Any hope to use android for business ?? - Galaxy S I9000 General

Hi,
I am in a situation where I really wonder how I will be able to use my Samsung ( or any other android phone) to work ...
I have the feeling that for everything else I will be able to forget the iphone ( I am waiting for some app on android market for aussie users but it's coming soon) and for many features it will be way better than the iphone ( music without itune, video and game on this awesome screen ....)
Regarding the business I need to be able to do something simple : read a mail and reply/forward it
For the moment I have not been able to do so completely.
For instance, if there is a screenshot embedded in the mail, when I reply or forward the mail my apps will either
*put the image as attachment ( the best case)
*let an empty box and my screenshot will not be anmore in the mail
*create an unreadable mail with xml node everywhere
*put the whole mail into an attachment.
Even for the display of the mail receveid only few app will display the screenshot without changing it into an attachment ( it can be annoying if there are several screenshot with text around in the original mail....)
For the moment I have tested the stock samsung app, HTC work mail 1.00.024, K-9 , touchdown, HTC on froyo stock app ...
Do you have any idea if Android will be one day able to do what windows and apple do for years ??
I thought Froyo would be the answer but I am less and less confident on this ...
PS : I knew when I bought the Samsung that the android 2.1 was not supporting exchange but I thought froyo would and that iterce app would also
PPS : here is an example of what my mail looks like when forward with android app :
<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:word" xmlns:x="urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:excel" xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeowerpoint" xmlns:a="urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:access" xmlns:dt="uuid:C2F41010-65B3-11d1-A29F-00AA00C14882" xmlns:s="uuid:BDC6E3F0-6DA3-11d1-A2A3-00AA00C14882" xmlns:rs="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:rowset" xmlns:z="#RowsetSchema" xmlns:b="urn:schemas-microsoft-
and of course all the text around the screenshot has disappeared
Now my colleague is using Froyo on the Desire and he is still not able to do what I want.

Samsung (the conglomerate) is converting their entire mobile infrastructure to include android powered (specifically the Galaxy S) devices. I'm not sure if the proprietary apps can be ported/moved to other phones or companies but it seems to show that there is alot of confidence in using android for businesses.
Things it will include from what i gather are:
VPN to corporate network.
Access to corporate mail (POP?) from wifi and HSPUDA (secured connection licensed from mobile provider).

what's wrong with installing 3rd party software to connect to outlook/exchange ?
Android doesn't have out of the box support for exchange yet, if that is what you are looking for.
The idea of Android is open source, and a big wide market for all programmers to make some profit by release software that will fill the gap, to gather whatever the people needs.

AllGamer said:
what's wrong with installing 3rd party software to connect to outlook/exchange ?
Android doesn't have out of the box support for exchange yet, if that is what you are looking for.
The idea of Android is open source, and a big wide market for all programmers to make some profit by release software that will fill the gap, to gather whatever the people needs.
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I am not sure you have read my post correctly ?
I have nothing against installing a 3rd party app that's why I said that I hoped that a 3rd party app would support exchange entirely... but there is no 3rd party app which does the job as the iphone !!!
That's why I tested so many different app
Now one moretime when you say : doesn't support yet ... did you read my post ??
I have tested Froyo and it 's just as bad as android 2.1
So now I have to wait maybe android 3.0 for a potential spport of exchange, is that what you meant ??

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Sprint Mogul & included Java - WHY ?

Just wondering...
since the Java software that comes with the Mogul doesn't work with the Gmail App, it is useless.
I have installed the 3rd party Java App and that works OK ( not great )
Is there a way to un-install the included Java ?
I have noticed some of the custom roms include it, why ?
( just finised testing DCD's room and it doesn't YAY ! )
Thank you.
to run their handmark applications i think.
Because Microsoft has still continued its M.O. of "handcuffing" consumers to their products and not allowing 3rd party software to be compatible if it views it as a competitor. Gmail is a competitor because it is overtaking hotmail users. Yes it is totally ridiculous that you cannot use gmail on the stock java, typical for MS.
Their business practices are one day going to ruin them completely. Once the masses start using a Google OS (I give it <5 years until Google has a free OS that is 100x better) people will start realizing how bad MS really was. Of course once a Google OS comes out, open source word processing programs, etc. will be released and backed by google after testing. The rest will be history. No one will want to use IE, MS Office, etc.
If you think I am talking crazy just wait.....
Why java you ask?
When the rest of Sprints Content manager is opened up for us with REV A, we will be able to utilize the ringtones, screensavers, and other sprint apps such as sprint navigation on our devices. Not unlocked yet though.......

Anyone use Monilink?

I used to use Monilink a lot on my old Nokia. It is a Java app which you use to manage your bank account, it comes direct from your bank.
Anyone managed to use it under Android? I can't even get the wap push message to arrive when I register. I think it is arriving but the phone is ignoring it because when I put my sim in a different phone the message arrives every time!
doesn't work.
use the text message service from your bank.
There's a new version of the software coming out 1st weekend of December which will work with newer touchscreen phones, but still nothing for android or windows mobile yet.
the download link is just wap.monilink.co.uk/download.wml
i'd stick with the text alerts.
ballandbiscuit said:
I used to use Monilink a lot on my old Nokia. It is a Java app which you use to manage your bank account, it comes direct from your bank.
Anyone managed to use it under Android? I can't even get the wap push message to arrive when I register. I think it is arriving but the phone is ignoring it because when I put my sim in a different phone the message arrives every time!
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Wow, I didn't think anyone used MoniLink anymore! I was on the testing team for the bank when it was first launched, it never seemed to take off.
rhedgehog is right, looks like it will be coming out shotly, its just in testing, but this is not for Android / WM, they are not looking at this yet.
I used to find it quite good for quickly checking balances etc. Have to investigate the sms option to see if you can just send a text and they reply with balance etc. Perhaps before long the banks will make a version of internet banking with formatting for iphone/android etc as the full blown sites are rather clunky and slow when on the mobile.
Yes, you can. Each bank has a slightly different number, but in general you text BAL or MINI to that nuimber and it sends you back your balance or a mini statement.
ballandbiscuit said:
I used to find it quite good for quickly checking balances etc. Have to investigate the sms option to see if you can just send a text and they reply with balance etc. Perhaps before long the banks will make a version of internet banking with formatting for iphone/android etc as the full blown sites are rather clunky and slow when on the mobile.
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Don't think you'll really ever get that from mainstream banks, especially the one I work out. It seems their attitute to mobile banking is that the industry changes too much and they can't afford resources to suit every mobile phone.
With computers, you have the main browsers like IE, FireFox, Safari, so they make it work for those, but others are a bonus. There are so many platforms and browsers for mobile, they just won't do it.
The bank I work for made me laugh when the iPhone came out and they advertised that their internet banking was made iPhone friendly like they made it like that, truth is, they just got lucky!
sad thing is, monilink are just releasing a version for the iphone. They are then updating for the other mainstream touchscreen phones (nokias and samsungs etc) in december...but nothing for us.
Sucks really.
Java
I would also like to get this running,
I am getting the message through with a link to download the app, I then paste this link into my java Midlet Manager, IE opens and and says it cant find the link, I f I was able to get this downloaded i dont see why it wouldnt run in the Midlet Manager ?
Any halp will be much appreciated.
Merry Christmas
I find using NatWest online banking on Hero quite ok. I used to use monilink on my windows mobile phones as the opera browser seemed incompatible. But all the browsers I tried on Android work without any problems.

Ouch. Phone 7 is missing basic features.

- No WiFi Tether
- No USB Tether
Is the first thing I noticed. Seriously? so I switched back to Android.
FirefighterDown said:
- No WiFi Tether
- No USB Tether
Is the first thing I noticed. Seriously? so I switched back to Android.
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Microsoft have said from the beginning that WM7 would not support tethering.
So its no great surprise, well to some it is.
FirefighterDown said:
- No WiFi Tether
- No USB Tether
Is the first thing I noticed. Seriously? so I switched back to Android.
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There are MUCH MORE features that WP7 has missed out
but it's the 1st version of OS, what did you expect?
the 1st version of iOS and Android are even suckier than WP7
I gonna list out some features WP7 missed out...
MMS support other than pictures (Audio/Contacts) (Only 1 MMS at a time)
Contacts Sharing
Custom Fields in Contacts
IE Homepage
Text Reflow (Mail/IE)
WiFi static IP
HomeScreen Wallpaper
Customize Dictionary
Turn Off Auto-Rotate
Mail ability to add attachments other than Pictures
Voice Recorder
Chinese/Unicode Input
Local Search (The Local in Bing Search means places around you, not in-phone)
SkyDrive support
Flash
Pictures Editing
Audio Trimming
Grid View for Apps (HTC Android can toggle Grid/List)
Backup? (For apps data I mean, games data will be saved in xbox live)
External Storage
Touch Focus for Camera (Auto focus while video is already impressive, but I need some manual focus)
Silent mode/Voicemail mode (I don't always want vibrate, I want to COMPLETELY IGNORE sometimes)
Integration of Facebook User's Birthday to Calander
Battery Percentage/Usage Statistics
And Most IMPORTANT... Homebrew apps!! (.xap files w/o DRM can be installed w/o a developer's account)
That's all for now... or maybe that's all I need for a ultimate phone for now...
I think I have played around WP7 enough for now... It's not enough for everyday use YET.... going back to Android and wait for a few WP7 updates before returning
It's going to drive all the corporate users away too... I spend 3 1/2 hours trying to get an intermediate certificate installed so that it can sync with my Exchange server. The cert needs to be in the Root store but WP7 puts it in the Intermediate store. I have no control over the stores themselves. I don't want or need to pay for a Root cert from Verisign or whatever - I only use the cert for encryption. Without it being in the Root store synchronization errors out with a certificate error. I can't "go through the cloud" because my business is regulated in a way that would preclude that.
Android simply ignores the fact that it isn't a "valid" Root cert and simply uses it for encryption and WM 6.5 etc. accepts the cert "as is". Since I'm replacing a user's broken HD2 and it will have to last 18 months I'm going with an Android. I'd stick with the HD2 but they are going to start becoming scarce and the user is our COO who is "technology aware" so I'm going in a direction that I believe she will be happiest with.
Sorry MS but you really screwed the pooch with WP7...
- skype
- batery info
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bountygiver said:
I gonna list out some features WP7 missed out...
MMS support other than pictures (Audio/Contacts) (Only 1 MMS at a time)
Contacts Sharing
Custom Fields in Contacts
IE Homepage
Text Reflow (Mail/IE)
WiFi static IP
HomeScreen Wallpaper
Customize Dictionary
Turn Off Auto-Rotate
Mail ability to add attachments other than Pictures
Voice Recorder
Chinese/Unicode Input
Local Search (The Local in Bing Search means places around you, not in-phone)
SkyDrive support
Flash
Pictures Editing
Audio Trimming
Grid View for Apps (HTC Android can toggle Grid/List)
Backup? (For apps data I mean, games data will be saved in xbox live)
External Storage
Touch Focus for Camera (Auto focus while video is already impressive, but I need some manual focus)
Silent mode/Voicemail mode (I don't always want vibrate, I want to COMPLETELY IGNORE sometimes)
Integration of Facebook User's Birthday to Calander
Battery Percentage/Usage Statistics
And Most IMPORTANT... Homebrew apps!! (.xap files w/o DRM can be installed w/o a developer's account)
That's all for now... or maybe that's all I need for a ultimate phone for now...
I think I have played around WP7 enough for now... It's not enough for everyday use YET.... going back to Android and wait for a few WP7 updates before returning
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I'd have to agree totally, after having it on for 24 hours and messing around with it I'm finding it extremely basic as to what it offers. It looks good don't get me wrong, but I'm going joining you in going back to Android until there's a few updates applied
Airborne Aircrew said:
It's going to drive all the corporate users away too... I spend 3 1/2 hours trying to get an intermediate certificate installed so that it can sync with my Exchange server. The cert needs to be in the Root store but WP7 puts it in the Intermediate store. I have no control over the stores themselves. I don't want or need to pay for a Root cert from Verisign or whatever - I only use the cert for encryption. Without it being in the Root store synchronization errors out with a certificate error. I can't "go through the cloud" because my business is regulated in a way that would preclude that.
Android simply ignores the fact that it isn't a "valid" Root cert and simply uses it for encryption and WM 6.5 etc. accepts the cert "as is". Since I'm replacing a user's broken HD2 and it will have to last 18 months I'm going with an Android. I'd stick with the HD2 but they are going to start becoming scarce and the user is our COO who is "technology aware" so I'm going in a direction that I believe she will be happiest with.
Sorry MS but you really screwed the pooch with WP7...
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Well tbh WP7 isnt really supposed to be a business phone, If you want it for business go for the legacy OS as that was designed specifically for business needs.
Camera flash led
Did you realise that only one led is really working or it is only with me? If not, is there any solution??

[Q] Multiple users on Acer tablet?

I am looking at getting the Acer Iconia tablet. It would be something my wife and I would share around the house (i.e. in the living room so both of us could use it when we wish). So how does Android Honeycomb handle multiple users? I assume we wouldn't each have a 'logon' ID? But I am just wondering how my wife could keep her bookmarks, email, etc on it along with mine. For instance, I might come in, use it a bit to get email, browse the internet, run some apps, etc. Then later my wife might pick it up and want to do the same thing, but use her email and browser settings, etc.
How is that handled in Android?
/Tom (Chimp)
hi,
in the windows world we would call that profiles, as far a i know this doesn't exist (yet?) at the operating system level. I would love to have it.
Firefox mobile has a 'mobile profiles' addon but it didn't work correctly for me.
I could switch account but not switch back.
cheers
monki-magic said:
hi,
in the windows world we would call that profiles, as far a i know this doesn't exist (yet?) at the operating system level. I would love to have it.
Firefox mobile has a 'mobile profiles' addon but it didn't work correctly for me.
I could switch account but not switch back.
cheers
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Crap... so we are saying any Android tablet is basically a one-user tablet? It's weird that Google would build it that way...
SimpTheChimp said:
Crap... so we are saying any Android tablet is basically a one-user tablet? It's weird that Google would build it that way...
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Especially considering Linux has no issue supporting multiple users.
Well, shucks, I guess I won't be getting a tablet. I don't feel like buying two of them...
I found out that even the iPad is the same way! Bad design for tablets, Google and Apple. (Although I love my Android phone - that was why I was looking at the Acer tablet!)
Provided you're not having an affair, and email would be the main thing you'd want compartmentalized, you could just use two different email apps or no?
The current state of tablet OS's is really smartphones writ large. They're (again, currently) very personal electronics. There are a handful of Windows-based tablets which should support multiple user profiles etc, but they tend to suffer from GUIs intended for larger monitors & smaller pointers (single pixel precision mice and/or stylus.)
While linux certainly has no problem with simultaneous users, much less multiple profiles, keep in mind we're dealing with systems which have problems dealing with expandable memory (again, only at this time.) At least Android has SD card support without an external add-on.
Given enough feedback from users, eventually tablet OS makers will design in multiple user profiles, probably starting with apps & profiles loaded off memory cards or from "the cloud". But I wouldn't honestly expect it to happen until tablets became very thin internet clients.
For now the tablet market is still very much in an early adoption phase, no one's really sure of the "final" shape of tablets and their usage at this time, but coming at them from a "more portable laptop" design goal could lead to what you're looking for.
TLDR: Not yet aside from Windows tablets but eventually, maybe
This could be an interesting dev project for someone. Isn't it just a case of having an app that would remount /data depending on the selected user? Granted root would be required for it to work but it certainly sounds feasible.
I certainly don't have the time or skill to do this myself, but I will throw this around in the dev forum to see what people with actual skill and knowledge of Android/Linux think.
I saw something about multiple user handling.... It is in a "how to" document posted by L.t.r. consulting. (I'm to new on XDA to be allowed to post outside links, so you have to Google it)
It is made for the Nook Color device but could be at god starting point.
Email should be no problem. The stock Email client will allow you to link to multiple Email accounts, so as long as both have individual Email accounts, they can read them seperately. They would not be able to keep each other out of thier Email since it is in the same client. Also, if they use WEB mail, they can then read thier mail without allowing the other on thier account. As for browsing, I believe that some of the browsers allow grouping of links, so each could setup thier own group with thier own links.
This might be the answer until multi accounts are added natively to the tablets.
http://www.enterproid.com/index.html
I use my Iconia together with my wife and I just set up an extra gmail account so she can read her mail alongside mine. It's important not to want to hide anything from eachother in such a setup though. I also found a twitterclient that allows to setup multiple accounts (tweetcaster). So, in the end it's doable but not practical.
There is an issue on the Android bug tracker which you can star to help raise awareness of the lack of multi-user support
(I can't post links which is irritating, but...)
code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=15030
The Viewsonic Tablet has multi-user functionality.
I would have thought it would be stock in all. Maybe it's in a custom ROM. I'll gop look.
dan
SimpTheChimp said:
Well, shucks, I guess I won't be getting a tablet. I don't feel like buying two of them...
I found out that even the iPad is the same way! Bad design for tablets, Google and Apple. (Although I love my Android phone - that was why I was looking at the Acer tablet!)
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Lol, there is an aplication called Switch Me, here in xda in the themes forum, is in beta fase but it makes what youre looking for, an they need testers so I think you need to give a try on this.

Keeping WP8 Samsung Ativ

after 3 months with the Ativ WP8 I start thinking to change to android (eventually Galaxy4) for good reasons
1. Incomplete BT stack - no keyboard to connect or certain consoles
2. Miserable sync with Outlook and One-Notes
3. Limited camera functions - e.g. where to save and to transfer to a PC)
4. Cannot use DropBox
5. Useless letters in apps
6. Want not and cannot allow certain info an the cloud (SkyDrive)
7. Calendar - no weekly, daily and to-do app
8. No basic info like battery status, signal strength, Wi-Fi visible as a top bar
9. Better organization for apps, e.g. based on importance and not just one long list to scroll, why not at least two
I am aware that WP8 is a great improvement and with good tools, but I have to decide what serves my daily needs the best. Is there any major update in the next few months to expect. Any suggestions
Not sure if trolling or just ...
Sell it to me.
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Not sure if trolling or just ...
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Not trolling mate, this isn't windowsphonecentral. You're not going to get an army of windows phone enthusiasts trying to go against this guy.
Lol trolls.
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Not trolling mate, this isn't windowsphonecentral. You're not going to get an army of windows phone enthusiasts trying to go against this guy.[/QUOT]
Given his reasons, I am 100% convinced he is either a troll or too stupid to use a smartphone, in which case, Android/WP/IOS won't make much of a difference.
So I think he is a troll.
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I mean it is very difficult to find the signal strength
If you're not happy with how the phone handles things and if it can't do certain things you need it to do the best way to go is to sell the phone and get one that does. Given that you already tried to find solutions for some of those things and found out that they could not be done differently on WP you are left with only two options:
- live with how things are done/can be done (e.g. Jump Lists in the App List, pinning important Apps to the Start Screen)
- get rid of the phone and use something else in the hopes of it doing things the way you want them done
You can be sure not a troll nor stupid. I use mobile phones from the beginning and can very well distinguish pros and cons. We can and do build out own servers and use the phone as a business tool. Just see what MS did with the BT stack, incomplete, you cannot connect a simple keyboard which is needed when taking notes in conferences, Using the cloud for confidential information is a nono, DropBox does not work with WP8.... Me or someone else calling stupid shows where your standard is.
When I make a final decision to sell the phone you will be the first for an offer. It will come with a nice black leather case open front and 32 GB SD card. I need some additional research to find the right solution.
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after 3 months with the Ativ WP8 I start thinking to change to android (eventually Galaxy4) for good reasons
1. Incomplete BT stack - no keyboard to connect or certain consoles
2. Miserable sync with Outlook and One-Notes
3. Limited camera functions - e.g. where to save and to transfer to a PC)
4. Cannot use DropBox
5. Useless letters in apps
6. Want not and cannot allow certain info an the cloud (SkyDrive)
7. Calendar - no weekly, daily and to-do app
8. No basic info like battery status, signal strength, Wi-Fi visible as a top bar
9. Better organization for apps, e.g. based on importance and not just one long list to scroll, why not at least two
I am aware that WP8 is a great improvement and with good tools, but I have to decide what serves my daily needs the best. Is there any major update in the next few months to expect. Any suggestions
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So to avoid wasting more thread space criticizing OP:
1. Yes, the BT stack is limited, but what's there works well (other phones have all sorts of issues with BT freezing on connect, etc.)
2. If by "Outlook," you mean Outlook.com or an Exchange server, nothing syncs better with those than WP; same with OneNote; the only thing that would make sense is if you mean data stored in a local PST on the desktop Outlook app, which WP doesn't directly sync to-- valid point, but other platforms don't do native sync at all (or very well) either, so the only real comparison point is Windows Mobile 6.x lol; if you do want to do local Outlook syncing, try Akruto Sync
3. What's limited? Plug in a USB cable, or open your SkyDrive folder, and it's all there
4. Actually you can-- see the "Boxfiles" app
5. Don't know what you mean
6. Don't know what you mean
7. The Calendar app has daily, agenda, and month views, along with to-dos- what more are you looking for?
8. All of that is in the top bar- just tap it
9. That's what start screen pinning is for; the list itself has alphabetical and search functions
Good answer, but please see that DropBox (will try Boxfiles App)or Team Viewer or Dragon and other do not work, As an attorney- (working with very sensitive data) I cannot have data from clients in a cloud, I could loose my shirt. I need a weekly calendar which also shows to do and notes like in Outlook.. OneNote on the PC is not fully compatible with OneNote in WP8. I made it work, but it is a work around. In the list of Apps I have at least 10 single letters and when you click on it, it opens the full alphabet, nothing else. SkyDrive is for me only of limit use, A BT Keyboard is a deal breaker, I use the phone in meetings to take notes which later will be part of a client electronic file. Samsung Ativ is a nice phone, basically I like it, but it has to assist and function in my daily work. I do not care to store a lot of music or videos. Miss a good file manager. You mention the top bar, not on the Samsung above the tiles. It shows only the time. Imagine you have a fight with the IRS for hundred of thousand of $$ and I would as your attorney leave documents in your case on SkyDrive.
Thanks and have a great day with your coffee.
By the way, I am for over 10 years a MS Partner.
[email protected] said:
Good answer, but please see that DropBox (will try Boxfiles App)or Team Viewer or Dragon and other do not work, As an attorney- (working with very sensitive data) I cannot have data from clients in a cloud, I could loose my shirt. I need a weekly calendar which also shows to do and notes like in Outlook.. OneNote on the PC is not fully compatible with OneNote in WP8. I made it work, but it is a work around. In the list of Apps I have at least 10 single letters and when you click on it, it opens the full alphabet, nothing else. SkyDrive is for me only of limit use, A BT Keyboard is a deal breaker, I use the phone in meetings to take notes which later will be part of a client electronic file. Samsung Ativ is a nice phone, basically I like it, but it has to assist and function in my daily work. I do not care to store a lot of music or videos. Miss a good file manager. You mention the top bar, not on the Samsung above the tiles. It shows only the time. Imagine you have a fight with the IRS for hundred of thousand of $$ and I would as your attorney leave documents in your case on SkyDrive.
Thanks and have a great day with your coffee.
By the way, I am for over 10 years a MS Partner.
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Thanks
On the top bar, if you tap anywhere in the bar (on the time or anywhere to the left of it), the cell + Wifi + BT + battery status show up. They disappear after a few seconds in the interest of clean design (then show up only when there's a problem, like no signal or low battery). On the app list, in addition to the alphabetical jump-list, there's also a search button at the top-left.
The Calendar app has to-dos (see the "to-do" tab to the right of "agenda"). Week view is indeed missing-- MS should prob implement it in landscape view, as Apple did when it added week view in iOS 5. You can sort of approximate it by tapping month view -> day for each day of the week. Something weird about the month view is that if you look at it carefully on a 720p device in landscape, you'll notice the number of items matches how many you have scheduled for that day, but the actual text is gibberish (lorem ipsum) instead of your actual items, since it's not meant to be visible haha.
I've been a pretty heavy OneNote user- the WP8 app is not the full desktop app by any means, but it's better than what you get on Android or iOS. The local file manager issue is valid-- WP8 does not expose the file system in the interest of simplicity, which does make things less flexible than, say, Windows Mobile. I use SkyDrive as a sort of local drive, since everything in WP8 can save there-- but if you have concerns with consumer cloud services (SkyDrive, Dropbox, Box, Google Drive, etc.) being subpoenable, etc., that's a valid concern.
There is some motion in that space, though-- I know of many law firms that have switched to Office 365 for Exchange/Sharepoint/etc. (which is a lot more data than just files in SkyDrive), since the uptime and security is actually better than what they had in-house (http://www.microsoftbusinesshub.com/Industries/Legal). That includes "SkyDrive Pro," the Sharepoint file store.
If I can suggest something, take a look at the Surface RT, with the Type Cover. You'll get a full-blown Windows experience, with local files, full-blown Office 2013 (minus x86 macros) with desktop OneNote, etc., and a great keyboard, but 10-hour battery life, in a 1.5 lb form factor. There's a TeamViewer app for WinRT, and you can access almost anything a full PC can (here on XDA, people have even ported x86 desktop apps and an x86 emulator). I generally carry the Surface + WP8 everywhere now-- phone for quick stuff and Surface for longer content.
[email protected] said:
Good answer, but please see that DropBox (will try Boxfiles App)or Team Viewer or Dragon and other do not work, As an attorney- (working with very sensitive data) I cannot have data from clients in a cloud, I could loose my shirt. I need a weekly calendar which also shows to do and notes like in Outlook.. OneNote on the PC is not fully compatible with OneNote in WP8. I made it work, but it is a work around. In the list of Apps I have at least 10 single letters and when you click on it, it opens the full alphabet, nothing else. SkyDrive is for me only of limit use, A BT Keyboard is a deal breaker, I use the phone in meetings to take notes which later will be part of a client electronic file. Samsung Ativ is a nice phone, basically I like it, but it has to assist and function in my daily work. I do not care to store a lot of music or videos. Miss a good file manager. You mention the top bar, not on the Samsung above the tiles. It shows only the time. Imagine you have a fight with the IRS for hundred of thousand of $$ and I would as your attorney leave documents in your case on SkyDrive.
Thanks and have a great day with your coffee.
By the way, I am for over 10 years a MS Partner.
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U couldnt have data from ur clients on a cloud? Then u shouldnt use android
And if u want not to use Skydrive with Onenote u can also create Offline Word Documents and write down ur Meeting Information there.
And what exactly isnt working with One Note on PC and ur Phone?
But for what r u using dropbox? Isnt that a cloud too?
After u press a Letter in the Apps Menu the Alphabet is show so u can select the Letter u want ur App starts with.
For the Topbar u can always touch on the Clock to get the Whole Topbar shown with all Informations.
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You can be sure not a troll nor stupid. I use mobile phones from the beginning and can very well distinguish pros and cons. We can and do build out own servers and use the phone as a business tool. Just see what MS did with the BT stack, incomplete, you cannot connect a simple keyboard which is needed when taking notes in conferences, Using the cloud for confidential information is a nono, DropBox does not work with WP8.... Me or someone else calling stupid shows where your standard is.
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Androids bt stack is also incomplete. Most of the other things you mention are there. If its trully business usage you want then buy a WM device, not even your beloved android comes close to wm. The only thing wm doesn't do better is games and video playback and most of that is down to crap drivers from the oems
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Thanks for your answer but you should not imply like "not even your beloved android comes close to wm" never used it. You asked "And what exactly isnt working with One Note on PC and ur Phone?" On the PC I have in One Note a personal and office section. The office section can only be seen with Sky Drive.Why not having both section direct in the Phones One Note without Sky Drive. Any suggestion? I guess it is possible but do not know to get it done. It seems Logitech will bring a compatible Keyboard for the Ativ,
Calendar, I use Week View 8 what does the most I need, but you cannot change there appointments or to dos, you have to go through agenda.. We have Office 365 and have until today nit made a final decision.A replacement for Team Viewer not found except you run it through Internet Explorer.I will always listen and learn and keep things in an appropriate way.
[email protected] said:
Thanks for your answer but you should not imply like "not even your beloved android comes close to wm" never used it. You asked "And what exactly isnt working with One Note on PC and ur Phone?" On the PC I have in One Note a personal and office section. The office section can only be seen with Sky Drive.Why not having both section direct in the Phones One Note without Sky Drive. Any suggestion? I guess it is possible but do not know to get it done. It seems Logitech will bring a compatible Keyboard for the Ativ,
Calendar, I use Week View 8 what does the most I need, but you cannot change there appointments or to dos, you have to go through agenda.. We have Office 365 and have until today nit made a final decision.A replacement for Team Viewer not found except you run it through Internet Explorer.I will always listen and learn and keep things in an appropriate way.
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I like vnc better then teamviewer personally. Ive never had as problem with one note or outlook syncing. I also enjoy the android os on my tablet. Perhaps that might be a solution for you. I use my Aviv s to provide internet to my android tablet.
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[email protected] said:
Good answer, but please see that DropBox (will try Boxfiles App)or Team Viewer or Dragon and other do not work, As an attorney- (working with very sensitive data) I cannot have data from clients in a cloud, I could loose my shirt. I need a weekly calendar which also shows to do and notes like in Outlook.. OneNote on the PC is not fully compatible with OneNote in WP8. I made it work, but it is a work around. In the list of Apps I have at least 10 single letters and when you click on it, it opens the full alphabet, nothing else. SkyDrive is for me only of limit use, A BT Keyboard is a deal breaker, I use the phone in meetings to take notes which later will be part of a client electronic file. Samsung Ativ is a nice phone, basically I like it, but it has to assist and function in my daily work. I do not care to store a lot of music or videos. Miss a good file manager. You mention the top bar, not on the Samsung above the tiles. It shows only the time. Imagine you have a fight with the IRS for hundred of thousand of $$ and I would as your attorney leave documents in your case on SkyDrive.
Thanks and have a great day with your coffee.
By the way, I am for over 10 years a MS Partner.
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If there is one thing that WP does infinitely better than Android, that is protecting your privacy.
Hell, on android you can even get spyware and trojan downloaded from the marketplace, and you will never even know it. If you want privacy, go for WP and stick with it.
mcosmin222 said:
If there is one thing that WP does infinitely better than Android, that is protecting your privacy.
Hell, on android you can even get spyware and trojan downloaded from the marketplace, and you will never even know it. If you want privacy, go for WP and stick with it.
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LOL.......it seems that 95% of WP apps require access to your location, and they send this also to Microsoft. Having access to my location is fine, as long as it makes sense.
Darkjamzi said:
LOL.......it seems that 95% of WP apps require access to your location, and they send this also to Microsoft. Having access to my location is fine, as long as it makes sense.
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cause yeh LOL google maps location process doesn't run like 100% if time in the background on ANY android phone.

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