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Universal suddenly shuts down; battery or other problem?

I recently acquired a HTC Universal for dirt cheap, and have found the first problem to explain the low price: Whenever I'm using a "power-hungry" application (TCPMP, Internet via Wi-Fi) it eventually just blacks out. Full shutdown without warning.
When trying to reactivate the unit, it reboots as if after a soft reset.
In fact, if I try to reactivate it too quickly, even the reboot fails.
None of the above happens when on external power.
This leads me to think that it's nothing worse than a battery that's lost its mojo, but since there is no warning about low battery, and when the reboot finishes successfully even SPB says the battery is somewhere around 70%, I want to run this by you guys.
What do you think? Just go get a new battery, or is there something else going on which will make buying a new battery just a waste of money?

I'd say it's the battery, 99% sure.
I'ts gotten old and its voltage breaks down under load. If you have proper equipment and a glimpse of an idea what you're doing you should drain about 300mA from the battery and measure its output voltage.
You'll most likely see it going below 3.0V quickly.

I'm afraid I don't have that equipment, but all I really needed to hear was that it's probably the battery.
Now I can stop thinking about it and just order a new batery.

Unexpected reboot - Apparently bettery issue
Hey Holybear, my device shows exactly same symptom, If possible let us know if bat replacement solved the issue>

Holy Bear said:
I recently acquired a HTC Universal for dirt cheap, and have found the first problem to explain the low price: Whenever I'm using a "power-hungry" application (TCPMP, Internet via Wi-Fi) it eventually just blacks out. Full shutdown without warning.
When trying to reactivate the unit, it reboots as if after a soft reset.
In fact, if I try to reactivate it too quickly, even the reboot fails.
None of the above happens when on external power.
This leads me to think that it's nothing worse than a battery that's lost its mojo, but since there is no warning about low battery, and when the reboot finishes successfully even SPB says the battery is somewhere around 70%, I want to run this by you guys.
What do you think? Just go get a new battery, or is there something else going on which will make buying a new battery just a waste of money?
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I knew I wasn't the only one withthat problem. I think i've prooved it to be a battery faultt. as if you taake te battery out after it gets to that stage where you just can not get it too complete a boot up without it shuttinng down again
take out battery ,place finer oveer all battery trmminals and plug inn your mainss charger it should now boot up and runn fin off the charger unless your finger slips off the battery terminals. thisshsowws it's the temprature sensor in the battery.
I posted a more in depth reply to a guy in the wm6 threads as wifi heeaating up battery wass shutting off his device as well

@ cyberjak
Hmm, the idea that a temperature sensor in the battery causes this problems is interesting. I'd just expect the device not being cappable of rebooting instantly, because there should be a hysteresis implemented in the battery's protection circuit.
I had the exact same problems and described them elsewhere, but in my case it surely wasn't an issue of temperature.
I'd suggest to take out the battery and wait about an hour for the device and the battery to cool off. Most likely the battery will then take a complete boot but shut down soon after that - without having gotten near to "warm" yet.
If this happens you can be sure that the battery itself is dead without needing to measure anything.

Okay, to tell you what I tried:
I ran the Universal until it spontaneously went dead.
Started bootlaoder to see how much longer it would work on that. Was a bit longer, what with low energy consumption, but soon even that wouldn't stay on for long.
Then decided to try the "old wives' tale" (meaning I don't know whether there's any sense behind it or not) of putting the battery in the freezer for a little while.
When I took it out and let it get back to normal temp, I plugged it in and after a while booted the Universal. It showed 40% battery, lower than it had ever gotten lately.
Recharged for a full day.
Tried TCPMP: went dead after three minutes.
So in my experience the above didn't help battery performance.
Am going to get a new battery in a few days; I'll keep you posted on progress as I try with a fresh battery.

I had the same problem, whenever i did something cpu intensive, it would just black out.
I just bought a new 3100mAh battery. Best thing i ever did. It might be thicker now with the new battery, but it actually feels more comfortable as a phone. Plus the new battery only cost 13 odd quid, so definately well worth it. Oh and it doubles the battery life (3100/1500 = ~2... duh)
Hope that helps.

oh you know wat i have the same problem with my Jasjar and the bigest problem that there is no batteries on market for Jasjars in my country....its looks like im living in Jurassic Century!!!

If you want i can send you a battery xplayer, they're quite cheap here.

Rc-Blob said:
I had the same problem, whenever i did something cpu intensive, it would just black out.
I just bought a new 3100mAh battery. Best thing i ever did. It might be thicker now with the new battery, but it actually feels more comfortable as a phone. Plus the new battery only cost 13 odd quid, so definately well worth it. Oh and it doubles the battery life (3100/1500 = ~2... duh)
Hope that helps.
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I ordered a regular battery replacement, but maybe I'll add a 3100mAh as well.
I could use it as a media player during long train trips.

Holy Bear said:
Okay, to tell you what I tried:
I ran the Universal until it spontaneously went dead.
Started bootlaoder to see how much longer it would work on that. Was a bit longer, what with low energy consumption, but soon even that wouldn't stay on for long.
Then decided to try the "old wives' tale" (meaning I don't know whether there's any sense behind it or not) of putting the battery in the freezer for a little while.
When I took it out and let it get back to normal temp, I plugged it in and after a while booted the Universal. It showed 40% battery, lower than it had ever gotten lately.
Recharged for a full day.
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I revived two batteries by intense cycling to work quite well again. They still black out at 20%, but only under extreme load (active gsm connection, active wifi, bluetooth and having to render a webpage).
But you should be able to discharge them below 25% at least. Else they're most certainly "too dead" already. And you should do at least 3-4 cycles.
My guess would be that the freezer finished your battery off. I don't understand how this method should work anyway, as lower temperatures reduce the time affected capacity loss. Actually the best place to store a LiPo or LIo battery is the fridge, charged about half the way.
But I also ordered two 3100mAh batteries. I'm using the Uni as a laptop replacement and the permanent wifi usage together with some cpu load and the backlight kicks the battery's ass quite hard.
In Germany the China 3100mAhs are overpriced and it's hard to get your hands on an external charger, but on Ebay.co.uk there's a seller that offers battery and charger as a bundle for about 15€. This will give me a solid 6000+mAh per day and should be enough to forget about virtually every setting related to power consumption
@ xplayer
If you haven't donw already, take a look at Ebay.com, co.uk etc and look if one of the sellers there will ship to kurdistan. You may be lucky

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If you want i can send you a battery xplayer, they're quite cheap here.
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Oh Thanx Rc-Blob....bt there is No way even to send me no addresses no posting in my country...am from kurdistan of Iraq...thanks again its looks like u sent me one...bt I even have brother in USA he can't send me...except if some one come from there so i have to wait...thanks buddy...

EvilJogga said:
I revived two batteries by intense cycling to work quite well again. They still black out at 20%, but only under extreme load (active gsm connection, active wifi, bluetooth and having to render a webpage).
But you should be able to discharge them below 25% at least. Else they're most certainly "too dead" already. And you should do at least 3-4 cycles.
My guess would be that the freezer finished your battery off. I don't understand how this method should work anyway, as lower temperatures reduce the time affected capacity loss. Actually the best place to store a LiPo or LIo battery is the fridge, charged about half the way.
But I also ordered two 3100mAh batteries. I'm using the Uni as a laptop replacement and the permanent wifi usage together with some cpu load and the backlight kicks the battery's ass quite hard.
In Germany the China 3100mAhs are overpriced and it's hard to get your hands on an external charger, but on Ebay.co.uk there's a seller that offers battery and charger as a bundle for about 15€. This will give me a solid 6000+mAh per day and should be enough to forget about virtually every setting related to power consumption
@ xplayer
If you haven't donw already, take a look at Ebay.com, co.uk etc and look if one of the sellers there will ship to kurdistan. You may be lucky
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hhh ok buddy you too for care....but there is realy no way i have to wait tell some one(my brothers friend) come from USA so he can get me one from there....its ok...i can use it yet as a normal mobile...i have some other devices for multimedia right now i can wait there is no any other ways....thanks...

Rc-Blob said:
If you want i can send you a battery xplayer, they're quite cheap here.
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Thanx for helping the guy,yo folks on xda are the best

Just to give you all the end of the story:
I ordered a regular replacement and a 3200 mAh one, and both have returned my Universal to a well-used life.
Thanks again to everyone helping me out here.

For you guys does the device switch off only when the battery is low, or any time. Cause I have this problem as well, and I was SURE that it wasn't a battery problem until I read this thread. The phone switches off intermittently, sometimes after only 3' talk time right after it had been charging for a full 8 hours! Also, usually if I let it sit there for a few hours I could then turn it back on and it would last a full day, so I knew it wasn't due to low battery.
The overheating theory would explain my problem, as, now that I think about it, all my seemingly-random shutdowns were during radio activity (making or receiving calls, especially when the phone was searching for signal, or wifi, which would almost instantly kill it). Strange that it overheats like this, most phone batteries simply run out of charge faster and faster until they can't hold a charge at all, but mine lasts almost as long as it always lasted even though it's 2 years old - unless I get the shutdown thing of course.

I asked this in another thread, but since this one is full of people who got replacement batteries I'll repeat my question here as well:
How much thicker than the standard battery are the 3100 and the 4200mAh ones?

I also got this problem recently, so I bought a new battery and although it's only a 1600mAh battery it runs great again

hey roodkapje ive got that same problem with my battery for my spv m5000 the bad news is that i cant get that batery in barbados so im all out to see

Here's one way to get a new battery

My Moto X (2013) is out of warranty and has battery that is weaker and weaker. I checked with a local battery shop (well-known US chain, often located in shopping centers and strip malls). They ordered a replacement battery overnight and replaced the "unreplaceable" battery. Pretty tricky work, I think -- check the iFixit videos and you'll see. Only problem now is a hairline crack the guy made in the back of the phone along the edge. I decided not to worry about it. The guy felt bad, so and waived his labor charge. I felt bad for him, actually.
I suspect when Moto does a factory repair, it just pulls these backs and replaces them.
Anyway, it's great to have a new battery. I prefer my Moto X to any of the current phones, which are all too plasticky or too big, not to mention too expensive.

varxx said:
Anyway, it's great to have a new battery. I prefer my Moto X to any of the current phones, which are all too plasticky or too big, not to mention too expensive.
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How much difference can you notice? Before after SOTs will be nice

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How much difference can you notice? Before after SOTs will be nice
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I've depleted it and am now recharging it from zero. I'll post some results after I do a couple of checks.

I don't think u should have depleted it to zero. New batteries like to be recharged alot. If you deplete the battery to less than 10% it goes bad alot quicker. Keep that in mind.

mlodykaras said:
I don't think u should have depleted it to zero. New batteries like to be recharged alot. If you deplete the battery to less than 10% it goes bad alot quicker. Keep that in mind.
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Ugh. I didn't know that. I just wanted to get a clean reading. Oh, well.

How much did it cost approximately?

The original price was $79 (USD) parts and labor, plus $10 overnight shipping. The guy knocked it down to $39 total because of the hairline crack. A lot for a phone battery, I know, but I wasn't willing to take on the job myself.

mlodykaras said:
I don't think u should have depleted it to zero. New batteries like to be recharged alot. If you deplete the battery to less than 10% it goes bad alot quicker. Keep that in mind.
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I don't think that really matters nowadays anymore. They are all lithium ion accumulators now and there it really doesnt matter if you charge it full or not etc.

varxx said:
My Moto X (2013) is out of warranty and has battery that is weaker and weaker. I checked with a local battery shop (well-known US chain, often located in shopping centers and strip malls). They ordered a replacement battery overnight and replaced the "unreplaceable" battery. Pretty tricky work, I think -- check the iFixit videos and you'll see. Only problem now is a hairline crack the guy made in the back of the phone along the edge. I decided not to worry about it. The guy felt bad, so and waived his labor charge. I felt bad for him, actually.
I suspect when Moto does a factory repair, it just pulls these backs and replaces them.
Anyway, it's great to have a new battery. I prefer my Moto X to any of the current phones, which are all too plasticky or too big, not to mention too expensive.
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not sure what your phone's status is (rooted, ROM version, carrier, etc) - but my battery life was fine on 4.4.2 until I unlocked the bootloader and installed the OTA 4.4.4. Then it started going downhill. After trying several custom ROMs (including LP), I was beginning to believe that my battery was dead too. But then after installing 5.1 LP, battery life is back to normal again!
So, it might help to indicate what your phone's status was prior to getting a new battery so that others can reference from there.
Not really sure if this helps, but more of FYI.

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not sure what your phone's status is (rooted, ROM version, carrier, etc) ... So, it might help to indicate what your phone's status was prior to getting a new battery so that others can reference from there.
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My phone's a Moto X 1053 GSM Developer's Edition bought in November 2013. My carrier is TMobile in the USA. I'm running 4.4.4, which I installed as soon as it was released (in Sept. 2014?). Serious battery weakness didn't show up until 3-4 months ago, so that was already some months after the 4.4.4 upgrade.
My phone is unlocked and rooted. I don't play video clips as a rule, nor do I use location services. I haven't been using the battery saver feature, though.
With my new battery, I'm seeing improvement, but I still haven't run the numbers yet. I will do that as soon as I can manage it.

O.K., here are some measurements. "Old battery" refers to my original Moto X battery after 19 months of steady use. "New battery" refers to the OEM battery installed by a technician at a battery store (see above):
In battery saver mode:
OLD BATTERY: 9-10 hours
NEW BATTERY: 18 hours
In normal mode (but still without location or bluetooth):
OLD BATTERY: 6-8 hours
NEW BATTERY: 12-13 hours
I haven't run tests with location or bluetooth on, as I almost never use those.

Any info on the specific battery model?
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dagoban said:
I don't think that really matters nowadays anymore. They are all lithium ion accumulators now and there it really doesnt matter if you charge it full or not etc.
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Actually mlodykaras is right. Modern day lithium ion battery doesn't like to be drained and preferred to be top up well in advance. On the other hand the old NaCD batteries from the 90's have a memory effect and should not be topped up until it's running low.

Is your 6p affected by the early shutdown issue?

Hey all,
I'd like to get a better view on how much 6p's are affected by this issue. I really have no clue what % we're talking about. So.. Is your 6p affected by the early shutdown issue? If not, could you tell us when you've bought your phone and, if you have accubattery installed, the capacity (health) of your battery?
Thanks in advance!

Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.

Lulzmaster said:
Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.
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Yeah this is really bad. Fortunately, I've got a new battery in it thanks to warranty. But now I'm really afraid to use the phone. I'm waiting on a response from Google on all this before using my phone again. I've used it after repair for a couple of days to see if the problem was fixed: it was.
Can't wait for the oneplus 5 to be released.

swa100 said:
Yeah this is really bad. Fortunately, I've got a new battery in it thanks to warranty. But now I'm really afraid to use the phone. I'm waiting on a response from Google on all this before using my phone again. I've used it after repair for a couple of days to see if the problem was fixed: it was.
Can't wait for the oneplus 5 to be released.
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It infuriates me because I love the phone and don't want to buy a new one.... But I can't have something that is going to die on me. I'm pretty pissed off with the state of Google hardware in general right now. Both the 5x and 6P are bootlooping and dying for no discernible reason, the Pixel and 6P have battery issues, although the Pixel, so far at least, doesn't seem to have them nearly as widespread. I feel like my phone is a ticking time bomb and that's really, really not cool.
Plus the supply issues with the Pixel all but rule that out as a replacement anyway.
I've owned three of the last four generations of Nexus phones, and while I was elated with the 6P when I got it, that glow has faded significantly. .

Lulzmaster said:
It infuriates me because I love the phone and don't want to buy a new one.... But I can't have something that is going to die on me. I'm pretty pissed off with the state of Google hardware in general right now. Both the 5x and 6P are bootlooping and dying for no discernible reason, the Pixel and 6P have battery issues, although the Pixel, so far at least, doesn't seem to have them nearly as widespread. I feel like my phone is a ticking time bomb and that's really, really not cool.
Plus the supply issues with the Pixel all but rule that out as a replacement anyway.
I've owned three of the last four generations of Nexus phones, and while I was elated with the 6P when I got it, that glow has faded significantly. .
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Yeah that ticking timebomb feeling is really annoying. I don't even dare to use the phone now it actually works, because I'm afraid that I'll f*ck up my new battery. I'm trying to wait for an official response from Google, but it's hard. I really want to know if some software f*ckup is causing these batteries to degrade faster.

I had the issue also. I bought mine in October 2015. Accubattery was showing the battery at 60% and was shutting down at random once it got below 40%. Google sent me a refurbished phone even though it was out of warranty. So far this one hasn't shut down early and accubattery shows 95%.

I got my phone mid February (Best Buy) last year and do not have the problem. Accubattery shows my battery health at 93% (3220mah). But I also protect my battery as much as possible with when to charge and never let my phone stay plugged in when topped off either.

Never had early shutdown. Had my 6p for a few months. Accubattery shows 99%.
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murphyjasonc said:
I had the issue also. I bought mine in October 2015. Accubattery was showing the battery at 60% and was shutting down at random once it got below 40%. Google sent me a refurbished phone even though it was out of warranty. So far this one hasn't shut down early and accubattery shows 95%.
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Does the battery life itself seem to be better as well? Part of my problem is that with the screen on I'm looking at an obscene drain. According to accubattery my average drain with screen on is 1100ma/h. Hell it dropped two percent in the time it took me to type this.

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Does the battery life itself seem to be better as well? Part of my problem is that with the screen on I'm looking at an obscene drain. According to accubattery my average drain with screen on is 1100ma/h. Hell it dropped two percent in the time it took me to type this.
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Yeah the battery life is a lot better. I was doing good to get 2 hours SOT on my old phone. Same setup on this one is getting 4 to 4.5 hours SOT. I don't recall what my average drain was before but now it's about 450 ma/h. Here is a screenshot.

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Yeah the battery life is a lot better. I was doing good to get 2 hours SOT on my old phone. Same setup on this one is getting 4 to 4.5 hours SOT. I don't recall what my average drain was before but now it's about 450 ma/h. Here is a screenshot.
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I may have to give that a shot then. Buying a new one really isn't in the budget right now. Did you flash back to stock or relock the bootloader before you sent it in?

Never had early shutdown, and have had my 6P since launch.... Mostly custom AOSP roms....

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I may have to give that a shot then. Buying a new one really isn't in the budget right now. Did you flash back to stock or relock the bootloader before you sent it in?
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I'm not sure it was necessary but I flashed back to stock and relocked bootloader. I didn't want to take any chances especially since they were replacing it out of warranty. Worst case I could have used Nexus protect either way. They tried to get me to do that when I called. I refused and once I mentioned the Reddit thread they agreed to replace. Saved me the $79.00 deductible.

Nope
:good::good:We have two in our family and neither one is affected. One was purchased Late 2015 and another early 2016. Both show over 95% capacity in Accubattery (mine is 97%) and I can run the battery down to 1%. Both are stock 7.1.1 one is unlocked and rooted, and the other has never been unlocked. Although I could not vote for each phone, it will be interesting to check poll results a few months down the road.

swa100 said:
Yeah that ticking timebomb feeling is really annoying. I don't even dare to use the phone now it actually works, because I'm afraid that I'll f*ck up my new battery. I'm trying to wait for an official response from Google, but it's hard. I really want to know if some software f*ckup is causing these batteries to degrade faster.
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Google's official position is that the early shutdown problem and boot loop of death are both hardware issues. People are experiencing both problems on stock Marshmallow and Nougat as well as on custom ROMs.

murphyjasonc said:
I'm not sure it was necessary but I flashed back to stock and relocked bootloader. I didn't want to take any chances especially since they were replacing it out of warranty. Worst case I could have used Nexus protect either way. They tried to get me to do that when I called. I refused and once I mentioned the Reddit thread they agreed to replace. Saved me the $79.00 deductible.
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Guess I'm making a call tomorrow then. Hope this straightens things up. Thanks!

Just as an update, I got my RMA last week and it has behaved flawlessly since. Accubattery is actually reporting 101% battery health, and It's taking a little getting used to having a phone that the battery doesn't die in two hours.

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Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.
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Same story.. getting a new battery install totally solves this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fCDOfljoQY
It's annoying not to be able to easily swap in a new battery but manufacturers could prefer people feel desperate for a yearly upgrade: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/nexus-6p-battery-replacement-options-t3628932

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Same story.. getting a new battery install totally solves this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fCDOfljoQY
It's annoying not to be able to easily swap in a new battery but manufacturers could prefer people feel desperate for a yearly upgrade: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/nexus-6p-battery-replacement-options-t3628932
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I haven't had an issue since I got my RMAd device, so yeah. I even have all the same apps installed and everything and I'm still getting ten hours of mixed usage. Performance is getting a little pokey but the phone is coming up two years old soooooooooooo I'm not surprised.
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HELP - Battery replacement

Hi
My 5X died (LG Spain told me that they don't want to repair it using the warranty, because they found this inside, I've never wet the phone..also started bull****ing about the screen, screen was perfectly fine, and recovery, i was able to enter recovery, just wasn't able to boot the phone or use it without a reboot after a few minutes...)
Anyway,
Now I'm getting a used 6P at a good price today.
The issue is the battery, apparently is in bad shape......like 74% left with 30 SoT (mainly Whatsapp), 4 hours standby, and some Spotify..(I'm not the user, but I got this info today).
So I'm planning to change the battery next week if I get this 6P.
I've already saw this video, and it's difficult mainly because of the glue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEQbQPAU9Ss
Do you have any good link to buy the battery in Europe? Some good eBay vendor..or something like that? I'd like to have good unused battery!
Thanks

thesebastian said:
Hi
My 5X died (LG Spain told me that they don't want to repair it using the warranty, because they found this inside, I've never wet the phone..also started bull****ing about the screen, screen was perfectly fine, and recovery, i was able to enter recovery, just wasn't able to boot the phone or use it without a reboot after a few minutes...)
Anyway,
Now I'm getting a used 6P at a good price today.
The issue is the battery, apparently is in bad shape......like 74% left with 30 SoT (mainly Whatsapp), 4 hours standby, and some Spotify..(I'm not the user, but I got this info today).
So I'm planning to change the battery next week if I get this 6P.
I've already saw this video, and it's difficult mainly because of the glue:
Do you have any good link to buy the battery in Europe? Some good eBay vendor..or something like that? I'd like to have good unused battery!
Thanks
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Hello... Check this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/oem-battery-t3534410
People discuss about OEM battery replacement and where they bought it.
For a guide to change it, there's also discussions either on XDA or the interweb...
Good luck... :good:

@5.1
thanks man! it's good to see people replacing this phone battery. There are so many posts everywhere with negative comments about it. "It's impossible, you better buy a new one" and things like that.

thesebastian said:
@5.1
thanks man! it's good to see people replacing this phone battery. There are so many posts everywhere with negative comments about it. "It's impossible, you better buy a new one" and things like that.
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Yeah... You just need the proper how-to, the proper tools, patience.
Take your time and be gentle with the thin parts. You may buy a new back cover and lens protector (not sure).
Anyway, those who did it certainly know better than i on this matter...
Good luck... :good:

5.1 said:
Yeah... You just need the proper how-to, the proper tools, patience.
Take your time and be gentle with the thin parts. You may buy a new back cover and lens protector (not sure).
Anyway, those who did it certainly know better than i on this matter...
Good luck... :good:
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The good part is that, you don't have to deal with "side locks" (I think) and the side buttons seem to not be affected by the process. (I've replaced a Galaxy Nexus display in the past, and the volume buttons never were the same. Also opened a Nexus 5 to change battery; and the low part of the back ended up a bit loose, probably because of the side locks. Here, at least, we have screws in the cover...the most difficult part is the removal of the glass and the bottom aluminium, but at least there are no side locks, just glue....
(I'm planning to use a hair dryers, and then just get the other tools).
Anyway...first I'm gonna try it with the current battery for a week. but seems to have a bad battery (maybe 20% worse than a regular 5X). I understand that a 6P has more life than the 5X, so that's what I'm aiming after a replacement...
I've been using an iPhone 5S for a week....amazing compass (compared to all the nexus I had), but the rest..... I don't like it (specially the screen size). If I have to open a LINK in Chrome, login into airport wifi, multitask or basically write a big paragraph....i want to kill myself.
So I'm in a hurry right now...

@5.1
At the end I've replaced my battery (used a "Cameron Sino X-Longer" one as replacement, it's more expensive than the others, but seems to worth the price).
- No more shutdowns before reaching 1% battery left.
- More than 100% increase in battery life. Now I'm having 4-4:30 hours+ SoT and all day standby. With everything enabled, trusted voice, trusted places, etc. (except NFC and bluetooth).

thesebastian said:
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At the end I've replaced my battery (used a "Cameron Sino X-Longer" one as replacement, it's more expensive than the others, but seems to worth the price).
- No more shutdowns before reaching 1% battery left.
- More than 100% increase in battery life. Now I'm having 4-4:30 hours+ SoT and all day standby. With everything enabled, trusted voice, trusted places, etc. (except NFC and bluetooth).
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Nice... This is the average SOT you get when the phone is brand new. I use my devices mostly on WiFi without GPS. Also trusted voice/places disabled. So I usually got between 5h30 and 6h30 with average usage (web, YouTube, SMS/MMS, XDA Labs)
I've switched to another model now. But the N6P is a great device nonetheless. Enjoy your new phone..! :good:
Cheers...

thesebastian said:
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At the end I've replaced my battery (used a "Cameron Sino X-Longer" one as replacement, it's more expensive than the others, but seems to worth the price).
- No more shutdowns before reaching 1% battery left.
- More than 100% increase in battery life. Now I'm having 4-4:30 hours+ SoT and all day standby. With everything enabled, trusted voice, trusted places, etc. (except NFC and bluetooth).
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hey im looking for a replacement battery myself, could you tell me where you got the cameron sino from? Ive heard great things about it and would definitely like to order it!

rahulzainali said:
hey im looking for a replacement battery myself, could you tell me where you got the cameron sino from? Ive heard great things about it and would definitely like to order it!
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http://m.ebay.es/itm/332085932714?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&_mwBanner=1
Sent from my Nexus 6P

Got one the Cameron sino for the Huawei 6p on eBay for 25.00. working like a champ.

Poor battery no matter which rom

I've been using several different 7.1.2 roms and battery life has been atrocious. I use wingoku 4.1.
I pair my smart watch to it but even when I use wifi (no bt) its bad, draining quickly, last checked about 22% per hr. Even with screen off listening to podcasts it still will drop a lot more than it used to.
I really don't have much in terms of stats. Honestly I don't obsess much about it normally but now its noticable.
Aside from suggesting another rom & kernel, would I benefit from formatting data and starting over?

KLit75 said:
I've been using several different 7.1.2 roms and battery life has been atrocious. I use wingoku 4.1.
I pair my smart watch to it but even when I use wifi (no bt) its bad, draining quickly, last checked about 22% per hr. Even with screen off listening to podcasts it still will drop a lot more than it used to.
I really don't have much in terms of stats. Honestly I don't obsess much about it normally but now its noticable.
Aside from suggesting another rom & kernel, would I benefit from formatting data and starting over?
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Install accubattery and run it though a few charge cycles, it will be able to tell you the life left in your battery, it's possible that you have the same issue many of us have had with a degradation of the battery.

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Install accubattery and run it though a few charge cycles, it will be able to tell you the life left in your battery, it's possible that you have the same issue many of us have had with a degradation of the battery.
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Yea. Thats my biggest fear. Ive replaced small parts before but my eyesight isn't as good as it used to be so Im afraid I might mess it up. Plus I'll need to buy a heat gun.
I'll be more than a little pissed if the battery's shot. This phone is barely 14 months old. Either give us a decent battery or make it replaceable.
Thanks for the info btw. I just installed the app.

Update--Im switching things up a bit. Recently I made some changes and this time I flashed a new rom without some of those changes.
1. I had switched from Action 3 to Nova
*HIGHLY doubt nova is eating up my battery so Im still using it BUT I did remove a widget that has weather. Since I keep phone on device only location, I think theres a chance its always trying to find my locale and consuming battery.
2. I didn't add a gov profile yet.
3. This is the first time in about 4 or 5 rom flashes I didnt flash CTT Mod.
* Again I doubt this is causing battery issues but Im gonna hold off flashing it. No throttling thus far.
As suggested Ill be monitoring with accubattery for a few cycles. But been using my phone about 90 mins this morning (at least 90% of that time actively using with screen on) and I've lost 13%--a huge improvement from yesterday.

KLit75 said:
Aside from suggesting another rom & kernel, would I benefit from formatting data and starting over?
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Accubattery for the proof. New battery for the fix. You could always buy online and have it installed locally. Read up on where to score a good replacement battery, rather than another dud.
Edit: Read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72814690&postcount=6

v12xke said:
Accubattery for the proof. New battery for the fix. You could always buy online and have it installed locally. Read up on where to score a good replacement battery, rather than another dud.
Edit: Read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72814690&postcount=6
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Thanks. But for now it looks like my battery is ok. I did a follow-up post above. And to follow-up on that, Im still getting good battery life.

Franco Kernel

KLit75 said:
Thanks. But for now it looks like my battery is ok. I did a follow-up post above. And to follow-up on that, Im still getting good battery life.
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Okay, sounds good. What does Accubattery report your battery health as? (health tab)

v12xke said:
Okay, sounds good. What does Accubattery report your battery health as? (health tab)
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Its not really giving me much info yet. Because of my schedule throughout the day Ive charged periodically so I have enough juice in case I need it. Do I need to let it run lower to get an accurate reading?

KLit75 said:
Its not really giving me much info yet. Because of my schedule throughout the day Ive charged periodically so I have enough juice in case I need it. Do I need to let it run lower to get an accurate reading?
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Best to let it run below 20% at least and then fully charge until the APP tells you the battery is full- not your phone. Don't unplug until Accubattery says it is full. What you will observe is that the phone will continue to charge for 45 minutes to an hour past when the phone itself is reporting 100%. You will find the estimated capacity under the Health tab. Once or twice below 20% is enough to get a close approximation. After that it will move a couple percent max. You will know soon enough.

v12xke said:
Best to let it run below 20% at least and then fully charge until the APP tells you the battery is full- not your phone. Don't unplug until Accubattery says it is full. What you will observe is that the phone will continue to charge for 45 minutes to an hour past when the phone itself is reporting 100%. You will find the estimated capacity under the Health tab. Once or twice below 20% is enough to get a close approximation. After that it will move a couple percent max. You will know soon enough.
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Well it turns out my battery is in need of replacing.
I let it run down like you said. I was going to go further down but once it hit 20% my phone turned off. I plugged it in, opened accubattery and it said 46% under health.
But I just checked again after charging to 100% and it now says 63% (2182 mAh total capacity).
I checked my imei on the Huawei site and my phone is 3 days out of warranty. Im hoping to get them to fix it.

KLit75 said:
Well it turns out my battery is in need of replacing. I let it run down like you said. I was going to go further down but once it hit 20% my phone turned off. I plugged it in, opened accubattery and it said 46% under health. But I just checked again after charging to 100% and it now says 63% (2182 mAh total capacity). I checked my imei on the Huawei site and my phone is 3 days out of warranty. Im hoping to get them to fix it.
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Well sorry to hear that. Good luck to you on the RMA route. If not, the Cameron Sino brand replacement is a bit more expensive but includes a working battery temperature sensor. It will make your phone like new. Note in the thread I referenced above, some parts may get scratched/cracked depending on the skill of the repair person. They aren't expensive so it you are intending to keep the 6P for a while longer, it may be worth it to buy those just in case.

v12xke said:
Well sorry to hear that. Good luck to you on the RMA route. If not, the Cameron Sino brand replacement is a bit more expensive but includes a working battery temperature sensor. It will make your phone like new. Note in the thread I referenced above, some parts may get scratched/cracked depending on the skill of the repair person. They aren't expensive so it you are intending to keep the 6P for a while longer, it may be worth it to buy those just in case.
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Thanks for the support! I checked that thread and didn't see specific parts (inexpensive ones you referenced) If they're listed Ill look again. It doesn't seem too daunting. I was able to replace the screen on my son's WiU controller. Those were very tiny parts and YES--I did snap off a clip, however I was able to fudge it and it's still working about a year later.
Far as RMA, does anyone know if they replace it with the same crappy stock battery? From my perspective this seems like a clear case where a recall is in order.
But if its the same battery, Im just setting myself up for the same problems 8 to 12 months from now. Even if I buy a new phone Id still want to sell this one and thats not as easy with a crap battery. Plus theyd have my phone for x days so Id need to find a temp phone in the meantime.
Don't mean to jabber on...this sucks.
Oh yeah...cuz it was after hours I sent an email to support last night. Do you think Ill get a response? Or should I just call when I have time to be on hold?

Spoke to a clone at Huawei then asked to speak to the clone's supervisor (wasn't sure if clones had supervisors--they do. But the programming is identical.) Long frustrating phone call and they aren't going to replace my battery because its out of warranty...by 4 f#@&ing days!
I told them they lost a customer for life and I was being 100% sincere. How could I ever buy from people who thinks it ok to sell defective crap, know about it, then do nothing to make things right?
I'm gonna replace the battery on my own. Whether things go good or terrible, one thing is certain--itll be the last time I ever replace anything on any product made by Huawei.