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Universal suddenly shuts down; battery or other problem?

I recently acquired a HTC Universal for dirt cheap, and have found the first problem to explain the low price: Whenever I'm using a "power-hungry" application (TCPMP, Internet via Wi-Fi) it eventually just blacks out. Full shutdown without warning.
When trying to reactivate the unit, it reboots as if after a soft reset.
In fact, if I try to reactivate it too quickly, even the reboot fails.
None of the above happens when on external power.
This leads me to think that it's nothing worse than a battery that's lost its mojo, but since there is no warning about low battery, and when the reboot finishes successfully even SPB says the battery is somewhere around 70%, I want to run this by you guys.
What do you think? Just go get a new battery, or is there something else going on which will make buying a new battery just a waste of money?

I'd say it's the battery, 99% sure.
I'ts gotten old and its voltage breaks down under load. If you have proper equipment and a glimpse of an idea what you're doing you should drain about 300mA from the battery and measure its output voltage.
You'll most likely see it going below 3.0V quickly.

I'm afraid I don't have that equipment, but all I really needed to hear was that it's probably the battery.
Now I can stop thinking about it and just order a new batery.

Unexpected reboot - Apparently bettery issue
Hey Holybear, my device shows exactly same symptom, If possible let us know if bat replacement solved the issue>

Holy Bear said:
I recently acquired a HTC Universal for dirt cheap, and have found the first problem to explain the low price: Whenever I'm using a "power-hungry" application (TCPMP, Internet via Wi-Fi) it eventually just blacks out. Full shutdown without warning.
When trying to reactivate the unit, it reboots as if after a soft reset.
In fact, if I try to reactivate it too quickly, even the reboot fails.
None of the above happens when on external power.
This leads me to think that it's nothing worse than a battery that's lost its mojo, but since there is no warning about low battery, and when the reboot finishes successfully even SPB says the battery is somewhere around 70%, I want to run this by you guys.
What do you think? Just go get a new battery, or is there something else going on which will make buying a new battery just a waste of money?
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I knew I wasn't the only one withthat problem. I think i've prooved it to be a battery faultt. as if you taake te battery out after it gets to that stage where you just can not get it too complete a boot up without it shuttinng down again
take out battery ,place finer oveer all battery trmminals and plug inn your mainss charger it should now boot up and runn fin off the charger unless your finger slips off the battery terminals. thisshsowws it's the temprature sensor in the battery.
I posted a more in depth reply to a guy in the wm6 threads as wifi heeaating up battery wass shutting off his device as well

@ cyberjak
Hmm, the idea that a temperature sensor in the battery causes this problems is interesting. I'd just expect the device not being cappable of rebooting instantly, because there should be a hysteresis implemented in the battery's protection circuit.
I had the exact same problems and described them elsewhere, but in my case it surely wasn't an issue of temperature.
I'd suggest to take out the battery and wait about an hour for the device and the battery to cool off. Most likely the battery will then take a complete boot but shut down soon after that - without having gotten near to "warm" yet.
If this happens you can be sure that the battery itself is dead without needing to measure anything.

Okay, to tell you what I tried:
I ran the Universal until it spontaneously went dead.
Started bootlaoder to see how much longer it would work on that. Was a bit longer, what with low energy consumption, but soon even that wouldn't stay on for long.
Then decided to try the "old wives' tale" (meaning I don't know whether there's any sense behind it or not) of putting the battery in the freezer for a little while.
When I took it out and let it get back to normal temp, I plugged it in and after a while booted the Universal. It showed 40% battery, lower than it had ever gotten lately.
Recharged for a full day.
Tried TCPMP: went dead after three minutes.
So in my experience the above didn't help battery performance.
Am going to get a new battery in a few days; I'll keep you posted on progress as I try with a fresh battery.

I had the same problem, whenever i did something cpu intensive, it would just black out.
I just bought a new 3100mAh battery. Best thing i ever did. It might be thicker now with the new battery, but it actually feels more comfortable as a phone. Plus the new battery only cost 13 odd quid, so definately well worth it. Oh and it doubles the battery life (3100/1500 = ~2... duh)
Hope that helps.

oh you know wat i have the same problem with my Jasjar and the bigest problem that there is no batteries on market for Jasjars in my country....its looks like im living in Jurassic Century!!!

If you want i can send you a battery xplayer, they're quite cheap here.

Rc-Blob said:
I had the same problem, whenever i did something cpu intensive, it would just black out.
I just bought a new 3100mAh battery. Best thing i ever did. It might be thicker now with the new battery, but it actually feels more comfortable as a phone. Plus the new battery only cost 13 odd quid, so definately well worth it. Oh and it doubles the battery life (3100/1500 = ~2... duh)
Hope that helps.
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I ordered a regular battery replacement, but maybe I'll add a 3100mAh as well.
I could use it as a media player during long train trips.

Holy Bear said:
Okay, to tell you what I tried:
I ran the Universal until it spontaneously went dead.
Started bootlaoder to see how much longer it would work on that. Was a bit longer, what with low energy consumption, but soon even that wouldn't stay on for long.
Then decided to try the "old wives' tale" (meaning I don't know whether there's any sense behind it or not) of putting the battery in the freezer for a little while.
When I took it out and let it get back to normal temp, I plugged it in and after a while booted the Universal. It showed 40% battery, lower than it had ever gotten lately.
Recharged for a full day.
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I revived two batteries by intense cycling to work quite well again. They still black out at 20%, but only under extreme load (active gsm connection, active wifi, bluetooth and having to render a webpage).
But you should be able to discharge them below 25% at least. Else they're most certainly "too dead" already. And you should do at least 3-4 cycles.
My guess would be that the freezer finished your battery off. I don't understand how this method should work anyway, as lower temperatures reduce the time affected capacity loss. Actually the best place to store a LiPo or LIo battery is the fridge, charged about half the way.
But I also ordered two 3100mAh batteries. I'm using the Uni as a laptop replacement and the permanent wifi usage together with some cpu load and the backlight kicks the battery's ass quite hard.
In Germany the China 3100mAhs are overpriced and it's hard to get your hands on an external charger, but on Ebay.co.uk there's a seller that offers battery and charger as a bundle for about 15€. This will give me a solid 6000+mAh per day and should be enough to forget about virtually every setting related to power consumption
@ xplayer
If you haven't donw already, take a look at Ebay.com, co.uk etc and look if one of the sellers there will ship to kurdistan. You may be lucky

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If you want i can send you a battery xplayer, they're quite cheap here.
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Oh Thanx Rc-Blob....bt there is No way even to send me no addresses no posting in my country...am from kurdistan of Iraq...thanks again its looks like u sent me one...bt I even have brother in USA he can't send me...except if some one come from there so i have to wait...thanks buddy...

EvilJogga said:
I revived two batteries by intense cycling to work quite well again. They still black out at 20%, but only under extreme load (active gsm connection, active wifi, bluetooth and having to render a webpage).
But you should be able to discharge them below 25% at least. Else they're most certainly "too dead" already. And you should do at least 3-4 cycles.
My guess would be that the freezer finished your battery off. I don't understand how this method should work anyway, as lower temperatures reduce the time affected capacity loss. Actually the best place to store a LiPo or LIo battery is the fridge, charged about half the way.
But I also ordered two 3100mAh batteries. I'm using the Uni as a laptop replacement and the permanent wifi usage together with some cpu load and the backlight kicks the battery's ass quite hard.
In Germany the China 3100mAhs are overpriced and it's hard to get your hands on an external charger, but on Ebay.co.uk there's a seller that offers battery and charger as a bundle for about 15€. This will give me a solid 6000+mAh per day and should be enough to forget about virtually every setting related to power consumption
@ xplayer
If you haven't donw already, take a look at Ebay.com, co.uk etc and look if one of the sellers there will ship to kurdistan. You may be lucky
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hhh ok buddy you too for care....but there is realy no way i have to wait tell some one(my brothers friend) come from USA so he can get me one from there....its ok...i can use it yet as a normal mobile...i have some other devices for multimedia right now i can wait there is no any other ways....thanks...

Rc-Blob said:
If you want i can send you a battery xplayer, they're quite cheap here.
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Thanx for helping the guy,yo folks on xda are the best

Just to give you all the end of the story:
I ordered a regular replacement and a 3200 mAh one, and both have returned my Universal to a well-used life.
Thanks again to everyone helping me out here.

For you guys does the device switch off only when the battery is low, or any time. Cause I have this problem as well, and I was SURE that it wasn't a battery problem until I read this thread. The phone switches off intermittently, sometimes after only 3' talk time right after it had been charging for a full 8 hours! Also, usually if I let it sit there for a few hours I could then turn it back on and it would last a full day, so I knew it wasn't due to low battery.
The overheating theory would explain my problem, as, now that I think about it, all my seemingly-random shutdowns were during radio activity (making or receiving calls, especially when the phone was searching for signal, or wifi, which would almost instantly kill it). Strange that it overheats like this, most phone batteries simply run out of charge faster and faster until they can't hold a charge at all, but mine lasts almost as long as it always lasted even though it's 2 years old - unless I get the shutdown thing of course.

I asked this in another thread, but since this one is full of people who got replacement batteries I'll repeat my question here as well:
How much thicker than the standard battery are the 3100 and the 4200mAh ones?

I also got this problem recently, so I bought a new battery and although it's only a 1600mAh battery it runs great again

hey roodkapje ive got that same problem with my battery for my spv m5000 the bad news is that i cant get that batery in barbados so im all out to see

48 Hours of Battery Life on Epic 4G

I got 48 hours of battery life this past weekend (2 full days) after reworking my phone on Friday. I actually got 24 hours of battery life one day, when I first flashed the phone a couple of weeks ago, with Light / Moderate use. I am running the Bonsai4All ROM. I had been running it previously but had flashed back to stock due to an issue with Wifi, that I thought might be related to this ROM. After further research I found the Wifi issue was NOT related so I decided, since I liked Bonzai so well, to re-flash and keep it.
Here's what I did:
* From Odin I flashed to the stock ROM.
* I flashed to DK28 via Odin.
* I loaded Bonzai4All_Leafless.zip, ext4-format_njournal.zip and kernel-EXT4-RFS-Bonzai.zip files to my sdcard.
* I rooted my phone using the OneClickRootCWM3.zip.
* Restarted my phone in Recovery Mode to update CWM to ext4.
* Flashed Bonzai ROM and started phone.
* Installed my apps.
* Restarted my phone in Recovery Mode and ran Reboot Recovery to get to CW 2.5
* Flashed ext4-format.
* Flashed Bonzai4All.
* Flashed Kernel-EXT4
* Restarted phone.
At this point I had a clean install and all apps re-installed via Google. Then I turned the phone off and fully charged my battery. I Bump-charged the battery 6 times (6X) to get a full charge (something I found in another post). Before I turned the phone on I booted into Recovery and Wiped the Battery Stats. I restarted the phone and followed these steps (also something I had found in another post in the forums regarding battery life).
* Turned off bluetooth when not in use.
* Turned off GPS when I didn't need it.
* Turned screen brightness to automatic
* Turned off 4G receiver since I was out of 4G coverage area this weekend.
* Turned off synchronization. Only enabled it throughout the day to sync.
* Left Wifi on as much as possible since I was in an area with wifi all the time.
* Toggled Airplane mode after I rebooted the phone. (the post stated it was a "stupid bug")
* Killed the OmaDrmConfigService process via Settings > Applications > Running Services.
The phone was used lightly over the weekend. I used Bluetooth when making calls and only syncing about four times a day. I also did a few text messages. I fully charged my phone yesterday and am using it more to see what the battery life is with Moderate use. At this point it has been unplugged for 20 hours and still has 64 percent charge.
I took pictures via Shoot Me every 12 hours. These pictures are real, they have not been tampered with. Don't know what anyone elses results have been but here are mine.

Ehh..With light to moderate use thats not too impressive; btw..the "bump" charging isn't good for your battery. Theres a reason why it doesn't fully charge; because it's not good for the health of the battery.
Sorry to burst your bubble man ^-^ I've gotten 36hrs on moderate/heavy usage.

OP, Did you change your Wi-Fi advanced settings to "never sleep"?

XtaC318 said:
Ehh..With light to moderate use thats not too impressive; btw..the "bump" charging isn't good for your battery. Theres a reason why it doesn't fully charge; because it's not good for the health of the battery.
Sorry to burst your bubble man ^-^ I've gotten 36hrs on moderate/heavy usage.
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That's why I posted this...wanted to know what others were getting from the battery. I'm aware of the bump charge issue and this is a one-time thing for me...don't have money to replace it...hehe.
What are you doing to get 36 hrs?
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rocket321 said:
OP, Did you change your Wi-Fi advanced settings to "never sleep"?
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Yes, my wifi is set to "never sleep"
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gaaspul said:
That's why I posted this...wanted to know what others were getting from the battery. I'm aware of the bump charge issue and this is a one-time thing for me...don't have money to replace it...hehe.
What are you doing to get 36 hrs?
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Everyone should just get an extended battery and not worry about battery life anymore. I run everything at their optimal settings and the phone lasts forever anyway. Brightness at max all the time, no juicedefender or any of that nonsense. Its awesome. You can leave GPS on contantly. Who cares, you got plenty of battery. And if you absolutely need the battery to last you can just tone down some things and make it last for days. Longest I have gone is:
but I hate running my phone like that.

muyoso said:
Everyone should just get an extended battery and not worry about battery life.
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Where did you get yours? I've been looking online but don't want to ge burned.
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gaaspul said:
Where did you get yours? I've been looking online but don't want to ge burned.
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I bought the 3500mah one from ebay. They go for like 12 dollars now. They are not actually 3500mah, but they certainly give a giant boost over stock. They are probably around 2600-3000mah realistically. I have a review in the accessories section. The name brand batteries might be better, but no one has done a objective test comparing them yet and for the price its hard to beat the generic ones from China. People are very satisfied with the Yoobao 2800 mah batteries as well, and those go for around 20ish dollars shipped on ebay. Both are the same thickness and add a little bulk to the phone but you get used to it almost immediately.

gaaspul said:
Where did you get yours? I've been looking online but don't want to ge burned.
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google this: Seidio Innocell. they have a 3300 mAH battery and i believe they might have a 3500 mAH one as well. so far ive seen nothing but the best reviews for this brand on newegg, amazon, as well as anroid central. theyre a bit pricey, but im not going to let that stop me from using my phone fully without fear of being too far from an outlet

Save your money and buy the generics. All battery manufacturers blatantly lie about their mah ratings, Seidio included. The only mah ratings that are genuine are from OEM batteries. That Seidio 3300 mah will really be around 2700mah. The criminals even have the balls to charge 6 dollars extra for the cheapest shipping after making you pay $75 for the battery. Buy the 12 dollar generic 3500mah on ebay which at a minimum will get you 2400mah real life or go for the 2800mah Yoobao which will probably get you around the same for $20ish. The generics blatantly lie on their ratings while manufacturers like Seidio and Mugen cheat on their ratings. Either way, you don't get the battery you paid for and at least with the generics you pay 7 times less.
www.batteryboss.org

I have no idea how long my battery lasts and frankly don't care as I have 4 of them. Just for the record the OP's method of installing Bonsai! is a waste of time IMHO.

Wow guys...
OP I just wanted to say thanks for posting the steps you took.. Not everyone is going to agree on the best way to do things. but it is good to see all the different options and opinions..

muyoso said:
Everyone should just get an extended battery and not worry about battery life anymore. I run everything at their optimal settings and the phone lasts forever anyway. Brightness at max all the time, no juicedefender or any of that nonsense. Its awesome. You can leave GPS on contantly. Who cares, you got plenty of battery. And if you absolutely need the battery to last you can just tone down some things and make it last for days. Longest I have gone is:
but I hate running my phone like that.
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I have had similar luck... But I usually just run the phone all out anyway... Listening to pandora now just because I'm sick of my normal collection... I have another battery I can throw in when this one dies today... And rest assured it will
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snowmanwithahat said:
I have had similar luck... But I usually just run the phone all out anyway... Listening to pandora now just because I'm sick of my normal collection... I have another battery I can throw in when this one dies today... And rest assured it will
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Same. I can't wait until the 2.2 source is leaked. Gonna have my phone overclocked and set for Performance in SetCPU, screen brightness on high, etc, while still having enough battery for a day.

Top Nurse said:
Just for the record the OP's method of installing Bonsai! is a waste of time IMHO.
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Top Nurse: This was done before they released the new version.
muyoso: I ordered a two-pack generic 3500mAh with charger last night ($26). Again, I had been looking at them but wanted to hear from someone who had used them. In regards to your last reply, I also had my phone overclocked and set for Performance in SetCPU, screen brightness on high, etc, the first time I flashed Bonzai...got 6 and a half hours of battery life and only made ONE phone call...LOL! I've had almost 30 hours of battery life with moderate / heavy use after I posted the original thread, so I've been pretty happy. I'm looking forward to the extended battery.
Thanks to all for the input.

muyoso said:
Save your money and buy the generics. All battery manufacturers blatantly lie about their mah ratings, Seidio included. The only mah ratings that are genuine are from OEM batteries. That Seidio 3300 mah will really be around 2700mah. The criminals even have the balls to charge 6 dollars extra for the cheapest shipping after making you pay $75 for the battery. Buy the 12 dollar generic 3500mah on ebay which at a minimum will get you 2400mah real life or go for the 2800mah Yoobao which will probably get you around the same for $20ish. The generics blatantly lie on their ratings while manufacturers like Seidio and Mugen cheat on their ratings. Either way, you don't get the battery you paid for and at least with the generics you pay 7 times less.
www.batteryboss.org
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I didn't know that to be honest. I was given the impression that a lot of the generic brands seem to have a shorter life even with comparable mAH ratings. I also read amazing reviews for this specific brand even on here. I'm not a fan-boy or anything, but I've been trying to find a decent extended battery for my epic as well. However, I cant go out and spend my hard earned moneys without doing some research and so far ive read that this is one of the top brands. But now after reading your post im not so sure about what to do :/

Skrewup5 said:
I didn't know that to be honest. I was given the impression that a lot of the generic brands seem to have a shorter life even with comparable mAH ratings. I also read amazing reviews for this specific brand even on here. I'm not a fan-boy or anything, but I've been trying to find a decent extended battery for my epic as well. However, I cant go out and spend my hard earned moneys without doing some research and so far ive read that this is one of the top brands. But now after reading your post im not so sure about what to do :/
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The reasons to buy the Seidio is that you know you are going to get a perfectly functioning battery and that the battery might last longer than generics.
The reason to buy generics are that they are cheap as hell, but you may get a dud apparently, according to a couple people in my accessories thread, and might have to exchange it with the seller.
Either way, no battery other than an OEM battery will be at the rated capacity. I dont know how they are able to claim mah ratings that their batteries simply cannot reach. I mean, I know how the generics can do it, they are based in China and they can claim anything they want without retribution.
I recommend saving your money and getting a generic or even a Yoobao branded battery, because even if it does lose the ability to hold capacity 50% sooner than the Seidio would, you can just buy another 5 and still have paid less money than the name brand one.

I got 38 hours earlier with 3 hours and 42 minutes before i decided to plug it in at 9 percent
I'm on stock dk28
I don't have 3g on because in my house I'm by wifi, outside I'm blanketed in 4g and I noticed that since I took 3g off, my cell standby doesn't even show up in the battery percentage usage so I'm guessing that added to my battery life lol
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gaaspul said:
* Turned screen brightness to automatic
* Turned off 4G receiver since I was out of 4G coverage area this weekend.
* Turned off synchronization. Only enabled it throughout the day to sync.
* Left Wifi on as much as possible since I was in an area with wifi all the time.
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These 4 are probably the biggest drivers. I've gotten nearly 36 hours out of the phone before with light use.
The constantly waking to sync is a large drain in Android.
Also, I notice the WiFi radio in this phone practically sips power. The 3G radio, on the other hand, tanks the phone like no other, moreso than other phones (and all the reviews seem to confirm this by the talk time comparisons).
That and using the display in auto brightness. The display sucks down quite a bit, despite Samsung's claims to its power efficiency.

jnadke said:
These 4 are probably the biggest drivers. I've gotten nearly 36 hours out of the phone before with light use.
The constantly waking to sync is a large drain in Android.
Also, I notice the WiFi radio in this phone practically sips power. The 3G radio, on the other hand, tanks the phone like no other, moreso than other phones (and all the reviews seem to confirm this by the talk time comparisons).
That and using the display in auto brightness. The display sucks down quite a bit, despite Samsung's claims to its power efficiency.
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See my post above
I got those results with the brightness set to manual (usually I have it at 50-70ish%, putting it up to 100 when watching videos and viewing pics) and the auto sync on
I think it has to do with certain kernals and stuff? Idk but I don't think its worth gimping th features that make it a "smartphone"...
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Battery Issues

I bought a used Note 4 a few days ago which I've been greatly enjoying using. However it has been behaving rather oddly.
It turned off a couple of times, and at first I thought it was random, but then I realised it was turning off at around 20% battery. It wouldn't turn back on until I plugged it in, but when I did it would tell me that I had ~20% battery left. I then realised that it wasn't letting me charge past ~80%.
I tried calibrating the battery using *#2882# (code may from memory so may be incorrect. I think I then allowed it to drain and was delighted to see that it could get to 0% normally. I attached it to the fast charger, it then quickly reached 80% and then slowly progressed past to reach 100%.
However today (the first trip into the world after the first successful 100% charge) it reached approximately 30%, died like before and then when I plugged it in it said it had 11% battery. The battery usage graph will illustrate my point.
Any ideas anyone?

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Any ideas anyone?
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Buy a new genuine battery (preferably direct from Samsung), or get an Anker or PolarCell, sounds like your battery is past its best.

Kinsman-UK said:
Buy a new genuine battery (preferably direct from Samsung), or get an Anker or PolarCell, sounds like your battery is past its best.
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That is something I intend to do, but I've read accounts of similar behaviour and a new battery didn't help.

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That is something I intend to do, but I've read accounts of similar behaviour and a new battery didn't help.
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Yes, but it's a used phone, so:
a) you have no idea what the battery has been through or how it has been treated
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b) you can't be sure it's even a genuine Samsung battery, it could be one of the very convincing fake replacements.
So first thing to try is a genuine replacement battery. If it doesn't make any difference, then at least you have a new one (which will always be better) and a used spare.

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Yes, but it's a used phone, so:
a) you have no idea what the battery has been through or how it has been treated
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b) you can't be sure it's even a genuine Samsung battery, it could be one of the very convincing fake replacements.
So first thing to try is a genuine replacement battery. If it doesn't make any difference, then at least you have a new one (which will always be better) and a used spare.
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But equally, I don't want to spend money on a phone I may have to send back. Though I suppose based on my current experience I certainly would want another note 4

battery.

it has been months now having to deal with this issue.
i really love my 6p but I've got tired of having to charge my phone every three hours. it shuts down when recording video when the battery below 50% or giving the CPU a hard task like searching a long excel sheet. i cant open Snapchat when below 50% fearing that it will shutdown and its not may or may not it will shutdown .
i don't think its a hardware failure because when it happens twrp boots up just fine but cant mount data and it shows the real percentage. while ROM shows 1% and shutdown. it happens with all ROMs even the stock ones.
I live in a country where there is no support from google or any hardware store ( they don't even know the name of the phone ).
this issue have put me in many awkward moments I've waited for a long time towards a solution maybe that's it. and it is time to move on ??.

Its a hardware fault, as in as much as your battery needs replacing. Well known issue where the battery degrades causing this issue.
You could install Accubattery and do a health check to conform this.

Replace Your Battery!
dark3bod said:
it has been months now having to deal with this issue......
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Have you been living in a cave? Are you a troll? Did you think a software update was coming to fix it? You need a replacement battery, or get another phone.

dark3bod said:
it has been months now having to deal with this issue.
i really love my 6p but I've got tired of having to charge my phone every three hours. it shuts down when recording video when the battery below 50% or giving the CPU a hard task like searching a long excel sheet. i cant open Snapchat when below 50% fearing that it will shutdown and its not may or may not it will shutdown .
i don't think its a hardware failure because when it happens twrp boots up just fine but cant mount data and it shows the real percentage. while ROM shows 1% and shutdown. it happens with all ROMs even the stock ones.
I live in a country where there is no support from google or any hardware store ( they don't even know the name of the phone ).
this issue have put me in many awkward moments I've waited for a long time towards a solution maybe that's it. and it is time to move on ??.
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I installed a new battery and used battery calibration from the play store. It's working like new again.

I just got my new 6p battery. I can confirm that I just get 1hr of screen on time and it will shutdown. I live in asia and There is no stock of the 6p's battery everywhere here even in Huawei stores and service centers. I got mine from an online site and have it shipped to me. It took a while but it was worth it. Its like new again (bought this device 2nd hand and already have the degraded battery).

vyrus027 said:
I just got my new 6p battery. I can confirm that I just get 1hr of screen on time and it will shutdown. I live in asia and There is no stock of the 6p's battery everywhere here even in Huawei stores and service centers. I got mine from an online site and have it shipped to me. It took a while but it was worth it. Its like new again (bought this device 2nd hand and already have the degraded battery).
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What batteries did you guys buy? I have battery issues. Phone dies but twrp shows another value. Sometimes drops by 2% instead of 1%

lil_ith said:
What batteries did you guys buy? I have battery issues. Phone dies but twrp shows another value. Sometimes drops by 2% instead of 1%
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There is no more original battery for our 6p almost everything that is being sold is a chinese knockoffs. But I got a Beltron Battery. I also like the cameron sino (good reviews) but the price is 2x the price of beltron if when i ship it to my country. But, So far no issues. 1hr 45mins SOT and i still have 70% (Fb, YT, Web browsing, instagram and etc). Today is my first day of using this battery. Fingers crossed.

vyrus027 said:
There is no more original battery for our 6p almost everything that is being sold is a chinese knockoffs. But I got a Beltron Battery. I also like the cameron sino (good reviews) but the price is 2x the price of beltron if when i ship it to my country. But, So far no issues. 1hr 45mins SOT and i still have 70% (Fb, YT, Web browsing, instagram and etc). Today is my first day of using this battery. Fingers crossed.
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I've never heard that one. But I've heard I've had to be careful with sino as most are fakes now. But I've also heard good ones about Cameron sino x longer? Or something.
Very much would appreciate your advice on this as I don't want to pay for a fake. As I plan to get a new charger, battery, screen protector and case for it. But with the battery as it is now. Wouldn't be worth it

lil_ith said:
I've never heard that one. But I've heard I've had to be careful with sino as most are fakes now. But I've also heard good ones about Cameron sino x longer? Or something.
Very much would appreciate your advice on this as I don't want to pay for a fake. As I plan to get a new charger, battery, screen protector and case for it. But with the battery as it is now. Wouldn't be worth it
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I suggest Beltron like mine, most of the batteries doesnt have any temp sensor. It doesnt bother me that much. I suggest using a 1A charger. Slow charging but it doesnt stress the battery so much like the OEM charger. My wild guess is that the charger is the reason why the battery degrades so fast. Good luck with your 6p!

vyrus027 said:
I suggest Beltron like mine, most of the batteries doesnt have any temp sensor. It doesnt bother me that much. I suggest using a 1A charger. Slow charging but it doesnt stress the battery so much like the OEM charger. My wild guess is that the charger is the reason why the battery degrades so fast. Good luck with your 6p!
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Thankyou very much. I will keep looking/reading but I keep this in mind. Thankyou

vyrus027 said:
There is no more original battery for our 6p almost everything that is being sold is a chinese knockoffs. But I got a Beltron Battery. I also like the cameron sino (good reviews) but the price is 2x the price of beltron if when i ship it to my country. But, So far no issues. 1hr 45mins SOT and i still have 70% (Fb, YT, Web browsing, instagram and etc). Today is my first day of using this battery. Fingers crossed.
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Agree... but what does Accubattery say your battery capacity is? 1st day feel of the pants is feedback, but having data would be better. Run the app, and after a few full charges let us know how this battery compares to the one it replaced. You *may* have found a great replacement. Thanks.

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Agree... but what does Accubattery say your battery capacity is? 1st day feel of the pants is feedback, but having data would be better. Run the app, and after a few full charges let us know how this battery compares to the one it replaced. You *may* have found a great replacement. Thanks.
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Ill download the app again. I always forget using that app. Last night i charged it 30%-100% in just more or less 3hrs using 1A charger. i was asleep that time. Today I'm using the phone non stop. Off wifi and off cellular since i have a dedicated daily driver for my social life using this device just for entertainment. Today I've been reading manga using an app non stop @ 50% brightness. Here are the screen shots of my battery in settings. I think its good. Ill return with accubattery data later

Any links for recommended battery instructions?

dark3bod said:
it has been months now having to deal with this issue.
i really love my 6p but I've got tired of having to charge my phone every three hours. it shuts down when recording video when the battery below 50% or giving the CPU a hard task like searching a long excel sheet. i cant open Snapchat when below 50% fearing that it will shutdown and its not may or may not it will shutdown .
i don't think its a hardware failure because when it happens twrp boots up just fine but cant mount data and it shows the real percentage. while ROM shows 1% and shutdown. it happens with all ROMs even the stock ones.
I live in a country where there is no support from google or any hardware store ( they don't even know the name of the phone ).
this issue have put me in many awkward moments I've waited for a long time towards a solution maybe that's it. and it is time to move on .
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My wife had the same problems and got a Pixel.
I ordered a new battery for around $20, put it in and now it's like a new phone. I swapped out the Sim card from my Moto z and now it's my daily driver. By the end of my shift it's still at 80%

I bought a brand new Nexus 6P and have had it for a month now and I must say, coming from the LG G5, its a damn shame the 6P's battery doesn't live up to the potential some phone batteries do. I would recommend doing a health check for your battery once a month at least, it's what I do to keep an eye on things. There are some good apps for monitoring your usage and longevity quite accurately.
Nevertheless I still prefer my 6P to the G5 :silly:

If your want an OEM battery here is one https://goo.gl/jmYfn9 the seller runs out but seems to get more in. I bought this one and had five and a half hours screen on time when I plugged in at 8% battery left. Mine was shutting down as soon as it hit 20%

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I bought a brand new Nexus 6P and have had it for a month now and I must say, coming from the LG G5, its a damn shame the 6P's battery doesn't live up to the potential some phone batteries do. I would recommend doing a health check for your battery once a month at least, it's what I do to keep an eye on things. There are some good apps for monitoring your usage and longevity quite accurately.
Nevertheless I still prefer my 6P to the G5 :silly:
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I have to object to the that factor that the battery on the 6p doesn't live up to its potential, well I'm making a statement out out of that comment, I bought an replaced my own battery, even went as far as adding new thermal paste in the places required, I also have my device rooted an pretty much battery mod central on my device, I have had it for 5 days on deep doze settings an it's at 68%. I had insured my journey with complete overall satisfaction, I have added a 3600 an it came 2 days after I Ordered off Amazon, for 15$ free shipping, can't beat the fact is the way a device should run, no just a nexus 6p, I mean ll devices, if you can oot it when your phone is new, you can max your battery potential to the extreme, if you've had the device like me for 3+ years, every battery saving option I went through trial and error Makin that thing last for 3 hours if it was rooted with doze settings and lasted an hour max if not rooted. So I went the do it youself an learn something an it wasn't hard one bit. Charged It till full an turned it on an let it do its thing, I can't tell you how many of you need to change your battery out an buy a new phone. let's be clear an unrooted phone will never exceed battery life for the reasons of the hogwash they add o it an cause it to drain, if you eliminate the drag you'll get your full potential on battery life and only 15$ than forking out 500$ on a new device, work smarter not harder. Seeder, amplify, greenify, power nap, servicely, naptime, xposed, better battery stats, tasker, appcontext, powersving.apk,magisk doze mods, I recommend them all on magisk even if they are repoed, fix the prop for the present time if you know what your doing, Lspeed Is a great tool to have, I use elementalx an tweaked my settings for battery another great tool for battery conserving is [All+ROMs]+Galacticâ„¢+DeepSleep+MOD+[Super+Battery+Saver], find an flash it in recovery. For all devices.
If there are any questions on those apps or have any fed back let me know. Good luck.

S10+(SM-G975U1) battery life went bad

Does anyone know that is wrong with my phone?
the standby battery life off the chart
i can get close to 9h SOT stright no problem,but if i leave it on standby i can't even get 16hours out of it
no warm,hot or something like that
i thought it was the battery but it is still the same after replace the battery
i've try anything i can find on internet
1.Disable AOD
2.Reset network setting
3.airplane mode
4.factory reset
5.screen resolution
6.adaptive brightness,adaptive power saving
7.reflash firmware
8.replace new battery
9.switch it off for 24hours(not even lose 1%)
i'm ran out of idea now
if anybody know what wrong with this phone please help me
sorry for my english ><

You might need to take it somewhere and have a tech look at it or contact Samsung on it or claim warranty with Samsung.

See if it does it in safe mode.
Probably a rogue apk(s)... a software issue.

okay i'm going to give a try on safe mode

it's still there losing a about 15% over 5 hours on idle.

Same on my note 10. Battery live just went bad over nigh, exactly 1 year after I bough the phone. So I guess this is build in to make us upgrade to the next gen phone. I won't even waste my money to replace the battery because I know it won't make any difference. Typical $am$ung

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it's still there losing a about 15% over 5 hours on idle.
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I'm running on Pie with a 10+ so you may have different issues/solutions. One of the big reasons I never upgrade; I have this phone optimized, it's fast, stable, reasonably secure and I like it. Took a lot of time to get to this point.
Lol, I'm still happily running W7x64
Probably a Google apk; Backup Transport*, Google Services Framework and Google Play Services are known offenders.
Try clearing their data.
I package block the first 2 and use Karma Firewall to block GP Services except when I need it for gmail or gmaps.
In Developer options look at running services.
Also in the same look at Standby apps; all buckets should show as active. If not then power management** is active, disable all power management; Android will manage it's self nicely.
Enable only the "Optimized" option for display/cpu and fast charging in Device Care.
Use the factory load version of Device Care if on Pie. Firewall block it though after which use it's system cache cleaner.
Download Galaxy Labs Battery Tracker from the Galaxy store.
Download Karma Firewall from Playstore.
Consider using this: https://www.packagedisabler.com/
*turning off backup Transport in goggle settings doesn't stop it and Framework is a dependency of the former I think. It needs blocked too and will still show as running but at a very reduce amount.
Occasionally even when blocked all 3 need their data cleared to stop excessive battery usage.
**track down the roque apks one by one and deal with them without using power management options.

Burllz said:
Same on my note 10. Battery live just went bad over nigh, exactly 1 year after I bough the phone. So I guess this is build in to make us upgrade to the next gen phone. I won't even waste my money to replace the battery because I know it won't make any difference. Typical $am$ung
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i completely agree with you
there no point replacing the battery like i did
Li-Ion/Li-Poly can't go bad in just 1 night unless it blow up or something
even my previous note 5 battery can take charge day in day out for over 3years without needing a new battery.

blackhawk said:
I'm running on Pie with a 10+ so you may have different issues/solutions. One of the big reasons I never upgrade; I have this phone optimized, it's fast, stable, reasonably secure and I like it. Took a lot of time to get to this point.
Lol, I'm still happily running W7x64
Probably a Google apk; Backup Transport*, Google Services Framework and Google Play Services are known offenders.
Try clearing their data.
I package block the first 2 and use Karma Firewall to block GP Services except when I need it for gmail or gmaps.
*turning off backup Transport in goggle settings doesn't stop it and Framework is a dependency of the former I think. It needs blocked too and will still show as running but at a very reduce amount.
Occasionally even when blocked all 3 need their data cleared to stop excessive battery usage.
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i wish i can downgrade it back to pie and stay there like you did,but now i'm stuck with Bit 4 firmware can't even roll it back to OneUi 2.1
now i'm going to give a try to disable those stuff like you said xD

Burllz said:
Same on my note 10. Battery live just went bad over nigh, exactly 1 year after I bough the phone. So I guess this is build in to make us upgrade to the next gen phone. I won't even waste my money to replace the battery because I know it won't make any difference. Typical $am$ung
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Avoid charging to 100%
Avoid draining below 30%
Never charge battery if temp is below 60F and especially if freezing or below.
Ideal charging start charging temp seems to be about 80-90F
Keep battery temp below 100F whenever possible.
Shut it down or cool it if battery reaches 105F when using it.
Li's like small frequent midrange charge cycles*.
I run between 40-65% normally and fast charge it 3 to 4 times a day.
A charge takes about 10-12 minutes.
I'm at over a year and not seeing any detectable deterioration yet.
*this can extend the battery life by hundreds even thousands of full charge cycles.

zackyo said:
i wish i can downgrade it back to pie and stay there like you did,but now i'm stuck with Bit 4 firmware can't even roll it back to OneUi 2.1
now i'm going to give a try to disable those stuff like you said xD
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Live and learn. Play with it and sort it out.
You could always get it flashed back to the original firmware if worse comes to worst... hopefully that won't be necessary.

blackhawk said:
Avoid charging to 100%
Avoid draining below 30%
Never charge battery if temp is below 60F and especially if freezing or below.
Ideal charging start charging temp seems to be about 80-90F
Keep battery temp below 100F whenever possible.
Shut it down or cool it if battery reaches 105F when using it.
Li's like small frequent midrange charge cycles*.
I run between 40-65% normally and fast charge it 3 to 4 times a day.
A charge takes about 10-12 minutes.
I'm at over a year and not seeing any detectable deterioration yet.
*this can extend the battery life by hundreds even thousands of full charge cycles.
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agree,this will reduce the stress on the battery except on Note4,that phone just keep asking for new battery every
6-12months no matter what i do.
for me personally i just use it as day in day out like most people do course i don't mind replacing the battery every 1-2 years as long it works the way it should,i mean not the way my S10+ does right now ><
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Live and learn. Play with it and sort it out.
You could always get it flashed back to the original firmware if worse comes to worst... hopefully that won't be necessary.
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i totally understand what you meant xD and yeah hopefully that won't be necessary.

zackyo said:
agree,this will reduce the stress on the battery except on Note4,that phone just keep asking for new battery every
6-12months no matter what i do.
for me personally i just use it as day in day out like most people do course i don't mind replacing the battery every 1-2 years as long it works the way it should,i mean not the way my S10+ does right now ><
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I haven't been a saint with the 10+'a battery but the insults add up if you do it every day.
Likewise being conservative with the charging and temp parameters should too.
It will be interesting how long this battery lasts as I use the phone a lot.
Accubattery to spite it's faults is a good monitoring tool. It's charge reminder is handy and it's milliamp overlay has been useful.
It also logs charge/discharge milliamps and times which is probably the best battery indicator.

speaking of discharge rate,may i know whats your?
mine was like 100ma-150ma on idle off screen thats pretty high even compare to 3 years old device

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speaking of discharge rate,may i know whats your?
mine was like 100ma-150ma on idle off screen thats pretty high even compare to 3 years old device
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Sounds normal even low for idle SOT...

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Sounds normal even low for idle SOT...
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okay noted thanks.
look like i'm going to dive deeper into this device then
not giving up on this beauty devices yet

zackyo said:
okay noted thanks.
look like i'm going to dive deeper into this device then
not giving up on this beauty devices yet
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Disable Android updates. Only update after others have given feedback and you have more to gain than loss. Once you update you may well need to start this witch hunt all over.
Androids are fun to play with... go to it

noted,will do
do you recommended me to rollback to 1st 4 bin Nov firmware or just stick with current firmware?

zackyo said:
noted,will do
do you recommended me to rollback to 1st 4 bin Nov firmware or just stick with current firmware?
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Depends what you want. If not sure, play with this one for a while.
I'm still running on Pie on my 10+ so I don't bother looking much at updates.
I'm not pleased with Q though so it's a no brainer to stay with Pie. At this point I have near zero issues, it's fast, stable, it does all I need it to do and runs the apps I use well.

zackyo said:
Does anyone know that is wrong with my phone?
the standby battery life off the chart
i can get close to 9h SOT stright no problem,but if i leave it on standby i can't even get 16hours out of it
no warm,hot or something like that
i thought it was the battery but it is still the same after replace the battery
i've try anything i can find on internet
1.Disable AOD
2.Reset network setting
3.airplane mode
4.factory reset
5.screen resolution
6.adaptive brightness,adaptive power saving
7.reflash firmware
8.replace new battery
9.switch it off for 24hours(not even lose 1%)
i'm ran out of idea now
if anybody know what wrong with this phone please help me
sorry for my english ><
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Dial *#0228# in telephone app , and a advanced-looking app will pop up, click on quick start, neglect any warning messages.