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48 Hours of Battery Life on Epic 4G

I got 48 hours of battery life this past weekend (2 full days) after reworking my phone on Friday. I actually got 24 hours of battery life one day, when I first flashed the phone a couple of weeks ago, with Light / Moderate use. I am running the Bonsai4All ROM. I had been running it previously but had flashed back to stock due to an issue with Wifi, that I thought might be related to this ROM. After further research I found the Wifi issue was NOT related so I decided, since I liked Bonzai so well, to re-flash and keep it.
Here's what I did:
* From Odin I flashed to the stock ROM.
* I flashed to DK28 via Odin.
* I loaded Bonzai4All_Leafless.zip, ext4-format_njournal.zip and kernel-EXT4-RFS-Bonzai.zip files to my sdcard.
* I rooted my phone using the OneClickRootCWM3.zip.
* Restarted my phone in Recovery Mode to update CWM to ext4.
* Flashed Bonzai ROM and started phone.
* Installed my apps.
* Restarted my phone in Recovery Mode and ran Reboot Recovery to get to CW 2.5
* Flashed ext4-format.
* Flashed Bonzai4All.
* Flashed Kernel-EXT4
* Restarted phone.
At this point I had a clean install and all apps re-installed via Google. Then I turned the phone off and fully charged my battery. I Bump-charged the battery 6 times (6X) to get a full charge (something I found in another post). Before I turned the phone on I booted into Recovery and Wiped the Battery Stats. I restarted the phone and followed these steps (also something I had found in another post in the forums regarding battery life).
* Turned off bluetooth when not in use.
* Turned off GPS when I didn't need it.
* Turned screen brightness to automatic
* Turned off 4G receiver since I was out of 4G coverage area this weekend.
* Turned off synchronization. Only enabled it throughout the day to sync.
* Left Wifi on as much as possible since I was in an area with wifi all the time.
* Toggled Airplane mode after I rebooted the phone. (the post stated it was a "stupid bug")
* Killed the OmaDrmConfigService process via Settings > Applications > Running Services.
The phone was used lightly over the weekend. I used Bluetooth when making calls and only syncing about four times a day. I also did a few text messages. I fully charged my phone yesterday and am using it more to see what the battery life is with Moderate use. At this point it has been unplugged for 20 hours and still has 64 percent charge.
I took pictures via Shoot Me every 12 hours. These pictures are real, they have not been tampered with. Don't know what anyone elses results have been but here are mine.

Ehh..With light to moderate use thats not too impressive; btw..the "bump" charging isn't good for your battery. Theres a reason why it doesn't fully charge; because it's not good for the health of the battery.
Sorry to burst your bubble man ^-^ I've gotten 36hrs on moderate/heavy usage.

OP, Did you change your Wi-Fi advanced settings to "never sleep"?

XtaC318 said:
Ehh..With light to moderate use thats not too impressive; btw..the "bump" charging isn't good for your battery. Theres a reason why it doesn't fully charge; because it's not good for the health of the battery.
Sorry to burst your bubble man ^-^ I've gotten 36hrs on moderate/heavy usage.
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That's why I posted this...wanted to know what others were getting from the battery. I'm aware of the bump charge issue and this is a one-time thing for me...don't have money to replace it...hehe.
What are you doing to get 36 hrs?
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rocket321 said:
OP, Did you change your Wi-Fi advanced settings to "never sleep"?
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Yes, my wifi is set to "never sleep"
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gaaspul said:
That's why I posted this...wanted to know what others were getting from the battery. I'm aware of the bump charge issue and this is a one-time thing for me...don't have money to replace it...hehe.
What are you doing to get 36 hrs?
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Everyone should just get an extended battery and not worry about battery life anymore. I run everything at their optimal settings and the phone lasts forever anyway. Brightness at max all the time, no juicedefender or any of that nonsense. Its awesome. You can leave GPS on contantly. Who cares, you got plenty of battery. And if you absolutely need the battery to last you can just tone down some things and make it last for days. Longest I have gone is:
but I hate running my phone like that.

muyoso said:
Everyone should just get an extended battery and not worry about battery life.
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Where did you get yours? I've been looking online but don't want to ge burned.
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gaaspul said:
Where did you get yours? I've been looking online but don't want to ge burned.
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I bought the 3500mah one from ebay. They go for like 12 dollars now. They are not actually 3500mah, but they certainly give a giant boost over stock. They are probably around 2600-3000mah realistically. I have a review in the accessories section. The name brand batteries might be better, but no one has done a objective test comparing them yet and for the price its hard to beat the generic ones from China. People are very satisfied with the Yoobao 2800 mah batteries as well, and those go for around 20ish dollars shipped on ebay. Both are the same thickness and add a little bulk to the phone but you get used to it almost immediately.

gaaspul said:
Where did you get yours? I've been looking online but don't want to ge burned.
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google this: Seidio Innocell. they have a 3300 mAH battery and i believe they might have a 3500 mAH one as well. so far ive seen nothing but the best reviews for this brand on newegg, amazon, as well as anroid central. theyre a bit pricey, but im not going to let that stop me from using my phone fully without fear of being too far from an outlet

Save your money and buy the generics. All battery manufacturers blatantly lie about their mah ratings, Seidio included. The only mah ratings that are genuine are from OEM batteries. That Seidio 3300 mah will really be around 2700mah. The criminals even have the balls to charge 6 dollars extra for the cheapest shipping after making you pay $75 for the battery. Buy the 12 dollar generic 3500mah on ebay which at a minimum will get you 2400mah real life or go for the 2800mah Yoobao which will probably get you around the same for $20ish. The generics blatantly lie on their ratings while manufacturers like Seidio and Mugen cheat on their ratings. Either way, you don't get the battery you paid for and at least with the generics you pay 7 times less.
www.batteryboss.org

I have no idea how long my battery lasts and frankly don't care as I have 4 of them. Just for the record the OP's method of installing Bonsai! is a waste of time IMHO.

Wow guys...
OP I just wanted to say thanks for posting the steps you took.. Not everyone is going to agree on the best way to do things. but it is good to see all the different options and opinions..

muyoso said:
Everyone should just get an extended battery and not worry about battery life anymore. I run everything at their optimal settings and the phone lasts forever anyway. Brightness at max all the time, no juicedefender or any of that nonsense. Its awesome. You can leave GPS on contantly. Who cares, you got plenty of battery. And if you absolutely need the battery to last you can just tone down some things and make it last for days. Longest I have gone is:
but I hate running my phone like that.
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I have had similar luck... But I usually just run the phone all out anyway... Listening to pandora now just because I'm sick of my normal collection... I have another battery I can throw in when this one dies today... And rest assured it will
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snowmanwithahat said:
I have had similar luck... But I usually just run the phone all out anyway... Listening to pandora now just because I'm sick of my normal collection... I have another battery I can throw in when this one dies today... And rest assured it will
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Same. I can't wait until the 2.2 source is leaked. Gonna have my phone overclocked and set for Performance in SetCPU, screen brightness on high, etc, while still having enough battery for a day.

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Just for the record the OP's method of installing Bonsai! is a waste of time IMHO.
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Top Nurse: This was done before they released the new version.
muyoso: I ordered a two-pack generic 3500mAh with charger last night ($26). Again, I had been looking at them but wanted to hear from someone who had used them. In regards to your last reply, I also had my phone overclocked and set for Performance in SetCPU, screen brightness on high, etc, the first time I flashed Bonzai...got 6 and a half hours of battery life and only made ONE phone call...LOL! I've had almost 30 hours of battery life with moderate / heavy use after I posted the original thread, so I've been pretty happy. I'm looking forward to the extended battery.
Thanks to all for the input.

muyoso said:
Save your money and buy the generics. All battery manufacturers blatantly lie about their mah ratings, Seidio included. The only mah ratings that are genuine are from OEM batteries. That Seidio 3300 mah will really be around 2700mah. The criminals even have the balls to charge 6 dollars extra for the cheapest shipping after making you pay $75 for the battery. Buy the 12 dollar generic 3500mah on ebay which at a minimum will get you 2400mah real life or go for the 2800mah Yoobao which will probably get you around the same for $20ish. The generics blatantly lie on their ratings while manufacturers like Seidio and Mugen cheat on their ratings. Either way, you don't get the battery you paid for and at least with the generics you pay 7 times less.
www.batteryboss.org
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I didn't know that to be honest. I was given the impression that a lot of the generic brands seem to have a shorter life even with comparable mAH ratings. I also read amazing reviews for this specific brand even on here. I'm not a fan-boy or anything, but I've been trying to find a decent extended battery for my epic as well. However, I cant go out and spend my hard earned moneys without doing some research and so far ive read that this is one of the top brands. But now after reading your post im not so sure about what to do :/

Skrewup5 said:
I didn't know that to be honest. I was given the impression that a lot of the generic brands seem to have a shorter life even with comparable mAH ratings. I also read amazing reviews for this specific brand even on here. I'm not a fan-boy or anything, but I've been trying to find a decent extended battery for my epic as well. However, I cant go out and spend my hard earned moneys without doing some research and so far ive read that this is one of the top brands. But now after reading your post im not so sure about what to do :/
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The reasons to buy the Seidio is that you know you are going to get a perfectly functioning battery and that the battery might last longer than generics.
The reason to buy generics are that they are cheap as hell, but you may get a dud apparently, according to a couple people in my accessories thread, and might have to exchange it with the seller.
Either way, no battery other than an OEM battery will be at the rated capacity. I dont know how they are able to claim mah ratings that their batteries simply cannot reach. I mean, I know how the generics can do it, they are based in China and they can claim anything they want without retribution.
I recommend saving your money and getting a generic or even a Yoobao branded battery, because even if it does lose the ability to hold capacity 50% sooner than the Seidio would, you can just buy another 5 and still have paid less money than the name brand one.

I got 38 hours earlier with 3 hours and 42 minutes before i decided to plug it in at 9 percent
I'm on stock dk28
I don't have 3g on because in my house I'm by wifi, outside I'm blanketed in 4g and I noticed that since I took 3g off, my cell standby doesn't even show up in the battery percentage usage so I'm guessing that added to my battery life lol
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gaaspul said:
* Turned screen brightness to automatic
* Turned off 4G receiver since I was out of 4G coverage area this weekend.
* Turned off synchronization. Only enabled it throughout the day to sync.
* Left Wifi on as much as possible since I was in an area with wifi all the time.
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These 4 are probably the biggest drivers. I've gotten nearly 36 hours out of the phone before with light use.
The constantly waking to sync is a large drain in Android.
Also, I notice the WiFi radio in this phone practically sips power. The 3G radio, on the other hand, tanks the phone like no other, moreso than other phones (and all the reviews seem to confirm this by the talk time comparisons).
That and using the display in auto brightness. The display sucks down quite a bit, despite Samsung's claims to its power efficiency.

jnadke said:
These 4 are probably the biggest drivers. I've gotten nearly 36 hours out of the phone before with light use.
The constantly waking to sync is a large drain in Android.
Also, I notice the WiFi radio in this phone practically sips power. The 3G radio, on the other hand, tanks the phone like no other, moreso than other phones (and all the reviews seem to confirm this by the talk time comparisons).
That and using the display in auto brightness. The display sucks down quite a bit, despite Samsung's claims to its power efficiency.
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See my post above
I got those results with the brightness set to manual (usually I have it at 50-70ish%, putting it up to 100 when watching videos and viewing pics) and the auto sync on
I think it has to do with certain kernals and stuff? Idk but I don't think its worth gimping th features that make it a "smartphone"...
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Secondary battery

Has anyone tried buying a non official battery for their MS2 and care to comment or recommend any? Im going on holiday to france and i know my phone wont last a whole day without charging, so I was thinking of buying a second battery.

I read in another forum that using a non-Motorola battery displays some kind of warning. I'd go with an original battery.

jambo89liam said:
Has anyone tried buying a non official battery for their MS2 and care to comment or recommend any? Im going on holiday to france and i know my phone wont last a whole day without charging, so I was thinking of buying a second battery.
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using a non-original battery could have detrimental effects on your phone. there was a discussion on this on the forum of another phone. using a non-original battery could lead to leaks and other problems which would eventually lead to the warranty of your phone being voided.
stick with original motorola products. yes the battery might be very underpowered, but its the safest bet to ensure the longevity of ur phone

With a non original battery, the battery indicator of your phone shows a interrogation symbol. Also, it does not charge with the phone charger.
Sorry my analphabet english xD
@Motorola Milestone 2

bp7x 2300mAh battery

I 'm using a non-original battery . The MOMAX and everything's good ,it feels just like the original one except for battery tempperature sensor. the temp is always 26 in celsius

I personally have used seidio for my milestone and it works like a charm, its the extended 2800mah one it really performs like it should and not like how a lot of people claim thats its way less than stock! It does not always read it correctly but a quick reboot fixes that, like 50% after reboot would usually be about 70-80%. They way i used to use my phone (light to moderate level) would last about 2-3 days but after the extended I got twice that and some more. Just make sure you get stuff from the original manufactures either way and don't go for deals at amazon or whatnot as those guys might be selling either defected or not proprely stored stuff. Batteries are critical components don't go cheap on them! And no, my phone has not been messed up or had any leaks or anything and I have this for about 3-4 months now. The original battery degraded in about 6months if you have to compare.

That sounds promising, does the battery need to be charged with an external charger? And does the milestone complain that you are not using the official bettery
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metalron said:
I personally have used seidio for my milestone and it works like a charm, its the extended 2800mah one it really performs like it should and not like how a lot of people claim thats its way less than stock! It does not always read it correctly but a quick reboot fixes that, like 50% after reboot would usually be about 70-80%. They way i used to use my phone (light to moderate level) would last about 2-3 days but after the extended I got twice that and some more. Just make sure you get stuff from the original manufactures either way and don't go for deals at amazon or whatnot as those guys might be selling either defected or not proprely stored stuff. Batteries are critical components don't go cheap on them! And no, my phone has not been messed up or had any leaks or anything and I have this for about 3-4 months now. The original battery degraded in about 6months if you have to compare.
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reebooting your phone to get the exact picture also works on the standard battery. my question is, does the back part which houses the battery heat up when used? does the phone get hot during charging? do you need a new battery cover for it? and besides the longer usability, have you noticed any other performance issues on the phone?

agent008my said:
reebooting your phone to get the exact picture also works on the standard battery. my question is, does the back part which houses the battery heat up when used? does the phone get hot during charging? do you need a new battery cover for it? and besides the longer usability, have you noticed any other performance issues on the phone?
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Actually the rebooting to get the exact picture is not the same here, a jump to 20-30% on a stock battery? I don't think so. No I never encountered any odd behavior with the other battery. No getting extra hot during charge or use, get the typical little bit of heat while using 3G and browsing like mad but that would happen on the stock battery too. Battery cover for a 2800? of course, that stuff is huge! its protrudes like mad! a quick heads up though, the extended battery for the milestone 1 and 2 can use the same extended batteries. Don't know about the droid x though. Anyways, no performance issues, no heat while charging. The back covers supplied by these after market guys are not the best quality though so if you are someone who loves dropping phones and what not would recommed getting a spare back cover from the guys you get the batts from.
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That sounds promising, does the battery need to be charged with an external charger? And does the milestone complain that you are not using the official bettery
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No, I use my original charger and no complains or warnings by the phone. Not on the milestone 1 at least. In fact some times i use my ipod's adapter so no big issue. And it charges at the same pace as the stock, additional 1 hour or whatever. restart the phone to getting a proper reading as it shows 100% but upon restart its 70-80% since only the stock level is charged. I hear this app called battery left does great for calibration.

ALSO a thing to note, I only know of Seidio and Mugen to be relialbe after market battery guys hence their hefty pricing at times. The others claiming to have bigger batteries have cheated people with stickers and what not and usually end up underperforming and degrading considerably faster than burning paper! I remember 1USD batteries for nokias back in the day good for a quick one time run i suppose but these 1USD guys are now selling them with a better branding for like 20-40 USD.
Anyways Sedio and Mugen have facebook profiles and keep people posted on the latest on devices usually there, although its kind of sad since seidio have not followed through promised products at times.

metalron said:
Actually the rebooting to get the exact picture is not the same here, a jump to 20-30% on a stock battery? I don't think so. No I never encountered any odd behavior with the other battery. No getting extra hot during charge or use, get the typical little bit of heat while using 3G and browsing like mad but that would happen on the stock battery too. Battery cover for a 2800? of course, that stuff is huge! its protrudes like mad! a quick heads up though, the extended battery for the milestone 1 and 2 can use the same extended batteries. Don't know about the droid x though. Anyways, no performance issues, no heat while charging. The back covers supplied by these after market guys are not the best quality though so if you are someone who loves dropping phones and what not would recommed getting a spare back cover from the guys you get the batts from.
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thanks for the info mate. ill do a lil more research and probably check it out myself.

Thanks for the info i have bought a Seidio Innocell Extended Life for Motorola milestone 2 from mobilefun £30.49 its the 1500mah version same size as original battery so no extra cover is required.
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jambo89liam said:
Thanks for the info i have bought a Seidio Innocell Extended Life for Motorola milestone 2 from mobilefun £30.49 its the 1500mah version same size as original battery so no extra cover is required.
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Cool but as I suggested try and get them off the manufactures themselves as I have noticed some people complaining when purchased via 3rd party retailers.
Also another bud of mine had picked up one for the Nexus one, that phones back cover is a full one unlike the moto's and he too can vouch for the products positive performance. Either ways also check out some reviews from amazon.com for peace of mind.

http://yfrog.com/gz1yj2j
http://yfrog.com/h8n307j
Got my battery today looks official, I will charge it over night and test it tomorrow will let you know if it goes well.
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cmxyz said:
I 'm using a non-original battery . The MOMAX and everything's good ,it feels just like the original one except for battery tempperature sensor. the temp is always 26 in celsius
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can yo still charge it though because i bought the aninda battery and i could only charge it with an external battery charger

jambo89liam said:
http://yfrog.com/gz1yj2j
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Got my battery today looks official, I will charge it over night and test it tomorrow will let you know if it goes well.
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is the battery meter being shown or are you getting an error message because i would like to buy one

No complaints from the phone about it being the incorrect battery the battery has been charged within/by the phone no external charger required. I got the 1500mah version from mobilefun I doubt it will give much more performance but will see.
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After my first day of use I got around 11 hours of use before reaching 5%. Here are the usage statistics at 15%
https://picasaweb.google.com/105351366297036719015/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCJna6ZH6hLKxzQE
Wifi was on most of the time, I was using my phone for the usual things. Occasionally checking socialfeeds, engadget, xda every hour or so and internet browsing I played 10 minutes of angry bids. Updated some apps and downloaded a few new ones.
Overall not a significant increase in battery life maybe an hour or so more from what I am used to.
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Is your 6p affected by the early shutdown issue?

Hey all,
I'd like to get a better view on how much 6p's are affected by this issue. I really have no clue what % we're talking about. So.. Is your 6p affected by the early shutdown issue? If not, could you tell us when you've bought your phone and, if you have accubattery installed, the capacity (health) of your battery?
Thanks in advance!

Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.

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Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.
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Yeah this is really bad. Fortunately, I've got a new battery in it thanks to warranty. But now I'm really afraid to use the phone. I'm waiting on a response from Google on all this before using my phone again. I've used it after repair for a couple of days to see if the problem was fixed: it was.
Can't wait for the oneplus 5 to be released.

swa100 said:
Yeah this is really bad. Fortunately, I've got a new battery in it thanks to warranty. But now I'm really afraid to use the phone. I'm waiting on a response from Google on all this before using my phone again. I've used it after repair for a couple of days to see if the problem was fixed: it was.
Can't wait for the oneplus 5 to be released.
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It infuriates me because I love the phone and don't want to buy a new one.... But I can't have something that is going to die on me. I'm pretty pissed off with the state of Google hardware in general right now. Both the 5x and 6P are bootlooping and dying for no discernible reason, the Pixel and 6P have battery issues, although the Pixel, so far at least, doesn't seem to have them nearly as widespread. I feel like my phone is a ticking time bomb and that's really, really not cool.
Plus the supply issues with the Pixel all but rule that out as a replacement anyway.
I've owned three of the last four generations of Nexus phones, and while I was elated with the 6P when I got it, that glow has faded significantly. .

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It infuriates me because I love the phone and don't want to buy a new one.... But I can't have something that is going to die on me. I'm pretty pissed off with the state of Google hardware in general right now. Both the 5x and 6P are bootlooping and dying for no discernible reason, the Pixel and 6P have battery issues, although the Pixel, so far at least, doesn't seem to have them nearly as widespread. I feel like my phone is a ticking time bomb and that's really, really not cool.
Plus the supply issues with the Pixel all but rule that out as a replacement anyway.
I've owned three of the last four generations of Nexus phones, and while I was elated with the 6P when I got it, that glow has faded significantly. .
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Yeah that ticking timebomb feeling is really annoying. I don't even dare to use the phone now it actually works, because I'm afraid that I'll f*ck up my new battery. I'm trying to wait for an official response from Google, but it's hard. I really want to know if some software f*ckup is causing these batteries to degrade faster.

I had the issue also. I bought mine in October 2015. Accubattery was showing the battery at 60% and was shutting down at random once it got below 40%. Google sent me a refurbished phone even though it was out of warranty. So far this one hasn't shut down early and accubattery shows 95%.

I got my phone mid February (Best Buy) last year and do not have the problem. Accubattery shows my battery health at 93% (3220mah). But I also protect my battery as much as possible with when to charge and never let my phone stay plugged in when topped off either.

Never had early shutdown. Had my 6p for a few months. Accubattery shows 99%.
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murphyjasonc said:
I had the issue also. I bought mine in October 2015. Accubattery was showing the battery at 60% and was shutting down at random once it got below 40%. Google sent me a refurbished phone even though it was out of warranty. So far this one hasn't shut down early and accubattery shows 95%.
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Does the battery life itself seem to be better as well? Part of my problem is that with the screen on I'm looking at an obscene drain. According to accubattery my average drain with screen on is 1100ma/h. Hell it dropped two percent in the time it took me to type this.

Lulzmaster said:
Does the battery life itself seem to be better as well? Part of my problem is that with the screen on I'm looking at an obscene drain. According to accubattery my average drain with screen on is 1100ma/h. Hell it dropped two percent in the time it took me to type this.
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Yeah the battery life is a lot better. I was doing good to get 2 hours SOT on my old phone. Same setup on this one is getting 4 to 4.5 hours SOT. I don't recall what my average drain was before but now it's about 450 ma/h. Here is a screenshot.

murphyjasonc said:
Yeah the battery life is a lot better. I was doing good to get 2 hours SOT on my old phone. Same setup on this one is getting 4 to 4.5 hours SOT. I don't recall what my average drain was before but now it's about 450 ma/h. Here is a screenshot.
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I may have to give that a shot then. Buying a new one really isn't in the budget right now. Did you flash back to stock or relock the bootloader before you sent it in?

Never had early shutdown, and have had my 6P since launch.... Mostly custom AOSP roms....

Lulzmaster said:
I may have to give that a shot then. Buying a new one really isn't in the budget right now. Did you flash back to stock or relock the bootloader before you sent it in?
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I'm not sure it was necessary but I flashed back to stock and relocked bootloader. I didn't want to take any chances especially since they were replacing it out of warranty. Worst case I could have used Nexus protect either way. They tried to get me to do that when I called. I refused and once I mentioned the Reddit thread they agreed to replace. Saved me the $79.00 deductible.

Nope
:good::good:We have two in our family and neither one is affected. One was purchased Late 2015 and another early 2016. Both show over 95% capacity in Accubattery (mine is 97%) and I can run the battery down to 1%. Both are stock 7.1.1 one is unlocked and rooted, and the other has never been unlocked. Although I could not vote for each phone, it will be interesting to check poll results a few months down the road.

swa100 said:
Yeah that ticking timebomb feeling is really annoying. I don't even dare to use the phone now it actually works, because I'm afraid that I'll f*ck up my new battery. I'm trying to wait for an official response from Google, but it's hard. I really want to know if some software f*ckup is causing these batteries to degrade faster.
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Google's official position is that the early shutdown problem and boot loop of death are both hardware issues. People are experiencing both problems on stock Marshmallow and Nougat as well as on custom ROMs.

murphyjasonc said:
I'm not sure it was necessary but I flashed back to stock and relocked bootloader. I didn't want to take any chances especially since they were replacing it out of warranty. Worst case I could have used Nexus protect either way. They tried to get me to do that when I called. I refused and once I mentioned the Reddit thread they agreed to replace. Saved me the $79.00 deductible.
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Guess I'm making a call tomorrow then. Hope this straightens things up. Thanks!

Just as an update, I got my RMA last week and it has behaved flawlessly since. Accubattery is actually reporting 101% battery health, and It's taking a little getting used to having a phone that the battery doesn't die in two hours.

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Lulzmaster said:
Sure am, and it's died at as high as 45% and as low as 15%. Accubattery pegs the health at about 60% and I've only had the phone about 15 months. Wanted this to be the first one I kept for two years.... Not looking likely with my 2 hours of SOT.
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Same story.. getting a new battery install totally solves this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fCDOfljoQY
It's annoying not to be able to easily swap in a new battery but manufacturers could prefer people feel desperate for a yearly upgrade: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/nexus-6p-battery-replacement-options-t3628932

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Same story.. getting a new battery install totally solves this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fCDOfljoQY
It's annoying not to be able to easily swap in a new battery but manufacturers could prefer people feel desperate for a yearly upgrade: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/nexus-6p-battery-replacement-options-t3628932
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I haven't had an issue since I got my RMAd device, so yeah. I even have all the same apps installed and everything and I'm still getting ten hours of mixed usage. Performance is getting a little pokey but the phone is coming up two years old soooooooooooo I'm not surprised.
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Poor battery no matter which rom

I've been using several different 7.1.2 roms and battery life has been atrocious. I use wingoku 4.1.
I pair my smart watch to it but even when I use wifi (no bt) its bad, draining quickly, last checked about 22% per hr. Even with screen off listening to podcasts it still will drop a lot more than it used to.
I really don't have much in terms of stats. Honestly I don't obsess much about it normally but now its noticable.
Aside from suggesting another rom & kernel, would I benefit from formatting data and starting over?

KLit75 said:
I've been using several different 7.1.2 roms and battery life has been atrocious. I use wingoku 4.1.
I pair my smart watch to it but even when I use wifi (no bt) its bad, draining quickly, last checked about 22% per hr. Even with screen off listening to podcasts it still will drop a lot more than it used to.
I really don't have much in terms of stats. Honestly I don't obsess much about it normally but now its noticable.
Aside from suggesting another rom & kernel, would I benefit from formatting data and starting over?
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Install accubattery and run it though a few charge cycles, it will be able to tell you the life left in your battery, it's possible that you have the same issue many of us have had with a degradation of the battery.

Triscuit said:
Install accubattery and run it though a few charge cycles, it will be able to tell you the life left in your battery, it's possible that you have the same issue many of us have had with a degradation of the battery.
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Yea. Thats my biggest fear. Ive replaced small parts before but my eyesight isn't as good as it used to be so Im afraid I might mess it up. Plus I'll need to buy a heat gun.
I'll be more than a little pissed if the battery's shot. This phone is barely 14 months old. Either give us a decent battery or make it replaceable.
Thanks for the info btw. I just installed the app.

Update--Im switching things up a bit. Recently I made some changes and this time I flashed a new rom without some of those changes.
1. I had switched from Action 3 to Nova
*HIGHLY doubt nova is eating up my battery so Im still using it BUT I did remove a widget that has weather. Since I keep phone on device only location, I think theres a chance its always trying to find my locale and consuming battery.
2. I didn't add a gov profile yet.
3. This is the first time in about 4 or 5 rom flashes I didnt flash CTT Mod.
* Again I doubt this is causing battery issues but Im gonna hold off flashing it. No throttling thus far.
As suggested Ill be monitoring with accubattery for a few cycles. But been using my phone about 90 mins this morning (at least 90% of that time actively using with screen on) and I've lost 13%--a huge improvement from yesterday.

KLit75 said:
Aside from suggesting another rom & kernel, would I benefit from formatting data and starting over?
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Accubattery for the proof. New battery for the fix. You could always buy online and have it installed locally. Read up on where to score a good replacement battery, rather than another dud.
Edit: Read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72814690&postcount=6

v12xke said:
Accubattery for the proof. New battery for the fix. You could always buy online and have it installed locally. Read up on where to score a good replacement battery, rather than another dud.
Edit: Read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72814690&postcount=6
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Thanks. But for now it looks like my battery is ok. I did a follow-up post above. And to follow-up on that, Im still getting good battery life.

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KLit75 said:
Thanks. But for now it looks like my battery is ok. I did a follow-up post above. And to follow-up on that, Im still getting good battery life.
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Okay, sounds good. What does Accubattery report your battery health as? (health tab)

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Okay, sounds good. What does Accubattery report your battery health as? (health tab)
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Its not really giving me much info yet. Because of my schedule throughout the day Ive charged periodically so I have enough juice in case I need it. Do I need to let it run lower to get an accurate reading?

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Its not really giving me much info yet. Because of my schedule throughout the day Ive charged periodically so I have enough juice in case I need it. Do I need to let it run lower to get an accurate reading?
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Best to let it run below 20% at least and then fully charge until the APP tells you the battery is full- not your phone. Don't unplug until Accubattery says it is full. What you will observe is that the phone will continue to charge for 45 minutes to an hour past when the phone itself is reporting 100%. You will find the estimated capacity under the Health tab. Once or twice below 20% is enough to get a close approximation. After that it will move a couple percent max. You will know soon enough.

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Best to let it run below 20% at least and then fully charge until the APP tells you the battery is full- not your phone. Don't unplug until Accubattery says it is full. What you will observe is that the phone will continue to charge for 45 minutes to an hour past when the phone itself is reporting 100%. You will find the estimated capacity under the Health tab. Once or twice below 20% is enough to get a close approximation. After that it will move a couple percent max. You will know soon enough.
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Well it turns out my battery is in need of replacing.
I let it run down like you said. I was going to go further down but once it hit 20% my phone turned off. I plugged it in, opened accubattery and it said 46% under health.
But I just checked again after charging to 100% and it now says 63% (2182 mAh total capacity).
I checked my imei on the Huawei site and my phone is 3 days out of warranty. Im hoping to get them to fix it.

KLit75 said:
Well it turns out my battery is in need of replacing. I let it run down like you said. I was going to go further down but once it hit 20% my phone turned off. I plugged it in, opened accubattery and it said 46% under health. But I just checked again after charging to 100% and it now says 63% (2182 mAh total capacity). I checked my imei on the Huawei site and my phone is 3 days out of warranty. Im hoping to get them to fix it.
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Well sorry to hear that. Good luck to you on the RMA route. If not, the Cameron Sino brand replacement is a bit more expensive but includes a working battery temperature sensor. It will make your phone like new. Note in the thread I referenced above, some parts may get scratched/cracked depending on the skill of the repair person. They aren't expensive so it you are intending to keep the 6P for a while longer, it may be worth it to buy those just in case.

v12xke said:
Well sorry to hear that. Good luck to you on the RMA route. If not, the Cameron Sino brand replacement is a bit more expensive but includes a working battery temperature sensor. It will make your phone like new. Note in the thread I referenced above, some parts may get scratched/cracked depending on the skill of the repair person. They aren't expensive so it you are intending to keep the 6P for a while longer, it may be worth it to buy those just in case.
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Thanks for the support! I checked that thread and didn't see specific parts (inexpensive ones you referenced) If they're listed Ill look again. It doesn't seem too daunting. I was able to replace the screen on my son's WiU controller. Those were very tiny parts and YES--I did snap off a clip, however I was able to fudge it and it's still working about a year later.
Far as RMA, does anyone know if they replace it with the same crappy stock battery? From my perspective this seems like a clear case where a recall is in order.
But if its the same battery, Im just setting myself up for the same problems 8 to 12 months from now. Even if I buy a new phone Id still want to sell this one and thats not as easy with a crap battery. Plus theyd have my phone for x days so Id need to find a temp phone in the meantime.
Don't mean to jabber on...this sucks.
Oh yeah...cuz it was after hours I sent an email to support last night. Do you think Ill get a response? Or should I just call when I have time to be on hold?

Spoke to a clone at Huawei then asked to speak to the clone's supervisor (wasn't sure if clones had supervisors--they do. But the programming is identical.) Long frustrating phone call and they aren't going to replace my battery because its out of warranty...by 4 f#@&ing days!
I told them they lost a customer for life and I was being 100% sincere. How could I ever buy from people who thinks it ok to sell defective crap, know about it, then do nothing to make things right?
I'm gonna replace the battery on my own. Whether things go good or terrible, one thing is certain--itll be the last time I ever replace anything on any product made by Huawei.

battery.

it has been months now having to deal with this issue.
i really love my 6p but I've got tired of having to charge my phone every three hours. it shuts down when recording video when the battery below 50% or giving the CPU a hard task like searching a long excel sheet. i cant open Snapchat when below 50% fearing that it will shutdown and its not may or may not it will shutdown .
i don't think its a hardware failure because when it happens twrp boots up just fine but cant mount data and it shows the real percentage. while ROM shows 1% and shutdown. it happens with all ROMs even the stock ones.
I live in a country where there is no support from google or any hardware store ( they don't even know the name of the phone ).
this issue have put me in many awkward moments I've waited for a long time towards a solution maybe that's it. and it is time to move on ??.

Its a hardware fault, as in as much as your battery needs replacing. Well known issue where the battery degrades causing this issue.
You could install Accubattery and do a health check to conform this.

Replace Your Battery!
dark3bod said:
it has been months now having to deal with this issue......
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Have you been living in a cave? Are you a troll? Did you think a software update was coming to fix it? You need a replacement battery, or get another phone.

dark3bod said:
it has been months now having to deal with this issue.
i really love my 6p but I've got tired of having to charge my phone every three hours. it shuts down when recording video when the battery below 50% or giving the CPU a hard task like searching a long excel sheet. i cant open Snapchat when below 50% fearing that it will shutdown and its not may or may not it will shutdown .
i don't think its a hardware failure because when it happens twrp boots up just fine but cant mount data and it shows the real percentage. while ROM shows 1% and shutdown. it happens with all ROMs even the stock ones.
I live in a country where there is no support from google or any hardware store ( they don't even know the name of the phone ).
this issue have put me in many awkward moments I've waited for a long time towards a solution maybe that's it. and it is time to move on ??.
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I installed a new battery and used battery calibration from the play store. It's working like new again.

I just got my new 6p battery. I can confirm that I just get 1hr of screen on time and it will shutdown. I live in asia and There is no stock of the 6p's battery everywhere here even in Huawei stores and service centers. I got mine from an online site and have it shipped to me. It took a while but it was worth it. Its like new again (bought this device 2nd hand and already have the degraded battery).

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I just got my new 6p battery. I can confirm that I just get 1hr of screen on time and it will shutdown. I live in asia and There is no stock of the 6p's battery everywhere here even in Huawei stores and service centers. I got mine from an online site and have it shipped to me. It took a while but it was worth it. Its like new again (bought this device 2nd hand and already have the degraded battery).
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What batteries did you guys buy? I have battery issues. Phone dies but twrp shows another value. Sometimes drops by 2% instead of 1%

lil_ith said:
What batteries did you guys buy? I have battery issues. Phone dies but twrp shows another value. Sometimes drops by 2% instead of 1%
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There is no more original battery for our 6p almost everything that is being sold is a chinese knockoffs. But I got a Beltron Battery. I also like the cameron sino (good reviews) but the price is 2x the price of beltron if when i ship it to my country. But, So far no issues. 1hr 45mins SOT and i still have 70% (Fb, YT, Web browsing, instagram and etc). Today is my first day of using this battery. Fingers crossed.

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There is no more original battery for our 6p almost everything that is being sold is a chinese knockoffs. But I got a Beltron Battery. I also like the cameron sino (good reviews) but the price is 2x the price of beltron if when i ship it to my country. But, So far no issues. 1hr 45mins SOT and i still have 70% (Fb, YT, Web browsing, instagram and etc). Today is my first day of using this battery. Fingers crossed.
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I've never heard that one. But I've heard I've had to be careful with sino as most are fakes now. But I've also heard good ones about Cameron sino x longer? Or something.
Very much would appreciate your advice on this as I don't want to pay for a fake. As I plan to get a new charger, battery, screen protector and case for it. But with the battery as it is now. Wouldn't be worth it

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I've never heard that one. But I've heard I've had to be careful with sino as most are fakes now. But I've also heard good ones about Cameron sino x longer? Or something.
Very much would appreciate your advice on this as I don't want to pay for a fake. As I plan to get a new charger, battery, screen protector and case for it. But with the battery as it is now. Wouldn't be worth it
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I suggest Beltron like mine, most of the batteries doesnt have any temp sensor. It doesnt bother me that much. I suggest using a 1A charger. Slow charging but it doesnt stress the battery so much like the OEM charger. My wild guess is that the charger is the reason why the battery degrades so fast. Good luck with your 6p!

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I suggest Beltron like mine, most of the batteries doesnt have any temp sensor. It doesnt bother me that much. I suggest using a 1A charger. Slow charging but it doesnt stress the battery so much like the OEM charger. My wild guess is that the charger is the reason why the battery degrades so fast. Good luck with your 6p!
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Thankyou very much. I will keep looking/reading but I keep this in mind. Thankyou

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There is no more original battery for our 6p almost everything that is being sold is a chinese knockoffs. But I got a Beltron Battery. I also like the cameron sino (good reviews) but the price is 2x the price of beltron if when i ship it to my country. But, So far no issues. 1hr 45mins SOT and i still have 70% (Fb, YT, Web browsing, instagram and etc). Today is my first day of using this battery. Fingers crossed.
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Agree... but what does Accubattery say your battery capacity is? 1st day feel of the pants is feedback, but having data would be better. Run the app, and after a few full charges let us know how this battery compares to the one it replaced. You *may* have found a great replacement. Thanks.

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Agree... but what does Accubattery say your battery capacity is? 1st day feel of the pants is feedback, but having data would be better. Run the app, and after a few full charges let us know how this battery compares to the one it replaced. You *may* have found a great replacement. Thanks.
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Ill download the app again. I always forget using that app. Last night i charged it 30%-100% in just more or less 3hrs using 1A charger. i was asleep that time. Today I'm using the phone non stop. Off wifi and off cellular since i have a dedicated daily driver for my social life using this device just for entertainment. Today I've been reading manga using an app non stop @ 50% brightness. Here are the screen shots of my battery in settings. I think its good. Ill return with accubattery data later

Any links for recommended battery instructions?

dark3bod said:
it has been months now having to deal with this issue.
i really love my 6p but I've got tired of having to charge my phone every three hours. it shuts down when recording video when the battery below 50% or giving the CPU a hard task like searching a long excel sheet. i cant open Snapchat when below 50% fearing that it will shutdown and its not may or may not it will shutdown .
i don't think its a hardware failure because when it happens twrp boots up just fine but cant mount data and it shows the real percentage. while ROM shows 1% and shutdown. it happens with all ROMs even the stock ones.
I live in a country where there is no support from google or any hardware store ( they don't even know the name of the phone ).
this issue have put me in many awkward moments I've waited for a long time towards a solution maybe that's it. and it is time to move on .
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My wife had the same problems and got a Pixel.
I ordered a new battery for around $20, put it in and now it's like a new phone. I swapped out the Sim card from my Moto z and now it's my daily driver. By the end of my shift it's still at 80%

I bought a brand new Nexus 6P and have had it for a month now and I must say, coming from the LG G5, its a damn shame the 6P's battery doesn't live up to the potential some phone batteries do. I would recommend doing a health check for your battery once a month at least, it's what I do to keep an eye on things. There are some good apps for monitoring your usage and longevity quite accurately.
Nevertheless I still prefer my 6P to the G5 :silly:

If your want an OEM battery here is one https://goo.gl/jmYfn9 the seller runs out but seems to get more in. I bought this one and had five and a half hours screen on time when I plugged in at 8% battery left. Mine was shutting down as soon as it hit 20%

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I bought a brand new Nexus 6P and have had it for a month now and I must say, coming from the LG G5, its a damn shame the 6P's battery doesn't live up to the potential some phone batteries do. I would recommend doing a health check for your battery once a month at least, it's what I do to keep an eye on things. There are some good apps for monitoring your usage and longevity quite accurately.
Nevertheless I still prefer my 6P to the G5 :silly:
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I have to object to the that factor that the battery on the 6p doesn't live up to its potential, well I'm making a statement out out of that comment, I bought an replaced my own battery, even went as far as adding new thermal paste in the places required, I also have my device rooted an pretty much battery mod central on my device, I have had it for 5 days on deep doze settings an it's at 68%. I had insured my journey with complete overall satisfaction, I have added a 3600 an it came 2 days after I Ordered off Amazon, for 15$ free shipping, can't beat the fact is the way a device should run, no just a nexus 6p, I mean ll devices, if you can oot it when your phone is new, you can max your battery potential to the extreme, if you've had the device like me for 3+ years, every battery saving option I went through trial and error Makin that thing last for 3 hours if it was rooted with doze settings and lasted an hour max if not rooted. So I went the do it youself an learn something an it wasn't hard one bit. Charged It till full an turned it on an let it do its thing, I can't tell you how many of you need to change your battery out an buy a new phone. let's be clear an unrooted phone will never exceed battery life for the reasons of the hogwash they add o it an cause it to drain, if you eliminate the drag you'll get your full potential on battery life and only 15$ than forking out 500$ on a new device, work smarter not harder. Seeder, amplify, greenify, power nap, servicely, naptime, xposed, better battery stats, tasker, appcontext, powersving.apk,magisk doze mods, I recommend them all on magisk even if they are repoed, fix the prop for the present time if you know what your doing, Lspeed Is a great tool to have, I use elementalx an tweaked my settings for battery another great tool for battery conserving is [All+ROMs]+Galacticâ„¢+DeepSleep+MOD+[Super+Battery+Saver], find an flash it in recovery. For all devices.
If there are any questions on those apps or have any fed back let me know. Good luck.