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So I am looking to purchase a Nexus One sometime within the next month or so. I'm an AT&T user and currently am using the FUZE with a custom ROM and running the Eclair XDAndroid build, which obviously doesn't compare to a real android device in any way, shape, or form. I'm completely aware of the features and abilities of both the iPhone and the N1, so this isn't really a feature comparison thread. On paper I know what the N1 is capable of, and everyone I know (literally) has a freaking iPhone so I know what that is capable of in the real world with real use.
Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
I know this probably seems like a dumb thread, but I've searched and I've heard all the comparisons for features, but I just want to hear your comparisons through actual real world experience with the device (even if you haven't use the iPhone. Oh, and I did see the CNET video of the iPhone vs N1 brawl and that definitely is helping me lean more and more towards the N1.
Any advice would be great. Just please don't turn this into a flame war, both phones are fantastic in their own ways.
lostinbeta said:
So I am looking to purchase a Nexus One sometime within the next month or so. I'm an AT&T user and currently am using the FUZE with a custom ROM and running the Eclair XDAndroid build, which obviously doesn't compare to a real android device in any way, shape, or form. I'm completely aware of the features and abilities of both the iPhone and the N1, so this isn't really a feature comparison thread. On paper I know what the N1 is capable of, and everyone I know (literally) has a freaking iPhone so I know what that is capable of in the real world with real use.
Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
I know this probably seems like a dumb thread, but I've searched and I've heard all the comparisons for features, but I just want to hear your comparisons through actual real world experience with the device (even if you haven't use the iPhone. Oh, and I did see the CNET video of the iPhone vs N1 brawl and that definitely is helping me lean more and more towards the N1.
Any advice would be great. Just please don't turn this into a flame war, both phones are fantastic in their own ways.
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they're both amazing.
the nexus one is great. features and all. but after like three months, you kinda want your iphone back.. or i do at least.
depending on the 4th Generation iPhone, i may upgrade.
for the time being though, i LOVE my nexus one..
buy it if you are having any doubts. you wont be sorry.
all those issues only apply to a select few or to people that have major ocd..i did like my iphone but i didnt love it..i love my nexus one its a really great phone..i love that i can use it to tether too my laptop, use it as BRIGHT flash light, customize it too my liking, and not having to deal with iphone.
The one thing i did miss when i went back to android from my iphone was the games..iphone games are really really nice but that feeling has gone away since now alot of the 3d games on the iphone are being made for android.
the iphone is a great phone but the UI is sooooooooooo boring..i hated that 4x4 icon page on it.i love having widgets
so to sum it all up get a nexus one......and a ipad ahah
That's kind of my worry. I don't have that kind of money to throw around every couple of months, I don't want to invest all that money and in a couple of months just be jealous of all my friends with iPhones. But it is nice to hear you love your N1, the only apple fanboy thing I'm into is their operating system, anything outside of that I'm not really a huge fan of Apple (I stuck with WinMo just because I could customize it without hassle, unlike the iPhone which is a risk to brick every time you jailbreak it and there's a firmware update)
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That's kind of my worry. I don't have that kind of money to throw around every couple of months, I don't want to invest all that money and in a couple of months just be jealous of all my friends with iPhones. But it is nice to hear you love your N1, the only apple fanboy thing I'm into is their operating system, anything outside of that I'm not really a huge fan of Apple (I stuck with WinMo just because I could customize it without hassle, unlike the iPhone which is a risk to brick every time you jailbreak it and there's a firmware update)
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ya i love my macbook its the best thing that ever happened to me ahah..and honestly the chance of bricking and iphone while jailbreaking is slim to none but its a pain when apple is constantly sending you updates to unjailbreak it..trust me you will not be jealous of their iphones
bobdude5 said:
all those issues only apply to a select few or to people that have major ocd..i did like my iphone but i didnt love it..i love my nexus one its a really great phone..i love that i can use it to tether too my laptop, use it as BRIGHT flash light, customize it too my liking, and not having to deal with iphone.
The one thing i did miss when i went back to android from my iphone was the games..iphone games are really really nice but that feeling has gone away since now alot of the 3d games on the iphone are being made for android.
the iphone is a great phone but the UI is sooooooooooo boring..i hated that 4x4 icon page on it.i love having widgets
so to sum it all up get a nexus one......and a ipad ahah
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Awesome note with the games though, I don't play games on my phone much (sadly I'm horribly addicted to solitaire...haha) so I never really got into the games aspect, I only have one or two on my iPod Touch, most of the time I use the basic Apps which are also available on Android (twitter, facebook, shazaam, things like that). So that's a good thing to keep in mind.
I think one of my biggest worries is battery life. I don't work a job where I can charge my phone at all throughout the day, and there are times I leave at 8am and don't get home until 7pm or later, and I don't want to have to worry that my phone won't make it. My WinMo phone always ends at around 60% with standard/moderate use so I never have to worry about running home to get a charge if I get hung up after work.
idk man, by far the best phone i have ever owned so far. (may be contradicting to what i just said but i literally do not care)
features list is just BOOM!
battery is amazing for me. no dead pixels. saturated screen. bright flashlight (nexus one torch).. idk so many to list.
if you wanna buy RIGHT NOW. go for the nexus one,
but
if you can wait til July...... wait. becuase you may regret it if you dont have the money to buy the newest badass thing, like maybe the 4Gen iPhone, and new product from HTC, or anyone... really its all so hard to tell but if you can wait, i think that'd be in your best interest.
and the only thing i miss about the iphone thats slowly sucking me back in (happens about twice a year, ive owned all the iphones and sold them too haha) is the slickkkkkk UI. the LARGE community and the apps that actually work clean, and flawlessly. the iphones' transition between homescreens is definitely smooth as butter. nexus one? smooth as sand paper.. the ability to take screen shots on the iphone with ease... idk.. haha
nexus one last me a whole a day with heavy usage (texting, internet, games, music, calling) i disagree with the slick UI..iphone has a HORRIBLE UI in my opinion its too plain and transition is just as smooth..the community for android is also huge and screenshots is easy too..just shake the phone (shootme app on market)
bobdude5 said:
nexus one last me a whole a day with heavy usage (texting, internet, games, music, calling) i disagree with the slick UI..iphone has a HORRIBLE UI in my opinion its too plain and transition is just as smooth..the community for android is also huge and screenshots is easy too..just shake the phone (shootme app on market)
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slick as in quick and easy i guess?
and my nexus easily lasts me 1.5+ days under HEAVY usage.
cool i didnt know about that app! thanks!
although you dont need an app for the iphone haha
lol well i never really got a chance to test past 1.5 days lol i charge it when im go to bed but it usually has 40 percent at the time ( i got to bed like at 1-2 am lol)
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lol well i never really got a chance to test past 1.5 days lol i charge it when im go to bed but it usually has 40 percent at the time ( i got to bed like at 1-2 am lol)
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i totally agree.. just one night i forgot to plug it in. died later that day though (didnt necessarily let it "die" i just shut it off at like 2%)
My phone is simply perfect. No issues whatsoever, apparently I am one of the lucky Nexus owners. The only thing though, I do like about the iPhone more - is the UI polish. Apple is simply great at designing things. I'm ok though, as long as I have a Desire ROM. HTC Sense is quite nice.
Youll be happy with the nexus. It is great now and stands to realize much of its latent potential if Google wants it to. If you've had an iPhone you will definitely be disappointed in the touch screen. It's possible though that Android might be able to iron out some of the jittery, jumpiness of the nexus touch screen. But its a decent screen,those who have never used an iPhone think the nexus has the best touch screen there is so its definitely not a deal breaker.
Also, the nexus has higher resolution but I don't think there's and denying that the iPhone just looks crisper, especially the browser. But the nexus gpu definitely loads pages faster. I think I'm just rambling now...
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Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
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Multitasking
The fact that it's unique and NOT an iPhone that everyone and their mother has
Customization
Live wallpapers
High resolution (2.5 times the iPhone)
Flash Lite
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Also, the nexus has higher resolution but I don't think there's and denying that the iPhone just looks crisper, especially the browser.
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, what?
No denying that? I 10000% heartily deny that. Disagree to the nth power.
lostinbeta said:
So I am looking to purchase a Nexus One sometime within the next month or so. I'm an AT&T user and currently am using the FUZE with a custom ROM and running the Eclair XDAndroid build, which obviously doesn't compare to a real android device in any way, shape, or form. I'm completely aware of the features and abilities of both the iPhone and the N1, so this isn't really a feature comparison thread. On paper I know what the N1 is capable of, and everyone I know (literally) has a freaking iPhone so I know what that is capable of in the real world with real use.
Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
I know this probably seems like a dumb thread, but I've searched and I've heard all the comparisons for features, but I just want to hear your comparisons through actual real world experience with the device (even if you haven't use the iPhone. Oh, and I did see the CNET video of the iPhone vs N1 brawl and that definitely is helping me lean more and more towards the N1.
Any advice would be great. Just please don't turn this into a flame war, both phones are fantastic in their own ways.
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It all comes down to your personal preference. You can read all types of reviews and you'll see that Nexus One wins over iPhone 3GS. The features of the phone are outstanding. Just ask yourself what you want in your phone. If you want lots of applications, music, go for iPhone but if you want free applications, customizations, widgets, great camera, blazing fast web experience, go for Nexus One. Its just a matter of time before android applications touch the mark set by iPhone. Once you root your Nexus One, its going to be a whole world of possibilities....
For the issues you read about Nexus One, I want to tell you that the tinted screen is only present in the newer devices which would be very soon fixed by an update. The capacitive buttons work perfectly when pressed on the upper half of the button. The dust problem is present in a very small no. or hardwares and if you live in US, then you can call for a replacement if it happens with you.
Android would very soon be taken up by most of the mobile makers as its open sourced and free. I read somewhere that the phone companies who have taken up android OS have to pay very little in comparison to Windows Mobile.
So go for Nexus One, you wont be sorry....
Here's what I wrote in another forum regarding this question:
Having thought about it I realised that the choice to go for an N1 is easy if it fits your needs. Since it has been released all the focus has been on how it compares to the iphone. Understandable as apple set a high bar with many features such as the apps, the graphical physics and ease of use. The n1 more or less matches them and comparing many of these features doesn't get you far. They both are fantastic bits of hardware, great screens, amazing computing power, touchscreens etc. In some ways the N1 performs a bit better in others the iphone but the differences between them are small.
However I think the N1 has gone to a new level with features the iphone simply hasn't got. I don't have to open an app to access the information I want. My calender, agenda, weather, news, daily Bible reading, personal photo's, music player (and playlists) one touch dialling to favourite contacts (and many other thing I don't use) all run on my home pages. And here's where it moves mobile information on; all these widgets update automatically and wirelessly. I don't have to plug my phone into my computer to update my agenda, it happen without hassle right onto my homescreen. Furthermore these services are free - and yes I did pay for mobile me and no its not worth it.
Bottom line is that both the iphone and the N1 are great bits of kit, you won't notice many gains in function between either hardware as far as I can tell but the software has moved on from simply apps. Unfortunately the press just focus on the things that you can compare but the how can you compare widget on a N1 to nothing on the iphone? The N1 is in a different class to the iphone because it does things the iphone can't dream of doing, try to keep up apple!
Thank You everybody. Your advice has been helpful. I actually feel that the Android UI is nicer than the iPhone, to me the iPhone seems plain. Though I will admit that the iPhone is probably a little more user friendly, I don't mind the extra clicks on Android, and it's not like it's difficult to figure out by any stretch of the means. And it's good to know that the issues people are having are only occurring in a small percentage of devices, I was really worried that I would throw down that kind of money and have a jacked phone that only lasted me half a day and had a dusty mis-tinted screen...haha. Hopefully I'll be able to get my N1 ordered by the end of this month.
The next step would be rooting. I don't think I'll root it until after the warranty is up, but I don't know, I said the same thing about ROMing my FUZE and that didn't happen. Though on an unrelated question, how come so many N1 ROM threads don't have screenshots of the ROM. The ShootMe app works great, I use it on my FUZE with Eclair. It just seems like a big risk to install a ROM without knowing what you're supposed to be getting.
actually its less clicks for android lol you know with the widgets and all..with the iphone it takes four clicks to modify your brightness for android it takes one, it takes 3 clicks to turn on wifi and bluetooth on iphone and on android it takes one, it takes 4 clicks for gps on iphone and android 1, it takes 3 clicks to post something on facebook and 1 on android (same for myspace), it takes takes 2 clicks to search on iphone and none on android..you see my point lol
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The next step would be rooting. I don't think I'll root it until after the warranty is up, but I don't know, I said the same thing about ROMing my FUZE and that didn't happen. Though on an unrelated question, how come so many N1 ROM threads don't have screenshots of the ROM. The ShootMe app works great, I use it on my FUZE with Eclair. It just seems like a big risk to install a ROM without knowing what you're supposed to be getting.
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Warranty is 1 year, you will get hot feet by then. There should be desire screenshots around. CyanogenMod's UI is identical to stock, extra features being the selling point.
zachthemaster said:
slick as in quick and easy i guess?
and my nexus easily lasts me 1.5+ days under HEAVY usage.
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Are you running on the HTC Li-Ion battery or some new U-235 battery?
The Nexus One is great. I don't have complaints so far other than the tiny loudspeaker. Heard that the Desire ROM gives it a louder volume. Anyway, like someone has pointed out, if you can wait until June, I would wait. I think Apple sees the Android OS as a thread so they must be building something big for the iphone 4Gen. The iphone 4Gen will probably be better the Nexus One... BUT I am confident that the Nexus Two or whatever Google wants to release in the future will take over eventually
Not saying the Nexus One will lose to the 4Gen for sure. Remember FroYo and Flash 10 are coming to the Nexus One.
I was considering buying an Atrix a few days ago and decided I would be better off getting an iPhone 4 instead because of Android 2.2. Now before anyone erupts in a tizzy, I am not a fanboy of any system. I like them all. I have all three major systems now: WP7, iOS, Android. But Android, to me, is old ham. I have been using 2.2 (FroYo) on my HD2 for almost a year now. Currently I'm using an excellent DesireHD ROM on it. I know the ins and outs of Android well now and am very familiar with it. To buy an Android-specific phone would be kind of like a waste. I can have any Android build they put out and have already become accustomed to Gingerbread.
Back to the Atrix - I went to the local AT&T store and aw the Atrix on display. I've never been a fan of Motorola's versions of Android...their UI overlay. But I was definitely intrigued by the hardware itself. Having such excellent specs like dual-cpu and all, I was, for a time, tempted to sign a new contract for one. However, after playing with it, I'm glad I didn't get one. It has the common Moto UI and the form of the phone is very nice. But the build quality wasn't up to par with the iPhone. The UI exhibited the usual stiffness common to the Moto Android UI. The experience just felt like old ham. A "been-there-done-that" experience.
The Atrix is probably perfectly fine for people who aren't already tired of the usual Android experience. They would be the ones best suited to the Atrix. But the build quality leaves a little to be desired. Maybe it was just the particular display unit, but I didn't want to take a chance on it. That's one appeal with Apple products...especially the iPhone. You don't have to worry about what you'll get. You know it will be top-quality before you even handle it. It feels good going for a sure thing. And this time, I wasn't disappointed in a phone purchase. Had I gone for the Atrix, I would have felt ripped.
Personally Im not a fan of iPhone, been there done that, Im not going to mock you or give you a difficult time because of your decision as far as Im concerned its your decision no mine or anyone else's. Ultimately you need to do whats right for you, that being said I've also owned an iPhone and I gotta tell you I like Android far better. I have my own reasons of course, but of the 2 I'm happier with Android.
Your concerns are, in my opinion, 100% valid; That said, I currently have a Motorola Droid 2 which I had bought about a month ago - this is my first android device and thus far I am absolutely in love with the capabilities and open nature of the operating system but I agree on Motorola and their inability to design an intuitive UI...
I own an iPad running the latest version of the iOS and yes, that operating system provides a 100% smooth experience with less complaints than any other. However just like in the Mac vs. Windows war it all boils down to functionality vs. ease of use. Apple monitors and controls 100% of what goes in and out of the device unless the OS is modified but then the smooth experience goes down the drain - all that jailbroken fun software just craps on the stability and all of the sudden the device feels jittery.
I love to hack around with my devices, I am currently putting Android on my iPad in order to dual boot it depending on what I want at the time so for me the iOS devices are more of a nuisance because they are less hacker friendly but for any end-user the devices are amazing - another plus to the iOS devices is the absence of bloatware that all the Android phones (especially Motorola) seem to be packed with and of course the fact that it is not up to the carrier and/or manufacturer which version of the OS we have installed.
It's all a money making scheme and each side has major pros and cons - It's good that you went at it with some smarts and made the right choice! I for one love iPhoes, I love my iPad, and I love my Droid 2.
The iPhone is cleaner and more well-designed, both in hardware and software. However I can do more with Android. In my situation at least, with Android, there truly is an App For That.
perdurabo2 said:
The iPhone is cleaner and more well-designed, both in hardware and software. However I can do more with Android.
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One other thing that came to mind that I forgot to mention in my first post: The battery life.
One thing I know about Android is the low battery life among all handsets. BL varies from one Android handset to another, but they all seem to be on the low side. I knew that the Atrix would likely be even worse for BL due to the high-end hardware. With my iPhone, I am blown away by the BL.
For the last couple of years, I have been using various different phones and my HD2 was the earliest real-smartphone I had bought since selling my first-gen iPhone and going to T-Mobile. With WinMo, the BL was about as good...maybe not quite as good...as the 1st-gen iPhone I had. Using Android on it and getting involved with the Android forums and reading and learning about the pros and cons of Android, I saw a marked decrease in BL. But this was likely just a situation with Android on the HD2. I got into other Android handsets and continued to see low BL, though. The HTC Evo was the most prominent handset with excessively low BL. The T-Mobile MyTouch 4G was another and so on. A friend has the Galaxy S and isn't too pleased with his handset's BL. A lot of online reviewers comment about Android consistently needing larger batteries to compete with other OSs in BL.
I could probably get, at most, 2 days of life out of my HD2 in stand-by. That's the same for the other Android handests I'm familiar with. Since having my iPhone 4, the battery life has been nothing shy of astounding. I can play several games, listen to music for an hour or so, make calls, surf the web, download apps and do a lot on it in a days use and the battery life will be maybe slightly below a quarter down. If doing all of that on my other handsets, including my HD7, which runs WP7, I would already be charging them.
My estimation about the battery life on my iPhone would be such that I would make it 5 to 7 days without a charge on my way of using it. If I were to just leave it in stand-by, I would estimate the battery life would last up 2 weeks or longer.
Like I said, I am blown away by the iPhone 4 battery life.
I charge my droid every few hours.. I know the pain. I bring my charger with me every day at school and work - the bright side is that it charges from 10-100% in an hour, no joke.
Not sure if this is worthy of creating a new thread or not, but to each his own. iPhone build quality is great but the screen is too small. The device feels isolated and not connected in ways a google device is connected. You handled the phone, thats cool.... but put the phone through its paces and you'll see its pretty awesome. iPhone has lost its luster IMO.
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Not sure if this is worthy of creating a new thread or not, but to each his own. iPhone build quality is great but the screen is too small. The device feels isolated and not connected in ways a google device is connected. You handled the phone, thats cool.... but put the phone through its paces and you'll see its pretty awesome. iPhone has lost its luster IMO.
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I know that experience. I wish Apple would make 4.3" the minimum size for iPhones. And Android does a lot of things better...more efficiently...than Apple. My opinion is the UI is more intuitive on Android than it is on iPhone. But the quality and style of the iPhone experience is second to none. Apple's way of doing things is charming and unique. The whole experience has the same kind of appeal Harley Davidson motorcycles have.
Androids are definitely more connected. But, to my surprise, the iPhone has been supremely more connected than my 1st-gen iPhone ever was. I was amazed how well the email accounts setup and established all my folders and such.
If Google would just refine Android to where it got better BL and deal with the system fragmentation...a nightmare for them, I'm sure...Android could be up there in appeal with iOS. But the BL is the main and foremost thing they should deal with. If they solve that, they will be at the top. As it stands with the iPhone, it's a secure feeling knowing no matter which model you get through the years you will always have a quality, ever familiar, experience.
Since having my iPhone4, it has brought back the pleasing experiences I had with my first iPhone. It was like a "coming-home" feeling. It just feels so comfortable.
I must say these forums are very informative, have found out a lot about various devices and about the android system, now to the OP it is funny because this is the same way I feel but funny enough it the iPhone I have moved away from. I originally owned the G1 Day1 and was in love with the OS UI thought it would change things but at that time something was missing.
I then moved on to the I phone 3G and never looked back after that loved it, loved what I could do with it everything just seemed right. Then not to long ago my brother in law showed me his Droid X and wow I was impressed. Android has grow up and is on par or better (for me at least) than the iPhone. Now before hate starts coming my way I just want to make sure I still like iOS I own macbook, iPod and iPad. For me it just felt the same thing on the phone and just wanted to change.
Now the one thing that I have though about for a while now is if Apple has changed the look of the iphone (hardware) love the way it feels now and looks but what about the OS same look and feel since the 1st Gen. If they were to change things up a bit I might still own an iPhone.
Who knows though I'm to much a tech geek to stay with one lol lets see what Apple has up there sleeves for the iPhone5
I currently have both. I sold my GS3 when I picked up the Lumia 920 fully knowing I was going to order a Nexus 4. My plan was to compare the 2 and decide which one I wanted to keep. I am in a bit of a struggle there. Would love input from others that Have/had both.
My opinions:
Lumia 920
Pros:
Screen - Much more vivid and bright, but not overly saturated like that of GS3 etc... Also SEEMS bigger due to on screen buttons of Nexus 4
Battery life - I wasn't even coming close to using up the battery in a day with the Lumia. WIth the Nexus I can make it through a day, but definitely not as good.
Feel - The Lumia feels very solid in your hands. The weight actually adds a good amount of feel to the phone as well, doesn't feel like a toy.
Camera - The camera on the Lumia is amazing (for a cell phone camera). Pictures are great quality and are taken with ease and fast.
OS - Windows Phone 8 is super smooth and does everything I need in a smartphone. It's newer to me, and so less boring.
Cons:
Apps - Very limited app selection. I knew this going in to WP8 and I honestly can't say it is missing anything I NEED, I guess this is more of a boredom filler thing.
No Dev - Again knew this coming in, and again a boredom filler more than anything
Nexus 4
Pros:
Dev - Not quite yet, but will have loads of custom tweaks/roms/etc to play with
App Selection - Not nearly as much as iOS but certainly more than WP8.
Call quality - I find the Nexus 4 to have AMAZING call quality (when it has a good signal)
OS - 4.2 on this phone is SUPER quick. No lag to speak of (for a change), but I do have to say I find Android kind of stale and old to me.
Cons:
Build Quality: While overall quality is great, phone feels solid, super light (debatable if that is a plus or not, I don't necessarily care for the toy feel) however the Phone has something that rattles when you shake it. Their is a constant buzz from the earpiece (can't be heard in call). The back is SUPER slippery, will slide off anything.
Signal - Overall signal is lower than the last 4-5 phones i have owned (based on signal at my house). Also when holding the phone in certain ways I can physically WATCH the signal drop down, then move my hand and watch it go back up.
Screen - Screen quality is fantastic, but the colors could use some life. I am not talking super saturated AMOLED style, but these are closer to HTC Dull IMO. The screen is just as usable in the sun test though, so it is bright!
Plenty more of each I will try to add when they come to mind, just wanted to post a few of my thoughts and see if anyone else had factors to add or their opinion (Please only post your opinion if you have had both phones to compare).
This is JUST my opinion. Please do not take my opinion on either phone as FACT or offensively. If you have a different opinion please share it (respectfully) and I am all ears. I am not posting this as a flame or to say either phone is bad or better than the other, in fact that is the decision I am stuck on. Both are AMAZING phones, so again please do not take either as a phone bash.
I'm pretty sure the rattling is the accelerometer. I don't hear the screeching at all...maybe mine is lucky.
WP8 is nice...I wouldn't judge the switch. The 920 has good build quality, too.
I don't think it's enough to pry me away from the openness of a Nexus.
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Don't you care about the price?
You can buy two N4 for one N920.
The N920 Display is close to the N4. A little better than N4, but not as good as the fantastic OneX LCD2.
I'd also love to buy a Nokia again, but well.. N920.price > (N7.price + N4.price)
Edit: The rattling part with my N4 seems to be the camera-lens-system. The speaker only makes sounds when it is asked for
I've used a 920 and while it's an amazing piece of hardware, WP8 kills it for me.
I have none of the symptoms you described on your N4, no rattle, no buzzing from earpiece, or signal issues.
Overall, the determining factor will be first which ecosystem would you rather use, then which piece of hardware you want.
If WP8 is the answer to the first question then the 920 is the easiest choice, if it's Android and you aren't happy with the N4, look at the One X+, SGS 3, and Note 2.
ElectricAndi said:
Don't you care about the price?
You can buy two N4 for one N920.
The N920 Display is close to the N4. A little better than N4, but not as good as the fantastic OneX LCD2.
I'd also love to buy a Nokia again, but well.. N920.price > (N7.price + N4.price)
Edit: The rattling part with my N4 seems to be the camera-lens-system. The speaker only makes sounds when it is asked for
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I already own both. I paid the same price for both. both sell for roughly the same amount on ebay right now. So price is pretty much a wash.
All those windows phones are inferior even compared to apple
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All those windows phones are inferior even compared to apple
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Your basing that on? Bring me some facts and I'll gladly have a debate with you.
I strongly disagree, having actually OWNED one, as well as many iOS and Android devices. Not that I think it's better than Android, but I definitely without question find it superior to iOS (to me).
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Your basing that on? Bring me some facts and I'll gladly have a debate with you.
I strongly disagree, having actually OWNED one, as well as many iOS and Android devices. Not that I think it's better than Android, but I definitely without question find it superior to iOS (to me).
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I hate apple too just saying the success of it, i think windows phone sales compared to android are significantly lower, ita a failing sector in the phone market
You think the nexus 4 is light and toy like? This thing feels like a tank and feels very solid.
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Android feel stale and old to you?
Man you really should stop using Android and buy that Nokia.
The point of Nexus 4's stock interface is for YOU to CUSTOMIZE FOR YOURSELF. If you prefer manufacturer to do that for you, you got the wrong device.
The Lumia is a flop. It's fat, overweight, and runs an OS with no apps.
I love my Nexus 4, a lot. BUT!!!!!! A friend of mine texted me about a week ago and told me he just got the lumia 920, he said its an AMAZING phone and he is blown away by it. ( he's a big android guy, matter of fact he got me to use android). Told me how the camera is amazing, the screen is insane and the fluidity is second to none. Also the predictive keyboard is excellent. THEN!!!! Today one of my coworker who is a big ISHEEP ( but a smart one lol) told me that one of his friend got the lumia and he told me the screen is just too good, he said he was super impressed by it although he said he doesn't like W8. So now I'm gonna get it as secondary phone for sure. Nexus 4 will still be my main phone.
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I have both, and what I can say about the 920 is what I'd say when owning an iPhone too (swapped out a 4s for it): I can handle WP8 & iOS because they're always secondary to Android for me. Exclusively I'd struggle with either, mainly due to lack of apps in WP8, and quite a bit overall in iOS. (The app quality in WP8 isn't poor, it's just the lack of a few are killing me, ie TuneIn - that one damn Swiss station...)
As a second device for me, the Lumia has battery for days - 26h off charger with moderate use the other day and it was at 60% - is built like some concoction designed to protect a tank, and the camera is advanced. Plus it's a simple, well-designed, incredibly smooth, handsome OS which focuses on productivity. And truthfully, for times when I don't need two phones, I often want one I'm inclined to use looking at the screen less - that's the 920. More a tool to the toy, in ways, that is Android for me personally. When I got the 920 I was planning on doing the same as the OP, choosing one, and I went with the 920 initially because I didn't want to be fiddling around with the N4, taking time to flash ROMs, research which kernel is best, figure out why this minor tweak has suddenly borked my entire mobile life, etc, when I'm supposed to be achieving productivity on the level of a respectable member of society. Then I got the N4 in my hands. Phenomenal piece. Not a chance that was going back. When I switch from one to the other, the Lumia feels slow in comparison, almost labored; and that's no slight on it, merely a compliment to the N4's screaming speed. So now it's both.
But in terms of real world use - and I live in a big city - the Lumia gets more day-to-day action for me, in part because I don't have a case for the N4 yet, and I'm terrified of flopping it out of my jacket pocket watching the shards spill across the pavement. I don't baby it, and it's just easier to put somewhere and not worry whether or not the 0.5 degrees of incline is going to send the lubricated glass back hurtling to the floor. I don't worry about the 920. I do about the N4. I also get concerned if I'm out somewhere and the battery is going to die, so I baby the use of my phone under these circumstances; will happen with the N4, won't with the 920. For me, the Lumia sort of ticks a "peace of mind" box. I can throw it in my pocket off the charger and walk out the door, not wondering if it'll last through the night or whether or not it might slap up against something on the subway and shatter, etc.
If it was one or the other and I had both in my hands for a few hours before having to give one back, it'd be no contest: the N4, if my initial concerns about the battery are substantial. I think it's a device of remarkably more potential with a wider variety of uses. However, I think the question to ask is not necessarily which phone is better, but which one best fits your life? People use their devices differently.
For the record, I love having both. Couldn't be happier; what the Nexus 4 gives me - the power, speed, apps, customization, etc. - is complemented perfectly by the 920's strengths - battery, camera, durability, simplicity, LTE, etc. As a pairing of phones, and I've owned a lot of different pairings, this is by far my favorite, and one I'll keep a very long time - which is rare. They're almost the perfect complements in my world. Now if someone could take the best of all these traits and make one single device, they could sell it for four figures on contract and watch the lines on release day stretch counties.
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Android feel stale and old to you?
Man you really should stop using Android and buy that Nokia.
The point of Nexus 4's stock interface is for YOU to CUSTOMIZE FOR YOURSELF. If you prefer manufacturer to do that for you, you got the wrong device.
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Man you should really learn how to read.
First of all, I own both (as stated)
Second of all, I am sorry I put your panties in a bunch that I find Android getting stale FOR ME, it's my opinion. Get over it.
I never said anything about not wanting to customize the interface, The main reason I even like Android is the ability to load custom roms and tweak things myself. I never said otherwise.
When you have something valid to add come back.
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I love my Nexus 4, a lot. BUT!!!!!! A friend of mine texted me about a week ago and told me he just got the lumia 920, he said its an AMAZING phone and he is blown away by it. ( he's a big android guy, matter of fact he got me to use android). Told me how the camera is amazing, the screen is insane and the fluidity is second to none. Also the predictive keyboard is excellent. THEN!!!! Today one of my coworker who is a big ISHEEP ( but a smart one lol) told me that one of his friend got the lumia and he told me the screen is just too good, he said he was super impressed by it although he said he doesn't like W8. So now I'm gonna get it as secondary phone for sure. Nexus 4 will still be my main phone.
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Good info. That about says how I feel about the Lumia. Will be curious to see how you feel if/when you do get one.
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I have both, and what I can say about the 920 is what I'd say when owning an iPhone too (swapped out a 4s for it): I can handle WP8 & iOS because they're always secondary to Android for me. Exclusively I'd struggle with either, mainly due to lack of apps in WP8, and quite a bit overall in iOS. (The app quality in WP8 isn't poor, it's just the lack of a few are killing me, ie TuneIn - that one damn Swiss station...)
As a second device for me, the Lumia has battery for days - 26h off charger with moderate use the other day and it was at 60% - is built like some concoction designed to protect a tank, and the camera is advanced. Plus it's a simple, well-designed, incredibly smooth, handsome OS which focuses on productivity. And truthfully, for times when I don't need two phones, I often want one I'm inclined to use looking at the screen less - that's the 920. More a tool to the toy, in ways, that is Android for me personally. When I got the 920 I was planning on doing the same as the OP, choosing one, and I went with the 920 initially because I didn't want to be fiddling around with the N4, taking time to flash ROMs, research which kernel is best, figure out why this minor tweak has suddenly borked my entire mobile life, etc, when I'm supposed to be achieving productivity on the level of a respectable member of society. Then I got the N4 in my hands. Phenomenal piece. Not a chance that was going back. When I switch from one to the other, the Lumia feels slow in comparison, almost labored; and that's no slight on it, merely a compliment to the N4's screaming speed. So now it's both.
But in terms of real world use - and I live in a big city - the Lumia gets more day-to-day action for me, in part because I don't have a case for the N4 yet, and I'm terrified of flopping it out of my jacket pocket watching the shards spill across the pavement. I don't baby it, and it's just easier to put somewhere and not worry whether or not the 0.5 degrees of incline is going to send the lubricated glass back hurtling to the floor. I don't worry about the 920. I do about the N4. I also get concerned if I'm out somewhere and the battery is going to die, so I baby the use of my phone under these circumstances; will happen with the N4, won't with the 920. For me, the Lumia sort of ticks a "peace of mind" box. I can throw it in my pocket off the charger and walk out the door, not wondering if it'll last through the night or whether or not it might slap up against something on the subway and shatter, etc.
If it was one or the other and I had both in my hands for a few hours before having to give one back, it'd be no contest: the N4, if my initial concerns about the battery are substantial. I think it's a device of remarkably more potential with a wider variety of uses. However, I think the question to ask is not necessarily which phone is better, but which one best fits your life? People use their devices differently.
For the record, I love having both. Couldn't be happier; what the Nexus 4 gives me - the power, speed, apps, customization, etc. - is complemented perfectly by the 920's strengths - battery, camera, durability, simplicity, LTE, etc. As a pairing of phones, and I've owned a lot of different pairings, this is by far my favorite, and one I'll keep a very long time - which is rare. They're almost the perfect complements in my world. Now if someone could take the best of all these traits and make one single device, they could sell it for four figures on contract and watch the lines on release day stretch counties.
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Great info thank you. Your thoughts are very similar to my take. I just don't know that I can justify having 2 devices, so I am trying to make a choice that has turned out to be harder than I thought it would be
crawlgsx said:
Man you should really learn how to read.
First of all, I own both (as stated)
Second of all, I am sorry I put your panties in a bunch that I find Android getting stale FOR ME, it's my opinion. Get over it.
I never said anything about not wanting to customize the interface, The main reason I even like Android is the ability to load custom roms and tweak things myself. I never said otherwise.
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I don't know what you mean by stale. If you like the ability to load custom ROMs, but complain when you have the most moddable Nexus line in your hand, you have some serious problems buddy. If you have some deeply locked down devices then your complain might be valid.
Apparently you never used a Windows Phone before so you feel fresh. I will see how you comment on your Windows Phone after the "honey moon" period is over.
Also, when you post your opinion publicly but don't expect others to comment on it (valid or not), good for you!
May I introduce you to Neowin.net, where all M$ fanboys hangout, so you can have more help with your Nokia.
BTW, I hangout there, too.
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I don't know what you mean by stale. If you like the ability to load custom ROMs, but complain when you have the most moddable Nexus line in your hand, you have some serious problems buddy. If you have some deeply locked down devices then your complain might be valid.
Apparently you never used a Windows Phone before so you feel fresh. I will see how you comment on your Windows Phone after the "honey moon" period is over.
Also, when you post your opinion publicly but don't expect others to comment on it (valid or not), good for you!
May I introduce you to Neowin.net, where all M$ fanboys hangout, so you can have more help with your Nokia.
BTW, I hangout there, too.
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I mean I have just gotten kind of bored with Android, as in its the SSDD for me. It's not like I haven't owned a few. It's not meant to be offensive to Android, this is a personal problem lol.
My last windows phone is the first on my sig . Been a long time. I had no interest in it when WP7 came out compared to Android but now that I have had Android for a while I picked it up just to try it out and I was pleasantly surprised at how well it runs and functions.
I am not looking for help with either, nor do I expect everyone to see my point of view. All opinions (when stated as such, and not argumentative or stated like it is fact) are very much welcome.
I am not a fanboy of any company OR Operating System, mobile or desktop. I try them all, and I pick what I find the best for ME at the time. I will never understand why some people find the need to attach themselves to one option but to each their own. When it comes down to it, neither of these phones will be in my possession for more than a few months until I get bored with them.
I was just curious what others thought, nothing more, nothing less.
And you may be very well correct on the honeymoon period statement. Part of the enticement to the Lumia IS that WP8 is new to me.(hardware aside) but I will grow bored with it in no time, no doubt.
I fully respect anyone who comes in here with the opinion that I am crazy/stupid/etc for even considering the Lumia over the Nexus, that is fine. I would appreciate some opinions/facts on why, and not fiction about how bad WP8 is (especially if you have never owned one, or at least spent some time with one).
n4 £279
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if the n4 was closer in price to the 920 it would be a much harder decision. but it isn't. so it isn't. for what you get for your £279, n4 wins hands down.
Well i had android for many years.. but ... it never feels like its it, dont know how to say it.
I have a Lumia 920 now and its bloody awesome, so smooth, never lags, and the appstore is getting bigger everyday.
All my apps i used on Android are in the WP store for me.
Dont get me wrong Android is a great OS, but the changes in versions never live quite up to it.
It's substantially heavier, the camera isn't as good, the build feels cheaper, and it's full of Verizon bloat. Maybe I'm being picky, but I had great hopes for this phone and it just leaves me with a feeling of "meh". I'm still waiting for an iphone 6 killer, and it hasn't happened yet. Anyone else feel let down by their new Turbo?
Still 1 million times better than an iPhone
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It's substantially heavier, the camera isn't as good, the build feels cheaper, and it's full of Verizon bloat. Maybe I'm being picky, but I had great hopes for this phone and it just leaves me with a feeling of "meh". I'm still waiting for an iphone 6 killer, and it hasn't happened yet. Anyone else feel let down by their new Turbo?
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The only letdowns the Turbo has in my opinion can and will be fixed via software updates. It's definitely not for everyone but it doesn't feel cheap. As for the iPhone 6: a joke. Beyond Apple's support and a few things it is good at (camera, simplicity), it's far behind. I'll say what I say to my friends about the iPhone, "if you ever wish it had 'that' one feature or wish it did 'this' better, you're an idiot for buying it over an android phone."
Seriously theres is no and there wont be an iphone killer. People need to get that through their heads. If iOS was adopted by other companies then yes there will be an iphone killer but thatll never happen. Android and iOS are on different levels.
Why aren't you on an iPhone then? Just wondering.
There's no such thing as an Iphone killer IMO. Either you like one OS ecosystem, or another. If you like iOS, no android phone will be better, and if you like Windows, then iOS and Android will feel inferior. Compare apples to apples, not oranges.
As js0uth said, "an iPhone killer" is a pipe dream at this point. Eventually there will be one, but that will not likely be any time soon. I'm also wondering why someone who likes iPhones bought this phone instead?
BTW, I'm definitely not disappointed in my new Turbo and neither is my wife.
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It's substantially heavier, the camera isn't as good, the build feels cheaper, and it's full of Verizon bloat. Maybe I'm being picky, but I had great hopes for this phone and it just leaves me with a feeling of "meh". I'm still waiting for an iphone 6 killer, and it hasn't happened yet. Anyone else feel let down by their new Turbo?
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Dont you already know? all the iPhones are just too good, especially the iPhone 3GS. you cant beat apples multitasking, new special features like widgets, custom scripting and automation, camera quality, battery life, and the list goes on.
wait until the iPhone 7 comes out with custom home screens.... imagine live moving home screens with widgets! blowing my mine just thinking about it.
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It's substantially heavier, the camera isn't as good, the build feels cheaper, and it's full of Verizon bloat. Maybe I'm being picky, but I had great hopes for this phone and it just leaves me with a feeling of "meh". I'm still waiting for an iphone 6 killer, and it hasn't happened yet. Anyone else feel let down by their new Turbo?
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Agreed. It's simply a moto x with a huge battery which isn't bad but the battery life isn't very good at all. Camera is Motorola bad like every one before. You can't even take a picture of a child moving without blurred results. I traded for the z3v and have a great camera now and better battery life. The turbo was way overhyped. Not a good buy.
From 99% of the smartphone market share to 20%. IPhone killer? That war is over, and has been for a while. Now its more of what you prefer.
But since we're on the subject, besides a better camera what does the iphone do better than the Droid?
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Camera is Motorola bad like every one before. You can't even take a picture of a child moving without blurred results. I traded for the z3v and have a great camera now and better battery life.
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I thought the Z3v and Turbo used the same Sony camera. Is this not true?
If so and you really like the Z3v camera sounds like the Turbo camera could be improved with software updates.
I have been a moto fan and buyer for years and every time they come out with a new phone the camera is bad. Seriously, try to take a picture with the turbo of anything that isn't 100% still. It is terrible. And after every release the discussions of software fixes begin. This happens with every new moto phone. Trust me, moto cameras are terrible and always have been. Not to mention that I am already getting better battery life with my z3v. Not saying that the turbo is bad but it is by no means the best at battery life or camera. I traded my turbo because of the camera and also the wifi is very slow. The slow wifi thing is pretty bad.
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It has a substantially bigger battery. This is kind of an expected tradeoff. If you expected anything else, then you were being unrealistic.
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the camera isn't as good
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What don't you like about the camera? I've looked at still shots side by side, and I actually think the Turbo looks better. The iPhone has the edge in video, particularly as regards the slomo mode, but that's really just a gimmick anyway.
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Cheaper than a flimsy aluminum thing that bends in your pocket? Try to bend the Turbo in your pocket! It comes across as a solid (very solid) quality product, just not as flashy as the iPhone. Flashy has always been Apples thing "ooh shiny".
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Here I actually agree with you, and I was rather disappointed given the MotoX's reputation as being a "near nexus" device. The stock image uses up A LOT of space because of all the bloated crap that's installed I will never use (a ton of little red apps Named Verizon - something, backup assitance, etc. etc., preinstalled NFL app, preinstalled Amazon crap, etc. etc..
When will they actually learn that what people actually want is a phone with absolutely 0 carrier branding, and absolutely 0 carrier modification to software.
An android phone should come with the google OS and unmodified gapps, an unmodified launcher and that's it. Nothing else should be installed on it.
Don't get me wrong, many manufacturer apps are actually useful, such as Moto Assist, but make installing them an OPTION not a requirement. That being said, I have never seen a carrier app that was useful. They need to be gone ASAP.
I went through an uninstalled what I could (very little, why the hell do they do this?) cleared and disabled the rest (anything with Verizon in the name, anything with Amazon in the name, anything cloud/backup/sync/whatever) which makes the device better, but it still wastes storage space.
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Maybe I'm being picky, but I had great hopes for this phone and it just leaves me with a feeling of "meh". I'm still waiting for an iphone 6 killer, and it hasn't happened yet. Anyone else feel let down by their new Turbo?
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Bloat aside, I like my Turbo. And comparing it negatively to an iPhone is just silly. Apple can keep their shiny polished turds that lock you into a closed ecosystem. I'd go without a phone before going Apple.
IMHO, the hardware and physical design make the Turbo the best phone on the market right now, bar none. There are some software shortcomings - however.
Give me Advanced Calling with VoLTE, Lollipop, root and an unlocked boot loader and this phone is the best thing since sliced bread.
Thanks for the pointless post. Look, you either like iOS or Android. You can't compare the two, they are entirely different. iPhone is iPhone, you can't change it, only Apple has that power. Android is available on an almost endless amount of options, you have a choice. Don't like the Turbo? Choose something else... Don't like the iPhone? Well... ya.
Get over it.
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Thanks for the pointless post. Look, you either like iOS or Android. You can't compare the two, they are entirely different. iPhone is iPhone, you can't change it, only Apple has that power. Android is available on an almost endless amount of options, you have a choice. Don't like the Turbo? Choose something else... Don't like the iPhone? Well... ya.
Get over it.
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Thanks for your pointless comment. Actually, I use and like both iOS and Android, so your argument is invalid. My point is that for a "premium" flagship phone it doesn't feel very premium.
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Thanks for your pointless comment. Actually, I use and like both iOS and Android, so your argument is invalid. My point is that for a "premium" flagship phone it doesn't feel very premium.
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My comments are far from invalid. Maybe for you specifically. However, I offer more facts over opinion. So, to each their own.
But to further elaborate, you're once again comparing two very different products and/or materials. Metal vs Metal, Kevlar, and Nylon. 750/1080p IPS vs 1440 UHD AMOLED, and both have best chipsets/components available in their categories currently.
I fail to see that lack of "premium" quality here.
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Thanks for the pointless post. Look, you either like iOS or Android. You can't compare the two, they are entirely different. iPhone is iPhone, you can't change it, only Apple has that power. Android is available on an almost endless amount of options, you have a choice. Don't like the Turbo? Choose something else... Don't like the iPhone? Well... ya.
Get over it.
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My comments are far from invalid. Maybe for you specifically. However, I offer more facts over opinion. So, to each their own.
But to further elaborate, you're once again comparing two very different products and/or materials. Metal vs Metal, Kevlar, and Nylon. 750/1080p IPS vs 1440 UHD AMOLED, and both have best chipsets/components available in their categories currently.
I fail to see that lack of "premium" quality here.
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Difference of opinion I guess. Some people like Ford, some Like Chevy. But claiming that you can't compare them because they are different is just a joke. They are both smart phones and are in direct competition with each other. To me the turbo looks and feels cheap and the iphone looks premium. Spec wise they might be similar on the inside, but that doesn't change how the phone looks and feels when I hold it.
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Difference of opinion I guess. Some people like Ford, some Like Chevy. But claiming that you can't compare them because they are different is just a joke. They are both smart phones and are in direct competition with each other. To me the turbo looks and feels cheap and the iphone looks premium. Spec wise they might be similar on the inside, but that doesn't change how the phone looks and feels when I hold it.
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Of course it is difference of opinion. But the Turbo isn't made out of pure plastic like most Android phones. In fact, I can guarantee you both iPhone 6 models will bend, break, or fail well before a Turbo due to material/design build. I'd like to get your opinion on premium quality after a proper drop, water, or durability test. Not to mention the fact Verizon covers the first screen replacement on the Turbo. Good luck getting that with your iPhone 6.
In terms of comparison, my point is more the fact Android is open sourced. With Android the possibilities are endless. iOS is closed and controlled solely by Apple. Sure, you can compare the ecosystem, but that is about it.
You really want to use Ford vs Chevy as an Android to iOS comparison? OK, I'll bite. Let's say Android is Ford, iOS is Chevy.
With Chevy, you get only one "engine" and you cannot alter this engine in any way. You can choose between two different colors and two different size models. Those are your choices, they won't change, unless Chevy says otherwise.
With Ford, you are given an "engine" and you can alter this engine any way you choose. Keep it stock, super charge it, minimize it, optimize it, options are endless. You can chose from an unlimited amount of options, because in this case, your engine can be place into anything you want. You have the option to choose. You are not forced to stick with two models and one engine.
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Of course it is difference of opinion. But the Turbo isn't made out of pure plastic like most Android phones. In fact, I can guarantee you both iPhone 6 models will bend, break, or fail well before a Turbo due to material/design build. I'd like to get your opinion on premium quality after a proper drop, water, or durability test. Not to mention the fact Verizon covers the first screen replacement on the Turbo. Good luck getting that with your iPhone 6.
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Meh, to me those are unimportant because I never drop my phone, and I've never broken a screen. So I could care less about "durability". I prefer a premium feel when I hold my phone, which happens every day.
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With Chevy, you get only one "engine" and you cannot alter this engine in any way. You can choose between two different colors and two different size models. Those are your choices, they won't change, unless Chevy says otherwise.
With Ford, you are given an "engine" and you can alter this engine any way you choose. Keep it stock, super charge it, minimize it, optimize it, options are endless. You can chose from an unlimited amount of options, because in this case, your engine can be place into anything you want. You have the option to choose. You are not forced to stick with two models and one engine.
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But at the end of the day they are both vehicles that drive you places. Just because you can tinker with one engine doesn't make it 'better'. It just makes it customizable. Don't get me wrong, I value that about android, but It doesn't make it 'better'. It makes it different.
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Meh, to me those are unimportant because I never drop my phone, and I've never broken a screen. So I could care less about "durability". I prefer a premium feel when I hold my phone, which happens every day. .
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Sounds to me you just like a cold metal feel in your hand. I bet you have a case on your iPhone and don't even notice the metal.
I'm done here. Kicking a dead horse.
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Sounds to me you just like a cold metal feel in your hand. I bet you have a case on your iPhone and don't even notice the metal.
I'm done here. Kicking a dead horse.
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Nope, wrong again. I never use a case, and thats my point. I value phones that feel premium and for me the Turbo lacks that feel.
Hello fellow smartphone users,
Just something that annoys me, feel like talking about it.
My contract with my mobile provider is over and I can now choose a new contract with a phone
I own a LG G3 since may 2014. I swapped my G2 for the G3 just because of the external SD. Other changes were minimal, but the SD was a must for me.
Now normally you would be happy when your contract is over and you get to choose a new phone, but honestly I'm disappointed. The G3 is a great phone, works very well and has all things one can expect in a todays flagship phones.
Smartphone innovation has stopped. What do the new "flagships" even have to offer that would improve smartphone use? It feels like they desperatly try to make up new things like ow lets add another GB of RAM. Make the phone bigger so there's more room for that extra GB, make it look a little different and sell it as the next big thing.
Right now I feel like waiting till they release new phones like idk the S7 or G5, but honestly there's absolutely no need for a newer phone.
What do you guys think?
Im gonna switch back to iphone ..durability is outstanding and way better than my g3 ..also I have to order a new camera lens due to scratching screen 10$ not a big deal but hey ...also this lag get me to a point of no return ..
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mathsmart said:
Im gonna switch back to iphone ..durability is outstanding and way better than my g3 ..also I have to order a new camera lens due to scratching screen 10$ not a big deal but hey ...also this lag get me to a point of no return ..
send from LG G3
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With the amount of smashed screens I've seen on iPhones. I'd say durability is outstandingly bad.
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I think that's a really interesting point. Just got my HTC One M7 back to work to fiddle around with it a little bit and it performs sooo well even compared to my G3 (that's running AOSP). There is a Full HD screen and an all metal body - pretty much standard by now for many OEMs. 2013 was in general a major step forward in the smartphone territory, the last 2 waves of flagship were not even close to being so game-changing.
papaluigi said:
I think that's a really interesting point. Just got my HTC One M7 back to work to fiddle around with it a little bit and it performs sooo well even compared to my G3 (that's running AOSP). There is a Full HD screen and an all metal body - pretty much standard by now for many OEMs. 2013 was in general a major step forward in the smartphone territory, the last 2 waves of flagship were not even close to being so game-changing.
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exactly. It's like they're out of innovation. It seems main points of smartphone innovation used to be better screens, faster processor for a smoother and faster user experience and thinner body. But it seems those points are perfected in some way. Higher resolution screens wouldn't do any good. The used software is fast enough and gets all the processing power it needs. Overall graphics are awesome. GPU power can always be improved ofcourse but c'mon who even wants to play call of duty or fallout 4 on a smartphone. And phones are thin enough. Only innovation on battery power would make a significant difference, but that requires entire new technology which isn't developed yet.
At this point smartphones are handheld computers as well as telecommunications devices. What is new in computers from year to year? Hardware. So what do you get with a new laptop this year vs one from last year? faster processors, more memory, SSDs are so 2 years ago, touchscreens more so, Phones, like computers, for the most part 2 year old computers are still working fine so sure, you can get along just fine with a 1 or 2 year old phone. Hardware is in control of the manufacturer, software provided by Google...so new phones from year to year will have better cameras, more RAM, more storage, faster processors, and with new developments in display technology, will be more durable (providing some manufacturers finally drop the idea of glass encased cases..SMH).
Well its kinda off topic but the new Windows mobile with its continuüm is a innovation ithink and a Iris scanner.
But for Android not so much ithink?
well, from my point of view the things i say:
If you are a geek, if you like to be "on top of tecnology" is obvious you want the newer phones, the most talked in the moment but you have a price for that and if you dont care about so go ahead!
If you are satisfied with your device and dont care about evolution, newer things and think "well, is all the same but only with 2 or 3 things different" then i say: stick with your actual phone!
- All depends of your need's or your brain! For me i dont care about better or worst, i have a G3, i love the device and i will keep it as long as i can, and now i will buy a G Flex2 just because the curvature and for SD810 (i know is a problematic processor but i dont care, i want to try it!) and for the experience to have a curved screen! For me LG are my thing, i cant move to other brand, and if you see my history with phones you know i am a LG and Sony user. I dont go for Sony anymore because they dont do it so well as LG does.
I love LG phones because i get in love with back keys, i cant live without them now, and get back to a phone without them is like to go to stone age!
I like the UI of LG, i cant live without IR Blaster now, is so usefull and because my job is eletronics, i work a lot with TV's, STB's and other things and have a IR Blaster to keep me away for the Remotes and have a phone to do that things is a must for me!
It's my opinion, and i will go for G Flex2 because theyr ridiculous price right now (i can order it for 260€ ~280$) and for the hardware they offer worth a lot the price!
I dont go for apple products because i think they dont worth the price they want for theyr products, i think is a steal to consumers because every year they launch a different one with 1 or 2 things different but the apple users brain says "i have to get the last because i am on top of the tecnologic world" - shut up guy's iphone's is only for status, i cant see other thing from people who buy that thing!
If anyone give me one iphone i sell it as fast i could and for the price i get for it i will buy 2 LG phones, and with better specs...and for sure i will keep the change!
copy2050 said:
well, from my point of view the things i say:
If you are a geek, if you like to be "on top of tecnology" is obvious you want the newer phones, the most talked in the moment but you have a price for that and if you dont care about so go ahead!
If you are satisfied with your device and dont care about evolution, newer things and think "well, is all the same but only with 2 or 3 things different" then i say: stick with your actual phone!
- All depends of your need's or your brain! For me i dont care about better or worst, i have a G3, i love the device and i will keep it as long as i can, and now i will buy a G Flex2 just because the curvature and for SD810 (i know is a problematic processor but i dont care, i want to try it!) and for the experience to have a curved screen! For me LG are my thing, i cant move to other brand, and if you see my history with phones you know i am a LG and Sony user. I dont go for Sony anymore because they dont do it so well as LG does.
I love LG phones because i get in love with back keys, i cant live without them now, and get back to a phone without them is like to go to stone age!
I like the UI of LG, i cant live without IR Blaster now, is so usefull and because my job is eletronics, i work a lot with TV's, STB's and other things and have a IR Blaster to keep me away for the Remotes and have a phone to do that things is a must for me!
It's my opinion, and i will go for G Flex2 because theyr ridiculous price right now (i can order it for 260€ ~280$) and for the hardware they offer worth a lot the price!
I dont go for apple products because i think they dont worth the price they want for theyr products, i think is a steal to consumers because every year they launch a different one with 1 or 2 things different but the apple users brain says "i have to get the last because i am on top of the tecnologic world" - shut up guy's iphone's is only for status, i cant see other thing from people who buy that thing!
If anyone give me one iphone i sell it as fast i could and for the price i get for it i will buy 2 LG phones, and with better specs...and for sure i will keep the change!
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Well, I am a tech guy, and I have always wanted the best. Not just with technology, but also with musical instruments(i'm a musician). I need to have the best guitar, I need to have the best amplifier, I need to have the best pc, graphics card, and ofcourse phone. I have always had the latest flagships since smartphones became a thing. But now it doesn't feel like that. I would need to spend some extra money on my new contract and pay about €200 intitial costs, but for the first time it feels like it's not worth it, but the "need for the best" is still there, believe me
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Well, I am a tech guy, and I have always wanted the best. Not just with technology, but also with musical instruments(i'm a musician). I need to have the best guitar, I need to have the best amplifier, I need to have the best pc, graphics card, and ofcourse phone. I have always had the latest flagships since smartphones became a thing. But now it doesn't feel like that. I would need to spend some extra money on my new contract and pay about €200 intitial costs, but for the first time it feels like it's not worth it, but the "need for the best" is still there, believe me
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you have to choise, if you want to trow money to junk or to spend less but have your needs only!
i know your point, and i am the same but i never feel "love" for apple, i dont think theyr products atractive, and never think they are high end...because they arent!
copy2050 said:
you have to choise, if you want to trow money to junk or to spend less but have your needs only!
i know your point, and i am the same but i never feel "love" for apple, i dont think theyr products atractive, and never think they are high end...because they arent!
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yeah i'm not talking about apple. Apple is out of the question. Extremely overpriced, retarded company charging 100 extra for extra storage, purposely excluding a 32gb version. Breaks to easy and is build to last 2 years. There are always battery problems, which can not be removed ofcourse because, you know, **** you, you don't get a removable battery or SD slot, or the possability to replace parts. Need a new screen?, better buy a whole new phone. My parents actually got the advice to buy a new ipad when their new one didn't start anymore. When I got it in my hands, I pushed some buttons and it seemed it was only in recovery mode.
nonono apple is not even an option, don't even get me started on their purposely locked software with retarded compatability for pretty much anything
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yeah i'm not talking about apple. Apple is out of the question. Extremely overpriced, retarded company charging 100 extra for extra storage, purposely excluding a 32gb version. Breaks to easy and is build to last 2 years. There are always battery problems, which can not be removed ofcourse because, you know, **** you, you don't get a removable battery or SD slot, or the possability to replace parts. Need a new screen?, better buy a whole new phone. My parents actually got the advice to buy a new ipad when their new one didn't start anymore. When I got it in my hands, I pushed some buttons and it seemed it was only in recovery mode.
nonono apple is not even an option, don't even get me started on their purposely locked software with retarded compatability for pretty much anything
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ok, now i get cleared about what you want! well...all depends of the offer your network offers, if you want a update better wait 1 or 2 months because V10 is out there and some networks will have it, or wait more and get the G5 wich i can tell is the bomb for the new year, i belive SD820 be inside it!
honestly i think smart phones have hit that 'ceiling' in evolution, same way dumb phones have hit the ceiling right before the iphones changed up everything (didnt really change but more like pivot in a different direction with more overhead evolution).
Manufacturers can stick in better spec processors, ram, storage etc.. but as long as people feel they have everything that they need currently, then we're stuck in a loop until convinces us otherwise.
mathsmart said:
Im gonna switch back to iphone ..durability is outstanding and way better than my g3 ..also I have to order a new camera lens due to scratching screen 10$ not a big deal but hey ...also this lag get me to a point of no return ..
send from LG G3
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seriously dude? i owned iphone, not the latest one like iphone 6, 6+ and 6Sh*t + Rose Gold..
it's just Black Coloured iPhone5S and i use it for my second number..
here's my own review in term of PERFORMANCE and DURABILITY
yes, iphone is a real lag-free devices, the software is real outstanding !
it's worth to pay for that ( iOS ) but unfornately the iphones not even great in term of durability
my iphone crack it screen twice in my pockets! LOL.. maybe my jeans is too tight i guess..
so i replaced it twice and already waste around $200 for that S*tty Screen.
and in terms of BATTERY LIFE and CAMERA
my iPhone is worser than my G3 ( avg 14 hours ) or my Xperia ZL ( avg 8 hours ) or maybe Lenovo A889 ( avg Almost a day )!
Please take note that i'm not a heavy user, enough for socialing and clash of clans only.
for camera, both doing great job ( flawless result ) but extra score for G3 with additional support for 4K video, OIS and RAW with XCam.
Don't Forget! G3 also have front facing flash too.. so i wouldn't need the iPhone 6Sh*t for an upgrade..
As conclusion, iphone easy to use in one hand while android is real fun to use.. NO JOKE!
but it's customizable.. even jailbroken iphone can't be customized too much.. still boring
what i can say, it's your choice.. and this is my opinion.. bear in mind that nothing is perfect
everything made has it's own pro's and cons depend on what purpose do you use it for..
Final word from me, i'm still use both of it... im satisfied with both G3 and iPhone 5S
I definitely agree with you on the fact that these recent phones have just been disappointing. I was itching to buy the 6p when I heard about it, but then when I realized they removed external battery and SD card that was my deal breaker. It's really sad that our contracts can expire and we can still prefer our current phones, but I have hope that we'll see some amazing stuff in the next few years. I'm currently in love with my g3, and the only thing that'll take it away from me is an equal device with a fingerprint scanner.
However, right now seems to be the year of software. We're getting an amazing update compared to our lollipop experiences, and google is really refining itself.
OP welcome to the world of corporate marketing.
Coming from the last 4 generations of nexus phones, the G3 was my first non nexus in a while. I kept it for 11 months, but i could never get used to the lag and choppy animations, it just hurt my eyes. I liked the camera though. Recently i sold it and switched back to my nexus 5, and i cannot describe enough how silky smooth it is on Marshmallow, every transition animation, every action, it's just a pleasure to use, despite being a 2 year old phone.
For me, the only candidate for a possible upgrade would be the nexus 6P, but i might as well just skip this generation and wait for a 2016 stock android flagship.
I'm not returning to laggy phones anymore.
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Coming from the last 4 generations of nexus phones, the G3 was my first non nexus in a while. I kept it for 11 months, but i could never get used to the lag and choppy animations, it just hurt my eyes. I liked the camera though. Recently i sold it and switched back to my nexus 5, and i cannot describe enough how silky smooth it is on Marshmallow, every transition animation, every action, it's just a pleasure to use, despite being a 2 year old phone.
For me, the only candidate for a possible upgrade would be the nexus 6P, but i might as well just skip this generation and wait for a 2016 stock android flagship.
I'm not returning to laggy phones anymore.
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I experienced lag aswell when the 5.0 update was released. After the first update this problem was solved for me. Also some advice or just a little trick idk, I also turn off some animations or speed them up in the developer mode menu in order to make things a bit quicker and possibly less laggy. When this is done the phones feels faster.
Right now I'm waiting for the 2016 releases aswell. We'll see what LG or maybe samsung has to offer coming year.
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OP welcome to the world of corporate marketing.
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hahaha I know, I know. I know all about business strategy and marketing, But still, this year it feels a little bit more like trying to be innovative instead of being innovative
Where is my my small flagship... Motox x gen 1 with g3 or better speed
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