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Why is oneplus x overshadowed by oneplus 2 and 3 ?

I mean, it still packs some decent specs under that beautiful design, regardless of performance. I mean, try to buy it from their site, it won't be highlighted or something, but op2 and op3 are. Try to find some oneplus x guides, op2 guide will show up, and this goes forever, you get it. MAY I MENTION IT's august 2016, the phone came in late 2015 and we still didn't get a 6.0 update ? I bet they gave up on oneplus x and we're never gonna get a 6.0 update actually. Some shameful shi.t right here. MORE MONEY, MORE PROBLEMS I SUPPOSE. They are blinded by the tremendous success of op2 and op3 phones so they dropped oneplus x "for good". That's how i'll never stick to oneplus again.

there is no need of this anxiety, CyanogenMod already has been released marshmallow of OPX and there are many developers ROM available you can try them i would like to prefer Sultan's ROM because i am using and it is really very good and battery backup is great SoT is unbelievable 4 to 5 hours. don't worry man there is always a hope..by the way oxygen os is no so good..... sorry if my narration is not make you happy
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zsk.khan said:
there is no need of this anxiety, CyanogenMod already has been released marshmallow of OPX and there are many developers ROM available you can try them i would like to prefer Sultan's ROM because i am using and it is really very good and battery backup is great SoT is unbelievable 4 to 5 hours. don't worry man there is always a hope..by the way oxygen os is no so good..... sorry if my narration is not make you happy
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yes there is need for this anxiety, cyanogenmod has been released but there is no stable version out yet, yes there are many rom's available but everyone of them has one bug or the other, i would prefer stock rom because they have almost minor to no bugs because casual users like me dont go testing every feature of the rom after flashing. why would this matter you ask then lemme give you an example from a casual user's point of view, i'm chilling with my friends & they show me some content (might be any personal song or video) & i ask them to transfer it to me via bluetooth like any casual user & i find out that the bluetooth function is broken & that would be an embarassing situation i wouldn't wanna be in.
Pls dont get me wrong im not slandering the hard work of custom rom developers, im jus stating my point as a casual user whose not interested in SoT but just wants to feel safe knowing all the features of my phone are working well.
Many of you will say stick to oxygen 2.2 if you want to feel safe but i would say my one plus x is not that old and 7.0 is about to release im not asking for the latest but atleast give me 6.0 which even cheap & crappy chinese phones come with now a days.

coldfear00 said:
yes there is need for this anxiety, cyanogenmod has been released but there is no stable version out yet, yes there are many rom's available but everyone of them has one bug or the other, i would prefer stock rom because they have almost minor to no bugs because casual users like me dont go testing every feature of the rom after flashing. why would this matter you ask then lemme give you an example from a casual user's point of view, i'm chilling with my friends & they show me some content (might be any personal song or video) & i ask them to transfer it to me via bluetooth like any casual user & i find out that the bluetooth function is broken & that would be an embarassing situation i wouldn't wanna be in.
Pls dont get me wrong im not slandering the hard work of custom rom developers, im jus stating my point as a casual user whose not interested in SoT but just wants to feel safe knowing all the features of my phone are working well.
Many of you will say stick to oxygen 2.2 if you want to feel safe but i would say my one plus x is not that old and 7.0 is about to release im not asking for the latest but atleast give me 6.0 which even cheap & crappy chinese phones come with now a days.
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give a try to Sultan's ROM you will be not disappointed, because there is no bugs everything is working fine. you can use it like casual user or if you need root access then you have to flash superSU above than 2.6 version. how it will help you else upto you
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coldfear00 said:
yes there is need for this anxiety, cyanogenmod has been released but there is no stable version out yet, yes there are many rom's available but everyone of them has one bug or the other, i would prefer stock rom because they have almost minor to no bugs because casual users like me dont go testing every feature of the rom after flashing. why would this matter you ask then lemme give you an example from a casual user's point of view, i'm chilling with my friends & they show me some content (might be any personal song or video) & i ask them to transfer it to me via bluetooth like any casual user & i find out that the bluetooth function is broken & that would be an embarassing situation i wouldn't wanna be in.
Pls dont get me wrong im not slandering the hard work of custom rom developers, im jus stating my point as a casual user whose not interested in SoT but just wants to feel safe knowing all the features of my phone are working well.
Many of you will say stick to oxygen 2.2 if you want to feel safe but i would say my one plus x is not that old and 7.0 is about to release im not asking for the latest but atleast give me 6.0 which even cheap & crappy chinese phones come with now a days.
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never gonna buy OnePlus sh*t again...

Well im not talking about particular rom developers, they are in no way linked to the company itself. They develop custom roms for plenty of devices. As far as these goes, i tried paranoid, which is incredibly nice looking but it drains my battery pretty fast with wi-fi on all the time, and i can't connect to mobile data on either of sim cards. Sultan's xda is not any different from official cm13 rom, as far as i could tell, and any other cm13 roms for different devices. It's just the same interface im fed up with it. Oxygen os is a big dissapointment, i dont like it at all. ON THE OTHER HAND, H2os is perfect for me, perfect design, incredibly long battery life, but not quite good performances. Anyway, i bought the phone mostly cause of it's very nice looking design so i got to stick with lags in google play store.
Anyway, my point still stands. They been blinded by the success of oneplus 3 so they decided to forget about oneplus x. I bet we won't get android 6.0 at all.

prabhat.singh.836 said:
never gonna buy OnePlus sh*t again...
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Lad spoke for me! :good:

i've been saying the same shiet, just more gently. This right here is just a consequence.

no offense, but i would like to say i love my phone with custom ROM and i would suggest you guys should purchase google nexus phone if you really need latest Android and i am also thinking about but i have two sim that's why i purchased OnePlus x phone because of their commitment that they will provide latest Android but they betrayed us. Unfortunately we can't do anything despite shouting...is there any options? by the way i am happy by rooting my device and i like custom ROM.
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coldfear00 said:
yes there is need for this anxiety, cyanogenmod has been released but there is no stable version out yet, yes there are many rom's available but everyone of them has one bug or the other, i would prefer stock rom because they have almost minor to no bugs because casual users like me dont go testing every feature of the rom after flashing. why would this matter you ask then lemme give you an example from a casual user's point of view, i'm chilling with my friends & they show me some content (might be any personal song or video) & i ask them to transfer it to me via bluetooth like any casual user & i find out that the bluetooth function is broken & that would be an embarassing situation i wouldn't wanna be in.
Pls dont get me wrong im not slandering the hard work of custom rom developers, im jus stating my point as a casual user whose not interested in SoT but just wants to feel safe knowing all the features of my phone are working well.
Many of you will say stick to oxygen 2.2 if you want to feel safe but i would say my one plus x is not that old and 7.0 is about to release im not asking for the latest but atleast give me 6.0 which even cheap & crappy chinese phones come with now a days.
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well, we got lollipop with MM-like features xD

Coldfear I can't agree more with you, that's why I stick to OOS after have tested around 5 custom roms in my phone. Simply for the rock solid signal reception, the Super fast 4G, the unbeatable photo quality (yes I've tried sultans hal, but apart from fps, nothing comes close to stock camera image quality) and the fact that as a casual user all the every day features of the Rom are readily available to me when I need them. On the other hand all devs put their best efforts to provide a features rich roms and should continue doing so, in order satisfy all kind of users. Rom choice It's really a personal matter. Everyone keep up the good work.
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A CM nightly with broken features can happen anytime, but then you flash a release from another date that corrected the casual bug. That's how its supposed to work. If you find a good build you stay with that for a month at least then update. If you are not happy with the new update you go back to the rom you were using. And with twrp everything is easy, and finish in few minutes. And lets not forget that OOS 5.1 has released many updates and users are still complaining about bugs there too. Anyway I think that OPX team has done a good job with OOS, they are still updating it in a time when everyone is focused one OP3.
OP3 is the flagship, it has just been released and has attracted a huge fan base already. Its normal it has overshadowed OPX which now is a mid-range budget phone. I think that after some months, they will put some effort on bringing a full working MM on OPX. And then , start working on OP4

I remember, when OnePlus were asked why they haveused an older chipset in OnePlus X , they said that it'll help the device to have more (unofficial) development support. I think they indirectly implied ,"OnePlus X users, we won't be updating your software since we have provided you with a chip set that is going to have a great amount of (unofficial) developer support. So, don't bother us by asking for updates and let us concentrate on our "Flagship killers" ".
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sniper20 said:
Coldfear I can't agree more with you, that's why I stick to OOS after have tested around 5 custom roms in my phone. Simply for the rock solid signal reception, the Super fast 4G, the unbeatable photo quality (yes I've tried sultans hal, but apart from fps, nothing comes close to stock camera image quality) and the fact that as a casual user all the every day features of the Rom are readily available to me when I need them. On the other hand all devs put their best efforts to provide a features rich roms and should continue doing so, in order satisfy all kind of users. Rom choice It's really a personal matter. Everyone keep up the good work.
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I have to disagree with you here.
1. Picture quality is better on SulatanXDA roms. It can be subjective, but it seems so. Even my friend semi-pro photographers said so. I don't care about 4K recording/FPS much
2. There are no bugs.
3. I get 50 Mbit/s on LTE outside of the building. It differes depending on time of the day and location obviously.
Anyway I do recommend SultanXDA rom to anyone who is looking to replace buggy (yes it is buggy and never updated!!!) OOS. Love this phone.... The only thing I hate is lack of 5GHz band for wifi (it isn't even the band as the support is there, One+ was lazy enough not to put an antenna in)

Android N & ZTE, etc

Just wondered, if most people want a pure Android experience, why do all the manufacturers insist in putting their spin on it? It must cost them more in development and, ultimately, unhappy customers and fewer sales...why not just save the hassle and release the hardware with a stock software experience?
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1. Eg Samsung have it own "app store" that make money.
2. Some of user want to use re-maked software.
3. Money
4. Money
5. Custom branding needs - not every brands want to looks like a clean Android.
6. Overall money - eg they said "ooooo we bring a loot of work to our customer experience with system"

Imo zte should have just themed the icons, & allowed the user to flash cm like themes but with deeper customization like re scaling and re positioning of elements and grids of the ui. now that would have been awesome. hmm and maybe throw in a smart notice widget with google assistant integration; imagine the lg g4 widget but with the brains of google assistant XD

jetsetwilly said:
Just wondered, if most people want a pure Android experience, why do all the manufacturers insist in putting their spin on it? It must cost them more in development and, ultimately, unhappy customers and fewer sales...why not just save the hassle and release the hardware with a stock software experience?
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Actually, I'm one of those who doesn't want a pure Android experience because it lacks the customizations and options I need. Last year I got a Huawei with EMUI, and then I sold it to get a phone with pure Android and I have to say that I missed EMUI since the first day because it came with a lot of features and things that are actually useful and I can say I was using at least 90% of those things in order to make the usability better: fingerprint gestures, one hand mode, movement gestures, apps, etc.
Before I used to get devices with pure Android and then install a couple of ROM'S/Add-on in order to have a great experience, but many UI have been improved by now and they offer a more mature and stable experience without the need to be rooting or anything. I can talk about Huawei with EMUI or Xiaomi with MIUI, both started like crap, but right now they are more polished and better, and probably that's what ZTE wants to achieve in the future, because MiFavor feels like a lot like a version of EMUI from a couple of years ago.
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Would you android experience reduce the blostware. The axon 7 system apps on my phone is 19gb. Where is that made up from and what can you delete?

front firing speakers said:
Would you android experience reduce the blostware. The axon 7 system apps on my phone is 19gb. Where is that made up from and what can you delete?
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Something is wrong with your devices... I don't have 19gb taken from clean system. More like 8-9 Go, still a lot but nothing too extreme...

front firing speakers said:
Would you android experience reduce the blostware. The axon 7 system apps on my phone is 19gb. Where is that made up from and what can you delete?
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djona12 said:
Something is wrong with your devices... I don't have 19gb taken from clean system. More like 8-9 Go, still a lot but nothing too extreme...
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Same here, no more than 10GB for system. That's why I always do a full reset and wipe when I get a new device, and I even delete all the internal memory. Some manufacturers like to put garbage on the internal memory.

Why does mine show 17.79gb?
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It's been like that since new, nothing to do with factory resets. I've done a few of those already. Must be Chinese bloatware. Just not sure though what I can remove

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Why does mine show 17.79gb?
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It's been like that since new, nothing to do with factory resets. I've done a few of those already. Must be Chinese bloatware. Just not sure though what I can remove
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Is it a China model?
Do a factory reset and do not use Google to restore, use the 'WeShare' app to backup all data to your SD card before you factory reset. When done resetting, just open 'WeShare' and choose restore data from SD
Only do this if your total internal storage shows 16GB or somewhere around there

Yes it is, what does this procedure actually do? Thank you

People don't want stock android. Xda people, yes. Normal people, no.
If you remember some manufacturers had "Google play editions" of their regular phones. Which were their phone (galaxy s X) or so, but stock Android. They didn't sell. People =/= xda people in an way.

aPexalpha said:
People don't want stock android. Xda people, yes. Normal people, no.
If you remember some manufacturers had "Google play editions" of their regular phones. Which were their phone (galaxy s X) or so, but stock Android. They didn't sell. People =/= xda people in an way.
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I still have a vzw galaxy s4, mdk bootloader (semi unlocked) running 5.1 GPE. I think there's a aicp 7.x rom available, but nothing official as this device has been EOL for a while. It's a spare/backup phone which is used rarely.

aPexalpha said:
People don't want stock android. Xda people, yes. Normal people, no.
If you remember some manufacturers had "Google play editions" of their regular phones. Which were their phone (galaxy s X) or so, but stock Android. They didn't sell. People =/= xda people in an way.
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+1
Give this man a cookie!
The truth is that normal people like those extra functionalities that a custom UI gives, and I had every Nexus until the Nexus 6 and I used to root and install a lot of stuff, but from 2-3 years to now, stock roms on the phones are pretty decent by now.

aPexalpha said:
People don't want stock android. Xda people, yes. Normal people, no.
If you remember some manufacturers had "Google play editions" of their regular phones. Which were their phone (galaxy s X) or so, but stock Android. They didn't sell. People =/= xda people in an way.
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People didn't buy them because they were full price. They could get big discounts on the carrier version.
Galaxo60 said:
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Give this man a cookie!
The truth is that normal people like those extra functionalities that a custom UI gives, and I had every Nexus until the Nexus 6 and I used to root and install a lot of stuff, but from 2-3 years to now, stock roms on the phones are pretty decent by now.
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Galaxo60 said:
Actually, I'm one of those who doesn't want a pure Android experience because it lacks the customizations and options I need. Last year I got a Huawei with EMUI, and then I sold it to get a phone with pure Android and I have to say that I missed EMUI since the first day because it came with a lot of features and things that are actually useful and I can say I was using at least 90% of those things in order to make the usability better: fingerprint gestures, one hand mode, movement gestures, apps, etc.
Before I used to get devices with pure Android and then install a couple of ROM'S/Add-on in order to have a great experience, but many UI have been improved by now and they offer a more mature and stable experience without the need to be rooting or anything. I can talk about Huawei with EMUI or Xiaomi with MIUI, both started like crap, but right now they are more polished and better, and probably that's what ZTE wants to achieve in the future, because MiFavor feels like a lot like a version of EMUI from a couple of years ago.
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I take it that by this you mean that you'd like the customization w/o having to root it? As IIRC there's a VERY GOOD and VERY COMPREHENSIVE customization tool that works on rooted devices. I've forgotten the name of it now as by the time that I found it, I was pretty happy with stock android v. bloated LG, HTC, etc.
Secondly many of the features that you mention are AFAIK standard Android features. Usually it seems if any extras are any good that they eventually show up in stock or a google app, e.g. swype enabled keyboard which the google keyboard now does as well although to me it seems that ALL version(swype to stock) have SEVERELY dumbed down the default dictionaries as when the feature first appeared it was so accurate but nowadays I get imbecility by default. I haven't gotten round to digging into this particular gripe yet as I've essentially given up on phones/tablets for any meaningful communication beyond as a phone. Anything remotely complex waits until the ULTIMATE input device is available, i.e. a computer and ... wait for it ... a KEYBOARD (although I do like active styluses, not the crappy long finger capacitive crap... even m$ hw rec is halfway decent... and beats swyping, etc. by miles but is still no REAL-honest-to-god-hw kb replacement... emoji's are cute and all but at the end of the day useless tripe best suited to frivolities and then even rare application is best IMNHO...)
Damn! Now I'm probably going to investigate WTF happened to swype keyboards that makes them very nearly useless now as they apparently have dictionaries suited to ADHD kindergartners...

cutterjohn said:
I take it that by this you mean that you'd like the customization w/o having to root it? As IIRC there's a VERY GOOD and VERY COMPREHENSIVE customization tool that works on rooted devices. I've forgotten the name of it now as by the time that I found it, I was pretty happy with stock android v. bloated LG, HTC, etc.
Secondly many of the features that you mention are AFAIK standard Android features. Usually it seems if any extras are any good that they eventually show up in stock or a google app, e.g. swype enabled keyboard which the google keyboard now does as well although to me it seems that ALL version(swype to stock) have SEVERELY dumbed down the default dictionaries as when the feature first appeared it was so accurate but nowadays I get imbecility by default. I haven't gotten round to digging into this particular gripe yet as I've essentially given up on phones/tablets for any meaningful communication beyond as a phone. Anything remotely complex waits until the ULTIMATE input device is available, i.e. a computer and ... wait for it ... a KEYBOARD (although I do like active styluses, not the crappy long finger capacitive crap... even m$ hw rec is halfway decent... and beats swyping, etc. by miles but is still no REAL-honest-to-god-hw kb replacement... emoji's are cute and all but at the end of the day useless tripe best suited to frivolities and then even rare application is best IMNHO...)
Damn! Now I'm probably going to investigate WTF happened to swype keyboards that makes them very nearly useless now as they apparently have dictionaries suited to ADHD kindergartners...
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The tool is called Gravitybox, and I used as well, but more and more ROM's and even Android are taking those features, so there is no need to root or customize anymore except when you really need specific things with a particular objective.

front firing speakers said:
Yes it is, what does this procedure actually do? Thank you
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I heard from my local service centre that the software storage format is 16GB, so if its installed without doing a factory reset to reset the storage to default 64GB, it will stay at 16GB

It's a 128gb a2017 on b013. When it updated from b07 to b013 it performed a factory reset. When I received phone originally from Ali express, it was already showing around 16gb of system stuff. Currently it's 17.5gb. What's going on?

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Yes it is, what does this procedure actually do? Thank you
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Not too sure. Might wanna contact zte.cn
I was told to do a factory reset and to not backup using google when they installed software meant for the A2017 model on my A2017G model.

jetsetwilly said:
Just wondered, if most people want a pure Android experience, why do all the manufacturers insist in putting their spin on it? It must cost them more in development and, ultimately, unhappy customers and fewer sales...why not just save the hassle and release the hardware with a stock software experience?
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Because stock experience is useless in China where Google services are blocked.
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Miui Rom on Mi A1 to have a Mi 5x with Unlocked LTE

Hello,
Many people already asked this question on many other forums, and they have been blamed by everyone because people consider stupid to buy an A1 and ask for a MIUI when you have Mi 5x that's identical and already run MIUI rom.
THOSE PHONES ARE NOT IDENTICAL
In fact, A1 runs LTE (4g) bands that Mi 5X doesn't have. In Italy the majority of the LTE is on Band 20 for example, and this is the reason why A1 is having lot of success like the other phones with a GLOBAL version (Redmi 4x/Redmi Note 4 Global etc).
What we're asking for is not a rom: the rom already exists.
What we're asking for is not a porting: the phone's HW is THE SAME so there's no need to work or fix anything.
We just need a way, a tweak, a solution, a trick, a "something" to avoid the A/B partition problem and flash the xiaomi.eu rom for Mi 5x on A1 to have a FULLY UNLOCKED phone that can use ALL THE LTE BANDS and also all the advantages of the MIUI rom.
Can somebody help us, now that you know that's not only matter of "PLS port MIUI on A1 cuz it's beautiful plz plz plz"

As italian, i'm totally afree with you...i just want the MIUI features and the 20 LTE band.

timeless241285 said:
Hello,
Many people already asked this question on many other forums, and they have been blamed by everyone because people consider stupid to buy an A1 and ask for a MIUI when you have Mi 5x that's identical and already run MIUI rom.
THOSE PHONES ARE NOT IDENTICAL
In fact, A1 runs LTE (4g) bands that Mi 5X doesn't have. In Italy the majority of the LTE is on Band 20 for example, and this is the reason why A1 is having lot of success like the other phones with a GLOBAL version (Redmi 4x/Redmi Note 4 Global etc).
What we're asking for is not a rom: the rom already exists.
What we're asking for is not a porting: the phone's HW is THE SAME so there's no need to work or fix anything.
We just need a way, a tweak, a solution, a trick, a "something" to avoid the A/B partition problem and flash the xiaomi.eu rom for Mi 5x on A1 to have a FULLY UNLOCKED phone that can use ALL THE LTE BANDS and also all the advantages of the MIUI rom.
Can somebody help us, now that you know that's not only matter of "PLS port MIUI on A1 cuz it's beautiful plz plz plz"
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But still, why do you need Miui so badly when you have stock Android ? Because of special features like dt2w and so ? That will come here also when custom kernel arrive.

NITRO_100 said:
But still, why do you need Miui so badly when you have stock Android ? Because of special features like dt2w and so ? That will come here also when custom kernel arrive.
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MIUI has an optimisation than stock Android hasn't. RAM cleaner on the Recent tabs, Security Center, Built-in call recording, sound recorder, dual space (that for dual SIM it's very important) and many others and features..

I guess when kernel source is available developer will be able to port miui regardless of band and any other limitations..

jack_21 said:
MIUI has an optimisation than stock Android hasn't. RAM cleaner on the Recent tabs, Security Center, Built-in call recording, sound recorder, dual space (that for dual SIM it's very important) and many others and features..
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Miui has very aggressive optimization that I hated, because many apps had misbehaved, I always turn that off. Ram cleaner is nonsense but you have it in stock android too. The options in security center, call recording, sound recorder can be achieved by 3rd party apps. Dual space is like 2nd account.
Don't get me wrong, I generally like miui but there isn't any option that I miss, and multitasking is way better in stock android, apps doesn't get killed after 10 minutes.

Stop forcing your opinion on others by asking why do we need MIUI when have stock android which is better. It is just basic preference. I like MIUI over stock android and perhaps over any custom rom. It is personal taste.
Do I know that MIUI is not as optimized as stock android? YES.
Do I still want it? YES.

IamSubhodeep said:
Stop forcing your opinion on others by asking why do we need MIUI when have stock android which is better. It is just basic preference. I like MIUI over stock android and perhaps over any custom rom. It is personal taste.
Do I know that MIUI is not as optimized as stock android? YES.
Do I still want it? YES.
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Stop asking for miui on an Android stock phone. Go for the mi5x instead , i know it lacks the B20 but life is hard.:good:

jlmcr87 said:
Stop asking for miui on an Android stock phone. Go for the mi5x instead , i know it lacks the B20 but life is hard.:good:
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We don't come on the XDA for philosophy classes. :|
I really hope that we'll be able to run MIUI on this device.
I already own a Mi A1.

IamSubhodeep said:
Stop forcing your opinion on others by asking why do we need MIUI when have stock android which is better. It is just basic preference. I like MIUI over stock android and perhaps over any custom rom. It is personal taste.
Do I know that MIUI is not as optimized as stock android? YES.
Do I still want it? YES.
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I guess that was meant for me (next time pls quote me). Well I have my opinion an I feel free to share it, as you share yours which I appreciate.
I still think that there is nothing that miui has that can not be achieved in stock android. It's just the cosmetics that bothers you. You knew that this phone is pure android, you knew that it has 2 partitions and you should have researched if there is miui rom/port available before you purchased it. Or better, you should purchased it when miui rom/port eventually will be available. And there are good phones from Xiaomi (global ones) even cheaper than this with Miui 9.
Btw, I believe someone (maybe you) will port miui after xiaomi release kernel source, but then we would be allready on Oreo.

NITRO_100 said:
I guess that was meant for me (next time pls quote me). Well I have my opinion an I feel free to share it, as you share yours which I appreciate.
I still think that there is nothing that miui has that can not be achieved in stock android. It's just the cosmetics that bothers you. You knew that this phone is pure android, you knew that it has 2 partitions and you should have researched if there is miui rom/port available before you purchased it. Or better, you should purchased it when miui rom/port eventually will be available. And there are good phones from Xiaomi (global ones) even cheaper than this with Miui 9.
Btw, I believe someone (maybe you) will port miui after xiaomi release kernel source, but then we would be allready on Oreo.
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It was not meant for you specifically. I have seen people bashing the MIUI users with the same comment on multiple forums.
And about porting, I know nothing about it. Waiting for you people to do that. I'll be grateful.

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I still think that there is nothing that miui has that can not be achieved in stock android.
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Ok, then show me how can I achieve built in XiaomiAccount, Mi Cloud/Gallery, Mi App store, Xiaomi Notes, etc...
I don't care about the bells and whistles if these services working good!
And that fine grained permission management would be good, not that simple dull one from stock android.

Upo_hu said:
Ok, then show me how can I achieve built in XiaomiAccount, Mi Cloud/Gallery, Mi App store, Xiaomi Notes, etc...
I don't care about the bells and whistles if these services working good!
And that fine grained permission management would be good, not that simple dull one from stock android.
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And how is all that different then Google account, drive, photos, play store, keep which all are working great if not better then miui (especially the web versions) ? As I said, there is nothing in miui that can't be replaced. And what do you mean by dull permission management ?
And there are 2 ways of how you can achieve that: wait till xiaomi release kernel source and try to port miui rom, or get a global version (if you are in Europe) of some other Xiaomi device.

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Hello,
Many people already asked this question on many other forums, and they have been blamed by everyone because people consider stupid to buy an A1 and ask for a MIUI when you have Mi 5x that's identical and already run MIUI rom.
THOSE PHONES ARE NOT IDENTICAL
In fact, A1 runs LTE (4g) bands that Mi 5X doesn't have. In Italy the majority of the LTE is on Band 20 for example, and this is the reason why A1 is having lot of success like the other phones with a GLOBAL version (Redmi 4x/Redmi Note 4 Global etc).
What we're asking for is not a rom: the rom already exists.
What we're asking for is not a porting: the phone's HW is THE SAME so there's no need to work or fix anything.
We just need a way, a tweak, a solution, a trick, a "something" to avoid the A/B partition problem and flash the xiaomi.eu rom for Mi 5x on A1 to have a FULLY UNLOCKED phone that can use ALL THE LTE BANDS and also all the advantages of the MIUI rom.
Can somebody help us, now that you know that's not only matter of "PLS port MIUI on A1 cuz it's beautiful plz plz plz"
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Although I am not sure but I think that using Qualcomm Flash Tools you should be able to install Mi 5X ROM with Mi 5X partition table and get it up and running, but if these devices aren't that similar inside then you can end up with a hard brick. After flashing using QFIL you might have to flash Mi A1 modem for A1 band support...
PS: Don't do this and backup EFS and other critical partitions if you decide to do it anyway

But if we flash (on one of the a/b partition so you can set active the other in case you have make disaster) only the system and boot partition from Mi 5x fastboot official room, it may be enough?
Of course you will have to wipe data...

NITRO_100 said:
And there are 2 ways of how you can achieve that: wait till xiaomi release kernel source and try to port miui rom, or get a global version (if you are in Europe) of some other Xiaomi device.
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+1
The reason why I bought this phone is because I didn't want to throw 800e on Pixel, and I wanted a cheap phone with a pure android.This thing is a real successor of the Nexus line.
There are so many global versions of xiaomi devices outhere, that there is no need for this phone if all you want is a miui.But you can always try to port it. That's the beauty of development.
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Frankly, I don't know what is wrong for asking. Usually so called real technical people will tell people off if you want this why don't you buy that kind of argument. I see that the one that asks this question has nothing wrong. Everyone of us having such experience when we buy something from the market, we realise that there is a gap in functionality or even down the aesthetic feels, gestures or even some of the commands arrangement that looks stupid....etc, therefore, we asked for something we felt that has done very well, and wish that it could be done in this. If we always have to put up with what is in the box, we don't give the chance for the company to improve, and you ultimately don't help to improve the products.
After reading information from different forums, sometimes I felt sorry for those people who scoffed at people. Maybe you are protecting the brands, or protecting somethings that you feel so much attached to and disregard other people.
May I suggest that if you could not offer a better solutions, or if you think that this is not worth to do it. Just keep quiet and let other people try to answer. Or if you would like to encourage it, such as this example, a simple words like "I like the idea too!" will probably help. Words such as "No way there will be MIUI on Stock Android Phone...etc." If you believe so much about no way, would you willing to bet your neck on your chopping board? With enough incentives, someone will come out with a solution.
Sorry if I sound harsh, but this is how innovation and revolution comes about.

There is nothing wrong with asking. But there is everything wrong with asking the same question every day, in every section and always starting a new topic. You got the answer already, "currently not possible, if you want MIUI, but a device with MIUI". One would expect, that guys wanting MIUI will be satisfied, but no. They'll just create a new topic and ask the same question over and over again. If someone ports MIUI to A1, I'm pretty sure that there will be a proper topic and announcment for that.
Btw. words like "I want it too" can maybe help you to find similarly frustrated people, but that's it. Xiaomi won't read it. Google will not read it. Developers don't care, if they'll do it, it won't be because you want it (donation might be motivating though). Just look at Xposed for Nougat or Oreo topics, hundreds of useless posts like "waiting for an update..".

I would understand negative reactions if this thread would request Xiaomi to replace Android Stock with MIUI on all Mi A1 models for good! But it's addressed to developers on this forum and you'll loose nothing if someone will work on it. Why would you comment against it if you don't like or need MIUI on your phone?... This is beyond my understanding, but sadly the internet is full of this kind of thinking.
Dual app is a feature you can not have it in Stock as fully operational as in MIUI. Some apps (like FB Messenger) will not get push notifications on Stock for cloned apps.
You can use Second Space with one account and you don't have a replacement for this feature for now.
Permission Management is far more complex than even any Xposed module.
China build have Automated Task which again, no module could replace it, as for example: you can schedule to disable just vibrations and nothing else on a specific time of the day.
Notifications synced online.
Calculator with any kind of functions.
Call Recording.
One Hand Mode accessed by swiping from Home button to the left or right. You don't have to loose other functions using different shortcuts. (Double tap is just not efficient).
You have Wallpaper Carousel for your Lockscreen.
You can combine multiple themes to create your best appearance. Stock will never be as beautiful as MIUI can be, but that implies you have some taste for design and art.
All of this are BUILT IN and no root needed or any additional work!
I'm sure I have missed some other details, but when you love MIUI, you just need it, without any explanations. And a lot of Xiaomi phones doesn't have band 20 (800 Mhz) within this price range and specs.
Or maybe you just like to have them both available for your phone with Stock as official. Why's that wrong? ...

Absolutely agree! And additionally, all my data syced to mi cloud, just 1 click to restore. And it is unusable on android one. I too would buy a Mi 5x with B20 or A1 with miui!

bit of update concerning kernel development

Hey there,
Most of you have noticed there is no to very low development for our devices.
For what is worth, there is development, and it is awesome.
We have a very nice device and with great kernel I can assure you that you will be amazed by the performances and battery life for this device.
*I'm currently testing a custom kernel (Hex), and even if it's still a bit of a pain to flash it (twrp need to be installed on one partition and kernel on the other "side") so you need a PC to get it flashed.
So. Please be a bit patient and it will be awesomely rewarded
I wrote this post to all fearing no dev. For the mia2, there is, and damn it's DDucking awesome
Have a nice day!
Regards,
H.

Thanks :good::good:

Wow! It's good to know this,

I would like to see the growing number on the development for this device to the point like other popular device such as my old Redmi Note 4 (its running awesome when installed LOS Oreo). The thing is this A/B partition on MiA2 seems to be complicated and have a high risk if you do wrong from my perspective. With that reason I still keep my phone as it is for now, looking forward for more development and tweaks tho

mark.dx said:
I would like to see the growing number on the development for this device to the point like other popular device such as my old Redmi Note 4 (its running awesome when installed LOS Oreo). The thing is this A/B partition on MiA2 seems to be complicated and have a high risk if you do wrong from my perspective. With that reason I still keep my phone as it is for now, looking forward for more development and tweaks tho
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Yes, me too, even just try to unlock and just enable camera2api without root can turn in a briked device. So i will wait for an oficial TWRP that don´t transform my A2 in to a brick. like this user:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77825415&postcount=13

ki69 said:
Yes, me to even just try to unlock and just enable camera2api without root can tur in a briked device. So i will wait for an oficial TWRP that don´t transform my A2 in to a brick. like this user:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77825415&postcount=13
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Mmh, it's definitely way too early to use any tool. God knows what the tool will do (it's just an automated batch based on ADB/fastboot aka. Platform tools) ?
Again, it's currently a pain to flash anything but at least, it's now 100% stable (if manually flashed with correct ADB (last) version.
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Just a question of time that everything goes to the "noob-world" <- no offense we, just another way to say "bulletproof secure"

I got mine converted to Mi 6X (wayne) and I have only A partition slot. A/B it's ****. I also earned some internal storage space (around 4 Gigs) by doing this. I flashed back AEX and all is good! There is also a fixed vendor coming up which will allow to run every GSI image out-of-the-box without any bugs, thanks to Manish!

If you want guys, I can make a step by step guide on how to root and use magisk, substraum and gcam
It is very easy in my opinion, can be done in 5 minutes

I think that could be actually great. It took me some times to harvest all Infos and find a way which was making some sense. No rant on devs. But a clear way step by step would be great. At least to answer the 2000 message I get on "how-to do it" ????

For substratum not needs always root....Andromeda + substratum works very fine on stock devices(Andromeda cost is very small)
A2 certainly needs an official twrp,first than all....perhaps it will come soon, the device is still new...

mark.dx said:
The thing is this A/B partition on MiA2 seems to be complicated and have a high risk if you do wrong from my perspective.
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It was an issue in the past, but now that there's wide support for the Google Pixel (which even has official LOS) things just got a lot easier. A/B is a non-issue for the end-user, the developer does need to check how things are done in the Pixel (which takes valuable time), but shouldn't be a deal breaker as everything is already public.
IMHO the real issue is the fact the Mi A2 wasn't really that popular to begin with (among the kind of enthusiasts that would only ever run a custom ROM, that is). When it launched, those enthusiasts preferred the whyred (which already had great support, namely official LOS). Shortly after, Poco happened.
I honestly think this device will be like most others, custom ROMs will either come straight from GSI (when vendor is fixed) or only after the Android One support ends (aka. when we'll be pressed to do something).
It's not too bad at all, it's just slightly disappointing because (1) Xiaomi timed their product releases poorly, not giving enough information to make an informed purchase; and (2) we kinda of expected a little more from Android One than to be grounded to stock or (now) a GSI.
At the end of the day it is up to us (everyone in this community) to do something about it (ie. start working on the device instead of expecting someone else to pick that job). Harsh words, but true nonetheless.

enapah said:
It was an issue in the past, but now that there's wide support for the Google Pixel (which even has official LOS) things just got a lot easier. A/B is a non-issue for the end-user, the developer does need to check how things are done in the Pixel (which takes valuable time), but shouldn't be a deal breaker as everything is already public.
IMHO the real issue is the fact the Mi A2 wasn't really that popular to begin with (among the kind of enthusiasts that would only ever run a custom ROM, that is). When it launched, those enthusiasts preferred the whyred (which already had great support, namely official LOS). Shortly after, Poco happened.
I honestly think this device will be like most others, custom ROMs will either come straight from GSI (when vendor is fixed) or only after the Android One support ends (aka. when we'll be pressed to do something).
It's not too bad at all, it's just slightly disappointing because (1) Xiaomi timed their product releases poorly, not giving enough information to make an informed purchase; and (2) we kinda of expected a little more from Android One than to be grounded to stock or (now) a GSI.
At the end of the day it is up to us (everyone in this community) to do something about it (ie. start working on the device instead of expecting someone else to pick that job). Harsh words, but true nonetheless.
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This should be stickied somewhere, this is exactly what happened and what needs to be done. True words

by any chance will this work with mi 6x?

mugentech said:
by any chance will this work with mi 6x?
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Some have tried, it doesn't unfortunately ?

Aww. Was hoping it would work on 6x since it's faster atm

Ähm.. mia2 + Hex Kernel is soooo faster than mi6xx ? and 6-7h of SOT on wifi (5-6h on 4g)
Again, a bit of patience, it will be all good. It is already for motivated flashers

dodjob said:
Ähm.. mia2 + Hex Kernel is soooo faster than mi6xx and 6-7h of SOT on wifi (5-6h on 4g)
Again, a bit of patience, it will be all good. It is already for motivated flashers
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with this statement, will not buy 6x and wait for A2
saves me trouble of flashing PE on 6x
:fingers-crossed:

dodjob said:
Ähm.. mia2 + Hex Kernel is soooo faster than mi6xx and 6-7h of SOT on wifi (5-6h on 4g)
Again, a bit of patience, it will be all good. It is already for motivated flashers
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Is the Hex kernel being done in collaboration with the X-team?
Their extreme kernel for the Mi A1 is crazy good.
Can you point me to the kernel file? I would like to test and report

enapah said:
It was an issue in the past, but now that there's wide support for the Google Pixel (which even has official LOS) things just got a lot easier. A/B is a non-issue for the end-user, the developer does need to check how things are done in the Pixel (which takes valuable time), but shouldn't be a deal breaker as everything is already public.
IMHO the real issue is the fact the Mi A2 wasn't really that popular to begin with (among the kind of enthusiasts that would only ever run a custom ROM, that is). When it launched, those enthusiasts preferred the whyred (which already had great support, namely official LOS). Shortly after, Poco happened.
I honestly think this device will be like most others, custom ROMs will either come straight from GSI (when vendor is fixed) or only after the Android One support ends (aka. when we'll be pressed to do something).
It's not too bad at all, it's just slightly disappointing because (1) Xiaomi timed their product releases poorly, not giving enough information to make an informed purchase; and (2) we kinda of expected a little more from Android One than to be grounded to stock or (now) a GSI.
At the end of the day it is up to us (everyone in this community) to do something about it (ie. start working on the device instead of expecting someone else to pick that job). Harsh words, but true nonetheless.
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I agree with what you said. Its just unfortunate that this device got a lot of bugs despite its being an Android One phone. I'm sitting here just waiting for October update or Android Pie update so I can use my device without worries.

why less custom roms

hii learned people
why now a days less ans less custom roms?. say it for samsung etc. look at our one plus no stable custom roms. i have a fear that after some years our xad must be irrelevant which i really dont want. the best place. i am asking from my heart. other than my profession i used to spend more time on xda before. now a days its becoming less. whch makes me very sad.
thank you
regards
dr.mouli

ayurmouli said:
hii learned people
why now a days less ans less custom roms?. say it for samsung etc. look at our one plus no stable custom roms. i have a fear that after some years our xad must be irrelevant which i really dont want. the best place. i am asking from my heart. other than my profession i used to spend more time on xda before. now a days its becoming less. whch makes me very sad.
thank you
regards
dr.mouli
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We have Resurrection Remix that is stable

There's a few stable OP 8 series Roms. I don't quite understand what you are going on about.

sir
FreshlyBaked 420 said:
There's a few stable OP 8 series Roms. I don't quite understand what you are going on about.
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the amount of custom roms are getting lesser and lesser every day. we dont even have stable twrp of our one plus. rooting is getting difficult day by day. are we heading for ios scenario
thank you

ayurmouli said:
the amount of custom roms are getting lesser and lesser every day. we dont even have stable twrp of our one plus. rooting is getting difficult day by day. are we heading for ios scenario
thank you
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Yes custom Roms aren't what they used to be. There's still options though. We do have stable TWRP on A10, A11 is going to take time. Not everything happens overnight. Rooting isn't hard either really.

The overall OS have improved a lot...

ayurmouli said:
hii learned people
why now a days less ans less custom roms?. say it for samsung etc. look at our one plus no stable custom roms. i have a fear that after some years our xad must be irrelevant which i really dont want. the best place. i am asking from my heart. other than my profession i used to spend more time on xda before. now a days its becoming less. whch makes me very sad.
thank you
regards
dr.mouli
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You can thank the dynamic super partition as the culprit behind this.
This is the real underlying cause of very few custom roms. It's also the cost of the device. many people can't afford a thousand bucks.

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Burt Squirtz said:
You can thank the dynamic super partition as the culprit behind this.
This is the real underlying cause of very few customer roms. It's also the cost of the device. many people can't afford a thousand bucks.
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exactly the base of android os is open source but slowly we are reaching for the closed eco system. unfortunately

ayurmouli said:
exactly the base of android os is open source but slowly we are reaching for the closed eco system. unfortunately
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That's right. I'm flashing roms since my galaxy S1. Ive never had a phone without custom rom. But nowadays stock roms starting to be better an better. Even MIUI is a great rom if you debloat it a lot! Today I'm only rooted with a custom kernel. I don't want to miss OEM feature and just want to have a stable rom! And with OxygenOS we have it!

There are ROMs and there is root, we really don't need twrp.
Root is extremely easy, as is unlocking the bootloader.
Personally I'm not a fan of the dual slot system, I think it just confuses the crap out of people, but what can you do.
I'm coming from a Huawei p20 pro. If you think it's bad here, just check out the "development" over there, and they were thriving not so long ago, now it's just as dead as death over there.
(They actually made a development section for the p40 Pro lol why? )
We'll have development for some time yet and will more than likely be root and development for many years to come.
Plus the developers we have here, a lot of them are self taught so why wait for someone else to do it for you?
Make yourself a ROM..
I've done it before (many moons ago) its a great feeling making a ROM you made yourself that boots, of course if it's a non OOS ROM you'll need twrp but that'll come in due course.
I agree in part that development has declined but we should be grateful for what we do have, which is more than a lot of other devices..
I think partly with 1+ it's because the OS is already pretty damn good, plus OnePlus haven't exactly made it impossible for us to mod things..

I also look at another flagship phone that released this year, almost low to none custom ROMs.

Yes thx, I've been on pixels for the last few years & always on a custom rom. I got kona soon as I could and have been loving it. While I have used magisk modules and custom kernel, this is the first time in a really long time that I've stayed on the stock os. The os has came a long way and am thankful to have kona and wouldn't change it for nothing. I've really enjoyed this device so far. Anyway thanks for sharing and just thought I'd share my thoughts.

ps000000 said:
I also look at another flagship phone that released this year, almost low to none custom ROMs.
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Aye I've done the same, even the pixel seems lacking.
Are we looking at it wrong though? I mean back on the HTC devices I've owned sure I did a tonne of flashing but I usually settled on 1 or 2 ROMs and we do have more than that here, so do we have what we need rather than what we want?
Lol I'm sure we'd all prefer the latter, I would too, but it's something to think about, I mean Paranoid Android is here, sure it's had less updates than an rtx 3090 but it's here

To add to what others are saying... Cooking a ROM is a very time consuming project. Not a lot of people want to spend the time on it anymore. When I first got a smart phone, it was an HTC touch diamond. Windows phone OS. Back then, tons of people were learning to create custom ROMs and mods for them. That has slowly dwindled over time. On Android, ROMs were mostly created to get AOSP ported to most devices. Nowadays, all phones have custom hardware that needs a factory ROM to be useful. AOSP is not very desirable as it is the most basic form of Android with only basic functionality for mostly Pixel phones. Most people are now only concerned with using a debloated stock ROM and rooting for modules etc. This is the norm. I don't think it will change. It is what things have evolved into over time.

Also we can install treble ROMs can't we?
I've talked about this before.
There should be dedicated sections for functional treble ROMs where common issues can be laid bare so they can at least be worked on with specific device owners.
Asking a question about your own device in a treble thread seldom gets an answer.
AFAIK we'd need twrp unless Fastboot can be used? Not sure, have only managed to get one treble ROM to boot back on the p20 pro when I had it unlocked.
Most of it worked if memory serves..I'll give them a whirl next time I Bork my system or i get bored and will make a thread detailing which ones work.

i will never go for huawei
dladz said:
There are ROMs and there is root, we really don't need twrp.
Root is extremely easy, as is unlocking the bootloader.
Personally I'm not a fan of the dual slot system, I think it just confuses the crap out of people, but what can you do.
I'm coming from a Huawei p20 pro. If you think it's bad here, just check out the "development" over there, and they were thriving not so long ago, now it's just as dead as death over there.
(They actually made a development section for the p40 Pro lol why? )
We'll have development for some time yet and will more than likely be root and development for many years to come.
Plus the developers we have here, a lot of them are self taught so why wait for someone else to do it for you?
Make yourself a ROM..
I've done it before (many moons ago) its a great feeling making a ROM you made yourself that boots, of course if it's a non OOS ROM you'll need twrp but that'll come in due course.
I agree in part that development has declined but we should be grateful for what we do have, which is more than a lot of other devices..
I think partly with 1+ it's because the OS is already pretty damn good, plus OnePlus haven't exactly made it impossible for us to mod things..
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never allow us to open boot loader. u cant even root. i sold p30 pro after using it for 3 months. i always come back to android because we can root. other wise iphone is better in all the departments and it has value also. but if android is same as ios i.e closed eco system then who needs it. we do flashing etc because its fun. as a doctor this things makes me feel; good because i do something (rooting etc) which is beyond my profession. which is fun and entertaining

ayurmouli said:
never allow us to open boot loader. u cant even root. i sold p30 pro after using it for 3 months. i always come back to android because we can root. other wise iphone is better in all the departments and it has value also. but if android is same as ios i.e closed eco system then who needs it. we do flashing etc because its fun. as a doctor this things makes me feel; good because i do something (rooting etc) which is beyond my profession. which is fun and entertaining
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Actually I couldn't disagree more.
Point being the OS even without root is still better, still more open and content is still better.
Think Apple TV Vs Shield TV Pro, I can play Wii, GameCube, Dreamcast, arcade, neogeo, SNES, megadrive, Atari, Amiga, spectrum commodore, Amstrad, pc engine, pc games, Android games, can watch any movie, listen to any music, connect any controller (multiple controllers) wired or wireless, have it as a searchable Nas drive in my network, watch IPTV through it.
Apple TV can be used for apps like Netflix, that is it.
No file manager, no emulators, nothing.
iOS is not better than Android, not even close, maybe the camera and that's due to singular hardware.
Also Huawei/ honor devices DID allow bootloader unlocking, I know this as I unlocked my p20 pro they stopped it in July 2018 and then reopened it briefly in late 2018, nothing since.
Before this time it was always open, they partnered with XDA to promote their devices and then when they gathered ground they pulled the rug out from underneath everyone's feet, Huawei are slime, they deserve to be hit financially.
Anyone who bought a p30 or p40 is either not bothered about rooting or doesn't want the latest and greatest hardware (Mali GPU is horrific, Kirin is a joke)
If anyone does buy Huawei, they're contributing to the problem as they're still giving money to a company who went against everything that Android stands for.
There is literally no point of there being a P40 forum or P30. It's not even Android in my eyes.
The only way that will reverse is if people stop buying from Huawei/honor, if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.
Going back to Apple, the only device I like from them is their MacBook Pro simply for it's trackpad as I love the features it offers, but as an OS? No I'm always the phone nor OSX can cut it Vs Windows/Android..
And would you pay £2,500 for the privilege of using their trackpad? No I'd rather buy a top gaming rig.
It'll always be this way, Jesus iOS just got widgets lmfao,, welcome to 2007 Apple, haha.
And you think is better? You must be joking.