I recently acquired a HTC Universal for dirt cheap, and have found the first problem to explain the low price: Whenever I'm using a "power-hungry" application (TCPMP, Internet via Wi-Fi) it eventually just blacks out. Full shutdown without warning.
When trying to reactivate the unit, it reboots as if after a soft reset.
In fact, if I try to reactivate it too quickly, even the reboot fails.
None of the above happens when on external power.
This leads me to think that it's nothing worse than a battery that's lost its mojo, but since there is no warning about low battery, and when the reboot finishes successfully even SPB says the battery is somewhere around 70%, I want to run this by you guys.
What do you think? Just go get a new battery, or is there something else going on which will make buying a new battery just a waste of money?
I'd say it's the battery, 99% sure.
I'ts gotten old and its voltage breaks down under load. If you have proper equipment and a glimpse of an idea what you're doing you should drain about 300mA from the battery and measure its output voltage.
You'll most likely see it going below 3.0V quickly.
I'm afraid I don't have that equipment, but all I really needed to hear was that it's probably the battery.
Now I can stop thinking about it and just order a new batery.
Unexpected reboot - Apparently bettery issue
Hey Holybear, my device shows exactly same symptom, If possible let us know if bat replacement solved the issue>
Holy Bear said:
I recently acquired a HTC Universal for dirt cheap, and have found the first problem to explain the low price: Whenever I'm using a "power-hungry" application (TCPMP, Internet via Wi-Fi) it eventually just blacks out. Full shutdown without warning.
When trying to reactivate the unit, it reboots as if after a soft reset.
In fact, if I try to reactivate it too quickly, even the reboot fails.
None of the above happens when on external power.
This leads me to think that it's nothing worse than a battery that's lost its mojo, but since there is no warning about low battery, and when the reboot finishes successfully even SPB says the battery is somewhere around 70%, I want to run this by you guys.
What do you think? Just go get a new battery, or is there something else going on which will make buying a new battery just a waste of money?
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I knew I wasn't the only one withthat problem. I think i've prooved it to be a battery faultt. as if you taake te battery out after it gets to that stage where you just can not get it too complete a boot up without it shuttinng down again
take out battery ,place finer oveer all battery trmminals and plug inn your mainss charger it should now boot up and runn fin off the charger unless your finger slips off the battery terminals. thisshsowws it's the temprature sensor in the battery.
I posted a more in depth reply to a guy in the wm6 threads as wifi heeaating up battery wass shutting off his device as well
@ cyberjak
Hmm, the idea that a temperature sensor in the battery causes this problems is interesting. I'd just expect the device not being cappable of rebooting instantly, because there should be a hysteresis implemented in the battery's protection circuit.
I had the exact same problems and described them elsewhere, but in my case it surely wasn't an issue of temperature.
I'd suggest to take out the battery and wait about an hour for the device and the battery to cool off. Most likely the battery will then take a complete boot but shut down soon after that - without having gotten near to "warm" yet.
If this happens you can be sure that the battery itself is dead without needing to measure anything.
Okay, to tell you what I tried:
I ran the Universal until it spontaneously went dead.
Started bootlaoder to see how much longer it would work on that. Was a bit longer, what with low energy consumption, but soon even that wouldn't stay on for long.
Then decided to try the "old wives' tale" (meaning I don't know whether there's any sense behind it or not) of putting the battery in the freezer for a little while.
When I took it out and let it get back to normal temp, I plugged it in and after a while booted the Universal. It showed 40% battery, lower than it had ever gotten lately.
Recharged for a full day.
Tried TCPMP: went dead after three minutes.
So in my experience the above didn't help battery performance.
Am going to get a new battery in a few days; I'll keep you posted on progress as I try with a fresh battery.
I had the same problem, whenever i did something cpu intensive, it would just black out.
I just bought a new 3100mAh battery. Best thing i ever did. It might be thicker now with the new battery, but it actually feels more comfortable as a phone. Plus the new battery only cost 13 odd quid, so definately well worth it. Oh and it doubles the battery life (3100/1500 = ~2... duh)
Hope that helps.
oh you know wat i have the same problem with my Jasjar and the bigest problem that there is no batteries on market for Jasjars in my country....its looks like im living in Jurassic Century!!!
If you want i can send you a battery xplayer, they're quite cheap here.
Rc-Blob said:
I had the same problem, whenever i did something cpu intensive, it would just black out.
I just bought a new 3100mAh battery. Best thing i ever did. It might be thicker now with the new battery, but it actually feels more comfortable as a phone. Plus the new battery only cost 13 odd quid, so definately well worth it. Oh and it doubles the battery life (3100/1500 = ~2... duh)
Hope that helps.
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I ordered a regular battery replacement, but maybe I'll add a 3100mAh as well.
I could use it as a media player during long train trips.
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Okay, to tell you what I tried:
I ran the Universal until it spontaneously went dead.
Started bootlaoder to see how much longer it would work on that. Was a bit longer, what with low energy consumption, but soon even that wouldn't stay on for long.
Then decided to try the "old wives' tale" (meaning I don't know whether there's any sense behind it or not) of putting the battery in the freezer for a little while.
When I took it out and let it get back to normal temp, I plugged it in and after a while booted the Universal. It showed 40% battery, lower than it had ever gotten lately.
Recharged for a full day.
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I revived two batteries by intense cycling to work quite well again. They still black out at 20%, but only under extreme load (active gsm connection, active wifi, bluetooth and having to render a webpage).
But you should be able to discharge them below 25% at least. Else they're most certainly "too dead" already. And you should do at least 3-4 cycles.
My guess would be that the freezer finished your battery off. I don't understand how this method should work anyway, as lower temperatures reduce the time affected capacity loss. Actually the best place to store a LiPo or LIo battery is the fridge, charged about half the way.
But I also ordered two 3100mAh batteries. I'm using the Uni as a laptop replacement and the permanent wifi usage together with some cpu load and the backlight kicks the battery's ass quite hard.
In Germany the China 3100mAhs are overpriced and it's hard to get your hands on an external charger, but on Ebay.co.uk there's a seller that offers battery and charger as a bundle for about 15€. This will give me a solid 6000+mAh per day and should be enough to forget about virtually every setting related to power consumption
@ xplayer
If you haven't donw already, take a look at Ebay.com, co.uk etc and look if one of the sellers there will ship to kurdistan. You may be lucky
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If you want i can send you a battery xplayer, they're quite cheap here.
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Oh Thanx Rc-Blob....bt there is No way even to send me no addresses no posting in my country...am from kurdistan of Iraq...thanks again its looks like u sent me one...bt I even have brother in USA he can't send me...except if some one come from there so i have to wait...thanks buddy...
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I revived two batteries by intense cycling to work quite well again. They still black out at 20%, but only under extreme load (active gsm connection, active wifi, bluetooth and having to render a webpage).
But you should be able to discharge them below 25% at least. Else they're most certainly "too dead" already. And you should do at least 3-4 cycles.
My guess would be that the freezer finished your battery off. I don't understand how this method should work anyway, as lower temperatures reduce the time affected capacity loss. Actually the best place to store a LiPo or LIo battery is the fridge, charged about half the way.
But I also ordered two 3100mAh batteries. I'm using the Uni as a laptop replacement and the permanent wifi usage together with some cpu load and the backlight kicks the battery's ass quite hard.
In Germany the China 3100mAhs are overpriced and it's hard to get your hands on an external charger, but on Ebay.co.uk there's a seller that offers battery and charger as a bundle for about 15€. This will give me a solid 6000+mAh per day and should be enough to forget about virtually every setting related to power consumption
@ xplayer
If you haven't donw already, take a look at Ebay.com, co.uk etc and look if one of the sellers there will ship to kurdistan. You may be lucky
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hhh ok buddy you too for care....but there is realy no way i have to wait tell some one(my brothers friend) come from USA so he can get me one from there....its ok...i can use it yet as a normal mobile...i have some other devices for multimedia right now i can wait there is no any other ways....thanks...
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If you want i can send you a battery xplayer, they're quite cheap here.
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Thanx for helping the guy,yo folks on xda are the best
Just to give you all the end of the story:
I ordered a regular replacement and a 3200 mAh one, and both have returned my Universal to a well-used life.
Thanks again to everyone helping me out here.
For you guys does the device switch off only when the battery is low, or any time. Cause I have this problem as well, and I was SURE that it wasn't a battery problem until I read this thread. The phone switches off intermittently, sometimes after only 3' talk time right after it had been charging for a full 8 hours! Also, usually if I let it sit there for a few hours I could then turn it back on and it would last a full day, so I knew it wasn't due to low battery.
The overheating theory would explain my problem, as, now that I think about it, all my seemingly-random shutdowns were during radio activity (making or receiving calls, especially when the phone was searching for signal, or wifi, which would almost instantly kill it). Strange that it overheats like this, most phone batteries simply run out of charge faster and faster until they can't hold a charge at all, but mine lasts almost as long as it always lasted even though it's 2 years old - unless I get the shutdown thing of course.
I asked this in another thread, but since this one is full of people who got replacement batteries I'll repeat my question here as well:
How much thicker than the standard battery are the 3100 and the 4200mAh ones?
I also got this problem recently, so I bought a new battery and although it's only a 1600mAh battery it runs great again
hey roodkapje ive got that same problem with my battery for my spv m5000 the bad news is that i cant get that batery in barbados so im all out to see
Hi, I've bought a nexus 4 about a month ago. I works great and the battery life is good enought but i notice that sometimes I connect the charger (when the battery is 40% full for example) and a few minutes later it says it is 100%.
Ofcourse it's not and some minutes later it drops. If I reboot the phone it shows the correct percentaje, but I happens very often.
Somebody has the same issue?
I didn't try to wipe the battery stats because I didnt install a custom recovery. Is there any way to fix it without flashing it?
thanks
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Hi, I've bought a nexus 4 about a month ago. I works great and the battery life is good enought but i notice that sometimes I connect the charger (when the battery is 40% full for example) and a few minutes later it says it is 100%.
Ofcourse it's not and some minutes later it drops. If I reboot the phone it shows the correct percentaje, but I happens very often.
Somebody has the same issue?
I didn't try to wipe the battery stats because I didnt install a custom recovery. Is there any way to fix it without flashing it?
thanks
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Most N4's have some quirky battery stat behaviour. You'll have to learn to live with it, wiping battery stats, or reflashing the stock images, or an alternative ROM, won't do anything to address this.
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Most N4's have some quirky battery stat behaviour. You'll have to learn to live with it, wiping battery stats, or reflashing the stock images, or an alternative ROM, won't do anything to address this.
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Really? SO ****ING AWESOME! haha
thanks!
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Really? SO ****ING AWESOME! haha
thanks!
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It's the first thing I noticed about the phone. I've only charged from 0 to 100 in a second once though when I first got the phone, aside from that just the occasional lazy updating of the actual percentage. Stressing the phone a bit tends to help it "catch up" to where it should be.
Edit: you know, it's good OCD therapy, it may help you get past your OCD if you have it.
If you don't have OCD, you certainly will now...
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It's the first thing I noticed about the phone. I've only charged from 0 to 100 in a second once though when I first got the phone, aside from that just the occasional lazy updating of the actual percentage. Stressing the phone a bit tends to help it "catch up" to where it should be.
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Yes, the same happened to me, the issue is that sometimes I lost track of when it plug it to the charger and after use it the battery drains. It is very annoying.
I will try to charge from 0 to 100 a few times to si if the stats sync with the real battery state...
Thank
I'm getting pretty consistent reading far as 0% - 100% goes (course I drained the battery down to zero twice and charged back up).
What I'm finding that seems rather weird is glitchy mV reading with battery monitor widget pro. It does decrease as the battery decreases as expected, what's unexpected is all the lil spikes upward in it's value over time, like every few mins it'll jump up like from 3995mv to 4040mv or similar jumps as if the widget can't get an accurate reading of the battery's mV level. So it look weird because the only time you would see the mV rising, is if you're charging it.
And I know someone else on this forums with a Nexus 4 that's actually showing positive mA values when he's not even plugged into a charger.
But as far as % reading goes, seems pretty accurate now, just the readings I'm getting from battery monitor widget had me concerned that the battery was bad on my less than a week old Nexus 4. My Nexus 7's history/stats look rock-stable by comparison, kind of wondering if it's an LG thing.
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I'm getting pretty consistent reading far as 0% - 100% goes (course I drained the battery down to zero twice and charged back up).
What I'm finding that seems rather weird is glitchy mV reading with battery monitor widget pro. It does decrease as the battery decreases as expected, what's unexpected is all the lil spikes upward in it's value over time, like every few mins it'll jump up like from 3995mv to 4040mv or similar jumps as if the widget can't get an accurate reading of the battery's mV level. So it look weird because the only time you would see the mV rising, is if you're charging it.
And I know someone else on this forums with a Nexus 4 that's actually showing positive mA values when he's not even plugged into a charger.
But as far as % reading goes, seems pretty accurate now, just the readings I'm getting from battery monitor widget had me concerned that the battery was bad on my less than a week old Nexus 4. My Nexus 7's history/stats look rock-stable by comparison, kind of wondering if it's an LG thing.
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Well this is odd... i think it might be an issue with the -kind of- voltimeter (battery sensor? i dont know how to name it). The battery life is ok up to now but the stats are driving me crazy!
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Well this is odd... i think it might be an issue with the -kind of- voltimeter (battery sensor? i dont know how to name it). The battery life is ok up to now but the stats are driving me crazy!
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Those of us who look beyond just the % available are easily driven crazy.
But then again because I do, I was able to prove a certain brand of charger was incompatible with my Nexus tablet.
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I tried to catch it in the act via adb and shell last fall pinging the voltage, fuel gauge, etc... but that was all my n00b self was good for.
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I've noticed that my battery % is off also. Not as bad as jumping up to 100% or anything, but I notice that when charging, the % is 20% higher than the actual battery. It'll say fully charged, but when I reboot the phone it'll say something like 83%. That happens a lot, and not always at '100%'. If I reboot anytime during the charging process, it drops around 20%. I haven't tried to do it right after I connect it, but every time I do actually reboot it happens. Kinda weird. Not even close to a deal-breaker or anything, just a quirk that I wouldn't mind getting fixed.
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I'm getting pretty consistent reading far as 0% - 100% goes (course I drained the battery down to zero twice and charged back up).
What I'm finding that seems rather weird is glitchy mV reading with battery monitor widget pro. It does decrease as the battery decreases as expected, what's unexpected is all the lil spikes upward in it's value over time, like every few mins it'll jump up like from 3995mv to 4040mv or similar jumps as if the widget can't get an accurate reading of the battery's mV level. So it look weird because the only time you would see the mV rising, is if you're charging it.
And I know someone else on this forums with a Nexus 4 that's actually showing positive mA values when he's not even plugged into a charger.
But as far as % reading goes, seems pretty accurate now, just the readings I'm getting from battery monitor widget had me concerned that the battery was bad on my less than a week old Nexus 4. My Nexus 7's history/stats look rock-stable by comparison, kind of wondering if it's an LG thing.
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My nexus is also showing +ve mA values while it's not charging, and the values are absolutely crazy, +268, +168, +1171
Is it a battery issue?
I have charged it completely (8 hours) many times and run it to the bottom , tried deleting battery stats etc but nothing has helped.
Shall I get the battery replaced?
tried to delete the battery stats file and wait for a while and see if any difference?
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floxrin said:
tried to delete the battery stats file and wait for a while and see if any difference?
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Tried that multiple times but no change, what are the possibilities? Damaged battery? Damaged battery sensors on the phone?
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Tried that multiple times but no change, what are the possibilities? Damaged battery? Damaged battery sensors on the phone?
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How old is the phone?
http://pocketnow.com/android/deleting-androids-batterystatsbin-wont-grant-more-jiuce
Well Google support definitely knows this is a big problem. After I explained the exact same issues I was having with the battery indicator being wrong they offered a in warranty replacement right away with no trouble shooting what so ever. Problem was they wanted to authorize my debit card for the full price of a phone plus shipping until they received mine back. Unfortunately I didn't have 230 bucks that I could just have tied up in authorization limbo for 2 weeks. So they transferred me to LG support because they have a return policy where they let you ship the phone back first. LG at first tried to say they only do paid repairs on Nexus 4's and that google is responsible for warranty's, but a little arguing about manufacturer warranty laws in the US and threatening to file a complaint with the FCC they agreed to replace the phone under LG warranty. Again they didn't do any troubleshooting at all. Upon explaining the problem they went right into replacement phone. This leads me to believe there is no easy fix or software problem they can update, but rather a hardware problem.
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I've noticed that my battery % is off also. Not as bad as jumping up to 100% or anything, but I notice that when charging, the % is 20% higher than the actual battery. It'll say fully charged, but when I reboot the phone it'll say something like 83%. That happens a lot, and not always at '100%'. If I reboot anytime during the charging process, it drops around 20%. I haven't tried to do it right after I connect it, but every time I do actually reboot it happens. Kinda weird. Not even close to a deal-breaker or anything, just a quirk that I wouldn't mind getting fixed.
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I have exactly this behavior all of a sudden the last 2 weeks.
I have worse issues....
We had the screen/digitizer replaced after my wife dropped the phone.
The phone now has some issues. It will charge, and operate ok until the battery reaches about 80%.
Then the touch will go crazy, and the phone will turn off.
Upon rebooting, the battery is suddenly at 0%.
I purchased a new battery and installed it. It charged to 100% the first time and the phone lasted for a while.
Then after that it refused to charge at all. Didn't matter how many times I did the power + volume up trick.
I put the original battery back in, and it charges, but of course dies after it reaches 80%.
Same here. Problems after screen replacement month or two ago, not sure that related. Battery went bad. After replacement with a new one (original not chinies) not stable: shows 100% charge then turn off on in 10 min, after powered on again shows 65 % and after 10 minutes plugged in 100% charged.
Driving me crazy... Fully wiped, factory reset all the same. Rooted and wiped battery stats not helped. Very frustrating if some one can suggest one else can be done...
The phone is just fine, powerfull . no reasons to replace
I also developed my battery issue about a month after replacing the screen and digitizer. I'm going to take it apart and clean the connectors and see if that helps, because I'm so annoyed I'm about to buy a new phone.
My guess is that the battery was damaged during the screen/digitizer replacing process. It happened to me recently. No biggie 24 € for a new LG original battery seems pretty cheap and the problem was solved. But why are nowdays batteries somewhat soft??
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It's been happening for almost a week now and it's really frustrating i leave my phone at 100 percent charge and when i wake up it's either 52 or 67 or 71 and battery life seems poor too
I did some tests ı uninstalled google play services used greenify, used rom's wakelock blocker (checked everything there) enabled power saving mode, undervoltaged, gpu idle speed 27mhz i did a lot of things to save battery before going to bed and the battery was 81 and i just woke up and the battery was 49 percent after using it for 2 minutes it dropped to 43 percent, the phone got a little water damaged 2-3 weeks ago i wonder if that did something should i get a new battery?
I'm rooted, boeffla kernel with resurrection remix rom
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I checked GSAM battery monitor and the only thing that drains my battery was screen (80 percent) it drained more when it is off than on
At the wakelock blocked it says phone deep sleeped for 9 hours 52 minutes and was awake for 5 minutes and 24 seconds
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It's been happening for almost a week now and it's really frustrating i leave my phone at 100 percent charge and when i wake up it's either 52 or 67 or 71 and battery life seems poor too
I did some tests ı uninstalled google play services used greenify, used rom's wakelock blocker (checked everything there) enabled power saving mode, undervoltaged, gpu idle speed 27mhz i did a lot of things to save battery before going to bed and the battery was 81 and i just woke up and the battery was 49 percent after using it for 2 minutes it dropped to 43 percent, the phone got a little water damaged 2-3 weeks ago i wonder if that did something should i get a new battery?
I'm rooted, boeffla kernel with resurrection remix rom
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I checked GSAM battery monitor and the only thing that drains my battery was screen (80 percent) it drained more when it is off than on
At the wakelock blocked it says phone deep sleeped for 9 hours 52 minutes and was awake for 5 minutes and 24 seconds
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Hey okan, seems like its definitely battery.
Try to not undervolt gpu, it will cause instability and the difference is most likely unable to compare, so dont tweak it, indtall google service back.
So, i had bought a china crap that is 7800mAh (it was just double size) and after 2 charge, it died. However, it was like u mentioned, every minute it drained 5%, now it doesnt charge. During charge it says 100% when i unplug it, it dies (it needs secondary power start-up to start batt, else it cant start itself) however i knew it died. Seller ignores me now for refund, now i bought real 7500mAh Anker battery, and right after i plugged it, i NEVER encoured any kind of similar problem, so most likely it is battery issue. Ur battery is dead! Simple.
Also, take out batt, put on a flat desk and see if it looks abit like its round on middle of the battery. If it is, then get a replacement asap.
Try out Anker 7500mAh battery, cost 30€, almost same as stock batt, but is 2.5x longer batt + its (sadly) heavier. But got amazing protection, sadly its not anymore water resistant
Choice is urs, and never buy cheap batt, it can damage device or explode, always give 10€ more n forget those things
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Hey okan, seems like its definitely battery.
Try to not undervolt gpu, it will cause instability and the difference is most likely unable to compare, so dont tweak it, indtall google service back.
So, i had bought a china crap that is 7800mAh (it was just double size) and after 2 charge, it died. However, it was like u mentioned, every minute it drained 5%, now it doesnt charge. During charge it says 100% when i unplug it, it dies (it needs secondary power start-up to start batt, else it cant start itself) however i knew it died. Seller ignores me now for refund, now i bought real 7500mAh Anker battery, and right after i plugged it, i NEVER encoured any kind of similar problem, so most likely it is battery issue. Ur battery is dead! Simple.
Also, take out batt, put on a flat desk and see if it looks abit like its round on middle of the battery. If it is, then get a replacement asap.
Try out Anker 7500mAh battery, cost 30€, almost same as stock batt, but is 2.5x longer batt + its (sadly) heavier. But got amazing protection, sadly its not anymore water resistant
Choice is urs, and never buy cheap batt, it can damage device or explode, always give 10€ more n forget those things
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I'm not undervolting the cpu my kernel does automaticly (stock 1080mv with this kernel it's 1055mv and it's stable don't worry)
for the battery ı did noticed some weird shape on the battery it's not a round shape but a rectangle shape and some part is higher and some part is lower on the battery it's like a bent iphone battery is not flat/straight and do you think water damage caused the issue? i ordered a battery already EB-BG900BBC one, genuine original samsung 2800mah battery will see with that battery life seems OKAY when the screen is one it uses like %1 per 8 minutes (light usage with power saving + no wifi + no location + no data + brightness %40-50 ) but when the screen is off it seems like it uses more battery than on, it drains a lot overnight and i don't really get the logic behind this (there's no wakelock)
Oh the battery is also kinda stupid i charge it to 100 percent use it a while drops to 98 then ı remove the battery and plug it again start the phone boom battery is 100 percent, i already calibrated battery and sometimes it drops 2 percent when i unlock the screen
Sorry for my bad english
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I'm not undervolting the cpu my kernel does automaticly (stock 1080mv with this kernel it's 1055mv and it's stable don't worry)
for the battery ı did noticed some weird shape on the battery it's not a round shape but a rectangle shape and some part is higher and some part is lower on the battery it's like a bent iphone battery is not flat/straight and do you think water damage caused the issue? i ordered a battery already EB-BG900BBC one, genuine original samsung 2800mah battery will see with that battery life seems OKAY when the screen is one it uses like %1 per 8 minutes (light usage with power saving + no wifi + no location + no data + brightness %40-50 ) but when the screen is off it seems like it uses more battery than on, it drains a lot overnight and i don't really get the logic behind this (there's no wakelock)
Oh the battery is also kinda stupid i charge it to 100 percent use it a while drops to 98 then ı remove the battery and plug it again start the phone boom battery is 100 percent, i already calibrated battery and sometimes it drops 2 percent when i unlock the screen
Sorry for my bad english
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Ok, ur battery got wierd shape that is the MAIN key, however it may got something else behind that, but im sure battery is somewhat related with th! Issue as well.
So far all this points to battery.
Another thing is CM12 rom ur using, it is nightly and if u didnt made a proper installation or may it did not itself a proper installation thus causes somewhat mysterious draining.
Is ur phone hot? Can you download CPU temperature app and enable logging, cpu overlay options + see the cpu upsage with all apps closed (dont mind those messengee, viber apps, just close them form multitask panel) tell me what kind of average percentage it gives you.
On me, its between 9 - 14% mostly with lowest clockspeed, so how on urs?
Aand what is ur batt temp? I guesd it will give wrong results still tell me.
Hmm water damage should be considered too, but what, maybe battery got water damage i believe, but u mentioned it lasts better when screen is on than off. Btw, did u knew b4 tht s5 is waterproof? How do u know or knew it got waterdamage?
Where was water drops on cover? Battery? Wet? Where? You should point it out, maybe any other s5 smart xda-user can give you his thoughs of where it may(be) did water damage.
Thats all i can do for you. Hopefully its just batt.
P.S: im using cm12 too, only thing i realized is, cm12 drains more batt on standby than stock s5 5.0 rom (pretty annoying when nothing is found on wakelocks/wake-up analyze/reports.)
Btw, try Amplify app, it is xposed module and root app, if u got xposed, try it and reset timer, turn off synx, wifi, get to arplane mode, in short, EVERYTHING (even apps if possible from its rot, kill it) and run Amplify, reset timer of it, and close that app (swipe from multitask) and turn off phone. After 1 hour, open and straight away go to amplify and see stuffs that mostly causes wakelocks, i believe those non-root apps may cant point out properly wakelocks or i may be wrong, just try it (app got inapp which enables you to stop wakelocks/serviced/alarms, but you can still see on free version the cause of triggering)
Ok, it got vry long im sorry, i used it, and got rarely, RARELY (On wifi) awake thing, however app gave me apps like messenger, other kind of wierd wakelocks thqt got turned on, but did not show up on system batt stat, thts why i suggest you to use this n see it).
Do a nandroid backup first, n post results of everything i mentioned
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Ok, ur battery got wierd shape that is the MAIN key, however it may got something else behind that, but im sure battery is somewhat related with th! Issue as well.
So far all this points to battery.
Another thing is CM12 rom ur using, it is nightly and if u didnt made a proper installation or may it did not itself a proper installation thus causes somewhat mysterious draining.
Is ur phone hot? Can you download CPU temperature app and enable logging, cpu overlay options + see the cpu upsage with all apps closed (dont mind those messengee, viber apps, just close them form multitask panel) tell me what kind of average percentage it gives you.
On me, its between 9 - 14% mostly with lowest clockspeed, so how on urs?
Aand what is ur batt temp? I guesd it will give wrong results still tell me.
Hmm water damage should be considered too, but what, maybe battery got water damage i believe, but u mentioned it lasts better when screen is on than off. Btw, did u knew b4 tht s5 is waterproof? How do u know or knew it got waterdamage?
Where was water drops on cover? Battery? Wet? Where? You should point it out, maybe any other s5 smart xda-user can give you his thoughs of where it may(be) did water damage.
Thats all i can do for you. Hopefully its just batt.
P.S: im using cm12 too, only thing i realized is, cm12 drains more batt on standby than stock s5 5.0 rom (pretty annoying when nothing is found on wakelocks/wake-up analyze/reports.)
Btw, try Amplify app, it is xposed module and root app, if u got xposed, try it and reset timer, turn off synx, wifi, get to arplane mode, in short, EVERYTHING (even apps if possible from its rot, kill it) and run Amplify, reset timer of it, and close that app (swipe from multitask) and turn off phone. After 1 hour, open and straight away go to amplify and see stuffs that mostly causes wakelocks, i believe those non-root apps may cant point out properly wakelocks or i may be wrong, just try it (app got inapp which enables you to stop wakelocks/serviced/alarms, but you can still see on free version the cause of triggering)
Ok, it got vry long im sorry, i used it, and got rarely, RARELY (On wifi) awake thing, however app gave me apps like messenger, other kind of wierd wakelocks thqt got turned on, but did not show up on system batt stat, thts why i suggest you to use this n see it).
Do a nandroid backup first, n post results of everything i mentioned
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I tried a lot of roms and stock rom too issue remains
battery temp 28-35c cpu is 38 c idle
when i open the cover the water was under the battery so i removed the battery than see a lot of water, so the sticker also became purple but i removed the battery immediatly and dried the phone with towels and put it on my computer fan for 3-4 hours
ı uninstalled any suspicious apps and facebook/messenger and stuff too still draining, factory reset, still draining
the weird shape i think is normal i did a spin test and there was no bulge that's just my dumbness
ı can't install xposed because it doesn't support this android version
s5 is not waterproof it's water resistant i don't know how the water got inside but it did (all ports and case was closed)
okanbey1 said:
I tried a lot of roms and stock rom too issue remains
battery temp 28-35c cpu is 38 c idle
when i open the cover the water was under the battery so i removed the battery than see a lot of water, so the sticker also became purple but i removed the battery immediatly and dried the phone with towels and put it on my computer fan for 3-4 hours
ı uninstalled any suspicious apps and facebook/messenger and stuff too still draining, factory reset, still draining
the weird shape i think is normal i did a spin test and there was no bulge that's just my dumbness
ı can't install xposed because it doesn't support this android version
s5 is not waterproof it's water resistant i don't know how the water got inside but it did (all ports and case was closed)
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Hey, firstly i agree, it is water resistant, however it got certifies of being waterproof yet not really reliable yet to drop it in water xD who knows, maybe cover & charging flip cover port wears off over time and gets loose xD i never take the bet, not my thing.
So, ur cpu is very nice, batt temp is nice, as of xposed, i dunno but if it is CM12, then it should, if it's another kind of rom, then i dunno.
Another thing is, did your battery spin? how is it's shape? do you mean that your battery looks like this?
The battery's top side looks like it is inside, in a square form, huh?
If that's what you mean, other than battery is round or a bit a ball shape, then it's normal, cuz that is NFC thing applied in battery, which makes it look in wierd shape xD
All i can see is your battery. Ur device is fine, if it had water damage, it should show itself instead of hiding xD probably battery, yay! that's easy-fix (let's hope it is so).
Tell me once battery arrives, and write to us result of the new battery, btw, when you use ur phone, never use device untill battery dies, this affects the battery lifespan dramatically, so always charge it on 15% or 10%, it might not be cause but might help you maximize your new battery's lifespan.
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Hey, firstly i agree, it is water resistant, however it got certifies of being waterproof yet not really reliable yet to drop it in water xD who knows, maybe cover & charging flip cover port wears off over time and gets loose xD i never take the bet, not my thing.
So, ur cpu is very nice, batt temp is nice, as of xposed, i dunno but if it is CM12, then it should, if it's another kind of rom, then i dunno.
Another thing is, did your battery spin? how is it's shape? do you mean that your battery looks like this?
The battery's top side looks like it is inside, in a square form, huh?
If that's what you mean, other than battery is round or a bit a ball shape, then it's normal, cuz that is NFC thing applied in battery, which makes it look in wierd shape xD
All i can see is your battery. Ur device is fine, if it had water damage, it should show itself instead of hiding xD probably battery, yay! that's easy-fix (let's hope it is so).
Tell me once battery arrives, and write to us result of the new battery, btw, when you use ur phone, never use device untill battery dies, this affects the battery lifespan dramatically, so always charge it on 15% or 10%, it might not be cause but might help you maximize your new battery's lifespan.
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Yes that's what it looks like lol i told you i'm dumb it didn't spin so the shape is OK for now
When the water got first in first 3-4 days the back and recent tabs buttons randomly pressed on it own and their light didn't lit up sometimes so there was definitely some water damage the phone was really stupid but it got fixed and i dried the phone it's not perfectly fine, performance is fine (50k antutu score), screen is brilliant everything works expect for the battery and i remember this issue started somewhere near that time after like 5 days later
well i can't charge it on %10-%15 i just got home from school and battery was already dead at 15:20 p.m (it's now 16:08 and it's charging)
well that really doesn't matter now because my battery already been shipped and probably will come tomorrow but i can't pick it up because i have school i'll get it from the building i will post results with the new battery and also tey said i should first charge it for like 10 hours because the battery is new and something do you know anything about that and they also said the battery performance will increase with more charge cycles over time i don't know if he's bs'ing me with a ****ty battery or is it true?
thanks for your help and for your long messages :fingers-crossed:
It is true that charging new batteries first 3-4 cycle fully for extra hours is good. Many people say there is no need for li-ion batteries, and many people say it is good, i would say, do it!
You dont need 10 hours, 6-7 hours is enough, if u got miniUSB with OEM charger & adapter, 6-7 hours is okay. Use battery to 15% and charge to 100% (then let it charge an extra 2 hours after it's 100%), do this 3-4 charging cycle, then use it normal.
The thing is, S5 uses a more costly battery which is li-ion, it is a bit more expensive, and they hold the battery better, which li-po doesnt like li-ion does, but li-polymer is a battery that is very soft and very much flexible to design it, so, all batteries have advantage and disadvantage.
Look, Li-polymer is batteries like HTC One M8 Does (dunno M9), they got memory-effect, which means, it is recommended to charge it when it arrives on 10-15%, while Li-Ion has no memory effect, which means you can even put on charger in 50% or 70%. The thing is, battery is better if you charge it instead of depleting it. Li-Ion is that kind of battery, both battery has an average charging cycle of 350 - 500, i got extended 7500mAh battery, and i charge it every night. Some days i put charger in 80%, somedays i play long and long and put on charger 30%, but try to avoid overcharge it. When it shows 100%, don't let it stay in charger more then 1 hour (it's not recommended).
However, i heard nowadays chargers got lock, still taking precaution urself is better than relying to technology (duh, technology man, it can be faulty who knows lol) the chargers are no more charging phone once it hits to 100%, the charger stops to charge it, and after a hour or so, it attempts to charge it again, once it see it's full (again) it stops, and so on it continues. Built to maximize lifespan, and another thing is, never let ur phone be always on 100% xD
God damn, those crap batteries, they are like puppets, you gotta take good care of em xDD
Bro, what is the app you use to track ur wakelock? i got issues too with my phone getting triggered by an wakelock app to wake-up my phone on 3G data 40-50% than it deep-sleeps, and dunno rlly what app it is, so i try different apps to find the app to block it trigger phone :/
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It is true that charging new batteries first 3-4 cycle fully for extra hours is good. Many people say there is no need for li-ion batteries, and many people say it is good, i would say, do it!
You dont need 10 hours, 6-7 hours is enough, if u got miniUSB with OEM charger & adapter, 6-7 hours is okay. Use battery to 15% and charge to 100% (then let it charge an extra 2 hours after it's 100%), do this 3-4 charging cycle, then use it normal.
The thing is, S5 uses a more costly battery which is li-ion, it is a bit more expensive, and they hold the battery better, which li-po doesnt like li-ion does, but li-polymer is a battery that is very soft and very much flexible to design it, so, all batteries have advantage and disadvantage.
Look, Li-polymer is batteries like HTC One M8 Does (dunno M9), they got memory-effect, which means, it is recommended to charge it when it arrives on 10-15%, while Li-Ion has no memory effect, which means you can even put on charger in 50% or 70%. The thing is, battery is better if you charge it instead of depleting it. Li-Ion is that kind of battery, both battery has an average charging cycle of 350 - 500, i got extended 7500mAh battery, and i charge it every night. Some days i put charger in 80%, somedays i play long and long and put on charger 30%, but try to avoid overcharge it. When it shows 100%, don't let it stay in charger more then 1 hour (it's not recommended).
However, i heard nowadays chargers got lock, still taking precaution urself is better than relying to technology (duh, technology man, it can be faulty who knows lol) the chargers are no more charging phone once it hits to 100%, the charger stops to charge it, and after a hour or so, it attempts to charge it again, once it see it's full (again) it stops, and so on it continues. Built to maximize lifespan, and another thing is, never let ur phone be always on 100% xD
God damn, those crap batteries, they are like puppets, you gotta take good care of em xDD
Bro, what is the app you use to track ur wakelock? i got issues too with my phone getting triggered by an wakelock app to wake-up my phone on 3G data 40-50% than it deep-sleeps, and dunno rlly what app it is, so i try different apps to find the app to block it trigger phone :/
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I bought a battery and it doesn't seem to help the battery drained over %45 at 11 hours and i found the reason for it if i open the back i can see there is a lot of humidity on the phone and speakers don't work while in a call (they work on videos or sound record)
Ok u got ur answer then, ur phone is damaged.
From the looks of the 2nd screenshot, it says the screen was ON the majority of the time the battery was draining
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Ok u got ur answer then, ur phone is damaged.
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Well how can i remove the humid from the phone i don't think rice will work at this point should i leave the phone up on the sun ( of course will remove battery first )
Panpa bise yapamam anla, telefon nem kapmis ne yapacan bundan sonra, tek suphe duydugum ROM sorunu olabilir Kernel ile alakali yada wakelock sorunu, en iyisi CyanogenMod12 kur, nedolsa garantin gitmis siktir et, sok cm12 yi, klte icin indir calistir kullan bak bakalim nasil, eger sorun giderilmediyse ozaman telefon hasar almis tek diyebilecegim gecmis olsun.
Cyanogenmod.org dan indirebilirsin, indirme sorunu yada zorlugu cekiyorsan youtube ye
Samsung galaxy s5 cyanogenmod12 install guide. Yaz cikar, bol sans, bildirmeyi ihmal etme bize.
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Panpa bise yapamam anla, telefon nem kapmis ne yapacan bundan sonra, tek suphe duydugum ROM sorunu olabilir Kernel ile alakali yada wakelock sorunu, en iyisi CyanogenMod12 kur, nedolsa garantin gitmis siktir et, sok cm12 yi, klte icin indir calistir kullan bak bakalim nasil, eger sorun giderilmediyse ozaman telefon hasar almis tek diyebilecegim gecmis olsun.
Cyanogenmod.org dan indirebilirsin, indirme sorunu yada zorlugu cekiyorsan youtube ye
Samsung galaxy s5 cyanogenmod12 install guide. Yaz cikar, bol sans, bildirmeyi ihmal etme bize.
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Qnq en az 10 farklı rom denemişimdir 2-3 farklıda kernel işte telefon nem kapmış bu nem çıkmaz mı içerilerde değil dışlara doğru nem bataryanın konulduğu yerde altında kalıyor yani bataryanın bazıları diyor yanlış modem/bootloader versiyonları bataryayı baya etkilermiş hangi versiyonları kullanmam lazım?
This is an English forum, please use English
Since its english forum, ill write english to stay in safe-zone.
No, i dont think its caused by false or erong bootloader things, i installed so many different stuffs and never encountered with such an issue. All i can say is, you have to take apart your phone. The wierd part is, all water or anything left in it should already have gone, yet it isnt and im being suspicious it might be caused by an damaged part of ur phone.
Does ur phone randomly shut itself off? Like, on 40% batt it shuts off (as if it has no batt left when u actually got batt?)
Easy way is let ur phone rest few days, never touch it, and where u r now, is it humidity alot or? Turkey is warm country with its super much humidity, feels pretty annoying cuz alot humidity. All i would say is do the rest thing, charge ur phone to 100% then take off battery for 3 days, then put back and charge again for 3 hors or so.
Aaaand last option or add this too, take off battery, put r phone to charger, and try to boot it in download mode, then let it be like that for hours. Make sure cover is on, so it doesnt get in it **** ya.
Vry wierd, must say that.
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Since its english forum, ill write english to stay in safe-zone.
No, i dont think its caused by false or erong bootloader things, i installed so many different stuffs and never encountered with such an issue. All i can say is, you have to take apart your phone. The wierd part is, all water or anything left in it should already have gone, yet it isnt and im being suspicious it might be caused by an damaged part of ur phone.
Does ur phone randomly shut itself off? Like, on 40% batt it shuts off (as if it has no batt left when u actually got batt?)
Easy way is let ur phone rest few days, never touch it, and where u r now, is it humidity alot or? Turkey is warm country with its super much humidity, feels pretty annoying cuz alot humidity. All i would say is do the rest thing, charge ur phone to 100% then take off battery for 3 days, then put back and charge again for 3 hors or so.
Aaaand last option or add this too, take off battery, put r phone to charger, and try to boot it in download mode, then let it be like that for hours. Make sure cover is on, so it doesnt get in it **** ya.
Vry wierd, must say that.
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Yes i live next to the sea and i'm in İzmir and it's probably the most humid city in Turkey no my phone works just perfect everything works doesn't shut itself (for any reason), performance is great but i just gave my phone to a technician and he said that this phone is not like old nokias where everywhere is open so that the humid can leave the phone but this phone is closed so the humid can't get out he's gonna open the phone (from the display so he has a risk of cracking the screen ) he said come pick the phone tomorrow water is short circuiting so the battery uses more amper we'll see i'll inform you tomorrow with the results thanks for your help
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Yes i live next to the sea and i'm in İzmir and it's probably the most humid city in Turkey no my phone works just perfect everything works doesn't shut itself (for any reason), performance is great but i just gave my phone to a technician and he said that this phone is not like old nokias where everywhere is open so that the humid can leave the phone but this phone is closed so the humid can't get out he's gonna open the phone (from the display so he has a risk of cracking the screen ) he said come pick the phone tomorrow water is short circuiting so the battery uses more amper we'll see i'll inform you tomorrow with the results thanks for your help
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hey just wondering, did you ever fix this issue?
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hey just wondering, did you ever fix this issue?
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İ sent the phone to warranty and i paid like 200$ for motherboard + screen replacements