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Already onto my 2nd Hero. Dead pixels et al

Folks,
After complaining to T-mobile UK about the gap at the top of my G2's screen and a couple of dead pixels (see thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542534) they kindly sent me another within 3 days. Unfortunately though this one has no gap (thanks) there are now 3 noticable dead pixels on the screen (most noticable on startup at t-mobile splash screen).
I just want to know if anyone else has had this problem and get a bead on what others are doing about it. Problem is now I have already had a swap out these guys are now saying the policy is to bring the phone into a t-mobile store and have it sent off to be checked which to me is TOTALLY unreasonable as the handset is supposed to be brand new.. ARRRGGGHH!!! Am I just being REALLY over the top? Should I just have to put up with the dead pixels??

i suppose it really does just depend on how bad they are.
I know you would just be on the edge of HTC's policy on pixels...they usually won't touch anything under four unless they're really obvious

Hmm.. Well there is one which is REALLY noticable during the startup and less so during operation. The other two are not quite as obvious during startup and practically invisible during normal ops. Thing I really want to know is whether or not this is common among users of this phone and they are just living with it as it doesn't really affect the use of the phone or is it just me that this is happening with?

People. If any of you are out there especially if you are on a UK t-mobile contract could you please try switching off your phone then switching it on and check you screen while the splash screen loads and see if you notice any dead pixels or see if you can get a black background and check.
I would be reluctant but prepared to put up with this if it were something which was the norm for the majority of new G2 handsets and really dont want to keep swapping my phone only for the dead pixels to be more noticable on the replacement. I guess it's just a peace of mind in numbers thing.

with current LCD technology, the odd dead pixel here and there is fairly normal, but thankfully not as wide spread as it used to be.
I've not seen any on the ones i have seen, and never had a dead pixel on the HTC built devices i have personally owned (going back to 2003/4), although my one and only PSP, which i bought the day it was released, had a crap load of them and was sold very soon afterwards!
I don't think it is particularly widespread to be honest, but there will always be one or two devices in a run that get a dodgy pixel or two.
have you checked the market to see if there is a pixel conditioning app? I'm sure i saw one somewhere. They don't always work, but it cant hurt to try...sometimes they come unstuck after a while.
oh, and i also have a t-mobile one. None on mine.

Dude.. Fortunately the only guy responding to this post is a guy who is being as helpful as you I can;t say I am even aware that pixel conditioning apps exist.. I'll have a look.

be lucky, i'm actually in a good mood at the moment! i guess it's the prescription painkillers i'm on (legitimately i might add...i'm not some sort of addict) overriding my natural hatred and grumpiness of being at work on a weekend....god bless opiates!
i've already pissed someone here off this morning before they kicked in!!

I bought a sim free Hero from Mobilefun. I'm now on my THIRD Hero due to replacing the last 2. The current one and first didn't have any screen issues but the second one did. As soon as i swithced it on, big bright spots. Sent it back straight away of course, as this is unacceptable.
The current one has a minor cosmetic flaw but I'm keeping it this time
Don't worry about being OTT about this. You pay a lot of money, you want something top notch.
Edit: Incidentally, Mobilefun customer service is the best I've experienced. Both handsets were replaced and in the palm of my hand again within 48 hours!

kingtendo said:
People. If any of you are out there especially if you are on a UK t-mobile contract could you please try switching off your phone then switching it on and check you screen while the splash screen loads and see if you notice any dead pixels or see if you can get a black background and check.
I would be reluctant but prepared to put up with this if it were something which was the norm for the majority of new G2 handsets and really dont want to keep swapping my phone only for the dead pixels to be more noticable on the replacement. I guess it's just a peace of mind in numbers thing.
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I have a t-mobile contract hero, I can't see any dead pixels on the splash screen.
There is a tiny gap at the top (ie you can see some copper if you hold it at the right angle to a bright light, but It seems to be the same as all around the rest of the screen and so it doesn't really worry me.

Dude.. As far as the gap in the screen goes there SHOULDN'T be one. I had one on the last handset and changed mine. As I explained this one has some dead pixels but the gap is gone. I repeat it should NOT be there. All manner of dust and debri will eventually get stuck in there and on the underside of the display I am sure. If you can change it I certainly would. I think I will be attempting to change mine again (sigh)

definitely should not be a gap.
my first one does not have one, i'm waiting to see what the state of the second one is when i get home this afternoon. i hope it's ok.

I have a dead pixel as well in the top left corner but it's only noticeable on the startup screen so I don't mind. It's actually quite common with LCDs, my girlfriends iPhone has a couple and I've had phones in the past with some. You can google nearly any phone and find people dead pixels..palm pre, iphone 3gs, blackberry etc. You can return it but then you run the risk of getting a phone with other issues or more dead pixels.

my HTC Hero has 3 dead pixels but they dont bother me at all .

rhedgehog said:
be lucky, i'm actually in a good mood at the moment! i guess it's the prescription painkillers i'm on (legitimately i might add...i'm not some sort of addict) overriding my natural hatred and grumpiness of being at work on a weekend....god bless opiates!
i've already pissed someone here off this morning before they kicked in!!
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Don't worry rhedgehog, I've already forgiven your faux pas this morning.
Sorry, post completely irrelevant to your issue!

kingtendo said:
Hmm.. Well there is one which is REALLY noticable during the startup and less so during operation. The other two are not quite as obvious during startup and practically invisible during normal ops. Thing I really want to know is whether or not this is common among users of this phone and they are just living with it as it doesn't really affect the use of the phone or is it just me that this is happening with?
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You know i thought i had dead pixels at startup under the hero word, but when i loaded a pixel fixer app to check the dead pixes by cycleing different colours on the screen nothing showed im convinced the start up animation is glitched and makes it look like dead pixels!! get the app and check!!

I have a dead pixel too and mailed to the company from where i bought it. I mean, did pay a lot of money for it, 440€, so i expect a device wich has no dead pixels or gaps at all!! .
Let you know how things go.
cheers

I have 3 dead pixels on the startup screen one in the very top right. I don't notice them when the phone is in normal operation. if I get anymore I will be tempted to send. it back.

yrreP said:
Don't worry rhedgehog, I've already forgiven your faux pas this morning.
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shut up Yrrep, or im snapping your SIM again!!! see you at work in the morning
Sorry, now back to the topic....
second g2 arrived and no gap or dead pixels on that one either.

Right, I've decided to ring T mobile about replacing my Hero due to the gap. Will it be an issue that it's more than 7 days since I recieved my phone?

T-Mobile will usually try and be funny with anyone requesting the return of a handset after 7 days but just stick to your guns.. The item is faulty but not instantly noticable. If you catch the rigt person you will be ok.. Just try calling back a few times if necessary. I think half the time I get stuff from them I because i hassle them so much.
By the way.. Can anyone recommend a good pixel testing/fixing app??

Brand new SGS2, screen defect

I just took delivery of my SGS2 yesterday, and I gotta say I absolutely love this phone. Coming from an LG eXpo with WinMo 6.5 and never having used Android, it doesn't even feel like a phone. Plus with all the easy integration with my Google accounts, I've never had a smoother transition to a new device before. All this makes it all the more difficult for me to have to send it back...
I'm not sure if anyone else has encountered this problem, but it looks like my phone came pre-packaged with burn in or something in the form of a dark circle near the upper right side of my screen. I've attached some photos of what it looks like.
I noticed this abnormality in the first 10 minutes or so of using the phone while looking at some photos on my Picasa account. I almost feel like this phone could have been a refurb unit, or the screen was reused or something. In fact, there appears to be more substantial burn in than I can photograph, as there are several other places where I can see strange distortions. Most, if not all, only show up when the brightness is less than 100%. I'd thought maybe it was some widget that caused the burn in, but I haven't been able to figure out which one it could be.
Anywho, I've already arranged an RMA thru Expansys-USA, and they did so without even asking any questions after my email with photos of the problem. So far I've received amazing support from Expansys-USA and definitely recommend them. Also going to see if I can request a replacement sent before I send back this one so I won't be without a phone during the shipping time, something they mention is possible in the RMA email (though they do charge you for it, to be refunded once they get the defective unit back and inspect it).
Would be interesting to see if anyone else has this problem. If there's already another post on this subject, sorry about this new one... didn't see any when I searched tho.

I can see the same thing on mine if I put it on the lowest brightness setting and display a grey image. Nowhere near as pronounced as on yours though, have to really really look for it, so can't be arsed to do anything about it.
Interesting that it's a perfect circle though, could it be just above the CPU or something?

Nope, haven't got that circle on mine at all.

Maybe an assembly worker lost their wedding ring, lol...
You'll be fine, it's an RMA for sure!

Defo a faulty phone
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I believe that mark is from the vacuum suction cup on the assembly line from the automated machine that handles positioning the display component. It technically should disappear over time, but I don't know how long.

I don't think it's the CPU, though to be honest I'm not sure where it is under the screen. There is that odd gold-colored sensor or whatever under that area, I think.
If it's a wedding ring, maybe this phone's worth more than the sticker price! haha
Vacuum cup huh... that's pretty bad if it's damaging the screen while doing that. I don't want to wait and see if it will disappear. If I do wait and it doesn't go away I'll be out $725 on a phone with a screen that'll constantly bug me.
Kinda funny, as I was looking at the photos I attached, I saw two rings... one in the photo, and the real one. Startled me when I first saw it.

I didnt have the same problem as you but i had line banding or something on my one.. i had to replace it 4 times then noticed it overheated+smell coming from it.. so i just returned it and got my money back.
Just be aware that you might get another faulty phone.. If i was you i would wait till it comes out in the US.

That sucks, and it's not good that other people are having some issues as well. Good to hear that Expansys is honoring their agreements though

This is why I don't import anymore

RogerPodacter said:
I believe that mark is from the vacuum suction cup on the assembly line from the automated machine that handles positioning the display component. It technically should disappear over time, but I don't know how long.
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Could well be spot on. I don't know if I'm imagining this, but I'm having more and more trouble seeing this ring on my display heh (had the phone for 9 days now).

RedBlueGreen said:
I didnt have the same problem as you but i had line banding or something on my one.. i had to replace it 4 times then noticed it overheated+smell coming from it.. so i just returned it and got my money back.
Just be aware that you might get another faulty phone.. If i was you i would wait till it comes out in the US.
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Man, that's really unlucky! Knock on wood, I hope I don't get another bad one. However I'm not sure waiting will do me much good. History has shown me that branded devices tend to have a lot of crap on them and lack certain features at times, and I don't have as much time as I used to to keep up with the scene to make the phone operate better all the time. Also, I'm contract-free with unlimited data on AT&T, and I don't like being locked into contracts. This isn't my first non-US phone, though. I'm happy to pay the extra money so long as it means I don't have to sign a contract.
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This is why I don't import anymore
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From the Expansys-USA thread, sounds like they'll ship the phone back to the UK to have it serviced for you if it ever goes bad. This doesn't sound uncommon, either, as I've had a friend here ship his JP Xbox 360 back to Japan to have it serviced (with a another friend's JP address), and another friend in Japan had his laptop sent back here to have it serviced. Also, there's always the chance a non-import one will be bad, too. Luck of the draw, I guess, and perhaps early-adopter woes. lol

Got my replacement on Saturday, been playing with it ever since to see if I could find any further problems. Definitely no circle this time around, and some of the vertical banding I saw on my old phone in the notification screen is gone, but now has some very slight horizontal banding. Not a deal-breaker tho, so this one's staying with me. Also, hard to tell but I think the yellow/dark left screen problem is present, but so slight I can barely detect it if it's there and not a trick of the eye.
Gotta thank Expansys-USA for their great customer service. I'll definitely order from them again.

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I just took delivery of my SGS2 yesterday, and I gotta say I absolutely love this phone. Coming from an LG eXpo with WinMo 6.5 and never having used Android, it doesn't even feel like a phone. Plus with all the easy integration with my Google accounts, I've never had a smoother transition to a new device before. All this makes it all the more difficult for me to have to send it back...
I'm not sure if anyone else has encountered this problem, but it looks like my phone came pre-packaged with burn in or something in the form of a dark circle near the upper right side of my screen. I've attached some photos of what it looks like.
I noticed this abnormality in the first 10 minutes or so of using the phone while looking at some photos on my Picasa account. I almost feel like this phone could have been a refurb unit, or the screen was reused or something. In fact, there appears to be more substantial burn in than I can photograph, as there are several other places where I can see strange distortions. Most, if not all, only show up when the brightness is less than 100%. I'd thought maybe it was some widget that caused the burn in, but I haven't been able to figure out which one it could be.
Anywho, I've already arranged an RMA thru Expansys-USA, and they did so without even asking any questions after my email with photos of the problem. So far I've received amazing support from Expansys-USA and definitely recommend them. Also going to see if I can request a replacement sent before I send back this one so I won't be without a phone during the shipping time, something they mention is possible in the RMA email (though they do charge you for it, to be refunded once they get the defective unit back and inspect it).
Would be interesting to see if anyone else has this problem. If there's already another post on this subject, sorry about this new one... didn't see any when I searched tho.
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I too have this issue at the bottom left of my screen, But i donno how to go about it, should i go ahead and ask for a replacement?? what did u do
Hardly noticable though

Tj,
I too have this issue at the bottom left of my screen, But i donno how to go about it, should i go ahead and ask for a replacement?? what did u do
Hardly noticable though

I would have it exchanged for another if you can. I had mine exchanged, but since I went with the cheap option the whole ordeal took almost a month (slow shipping). My replacement doesn't have a defect, but it's possible I have the yellow tint problem others have been reporting. I don't see it tho, and if it's there it doesn't bother me.
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RMA Due To Tint/Hue Shifting Display

According to what I have read online, this seems to be a normal behavior for AMOLED screens. But coming from a NEXUS 5 with LCD screen, the tint shifting with changing angles is really jarring at times. I've asked for a replacement and it is coming next week. Has anyone gotten a replacement recently and still seeing this issue with their screen? Perhaps the latest batch has solved this issue or at least made it better? My current 6p has a manufacturing date of 10/29. If the replacement refurbished phone is even worse, can I tell Google to take it back instead of sending the phone I have now and start another RMA? Thanks in advance for your input.

Do you have a screen protector installed? It would cause this issue also in Android N you can adjust the screen RGB to satisfy to your likings. I bet the phone you get will be the same you just are not used to amoled and need to adjust it to resemble LCD.

matt1515 said:
Do you have a screen protector installed? It would cause this issue also in Android N you can adjust the screen RGB to satisfy to your likings. I bet the phone you get will be the same you just are not used to amoled and need to adjust it to resemble LCD.
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I do have a plastic screen protector on the screen. I dont know how Android N will solve the tint shifting from blueish to pinkish when moving the phone slightly in any direction. I'm hoping the replacement phone will solve this issue or at least make it less noticeable. My brother's Note 4 isn't as extreme as my 6p when it comes to the tint shifting issue.

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I do have a plastic screen protector on the screen. I dont know how Android N will solve the tint shifting from blueish to pinkish when moving the phone slightly in any direction. I'm hoping the replacement phone will solve this issue or at least make it less noticeable. My brother's Note 4 isn't as extreme as my 6p when it comes to the tint shifting issue.
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I'm willing to bet it's the screen protector causing that issue that's what they do. Try pulling it off and check then. I use a glass screen protector it does this slightly I guess but it's because I put a piece of glass over my screen. It's an amazing phone once you adjust RGB to your liking I'm sure you'll be happy and higher end screen protector's may limit this issue almost obsolete but you'll always get slight reflection issues.

I've raised an RMA request today as the top two thirds of my screen have a pink hue and the bottom third doesn't, and also seems noticeably brighter.
I noticed this issue straight away before I was aware of the numerous threads on the internet discussing it.
I have had many phones with amoled screens before and have never experienced this.
I love the phone though and if my RMA phone is worse, I'll send it back and keep this one. When I asked the Google guy about this, he just said to email him and let him know I was doing it and he would instruct what to do so they knew which phone to expect back.
My current phone is also an October 2015 handset.
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matt1515 said:
I'm willing to bet it's the screen protector causing that issue that's what they do. Try pulling it off and check then. I use a glass screen protector it does this slightly I guess but it's because I put a piece of glass over my screen. It's an amazing phone once you adjust RGB to your liking I'm sure you'll be happy and higher end screen protector's may limit this issue almost obsolete but you'll always get slight reflection issues.
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Are you sure because there are numerous threads online regarding this issue with or without any sort of screen protector. But I will peel off the plastic screen protector and compare it side by side with the replacement once it's arrived.
crash_194 said:
I've raised an RMA request today as the top two thirds of my screen have a pink hue and the bottom third doesn't, and also seems noticeably brighter.
I noticed this issue straight away before I was aware of the numerous threads on the internet discussing it.
I have had many phones with amoled screens before and have never experienced this.
I love the phone though and if my RMA phone is worse, I'll send it back and keep this one. When I asked the Google guy about this, he just said to email him and let him know I was doing it and he would instruct what to do so they knew which phone to expect back.
My current phone is also an October 2015 handset.
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Thanks for the info. Are you getting a brand new replacement phone or a refurbished one? Funny, how the rep told me that I must send back my current phone once I'd received the replacement because that is how the return/refund system is set up which doesn't make sense. I mean why would I want to return a phone that is better than a replacement phone? I wonder if anyone here has gotten a latest batch with a recent built date and still have this issue with his screen?

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Are you sure because there are numerous threads online regarding this issue with or without any sort of screen protector. But I will peel off the plastic screen protector and compare it side by side with the replacement once it's arrived.
Thanks for the info. Are you getting a brand new replacement phone or a refurbished one? Funny, how the rep told me that I must send back my current phone once I'd received the replacement because that is how the return/refund system is set up which doesn't make sense. I mean why would I want to return a phone that is better than a replacement phone? I wonder if anyone here has gotten a latest batch with a recent built date and still have this issue with his screen?
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The guy I spoke to was brilliant. I explained the issue and I could tell it wasn't the first time he'd heard it.
He offered a possible explanation that there could be glue which hadn't cured fully due to it being a new device. I then said I would hope there want still wet glue on a phone that was build in October 2015! Lol
I asked what would happen if I should get a replacement and God forbid it is worse and he said to just drop him an email and he would arrange for me to send the newer device back. Anything seemed possible and nothing was an issue.
Slightly off topic but I'm a firm believer that 100% perfection doesn't exist and to be honest this slight screen issue isn't a deal breaker for me as I do really like the phone. I've had a OnePlus 2 and a Nexus 5x in the last two months and both were nowhere near on par with the 6P.
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crash_194 said:
The guy I spoke to was brilliant. I explained the issue and I could tell it wasn't the first time he'd heard it.
He offered a possible explanation that there could be glue which hadn't cured fully due to it being a new device. I then said I would hope there want still wet glue on a phone that was build in October 2015! Lol
I asked what would happen if I should get a replacement and God forbid it is worse and he said to just drop him an email and he would arrange for me to send the newer device back. Anything seemed possible and nothing was an issue.
Slightly off topic but I'm a firm believer that 100% perfection doesn't exist and to be honest this slight screen issue isn't a deal breaker for me as I do really like the phone. I've had a OnePlus 2 and a Nexus 5x in the last two months and both were nowhere near on par with the 6P.
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I agree with you on the 6p. I really like it as well. Let's hope we both will get a replacement that is even better than the one we have right now! I'll keep you updated once I received the replacement. BTW, are they sending you a brand new one or a refurbished? I've read that refurbished are often better than new ones because they have been tested even more and often look like a new phone.

I've no idea mate to be honest? I may even cancel the RMA or just refuse the new one. I'm either getting used to the hue or it is sorting itself out the more I use the phone (if that is even possible?!)
My speakers on the phone are great and I have no other issues. I'd hate to get another phone that wasn't as good as the one I have!
How would you tell if a unit was a refurbished...?
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I've no idea mate to be honest? I may even cancel the RMA or just refuse the new one. I'm either getting used to the hue or it is sorting itself out the more I use the phone (if that is even possible?!)
My speakers on the phone are great and I have no other issues. I'd hate to get another phone that wasn't as good as the one I have!
How would you tell if a unit was a refurbished...?
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The refurbished units come in plain carbon boxes while the new ones come in retailed packaging. Also, on your RMA order confirmation, it would say if the unit is refurbished or not. I'm curious and hopeful that my replacement will be an even better unit so for that reason I will accept the delivery. You can always send it back if you dont like it at no cost to you.

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I've no idea mate to be honest? I may even cancel the RMA or just refuse the new one. I'm either getting used to the hue or it is sorting itself out the more I use the phone (if that is even possible?!)
My speakers on the phone are great and I have no other issues. I'd hate to get another phone that wasn't as good as the one I have!
How would you tell if a unit was a refurbished...?
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Hi mate...did you get your replacement phone yet? I got mine today. It has a manufacturing date of 10/25 which is a few days before my current phone. The screen is brighter and the hue is more of a blueish white. It is definitely "cooler" than my current device which has a yellowish tint to it. The replacement phone shows white background better and more realistic. Most importantly, the shifting tint is less noticeable when I move the phone. Unfortunately, the speakers seem not as loud as my current phone. But I will keep the replacement and will be sending the current phone back to Google. I hope you got a good replacement device as I did!

I cancelled my RMA in the end and stuck with the original device. The pink hue has seemingly rapidly dissipated the more I've used the phone and had the screen on. I'm not sure if this is possible but I have read about people advising to give the screen a week or two of use to "settle"?
I can't really see what I was originally seeing, and that is when deliberately trying to reproduce the effect using a screen testing app, as opposed to me getting used to the effect in general use and not noticing it.
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screen retention (ghosting)

Anyone having issues with ghosting on there v20?? Any fix if so r is it Rom related. In on vs995 weta Rom 5.0.7 7.0

I'm starting to have issues with image retention on mine.
I'm stock unrooted.
I wonder if this is covered under warranty.. it's not super annoying but still.

I am having a curious issue with the second screen. Under bright light or sunlight, the top right corner of my screen starts to flicker. Well, the brightness increases and decreases. At the beginning quite slowly and then at a higher pace. However, when I'm indoors it doesn't seem to happen, or at least not too foten.
I've tried with and without automatic brightness. I have also tried installing Lux and the issue still persists.
What I realised is that the flickering comes from the backlight of the second screen, and if I disable it, problem solved. I might Have to give it a hard reset and hope is not a hardware problem.
Has anyone experienced the same?

I posted something similar a while ago on this topic. On my left side of the screen I could see what seemed to be screen burn or something. It would be a yellowish tint that would display the keyboard and part of a screen from the app. But it seemed to be the same app everytime. I never found a solution, I had to turn the phone in for a different reason. The ffc just stopped working and would freeze my phone up.

Screen Retention\Ghosting
kbrn said:
I'm starting to have issues with image retention on mine.
I wonder if this is covered under warranty...
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Datblkbro said:
Anyone having issues with ghosting on there v20?? Any fix if so r is it Rom related.
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Same problem.
Stock, no root.
Is covered under warranty?
Did you solve the problem?

yurasik_687 said:
Same problem.
Stock, no root.
Is covered under warranty?
Did you solve the problem?
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I haven't tried to take the phone to see if it can be fixed, but I have done some research and after reading many posts of people having either the G4,V10 and V20 most have been honored under warranty having their screens replaced but the problem comes back, some people claim having their screens more than one time.
I think I can live with it.. I don't wanna risk having the phone scratched or damaged somehow by the person making repairs (I like to keep my phones in mint condition) and I have a Huge OCD problem lol

I think joining XDA is an indicator of having a degree of OCD
Although I'd class mine as low I'd not be happy with the retention exhibited in those pics.
Thankfully my V20 hasn't presented any inherrent problems so far, just the odd temporary ones that happen when modding, but they're soon remedied.
Since @emdroidle gave us root for the H990ds its been great having the chance to open it up and explore more of its potential.

yurasik_687 said:
Same problem.
Stock, no root.
Is covered under warranty?
Did you solve the problem?
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As far as I've read this is just a quirk of these LCD screens that LG uses on their phones. It should go away pretty quick as the only time mine shows up like that is when the screen brightness is all the way or very bright for like 5 or 10 minutes. Mine goes away after 5 or 10 minutes.

Download sfilter from play store activate it at 10 % and image ghosting will go away ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpmiowtPh_A&feature=youtu.be
Here's my retention.

kbrn said:
I haven't tried to take the phone to see if it can be fixed, but I have done some research and after reading many posts of people having either the G4,V10 and V20 most have been honored under warranty having their screens replaced but the problem comes back, some people claim having their screens more than one time.
I think I can live with it.. I don't wanna risk having the phone scratched or damaged somehow by the person making repairs (I like to keep my phones in mint condition) and I have a Huge OCD problem lol
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I was looking into the Warranty as well and just read that it can take up to 4 weeks to inspect and repair a unit, so no mobile for maybe 4 weeks or more and I'm not even sure they will accept the retention as a fault of the mobile itself, but give me the blame for it as there are some minor surface scratches from normal daily use.
So it seems the warranty is pretty much to the bin and reading stories from others about sending there phones with issues does not really make me want to send it back either. Who knows how long, and if declined giving me the blame, what a waste of time it has been. feel like iv Wasted enough time already.
They told me to make a full factory reset, which would of cause not solve the issue at all as I already knew - but I did it and sent the video of the retention afterwards - then I was told to look for scratches and I send them a video and 2 pics of what I could find and now being pointed out that maybe if they find out it is from damage that it just might be send back. Damage... Got to give me a break.
I'm not even sure what they would do with it if they accept the fault - would they begin to toy around with it or would they send me a new phone out of the box.
Is it worth it or not... I'm thinking...
For a +500 Euro phone - retention/ghosting should not happen and yet it does. First phone I ever experiences this issue.
I think I'm on the Whine wagon at the moment, sorry guys - just a little annoyed.

Jesus is God Almighty said:
I was looking into the Warranty as well and just read that it can take up to 4 weeks to inspect and repair a unit, so no mobile for maybe 4 weeks or more and I'm not even sure they will accept the retention as a fault of the mobile itself, but give me the blame for it as there are some minor surface scratches from normal daily use.
So it seems the warranty is pretty much to the bin and reading stories from others about sending there phones with issues does not really make me want to send it back either. Who knows how long, and if declined giving me the blame, what a waste of time it has been. feel like iv Wasted enough time already.
They told me to make a full factory reset, which would of cause not solve the issue at all as I already knew - but I did it and sent the video of the retention afterwards - then I was told to look for scratches and I send them a video and 2 pics of what I could find and now being pointed out that maybe if they find out it is from damage that it just might be send back. Damage... Got to give me a break.
I'm not even sure what they would do with it if they accept the fault - would they begin to toy around with it or would they send me a new phone out of the box.
Is it worth it or not... I'm thinking...
For a +500 Euro phone - retention/ghosting should not happen and yet it does. First phone I ever experiences this issue.
I think I'm on the Whine wagon at the moment, sorry guys - just a little annoyed.
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I did ended up replacing my phone, not under LG warranty though I paid 60 bucks to Sprint to get it swapped. I thought it was better than sending out my phone to LG and wait weeks..
Convenience was the what made me toss the 60 bucks for a new unit.
Though a month later I switched to T-Mobile and upgraded to the V30+
They paid the rest of my installments with Sprint which was half the cost of 2 V20's and also got to keep them.
I use my V20 as a multimedia device now.

kbrn said:
I did ended up replacing my phone, not under LG warranty though I paid 60 bucks to Sprint to get it swapped. I thought it was better than sending out my phone to LG and wait weeks..
Convenience was the what made me toss the 60 bucks for a new unit.
Though a month later I switched to T-Mobile and upgraded to the V30+
They paid the rest of my installments with Sprint which was half the cost of 2 V20's and also got to keep them.
I use my V20 as a multimedia device now.
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Nice - seems like I'm not going to get much from the warranty on the screen issue and still not sure if I should send it back as I'm afraid they do something stupid to it. Well, if my phone melted down at some point I would still buy an V20 in replacement. Battery and SD card is just a win for me even with all the phones faults. Just so sad that LG did not fix a better screen for the V20 in regards of getting Ghosting/Retention.
Anyway - I just tried one of the fixes I found without jail breaking the phone and it does help a little but far from solved the issue at all. I have ghosting/retention all over the screen now and most likely just going to get worse over time as it has from the beginning of it.

I think the image retention is a bug. It randomly happens on mine. At first I thought it was a crappy screen but then it went away. It will even show dark image retention like using xda. And most of my retention around the inside 1/4 of the screen.
Sent from my [device_name] using XDA-Developers Legacy app

Aymenitoo said:
Download sfilter from play store activate it at 10 % and image ghosting will go away
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Sadly did not work here. Still have ghosting. 20% won't do either - il try 30%.

Ok I was getting ghosting which has been getting worse and wore the past month but in the past 2 weeks its been getting really bad on both displays, ontop of that my phone was dying in 20-25% range and going up to 100% charge just to drop like 10 minutes later to like 50% probably just the battery idk
I sent my phone in and here is what they marked on the warranty page
Symptom: Software failure
Repair: Download new software
I honestly hope they don't think its because I wasn't on the latest version of android because I kept putting it off or i'm gonna be pissed, especially since my warranty ends 3/18/2018 and these 2 issues have slowly been getting worse.

Hi!
Here is a working fix if your device is rooted.
Link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/lg-v20-screen-burn-fixed-t3661631

so is this an LG LCD specific issue ? I am just curious when I switch phones should I consider AMOLED / OLED or stick with LCD but maybe a different vendor ?

Jaws4God said:
so is this an LG LCD specific issue ? I am just curious when I switch phones should I consider AMOLED / OLED or stick with LCD but maybe a different vendor ?
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The culprit behind this is low contrast with high blue-output or cooler color temperature. If you are rooted, you can easily tone down the blue channel by a count of 20 (out of 256) and all is good. Also you don't have to use the phone as maximum brightness all the time, the screen itself is way too bright even for the least level.
2ndly, this ghosting is temporary and develops over time of use. It goes away for LCD.
OLED screens suffer from the permanent ghosting aka burn-in, though its coming over time is delayed by quality and improvement of the manufacturing process. Honestly, OLED's have higher saturation, more vibrance, higher contrast which makes them appeal to human eye but it comes at a cost.

dark_prince said:
The culprit behind this is low contrast with high blue-output or cooler color temperature. If you are rooted, you can easily tone down the blue channel by a count of 20 (out of 256) and all is good. Also you don't have to use the phone as maximum brightness all the time, the screen itself is way too bright even for the least level.
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Oh cool. thanks for explaining that! I am not rooted... 1. too nervous of causing issues after root .. 2. mine isn't rootable (on most recent security patch)..
so is there anything I can do to help with the blue output?
dark_prince said:
2ndly, this ghosting is temporary and develops over time of use. It goes away for LCD.
OLED screens suffer from the permanent ghosting aka burn-in, though its coming over time is delayed by quality and improvement of the manufacturing process. Honestly, OLED's have higher saturation, more vibrance, higher contrast which makes them appeal to human eye but it comes at a cost.
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yeah that seems to be what i've read too... I just typically keep my phones for a while and burn in or ghosting worries me...

Cheap j730 display replacement

Hello,
Last month, I've noticed a small dark spot on the right edge of the screen (no outside marks). Next, the dark spot grew and grew, and now I have to use it in negative color mode to be able to read the screen, otherwise it's useless. This might have been caused either by drops, or water (got caught by rain a couple of times), or both.
Question is- are the Chinese displays from ebay and aliexpress any good? They seem to go for 35-55USD, while an OEM display costs 100-120USD, however this is by no means a state of the art display, so I'm hoping that the generic one might work just fine.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!

ghostrider888 said:
Hello,
Last month, I've noticed a small dark spot on the right edge of the screen (no outside marks). Next, the dark spot grew and grew, and now I have to use it in negative color mode to be able to read the screen, otherwise it's useless. This might have been caused either by drops, or water (got caught by rain a couple of times), or both.
Question is- are the Chinese displays from ebay and aliexpress any good? They seem to go for 35-55USD, while an OEM display costs 100-120USD, however this is by no means a state of the art display, so I'm hoping that the generic one might work just fine.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!
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Recently I bought two displays with frame for a Redmi Note 4 from two different stores on aliexpress. Both the cheapest Ich could find.
I tested both and replaced one without any issues. And I doubt these are genuine parts

So... I've finally changed the display.
Removed the old one, installed the new ebay one and... nothing. No display, no touch. The phone otherwise seems functional and it's seen by the PC.
So it's either a DOA display, or something on the motherboard got fried (I hate this non removable battery phones...)

UPDATE:
good news: I managed to make it work- turns out it needed a restart (hold power button + volume down for a while)
bad news: it is poor quality- bright colors, and especially white are cloudy, the touch screen is randomly laggy and unresponsive, and touching the screen also randomly and temporarily makes strange artefacts (as if you pressed on a none-touchscreen laptop display) . Also the glue that was on it's backside was crap, it started peeling the next day (though I cleaned the motherboard side with IP alcohol beforehand). Now I got some B-7000 glue in delivery, hopefully I'll manage to remove and reglue without breaking...
good news: got a partial refund

another update:
Did the "samsung experience 9.5" update and lost the touch function. Good thing a USB mouse still works with this. Some posts on the internet say they made the update reject the Chinese displays, other say that it's a bug that randomly appeared in some countries. I know it could be rooted and reflashed and while I've done this procedure before, right now I'm not willing to risk installing some trojan with the reflash.
So I bought a Chinese Android One phone. To hell with these money hungry bastards- I'm not buying another big brand phone anytime soon. Perhaps the moment people stop buying their crap, they stop doing the planned obsolescence tricks.

ghostrider888 said:
another update:
Did the "samsung experience 9.5" update and lost the touch function. Good thing a USB mouse still works with this. Some posts on the internet say they made the update reject the Chinese displays, other say that it's a bug that randomly appeared in some countries. I know it could be rooted and reflashed and while I've done this procedure before, right now I'm not willing to risk installing some trojan with the reflash.
So I bought a Chinese Android One phone. To hell with these money hungry bastards- I'm not buying another big brand phone anytime soon. Perhaps the moment people stop buying their crap, they stop doing the planned obsolescence tricks.
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I'm in a similar situation and really understand and feel about buying these branded phones.
Total waste