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Nexus 4 on Android 4.1

Anyone tried flashing v. 4.1 on Nexus 4? Perhaps it might be more battery efficient?

furyoflight1029 said:
Anyone tried flashing v. 4.1 on Nexus 4? Perhaps it might be more battery efficient?
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Cupcake and Donut had the best batterylife :silly:

you not getting great battery life?, the nexus 4 is great with JB, try franco kernel for improvement, i got an extra 1.5 hours screen time due to it.

Nexus 4 only supports 4.2 and upwards

Find a 2.1 ROM for the Nexus One and flash it to the Nexus 4. The battery life will blow your mind.
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I'm indeed getting a pretty good battery life on 4.2.2. I'm getting an average of 4 hours + screen on time, which is a huge improvement over my S2. It's just that the video playback/web browsing seems less efficient, in comparison to the Optimus G which has similar hardware.

Flash cupcake, bricks usually get pretty good battery life.
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plznote said:
Flash cupcake, bricks usually get pretty good battery life.
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pretty sure it does. battery life will probably last forever.

furyoflight1029 said:
I'm indeed getting a pretty good battery life on 4.2.2. I'm getting an average of 4 hours + screen on time, which is a huge improvement over my S2. It's just that the video playback/web browsing seems less efficient, in comparison to the Optimus G which has similar hardware.
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Your logic is painfully flawed. A completely different group of engineers/software designers created the software for the Optimus G. IF it is indeed more "efficient," (which, by the way, where is your evidence?) it is NOT due to the version of Android used. They simply spent more time optimizing the libs and apks for the hardware. Again, that's a big IF.

estallings15 said:
Your logic is painfully flawed. A completely different group of engineers/software designers created the software for the Optimus G. IF it is indeed more "efficient," (which, by the way, where is your evidence?) it is NOT due to the version of Android used. They simply spent more time optimizing the libs and apks for the hardware. Again, that's a big IF.
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It has been proven multiple times that the optimus g and other devices with similar hardware have way better battery life than the nexus 4. just look for some battery benchmarks.
Furthermore, 4.2 seems more resource heavy than 4.1 was, which again leads to a higher CPU, along with other stuff, usage, which in the end results in worse battery life.
Whatever it is, there is a difference between the optimus g and the nexus 4.

estallings15 said:
Your logic is painfully flawed. A completely different group of engineers/software designers created the software for the Optimus G. IF it is indeed more "efficient," (which, by the way, where is your evidence?) it is NOT due to the version of Android used. They simply spent more time optimizing the libs and apks for the hardware. Again, that's a big IF.
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First of all, I was only giving an opinion; i did say "seems", did i not? I don't need to prove anything to you, because it has already been proven. Search endurance rating for both phones. You make it sound like I was trying to start an argument, well, I'm not. I only wanted to know, the so called "IF" it will actually improve battery life. Seeing that you're an active member of this forum, I assumed you would know, that Android version used does indeed affect battery life. If you're not posting anything helpful (like the few peeps above, for the sake of trolling), then please don't.

Nuu~ said:
just look for some battery benchmarks.
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You would be terrible as a lawyer. You're the one trying to prove a case here.. You submit evidence to your peers for review when trying to prove your case. You don't instruct them to go hunting for the evidence for you. It really eliminates this whole back and forth thing if you just put all your cards out of the table at once. If the cards don't exist then let's just let this issue rest eh? In the end no one cares anyway..

styckx said:
You would be terrible as a lawyer. You're the one trying to prove a case here.. You submit evidence to your peers for review when trying to prove your case. You don't instruct them to go hunting for the evidence for you. It really eliminates this whole back and forth thing if you just put all your cards out of the table at once. If the cards don't exist then let's just let this issue rest eh? In the end no one cares anyway..
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I'm not a lawyer and this isn't a lawsuit. I don't have to prove anything to anyone.
I stated that there are enough evidences out there which can be found easily with a simple Google search. If someone is interested in refuting my statements, he can go ahead and do so. I'm not going to spoonfeed everything.

I am getting 5 hours On Screen time, consistently. Overall battery life anywhere from 11 -14 hours total on busy workdays, to 15 - 24 hours on light days.
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Yeah, I have no clue why you would be needing better battery life out of this phone. On 4.2.2 I get all day and then some with lots of screen on time. I don't even have to worry about making it through the day with this phone. For the record, there is not going to be a kernel for the Nexus 4 that is compatible with anything lower than 4.2 so it's a futile effort to begin with. You could flash anything you wanted to your phone and then bask in the glory that is a soft-bricked phone. Like someone said above, a bricked device tends to get great battery life!

Zorachus said:
I am getting 5 hours On Screen time, consistently. Overall battery life anywhere from 11 -14 hours total on busy workdays, to 15 - 24 hours on light days.
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ROM? Kernel? Please
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nschiwy said:
Yeah, I have no clue why you would be needing better battery life out of this phone. On 4.2.2 I get all day and then some with lots of screen on time. I don't even have to worry about making it through the day with this phone. For the record, there is not going to be a kernel for the Nexus 4 that is compatible with anything lower than 4.2 so it's a futile effort to begin with. You could flash anything you wanted to your phone and then bask in the glory that is a soft-bricked phone. Like someone said above, a bricked device tends to get great battery life!
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Look, why did you get a Nexus phone to begin with? Updates. What are updates? Improvement. Yes, it can last a day but it depends on you do. It's quite acceptable, until you try streaming movies. 1% gone per min. I know video playback isn't its strongest point but isn't it good to know you're not stuck in only one direction? Knowing that there are alternatives? Isn't that what this forum was meant for?

furyoflight1029 said:
Look, why did you get a Nexus phone to begin with? Updates. What are updates? Improvement. Yes, it can last a day but it depends on you do. It's quite acceptable, until you try streaming movies. 1% gone per min. I know video playback isn't its strongest point but isn't it good to know you're not stuck in only one direction? Knowing that there are alternatives? Isn't that what this forum was meant for?
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I'm sorry but regardless of how you try to justify it, downgrading isn't the answer to your problem. If you want to get better battery life out of your device (and I do understand that if you're watching a lot of Netflix on it that you would need more battery) then you're going to want to flash a custom ROM or Kernel or both. Franco.kernel is probably the most efficient kernel for stock. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002782 ) Like I said before, there isn't a kernel that exists for the Nexus 4 that will run with 4.1 so you may as well explore other options. I guess the reason everyone here is being so sarcastic and everything is that it's such a noobish question and yet everyone is seemingly defending it to the death. There's nothing wrong with asking questions but you shouldn't argue with people who are more informed than yourself.

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I'm sorry but regardless of how you try to justify it, downgrading isn't the answer to your problem. If you want to get better battery life out of your device (and I do understand that if you're watching a lot of Netflix on it that you would need more battery) then you're going to want to flash a custom ROM or Kernel or both. Franco.kernel is probably the most efficient kernel for stock. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002782 ) Like I said before, there isn't a kernel that exists for the Nexus 4 that will run with 4.1 so you may as well explore other options. I guess the reason everyone here is being so sarcastic and everything is that it's such a noobish question and yet everyone is seemingly defending it to the death. There's nothing wrong with asking questions but you shouldn't argue with people who are more informed than yourself.
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I was aware of the fact that older versions are incompatible, which was why I joked too. But, I'm not aware of whether 4.1 would be compatible since it's still relatively new. I think you misunderstood, I wasn't defending the title; simply arguing with some of the things people said, like estallings15 and you. You may be more knowledgeable about this than I'm, but by no means, would i have to agree that searching for new ways, to improve my battery life is bad.

XupModz said:
ROM? Kernel? Please
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Just checked my stays right now. 5h 32m On Screen time. Total time off charger 12 hours. Battery at 19%
I get 5h + On Screen time every day.
Xylon ROM 02-23 build + Matrix kernel v7.0
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Suggestions about the phone please.....

Hi guys!!!Only two questions.....i have the galaxy s6 flat and i want to sell it and buy this phone.....what do you think about that?And also can you suggest me a good,stable and fast rom for this phone?Thanks a lot guys!!

Flamehell said:
Hi guys!!!Only two questions.....i have the galaxy s6 flat and i want to sell it and buy this phone.....what do you think about that?And also can you suggest me a good,stable and fast rom for this phone?Thanks a lot guys!!
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Hey there! Well I had an S6 last year and I sold it mainly for 2 reasons: 1) Awful battery life. And 2) Because I got used to onscreen buttons (I had an LG G3 before the S6) and I just couldn't go back to a physical home button lol.
As far as battery life, my personal opinion and experience is that the 6P is a LOT better than the S6. Even out of the box, without tweaking it that much. Now if you get a custom kernel and you tweak that then even better.
As far as custom roms go, I've only tried two, Pure Nexus and Chroma and they are both very stable, haven't had any issues with them. So that could be a good place to start and then maybe if you want get a custom kernel too.
This is my first Nexus phone and I've been having a lot of fun tweaking it, playing with root, different roms, kernels, things I never did with my previous phones but with this one I took the plunge. The people here at XDA are extremely talented and always willing to help.
Hope this helps you

Rocio19 said:
Hey there! Well I had an S6 last year and I sold it mainly for 2 reasons: 1) Awful battery life. And 2) Because I got used to onscreen buttons (I had an LG G3 before the S6) and I just couldn't go back to a physical home button lol.
As far as battery life, my personal opinion and experience is that the 6P is a LOT better than the S6. Even out of the box, without tweaking it that much. Now if you get a custom kernel and you tweak that then even better.
As far as custom roms go, I've only tried two, Pure Nexus and Chroma and they are both very stable, haven't had any issues with them. So that could be a good place to start and then maybe if you want get a custom kernel too.
This is my first Nexus phone and I've been having a lot of fun tweaking it, playing with root, different roms, kernels, things I never did with my previous phones but with this one I took the plunge. The people here at XDA are extremely talented and always willing to help.
Hope this helps you
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Tnx a lot mate!!!so i think that you are suggest me to change it for the 6p right?i m a little bit scarried about the bending problem of this phone....is that true that it s easy to bend it?
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Flamehell said:
Tnx a lot mate!!!so i think that you are suggest me to change it for the 6p right?i m a little bit scarried about the bending problem of this phone....is that true that it s easy to bend it?
I can't give you a very informed opinion on that one honestly. All I can tell you is that mine hasn't experienced any bending issues, I use it with a dbrand skin and no case.
I've seen in several places that the issue got blown out of proportion, but I can't be sure just how many people have been affected by that. So maybe search here to see people's opinions
As far as switching from the S6 to the 6P, I say hell YES, do it! Don't think you'll be disappointed. I never looked back.
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Definitely the Nexus6 P and XDA is a win!

Getting frustrated with poor performance

I see others are having issues with the phone being sluggish and freezing - requiring a forced restart. I've had these issues since day one, but the phone is just so damn beautiful to stop using.
I've tried everything I have seen on this site including factory resets and manually adding apps back in (in lieu of restoring from Google). Still happens.
I've been emailing back and forth with Essential customer service, and while they're responsive, I'm getting frustrated.
They asked me to use it in Safe Mode for a couple days, and I had no issues. So they concluded it's an app causing the problem. So they want me to do another factory reset, and then add apps back one at a time for a few days to see if I can pinpoint which app(s) are causing the issue. I have 100+ apps on the phone - this will take months to do!
My comment to them (that they didn't appreciate) is that if they want to compete with the flagship phones of other OEM's the phone should be able to handle any app you you throw at is, and I have no issues with my ZTE Axon 7 running the exact same apps.
Am I off base here? Any other suggestions?

fungo45 said:
I see others are having issues with the phone being sluggish and freezing - requiring a forced restart. I've had these issues since say one, but the phone is just so damn beautiful to stop using.
I've tried everything I have seen on this site including factory resets and manually adding apps back in (in lieu of restoring from Google). Still happens.
I've been emailing back and forth with Essential customer service, and while they're responsive, I'm getting frustrated.
They asked me to use it in Safe Mode for a couple days, and I had no issues. So they concluded it's an app causing the problem. So they want me to do another factory reset, and then add apps back one at a time for a few days to see if I can pinpoint which app(s) are causing the issue. I have 100+ apps on the phone - this will take months to do!
My comment to them (that they didn't appreciate) is that if they want to compete with the flagship phones of other OEM's the phone should be able to handle any app you you throw at is, and I have no issues with my ZTE Axon 7 running the exact same apps.
Am I off base here? Any other suggestions?
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You are off base.
There are apps that can cause issues and no manufacturer can guarantee the performance of their device with any and all apps in the PlayStore.
There are apps that have memory leaks, wake events, etc. and there is no way for them to contain any/all errant apps, nor should they.
I suggest Greenify to look at app behavior and see what isn't sleeping and taking resources.
You can also look at the battery stats and see what app is burning battery.
Social media apps are typically bad.
Things like Pet Rescue and Candy Crush can also cause issues.
Make sure you limit which apps can do notifications and limit those to SMS and email apps.
Good luck.

I would highly recommend testing the Oreo 8.1 beta. HUGE performance improvement

I've been running N 7.1.1 since I got the phone 2 weeks ago and the performance has been stellar, scrolling is smooth and fast, no freezes at all, after reading the issues with 8.1 beta (battery drain, wifi etc.) I'm in no rush to upgrade....

I am on 7.1.1, came here after searching google seeing if they'll ever do this android Oreo Update. I have some phantom touches on my touchscreen. Thank god this phone was cheap. That S9 keeps looking better and better.

tech_head said:
You are off base.
There are apps that can cause issues and no manufacturer can guarantee the performance of their device with any and all apps in the PlayStore.
There are apps that have memory leaks, wake events, etc. and there is no way for them to contain any/all errant apps, nor should they.
I suggest Greenify to look at app behavior and see what isn't sleeping and taking resources.
You can also look at the battery stats and see what app is burning battery.
Social media apps are typically bad.
Things like Pet Rescue and Candy Crush can also cause issues.
Make sure you limit which apps can do notifications and limit those to SMS and email apps.
Good luck.
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Thanks for your honesty. I'm giving greenify a shot though I still think a phone like this should not need something like this.
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InfDaMarvel said:
I am on 7.1.1, came here after searching google seeing if they'll ever do this android Oreo Update. I have some phantom touches on my touchscreen. Thank god this phone was cheap. That S9 keeps looking better and better.
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yes the Samsung will be issue free? dream on! no phone is issue free. I really like the essential and they are right you have to locate the bad app yourself.
because the open structure of android. app builders can really destroy the user experience on your phone.
if you don't want that? buy an iPhone.
for sure the app will destroy the performance of an s9 as well!

herwarth said:
yes the Samsung will be issue free? dream on! no phone is issue free. I really like the essential and they are right you have to locate the bad app yourself.
because the open structure of android. app builders can really destroy the user experience on your phone.
if you don't want that? buy an iPhone.
for sure the app will destroy the performance of an s9 as well!
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The touchscreen issue is related to hardware from what I can see and have read. Performance issues for me are related to memory management and the fact that I use a lot of memory hogging applications. Don't get me wrong just because your experience has been stellar the. I think it's a cool phone. Just not good enough for me to continue using it for another year. The Samsung...I specifically said the S9 because of extra ram and its top of the line screen. Which you can deny if you want but it's true. Best in class screen. They even make the iPhones screen. This phone was cheap so it was worth it for me because I enjoy tech regardless of the flaws. Just need that official oreo update!

InfDaMarvel said:
The touchscreen issue is related to hardware from what I can see and have read. Performance issues for me are related to memory management and the fact that I use a lot of memory hogging applications. Don't get me wrong just because your experience has been stellar the. I think it's a cool phone. Just not good enough for me to continue using it for another year. The Samsung...I specifically said the S9 because of extra ram and its top of the line screen. Which you can deny if you want but it's true. Best in class screen. They even make the iPhones screen. This phone was cheap so it was worth it for me because I enjoy tech regardless of the flaws. Just need that official oreo update!
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S9 is also 4 Gig RAM just like our PH-1, no extra RAM...

Jostian said:
S9 is also 4 Gig RAM just like our PH-1, no extra RAM...
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S9+ to be exact

InfDaMarvel said:
S9+ to be exact
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Yip S9+
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look I had the S8 and it was stellar, but was looking for some cash so sold my S8 for $620 and bought the PH-1 for $450, and I'm really impressed so far, ok sure I dont to rocket science etc on the phone so I'm a pretty light user, but on 7.1.1 its been superb since day 1, smooth, snappy and better battery than the S8.

Agreed with all above. Apps are the issue for any phone. I have a zoo of different makes & models. to compare. Social bs apps are the worst. Even google's own are bad enough. Just do a quick search on ""worst apps for draining battery" and start cleaning your phone.
PH-1 Oreo 8.1 power drain is almost nothing comparing to the rest of the 'stable' world. If you don't like to experiment, stay on stable 7.1 until 8.1 is released.

fungo45 said:
Thanks for your honesty. I'm giving greenify a shot though I still think a phone like this should not need something like this.
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Started using Greenify, but to work as intended, it requires you to set it as a Device Admin. When doing this, it disables the fingerprint sensor.

alkanaft said:
Agreed with all above. Apps are the issue for any phone. I have a zoo of different makes & models. to compare. Social bs apps are the worst. Even google's own are bad enough. Just do a quick search on ""worst apps for draining battery" and start cleaning your phone.
PH-1 Oreo 8.1 power drain is almost nothing comparing to the rest of the 'stable' world. If you don't like to experiment, stay on stable 7.1 until 8.1 is released.
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Yes, am in no rush to go to Oreo as 7.1.1 is so solid for me
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why not wait for the oneplus 6? all oneplus phones have tons of memory?

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I would highly recommend testing the Oreo 8.1 beta. HUGE performance improvement
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Ditto here.My 7.1.1 was acting up.Oreo has been butter.Some nice tweaks built in as well.Pic in Pic is cool and useful.As is the floating dialer.

herwarth said:
why not wait for the oneplus 6? all oneplus phones have tons of memory?
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I'd say that RAM is not an issue here. The software causes phone performance to degrade. 8.1 works fine for me. Hardware itself in PH-1 is awesome. And price tag beats OnePlus and many others. ??

So far, the Oreo OTA update has been great. No issues like I had on Nougat. Hope this remains.

OEM skin/software

Are you comfortable in your own skin? Is your phone comfortable in its skin? Rate this thread to express how you deem the skin on the OnePlus 6. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it adds just the right amount of features, it's visually pleasing, and overall it's additive to the experience. If this is a Nexus phone (you didn't think we hand-wrote all of these prompts, did you?) then use this rating to indicate how the latest version of Android looks to you.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I find the OS overall to be buggy, outdated, featureless and overall full of patches and fixes that is now the OS that cracker jack built.
At this price point a far better OS is to be expected

floridaman said:
I find the OS overall to be buggy, outdated, featureless and overall full of patches and fixes that is now the OS that cracker jack built.
At this price point a far better OS is to be expected
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Then next time, buy a OnePlus phone instead of an iPhone :good:

floridaman said:
I find the OS overall to be buggy, outdated, featureless and overall full of patches and fixes that is now the OS that cracker jack built.
At this price point a far better OS is to be expected
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Have you tried to update your device to the latest version and then do a factory reset?

Donnie Sins said:
Then next time, buy a OnePlus phone instead of an iPhone :good:
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What are you babbling about? I have a OnePlus 6 already, this is posted to that thread. Reading along with reading comprehension works wonders before posting at a poor attempt at snark. No bugger off and wake up to yourself.
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Have you tried to update your device to the latest version and then do a factory reset?
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Yes, already had to do that because of not only regular issues that still persist but woke up one day where I kept getting warnings my entire storage was used even though I only have used about 5gb out of the 50+gb available. I've seen some postings of others having the same issue.
I still have issues with networking where it doesn't want to reconnect to the network after losing signal and I have to use the airplane mode on/off. It's a known issue to them and they told me they're still working on a fix even though they supposedly pushed one out in the last update.
I've in essence told them already they need to start from scratch with a new OS instead of patching this to work on one model to another which it clearly doesn't. I mean it doesn't even have a slider just for notifications volume, they told me it takes time to code for it. I said people have been complaining for one for 3 years, how much time does one need.
I feel this phone is all hype, great specs but no substance behind the hardware.

I have personally never had this problem and prefer OOS to Lineage, touchwiz and any aosp Rom. It is also very good with battery once you have the right configurations and if you turn down the time it takes for animations to 0.5 or 0.25x it just shows how extremely fast and snappy the device and how good in my opinion OOS is.

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I have personally never had this problem and prefer OOS to Lineage, touchwiz and any aosp Rom. It is also very good with battery once you have the right configurations and if you turn down the time it takes for animations to 0.5 or 0.25x it just shows how extremely fast and snappy the device and how good in my opinion OOS is.
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You should count yourself lucky, you haven't had the network problem like the rest of us because it is quite annoying.
I have no issue with the battery life, but then I don't clutter my phone with nonsensical apps either. I have no need to turn down the animations either, I have no complaints about it being "snappy and fast" but being snappy and fast has no bearing on the other issues within the software. You can make any phone snappy and fast, but the coding can still be a mess. And the phone does have a latency issue which is apparently even more noticeable in the 3rd beta as there were people complaining about it.
Touchwiz is just a joke and should not be used as a comparison to anything. To be honest I would rather go back to Asus and deal with their limited updates then this mess. No OS is without some problems somewhere, but at least Asus works correctly 90% of the time and is updated to 2018 instead of being an OS from 2012.

Or you can just do a fresh install of OOS 5.1.11 and unlock it and install xxxnolimits and radioactive kernel like me or flash lineage 15.1.

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Or you can just do a fresh install of OOS 5.1.11 and unlock it and install xxxnolimits and radioactive kernel like me or flash lineage 15.1.
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I've already done that, why do you keep telling me to do things like it's my first device?
I don't root and flash anymore, I want something that works when I hand over my money. I'm not loyal to any brand or a fanboy to any brand and if I see something I don't like I make it known, if it doesn't get fixed I walk with my money. The fact that every solution is install a 3rd party app or root your phone and install this or that is not a solution to the underlying problem. OP better step up or they'll go the way of the Blu phones, all hype in the beginning now they're not even a blip on the radar.
If having to flash this or that, install this and that works for you on this device, that's great it however doesn't for me. But that just tells me because you've had to do all that, the OS isn't really up to par. Good luck with your phone and I'm happy you're happy with it.

Seems like you just got unlucky
I have the 128gb 8gb variant and I think you mentioned you had the 64gb variant. I was just trying to help sorry I couldn't.

floridaman said:
What are you babbling about? I have a OnePlus 6 already, this is posted to that thread. Reading along with reading comprehension works wonders before posting at a poor attempt at snark. No bugger off and wake up to yourself.
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Relax, it wasn't meant as bad as it may look Just kidding. Sorry to hear you have such problems, my device performs just excellent.

floridaman said:
Yes, already had to do that because of not only regular issues that still persist but woke up one day where I kept getting warnings my entire storage was used even though I only have used about 5gb out of the 50+gb available. I've seen some postings of others having the same issue.
I still have issues with networking where it doesn't want to reconnect to the network after losing signal and I have to use the airplane mode on/off. It's a known issue to them and they told me they're still working on a fix even though they supposedly pushed one out in the last update.
I've in essence told them already they need to start from scratch with a new OS instead of patching this to work on one model to another which it clearly doesn't. I mean it doesn't even have a slider just for notifications volume, they told me it takes time to code for it. I said people have been complaining for one for 3 years, how much time does one need.
I feel this phone is all hype, great specs but no substance behind the hardware.
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Although I root my devices day one and have no issues with my OP6 I totally agree with you.
I maintained buggy devices before. Customer supports standard answer is factory reset. Community answer is root and flash or install this or that. Out of the box many devices from different brands have lots of issues where I wonder how this could pass quality check. Loosing signal/ reconnecting issues for mobile and wifi, buggy silent mode, any pre installed (mostly the launcher) force closes, etc.
People keep asking me why I root my devices, what the benefit is. While some thinks are a real benefit (twrp, titanium backup, enhanced settings, ...) other mods are just there to overdraw the main rom bugs. And they become more.

floridaman said:
I've already done that, why do you keep telling me to do things like it's my first device?
I don't root and flash anymore, I want something that works when I hand over my money. I'm not loyal to any brand or a fanboy to any brand and if I see something I don't like I make it known, if it doesn't get fixed I walk with my money. The fact that every solution is install a 3rd party app or root your phone and install this or that is not a solution to the underlying problem. OP better step up or they'll go the way of the Blu phones, all hype in the beginning now they're not even a blip on the radar.
If having to flash this or that, install this and that works for you on this device, that's great it however doesn't for me. But that just tells me because you've had to do all that, the OS isn't really up to par. Good luck with your phone and I'm happy you're happy with it.
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Maybe because the problems you are mentioning are issues people that don't know what they are doing tend to have and the people that root and start installing stuff that can't read instructions properly. Honestly the problems you mention are rookie issues and or Fan Boys of other phones (Iphone anyone) and troll.
The OS is just fine. The OP5 and now the OP6 are the first android phones I've never had to install a custom ROM for. I root for TiBu and to install root apps. I also install a Kernel to increase vibration sensitivity and max volume levels. Buttery smooth, insane battery life and no complaints.

I'm running the OP6 64gb as well, and I've never had issues with the OS. It's pretty bare-bones (like it should be), since it opens the possibility to update to new OS updates extremely fast.
I've had high-end Samsung, LG, Sony, HTC, Xiaomi and Huawei, and so far OnePlus have been AMAZINGLY quick on updates and fixes for issues at hand.

The best I have seen so far really enjoy the dark mode option(both on my old oneplus 5)
The audio tuner is amazing with my headphones (classic with Sennheiser hd25)
feel a little smoother than my Oneplus 5 with Oxygen 9.03 but I its maybe a placebo
For improve I want more option for the file manager (smb 3 compatibility pls)
More widget out of the box weather and location especially
and change the design of the weather app
its look a little outdated

floridaman said:
What are you babbling about? I have a OnePlus 6 already, this is posted to that thread. Reading along with reading comprehension works wonders before posting at a poor attempt at snark. No bugger off and wake up to yourself.
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Yes, already had to do that because of not only regular issues that still persist but woke up one day where I kept getting warnings my entire storage was used even though I only have used about 5gb out of the 50+gb available. I've seen some postings of others having the same issue.
I still have issues with networking where it doesn't want to reconnect to the network after losing signal and I have to use the airplane mode on/off. It's a known issue to them and they told me they're still working on a fix even though they supposedly pushed one out in the last update.
I've in essence told them already they need to start from scratch with a new OS instead of patching this to work on one model to another which it clearly doesn't. I mean it doesn't even have a slider just for notifications volume, they told me it takes time to code for it. I said people have been complaining for one for 3 years, how much time does one need.
I feel this phone is all hype, great specs but no substance behind the hardware.
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True

floridaman said:
I find the OS overall to be buggy, outdated, featureless and overall full of patches and fixes that is now the OS that cracker jack built.
At this price point a far better OS is to be expected
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Hold on Guy.. Stop being Salty..

CYB3R0ID694 said:
Hold on Guy.. Stop being Salty..
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Hold yourself, stop being a twit

floridaman said:
Hold yourself, stop being a twit
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THEN WHAT ABOUT BUILD OWN OS & FIX THINGS BY OWN..
OR
HELP DEVELOPERS BY GIVING FEEDBACK & PROVIDING LOGCAT?
SOUNDS FUN?? ISN'T IT? :silly:

Donnie Sins said:
Then next time, buy a OnePlus phone instead of an iPhone :good:
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????????????????

Bought a 3T in 2019

Hey Guys
Just bought a 128GB 3T today.. picked it up for £180.. as new condition with charger, but no box...
really impressed with how fast and smooth it is.. and that we are getting P shortly even after 2 years..
Running OS 508, Camera is really fantastic for a 2 year old phone and can easily match an S7 or an S8.. Single speaker is pretty loud and clear, and headphone audio is stunning on a pair of AKGs., but still testing battery life and SoT
I came from a Nokia 7 Plus.. I changed due to Nokia failing to fix the Wifi non-connection issue since November.. Camera is not that great and making and receiving Phonecalls don't always connect (phone is often dead or "number does not exist" message)..which is a shame, because its great to see Nokia coming back from Microsoft.
My only gripe with my 3T is I find the in-call volume abit low.. although Ive read this is a common problem..
Anyway, very pleased with this great device...

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My only gripe with my 3T is I find the in-call volume abit low.. although Ive read this is a common problem..
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Have a look at https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/help/low-call-volume-t3575675/post71499375
Sent from my OnePlus 3T using XDA Labs

BillGoss said:
Have a look at https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/help/low-call-volume-t3575675/post71499375
Sent from my OnePlus 3T using XDA Labs
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Thanks for the link, appreciated ?
Wouldnt you think after nearly 3 years and quite a few threads on this problem... 1+ would try and get it sorted..
Cheers

NightOrchid said:
Thanks for the link, appreciated ?
Wouldnt you think after nearly 3 years and quite a few threads on this problem... 1+ would try and get it sorted..
Cheers
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Not everybody has an issue with the volume. I, for one, am happy with the way it is in my phone, so I've not needed to use the fix.
Sent from my OnePlus 3T using XDA Labs

Still using my 3T as my daily driver (as I'm sure is the same for most of the folks still on this device forum section). I know a newer phone will be faster/smoother. You often don't realize how much faster a new phone will be, until you actually make that switch. But for now, the 3T does all I need or want it to.
To a large extent, we are hitting the point of diminishing returns for buying a new smartphone every year (or even 2 years or more). Folks are increasingly starting to skip upgrades, as the performance difference or new features don't justify the price (especially $1000 or more for a "flagship" iPhone, Samsung, etc.).
Just as important, still a decent sized community here for this device. Getting a little quiet. But still a lot of helpful members, ROM development, etc.

Welcome to the club!
Still rocking with my 3T as-well.
I realized that performance-wise, the 3T covers all my needs from a smartphone, so upgrading to a newer chipset is purely a waste of my money.
The only thing that will cause me to upgrade is the "outer shell" of the phone.
I am not a big fan of notches to say the least, so up until now, I held back from upgrading.
With the 7 coming out, i'll have to re-asses my stand

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I am not a big fan of notches to say the least, so up until now, I held back from upgrading.
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I can't stand those notches either! It drives me nuts that the manufacturers think that protruding a big notch onto the screen is preferable in order to make the bezel a little smaller. Or really the main reason all the manufacturers are doing this, is because Apple did it, and the other companies feel like they need to copy it. Same as removing the headphone jack. No consumers actually like this, it's only because Apple did it, and all the other companies follow like lemmings.

My wife bought me the 3T just over 2 years ago for £475.
I removed the plastic screen protector after the first year, second year I started playing about with custom ROMs. It's an amazing device, I plan on keeping it for as long as possible. No slow down, still does what I need and plays the games I play (which are not many) and your right the camera is pretty amazing. You should install the gcam port and the pictures become much better.

Suggest me a best custom ROM with good gaming performance

Yash reddy said:
Suggest me a best custom ROM with good gaming performance
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Don't know about "best" as the best for you might not be the best for somebody else.
Suggest you try a few out.
I am using Ressurection Remix and very happy with it.

How is the gaming performance?

I still does not feel to change the device. I love 3T, I own iPhone and 6T but again back to 3T. Even after 2.5 yrs still looks and feel good in hand.

Yash reddy said:
How is the gaming performance?
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The only game I play is clash royal which runs great!

Yash reddy said:
Suggest me a best custom ROM with good gaming performance
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Off topic. Has nothing to do with this thread.
There is also a "best ROM" thread at the top of the Q&A section, with plenty of recommendations.

redpoint73 said:
Off topic. Has nothing to do with this thread.
There is also a "best ROM" thread at the top of the Q&A section, with plenty of recommendations.
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Can u please provide me the link of the thread
Thnx in advance

This year I started using the OnePlus 3T 64GB to replace the OnePlus 2 I had for 2/3 years
So far I'm getting 1 day standby out of it with some decent youtube and general use.
It doesn't look as though OnePlus are going to release an official Android 9 release (Boo!) Looks like custom ROMs then.
I might also but a One Plus 5. I don't like newer devices with a notch and no home button - am I stuck in the past?

redpoint73 said:
Off topic. Has nothing to do with this thread.
There is also a "best ROM" thread at the top of the Q&A section, with plenty of recommendations.
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Hey. A year ago I checked the gcam port. The front camera only clicked photos in 4mp resolution in OOS.
Has that been fixed? If yes I'll have to update my gf's 3T with the fix.

rituj_b said:
Hey. A year ago I checked the gcam port. The front camera only clicked photos in 4mp resolution in OOS.
Has that been fixed? If yes I'll have to update my gf's 3T with the fix.
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There has been a fix file for this. Check it out

kenny_cfc said:
There has been a fix file for this. Check it out
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Are you talking about the flashable zip? I tried flashing it at that time and it didn't fix it for me on stock OOS

rituj_b said:
Are you talking about the flashable zip? I tried flashing it at that time and it didn't fix it for me on stock OOS
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Check it again