire storage was used even though I only have used about 5gb out of the 50+gb available. I've seen some postings of others having the same issue.
I still have issues with networking where it doesn't want to reconnect to the network after losing signal and I have to use the airplane mode on/off. It's a known issue to them and they told me they're still working on a fix even though they supposedly pushed one out in the last update.
I've in essence told them already they need to start from scratch with a new OS instead of patching this to work on one model to another which it clearly doesn't. I mean it doesn't even have a slider just for notifications volume, they told me it takes time to code for it. I said people have been complaining for one for 3 years, how much time does one need.
I feel this phone is all hype, great specs but no substance behind the hardware.
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True

floridaman said:
I find the OS overall to be buggy, outdated, featureless and overall full of patches and fixes that is now the OS that cracker jack built.
At this price point a far better OS is to be expected
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Hold on Guy.. Stop being Salty..

CYB3R0ID694 said:
Hold on Guy.. Stop being Salty..
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Hold yourself, stop being a twit

floridaman said:
Hold yourself, stop being a twit
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THEN WHAT ABOUT BUILD OWN OS & FIX THINGS BY OWN..
OR
HELP DEVELOPERS BY GIVING FEEDBACK & PROVIDING LOGCAT?
SOUNDS FUN?? ISN'T IT? :silly:

Donnie Sins said:
Then next time, buy a OnePlus phone instead of an iPhone :good:
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MIUI 10 Real Life Review + Looking For New ROM

Disclaimer and Obligatory Background: I'm posting this here because the Discussions section seems the most appropriate one for this post. Mods are welcome to move/relocate the post if they see fit. I work in PR (Marketing/Social Media/Content Creation) and spend most of my days on the phone. Therefore, I consider myself a heavy user. You should read the following review with that in mind.
I've been using MIUI 10 (10.2.2.0 EU) for about three weeks now as my daily driver. The mod is a decent attempt by the MIUI team to bring MIUI 10 to the A2/6X but not the best out there considering the 6X should run on MIUI to begin with. Keep in mind that MIUI 10 is still under development and things may change at a moment's notice. This account of my experience is only valid at the time of writing and I won't consider myself responsible of what you do with your phone after you've read it. Now that we're good with all of that, let's take a look at what works and what I think would benefit from a bit more attention.
What Works
Phone/Data/Basic Coms: Everything that concerns your day-to-day phoning habits works well. I haven't encountered any of the issues mentioned on the forum when it comes to volumes, coverage, call quality or loss of data. MIUI 10 re-introduces call recording which might be a useful feature for some but I haven't had the chance/need to test it out for myself.
Swipe Gestures: the iPhone-like navigation gestures are actually a welcome addition to the ROM - at least in my opinion. Coming from Android One it took me a bit of time to get used to the new thing and I still accidentally archive e-mails on Gmail when I'm trying to close the app every now and then but the gestures do make your life simpler once you learn how to use them and I know they're one of the few things I'll miss if I ever go back to OTA.
Battery Life: battery performances seem pretty much the same I had back on Android One and the phone withstands heavy usage quite well. I might need to plug it in at the end of a particularly busy day - especially if I've had a particularly long call or spent a lot of time managing social media/taking pictures but MIUI 10 never left me stranded during the day, which is a great improvement over older versions of this OS. I am not sure MIUI 10 features adaptive battery tbh.
Scrolling Screenshots: this is actually one of the features that encouraged me to try MIUI 10 and I must say I'm satisfied with the results. For those of you who haven't tried them yet, scrolling screenshots essentially let you keep capturing portions of the screen that are not visible the moment you hit the screenshot button. They're great if you're trying to save an entire email convo or a Twitter/Forum thread.
Memory Management: Memory and performances are pretty much the same I've had on Android One. On a good day, the phone (6GB version) would have about 3.2/3.3 GB free ram with the OS + Twitter, Discord, Instagram, Mi Fit, Messenger, and Telegram locked into memory. I do miss not having to manually open the recents drawer and close whatever I'm not using to free up space but the phone still performed quite well. What I will mention is that quick apps (or whatever the MIUI "no more waiting to open apps" system is called) would crash on me every once in a while but, hey, I can live with that.
What Needs Improvements
Camera: the camera on MIUI 10 is abysmal; there is no other way to describe it. Especially when it comes to video, the overall quality of what the stock camera app can produce is miles below what the hardware is actually capable of. Video turns out to be noisy even in decent lighting conditions and look as if they were taken with a cheap phone rather than the dual camera that this device comes with. 4k recording is useless if the resulting file is peppered with artefacts and remains unusable. The situation is slightly better with photos. The AI does help with taking HD pictures outdoor but the whole thing still left me wanting for more. Of course one could try unlocking camera2api and installing a gcamera mod but that could be done on just about any ROM and wouldn't be a reason I'd go with MIUI over stock. Plus, camera2api would randomly deactivate itself every once in a while, even when activated following the so-called permanent method that's available here on xda.
Wi-Fi: I've noticed consistent drops in wifi since I switched to MIUI. The ROM would show full WIFI bars only to decide the connection wasn't strong enough and switch over to data in the middle of whatever you were doing; an approach that might end up costing you a lot if you're roaming or streaming HQ video when MIUI decides your data radio is being underutilized and deserves some love STAT! This has happened on multiple routers, in different conditions and at different distances from the router/wifi antenna, making me think that the issue might lie with the ROM rather than the WIFI I was connected to.
Bluetooth: Similarly to WIFI, bluetooth also seems to have a few problems on MIUI 10. I never experienced a full disconnection but using bluetooth headphones to listen to music as I was walking/working out often resulted in the music stuttering. There are a few settings you can toy around with in the dev settings section of the ROM and I've done that but the issue was never really solved in its entirety.
What Doesn't Work At All
Screen Recording: If you're thinking of switching to MIUI to escape Google's idiotic idea that system sound shouldn't be included with the recordings of what's going on on your screen anymore, just don't bother. While the MIUI screen recorder app does allow for system audio to be captured, the audio quality is just too low to make the actual recording useful for anything more than amateur hour. Sound stutters and is often out of sync, resulting in files that you simply can't use for professional purposes. If you really need system audio for a presentation, a gameplay video or an app review, you're better off investing 20 bucks in a decent USB to jack dongle and using an AUX cable to connect your phone to a PC with audacity. Which, by the way, is also how you would do that on any android phones nowadays.
MIUI Bloatware: I've had it with these motherf***ing apps asking me for a MIUI account, even on the de-bloated EU version of MIUI. I'm not interested in a China-based cloud service that I know nothing of and I don't want to log into MIUI just to report a bug. You've asked me already, stop doing that now!
A few things I'd like to add: The support from MIUI when it comes to MIUI 10 is meh. They do have their own dedicated forum and are pretty active here on XDA but the threads are usually flooded by sub-humans spamming requests for a port to their devices and most of the people that lurk the Xiaomi site have a pretty low command of the English language. I'm not saying I was expecting top-notch support for a free piece of software but that might piss some of the less patient among us off. Most of the bugs I've discussed in this thread were already reported months ago and were either ignored or acknowledged but never fixed.
That said, I'm now looking for a new ROM to avoid going back to OTA Android One. I would need something that's at least as performant as stock Android One and whose camera can take decent pictures/photos. I've heard that camera2api is active by default on roms like LineageOS but it seems the only LOS version I could find is an unofficial port that I'm afraid will never get constant updates. Any kind of pointer or suggestion is more than welcome here!

Buy a Mi 9.

stevedat said:
Buy a Mi 9.
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What's the point of this answer? Had I asked for a new model to buy, I would understand your suggestion for a Mi 9... but why waste the time to type out your sentence when it clearly adds nothing of value to the conversation?
Just to be clear, I'm perfectly okay with going back to stock and manually activating camera2api if no better solution is available. Hardware-wise, the A2 is a pretty capable phone; no reason to change it. I'm merely wondering whether the community is willing to share their opinion on a solid ROM to use for it.

Alecossy said:
What's the point of this answer? Had I asked for a new model to buy, I would understand your suggestion for a Mi 9... but why waste the time to type out your sentence when it clearly adds nothing of value to the conversation?
Just to be clear, I'm perfectly okay with going back to stock and manually activating camera2api if no better solution is available. Hardware-wise, the A2 is a pretty capable phone; no reason to change it. I'm merely wondering whether the community is willing to share their opinion on a solid ROM to use for it.
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... so, you want a mi a2/6x hardware to produce an outstanding performance and top list photo quality captures, with a rock solid free-offer ROM.
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stevedat said:
... so, you want a mi a2/6x hardware to produce an outstanding performance and top list photo quality captures, with a rock solid free-offer ROM.
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The Mi A2 already produces quality photos and yields solid performances on OTA. Let me try to rephrase/dumb down that question for you:
"On MIUI, not liking it rn. Anything else I should try before I go back to stock?"

Havoc OS is pretty damn stable option, everything just works. I've never returned to stock since installing it. Had the odd dabble with other roms etc but i always find myself back to Havoc.
Of course its all personal preference really, but Havoc for my usage is the all round most stable. Give a bash and find out for yourself!

Alecossy said:
The Mi A2 already produces quality photos and yields solid performances on OTA. Let me try to rephrase/dumb down that question for you:
"On MIUI, not liking it rn. Anything else I should try before I go back to stock?"
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I have heard it first from you. I guess it'll be last. Mi 6X or MiUi is much better in many ways than Mi A2 or stock Android one. Be it camera, battery backup or the overall experience. Only a handful of Mi 6X users are using custom Rom as they are satisfied with the stock. Relatively a large portions of Mi A2 users are using custom Rom. Why? Ask yourself.

The choice of rom always depends on your need. If u want a rock stable rom, then I suggest you to try LOS or AICP. If u want to customize as much as possible and want many features,then you should give Havoc, RR or crdroid a try.
I personally use Havoc. It's quiet stable which is impressive for the amount of features.

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I have heard it first from you. I guess it'll be last. Mi 6X or MiUi is much better in many ways than Mi A2 or stock Android one. Be it camera, battery backup or the overall experience. Only a handful of Mi 6X users are using custom Rom as they are satisfied with the stock. Relatively a large portions of Mi A2 users are using custom Rom. Why? Ask yourself.
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Let's see what my reasons for not liking MIUI 10 are: inability to update from OTA without having to lock yourself into MIUI forever, camera quality (which - you can try to deny it - but has long been an issue with MIUI), the risk of bricking your phone if you mess up updates, the simple fact I want to test different options before I settle on a final ROM for a phone I use for more than just watching YouTube videos and jerking off; is that enough for you or should I look for more?
Plus, what's wrong with you MIUI fanboys anyway? A man can't ask for an opinion without the MIUI cavalry coming to the rescue of their beloved OS?
Just loosen up a bit, it's not like I'm asking you people to modify your own devices. As someone else said in here, the best mod for you depends on the use you make of your phone. I guess I'm going to try Havoc and then decide whether I like it more than the stock experience!

if you like miui try rom from xiaomi. eu... is mine daily driver as i liked more miui from android one and ghe bugs you said just no exist

Alecossy said:
Let's see what my reasons for not liking MIUI 10 are: inability to update from OTA without having to lock yourself into MIUI forever, camera quality (which - you can try to deny it - but has long been an issue with MIUI), the risk of bricking your phone if you mess up updates, the simple fact I want to test different options before I settle on a final ROM for a phone I use for more than just watching YouTube videos and jerking off; is that enough for you or should I look for more?
Plus, what's wrong with you MIUI fanboys anyway? A man can't ask for an opinion without the MIUI cavalry coming to the rescue of their beloved OS?
Just loosen up a bit, it's not like I'm asking you people to modify your own devices. As someone else said in here, the best mod for you depends on the use you make of your phone. I guess I'm going to try Havoc and then decide whether I like it more than the stock experience!
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Yes you can test whatever you want. But what you are saying about MiUi is pure wrong. Some uninformed guesses I think. I won't entertain you on all the matter you have described. Just make a poll of Mi A2 camera vs Mi 6X camera. Better make a poll of Mi A2 vs Mi 6X. Or you may find some information already before creating a poll. Search XDA.

I think that we better stop agruing about it. It leads to nothing that we can learn or play with. Love Miui 10 just use it; Hate Miui 10 just don't use it.
Want it better huh, go to feedback place or email to the developer team.
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