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Universal suddenly shuts down; battery or other problem?

I recently acquired a HTC Universal for dirt cheap, and have found the first problem to explain the low price: Whenever I'm using a "power-hungry" application (TCPMP, Internet via Wi-Fi) it eventually just blacks out. Full shutdown without warning.
When trying to reactivate the unit, it reboots as if after a soft reset.
In fact, if I try to reactivate it too quickly, even the reboot fails.
None of the above happens when on external power.
This leads me to think that it's nothing worse than a battery that's lost its mojo, but since there is no warning about low battery, and when the reboot finishes successfully even SPB says the battery is somewhere around 70%, I want to run this by you guys.
What do you think? Just go get a new battery, or is there something else going on which will make buying a new battery just a waste of money?

I'd say it's the battery, 99% sure.
I'ts gotten old and its voltage breaks down under load. If you have proper equipment and a glimpse of an idea what you're doing you should drain about 300mA from the battery and measure its output voltage.
You'll most likely see it going below 3.0V quickly.

I'm afraid I don't have that equipment, but all I really needed to hear was that it's probably the battery.
Now I can stop thinking about it and just order a new batery.

Unexpected reboot - Apparently bettery issue
Hey Holybear, my device shows exactly same symptom, If possible let us know if bat replacement solved the issue>

Holy Bear said:
I recently acquired a HTC Universal for dirt cheap, and have found the first problem to explain the low price: Whenever I'm using a "power-hungry" application (TCPMP, Internet via Wi-Fi) it eventually just blacks out. Full shutdown without warning.
When trying to reactivate the unit, it reboots as if after a soft reset.
In fact, if I try to reactivate it too quickly, even the reboot fails.
None of the above happens when on external power.
This leads me to think that it's nothing worse than a battery that's lost its mojo, but since there is no warning about low battery, and when the reboot finishes successfully even SPB says the battery is somewhere around 70%, I want to run this by you guys.
What do you think? Just go get a new battery, or is there something else going on which will make buying a new battery just a waste of money?
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I knew I wasn't the only one withthat problem. I think i've prooved it to be a battery faultt. as if you taake te battery out after it gets to that stage where you just can not get it too complete a boot up without it shuttinng down again
take out battery ,place finer oveer all battery trmminals and plug inn your mainss charger it should now boot up and runn fin off the charger unless your finger slips off the battery terminals. thisshsowws it's the temprature sensor in the battery.
I posted a more in depth reply to a guy in the wm6 threads as wifi heeaating up battery wass shutting off his device as well

@ cyberjak
Hmm, the idea that a temperature sensor in the battery causes this problems is interesting. I'd just expect the device not being cappable of rebooting instantly, because there should be a hysteresis implemented in the battery's protection circuit.
I had the exact same problems and described them elsewhere, but in my case it surely wasn't an issue of temperature.
I'd suggest to take out the battery and wait about an hour for the device and the battery to cool off. Most likely the battery will then take a complete boot but shut down soon after that - without having gotten near to "warm" yet.
If this happens you can be sure that the battery itself is dead without needing to measure anything.

Okay, to tell you what I tried:
I ran the Universal until it spontaneously went dead.
Started bootlaoder to see how much longer it would work on that. Was a bit longer, what with low energy consumption, but soon even that wouldn't stay on for long.
Then decided to try the "old wives' tale" (meaning I don't know whether there's any sense behind it or not) of putting the battery in the freezer for a little while.
When I took it out and let it get back to normal temp, I plugged it in and after a while booted the Universal. It showed 40% battery, lower than it had ever gotten lately.
Recharged for a full day.
Tried TCPMP: went dead after three minutes.
So in my experience the above didn't help battery performance.
Am going to get a new battery in a few days; I'll keep you posted on progress as I try with a fresh battery.

I had the same problem, whenever i did something cpu intensive, it would just black out.
I just bought a new 3100mAh battery. Best thing i ever did. It might be thicker now with the new battery, but it actually feels more comfortable as a phone. Plus the new battery only cost 13 odd quid, so definately well worth it. Oh and it doubles the battery life (3100/1500 = ~2... duh)
Hope that helps.

oh you know wat i have the same problem with my Jasjar and the bigest problem that there is no batteries on market for Jasjars in my country....its looks like im living in Jurassic Century!!!

If you want i can send you a battery xplayer, they're quite cheap here.

Rc-Blob said:
I had the same problem, whenever i did something cpu intensive, it would just black out.
I just bought a new 3100mAh battery. Best thing i ever did. It might be thicker now with the new battery, but it actually feels more comfortable as a phone. Plus the new battery only cost 13 odd quid, so definately well worth it. Oh and it doubles the battery life (3100/1500 = ~2... duh)
Hope that helps.
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I ordered a regular battery replacement, but maybe I'll add a 3100mAh as well.
I could use it as a media player during long train trips.

Holy Bear said:
Okay, to tell you what I tried:
I ran the Universal until it spontaneously went dead.
Started bootlaoder to see how much longer it would work on that. Was a bit longer, what with low energy consumption, but soon even that wouldn't stay on for long.
Then decided to try the "old wives' tale" (meaning I don't know whether there's any sense behind it or not) of putting the battery in the freezer for a little while.
When I took it out and let it get back to normal temp, I plugged it in and after a while booted the Universal. It showed 40% battery, lower than it had ever gotten lately.
Recharged for a full day.
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I revived two batteries by intense cycling to work quite well again. They still black out at 20%, but only under extreme load (active gsm connection, active wifi, bluetooth and having to render a webpage).
But you should be able to discharge them below 25% at least. Else they're most certainly "too dead" already. And you should do at least 3-4 cycles.
My guess would be that the freezer finished your battery off. I don't understand how this method should work anyway, as lower temperatures reduce the time affected capacity loss. Actually the best place to store a LiPo or LIo battery is the fridge, charged about half the way.
But I also ordered two 3100mAh batteries. I'm using the Uni as a laptop replacement and the permanent wifi usage together with some cpu load and the backlight kicks the battery's ass quite hard.
In Germany the China 3100mAhs are overpriced and it's hard to get your hands on an external charger, but on Ebay.co.uk there's a seller that offers battery and charger as a bundle for about 15€. This will give me a solid 6000+mAh per day and should be enough to forget about virtually every setting related to power consumption
@ xplayer
If you haven't donw already, take a look at Ebay.com, co.uk etc and look if one of the sellers there will ship to kurdistan. You may be lucky

Rc-Blob said:
If you want i can send you a battery xplayer, they're quite cheap here.
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Oh Thanx Rc-Blob....bt there is No way even to send me no addresses no posting in my country...am from kurdistan of Iraq...thanks again its looks like u sent me one...bt I even have brother in USA he can't send me...except if some one come from there so i have to wait...thanks buddy...

EvilJogga said:
I revived two batteries by intense cycling to work quite well again. They still black out at 20%, but only under extreme load (active gsm connection, active wifi, bluetooth and having to render a webpage).
But you should be able to discharge them below 25% at least. Else they're most certainly "too dead" already. And you should do at least 3-4 cycles.
My guess would be that the freezer finished your battery off. I don't understand how this method should work anyway, as lower temperatures reduce the time affected capacity loss. Actually the best place to store a LiPo or LIo battery is the fridge, charged about half the way.
But I also ordered two 3100mAh batteries. I'm using the Uni as a laptop replacement and the permanent wifi usage together with some cpu load and the backlight kicks the battery's ass quite hard.
In Germany the China 3100mAhs are overpriced and it's hard to get your hands on an external charger, but on Ebay.co.uk there's a seller that offers battery and charger as a bundle for about 15€. This will give me a solid 6000+mAh per day and should be enough to forget about virtually every setting related to power consumption
@ xplayer
If you haven't donw already, take a look at Ebay.com, co.uk etc and look if one of the sellers there will ship to kurdistan. You may be lucky
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hhh ok buddy you too for care....but there is realy no way i have to wait tell some one(my brothers friend) come from USA so he can get me one from there....its ok...i can use it yet as a normal mobile...i have some other devices for multimedia right now i can wait there is no any other ways....thanks...

Rc-Blob said:
If you want i can send you a battery xplayer, they're quite cheap here.
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Thanx for helping the guy,yo folks on xda are the best

Just to give you all the end of the story:
I ordered a regular replacement and a 3200 mAh one, and both have returned my Universal to a well-used life.
Thanks again to everyone helping me out here.

For you guys does the device switch off only when the battery is low, or any time. Cause I have this problem as well, and I was SURE that it wasn't a battery problem until I read this thread. The phone switches off intermittently, sometimes after only 3' talk time right after it had been charging for a full 8 hours! Also, usually if I let it sit there for a few hours I could then turn it back on and it would last a full day, so I knew it wasn't due to low battery.
The overheating theory would explain my problem, as, now that I think about it, all my seemingly-random shutdowns were during radio activity (making or receiving calls, especially when the phone was searching for signal, or wifi, which would almost instantly kill it). Strange that it overheats like this, most phone batteries simply run out of charge faster and faster until they can't hold a charge at all, but mine lasts almost as long as it always lasted even though it's 2 years old - unless I get the shutdown thing of course.

I asked this in another thread, but since this one is full of people who got replacement batteries I'll repeat my question here as well:
How much thicker than the standard battery are the 3100 and the 4200mAh ones?

I also got this problem recently, so I bought a new battery and although it's only a 1600mAh battery it runs great again

hey roodkapje ive got that same problem with my battery for my spv m5000 the bad news is that i cant get that batery in barbados so im all out to see

Critical battery temperature

Hey. Does someone you know, what is the highest (read: critical) battery and HW temperature in this phone? I am a little bit scared when I'm getting even 55*C on battery when I am using it as a navigation connected to charger in a car. I know it's too high because when it's heating over 49*C it stops charging. My question is how dangerous is such high temperature for HW and Battery? Is it normal behavior?

I never had such high temperatures, and I live on a hot country (Brazil). Try to check apps running in background, or, if you are using 3G and charger, it can get really hot. But I think it's normal, since my phone reaches 45ºC while charging, and I don't use 3G.

with 3g my phone gets crazy hot. i once left it on overnight (it didnt go to sleep) and when i woke up it felt dangerously hot, musta been 50deg or something
otherwise, with wifi it just gets warm... still worrying though, considering none of my other portable devices have ever gotten this hot before... just shows where all of the battery life goes to! :S
i dont think its the battery getting hot though, it must be the cell chip. my batt temps are usually pretty low, and the batt itself doesnt seem to get hot. its just the panel above the battery that warms up

My phone got so high temperature (55*C) when I was using navigation. Moreover it was pluged to the car charger (but wasn't charging because of high temperature) and mounted to the window in hot sunny day. And I'd like to know how dangerous is such high temp. for the device.

I wonder if we have dud phones? my battery life sucks ass... bare able on wifi, but **** with 3g

Agree with scott. With prolonged use my battery doesnt heat up, just the panel above the battery (where the camera is)
And my battery life sucks too. Gotta keep it charged in the car for even short (30 min) trips with navigation
Sent from my MotoA953 using XDA App

Try checking the manual (if there is) for operating temperatures etc.
I'm not exactly sure of how it'll affect the phone but it poses health problems due to higher radiations.
Try preventing this by ensuring all other (running) apps that you don't need are closed by using a task killer and all connectivity stuffs (eg. bluetooth, data sync) ESPECIALLY THE BACKGROUND DATA if you don't need it. Also, if possible try to refrain from covering the back panel (mainly the area near the camera) and allow ventilation to let it cool so it won't overheat.
What else I do is leaving the keyboard opened so there's even more surface area for it to cool.
The problem isn't just about damage, but that you don't want to be holding hot metal.
Yes it sucks but its a price to pay for such high specs packed in such a tiny casing.
My friend who owns Samsung Galaxy II has his phone heating up even more frequently and quickly, so we're not the only ones

Its annoying because we know its avoidable and shouldnt have been allowed in the final design by motorola

I've never seen such high temperatures with my M 2.
Highest was 47ºC while charging and playing a game. It usually sits around 35-36ºC idle, and 40-42º during games.

scottyn said:
I wonder if we have dud phones? my battery life sucks ass... bare able on wifi, but **** with 3g
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And my battery life sucks too. Gotta keep it charged in the car for even short (30 min) trips with navigation
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That's normal guys... Every device dying in a "few minutes" with 3G. And U know what? From my last 3 devices which I have been using to surf in the Internet with 3G (Moto RIZR Z8, Nokia N86, Moto Milestone 2), MM2 lasts the longest.
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Agree with scott. With prolonged use my battery doesnt heat up, just the panel above the battery (where the camera is)
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That's right, but every app just showing the battery temperature

Damn..
Yesterday my milestone 2 became hotter as ever, just above the battery (where the camera is, like newbietown). First I turned it off, but it stayed hot even then. After I removed the battery it became cool again.
But! Now my MS2 is completely dead...
It's really not turning on again, and charging is really weird (irregular flashin led). And my warranty is void because of me installing argen2stone I guess ..

Well, just flash a stock rom and they'll never know...

My phone is not recognized on my computer using USB . Can I still use rsd lite?

First get to bootloader mode: Power + Volume Up (or down) + Camera
If battery is too low you'll need to buy a relacement or a external charger.
Sent from my Milestone 2 XDA App

Try taking it to warranty. Argen2Stone is so lightly modded, maybe they won't mind it. Anyway, you have nothing to lose now. And this really looks like a HW problem, not SW
Sent from my A953

Beginning of next week I will hand it in for warranty. I think it has something to do with the power circuit in the phone. Sometime i've used HTC chargers (1A) instead of the motorola charger (0,85A).. That could be the cause Hopefully they cannot see that.

I don't think that's a problem. I always use a Nokia charger, I find the original charger too short, the Nokia has a good lenght. And I never had problems with overheating. Also, 1A is the maximum current that the charger can provide, not the nominal [email protected] anytime
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[Q] Battery Life

Hello Guys,
I have a new Samsung Focus, around 3 days old.. I have been given a 1650 mAH battery. The battery life is terrible, discharges like 10% in one hour with hardly any usage with Wifi OFF, Edge ON, auto brightness and all the power saver methods applied.
Should i charge it overnight or something ? Like 12 hours at a stretch or something?
Pls help

I'd take the battery out and feel it. If it's a Samsung battery, it should be perfectly flat on the sides. I was having terrible battery life, and it was because the battery had gone so bad that it was bulging.

samsungfocus12 said:
Hello Guys,
I have a new Samsung Focus, around 3 days old.. I have been given a 1650 mAH battery. The battery life is terrible, discharges like 10% in one hour with hardly any usage with Wifi OFF, Edge ON, auto brightness and all the power saver methods applied.
Should i charge it overnight or something ? Like 12 hours at a stretch or something?
Pls help
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Can you please detail your WP7 OS build, if it's an OEM Samsung battery or a generic one? It looks like you have a bad battery, same conditions as yours my one year+ OEM battery holds 3days+
There's also a specific thread for battery life I started a while ago over here

The battery is curved on the left and right sides, flat on the top and bottom. Its a SAMSUNG battery EB575152LU 1650 mAh. I am not sure if its OEM or generic
OS version : 7.10.7720.68
Should i ask the seller to send me a 1500mAh NEW battery? mayb thats causing the issues?
Or I should wait for a few charge cycles to complete?

samsungfocus12 said:
The battery is curved on the left and right sides, flat on the top and bottom. Its a SAMSUNG battery EB575152LU 1650 mAh. I am not sure if its OEM or generic
OS version : 7.10.7720.68
Should i ask the seller to send me a 1500mAh NEW battery? mayb thats causing the issues?
Or I should wait for a few charge cycles to complete?
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With the infos that you just shared, it looks as the battery has gone bad.
I wasn't aware of an OEM battery 1650 mAh, see my reply here. Can you confirm it looks like that or maybe post a photo of it?
Keep in mind that cheap batteries look like those but there are significant differences, but you'd need an original battery for comparison.
Even one of my chinese cheap batteries still holds 70-80% of the regular battery... (that's 2+ days in the conditions you mentioned above)

It looks just like the one in your post, except for 1650mAh. Looks like original/OEM Samsung.. will send pics once i get home.
Morning charge was at 100% . Hardly any usage, some amount of whatsapp texting, now phone is switched off
The seller has agreed to send a replacement battery. I am just hoping that it is not a phone fault or Mango update screwed it up. Can it be a phone issue?
Checked on amazon, one guy said The battery does not hold charge, otehr said that NEAR FIELD COMMUNICATIOn should be written below Samsung, which is not the case in mine.

samsungfocus12 said:
It looks just like the one in your post, except for 1650mAh. Looks like original/OEM Samsung.. will send pics once i get home.
Morning charge was at 100% . Hardly any usage, some amount of whatsapp texting, now phone is switched off
The seller has agreed to send a replacement battery. I am just hoping that it is not a phone fault or Mango update screwed it up. Can it be a phone issue?
Checked on amazon, one guy said The battery does not hold charge, otehr said that NEAR FIELD COMMUNICATIOn should be written below Samsung, which is not the case in mine.
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7720 has quite good battery life so shouldn't be a phone issue. I have 2 Focuses and both hold about the same and from what I've read so far, only a big hardware problem (like phone overheating) could cause so dramatic battery discharge. Also, weak network signal might cause faster drainage, but not at this rate. You can try switching 3G off (lowering to EDGE) and see if it makes any difference.

Hmm.. I even turned off 3G. Let me check again.
If I install any customs WP7 roms , will it make a difference.?
I 'll re check once i get the new batteries..
Thanks for your help. Appreciated

samsungfocus12 said:
Hmm.. I even turned off 3G. Let me check again.
If I install any customs WP7 roms , will it make a difference.?
I 'll re check once i get the new batteries..
Thanks for your help. Appreciated
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The dft/miro custom roms offer better battery life, but by a margin, don't expect miracles. Your battery should be able to hold more than a day in your conditions, and I bet that's to blame in your case.
Let us know how it goes with the new battery.

Thanks for your help.
Now, the battery life has increased quite a bit.. getting around 12 hours on a full charge using the same 1650mAh battery . new one is yet to arrive.
Heard 8107 update considerably increases the battery life? but i have ATT uncloked focus in India. If i use ChevronWP7 to unlock it , it gets relocked on zune sync right? I am confused as to "relock" here is whether Carrier relock like I cannot use my local GSM sim here? or developer relock? I am sorry, new to all this

samsungfocus12 said:
Thanks for your help.
Now, the battery life has increased quite a bit.. getting around 12 hours on a full charge using the same 1650mAh battery . new one is yet to arrive.
Heard 8107 update considerably increases the battery life? but i have ATT uncloked focus in India. If i use ChevronWP7 to unlock it , it gets relocked on zune sync right? I am confused as to "relock" here is whether Carrier relock like I cannot use my local GSM sim here? or developer relock? I am sorry, new to all this
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Read my post here. Ignore any flashing, just understand the steps and what's written there (eg: Flashing, downgrading, upgrading firmware etc does not affect Network Unlock).
Basically, after you unlock with WindowsBreak project, you just need to run steps 3 and 4 there.

what is the most powerful battery out there for our focus??? any suggestion?

alejandroelmej said:
what is the most powerful battery out there for our focus??? any suggestion?
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Read this post on the battery life thread. It's a Samsung EB625152VA (OEM) battery of 1800 mAh. There are others labelled with more mAh, but many are scams, rebranded.

hi, i got a Samsung EB625152VA (OEM) battery of 1800 mAh.
But it seems the back cover doesnt fit so properly with this battery inside.
Do i need to do any modifications in order to make it fit ?

15% in 1 hour
While surfing in internet via wifi, in 1 hour it drains 15% of battery, is it normal?

aFaridun said:
While surfing in internet via wifi, in 1 hour it drains 15% of battery, is it normal?
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Continuous browsing/data transfer, yes, it's about normal.

Samsung s7 Edge not compatible with os 6.0.1?

Hello guys!.It's my first time here. So, I have some questions regarding this problem
I bought my S7E around july, and it had amazing battery life, It lasted around 30hours++ but I drained the battery by playing games so I can charge my phone before 5pm(my office hours) to avoid over charging when I go to bed. I even used the best perfomance that time, gps on, gestures on, etc.But still at least it lasted for 27hours.Now, it only lasts for about 12 hours something. Ive never overcharged it. The moment I saw the green led, i plugged off the charger.
Can anyone fix this? well please don't tell me to turn off all the features, I had them on and still I got to use 27hours. I dont know when I did the update, maybe os 6.0.1 is draining the battery?or any suggestion?
Thank you

Go to Settings>Battery and view the usage to see what app is using it much battery.

You can NOT overcharge the battery of your S7 Edge. I've always kept my phones on the charger over night and never had problems. I'm doing that since the HTC Magic (T-Mobile G1). It has overcharge protection. It is NOT good to drain a Lithium-Ion battery down to a few %. A Lithium-Ion battery operates the best when charged >40% and at average room temperature. For more info, visit batteryuniversity.com.

nitrous² said:
You can NOT overcharge the battery of your S7 Edge. I've always kept my phones on the charger over night and never had problems. I'm doing that since the HTC Magic (T-Mobile G1). It has overcharge protection. It is NOT good to drain a Lithium-Ion battery down to a few %. A Lithium-Ion battery operates the best when charged >40% and at average room temperature. For more info, visit batteryuniversity.com.
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Nope. I never drain my battery.I keep my battery until 20% then charge it directly. I know how to take care of Lion battery. Ive heard about the overcharging protection feature but i'm not sure whether it works.we never know whether that program runs on background or not since we cant track it.

kylelopez20 said:
Go to Settings>Battery and view the usage to see what app is using it much battery.
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well,i tracked that down but found nothing.all normal. but still 30hours down to 12 is real problem.

chriszzz18 said:
Nope. I never drain my battery.I keep my battery until 20% then charge it directly. I know how to take care of Lion battery. Ive heard about the overcharging protection feature but i'm not sure whether it works.we never know whether that program runs on background or not since we cant track it.
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Well, then don't charge overnight. You're problem is most likely software related anyway unless your battery is very old and/or you overstressed the battery too often which can't be because the S7 Edge isn't that old and you "...know how to take care of Lion battery". I think you meant Li-Ion but w/e. A defective battery is possible but very unlikely. BTW overcharge protection is not a program. It's a physical thing soldered onto the battery/charger PCB. Hardware. There's one built into the battery and one inside the charger and of course we can track it. You can't because you probably don't have the equipment + knowledge to test it. If you're so concerned, you should really read about it. After all, you're dealing with a highly reactive metal.

nitrous² said:
Well, then don't charge overnight. You're problem is most likely software related anyway unless your battery is very old and/or you overstressed the battery too often which can't be because the S7 Edge isn't that old and you "...know how to take care of Lion battery". I think you meant Li-Ion but w/e. A defective battery is possible but very unlikely. BTW overcharge protection is not a program. It's a physical thing soldered onto the battery/charger PCB. Hardware. There's one built into the battery and one inside the charger and of course we can track it. You can't because you probably don't have the equipment + knowledge to test it. If you're so concerned, you should really read about it. After all, you're dealing with a highly reactive metal.
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Well that's why i charge my phone at my office:crying:
i wonder if the OS is the problem. I've heard about drivers not compatible on s7 using 6.0.1 so the background data keeps working such as gear vr service. It wasnt there before. and OM Customize. So, if i overstressed my battery, it will damage my battery? I did that before to charge my phone between morning to evening.

chriszzz18 said:
Well that's why i charge my phone at my office:crying:
i wonder if the OS is the problem. I've heard about drivers not compatible on s7 using 6.0.1 so the background data keeps working such as gear vr service. It wasnt there before. and OM Customize. So, if i overstressed my battery, it will damage my battery? I did that before to charge my phone between morning to evening.
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You're hearing really weird things buddy The S7 Edge has always been running Android 6.x.x. It never ran any other Android version. The drivers are fully compatible. In fact, the drivers on a Samsung are as compatible as drivers can get, since SoC, Camera Sensor and many other parts of the phone are coming from the same manufacturer; Samsung.
My guess, and I can only guess since we'd have to see your battery stats for more detailed explanations, is that you either ran into the Android System-, or Google Play Services battery drain bug that occurs after an OTA update. These problems date back all the way back to the Galaxy S2.
I'd recommend you first flash a stock ROM using the "HOME_CSC" file. This will NOT wipe anything from your phone. Only the core system and stuff will be reinstalled. If you still have this problem, try flashing a stock firmware using the regular "CSC" file. Always make a backup first. The regular CSC file will WIPE EVERYTHING from your phone, including internal storage but it won't touch you MicroSD. Now you start with a freshly installed Android and see if it solved your problem.

nitrous² said:
You're hearing really weird things buddy The S7 Edge has always been running Android 6.x.x. It never ran any other Android version. The drivers are fully compatible. In fact, the drivers on a Samsung are as compatible as drivers can get, since SoC, Camera Sensor and many other parts of the phone are coming from the same manufacturer; Samsung.
My guess, and I can only guess since we'd have to see your battery stats for more detailed explanations, is that you either ran into the Android System-, or Google Play Services battery drain bug that occurs after an OTA update. These problems date back all the way back to the Galaxy S2.
I'd recommend you first flash a stock ROM using the "HOME_CSC" file. This will NOT wipe anything from your phone. Only the core system and stuff will be reinstalled. If you still have this problem, try flashing a stock firmware using the regular "CSC" file. Always make a backup first. The regular CSC file will WIPE EVERYTHING from your phone, including internal storage but it won't touch you MicroSD. Now you start with a freshly installed Android and see if it solved your problem.
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Hello mate,I am sorry for my late reply since I gave up. I am trying to solve this again.
Well, can you tell me where can i get the stock firmware? I am from Indonesia(well I think some parts of the continents have different firmware).I wanted to flash it tho but I am afraid I got some "hacked" firmware.
well,the battery usage looks normal to me.
google play services around 5-15%
android OS 15-20%
android system 15-20%
but still,it drains too much>,<
Let me try to upload a pict of it.
Additional information : Slept 8 hours while listening to music and it drained from 55% to 2%.I mean this is really insane.That's why I am taking serious action now. The first time I bought it with the same settings and apps + I turned on always on display and night clock while listening to the music for 8 hours of sleeping,it only drains 10-20%.
I took this ss because I got 30hours on time : link
these are the drained ones.15Nov and 9 Dec
15Nov
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First out of all. How much SOT (Screen On Time) do You get?
To check that go to battery usage at the end of the day or when You have 20% and in battery usage tap on screen and take a screenshot.
Second.
Certain firmware updates decrease battery life a little.
And third.
You can disable apps that are draining Your battery if You don't need them.
Also for a really good battery info what uses Your battery etc You can download GSAM battery monitor from play store.

ProtoDeVNan0 said:
First out of all. How much SOT (Screen On Time) do You get?
To check that go to battery usage at the end of the day or when You have 20% and in battery usage tap on screen and take a screenshot.
Second.
Certain firmware updates decrease battery life a little.
And third.
You can disable apps that are draining Your battery if You don't need them.
Also for a really good battery info what uses Your battery etc You can download GSAM battery monitor from play store.
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well from the time being, i think my network operator is draining my battery.I tried to turn off my mobile network last night and used wifi instead.I lost 1% for 8 hours.Well, I changed my network operator around october and since then I felt the battery drain. I already sent report to the provider hope they solve it.
But I wonder, my network operator has good 4g coverage here, why does it drain too much? My old operator had only 3g coverage.Is there any way for me to track down my operator whether they are using too much battery to search network coverage maybe?

Newest firmware always decrease battery life a little

Is this battery consumption normal?

Hi all,
I just come with this Screenshots to know your opinion on the consumption of my s5. Honestly Im jealous of those people getting 4,5hours of SOT in a full charge. I believe I can barely achieve 2h. My phone is rooted, de bloated with smart debloater and uses Greenify (which has not provided me a noticeable gain).
I've seen a very big drain just after plugging off the phone (like 5 or 6%) in two hours without using it. Also everything I unlock the phone the drain is very fast. So idle state seems no to be the cause
What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
By the way, while writing this post I've lost 5% of charge.

paco_ramirez said:
Hi all,
I just come with this Screenshots to know your opinion on the consumption of my s5. Honestly Im jealous of those people getting 4,5hours of SOT in a full charge. I believe I can barely achieve 2h. My phone is rooted, de bloated with smart debloater and uses Greenify (which has not provided me a noticeable gain).
I've seen a very big drain just after plugging off the phone (like 5 or 6%) in two hours without using it. Also everything I unlock the phone the drain is very fast. So idle state seems no to be the cause
What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
By the way, while writing this post I've lost 5% of charge.
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Need a new battery I think and with the battery you gotta keep it cool, don't charge you phone and use it when its under 20 ℅. And the hotter the battery gets the faster it will discharge and if your charging at the same time the CPU will work harder to charge the battery and do whatever you want to do with your phone making it a double whammy wearing out your battery much faster than normal. You not supposed to let our batteries to go below 20 %. Well you can but don't use it at the same time your charging.

Zer0b1ade said:
Need a new battery I think and with the battery you gotta keep it cool, don't charge you phone and use it when its under 20 ℅. And the hotter the battery gets the faster it will discharge and if your charging at the same time the CPU will work harder to charge the battery and do whatever you want to do with your phone making it a double whammy wearing out your battery much faster than normal. You not supposed to let our batteries to go below 20 %. Well you can but don't use it at the same time your charging.
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Thank you very much for your information. Any suggestion about a new battery? I've seen this one.
I've just plugged off from 100% and I got a battery drain of 5% just by speaking 15 minutes (no hand-free). I think it's a very big battery drain for just a small talk. I think that confirm your hypothesis of the wasted battery.
Is there any way to know the real capacity of the battery I currently have? It is just to know how far it is from its original performance.

I've checked on Go Power Master app and it claims 2520 (at 90%) mah in my battery. Is this confident? If so, I shouldn't expect a big improvement buying a new battery. What about using other roms or making a factory reset?.

paco_ramirez said:
I've checked on Go Power Master app and it claims 2520 (at 90%) mah in my battery. Is this confident? If so, I shouldn't expect a big improvement buying a new battery. What about using other roms or making a factory reset?.
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How old is your battery? Mah rating and the rate it discharges are different you can discharge 2600 mah batter in an hour or 3 days depending on use and environment and conditions. Like I said before the hotter your battery gets the faster the disharge go same with the cpu the hotter it gets the more power it demands from the battery. And if your battery get under 20% fast charging comes. Into play as well which is bad for the battery as well.
If your dropping off that fast I think is a defective battery or over clocked cpu settings. My s5 did he same till I bought a new battery I last 8-12 hours of heavy use now compared to 4 hours. With a new battery I suggest a higher capacity but same dimensions as the old one they can be expensive but a bigger battery will damage your phone over time.
I have a 5600mah battery now by 5he way.
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Oh my power app tells me I have 2520 too but I really dont....heh
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Oh that battery looks OK I can't read the language lol just make sure its not refurbished or used and check out if u can refund it or not lol

My battery is from October 2015. It's the original one that came with the phone

Here is last report:
Despite performance is not the worst, do you think the difference with a new one is very big?

Back in my S3 Mini days I had to change the battery and the difference was huge for it. A year ago I replaced my S5's battery for the first time (I own my black beauty since february 2015) and I remember that I saw an improvement in battery life and in performance a bit as well.
A trick: take out your battery and put it on a flat surface (table or whatever) and try to spin it. If it spins freely, buy new one for sure.
I'd advise you to also update from KitKat to Marshmallow as that made my phone brand new but I see you're on 6.0.1 already so nevermind
I myself lose the first ~10% of my charge in one hour or even less...while not doing literally anything with my screen off. So yeah, maybe it's gonna be time for another replacement in a few months
By the way I tried Greenify today. The drain was far worse than when I didn't have it installed lol. Android Marshmallow is finally that one guy who's capable of handling himself alone without helpers like Greenify so try without it, it eats up your CPU anyway (as minimal as it can be, it still does).
With 3G always enabled I can get between 3 and 4 hours of screen on time (no games ofcourse) and around, idk, 10 hours total time until it hits below 10% and asks for some juice.
This^ was simply impossible with android 4.4.2 on the same phone so 6.0.1 really impressed me a lot as I had awful memories of Lollipop (that's why I didn't update for so long actually).
To sum up: try all the software ways of extending your battery life - with/without Greenify, uninstall/disable/optimise certain apps like Facebook and Spotify (says they slow down my phone), change ROMs, change kernels, change settings and if nothing works get a new battery.
PS: When Samsung go back on track and put a removable battery + all old features in a new flagship, I'm switching to that (S9, S10, SX, whatever xd). Newer phones got water cooling (~30 degrees while gaming, S5 gets 36-40C).

Thank you very much for your long answer. Honestly I don't trust too much battery savers. I've tried in the past many of them with no visible results. In fact greenify has never shown me any benefit. Notwithstanding, in this specific case, I've seen that hibernating "mi fit" (from xiaomi) I can appreciate a considerable improvement (5-10% of gain). I own a mi band and apart from keeping Bluetooth on (which seems not to be a big drainer) mi fit abuses of this connection. In fact "tools & mi band" seems to be more energy efficient with the connection to the mi band.
In any case I'll order a new one as it is not normal to have the drain for 100 to 90 being off and idle

I've changed old battery for a new one and I haven't seen any considerable improvement. After it, I've done a factory reset and a battery calibration (using the app on the store that requires root) and nothing... Any suggestion? I have the feeling that new battery is OK but somehow my phone is unable to take advantage of its performance...

koragg97 said:
Back in my S3 Mini days I had to change the battery and the difference was huge for it. A year ago I replaced my S5's battery for the first time (I own my black beauty since february 2015) and I remember that I saw an improvement in battery life and in performance a bit as well.
A trick: take out your battery and put it on a flat surface (table or whatever) and try to spin it. If it spins freely, buy new one for sure.
I'd advise you to also update from KitKat to Marshmallow as that made my phone brand new but I see you're on 6.0.1 already so nevermind :..
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Ive just unplugged it 50 minutes ago and I have 10 percent left with only 10 minutes screen off... There is something wrong and I don't think the two batteries (old and new) are in bad state in the same way... There may be something else..

Have you tried to install the stock firmware through odin? PS: Read the instruction before trying it!!!

paco_ramirez said:
Ive just unplugged it 50 minutes ago and I have 10 percent left with only 10 minutes screen off... There is something wrong and I don't think the two batteries (old and new) are in bad state in the same way... There may be something else..
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Make nandroid backup with TWRP and flash official firmware. That's just not normal for any kind of battery (good or bad)

tm60405 said:
Have you tried to install the stock firmware through odin? PS: Read the instruction before trying it!!!
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Make nandroid backup with TWRP and flash official firmware. That's just not normal for any kind of battery (good or bad)
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Right now I have DreamUX V2 A7 (2017). I flashed one week ago hoping to remove this strange battery behavior. But it remains. Do you think reflashing stock firmware will fix it? I'll check instructions before going ahead. Thanks to both!

paco_ramirez said:
Right now I have DreamUX V2 A7 (2017). I flashed one week ago hoping to remove this strange battery behavior. But it remains. Do you think reflashing stock firmware will fix it? I'll check instructions before going ahead. Thanks to both!
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If it gets fixed after firmware reinstall then it's a software bug. If it gets fixed after changing the battery then it's a hardware bug. If it doesn't get fixed after trying both things then it's black magic :s
Also try to clear dalvik-cache and cache and do factory reset before and after flashing.

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If it gets fixed after firmware reinstall then it's a software bug. If it gets fixed after changing the battery then it's a hardware bug. If it doesn't get fixed after trying both things then it's black magic :s
Also try to clear dalvik-cache and cache and do factory reset before and after flashing.
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OK I'll go ahead with this. Good guide to reflash stock rom?
I'll do several factory resets to see if it helps, but I start to think that it's black magic
Thanks

Sorry for the delay in replaying but I've made several attempts with not specially good results.
Now I'm getting 24 hours battery with 2h SOC for WhatsApp and browsing. Furthermore, I use Bluetooth for the miband.
The battery drop from 100 to 90 still remains. Maybe it's smoother but significant.
I've changed battery, changed roms (several times wiping everything). I've tried battery calibration app from rooted devices. I've tried the calibration procedure for non root devices (here I think I've obtained a little bit of improvement) but in general I have the feeling my phone is not detecting well the capacity of the battery (either new or old). Any tip? Advice?. Could it be the charging circuit? Can it be fixed? Should I keep doing calibrations more often to see if I grasp more capacity little by little?
Thanks for your time and help