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Hi,
I am in a situation where I really wonder how I will be able to use my Samsung ( or any other android phone) to work ...
I have the feeling that for everything else I will be able to forget the iphone ( I am waiting for some app on android market for aussie users but it's coming soon) and for many features it will be way better than the iphone ( music without itune, video and game on this awesome screen ....)
Regarding the business I need to be able to do something simple : read a mail and reply/forward it
For the moment I have not been able to do so completely.
For instance, if there is a screenshot embedded in the mail, when I reply or forward the mail my apps will either
*put the image as attachment ( the best case)
*let an empty box and my screenshot will not be anmore in the mail
*create an unreadable mail with xml node everywhere
*put the whole mail into an attachment.
Even for the display of the mail receveid only few app will display the screenshot without changing it into an attachment ( it can be annoying if there are several screenshot with text around in the original mail....)
For the moment I have tested the stock samsung app, HTC work mail 1.00.024, K-9 , touchdown, HTC on froyo stock app ...
Do you have any idea if Android will be one day able to do what windows and apple do for years ??
I thought Froyo would be the answer but I am less and less confident on this ...
PS : I knew when I bought the Samsung that the android 2.1 was not supporting exchange but I thought froyo would and that iterce app would also
PPS : here is an example of what my mail looks like when forward with android app :
<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:word" xmlns:x="urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:excel" xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeowerpoint" xmlns:a="urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:access" xmlns:dt="uuid:C2F41010-65B3-11d1-A29F-00AA00C14882" xmlns:s="uuid:BDC6E3F0-6DA3-11d1-A2A3-00AA00C14882" xmlns:rs="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:rowset" xmlns:z="#RowsetSchema" xmlns:b="urn:schemas-microsoft-
and of course all the text around the screenshot has disappeared
Now my colleague is using Froyo on the Desire and he is still not able to do what I want.
Samsung (the conglomerate) is converting their entire mobile infrastructure to include android powered (specifically the Galaxy S) devices. I'm not sure if the proprietary apps can be ported/moved to other phones or companies but it seems to show that there is alot of confidence in using android for businesses.
Things it will include from what i gather are:
VPN to corporate network.
Access to corporate mail (POP?) from wifi and HSPUDA (secured connection licensed from mobile provider).
what's wrong with installing 3rd party software to connect to outlook/exchange ?
Android doesn't have out of the box support for exchange yet, if that is what you are looking for.
The idea of Android is open source, and a big wide market for all programmers to make some profit by release software that will fill the gap, to gather whatever the people needs.
AllGamer said:
what's wrong with installing 3rd party software to connect to outlook/exchange ?
Android doesn't have out of the box support for exchange yet, if that is what you are looking for.
The idea of Android is open source, and a big wide market for all programmers to make some profit by release software that will fill the gap, to gather whatever the people needs.
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I am not sure you have read my post correctly ?
I have nothing against installing a 3rd party app that's why I said that I hoped that a 3rd party app would support exchange entirely... but there is no 3rd party app which does the job as the iphone !!!
That's why I tested so many different app
Now one moretime when you say : doesn't support yet ... did you read my post ??
I have tested Froyo and it 's just as bad as android 2.1
So now I have to wait maybe android 3.0 for a potential spport of exchange, is that what you meant ??
Hi,
I own a HTC HD2 and since it has been possible to run Android on it I've started to love the device. Our companys policy does not allow Android phones to synchronize phones with the Exchange server, although it is possible and I have been doing it since I got Android. The reason that Android phones are not allowed to sync is that they do not support encryption. According to one of the persons in our IT staff the only mobile OS's that support are Windows Mobile and iPhone OS.
Is this correct and if so, will Android ever support encryption?
Our employees have a lot of sensitive information in their mailboxes..
I don't wanna go back to WinMo.
What kind of encryption do you mean? Encryption of data stored on a device? It's easy thing to do and it's a matter of software, not hardware, so actually any smartphone should be able to do that - including Android devices.
I mean hardware device encryption. If a person gets his phone stolen we want to make sure that the thief is unable to connect the phone to his computer and get access to all the data. Not just for the memory card but for the entire phone memory.
It is possible to open the phone and take out the storage and then connect it to a PC and collect data. But with hardware encryption that's way harder.
scanie said:
I mean hardware device encryption. If a person gets his phone stolen we want to make sure that the thief is unable to connect the phone to his computer and get access to all the data. Not just for the memory card but for the entire phone memory.
It is possible to open the phone and take out the storage and then connect it to a PC and collect data. But with hardware encryption that's way harder.
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And does really iPhone and WM give you possibility to encrypt a whole partition using your passphrase, so you will have to enter it at boot time? If no, then it's not a true protection and Android can do that too.
My friend went thru the same prob on his hd2. Its more like so the IT staff can wipe your phone remotely/ change internet and emailing controls. Blackberry, Winmo, and iPhones do it.
U should use winmo at work then boot android on the way to the house. Best of both worlds.
Sent from my Androidized HTC HD2
WaveSecure anyone? It's the first application that came into my mind. I'm sure i've seen free solutions as well. If i remember well, Android 2.2 has this feature built-in.
Brut.all said:
And does really iPhone and WM give you possibility to encrypt a whole partition using your passphrase, so you will have to enter it at boot time? If no, then it's not a true protection and Android can do that too.
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Yes they do. That's the whole point. My WM phone has an enforced policy and will not boot until the filesystem is unlocked by the passcode (that's not even to the WM splash screen).
The fact that no Android phones support hardware encryption means that whatever Google might say (and I've not seen it in their roadmap even now), their Exchange Provisioning support is substandard and therefore not suitable for secure enterprise use.
t1g3r3y3 said:
WaveSecure anyone? It's the first application that came into my mind. I'm sure i've seen free solutions as well. If i remember well, Android 2.2 has this feature built-in.
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Wavesecure isn't actually encryption, it's just a solution for finding/wiping/backing up your phone.
Froyo does not have encryption built in.
Froyo permits device management by IT services, using Exchange. This allows remote wipe etc.
pulser_g2 said:
Froyo permits device management by IT services, using Exchange. This allows remote wipe etc.
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But not device encryption, which is the whole point of this thread.
scanie said:
Hi,
I own a HTC HD2 and since it has been possible to run Android on it I've started to love the device. Our companys policy does not allow Android phones to synchronize phones with the Exchange server, although it is possible and I have been doing it since I got Android. The reason that Android phones are not allowed to sync is that they do not support encryption. According to one of the persons in our IT staff the only mobile OS's that support are Windows Mobile and iPhone OS.
Is this correct and if so, will Android ever support encryption?
Our employees have a lot of sensitive information in their mailboxes..
I don't wanna go back to WinMo.
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Im not sure whom are you asking, Android its a open source OS, its up to those who make the devices to offer such features, ask HTC for instance if they plan to release such a "corp" devices, linux comes with such features so i doubt it would be very hard to make.
roalex said:
Im not sure whom are you asking, Android its a open source OS, its up to those who make the devices to offer such features, ask HTC for instance if they plan to release such a "corp" devices, linux comes with such features so i doubt it would be very hard to make.
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Another post wide of the mark.
It's got nothing to do with the device makers or HTC. Android is Google's OS and the feature list of core releases (Froyo, Gingerbread etc.) is entirely under their control, as is the minimum hardware spec for each release. Device manufacturers like HTC are hardly going to go to the expense of building in device encryption if isn't supported by the OS provider or even on their roadmap.
Hence until Google decides otherwise Android will remain a leisure-orientated OS and just doesn't cut it for secure enterprise use.
without hardware support, like an extra encryption chip or a CPU, that has special functions, like AES-NI, full system encryption will be very, very slow.
xcreatir said:
without hardware support, like an extra encryption chip or a CPU, that has special functions, like AES-NI, full system encryption will be very, very slow.
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Really? Doesn't seem to affect WM, Symbian and iOS devices which fully comply with Exchange security policies, nor those PC users protecting their hard disks with Bitlocker etc. No, this is just a case of Google dragging their feet because corporate users aren't high on their priority list.
Have you tried the encrypted certificate installer i think its a .psx doc. thats what let me into my server which still thinks it cant allow android phones.
vision
Interesting discussion. I know I can use up to 256bit AES encryption on Titanium Backup Pro...but thats it. I am guessing the software handles everything, only on backups and system data, but cant help but feel the phone has a say "of some kind" too.
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Another post wide of the mark.
It's got nothing to do with the device makers or HTC. Android is Google's OS and the feature list of core releases (Froyo, Gingerbread etc.) is entirely under their control, as is the minimum hardware spec for each release. Device manufacturers like HTC are hardly going to go to the expense of building in device encryption if isn't supported by the OS provider or even on their roadmap.
Hence until Google decides otherwise Android will remain a leisure-orientated OS and just doesn't cut it for secure enterprise use.
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But, HTC (or anyone else) can add and remove code to their build for the phone when adding/removing drivers or that [email protected] they load on your phone as someone said, it works under Linux who says I can't work for Android (anyway the kernel was made for modules)
As the hd2 roms are (mostly) pre-rooted who says you can't load the module to support filesystem encryption.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Edit: god I need to check what I am copying
Won't work. No network security manager in their right mind would make an exception for an unsupported hack. So until Google formally support all the Exchange policies (along with the responsibility should those implementations prove defective), many corporates will maintain a blanket ban on all Android connections.
foxwolfblood said:
But, HTC (or anyone else) can add and remove code to their build for the phone when adding/removing drivers or that [email protected] they load on your phone as someone said, it works under Linux who says I can't work for Android (anyway the kernel was made for modules)
As the hd2 roms are (mostly) pre-rooted who says you can't load the module to support filesystem encryption.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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This does nothing but further fragments Android as a platform. It's already suffering from Enterprise fragmentation due to Exchange client support: HTC's Exchange Client is notoriously the buggiest out of all the major Android Phone Manufacturers.
I would not want them developing that for Android.
My job banned Android phones after I had my first Vibrant stolen, because they were unable to Remote Wipe/Lock it or anything. Now, the server won't even let the phones connect to the Exchange server.
This is a serious issue. They actually banned everything but Windows Mobile phones for a while after that incident, but eventually let iOS and Nokia users connect after some "testing." Blackberries go through BES, so this were never a problem for them, since they don't use ActiveSync to access the Exchange server.
Android is still banned, and the fact that one manufacturer supports it when users can have phones from 5-10 different manufacturers who don't will not convince any IT department to allow them. Making these types of pointless exceptions does not help anyone.
http://www.nitrodesk.com/security.aspx
As the title says. I'm looking to try out a wm7 phone. I have been on android and never used a wm phone before. Is it easy to flash roms onto them? (has anyone made a guide?). Also any opinions from you experience with the phone would be greatly appreciated.
It depends.
skathed said:
As the title says. I'm looking to try out a wm7 phone. I have been on android and never used a wm phone before. Is it easy to flash roms onto them? (has anyone made a guide?). Also any opinions from you experience with the phone would be greatly appreciated.
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It all depends how open minded you are for radical changes in some aspects, Android is a more messed up OS, you have plenty of options(many of which you never use) on the other hand WP7 is a more restrictive OS, you can't do many things here without a full unlock or in other cases (like notification center) even a full unlock won't help(well there is a notification center in the workings on this site(www.windowsphonehacker.com), but i'm on WP7 from the beginning and actually never quite needed one as live tiles are very functional and are capable of storing great amount of information(of course if the developer wasn't lazy and implemented this).
All in all, a fully unlocked device will give you the kind of freedom( sideloading apps, even installing apps from the browser, storing apps in the internal memory of the phone, messing up with the background colors, tiles of the screen, lockscreen customization, creating folders with apps on the start screen, changing values inaccessible for non unlocked devices(like adding *never* option to the lockscreen timeout, and many others).
But you will find and many things that you didn't experience on android, like the search experience, the integrated office experience(a very useful thing if you work with documents), facebook, twitter, linkedin and mail integration and the feeling of security you don't expect from another OS, no bloatware and the stability no other OS can offer, as the speed of the system isn't changing over time )).
Thanks that helps heaps. Im getting less confident in Androids safety since they have the largest slice of the consumer pie. I have ordered one from overseas (dont sell this model in my country) and hope to see it soon.
Some help.
skathed said:
Thanks that helps heaps. Im getting less confident in Androids safety since they have the largest slice of the consumer pie. I have ordered one from overseas (dont sell this model in my country) and hope to see it soon.
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1) Well i can give you some useful advices )) , when creating your live id select your country as US or UK as this setting determines your marketplace region and if the marketplace isn't present in your country you will literally have no apps to install ))
2) As you get your device, don't bother with official updates, install a custom bootloader from here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1485569 , but BEWARE --> check your device revision( 1.3 or 1.4) if you get a 1.3 revision device you're lucky as these usually get more custom love )) and after you install the bootloader you can install this great rom for revision 1.3 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016769
or this rom for 1.4 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024825
3) In settings of the device there is the Region+Language option, there you select your region for correct date/time/currency and other stuff BUT for the Browser & search language select English United States as this setting will give you the full Search experience( i mean Local Scout/Music/Vision and Voice, these functions are very neat, you'll understand ( search youtube for WP7 search )
4) Make sure you install these great homebrew apps :
- Bazaar
- Bt File transfer
- Blue Manager(requires the previous to work)
- Call Manager
- File Manager
- Folders( www.windowsphonehacker.com )
- Marketplace Config( helps changing marketplace settings so you can download other OEM's goodies )
- Nokia apps( must have)
- Program Manager
- WPH tweaks ( again www.windowsphonehacker.com )
5) The device has a microsd slot, but BEWARE, not any microsd will work for it, you will find a list of working cards here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Focus , i myself added there the A-Data 16GB Class 4 (AUSDH16GCL4-RA1) as this is what i use now in my Focus, and it's working fantasticly well for 2 years already.
And there is one more thing you need to know about the microsd, it will not work as it used to work on android phones, here you must install it from the beginning because the OS formats it and it merges with the internal memory, so in the end it behaves like one unified memory, you can't access it aside from your device, and you can't swap cards, ass swapping cards requires HARD REST of the device, so if you plan to put a microsd card doit from the beginning.
Well, good luck ))
If you really can't wait for a Windows Phone 8, Samsung Focus is still available on eBay for about $125. It's worth the money without doubt. The only problem is that it comes with no warranty whatsoever.
Wait and get a WP8?
skathed said:
As the title says. I'm looking to try out a wm7 phone. I have been on android and never used a wm phone before. Is it easy to flash roms onto them? (has anyone made a guide?). Also any opinions from you experience with the phone would be greatly appreciated.
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The Focus is a solid phone (I'm still using mine and I've gone through 3 custom ROMS - I'm currently using Voluptuary's clean WP7.8 ROM), and it's pretty simple to root it and install a custom ROM on it. That said, it's probably worthwhile to get a WP8 device if you can manage the extra cash. Nokia has some cheaper WP8 offerings, if I'm not mistaken. I think the Lumia 620 is $250 or so.
Hello Guys,
before I start: My apologies for this, I am not quite sure if I am even in the right Topic.
I think of myself as pretty new to Android, but got some experiences in Rooting, Custom Roms and such. But that is already as far as it gets.
Now my Problem: We lost our BES and now my Company decided to go with Android (SG4 I9505) and I have to make it happen :angel:.
1. I Need some Kind of Freeware tool to administer Android Devices (Basic: find device, delete data, restrict Apps)
2. If something like this dont exist (which I dont think-I just havent found it)), I would Need to know if I can use CM 10.2 as our Standard Rom and before you start rolling your eyes with experimental and such....
I have to restrict the phone solely to Telefone, Exchange and some preselected (mostly travel)Tools. NO GAPPS!!! and I think that nightly CM provides this with no problems
To realize this I downloaded the nightly from 18th, I think. I then added some APK´s into \System\app Folder and installed the ROM. This actually worked fine until I updated to phone afterwards via build in updating tool - all Tools were gone.(what did I miss?)
Now, our Standard is SG4 I-9505.
Any ideas on how I could do this? (I couldnt find what I was looking for)
1. Adminster a fleet of androids (free)
2. Customize a Custom ROM for corporate Identity (How to pre-setup Exchange Boot Logo, Lockscreen, etc.)
3. or customize a ROM to the Point it cannot do much except what is in the \System\app Folder and turn off updates
Any link is much appreciated. Sadly there is sooooo much andoid articles out there that I seem to get lost while searching for the right one. Thanks in advance!!!!
AccEss-dEniEd said:
1. Adminster a fleet of androids (free)
2. Customize a Custom ROM for corporate Identity (How to pre-setup Exchange Boot Logo, Lockscreen, etc.)
3. or customize a ROM to the Point it cannot do much except what is in the \System\app Folder and turn off updates
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My guess is I'll get flamed for saying this - but here goes.
Android corporate (MDM) leaves a lot to be desired next to iOS, at least as far as I've been able to find. We manage a lot of iPads and obviously minus the custom ROM we've been able to do it all for little to no cost. We've shied away from Android a lot because of the limited MDM control.
But, since you asked:
1. Meraki Systems Manager (and the accompanying app from Google Play)
2. Good luck with that
3. See number 2
I think the reality is you're going to need to do something to the effect of either cook your own ROM and deploy it or use a tool like CWM to create an "image" that you would then restore to the devices. I did that with a batch of 60+ Nexus 7s and it worked out pretty well.
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With all that said - I would urge your management to reconsider their approach as the world has changed since Blackberry was the only game in town. Yes, still stick with MDM, device location, remote wipe etc. But unless you're dealing with highly sensitive information (exp banking), let people actually USE the device you're giving them. Don't lock it down to where its basically a first generation iPhone. I'm a big fan of giving someone a good tool and letting them use it the way that works best for them, while still keeping the device and more importantly the data under corporate control.
Assuming you have Exchange, does this not provide the management part?
AccEss-dEniEd said:
Hello Guys,
before I start: My apologies for this, I am not quite sure if I am even in the right Topic.
I think of myself as pretty new to Android, but got some experiences in Rooting, Custom Roms and such. But that is already as far as it gets.
Now my Problem: We lost our BES and now my Company decided to go with Android (SG4 I9505) and I have to make it happen :angel:.
1. I Need some Kind of Freeware tool to administer Android Devices (Basic: find device, delete data, restrict Apps)
2. If something like this dont exist (which I dont think-I just havent found it)), I would Need to know if I can use CM 10.2 as our Standard Rom and before you start rolling your eyes with experimental and such....
I have to restrict the phone solely to Telefone, Exchange and some preselected (mostly travel)Tools. NO GAPPS!!! and I think that nightly CM provides this with no problems
To realize this I downloaded the nightly from 18th, I think. I then added some APK´s into \System\app Folder and installed the ROM. This actually worked fine until I updated to phone afterwards via build in updating tool - all Tools were gone.(what did I miss?)
Now, our Standard is SG4 I-9505.
Any ideas on how I could do this? (I couldnt find what I was looking for)
1. Adminster a fleet of androids (free)
2. Customize a Custom ROM for corporate Identity (How to pre-setup Exchange Boot Logo, Lockscreen, etc.)
3. or customize a ROM to the Point it cannot do much except what is in the \System\app Folder and turn off updates
Any link is much appreciated. Sadly there is sooooo much andoid articles out there that I seem to get lost while searching for the right one. Thanks in advance!!!!
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I currently work in the infrastructure of a good sized corporation. We're using IOS with a mixture of android hardware and there's some good news and bad news for what you want to do.
Good news is, like Jpcurrie said, exchange will handle remote wiping and locking the phone down. you can require the phone to use a PIN, remote wipe and and a bit more. As for locating the phone, Google actually has finally built in remote locating of your device and remote wipe as well. There's a couple good apps out there (lookout) will turn on your GPS and allow you to locate the phone and they're free. If you happen to have a virtualized environment with VMware, you could also use VMware View Horizons which builds in a secure sector on the phone and you can remotely manage which apps and files the user can use. the best part of View is you can use a BYOD model and keep corporate data secure. The biggest issue is if you don't happen to already use a VMware architecture it gets pricey quickly.
Here's the rub now. you want to install your own logos on the bootup which you could do by installing a custom ROM. This will void your warranty on the hardware and as it isn't 100% stable you'll be spending a LOT of time trying to keep a consistent environment.
Like netsyd said, talk to management about an MDM, and the branding of the devices, maybe even talk to them about using a BYOD to reduce costs of hardware and administration of that hardware.
Isn´t Knox supposed to allow administrators to only delete the data that belongs to the Corporate account (emails, calendars, tasks, etc.), or an administrator can still force a full device wipe? Sorry if the questions is too basic, I've tried searching around for info on Knox but couldn't find anything besides press releases.
I'm not a network administrator, I'm just a user and my school secure wifi installs a device administrator.
I'm sorry to deviate the topic a little bit from the original.
At Delta we use Air Watch but it's far from free. You can however manage devices and remote wipe. You can also view installed apps and remove what should not be there. Options for device profiles also. I help maintain these devices everyday. Not Free but an MDM is your best bet.
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long time - no see
Hiya,
sorry I didn t answer - kinda was overwhelmed with this Task.
Wanted still to thank you: I did what you suggestet and wanted to let you know where I am now.
1. Meraki = implemented - now runnning 160+ devices. (at no costs)
2. CM12.1 implemented (without GAPPS/no SU)
3. Standard Image/w Apps defined. (Mostly Offline capable Tools like "here" etc.(which actually reduced costs))
4. Since Android has limited capability to be administered in a "real" professional Fashion we mitigated this issue by creating a policy to forbid the user to temper with the device (e.g. Installation of Software/SU etc) yet to allow the Installation of Software manually by us via creating a ticket. We check the Software mainly for "sanity" and malware and install it if ok.
This has been working so far like a charm for us. None of the user were happy to loose the Gapps obviously - but once they had their Software and settled in, all was ok. For the Administering part: Meraki can tell me if Software is beeing installed without our Knowledge, also we see if SM doesnt speak with us anymore. So, for now, we got the most out of the System and I am happy to say: I got minimal Control in a Quality sense. No no more "KO Critera" - and we have implemented Android. Tracking etc. is forbidden in Germany anyway - so we use Meraki mainly to wipe if lost and to check if someone goes against policy.
What is still open:
- I am still working on a way to have the user enter his credentials and automatically enter These in all respective config files. (haven't had much luck - with the absense of SU obviously.
- a Little cosmetics still open (I am still trying to figure out how the theming really works ... I usually f**k up the Pictures and sounds.... but so far making Progress
- with less and less good Android devices coming out (now, I am probably beeing flamed now ) that suits our needs (open bootloader, known/supported CPUs, removable battery, SD Card Slot) - I think we might Switch by Q4/2016.
netsyd said:
My guess is I'll get flamed for saying this - but here goes.
Android corporate (MDM) leaves a lot to be desired next to iOS, at least as far as I've been able to find. We manage a lot of iPads and obviously minus the custom ROM we've been able to do it all for little to no cost. We've shied away from Android a lot because of the limited MDM control.
But, since you asked:
1. Meraki Systems Manager (and the accompanying app from Google Play)
2. Good luck with that
3. See number 2
I think the reality is you're going to need to do something to the effect of either cook your own ROM and deploy it or use a tool like CWM to create an "image" that you would then restore to the devices. I did that with a batch of 60+ Nexus 7s and it worked out pretty well.
Edit:
With all that said - I would urge your management to reconsider their approach as the world has changed since Blackberry was the only game in town. Yes, still stick with MDM, device location, remote wipe etc. But unless you're dealing with highly sensitive information (exp banking), let people actually USE the device you're giving them. Don't lock it down to where its basically a first generation iPhone. I'm a big fan of giving someone a good tool and letting them use it the way that works best for them, while still keeping the device and more importantly the data under corporate control.
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Hi all,
just wanted to provide some user experience.
I have solid experience in debloating the roms on all devices I use (Samsung phones in last 4 years, Shield TV) but one thing I came accross in Phoenix OS that looks very strange is
CZStatisticsProvider in system/priv-app folder. (I use rooted 2.2.1 OS)
Disabling this one causes Phoenix OS to act very unstable - refusing to install the app (soft reboot), constant error reports, to refusing to continue reboot/shutdown.
I guess I dont like the name of it - as for me purpose of debloating (incl. removing gapps if needed) is also to avoid collection of user data, and I would be happy to live with some negative effects (like missing Playstore).
However - this one refuses to leave the system.
Any thoughts?
Its very clumsy when you think that it has aosp like look and features but internally a lot of codes are bonded with every stock apps than the vendor ones only.
1.This is done intentionally to make it really difficult to port usps of such free but potential aftermarket OS.(like Task bar and notification bar,)
2.Genuinely ,it can be so Intents are bonded to various native apps to gather analytics from different devices for more bug-free and stable performance.
Otherwise ,there is nothing more in Phoenix OS than taskbar,drawer and notification bar (side bar).
Do you speak on behalf of development team?
One thing is the need to protect the app from porting - but we are speaking about the app which cannot be safely removed from the system, and is called Statistics Provider...
I am quite familiar with Android essential components, and this app is not there..
Have a great day!
That's What i told
@phnikola
As i said ,various ROMS have that (statistical Provider)like in Ressurection Remix to collect various data from various system apps to provide more stability ,and intentionally necessary.
like in miui ,a lot of apps are just junk but your system may go in loop when its not available there.It is there to protect Maker's interest .
Got it ?. Its not AOSP or Individual Freeroam developer project .Its a company investment so they always try to put collar upon there products
BTW ,the root official devs dont reply even on their forum ,so u cant expect them here,when i raised voice ,they banned me on phoenix forum with spam charge.