Not Pixel 2 XL Related but ..... - Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion

By no means making any excuses here, but seems like I've heard this before... https://www.macrumors.com/2017/11/0...normal/?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=webfeeds

mademan420 said:
By no means making any excuses here, but seems like I've heard this before... https://www.macrumors.com/2017/11/0...normal/?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=webfeeds
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Lol typical Apple. Taking an Android feature and presenting it as something new and revolutionary

Haha, they don't call it iphonie for nothing!

galaxys said:
Haha, they don't call it iphonie for nothing!
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idkwhothatis123 said:
Lol typical Apple. Taking an Android feature and presenting it as something new and revolutionary
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Just wondering what the news stories would have read about the pixel 2xl had they waited to release. Google took all the brunt of this **** and watch Apple not get any flack.

AndrasLOHF said:
Just wondering what the news stories would have read about the pixel 2xl had they waited to release. Google took all the brunt of this **** and watch Apple not get any flack.
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RT:good:

mademan420 said:
By no means making any excuses here, but seems like I've heard this before... https://www.macrumors.com/2017/11/0...normal/?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=webfeeds
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Can't wait to read the BGR and Verge articles bashing the hell out of the iPhone.
I'm holding my breath. Someone wake me up after I pass out.

tgrgrd00 said:
Can't wait to read the BGR and Verge articles bashing the hell out of the iPhone.
I'm holding my breath. Someone wake me up after I pass out.
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:laugh::laugh::laugh:

mademan420 said:
By no means making any excuses here, but seems like I've heard this before... https://www.macrumors.com/2017/11/03/iphone-x-display-screen-burn-in-normal/?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=webfeeds
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Wait a minute. That doesn't make sense, so what about all the bawlasses on here going on about "no other screens do this!?!?" "For this much money, it should be perfect!!!!".
LMAO, that's the funniest thing I've seen all week considering all the constant *****ing on here. Thanks for the share

Lawlrus said:
Wait a minute. That doesn't make sense, so what about all the bawlasses on here going on about "no other screens do this!?!?" "For this much money, it should be perfect!!!!".
LMAO, that's the funniest thing I've seen all week considering all the constant *****ing on here. Thanks for the share
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EXACTLY!!!

I just received my iPhone X yesterday and noticed color shifting right away. The screen is warmer than my Pixel 2 XL and the color shift happens at almost the same angles. When looking at a predominantly white image, the screen looks yellowish straight on (again, due to the warmer calibration) and then starting at a 30 degree angle, has a similar color profile to my Pixel 2 XL when looking straight on.
So, where's the outrage on Apple's display? Also, wondering if this what Google meant when they said the blue shift was by design. Basically, that they could've opted for a warmer calibration when looking at the screen straight on like the iPhone X but opted for cooler tones instead.

leet414 said:
I just received my iPhone X yesterday and noticed color shifting right away. The screen is warmer than my Pixel 2 XL and the color shift happens at almost the same angles. When looking at a predominantly white image, the screen looks yellowish straight on (again, due to the warmer calibration) and then starting at a 30 degree angle, has a similar color profile to my Pixel 2 XL when looking straight on.
So, where's the outrage on Apple's display? Also, wondering if this what Google meant when they said the blue shift was by design. Basically, that they could've opted for a warmer calibration when looking at the screen straight on like the iPhone X but opted for cooler tones instead.
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I'm sure there won't be. The Android community is much more whiney and entitled then hipsters using iPhones.

Lawlrus said:
I'm sure there won't be. The Android community is much more whiney and entitled then hipsters using iPhones.
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To be fair.... Users whining on forums and social media is one thing, when the entire tech media industry smears your product is another. Last time I saw such a nasty smear as what the tech media did to the 2 XL I had the runny ****s.

Pretty funny considering I read a couple bashing the pixel 2 xl saying they were going to get the far superior iPhone x instead. Irony.

https://www.slashgear.com/apple-warns-of-iphone-x-oled-burn-in-04506844/
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2017/11/...lay-show-slight-visual-changes-over-time.html

It's not about whether other OLED screens can get burn in, or off axis colour shifts - but if Google's/LGs implementation of it with pOLED - is more prone, or somehow deficient - compared to the market leader in Samsung's AMOLED or Super AMOLED.
I would like to hear more from LG V30 owners (the phone is not due for a week or so in the UK for instance) as they receive and use them - to see if it suffers in the same way, being the only other phone AFAIK to use pOLED.

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It's not about whether other OLED screens can get burn in, or off axis colour shifts - but if Google's/LGs implementation of it with pOLED - is more prone, or somehow deficient - compared to the market leader in Samsung's AMOLED or Super AMOLED.
I would like to hear more from LG V30 owners (the phone is not due for a week or so in the UK for instance) as they receive and use them - to see if it suffers in the same way, being the only other phone AFAIK to use pOLED.
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From what I've gathered, the polorized layer is the biggest reason of the shift, and p-oled versus AMOLED is the reason for retention/burn in

A comparison with a "flagship" device. Notice which has the most off axis blue shift.
https://youtu.be/zTJZx1IO2To?t=1m14s

Maybe some people will start to realize that no phone is perfect and they all have some type of issues. No matter what the cost is... Had the pink line problem on my S7 Edge.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/11/1...isplay/?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=webfeeds
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leet414 said:
I just received my iPhone X yesterday and noticed color shifting right away. The screen is warmer than my Pixel 2 XL and the color shift happens at almost the same angles. When looking at a predominantly white image, the screen looks yellowish straight on (again, due to the warmer calibration) and then starting at a 30 degree angle, has a similar color profile to my Pixel 2 XL when looking straight on.
So, where's the outrage on Apple's display? Also, wondering if this what Google meant when they said the blue shift was by design. Basically, that they could've opted for a warmer calibration when looking at the screen straight on like the iPhone X but opted for cooler tones instead.
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the iSheep don't complain... they just take the slap in the face and keep asking for more

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Purple tint on AT&T screen

As reported at BGR, I too have noticed a slightly purple/red tint to my AT&T N1 vs. the TMO version I've been using on AT&T's network when compared side-by-side. The TMO version almost seems like it has a yellow tint in comparison, and is certainly warmer as far as color temp goes.
Anyone else here in the forum have both versions and can report on how their screens compare? I'm debating whether it's worth sending this back but would first like to know if there are any AT&T screens that do NOT exhibit this appearance when shown side-by-side with the TMO counterpart.
Please share your experience if you own both or can compare to a friend's!
boygeniusreport.com/2010/03/18/google-nexus-one-for-att-shipping-with-bad-displays/
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I just have the AT&T but I LOVE the screen.
The viewing angle, brightness, color pop are the best ive seen on any phone.
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As reported at BGR, I too have noticed a slightly purple/red tint to my AT&T N1 vs. the TMO version I've been using on AT&T's network when compared side-by-side. The TMO version almost seems like it has a yellow tint in comparison, and is certainly warmer as far as color temp goes.
Anyone else here in the forum have both versions and can report on how their screens compare? I'm debating whether it's worth sending this back but would first like to know if there are any AT&T screens that do NOT exhibit this appearance when shown side-by-side with the TMO counterpart.
Please share your experience if you own both or can compare to a friend's!
boygeniusreport.com/2010/03/18/google-nexus-one-for-att-shipping-with-bad-displays/
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LOL fricken BGR. Such Apple fanboys, publicizing every single negative rumor (without sources or data of course) they can to make Android look bad.
I like the latest guy's comments:
While I generally enjoy reading the latest rumors and non-news on BGR, I have to say that this post is pretty poor. Besides being terribly written (hard to even tell what the writer’s point is after 1st 3 sentences), it is so incredibly vague on details as to be meaningless. What exactly does “We’ve confirmed that this is happening to more than just our device” mean? Is there some reason the author is withholding this important bit of info? Is it one other device, 5, 20, 50? Give me a break. If you’re going to go about leveling claims like this, at least have _some_ semblance of not being total bs, really now.
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I unsubscribed to BGR in Google Reader months ago after reading this particular piece of /facepalm: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/01/09/google-android-personal-thoughts/
BGR is nothing but Apple fanboy POS. It's no wonder Marc Flores left to techcrunch.com.
Paul22000 said:
LOL fricken BGR. Such Apple fanboys, publicizing every single negative rumor (without sources or data of course) they can to make Android look bad.
I like the latest guy's comments:
I unsubscribed to BGR in Google Reader months ago after reading this particular piece of /facepalm: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/01/09/google-android-personal-thoughts/
BGR is nothing but Apple fanboy POS. It's no wonder Marc Flores left to techcrunch.com.
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I've gotta say that while I think he is mistaken on some points, I gotta agree with the feel of the article on that one (the one that made you unsubscribe), and I'm about as anti-Apple as it gets.
Yeah, BGR can be great for product leaks to stay abreast of what's coming down the road, but they can definitely be biased.
It's not the end of the world, and I may not have noticed it if I hadn't put the units side-by-side - just trying to determine if this screen behavior is in the minority and actually a manufacturing defect. I'd be less interested if I hadn't just plunked down $579 ($50 WA sales tax) - you want to get what you pay for!
Mostly I'm just anxious to root this and get CM & the undervolted kernel up and running, like I have on my TMO unit. Don't want to unlock the bootloader though if it's heading back to the GOOG mothership.
wow, that drive me crazy, i have 2 units, the "old" in the left and the atnt in the right:
I got my AT&T N1 yesterday and yes, there is a more noticeable purple hue on its display compared to the 2 month old N1 while on the lowest brightness setting.
Funny thing is, I seem to recall my original N1 having a purple hue on the lowest brightness too, but then that was two months ago. Does the display change over time or am I mistaken?
Either way, I'm not sending the phone back, it's minor.
rotohammer said:
I got my AT&T N1 yesterday and yes, there is a more noticeable purple hue on its display compared to the 2 moth old N1 while on the lowest brightness setting.
Funny thing is, I seem to recall my original N1 having a purple hue on the lowest brightness too, but then that was two months ago. Does the display change over time or am I mistaken?
Either way, I'm not sending the phone back.
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Maybe the Nexus One has to age like a fine wine?
I see the difference but its not serious. Its a matter of opinion really. I like the warmer look of the T-Mo version but that wouldn't stop me from getting the AT&T version. I'd rather have a desire thought. Getting tired of waiting though so we will see.
Got my AT&T N1 on Wednesday. I haven't had any problems with the screen.
The blacks are black and the whites are eye-piercingly white (on max brightness -- just white white on dim/regular brightness).
Maybe bad sets? Maybe they need warming up?
Anyone got a link to a picture that should show purple hues on my screen?
Antioch18 said:
Got my AT&T N1 on Wednesday. I haven't had any problems with the screen.
The blacks are black and the whites are eye-piercingly white (on max brightness -- just white white on dim/regular brightness).
Maybe bad sets? Maybe they need warming up?
Anyone got a link to a picture that should show purple hues on my screen?
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+ one for a picture.
I can't tell a difference on mine, but I don't have a T-Mob one to compare with.
quaa said:
+ one for a picture.
+ one for pic.
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On second thought - maybe I'd rather not see a pic and smash my rose-colored perception of the phone? lol
Don't know if this is the best pic or not, but I find that the reference photos they use on dpreview.com for their camera reviews have a lot of good color references in them:
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Don't know if this is the best pic or not, but I find that the reference photos they use on dpreview.com for their camera reviews have a lot of good color references in them:
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Thank you so much for this. Upon loading this image up on my computer, and then loading it via the phone browser I can confirm that my ATT nexus one's screen is SPOT on for color balance [and I was a little afraid of what I'd find]. This is compared to a highly calibrated monitor used from print ad creation. Kudos HTC
super helpful post, thanks akgrown
be interesting to see what tmobile nexus one users might yeild from a similar test?
liorra3 said:
wow, that drive me crazy, i have 2 units, the "old" in the left and the atnt in the right:
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Try the test image posted in this thread:
a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/NikonD3s/samples/comparedto/boxraw/d3s-DSC_3302-acr.jpg
see which units are "closer" to true color? My ATT unit is spot on with its calibration.
No problem - glad you found it helpful! I'm going to try the same test myself, once I get home, against my calibrated PC monitor.
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My ATT unit is spot on with its calibration.
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As I said, BGR is nothing but a bunch of Apple fanboy garbage spewing out unsubstantiated Android hate for no reason.
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As I said, BGR is nothing but a bunch of Apple fanboy garbage spewing out unsubstantiated Android hate for no reason.
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Well, there's still the possibility that some units have a skewed color temp/saturation. I'm hoping my results will align with strongergodzilla's, tho.
Also, the tint is definitely most noticeable at the lowest brightness setting, so it might take a little tweaking of monitor brightness to compare apples to apples. However, if the colors match up at "normal" brightness levels, that's good enough for me.
here you go (from some angles), on the bottom is the atnt:
Actually in the past with the numerous iphones i had, there were many times when SERIAL numbers were passed around about which iphone series had a better screen and so on. Which turned out to be fairly true, it was merely a hardware change or different screen manufacturer source who knows. But i for some reason DOUBT its a quality control problem that me though

Screen has a yellow tint

I know that no one waiting for their phone wants to see a thread like this, but I got my phone today from moto and noticed that the screen has a yellow tint to it. It isn't quite as bad when it is turned all the way up, but I don't think most of us use the phone day to day at 100% brightness. The attached picture is the N6 next to my OPO. I was just curious if anyone that got theirs today noticed the same thing.
RMA
A more ironic comparison could never have been made. LOL!
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RMA
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I have a feeling that will ultimately be necessary. It just sucks because I REALLY don't feel like dealing with the hassle.
Thats the only benefit of Google Play.
You got your phone first but if I have to RMA (If I ever get the phone) they will send me a replacement first.
Woah the opo looks bright compared to the nexus 6. Let's wait until more of us get it before deciding to rma.
One thing is moto will do advanced rma so it won't take 2 months to return it like it did for my opo.
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just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
Hope this isn't by design. With LCDs, this could be a bad backlight. Color temp isn't controlled by a backlight with AMOLED, though, so I'm not sure how this could be a hardware problem. More than one phone has been released where manufacturers tried the "warm" color temp route before customers complained and they patched a cooler temp. Even iPhone went through it.
selayan said:
Woah the opo looks bright compared to the nexus 6. Let's wait until more of us get it before deciding to rma.
One thing is moto will do advanced rma so it won't take 2 months to return it like it did for my opo.
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I will def wait a few days and give more people a chance to get it before doing anything. And thank god for companies better than OnePlus. Well..at least better at RMA...I wouldn't say that this "launch" was much less frustrating than theirs.
rdmetz said:
just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
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That is what I am leaning towards. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up to keep an eye out for it and also see what you all thought.
bholyk said:
I will def wait a few days and give more people a chance to get it before doing anything. And thank god for companies better than OnePlus. Well..at least better at RMA...I wouldn't say that this "launch" was much less frustrating than theirs.
That is what I am leaning towards. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up to keep an eye out for it and also see what you all thought.
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Most people prefer a cooler display. If it's just the color profile, it'll be fixed by someone in a matter of days. The plus of an open phone.
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The plus of an open phone.
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Amen to that
rdmetz said:
just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
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I think this is right. It looks like "normal" vs "cool" display modes on my S4. I stuck with "normal".
I am sure people will come out with apps to change it, like my S4. Might have to be root/built-in custom ROM feature, though.
I mentioned this over the weekend that the nexus 6 a warmer tuned color temp to it when I compared it to my opo and g3 at the tmo store. Looks like it might be pretty prevalent.
Tsukasa Buddha said:
I think this is right. It looks like "normal" vs "cool" display modes on my S4. I stuck with "normal".
I am sure people will come out with apps to change it, like my S4. Might have to be root/built-in custom ROM feature, though.
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It's usually done at the kernel level, but could be made to be adjusted outside of hardcoded settings if coded to do so.
rdmetz said:
just looks like a warm display vs a cooler display...as in color temps. I dont see any problem with it in fact 1+1 looks too "cool" for my tastes.
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Agreed. Looks like the N6 is more color accurate and the 1plus1 looks blue
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I mentioned this over the weekend that the nexus 6 a warmer tuned color temp to it when I compared it to my opo and g3 at the tmo store. Looks like it might be pretty prevalent.
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I must have missed that post. Hopefully if most people don't like it Google with make it cooler in a future update or maybe my eyes just need to get used to more accurate color temps.
bholyk said:
I know that no one waiting for their phone wants to see a thread like this, but I got my phone today from moto and noticed that the screen has a yellow tint to it. It isn't quite as bad when it is turned all the way up, but I don't think most of us use the phone day to day at 100% brightness. The attached picture is the N6 next to my OPO. I was just curious if anyone that got theirs today noticed the same thing.
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Could this be the digitizer adhesive issue we've seen before from the first phones right off the manufacturing line? Basically it's where the glue behind the screen has not fully had time to dry and go completely clear. It happened with iPhone 4s and 5 launches, HTC, Moto X, and others. It usually goes away over time, but people often get replacements anyway. Since that may be hard to do this instant, I'd say give it a week or two.
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I must have missed that post. Hopefully if most people don't like it Google with make it cooler in a future update or maybe my eyes just need to get used to more accurate color temps.
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They went through this with the Nexus 4. It'll be taken care of.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol
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Could this be the digitizer adhesive issue we've seen before from the first phones right off the manufacturing line? Basically it's where the glue behind the screen has not fully had time to dry and go completely clear. It happened with iPhone 4s and 5 launches, HTC, Moto X, and others. It usually goes away over time, but people often get replacements anyway. Since that may be hard to do this instant, I'd say give it a week or two.
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I was thinking the same thing but when I read about it online it said that most of the time if it is a glue issue then the yellowing is more splotchy and not an even full screen distribution. But either way I will give it some time to see what happens
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They went through this with the Nexus 4. It'll be taken care of.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol
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Good to know, thanks

Slight pink hue.

I have noticed my unit has a slight pink hue. When tilting device vertically I can see it disappears and its only visible when looking straight on the screen.
I am not used to AMOLED displays, last I used was Galaxy S2 is this a common issue or maybe not an issue?
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I saw this too, but it seems to have settled with use
I have a replacement coming tomorrow for slight cosmetic damage on the back so will see if it has that hue or not
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I have a replacement coming tomorrow for slight cosmetic damage on the back so will see if it has that hue or not
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I take back my original reply, pink hue still there
It looks like its the "feature" of this panel. Something I need to get used to.
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Are you sure its not your face, mine looks pinkish dead on and looks normal again at an angle.
Switch to sRGB aswel as the out of the box settings look like a HD Cartoon
I don't think it's a face reflection. I have tried sRGB but its way too washed for my liking.
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My display is warmer/yellower than I expected straight on (not as much from an angle) - I thought they figured this stuff out by now?
When I turn on sRGB mode it makes it less yellow but too washed out and it doesn't seem to stick after reboot. Anyone?
Put it this way, whites on mine definitely do not look pure white like some reviews have said. I hate how screens can differ....
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My display is warmer/yellower than I expected straight on (not as much from an angle) - I thought they figured this stuff out by now?
When I turn on sRGB mode it makes it less yellow but too washed out and it doesn't seem to stick after reboot. Anyone?
Put it this way, whites on mine definitely do not look pure white like some reviews have said. I hate how screens can differ....
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I feel mine is the same. I recently had a HTC one m7 so maybe it is just me being not used to AMOLED displays but mine feels very yellow/warm... I can only see true whites when looking at the screen from an angle!
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I feel mine is the same. I recently had a HTC one m7 so maybe it is just me being not used to AMOLED displays but mine feels very yellow/warm... I can only see true whites when looking at the screen from an angle!
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Yes sounds like mine. I called Google and they said if I want I can have another sent to me (they would put a hold/authorization charge on my account) and then I send the original back when received. Then the hold/charge is dropped. I told them I'd think about it.
Any chance the warmness will change/look more normal over time or no? I'm pretty positive that it is actually more yellow than it is supposed to be compared to "normal" ones, so don't second guess yourself if you think it is. I've had this issue so many times in the past with phones....
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Yes sounds like mine. I called Google and they said if I want I can have another sent to me (they would put a hold/authorization charge on my account) and then I send the original back when received. Then the hold/charge is dropped. I told them I'd think about it.
Any chance the warmness will change/look more normal over time or no? I'm pretty positive that it is actually more yellow than it is supposed to be compared to "normal" ones, so don't second guess yourself if you think it is. I've had this issue so many times in the past with phones....
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Hmm.. It's a bit gutting if something is wrong! I've just managed to set the darn thing up. It does feel awfully yellow... The only way I could know if it wasn't right was to see another one... So maybe I'll have to pop to CPW and see if they have a display one to compare to.. I only have 14 days to do an exchange of needed and I'm already 2 days into that now!
I'd feel stupid if I took this back and nothing was wrong but at the same time I'd feel stupid keeping this handset and finding out that the screen was rubbish!
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Hmm.. It's a bit gutting if something is wrong! I've just managed to set the darn thing up. It does feel awfully yellow... The only way I could know if it wasn't right was to see another one... So maybe I'll have to pop to CPW and see if they have a display one to compare to.. I only have 14 days to do an exchange of needed and I'm already 2 days into that now!
I'd feel stupid if I took this back and nothing was wrong but at the same time I'd feel stupid keeping this handset and finding out that the screen was rubbish!
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I hear ya, yeah we do have 2 weeks but they also said we have a 1 year warranty of some type..not sure what the difference is but she said they would only replace with new ones right now since no refurbs.
Not sure what to do....
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I hear ya, yeah we do have 2 weeks but they also said we have a 1 year warranty of some type..not sure what the difference is but she said they would only replace with new ones right now since no refurbs.
Not sure what to do....
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I've just read online the 5x has had massive issues with yellow screens. Google is replacing them so I'm definitely going to pop into CPW and raise the issue with them. When holding my phone next to my old HTC one m7 its clearly very yellow, which can't be right!
Frustrating as I imagine that CPW won't have a replacement in stock yet...
Just google nexus 5x yellow screen to see what has been happening!
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I've just read online the 5x has had massive issues with yellow screens. Google is replacing them so I'm definitely going to pop into CPW and raise the issue with them. When holding my phone next to my old HTC one m7 its clearly very yellow, which can't be right!
Frustrating as I imagine that CPW won't have a replacement in stock yet...
Just google nexus 5x yellow screen to see what has been happening!
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Yep I saw the 5X issues.
Well let me know what happens when you go.
Thanks.
Every amoled I have has had this to a certain extent or another. My GS6 edge, my Moto Maxx (international version of the turbo).. It's something I have grown use to on amoled displays. I can see it in all of them, even if it's slight. Some people just do not see it or notice it for whatever reason.
I have a felling that all phones will have this "issue".
I had mine against Galaxy S6 edge plus and it seemed that mine has a better colours etc. But it was on the first day and I didn't notice pink/yellow hue so wasn't looking for it in Samsung device.
Regarding CPW exchange stock. I have ordered it this morning in store and got a text it has been despatched so should have it tomorrow.
So don't worry and go to store. Just say you spoke to customer service and they told you to come to store to order new one.
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Every amoled I have has had this to a certain extent or another. My GS6 edge, my Moto Maxx (international version of the turbo).. It's something I have grown use to on amoled displays. I can see it in all of them, even if it's slight. Some people just do not see it or notice it for whatever reason.
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I was just going to ask this - for the people who are saying the screen is great and whites are really white, etc...I mean they can't really be seeing what we are seeing right? It's not awful or terrible but it is definitely noticeable slightly yellowish/warm to me, especially compared to my LCD G3 screen and an iPhone 5 screen.
Do you really think all AMOLEDs are slightly yellow/warm? I can't let myself believe that but at the same time I haven't had an AMOLED in a while so it's hard for me to decide in my mind...
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I was just going to ask this - for the people who are saying the screen is great and whites are really white, etc...I mean they can't really be seeing what we are seeing right? It's not awful or terrible but it is definitely noticeable slightly yellowish/warm to me, especially compared to my LCD G3 screen and an iPhone 5 screen.
Do you really think all AMOLEDs are slightly yellow/warm? I can't let myself believe that but at the same time I haven't had an AMOLED in a while so it's hard for me to decide in my mind...
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I was talking more about the pinkish hue. Amoled whites have always sucked. lol They are never white but always have a tint to them. With the nexus s it was a blueish tint, with later devices like the GS6, Turbo etc... it's a pinkish tint.. I mean if you just do a search of Insert_any_device_name_that_uses_amoled_screens_here and "pink tint" or "blue tint" or "purple tint" there will be at least one thread or something about it online for every single device.. lol I think some people's eyes aren't as sensitive to it so it's not as noticeable to them
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I was talking more about the pinkish hue. Amoled whites have always sucked. lol They are never white but always have a tint to them. With the nexus s it was a blueish tint, with later devices like the GS6, Turbo etc... it's a pinkish tint.. I mean if you just do a search of Insert_any_device_name_that_uses_amoled_screens_here and "pink tint" or "blue tint" or "purple tint" there will be at least one thread or something about it online for every single device.. lol I think some people's eyes aren't as sensitive to it so it's not as noticeable to them
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Well I consider mine more yellow than pinkish, and also goes away when you tilt it - but I'm sure everyone sees the temperature slightly different.
I know there are always variations of screens but knowing that there PROBABLY is a much more balanced/correct version of the display out there is an awful feeling - the thought of having to get a second one and the second one will possibly suck too is just the worst (first world problems).
It also sucks that these aren't in local stores to go in and compare the display to.
Fwiw, mines the exact same way. There's a small degree of head-on angle that goes yellow-whites instead of bluish-whites.
Putting it side-by-side with my Turbo, its still a lot less yellow and I never had an issue with the Turbo screen.

Marques Brownlee has spoken!

Check out MKBHD's new review of the Pixel 2 / XL. Thoughts?
Halt shipping and conduct a QC investigation...
Watched this video this morning! Can't wait for my P2XL to arrive tomorrow!
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As always, an honest review.
Makes me more excited for my delivery, although it is one day past my ship date and I have no confirmation.
Blue hue, won't bother me at all.
Muted colors. I believe google will provide some options with a software update at some point, but I've already seen the phone at Verizon and the colors didn't bother me at all.
Otherwise, the phone will definitely be the best I've ever had.
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As always, an honest review.
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I worry sometimes that MKBHD is too much of an android fanboy & then a review comes out like this & I don't care anymore. LOL!
Seriously, I've watched him since he was a teenager & I believe what he says.
I don't know what to think anymore. Some say this phone is a turd. Others, like MKBHD, praise it. Guess I'm glad I didn't cancel my order and I can find out for myself. Mine is on a truck for delivery - three full days ahead of schedule. So that's good. Although I'm not sure why I'm getting my 128gb black version ahead of people who ordered a full day before me, but that's Google's terrible shipping for you.
I'm going to honestly say that all this news on the Pixel 2XL feels like a smear campaign or something. I swear, I wasn't seeing as many news stories as when Samsung had phones exploding and they were refusing to let them on planes. Why is something that is largely subjective as screen preference, dotted with a few actual hardware defects being plastered everywhere on the internet. I seriously can't scroll one or two screens, in Google, Newstand, Google+, Facebook, etc without seeing something about the damn screen.
b ..bb.bbbut the screen looks funny when i try to watch a YouTube video at the lowest light setting with 1 eye holding it sideways with a strobe light going off in the background
seriously though i don't know. Google F'ed my shipping up and i went from having it yesterday to having it Thursday so id love to put this thing to the test myself but the wait continues.
Its objectively a bad screen, thats why. Honestly i don't get why people are defending the screen. Its one thing to say you acknowledge the problem but are ok with it, but to pretend this isn't an issue is crazy and if you're ok with a $850+ phone with a bad display, then thats cool, enjoy it. I've seen three pixel 2xl's in real life (the one i bought and two others coworkers bought) and the extreme blue shift is identical on all of them, this is just how the screen is. Its worse than my 2 year old 6p screen. Do i love everything else about the phone, yes, is the display a dealer breaker for me, yes, is it for everyone, no; but again that doesnt make the screen ok on a flagship top of the price range phone. I think its embarrassing to the reviewers who were ok with it, they should be universally trashing this display, cause its the worse ive ever seen on a flagship phone.
love how he explained the color issue.
He made a great review! I don't know why everyone is crying so much. This phone is amazing. I've had it for three days now and I might be lucky but I have 0 issues. The colors for me are fine and it's really smooth. I'm extremely happy with my purchase and can't wait for further development for this phone.
I like his reviews as he is seeing the device for what it is and compares it to how he uses it.. Yes his use might be different than ours but at least he is reviewing in the sense of a normal user (or at least for me he does). The whole display thing i feel is being blown way out of proportion. Its like if no one ever mentioned it would you have really noticed it? or would you have gone about your day like it never existed. For cases where it is faulty that is where warranty comes in play. so i'll be getting my phone and going through my works but most likely i will be keeping mine
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Its like if no one ever mentioned it would you have really noticed it?
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Both my wife and several coworkers pointed out the tint immediately, "why is it so blue" without any understanding of the controversy around it. I thought i had a particularly bad one, as the blue tint happens at around a 10% angle, but two other coworkers have gotten theirs and they're identical. I thought i could deal with it, but in normal use i dont look at my phone straight on its almost always at a slight angle, so the top of the phone would be blue tinted and the bottom would look fine, and scrolling with two different color temps is a weird thing, particularly peoples faces.
To be clear, all phones shift a little, my nexus 6p has a slight blue shift then rainbow at nearly flat, and my wifes S8 has a slight red shift then rainbows, but the P2XL shift is in another world, its so extreme and so fast, and actually gets better looking at extreme angles than at slight ones.
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Both my wife and several coworkers pointed out the tint immediately, "why is it so blue" without any understanding of the controversy around it. I thought i had a particularly bad one, as the blue tint happens at around a 10% angle, but two other coworkers have gotten theirs and they're identical. I thought i could deal with it, but in normal use i dont look at my phone straight on its almost always at a slight angle, so the top of the phone would be blue tinted and the bottom would look fine, and scrolling with two different color temps is a weird thing, particularly peoples faces.
To be clear, all phones shift a little, my nexus 6p has a slight blue shift then rainbow at nearly flat, and my wifes S8 has a slight red shift then rainbows, but the P2XL shift is in another world, its so extreme and so fast, and actually gets better looking at extreme angles than at slight ones.
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Thanks for the information. i do believe you on the blue tint being probably that bad. me personally i would have to use it for a week before i can decide if that will really bother me. if other see it i'm eh about it cause it's not their phone. but glad to know you noticed other people have noticed on your phone.
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Its objectively a bad screen, thats why. Honestly i don't get why people are defending the screen. Its one thing to say you acknowledge the problem but are ok with it, but to pretend this isn't an issue is crazy and if you're ok with a $850+ phone with a bad display, then thats cool, enjoy it. I've seen three pixel 2xl's in real life (the one i bought and two others coworkers bought) and the extreme blue shift is identical on all of them, this is just how the screen is. Its worse than my 2 year old 6p screen. Do i love everything else about the phone, yes, is the display a dealer breaker for me, yes, is it for everyone, no; but again that doesnt make the screen ok on a flagship top of the price range phone. I think its embarrassing to the reviewers who were ok with it, they should be universally trashing this display, cause its the worse ive ever seen on a flagship phone.
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Totally agreed with you on this. for such a high price flagship, we shouldn't be able to oversee issues like this. That's the reason I cancelled it. I'll wait a few more weeks or months if things gets better and re-order. For now, I wouldn't lie to my self and say I can live with this.
His comments on the display were interesting and it is odd that the display supports a wider color gamut but isn't using it (as evidenced by Firefox). That said, the images people typically use to compare the display are grossly oversaturated even if they are using a wider gamut. The first comparison picture he uses with the S8 has much more detail in the Pixel version because the S8 is blowing out the colors so much to produce those saturated neon greens. I'd be interested to actually see the Pixel up against another display that is using proper color saturation with a wider gamut.
Rodeojones said:
I don't know what to think anymore. Some say this phone is a turd. Others, like MKBHD, praise it. Guess I'm glad I didn't cancel my order and I can find out for myself. Mine is on a truck for delivery - three full days ahead of schedule. So that's good. Although I'm not sure why I'm getting my 128gb black version ahead of people who ordered a full day before me, but that's Google's terrible shipping for you.
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I feel like I can live with the screen washout and blue tint at the angle. I'm a little worried about the screen burn in and clucky noises that people are reporting hopefully those are just defects from a really bad batch. I get mine tomorrow so I will definitely be keeping an eye on it. If anything is bad I return it and just get the Pixel XL.
Notable XDA Dev supercurio sheds some light on some of the claims made in Marques' review.
Keep in mind this guy made the software that Erica Griffin used to measure the display. He knows what he's talking about, more than most.
https://plus.google.com/+supercurioFrancoisSimond/posts/8feW5GMgGgt
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Rodeojones said:
I don't know what to think anymore. Some say this phone is a turd. Others, like MKBHD, praise it. Guess I'm glad I didn't cancel my order and I can find out for myself. Mine is on a truck for delivery - three full days ahead of schedule. So that's good. Although I'm not sure why I'm getting my 128gb black version ahead of people who ordered a full day before me, but that's Google's terrible shipping for you.
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Go with your own review, who knows what some reviewers motives are. Hell id praise a phone if it meant they kept sending me free stuff and devices! MKBHD is honest I believe though
The blue tint is when it's at a certain angle. Now that angle may be less than most phones, but I don't know of anyone who reads their phone at an angle. He explains that in the video as well. Like he said if your "that guy/gal' then this phone isn't for you. I think when people bring stuff up that bothers them & make a big deal about it everyone is looking for it. If other reviewers had never said anything this wouldn't be as big of an issue. Just nitpicking now.

complainers will be complainers

I recently got the pixel 2 Xl. I love it, it's better than the Nexus 6p that I had. I haven't noticed any of the issues that people have been mentioning. My theory is people complain about the smallest things and they will continue to complain even if they switch to a different phone. They will always find something wrong to complain about. I think a lot of the noise is fake news from people that are promoting other devices. Give the phone a try if you like it keep it if you don't return it. The sound is good and I don't notice any screen burn-in.
Or the quality varies between devices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Probably more likely than fake news from device shills
Have you considered that it is possible that there is device-to-device variability? I mean several posters have put up side-by-side images of 2 different P2XL's that clearly showed one was very blue and the other wasn't. Lucky you that you got a good one but you should assume that just because your's is good that they all are.
Pappy35 said:
Have you considered that it is possible that there is device-to-device variability? I mean several posters have put up side-by-side images of 2 different P2XL's that clearly showed one was very blue and the other wasn't. Lucky you that you got a good one but you should assume that just because your's is good that they all are.
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Nope. His device is fine which means everything else is #fakenews.
Haha...of course! What was I thinking!!!
pknath19 said:
I recently got the pixel 2 Xl. I love it, it's better than the Nexus 6p that I had. I haven't noticed any of the issues that people have been mentioning. My theory is people complain about the smallest things and they will continue to complain even if they switch to a different phone. They will always find something wrong to complain about. I think a lot of the noise is fake news from people that are promoting other devices. Give the phone a try if you like it keep it if you don't return it. The sound is good and I don't notice any screen burn-in.
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Look at all the pics in another P2XL thread here with pictures of exact same models, and they vary in how blue their tint is.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/help/screen-issue-blue-shift-real-unlucky-t3696638
Mine is fffn perfect, but a large number of other buyers have the tint big time. This is not fake news or whiners.
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Nope. His device is fine which means everything else is #fakenews.
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Isn't that the rules on the internet?
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Isn't that the rules on the internet?
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MY REALITY IS FINE, SO EVERYTHING ELSE IS FAKE N00Z! But seriously, I think its pretty evident at this point that there are variations in the severity of the "blue shift". I've been keeping my eye on this.
I have the blue tint issue. It's not that bad. Google has expanded the warranty if I don't like it I can return it. If this is the only thing wrong with the phone I will be happy with it. Poke the internet and it pokes back. I more put this comment out so I didn't have to search all the forums to find all the issues. I figured people would rant about my post and post the issues. It's working Thanks for sharing.
There are legitimate issues here, screen burn in I would rate as chief among them. But they are being blown waaaaaaaaaaay out of proportion. They do this for every device that comes out. Coming up with umpteen reasons why "x" device has the worst "y" component in smartphone history.
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Use a black theme, holy **** people, no more blue tint, and no burn in. I'm so sick of every other thread talking about the blue tint. Get rid of the phone, get something else and leave if you can't handle the "screen issues"
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There are legitimate issues here, screen burn in I would rate as chief among them. But they are being blown waaaaaaaaaaay out of proportion. They do this for every device that comes out. Coming up with umpteen reasons why "x" device has the worst "y" component in smartphone history.
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my s7 edge has blue shift at very extreme angles but my new P2XL has it straight on at 0degrees. It's defective for sure. Going back as no matter what google lies about the screen issues, this shouldn't be this blue! Also for future reference, Google chat is refusing to RMA blue screen problems but if you call in they'll replace it.
Oh yeah btw the guy on the phone was linked to one of the pages on this site showing side by side comparisons and stated "Yeah it's not supposed to be like that, not that blue"
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Lawlrus said:
Use a black theme, holy **** people, no more blue tint, and no burn in. I'm so sick of every other thread talking about the blue tint. Get rid of the phone, get something else and leave if you can't handle the "screen issues"
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If you don't want to hear about it stay out of the blue shift and screen issues threads. Simple as that. My screen is blue when looking straight on. Looks like hell, no I will not change all sorts of settings and/or switch to different theme just to 'HIDE' the defect with my device. Is it too much to ask for a non defective device for a $100 phone let alone a $1,000 phone! Btw mine is going back but for another one with agood acceptable screen. Congrats you got a good one right off the bat, I and a bunch of others here weren't so lucky!
@whyme45125
Pretty hard when more than half the threads on here are crying about it. Don't like the blue shift? Get a different phone stop sending it back. Get a refund and leave, or would it not sit well you have nothing to compalin about then?
Bunch of highschool girls
Lawlrus said:
@whyme45125
Pretty hard when more than half the threads on here are crying about it. Don't like the blue shift? Get a different phone stop sending it back. Get a refund and leave, or would it not sit well you have nothing to compalin about then?
Bunch of highschool girls
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so then there's a legitimate reason for the complaints then if it's more than half of us! TROLL - ignored.
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so then there's a legitimate reason for the complaints then if it's more than half of us! TROLL
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Trolling? Do you see how many posts I have? You think a troll account would last this long?
It's pretty simple. If it's a legitimate issue, then stop getting pixel 2's and get something else.
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Pretty hard when more than half the threads on here are crying about it. Don't like the blue shift? Get a different phone stop sending it back. Get a refund and leave, or would it not sit well you have nothing to compalin about then?
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So much yes.
Key advice on the internet: Don't feed the trolls
I have no doubt that there are problems. That said, people bailed before they ever got their phone simply based on strangers reports.
I do find the Note 8 is brighter with more vivid colors. That said, I've done quite a few TV calibrations and my Pixel 2 XL is closer to realistic colors than the Note 8. Samsung oversaturates colors and kicks the brightness way up to make their screens pop. They are not realistic representations of a calibrated display. Many have just gotten used to the inaccurate displays of other phones. Just my opinion.
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I have no doubt that there are problems. That said, people bailed before they ever got their phone simply based on strangers reports.
I do find the Note 8 is brighter with more vivid colors. That said, I've done quite a few TV calibrations and my Pixel 2 XL is closer to realistic colors than the Note 8. Samsung oversaturates colors and kicks the brightness way up to make their screens pop. They are not realistic representations of a calibrated display. Many have just gotten used to the inaccurate displays of other phones. Just my opinion.
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Agreed the colors represented are the closest phone I've seen to my calibrated tv. That being said the blue shift is the killer for me and a lot of others here, not the color accuracy that keeps being brought up(we all know that's a software fix for those samsung supersaturation lovers), but I am getting another one since I love this phone so much and feel it's an amazing device besides the screen problem on mine.
pknath19 said:
I recently got the pixel 2 Xl. I love it, it's better than the Nexus 6p that I had. I haven't noticed any of the issues that people have been mentioning. My theory is people complain about the smallest things and they will continue to complain even if they switch to a different phone. They will always find something wrong to complain about. I think a lot of the noise is fake news from people that are promoting other devices. Give the phone a try if you like it keep it if you don't return it. The sound is good and I don't notice any screen burn-in.
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Definitely not fake news. Mine looks nothing like the ones on display at Verizon near me. I took a picture of mine while waiting in the Google Support chat queue tonight. It's definitely not good on my unit.

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