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I'm planning on buying the 4gb 128gb version from aliexpress, but there's no vanilla android(Pure stock android) rom for this phone. The reason why I want stock Android is because I need Gravitybox as it's a must when I get a new phone. So will we see an AOSP rom anytime soon?
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Only if you make for us.
No. Buy a OnePlus 3T. Or an HTC 10. Or an Honor 8, they have a mostly fully working cm13 ROM.
abdi7451 said:
No. Buy a OnePlus 3T. Or an HTC 10. Or an Honor 8, they have a mostly fully working cm13 ROM.
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I was thinking of buying one of those as well but they all have dealbreaking issues.
OnePlus 3T: Poor display for VR
HTC 10: Too small
Honor 8: No 4K recording
Guess I'm stuck with the Axon 7.
flamingspartan3 said:
I was thinking of buying one of those as well but they all have dealbreaking issues.
OnePlus 3T: Poor display for VR
HTC 10: Too small
Honor 8: No 4K recording
Guess I'm stuck with the Axon 7.
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And software is a bigger deal breaker than all of those things you've mentioned. At the end of the day, you do whatever you want to do, but the Axon 7 isn't as good as any of those mentioned phones, solely on the software experience and dev community.
We have an almost working CM13 that many use as daily driver and, IMHO, CM does not need Gravitybox (I agree AOSP badly needs it).
But if I could go back, I would take a harder look at OP3T for exactly the software issue.
kenturky said:
I'm planning on buying the 4gb 128gb version from aliexpress, but there's no vanilla android(Pure stock android) rom for this phone. The reason why I want stock Android is because I need Gravitybox as it's a must when I get a new phone. So will we see an AOSP rom anytime soon?
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Gravity box works except for the quick settings tweaks.
Hola
Just to add my experience, I was one of those who really was interested in the Axon 7 since it was announced earlier this year (MWC 2016 in Feb??), so I purchased it the instant it was released. The hardware is undoubtedly top notch except:
1. The crappy capacitive buttons that are placed too close together.
2. Stupid vibration setup - Either on or off with no vibration intensity configuration.
3. Non-existent granular volume level controls - Yes you can increase or decrease the overall volume, but the increments are too far apart (this could be a software limitation though).
So I've used it for a month or so but because of the lack of a near complete AOSP or CM based ROM (mostly due to ZTE's slowness in providing source and a number of proprietary blobs), I really yearned for my ability to try different ROMs and flash different add-ons like I was accustomed to. So I end up buying the OnePlus 3T. Man it was nice to use and experience a phone that can garner so many devs. If only the 3T had dual front facing speakers, expandable storage, and that QHD res screen, then it would have been the best of the best in my opinion.
I am now back to using the Axon 7 using one of those slightly modified ZTE based ROMs with Xposed. I consume a lot of media on my phone. I still keep my 3T for testing out new dev ROMs like RR or CM.
Seems like OEMs can't make a phone that provides great hardware (e.g. A7) while providing access to firmware sources and letting dev community to thrive.
lafester said:
Only if you make for us.
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Sorry bruh, I'm not a developer, and I didn't like programming much. Someone should port a stock rom from Oneplus 3/3t to this phone instead. That would be great.
abdi7451 said:
No. Buy a OnePlus 3T. Or an HTC 10. Or an Honor 8, they have a mostly fully working cm13 ROM.
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Oneplus 3T? Nope, no card slot. HTC 10, overpriced junk, and single sim. Honor 8, Hisilicon Kirin, nope. I prefer snapdragon because most apps on the play store, and some special features are made uniquely for snapdragon chips.
Not interested in cm13/14 because I can't use gravitybox on it.
So the Axon 7 is a great buy. The 4gb/128gb version if sold in most countries will actually sell like hot cakes.
nupi said:
We have an almost working CM13 that many use as daily driver and, IMHO, CM does not need Gravitybox (I agree AOSP badly needs it).
But if I could go back, I would take a harder look at OP3T for exactly the software issue.
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No CM13 doesn't need gravitybox, but I find more features on gravitybox than on CM13. CM13 doesn't work really well with gravitybox as I'm using it on my current phone till Rovo builds xposed for Android 7.1, and I'm currently experiencing some automatic shutdowns on this rom. I own a Jiayu s3,(Has a mediatek chipset)and I'm looking to upgrade to the Axon 7 because of the amazing speakers and the camera.
On the CM13 thread, it says that the GPS is working, but something is written about QC location. What's QC there?
awsomjgp said:
Gravity box works except for the quick settings tweaks.
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I actually need the quick settings tweaks because I need the switcher. 2g only, 3g only, 4g only, 4g/3g. It's important because sometimes the phone automatically switches from 4g to 3g if it thinks the 4g signal is less. And 4g uses band 3, 1800MHz whereas 3g uses 2100MHz(no clue about the band number here).
So I need to keep it on 4g only in this case.
And in some areas, neither 4g nor 3g is available, so I'll have to make do with 2g.
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Qualcomm izat doesn't work but then again that is mostly superfluous if you have Google services.
Right now, GPS works on Cm13 but is not super accurate {probably 20 meters or so}
kenturky said:
I'm planning on buying the 4gb 128gb version from aliexpress, but there's no vanilla android(Pure stock android) rom for this phone. The reason why I want stock Android is because I need Gravitybox as it's a must when I get a new phone. So will we see an AOSP rom anytime soon?
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Come on now people, we all know how it works by now. They are fixing some issues on CM13 as we speak. Once CM13 is made official, the custom rom flood gates will open. Give it time.
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. The reason why I want stock Android is because I need Gravitybox as it's a must when I get a new phone.
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Gravity Box work perfect on Stock Rom, no need of AOSP ROM for GB to work.
Gravity Box and App Settings (v1.13) are my have to have modules in Xposed and they work great.
IMO the axon 7 is better than the one plus 3 or honor 8 (in terms of hardware) but the lack of roms is definitely a deal breaker for some people. However in about a week or so I'm going to start working on porting AOSP to the axon 7. Iv'e never ported a rom before so I can't make any promises on when it'll be done (if ever lol). I know a thing or two about programming so I think I'll be able to figure something out, so stay tuned!
andrew97b said:
IMO the axon 7 is better than the one plus 3 or honor 8 (in terms of hardware) but the lack of roms is definitely a deal breaker for some people.
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You took the words right out of my mouth my mouth bruh.
However in about a week or so I'm going to start working on porting AOSP to the axon 7. Iv'e never ported a rom before so I can't make any promises on when it'll be done (if ever lol). I know a thing or two about programming so I think I'll be able to figure something out, so stay tuned!
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It wouldn't be easy starting out now, and it'll take a while. You could start by heading over to the op3 thread and see any AOSP Marshmallow rom.
Then maybe ask in the Q&A section for porting this rom to the Axon 7.
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kenturky said:
I'm planning on buying the 4gb 128gb version from aliexpress, but there's no vanilla android(Pure stock android) rom for this phone. The reason why I want stock Android is because I need Gravitybox as it's a must when I get a new phone. So will we see an AOSP rom anytime soon?
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Gravitybox works on the stock OS.
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Gravitybox works on the stock OS.
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Oh well, do the quick settings tweaks like 2g/3g/4g switcher(network mode) work on the stock rom?
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kenturky said:
Oh well, do the quick settings tweaks like 2g/3g/4g switcher(network mode) work on the stock rom?
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I can find it in which menu ?
EDIT: No, playing with quicktiles messed with the boot. I see the lockscreen wallpaper and then the screen turns off/on/off/on/off...
XblackdemonX said:
I can find it in which menu ?
EDIT: No, playing with quicktiles messed with the boot. I see the lockscreen wallpaper and then the screen turns off/on/off/on/off...
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Damn. Yeah it interfered with the system quicksettings, and caused a bootloop. I think I might have to go with the CM13 rom in this case.
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tabletalker7 said:
Come on now people, we all know how it works by now. They are fixing some issues on CM13 as we speak. Once CM13 is made official, the custom rom flood gates will open. Give it time.
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Same thing happened with cm14 for the Moto X pure, once it got finished, more and more 7.1.1 roms started flooding in xD.
Hello,
Many people already asked this question on many other forums, and they have been blamed by everyone because people consider stupid to buy an A1 and ask for a MIUI when you have Mi 5x that's identical and already run MIUI rom.
THOSE PHONES ARE NOT IDENTICAL
In fact, A1 runs LTE (4g) bands that Mi 5X doesn't have. In Italy the majority of the LTE is on Band 20 for example, and this is the reason why A1 is having lot of success like the other phones with a GLOBAL version (Redmi 4x/Redmi Note 4 Global etc).
What we're asking for is not a rom: the rom already exists.
What we're asking for is not a porting: the phone's HW is THE SAME so there's no need to work or fix anything.
We just need a way, a tweak, a solution, a trick, a "something" to avoid the A/B partition problem and flash the xiaomi.eu rom for Mi 5x on A1 to have a FULLY UNLOCKED phone that can use ALL THE LTE BANDS and also all the advantages of the MIUI rom.
Can somebody help us, now that you know that's not only matter of "PLS port MIUI on A1 cuz it's beautiful plz plz plz"
As italian, i'm totally afree with you...i just want the MIUI features and the 20 LTE band.
timeless241285 said:
Hello,
Many people already asked this question on many other forums, and they have been blamed by everyone because people consider stupid to buy an A1 and ask for a MIUI when you have Mi 5x that's identical and already run MIUI rom.
THOSE PHONES ARE NOT IDENTICAL
In fact, A1 runs LTE (4g) bands that Mi 5X doesn't have. In Italy the majority of the LTE is on Band 20 for example, and this is the reason why A1 is having lot of success like the other phones with a GLOBAL version (Redmi 4x/Redmi Note 4 Global etc).
What we're asking for is not a rom: the rom already exists.
What we're asking for is not a porting: the phone's HW is THE SAME so there's no need to work or fix anything.
We just need a way, a tweak, a solution, a trick, a "something" to avoid the A/B partition problem and flash the xiaomi.eu rom for Mi 5x on A1 to have a FULLY UNLOCKED phone that can use ALL THE LTE BANDS and also all the advantages of the MIUI rom.
Can somebody help us, now that you know that's not only matter of "PLS port MIUI on A1 cuz it's beautiful plz plz plz"
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But still, why do you need Miui so badly when you have stock Android ? Because of special features like dt2w and so ? That will come here also when custom kernel arrive.
NITRO_100 said:
But still, why do you need Miui so badly when you have stock Android ? Because of special features like dt2w and so ? That will come here also when custom kernel arrive.
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MIUI has an optimisation than stock Android hasn't. RAM cleaner on the Recent tabs, Security Center, Built-in call recording, sound recorder, dual space (that for dual SIM it's very important) and many others and features..
I guess when kernel source is available developer will be able to port miui regardless of band and any other limitations..
jack_21 said:
MIUI has an optimisation than stock Android hasn't. RAM cleaner on the Recent tabs, Security Center, Built-in call recording, sound recorder, dual space (that for dual SIM it's very important) and many others and features..
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Miui has very aggressive optimization that I hated, because many apps had misbehaved, I always turn that off. Ram cleaner is nonsense but you have it in stock android too. The options in security center, call recording, sound recorder can be achieved by 3rd party apps. Dual space is like 2nd account.
Don't get me wrong, I generally like miui but there isn't any option that I miss, and multitasking is way better in stock android, apps doesn't get killed after 10 minutes.
Stop forcing your opinion on others by asking why do we need MIUI when have stock android which is better. It is just basic preference. I like MIUI over stock android and perhaps over any custom rom. It is personal taste.
Do I know that MIUI is not as optimized as stock android? YES.
Do I still want it? YES.
IamSubhodeep said:
Stop forcing your opinion on others by asking why do we need MIUI when have stock android which is better. It is just basic preference. I like MIUI over stock android and perhaps over any custom rom. It is personal taste.
Do I know that MIUI is not as optimized as stock android? YES.
Do I still want it? YES.
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Stop asking for miui on an Android stock phone. Go for the mi5x instead , i know it lacks the B20 but life is hard.:good:
jlmcr87 said:
Stop asking for miui on an Android stock phone. Go for the mi5x instead , i know it lacks the B20 but life is hard.:good:
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We don't come on the XDA for philosophy classes. :|
I really hope that we'll be able to run MIUI on this device.
I already own a Mi A1.
IamSubhodeep said:
Stop forcing your opinion on others by asking why do we need MIUI when have stock android which is better. It is just basic preference. I like MIUI over stock android and perhaps over any custom rom. It is personal taste.
Do I know that MIUI is not as optimized as stock android? YES.
Do I still want it? YES.
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I guess that was meant for me (next time pls quote me). Well I have my opinion an I feel free to share it, as you share yours which I appreciate.
I still think that there is nothing that miui has that can not be achieved in stock android. It's just the cosmetics that bothers you. You knew that this phone is pure android, you knew that it has 2 partitions and you should have researched if there is miui rom/port available before you purchased it. Or better, you should purchased it when miui rom/port eventually will be available. And there are good phones from Xiaomi (global ones) even cheaper than this with Miui 9.
Btw, I believe someone (maybe you) will port miui after xiaomi release kernel source, but then we would be allready on Oreo.
NITRO_100 said:
I guess that was meant for me (next time pls quote me). Well I have my opinion an I feel free to share it, as you share yours which I appreciate.
I still think that there is nothing that miui has that can not be achieved in stock android. It's just the cosmetics that bothers you. You knew that this phone is pure android, you knew that it has 2 partitions and you should have researched if there is miui rom/port available before you purchased it. Or better, you should purchased it when miui rom/port eventually will be available. And there are good phones from Xiaomi (global ones) even cheaper than this with Miui 9.
Btw, I believe someone (maybe you) will port miui after xiaomi release kernel source, but then we would be allready on Oreo.
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It was not meant for you specifically. I have seen people bashing the MIUI users with the same comment on multiple forums.
And about porting, I know nothing about it. Waiting for you people to do that. I'll be grateful.
NITRO_100 said:
I still think that there is nothing that miui has that can not be achieved in stock android.
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Ok, then show me how can I achieve built in XiaomiAccount, Mi Cloud/Gallery, Mi App store, Xiaomi Notes, etc...
I don't care about the bells and whistles if these services working good!
And that fine grained permission management would be good, not that simple dull one from stock android.
Upo_hu said:
Ok, then show me how can I achieve built in XiaomiAccount, Mi Cloud/Gallery, Mi App store, Xiaomi Notes, etc...
I don't care about the bells and whistles if these services working good!
And that fine grained permission management would be good, not that simple dull one from stock android.
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And how is all that different then Google account, drive, photos, play store, keep which all are working great if not better then miui (especially the web versions) ? As I said, there is nothing in miui that can't be replaced. And what do you mean by dull permission management ?
And there are 2 ways of how you can achieve that: wait till xiaomi release kernel source and try to port miui rom, or get a global version (if you are in Europe) of some other Xiaomi device.
timeless241285 said:
Hello,
Many people already asked this question on many other forums, and they have been blamed by everyone because people consider stupid to buy an A1 and ask for a MIUI when you have Mi 5x that's identical and already run MIUI rom.
THOSE PHONES ARE NOT IDENTICAL
In fact, A1 runs LTE (4g) bands that Mi 5X doesn't have. In Italy the majority of the LTE is on Band 20 for example, and this is the reason why A1 is having lot of success like the other phones with a GLOBAL version (Redmi 4x/Redmi Note 4 Global etc).
What we're asking for is not a rom: the rom already exists.
What we're asking for is not a porting: the phone's HW is THE SAME so there's no need to work or fix anything.
We just need a way, a tweak, a solution, a trick, a "something" to avoid the A/B partition problem and flash the xiaomi.eu rom for Mi 5x on A1 to have a FULLY UNLOCKED phone that can use ALL THE LTE BANDS and also all the advantages of the MIUI rom.
Can somebody help us, now that you know that's not only matter of "PLS port MIUI on A1 cuz it's beautiful plz plz plz"
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Although I am not sure but I think that using Qualcomm Flash Tools you should be able to install Mi 5X ROM with Mi 5X partition table and get it up and running, but if these devices aren't that similar inside then you can end up with a hard brick. After flashing using QFIL you might have to flash Mi A1 modem for A1 band support...
PS: Don't do this and backup EFS and other critical partitions if you decide to do it anyway
But if we flash (on one of the a/b partition so you can set active the other in case you have make disaster) only the system and boot partition from Mi 5x fastboot official room, it may be enough?
Of course you will have to wipe data...
NITRO_100 said:
And there are 2 ways of how you can achieve that: wait till xiaomi release kernel source and try to port miui rom, or get a global version (if you are in Europe) of some other Xiaomi device.
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+1
The reason why I bought this phone is because I didn't want to throw 800e on Pixel, and I wanted a cheap phone with a pure android.This thing is a real successor of the Nexus line.
There are so many global versions of xiaomi devices outhere, that there is no need for this phone if all you want is a miui.But you can always try to port it. That's the beauty of development.
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Frankly, I don't know what is wrong for asking. Usually so called real technical people will tell people off if you want this why don't you buy that kind of argument. I see that the one that asks this question has nothing wrong. Everyone of us having such experience when we buy something from the market, we realise that there is a gap in functionality or even down the aesthetic feels, gestures or even some of the commands arrangement that looks stupid....etc, therefore, we asked for something we felt that has done very well, and wish that it could be done in this. If we always have to put up with what is in the box, we don't give the chance for the company to improve, and you ultimately don't help to improve the products.
After reading information from different forums, sometimes I felt sorry for those people who scoffed at people. Maybe you are protecting the brands, or protecting somethings that you feel so much attached to and disregard other people.
May I suggest that if you could not offer a better solutions, or if you think that this is not worth to do it. Just keep quiet and let other people try to answer. Or if you would like to encourage it, such as this example, a simple words like "I like the idea too!" will probably help. Words such as "No way there will be MIUI on Stock Android Phone...etc." If you believe so much about no way, would you willing to bet your neck on your chopping board? With enough incentives, someone will come out with a solution.
Sorry if I sound harsh, but this is how innovation and revolution comes about.
There is nothing wrong with asking. But there is everything wrong with asking the same question every day, in every section and always starting a new topic. You got the answer already, "currently not possible, if you want MIUI, but a device with MIUI". One would expect, that guys wanting MIUI will be satisfied, but no. They'll just create a new topic and ask the same question over and over again. If someone ports MIUI to A1, I'm pretty sure that there will be a proper topic and announcment for that.
Btw. words like "I want it too" can maybe help you to find similarly frustrated people, but that's it. Xiaomi won't read it. Google will not read it. Developers don't care, if they'll do it, it won't be because you want it (donation might be motivating though). Just look at Xposed for Nougat or Oreo topics, hundreds of useless posts like "waiting for an update..".
I would understand negative reactions if this thread would request Xiaomi to replace Android Stock with MIUI on all Mi A1 models for good! But it's addressed to developers on this forum and you'll loose nothing if someone will work on it. Why would you comment against it if you don't like or need MIUI on your phone?... This is beyond my understanding, but sadly the internet is full of this kind of thinking.
Dual app is a feature you can not have it in Stock as fully operational as in MIUI. Some apps (like FB Messenger) will not get push notifications on Stock for cloned apps.
You can use Second Space with one account and you don't have a replacement for this feature for now.
Permission Management is far more complex than even any Xposed module.
China build have Automated Task which again, no module could replace it, as for example: you can schedule to disable just vibrations and nothing else on a specific time of the day.
Notifications synced online.
Calculator with any kind of functions.
Call Recording.
One Hand Mode accessed by swiping from Home button to the left or right. You don't have to loose other functions using different shortcuts. (Double tap is just not efficient).
You have Wallpaper Carousel for your Lockscreen.
You can combine multiple themes to create your best appearance. Stock will never be as beautiful as MIUI can be, but that implies you have some taste for design and art.
All of this are BUILT IN and no root needed or any additional work!
I'm sure I have missed some other details, but when you love MIUI, you just need it, without any explanations. And a lot of Xiaomi phones doesn't have band 20 (800 Mhz) within this price range and specs.
Or maybe you just like to have them both available for your phone with Stock as official. Why's that wrong? ...
Absolutely agree! And additionally, all my data syced to mi cloud, just 1 click to restore. And it is unusable on android one. I too would buy a Mi 5x with B20 or A1 with miui!
So, OnePlus is going to release a new phone! People are excited and have forgotten about everything bad that happen with the previous devices. The PR machine started publishing "amazing" photos from the 5T camera (they did the same with the not-that-good OP5) and everyone is ready to open their wallets.
I just wanted to remind everyone about OnePlus privacy and security "mistakes", something that is usually ignored by the fancy YouTube reviewers and android related websites. This week we have a new security issue:
OnePlus Accidentally Pre-Installed an App that acts as a Backdoor to Root Access
Last month we learned that OxygenOS is Allegedly Data-mining Personally Identifiable Information for Analytics... And back in February someone discovered a bootloader issue that worked as a backdoor.
These days we use our phones for more than simple voice calls. We use apps that have access to important parts of our lives (banking, social networks, IoT, etc) and store a lot of information on our phones.
Security is important and it should be taken into consideration when buying a new phone.
I think most people here go out of their way to unlock their bootloader and root anyways.
So I'm pretty sure this topic in general here is pointless.
Nonetheless it is a valid point, though its not that meaningful here.
If you are really worried about security you'd go with a blackberry out a pixel
@Expliciate What I've seen with the 3/3T is that while many users use custom ROMs and are not affected by OOS issues, others just unlock their bootloader and use root, but stay on stock OOS or OOS beta.
I agree with you... the people that should be warned about these issues will not read this thread. Anyway, if we are aware of the problem maybe we will think twice before buying, suggesting or using Oneplus hardware or software.
@worldsoutro You don't have to be "really worried" about security to understand that something is wrong when people keep finding security holes on Oneplus software.
Three points keep me from jumping on board
No new snapdragon
Fingerprint sensor on the back
And finally ...what about jelly?
My two cents
I am wondering if anyone knows about any vulnerabilities/backdoors in the phone, outside of the Oxygen OS, such as in the aboot, sbl, etc.
Oxygen OS can be done away with, albeit by the power users.
This kind of app must be preinstalled on all devices by Google !!
Without root Android phone is useless for me, I would better to use nokia 3310 instead than.
I hope oneplus will rewrite this app and keep it for all generation of their phones.
S4turno said:
You don't have to be "really worried" about security to understand that something is wrong when people keep finding security holes on Oneplus software.
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I actually prefer people finding/reporting bugs with OnePlus caring for resolving the mentioned issues to people not finding/reporting bugs and/or a company which ignores them.
x111 said:
This kind of app must be preinstalled on all devices by Google !!
Without root Android phone is useless for me, I would better to use nokia 3310 instead than.
I hope oneplus will rewrite this app and keep it for all generation of their phones.
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My phone is rooted, it's one of the first things I do when I buy a new phone, but let's not turn another security fu** up into a good thing.
Oneplus devices are not just for "nerds" anymore. In the UK, for example, a network (O2) sell their phones just like they sell iPhones and Galaxys. They advertise on newspapers, trains, etc. Normal users, that use their phones for many things, don't know what TWRP or a custom ROM is. This is an issue.
By the way, the guy who found this app keeps posting new stuff on twitter: https://twitter.com/fs0c131y/status/930773795656396801
Rosa Elefant said:
I actually prefer people finding/reporting bugs with OnePlus caring for resolving the mentioned issues to people not finding/reporting bugs and/or a company which ignores them.
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And I agree, no software is bug free or completely secure and we all benefit when bugs are found and fixed.
The problem here is that some of these issues should never be there in the first place. Looking at the security holes from the past 2 years, it's clear to me that software is one of OnePlus weak points. For example, the bootloader problem that was fixed earlier this year was an amateur mistake... either that or they don't even know it could be an issue.
And it's not like people are not trying to find issues on Google's new Pixel or on Samsung's flagships... there's even a big market for that! But it's harder to find issues because these companies have people that know what they are doing.
I think something is wrong when using an aftermarket ROM is safer than using OxygenOS. We should be aware of these issues when buying something from them.
S4turno said:
And I agree, no software is bug free or completely secure and we all benefit when bugs are found and fixed.
The problem here is that some of these issues should never be there in the first place. Looking at the security holes from the past 2 years, it's clear to me that software is one of OnePlus weak points. For example, the bootloader problem that was fixed earlier this year was an amateur mistake... either that or they don't even know it could be an issue.
And it's not like people are not trying to find issues on Google's new Pixel or on Samsung's flagships... there's even a big market for that! But it's harder to find issues because these companies have people that know what they are doing.
I think something is wrong when using an aftermarket ROM is safer than using OxygenOS. We should be aware of these issues when buying something from them.
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While I can see a use for this you have to keep something in mind. All devices sold from China based companies will always have something like this. Mainly die to the laws requiring monitoring software to be installed. This comes from their right to monitor everything their citzens do on line and with their mobile devices. It is part of the reason most China OEM are not allowed in places with high security needs.
Actually....I think Oxygen OS is ONEPLUS's biggest differentiator.
And it's excellent.
It's fast, it's smooth, no-one does updates better.
They will have to double down on security but nobody does software like ONEPLUS.
kolembo said:
It's fast, it's smooth, no-one does updates better.
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"Fast and smooth" are two of the major gains of Android 7. Even my old(ish) LG is still adequately fast and smooth. :good:
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Actually....I think Oxygen OS is ONEPLUS's biggest differentiator.
And it's excellent.
It's fast, it's smooth, no-one does updates better.
They will have to double down on security but nobody does software like ONEPLUS.
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That is open for debate. I personally think it is one of the worst available. If you really think it is fast and fluid you should try an aosp based rom.
How do the Slim ROMs perform on OnePlus?
zelendel said:
While I can see a use for this you have to keep something in mind. All devices sold from China based companies will always have something like this. Mainly die to the laws requiring monitoring software to be installed. This comes from their right to monitor everything their citzens do on line and with their mobile devices. It is part of the reason most China OEM are not allowed in places with high security needs.
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So, all these issues are related to OOS. Is it likely to be present in custom ROMs too as they too use kernel codes released by Oneplus? Thinking of buying OP 5T.
unos21 said:
So, all these issues are related to OOS. Is it likely to be present in custom ROMs too as they too use kernel codes released by Oneplus? Thinking of buying OP 5T.
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Not all issues are OS related. For example, the bootloader issue from Feb 2017 couldn't be fixed with a custom ROM.
Things like analytics and shady apps are not present on very well know custom ROMs not based on OxygenOS (LineageOS, OmniROM, Paranoid Android, etc), but keep in mind that the camera quality will never be as good as stock.
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So, all these issues are related to OOS. Is it likely to be present in custom ROMs too as they too use kernel codes released by Oneplus? Thinking of buying OP 5T.
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Yes but most of the code is not kernel related. Very little of it is. It is in the format of "services" and hidden apks like the last one found.
Not gonna lie, I purchased a OnePlus One because of the development community. I usually flash a different ROM straight away.
I bought a OnePlus 5 hoping that would be the same situation. It's not. Don't get me wrong, it's not bad, but it's not like my Nexus phone.
The OnePlus 5T? My understanding is that until the 21st of November, there is a media embargo. After that, there will be more information about the device.
I'll make a decision after that.
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My understanding is that until the 21st of November, there is a media embargo.
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Depends on how usual the reviewer models are.
Just received the August Security patch for the Mi A2 here in Austria.
Got it in France, no change spotted... at least bug for setting suggestions' still there, but I never really expected Xiaomi would ever fix it now.
I'm not sure I'd take a new Xiaomi phone even if it was given for free....
I also received it...
The hardware difference and issues in the devices are not so much. The most important become the software. If they want to be leading supplier they should handle that.
Received in India too. Thankfully no new bugs are developed by Xiaomi this time.
funny how now we hope for no new bugs instead of hoping for fixes...
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funny how now we hope for no new bugs instead of hoping for fixes...
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Xiaomi has no intention of making Android One better than Miui. Since I installed lineage os it feels like a diferent phone, now I'm expecting and getting timely fixes.
Patched boot anyone ?
Tbone69 said:
Xiaomi has no intention of making Android One better than Miui. Since I installed lineage os it feels like a diferent phone, now I'm expecting and getting timely fixes.
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they're not supposed to create it from nothing. it's good'ol stock aosp. that's why i don't get them. fixing anything should be way easier. maintaining a good version and testing it should be much much easier. like you say, lineage is community run, it has more changes from aosp then the stock android one and you're having a better time on it. whereas xiaomi with their "mighty" dev team can't fix a settings suggestion bug in 8 months. and yet they find the time to customize android, turn it into the miui abomination and maintain that joke for 40 devices.... i dont get it.
One stupid thing i noticed now updating Digital wellbeing notification every now and then and even i have turned it off this is so annoying
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Patched boot anyone ?
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just patch it with magisk manager
or
fastboot boot recovery.img
*use latest twrp recovery and boot it in fastboot ...backup everything to sd ...or otg usb and then patch boot with magisk manager
OR EVEN EASIER just flash magisk.zip straight
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I have accidentally installed August update without restoring stock image via magisk. Now I lost root. I can't find either stock or patched boot img anywhere for v11.0.13.0. does anyone have boot img for latest update
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just patch it with magisk manager
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Magisk manager will only patch the boot.img file, but I need to extract it somehow, and I don't know how :/
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fastboot boot recovery.img
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We can boot from twrp without instaling it ? Didn't know that !
can we juts boot latest twrp image and flash latest twrp zip?
after the update i get Digital Well being notification that "Digital well being updating" every other minutes or so and its already turned off access but draining a lot of battery over night
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they're not supposed to create it from nothing. it's good'ol stock aosp. that's why i don't get them. fixing anything should be way easier. maintaining a good version and testing it should be much much easier. like you say, lineage is community run, it has more changes from aosp then the stock android one and you're having a better time on it. whereas xiaomi with their "mighty" dev team can't fix a settings suggestion bug in 8 months. and yet they find the time to customize android, turn it into the miui abomination and maintain that joke for 40 devices.... i dont get it.
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Because miui is the image of the company.
ie: samsung - one ui,
apple - iOS,
huawei - emui.
Plus, xiaomi put ads in miui to generate income hence the cheap phone with good specs.
Edit: where as Android one is the image of Google and does not highlight the xiaomi brand hence xiaomi is restricted from doing too much cosmetic changes in Android one compare to miui,
They want minimal changes to Android one so that it wouldn't cannibalize the sales of redmi or Mi phones since Android ones is much better for being simple.
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Because miui is the image of the company.
ie: samsung - one ui,
apple - iOS,
huawei - emui.
Plus, xiaomi put ads in miui to generate income hence the cheap phone with good specs.
Edit: where as Android one is the image of Google and does not highlight the xiaomi brand hence xiaomi is restricted from doing too much cosmetic changes in Android one compare to miui,
They want minimal changes to Android one so that it wouldn't cannibalize the sales of redmi or Mi phones since Android ones is much better for being simple.
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What you say is true, but for me it's not an excuse for Xiaomi to deliver crappy software for their Android One phones. Nobody forced them to go to Android one, they chose to go there, they could do the minimum service of delivering a functional and bug-less phone.
Fixing the settings suggestion bug would be simple.
Enabling Camera2 API is a very simple change
etc...
So for bugs, no discussions.
For things like Camera2 API, if there's a reason like they did not want to pay some license or anything like that, then they could state it clearly so at least people know they should not have any hope.
In any case, I am never ever buying a Xiaomi phone when I change. A1 plus A2 taught me enough about that company...
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after the update i get Digital Well being notification that "Digital well being updating" every other minutes or so and its already turned off access but draining a lot of battery over night
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use custom kernel and block the wakelock & autostart of the application and it's services .....
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What you say is true, but for me it's not an excuse for Xiaomi to deliver crappy software for their Android One phones. Nobody forced them to go to Android one, they chose to go there, they could do the minimum service of delivering a functional and bug-less phone.
Fixing the settings suggestion bug would be simple.
Enabling Camera2 API is a very simple change
etc...
So for bugs, no discussions.
For things like Camera2 API, if there's a reason like they did not want to pay some license or anything like that, then they could state it clearly so at least people know they should not have any hope.
In any case, I am never ever buying a Xiaomi phone when I change. A1 plus A2 taught me enough about that company...
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you can boot twrp custom recovery and flash zip to enable api2 or root temporarily and enable api2 then unroot again
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anyway in either case xiaomi is dropping android 1 project ...due to it being a flop ..
.but tbh I've never owned a xiaomi phone that i haven't liked or wasn't fun to root ..the worst was a2 on android which i quickly converted to x6
lg, Samsung, HUAWEI ( JEEZ WHAT A PAIN IN THE BUTT LET DOWN) ....so many hardware fails and over priced heavily bloated crapware
anyway ditch android 1 but unless you can afford one+ or iphone , you will regret not getting a xiaomi ..best in it's price class on every phone ...
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use custom kernel and block the wakelock & autostart of the application and it's services .....
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you can boot twrp custom recovery and flash zip to enable api2 or root temporarily and enable api2 then unroot again
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anyway in either case xiaomi is dropping android 1 project ...due to it being a flop ..
.but tbh I've never owned a xiaomi phone that i haven't liked or wasn't fun to root ..the worst was a2 on android which i quickly converted to x6
lg, Samsung, HUAWEI ( JEEZ WHAT A PAIN IN THE BUTT LET DOWN) ....so many hardware fails and over priced heavily bloated crapware
anyway ditch android 1 but unless you can afford one+ or iphone , you will regret not getting a xiaomi ..best in it's price class on every phone ...
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Rooting was fun back when I had my Galaxy S (the first one, you know...). Now when I buy a phone, I expect it to work out of the box, I don't want to invest the time in rooting, plus what it means in losing warranty, risk of bricking, banking or professional apps not working etc...
As well, I do want Android One because I can't stand overlays like MIUI, and I don't want to spend the money on a Pixel. There are still other brands that do Android One phone like Nokia, Moto are not Android One but close enough, etc...
The new pixel 4a is even close to be affordable, or the OnePlus Nord.
So to each one his own way to happiness, mine will be far away from Xiaomi. I do not concur with great hardware (had 4G and WiFi clunky with both A1 and A2, the backlight on A1's keys failed before 1 year, A2 stutters badly....).
Even for the price I paid, A2 is a huge disappointment, even more when I know that Xiaomi could have done better by optimizing software just a little bit. Again, nobody forced them to go Android One way, so no excuses for doing it bad... To people like me, they just committed commercial suicide.
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Rooting was fun back when I had my Galaxy S (the first one, you know...). Now when I buy a phone, I expect it to work out of the box, I don't want to invest the time in rooting, plus what it means in losing warranty, risk of bricking, banking or professional apps not working etc...
As well, I do want Android One because I can't stand overlays like MIUI, and I don't want to spend the money on a Pixel. There are still other brands that do Android One phone like Nokia, Moto are not Android One but close enough, etc...
The new pixel 4a is even close to be affordable, or the OnePlus Nord.
So to each one his own way to happiness, mine will be far away from Xiaomi. I do not concur with great hardware (had 4G and WiFi clunky with both A1 and A2, the backlight on A1's keys failed before 1 year, A2 stutters badly....).
Even for the price I paid, A2 is a huge disappointment, even more when I know that Xiaomi could have done better by optimizing software just a little bit. Again, nobody forced them to go Android One way, so no excuses for doing it bad... To people like me, they just committed commercial suicide.
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well like i said if you can afford 1+ i wouldn't be wasting time with Xiaomi..as for hardware ..i said in relation to price .. Motorola is a good option but honestly you simply get more specs with Xiaomi for the same price nowadays ..
the reason xiaomi is dropping android 1 is in my opinion the same reason it failed on other devices and why you will get disappointed all over again just with another brand is
while it is supposed to be light, user friendly and optimized for ease of use ..it has an opposite effect
it is buggy and lacking in key functions while resulting in an unpleasant experience which is super easily bricked ..you seriously think the bugs are only Xiaomi's implementation ? well guess again ...
besides which , you could flash an aosp custom rom and custom kernel without having to root or decrypt or whatever..still get security patches and have a "moto" "android 1" experience (known as aosp for years before android 1 was conceived )..
anyway like you say , to each his own . in my case i bought my A2 refurbished from Amazon for 50€ and i can't complain about my experience , not for a second ....my previous devive was a moto e4 bought new from Amazon for +-100€ ...
in both cases i enjoy playing around with my phonee to keep myself entertainment .. that's why i joined xda anyway ... customisation and fun ..im not sure why one would buy a light 4x4 off road vechile ..and join a club if what you really want is a 2xwheel washed and parked in the garage while you sip smoothies ..what am i missing here ?
if you really really just want a phone that works no questions asked i really recommend an iPhone if you don't want to mod or customize or performance boost etc ..and im not sarcastic, if i had the spare cash i would own an iphone too.. because i enjoy the differences between different phones and hardware , since i like tech in general.
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a2 official rom state
Enabling Camera2 API is a very simple change - it is not so simple.
Selfie camera (just 5 mpx) and secondary back camera (a lot of issues) are not camera 2 api compliant.
no idea why, but when i installed during august official rom, i have still no big issues till today (but some features from paranoid android are still missing ).
till today there is no camera app port or camera app which can be compared with simple usage of the stock app (open camera is for more complex control).
xiaomi wll not make any new android one phone, exactly what everybody wanted, yeah ... it is similar to olympus leaving camera market (nobody wanted it, ehm ).
Fixing the settings suggestion bug would be simple. - is it really a big issue?
ok, simple question - is there any not fixed bug which is not more app related (google duo etc.)? everynody is writing just how bad it was ... yes - 5 months ago.
Is it Possible to Flash Samsung's One UI on Oneplus 8 series without Unlocking Bootloader, like Color OS was Available few weeks back Officially.
Are you suggesting flashing Samsung Firmware onto a OnePlus device? Or are you asking if there's a skinned OnePlus ROM One UI? Color OS was available but it's built for OnePlus devices.
I re-posted as a reply.....hence the dbl post.
Yugendhra said:
Is it Possible to Flash Samsung's One UI on Oneplus 8 series without Unlocking Bootloader, like Color OS was Available few weeks back Officially.
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Are you suggesting flashing Samsung Firmware onto a OnePlus device? Or are you asking if there's a skinned OnePlus ROM One UI? Color OS was available but it's built for OnePlus devices.
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Are you suggesting flashing Samsung Firmware onto a OnePlus device? Or are you asking if there's a skinned OnePlus ROM One UI? Color OS was available but it's built for OnePlus devices.
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Ore maybe a oneui port
Custom ROM, I dont think One UI is available skinned for oneplus devices Is it??
Yugendhra said:
Custom ROM, I dont think One UI is available skinned for oneplus devices Is it??
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Yes, you can PORT it but somethings may not work
What about coloros is can be port for global and eu devices?
Ho
jamescable said:
Yes, you can PORT it but somethings may not worHow to Port it??
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How to port it??
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How to port it??
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Look it up here on xda
Is this a serious thread?
You could maybe get the launcher and some bits, but bare in mind that not even the OnePlus camera is ported to custom ROMs that aren't OOS.
Frankly I think the chance of getting a Samsung OS port OnePlus is between 0-1%
I really don't understand why anyone would want it.
If you want to do it then good luck..
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Is this a serious thread?
You could maybe get the launcher and some bits, but bare in mind that not even the OnePlus camera is ported to custom ROMs that aren't OOS.
Frankly I think the chance of getting a Samsung OS port OnePlus is between 0-1%
I really don't understand why anyone would want it.
If you want to do it then good luck..
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I ran Samsung, LG and Motorola ports on Nexus devices
jamescable said:
I ran Samsung, LG and Motorola ports on Nexus devices
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Great, good for you.
This will not happen on this device..
If it does it'll be broken, Samsung does not make it easy to port their stuff.
LG? I don't think they care anymore.
Motorola? Pretty sure they're owned by Google or were, so wouldn't imagine the leap being massive.
But the amount of services and crap you'd need to port one UI correctly, sorry but it's not happening.
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Great, good for you.
This will not happen on this device..
If it does it'll be broken, Samsung does not make it easy to port their stuff.
LG? I don't think they care anymore.
Motorola? Pretty sure they're owned by Google or were, so wouldn't imagine the leap being massive.
But the amount of services and crap you'd need to port one UI correctly, sorry but it's not happening.
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[ROM][PORT][9.0.0] Samsung OneUI [10.02.19]
Samsung OneUI Port for OnePlus 6! Features: Stock N960USQU1CSAA / Galaxy Note9 Firmware. Debloated VBMeta Disabler + TWRP Backup. OneUI AOD works! All Samsung Apps work! Night Mode works! Themes, Wallpapers, Ringtones work! Full Screen...
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dladz said:
Is this a serious thread?
You could maybe get the launcher and some bits, but bare in mind that not even the OnePlus camera is ported to custom ROMs that aren't OOS.
Frankly I think the chance of getting a Samsung OS port OnePlus is between 0-1%
I really don't understand why anyone would want it.
If you want to do it then good luck..
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one of the developer(protodevnano) from 8 pro xda section doing one ui port for 8 pro now.
volcy123 said:
one of the developer(protodevnano) from 8 pro xda section doing one ui port for 8 pro now.
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Lol brilliant..
Wasn't saying impossible lol. Just very very unlikely.
Let's see how it pans out.
More the merrier in my eyes, just don't see it being good and there will be a tonne of hurdles.
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[ROM][PORT][9.0.0] Samsung OneUI [10.02.19]
Samsung OneUI Port for OnePlus 6! Features: Stock N960USQU1CSAA / Galaxy Note9 Firmware. Debloated VBMeta Disabler + TWRP Backup. OneUI AOD works! All Samsung Apps work! Night Mode works! Themes, Wallpapers, Ringtones work! Full Screen...
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Like I said
What doesn't work / Bugs:
NFC
Alert Slider(duh?)
Auto Rotation toggle doesn't do anything so keep it disabled.
Brightness goes from 50% at the minimum to 100% very quickly so You can only use 50,75,100% within 1mm of slider length.
Vibrations
FP Scanner
AOD brightness is always 100%
RIL
Samsung Cloud has problems with logging in.
Bixby probably would work but has to be updated. (Use APKMirror and try!)
Probably more stuff. Working on fixing all bugs.
Is it worth it? To me? No.
Why not just get a Samsung? Never quite understood why people buy a phone, then flash a Port on it. I mean if you want MIUI by a Xiaomi, if you want One UI buy a Samsung.
FreshlyBaked 420 said:
Why not just get a Samsung? Never quite understood why people buy a phone, then flash a Port on it. I mean if you want MIUI by a Xiaomi, if you want One UI buy a Samsung.
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I agree mate, unless you're in the UK in which case you'd be getting the exynos chipset which is pretty crap.
Don't get me wrong is someone makes a fully functional or even semi functional ROM from any other device then yes it's great, I just know Samsung as I've had a few and their OS is just not for the faint of heart, even their watches were hard to port android to (older ones specifically)
But yea, if you want OneUi, there's only one real way to get it
What are your Views on this:
This website claims that you can install One UI 3.1 on OP8P.
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Is it Safe ???