Difference between original Xposed and systemless Xposed by magisk author - OnePlus 5 Questions & Answers

Hi,
What's​ the difference between the two? Just the way it was made to work? But then both offer same functionality? What are the advantages of using original Xposed than using Magisk one or vice versa?
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[Q] Safe to install Xposed without Custom Recoveries?

Hi guys!! I have a question, is it safe to use Xposed framework without using custom recoveries?
I know everywhere they say its safe to make a backup with recoveries but i want to refrain from doing that as I am going to take the OTAs when available in my country (Obviously will uninstall the Xposed framework before OTA (Hoping this will work - any insight on this too is appreciated)).
I am not into changing ROMS and use stock ROM only but want to use Xposed for its great customizations (Modules interested in G2 Xposed/Tweakbox/Gravity Box).
Did anyone ever had a problem using Xposed / Any experiences to share where Xposed messed up the phone completely/partially and had to recover using TWRP or CWM?
Or is it just a "Safe step" to install recoveries and back it up before using xposed?
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Ash19_87 said:
Hi guys!! I have a question, is it safe to use Xposed framework without using custom recoveries?
I know everywhere they say its safe to make a backup with recoveries but i want to refrain from doing that as I am going to take the OTAs when available in my country (Obviously will uninstall the Xposed framework before OTA (Hoping this will work - any insight on this too is appreciated)).
I am not into changing ROMS and use stock ROM only but want to use Xposed for its great customizations (Modules interested in G2 Xposed/Tweakbox/Gravity Box).
Did anyone ever had a problem using Xposed / Any experiences to share where Xposed messed up the phone completely/partially and had to recover using TWRP or CWM?
Or is it just a "Safe step" to install recoveries and back it up before using xposed?
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do not take the ota even if your just rooted it will brick your device
My understanding is that Xposed does not worked with G2's Kitkat right now. The problem is not related to root.
Edit: See this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2664652
Once Xposed 2.5 comes out it will work just got to wait

[Q] Xposed + modules more stable on LP or MM?

Trying to get feedback about how xposed is running on MM. Deciding if systemless root is worth it for MM.
Thanks!
I've had xposed on LP and MM on my Moto X Pure.. Both have been very stable. Only reason for systemless root, as I see it, is you want to use Android Pay. Of course, once xposed is installed, Android Pay won't work even with systemless root.
bw03 said:
I've had xposed on LP and MM on my Moto X Pure.. Both have been very stable. Only reason for systemless root, as I see it, is you want to use Android Pay. Of course, once xposed is installed, Android Pay won't work even with systemless root.
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And you definitely need a deodexed rom for xposed to work? correct? I like close to stock as possible.
radpp16 said:
And you definitely need a deodexed rom for xposed to work? correct? I like close to stock as possible.
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No, you do not have to be deodexed.

Xposed for SM-G935FD ?

Hello, I just ordered he SM-G935FD... Coming from the Sony Z5P, I haven't seen much about Xposed installer's on stock roms after root.
Does this exist yet?
There is a version of xposed that has been modified by wanam to work on our phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960
dude9946 said:
Hello, I just ordered he SM-G935FD... Coming from the Sony Z5P, I haven't seen much about Xposed installer's on stock roms after root.
Does this exist yet?
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Use the systemless if you using stock kernel
Thank you both! any other tips? I've seen the sound mod which I will be installing right away!

Xposed Framework on a G7-L01

Hello, I am curious to know if anyone has tried the Xposed Framework on a G7-L01 and if so, what if any issues they have come across?
I've been following Xposed Framework v82-Huawei for EMUI 3.1/4.0 and I'm about ready to jump in and install the framework, but just want to check with other users first
Any advice would be appreciated :good:
Hi, I successfully installed Xposed on my G7 and it is working without issues. Just not getting CM13 installed somehow but at least am on rooted stock version.
frosty76 said:
Hi, I successfully installed Xposed on my G7 and it is working without issues. Just not getting CM13 installed somehow but at least am on rooted stock version.
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Excellent, held off on mine just till the weekend, but can I ask you, for the G7 did you use the ARM or the ARMx64 zip? I'm thinking the ARM is correct, but might be wrong.
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ech0 said:
Excellent, held off on mine just till the weekend, but can I ask you, for the G7 did you use the ARM or the ARMx64 zip? I'm thinking the ARM is correct, but might be wrong.
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Correct, it is ARM, not the 64bit version.
aStRaL_dRaGoN said:
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Had a go with Magisk, v7 went on no problem. I then flashed the modded Xposed and lost root. I had put SuperSU as user app, but was not interested in using the systemless SuperSU and suhide, but by not using them, that possibly led to the root going. Will keep an eye on Magisk though, interesting development.
Restored backup and went with the ARM version of Xposed Framework v86 proper and so far OK, root stayed anyway which was main thing.
I've only tried XToast module, to test and it is not fully working for me. Will try another few modules before I decide if I want to try systemless again.
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Correct, it is ARM, not the 64bit version.
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Thanks for confirming, appreciated :good:
Any recomendations for good working Xposed modules for the G7?
Main reason I want to try it, is lack of custom roms for this device, so might as well mod the stock rom to suit myself.
I have Viper4Android, on and working, but looking for a way to automate the selinux enforcing for it through an Xposed module, but any other suggestions are welcome
u want systemless or u want normal root and xposed?
like me im playing pokemongo so i need systemless root and xposed in order to be able to play pokemongo
reply me which one that u want and i will teach u what i know
aStRaL_dRaGoN said:
u want systemless or u want normal root and xposed?
like me im playing pokemongo so i need systemless root and xposed in order to be able to play pokemongo
reply me which one that u want and i will teach u what i know
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Hey aStRaL_dRaGoN, thanks for the reply and the offer. I went with normal Xposed and normal root in the end and so far all is OK.
I don't play Pokémon Go or have any banking apps that would require me to go fully systemless just yet. I did try it out though and Magisk, went on OK, no problems, the issue arose when I flashed the modded Xposed zip, I lost root then. I can only assume it was because I did not have SuperSU, fully systemless, I had just not made it a system app, I left it as a user app. Maybe some other time though I'll go back to the Magisk route and if I have any problems, I'll ask you, thank you :good:

Devs: How to to pass Safteynet with Xposed?

Other than having functional Android pay and Pokemon Go, why should passing Safetynet be important to me? I don't use those apps, and I like running the stock ROM with Xposed. Would we need a patched kernel to to pass?
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Airwolf79 said:
Other than having functional Android pay and Pokemon Go, why should passing Safetynet be important to me? I don't use those apps, and I like running the stock ROM with Xposed. Would we need a patched kernel to to pass?
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As a general rule, SafetyNet will not pass with Xposed. Closest option (unless something has changed very recently) is to use Xposed via Magisk and temporarily disable Xposed when you need to pass.
Tardeaux said:
As a general rule, SafetyNet will not pass with Xposed. Closest option (unless something has changed very recently) is to use Xposed via Magisk and temporarily disable Xposed when you need to pass.
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That is the only way on a 6P and other devices.
Xposed modifies the system and by definition it is no longer secure.
Magisk with it's modules is the best way. If you absolutely need Xposed, then forget Pay.
tech_head said:
That is the only way on a 6P and other devices.
Xposed modifies the system and by definition it is no longer secure.
Magisk with it's modules is the best way. If you absolutely need Xposed, then forget Pay.
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Yeah, I don't really care about Android pay. What would I need to do to accept an OTA. Would uninstalling Xposed be enough, or would I have to wipe and flash the stock firmware again?
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I don't understand the need for OTA if you have TWRP?
TWRP typically precludes OTA.
Someone will typically make a flashable version of the OTA. At least on every device I've owned.
tech_head said:
I don't understand the need for OTA if you have TWRP?
TWRP typically precludes OTA.
Someone will typically make a flashable version of the OTA. At least on every device I've owned.
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Good point.

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