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Help me decide. Mi A1 or Note 5 Pro?

I am in dilemma between these two phone, both have same prices.
Stock Android > MIUI (I utterly dislike li)
A1 wins.
SD 636 > SD 625
Pro wins.
Audio jack quality (I care about my music experience):
Mi A1 (can confirm it is really good) > Pro ( not good, as per reviewers)
Camera (Not that concerning to me) but:
Pro > Mi A1
I will take the Pro with onscreen buttons so i can arrange the back button to the left. I can not do that in A1.
And looking back at the Xiaomi's track record, I can't see Pro getting any AOSP ROMs soon.
Bottom line.
If I get A1, i get good music quality, stock android with updates. Compromises include, reverse physical buttons and a older SOC 625 thus lower performance.
If I get Pro, i get good screen, very good performance, good cameras. Compromises include, MIUI.
Help mi guys.

Note 5 pro:
Will probably get ROMs in some months like redmi note 4.
Better camera.
I don't think sound can get any worse than Mi A1 with all the hissing.
Better display.
Better battery.
Better performance.
Does it have gorilla glass? Redmi note 4 didn't and it sucked.
Mi A1:
Slimmer.
Stock Android. I actually like miui tho.
ROMs cooking right now.
Well that concludes what I think, note 5 pro without any doubt for me. A1 is a rushed phone with bad audio and mediocre cameras and a smaller battery. I actually prefer my redmi note 4 with custom miui over A1 except for the camera.
Also I'm a bit biased for miui because I'm learning Mandarin ATM haha. But Roms will be there and be awesome quite quickly anyway so stock Android won't be far away for the note 5. It has none of the dual partition stupidness

JakobSWE said:
Note 5 pro:
Will probably get ROMs in some months like redmi note 4.
Better camera.
I don't think sound can get any worse than Mi A1 with all the hissing.
Better display.
Better battery.
Better performance.
Does it have gorilla glass? Redmi note 4 didn't and it sucked.
Mi A1:
Slimmer.
Stock Android. I actually like miui tho.
ROMs cooking right now.
Well that concludes what I think, note 5 pro without any doubt for me. A1 is a rushed phone with bad audio and mediocre cameras and a smaller battery. I actually prefer my redmi note 4 with custom miui over A1 except for the camera.
Also I'm a bit biased for miui because I'm learning Mandarin ATM haha. But Roms will be there and be awesome quite quickly anyway so stock Android won't be far away for the note 5. It has none of the dual partition stupidness
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I did not experience any hissing in A1, the dac is quite powerful just use a good quality headphone/headset.
Okay i am thinking of compromising with MIUI if only it answers my some questions.
Can I directly reply from notifications?
Can I swipe the notifications from one finger?
Can I snooze the notifications for minutes to hours like in nougat/android?
If MIUI can behave like stock android then I can compromise.
Can the miui apps be disabled? Because my whole ecosystem is on Google apps. Like calendar, contacts dialer, etc.
Whats the status on the ROMs for Pro? I know it's too early to say as the phone been just released?
The dual partition is quite handy though, i saw my friends phone update seamlessly just needed a reboot and that too was quite fast.

The DAC is bad for low ohm in-ears.
I think I could answer from notifications. Swipe notifications from one finger? Hmm I guess.
Well you can disable sync or put DNS mode. Or disable apps with powersaving.
Disable apps, with root that will soon be possible and without I guess some but most not.
ROMs, nothing so far, but note 4 was quite fast. Anyway, if unlocked and flashed with miui.eu it will be quite lean with mostly Google apps. Except for the necessary phone functions
My choice would be note 5 pro and after some months flash miui.eu or a stock build. Regarding dual partitions, Yeah sure they speed things up a bit but we only get at most 1 update per month and updating on miui takes at most 5 minutes so for me I would rather not have them and have more storage + easier rom development.
The only things that annoys me with my A1 is the hissing and camera quality. Otherwise I like it, but I would even take the regular redmi 5 plus over it so..

I really like my Mi A1. Good lil phone, I'd go for it again!

Before you make the jump, i would say just get a hands on experience of RN5pro. Cooping up with a 185gm+ device and that too having pretty wide width doesn't sound a pleasurable experince for prolonged usage.
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JakobSWE said:
The DAC is bad for low ohm in-ears.
I think I could answer from notifications. Swipe notifications from one finger? Hmm I guess.
Well you can disable sync or put DNS mode. Or disable apps with powersaving.
Disable apps, with root that will soon be possible and without I guess some but most not.
ROMs, nothing so far, but note 4 was quite fast. Anyway, if unlocked and flashed with miui.eu it will be quite lean with mostly Google apps. Except for the necessary phone functions
My choice would be note 5 pro and after some months flash miui.eu or a stock build. Regarding dual partitions, Yeah sure they speed things up a bit but we only get at most 1 update per month and updating on miui takes at most 5 minutes so for me I would rather not have them and have more storage + easier rom development.
The only things that annoys me with my A1 is the hissing and camera quality. Otherwise I like it, but I would even take the regular redmi 5 plus over it so..
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"Think you could answer from notification.."
Please tell a concrete answer, like in whatsapp you can reply from notification itself.
"Swipe Notification.."
Sorry, my bad, i meant to ask if i can expand notification with one finger to see the contents not swipe away the notification. Do Notifications get bundled if there are many of the same app?
"Well you can disable sync or put DNS mode. Or disable apps with powersaving."
Isn't that too much work to just snooze the notifications for one particular app?
"Disable apps, with root that will soon be possible and without I guess some but most not. "
Can't i disable miui's calender app to use google calender without root?.

gillboyzz said:
Before you make the jump, i would say just get a hands on experience of RN5pro. Cooping up with a 185gm+ device and that too having pretty wide width doesn't sound a pleasurable experince for prolonged usage.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A5010 using Tapatalk
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Yes i did notice the width, i need two hands to operate it weight is okay and manageable. Well from the reviews and comparison pro is a bit narrower and a bit taller, so i would need two hands to use it anyways, gone are the days of the likes of Nexus 5, i miss it.
GSMArena says it does not have compass sensor. Is it true?

"Think you could answer from notification.."
Please tell a concrete answer, like in whatsapp you can reply from notification itself.
Cant say if WhatsApp works but email and sms and telegram for example does.
"Swipe Notification.."
Sorry, my bad, i meant to ask if i can expand notification with one finger to see the contents not swipe away the notification. Do Notifications get bundled if there are many of the same app?
They bundle.
"Well you can disable sync or put DNS mode. Or disable apps with powersaving."
Isn't that too much work to just snooze the notifications for one particular app?
I dont remember and I wouldn't do it myself. But its possible in various ways and also you can filter content to the lockscreen i think.
"Disable apps, with root that will soon be possible and without I guess some but most not. "
Can't i disable miui's calender app to use google calender without root?
Most certainly you can just use a launcher like Evie and hide the app. Otherwise I cant answer if you can disable it.

JakobSWE said:
"Think you could answer from notification.."
Please tell a concrete answer, like in whatsapp you can reply from notification itself.
Cant say if WhatsApp works but email and sms and telegram for example does.
"Swipe Notification.."
Sorry, my bad, i meant to ask if i can expand notification with one finger to see the contents not swipe away the notification. Do Notifications get bundled if there are many of the same app?
They bundle.
"Well you can disable sync or put DNS mode. Or disable apps with powersaving."
Isn't that too much work to just snooze the notifications for one particular app?
I dont remember and I wouldn't do it myself. But its possible in various ways and also you can filter content to the lockscreen i think.
"Disable apps, with root that will soon be possible and without I guess some but most not. "
Can't i disable miui's calender app to use google calender without root?
Most certainly you can just use a launcher like Evie and hide the app. Otherwise I cant answer if you can disable it.
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Thank you

Bye G4 Plus, and a little question.

Hi guys, ive had this phone for almost two years and i just bought a Redmi note 5, so ill give this phone to my aunt, she just uses a few apps like whatsapp, camera & gmail, then i want to know which is the most optimal ROM, the one with less errors and the better at battery optimization, idc the android version. Thank you guys and sorry if made a mistake on my writing, Englis isnt my main language.

Plestar said:
Hi guys, ive had this phone for almost two years and i just bought a Redmi note 5, so ill give this phone to my aunt, she just uses a few apps like whatsapp, camera & gmail, then i want to know which is the most optimal ROM, the one with less errors and the better at battery optimization, idc the android version. Thank you guys and sorry if made a mistake on my writing, Englis isnt my main language.
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RR Nougat with AKT was awesome for me. 6hrs SOT. Mind blowing!!

needs optimization

Anyone notices animation lag while switching over multiple tabs of Google chrome in redmi note 7

jaga7j7 said:
Anyone notices animation lag while switching over multiple tabs of Google chrome in redmi note 7
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The phone lags a lot (ch rom at least). Switching, opening tabs, etc). Overall animations stutter a lot. I hope some developers find it in their hearts to help our poor souls and release a rom with all the xiaomi junk removed.

Are you using global ROM or EU?

nimbold said:
Are you using global ROM or EU?
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I've the 3/32GB global/EU version. It's the worst new phone I've bought ever when it comes to performance. It's just a week old and I've installed the apps that I had on the Note 5 before. Everything is more laggy than with my old 5. I'm really frustrated, because it seems to work fine for others.

pirx666 said:
I've the 3/32GB global/EU version. It's the worst new phone I've bought ever when it comes to performance. It's just a week old and I've installed the apps that I had on the Note 5 before. Everything is more laggy than with my old 5. I'm really frustrated, because it seems to work fine for others.
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Damn, maybe there's something wrong with the software then. Maybe unlock bootloader and flash fastboot ROM of your choice?

pirx666 said:
I've the 3/32GB global/EU version. It's the worst new phone I've bought ever when it comes to performance. It's just a week old and I've installed the apps that I had on the Note 5 before. Everything is more laggy than with my old 5. I'm really frustrated, because it seems to work fine for others.
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Xioami.eu miui rom? Not the model version itself. If u are not familiar with it and I feel like many aren't, Eu rom is like a debloated stock rom and less buggy across all xiaomi phones compared to the stock global/China rom it ships with. U should also use 3rd party apps like fluid navigation gesture on the playstore for no stutter instead of miui's full screen gesture from settings. A lot of xiaomi phones can be a way better experience this way even on miui until custom roms are out. Global version for more bands+EU rom instead of global/China+apps like fluid navigation, Google cam, dolby/viper etc. Let me know if it helps
https://xiaomi.eu/community/forums/miui-rom-releases.103/
Hardware and cost is good but chinese software is probably the worst part about buying a phone that has trouble getting bootloader unlocked. Xiaomi and oneplus seem to have an advantage with that over most of the other companies even though xiaomi makes u wait forever at least it's still possible

anon1135 said:
Xioami.eu miui rom? Not the model version itself. If u are not familiar with it and I feel like many aren't, Eu rom is like a debloated stock rom and less buggy across all xiaomi phones compared to the stock global/China rom it ships with. U should also use 3rd party apps like fluid navigation gesture on the playstore for no stutter instead of miui's full screen gesture from settings. A lot of xiaomi phones can be a way better experience this way even on miui until custom roms are out. Global version for more bands+EU rom instead of global+apps like fluid navigation, Google cam, dolby/viper etc. Let me know if it helps
https://xiaomi.eu/community/forums/miui-rom-releases.103/
Hardware and cost is good but chinese software is probably the worst part about buying a phone that has trouble getting bootloader unlocked. Xiaomi and oneplus seem to have an advantage with that over most of the other companies even though xiaomi makes u wait forever at least it's still possible
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Thanks for all the tips man! Sure it helps! I can't wait till Friday for the 360 hours of waiting to be up. I will right away install EU rom, and as you said, it already is a much more fluid experience, but even after that I will install the fluid navigation gesture as you suggested, and also a different launcher.
One thing though, I am crazy about better sound and with stock MIUI there is no way to 'tweak' Bluetooth sound (EQ, better, bass, control base frequency, etc). I used to have a Note 8 I gave to my uncle which had a crazy amount of tweaks that made me much more satisfied with Bluetooth sound even though we all know it is just 'average sound'.
Do you know which vyper4android mod works best for the redmi note 7? Can I still something similar? have you tried any? Or is it just a universal one?

Always on display on oneplus

CAN I GET "MIUI 12" ----ALWAYS ON DISPLAY---- WATCH FACES IN ONEPLUS DEVICE WITHOUT ROOTING IT THROUGH ANY APK?
BECAUSE ONEPLUS HAS LIMITED OPTIONS FOR ALWAYS ON DISPLAY:crying:

OnePlus 8 Pro does not have an Always On Display and the Ambient Display it does have cannot be customized (other than a few options).

[email protected] said:
CAN I GET "MIUI 12" ----ALWAYS ON DISPLAY---- WATCH FACES IN ONEPLUS DEVICE WITHOUT ROOTING IT THROUGH ANY APK?
BECAUSE ONEPLUS HAS LIMITED OPTIONS FOR ALWAYS ON DISPLAY:crying:
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You can only get an always on display by rooting and installing edxposed atm

[email protected] said:
CAN I GET "MIUI 12" ----ALWAYS ON DISPLAY---- WATCH FACES IN ONEPLUS DEVICE WITHOUT ROOTING IT THROUGH ANY APK?
BECAUSE ONEPLUS HAS LIMITED OPTIONS FOR ALWAYS ON DISPLAY:crying:
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You can check out the tons of AOD apps in the app store that done require root. I've had the most bug free experience with some app called AOD and edge lighting. It seems to work well. Definitely eats up the battery though.

nevermind... without Root...

SM-910F ROM suggestion needed

Hey all,
I've scoured the development thread for various ROMS, looking for either Android 7 or 8.
Google Maps is no longer working on 6.0.1 (Google Maps Go works, but that app doesn't support other apps, like Strava, which require Google Maps)
My Cox Homelife app requires at least 7
I hate the lack of AM/PM for the clock in 9 and 10
Photoshop Touch no longer works on 10
so I'm looking for something in between like 7 or 8
the links to the build of 7 I found was down.
Any ideas on a good ROM to choose and where to finding a working link?
Thanks.

Try downgrading your Home life app to Version 10.0.0.1387 (supports Android 6 [api 23].
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/cox-communications-inc/cox-homelife/cox-homelife-10-0-0-1387-release/
The application’s features may vary depending on the devices installed as part of your Homelife system.
The following supported devices require Android operating system version 5.0 or higher:
• Google Nexus 4, 5, 6P, 7, 9, 10, Prime
• Google Pixel 7.x, Pixel XL, Pixel 2
• HTC One M9+
• LG G4, G5, V10
• Samsung Galaxy Note 4, Note 5, Note 8
• Samsung Galaxy S4, S5, S6, S6 Edge, S7, S7 Edge, S8, S8 Plus
Note: Devices with Google Chrome version v66 require the 9.1.1 Mobile App is required. Mobile App versions prior to version 9.1.1 are incompatible with v 66 of Google Chrome.
To use this app, you must be a current Cox Homelife customer.
Google maps V9.26.1 works as intended on my n910p

spaceturd3000 said:
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Any ideas on a good ROM to choose and where to finding a working link?
Thanks.
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Here is a still working link to RR 5.8.5 = Nougat by mobspyguy for the N910F.
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=673791459329068586
I can recommend it a lot.
I've switched to Q by crDroid for the RR gets no longer updates/patches.