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I have a Nokia 9500. My pda use is 50% and phone 50%. I wish to buy JASJAR. Please help me with a few questions:
1. How is the voice quality and volume on external/ phone side of the phone? Pl compare with 9500 as a benchmark. Is it louder? I work in a noisy environment.
2. I am told phone wakes after 3 rings if in powersave mode. Is it true? Can I disable powersave?
3. Can I pick an incoming call without opening the cover if I do not wish to see caller id?
4. How is the speed compared to 9500? I have 3000 Contacts and 500 calendar entries. It takes a long time to search on 9500. 5-20 seconds
5. How is the phone signal reception. Compare with 9500.
6. Can you send fax from JJ? I do it regularly from 9500.
7. How is messaging?
8. Build quality, especially hinge? One has to open and rotate frequently, because no external phone keypad.
9. Did anybody try bluetooth headset Sony HBH-300?
10. There is no escape key. if I make a type mistake while editing can I come out without saving?
11. Handsfree speaker sound quality?
12. when phone rings there is no light on receive button. Does it really hamper receiving in dark? Of course one can open the screen!
13. Battery? How long does the charge last?
14. When U close cover blue tooth shuts but LED says it is on. Is it true? Is it a nuisance?
I to have been searching for suffice information,for i will be wanting to purchase the JJ within the next week.What are the downsides to the phone?And i was reading somewhere that a headset(wireless)comes with the phone?
If not-which is the best bt-headset for this phone?I have heard the bt-800 from jabra.
Regards
Keyboard quality of JaSJAR
And, how is the keyboard? tactile feedback? ruggedness and long lasting?
i have the jj & using it for 6 months now, i will answer the Qs that i can, the ones i don't have the answer i'll leave blank.
hope this would help.
1. How is the voice quality and volume on external/ phone side of the phone? Pl compare with 9500 as a benchmark. Is it louder? I work in a noisy environment.
i cannot compare it to the 9500 since i never owned one, but i can say the sound quality is pretty good since i'm using it for a while now.
2. I am told phone wakes after 3 rings if in powersave mode. Is it true? Can I disable powersave?
you can do that through a third party software, tweaks 2k2 is a very usefull.
3. Can I pick an incoming call without opening the cover if I do not wish to see caller id?
yes you can, just press the answer button on the side.
4. How is the speed compared to 9500? I have 3000 Contacts and 500 calendar entries. It takes a long time to search on 9500. 5-20 seconds
i heard some 9500 - 9300 users say that the jj is better in search feature, but i cannot confirm for that amount of contacts (i don't know anyone that has that much)
5. How is the phone signal reception. Compare with 9500.
6. Can you send fax from JJ? I do it regularly from 9500.
yes you can through a third party app, but i can say this: the 9500 has the best fax service i've ever seen or heard about.
7. How is messaging?
you can handle it professionally which i can say from others experiences is better than the 9500.
8. Build quality, especially hinge? One has to open and rotate frequently, because no external phone keypad.
after using it since early october, the rotation is still the same with no loose, and i use it daily.
9. Did anybody try bluetooth headset Sony HBH-300?
i tried most of the brands available in the market, the two best headsets i found are the jabra and the SE, in terms of quality. i didn't try the hbh-300 though, i tried the hbh-608.
10. There is no escape key. if I make a type mistake while editing can I come out without saving?
11. Handsfree speaker sound quality?
also i found this a very good quality since it has sterio sound system, with two speakers. though, i ran into some unsatisfied users from time to time.
12. when phone rings there is no light on receive button. Does it really hamper receiving in dark? Of course one can open the screen!
you can put it on vibration
13. Battery? How long does the charge last?
i charge it normally every 3 days of usage (at least) sometimes longer, but eventually it depends on your usage.
14. When U close cover blue tooth shuts but LED says it is on. Is it true? Is it a nuisance?
i hope this can help.
at the end you have to test it for your self to see whats best for you.
cheers.
majdi said:
i have the jj & using it for 6 months now, i will answer the Qs that i can, the ones i don't have the answer i'll leave blank.
hope this would help.
1. How is the voice quality and volume on external/ phone side of the phone? Pl compare with 9500 as a benchmark. Is it louder? I work in a noisy environment.
i cannot compare it to the 9500 since i never owned one, but i can say the sound quality is pretty good since i'm using it for a while now.
2. I am told phone wakes after 3 rings if in powersave mode. Is it true? Can I disable powersave?
you can do that through a third party software, tweaks 2k2 is a very usefull.
3. Can I pick an incoming call without opening the cover if I do not wish to see caller id?
yes you can, just press the answer button on the side.
4. How is the speed compared to 9500? I have 3000 Contacts and 500 calendar entries. It takes a long time to search on 9500. 5-20 seconds
i heard some 9500 - 9300 users say that the jj is better in search feature, but i cannot confirm for that amount of contacts (i don't know anyone that has that much)
5. How is the phone signal reception. Compare with 9500.
6. Can you send fax from JJ? I do it regularly from 9500.
yes you can through a third party app, but i can say this: the 9500 has the best fax service i've ever seen or heard about.
7. How is messaging?
you can handle it professionally which i can say from others experiences is better than the 9500.
8. Build quality, especially hinge? One has to open and rotate frequently, because no external phone keypad.
after using it since early october, the rotation is still the same with no loose, and i use it daily.
9. Did anybody try bluetooth headset Sony HBH-300?
i tried most of the brands available in the market, the two best headsets i found are the jabra and the SE, in terms of quality. i didn't try the hbh-300 though, i tried the hbh-608.
10. There is no escape key. if I make a type mistake while editing can I come out without saving?
11. Handsfree speaker sound quality?
also i found this a very good quality since it has sterio sound system, with two speakers. though, i ran into some unsatisfied users from time to time.
12. when phone rings there is no light on receive button. Does it really hamper receiving in dark? Of course one can open the screen!
you can put it on vibration
13. Battery? How long does the charge last?
i charge it normally every 3 days of usage (at least) sometimes longer, but eventually it depends on your usage.
14. When U close cover blue tooth shuts but LED says it is on. Is it true? Is it a nuisance?
i hope this can help.
at the end you have to test it for your self to see whats best for you.
cheers.
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Can you use the video phone camera for yahoo messenger,msn,aim??
From 9500 to Jasjar
Hello,
I left 9500 for a Jasjar,
pls read my comment here
http://my-symbian.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=198602&highlight=jasjar+vpn+usb#198602
Huib
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Can you use the video phone camera for yahoo messenger,msn,aim??[/quote]
there are lots of tests and efforts going here to make it happen, but i didn't see it yet.
majdi said:
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Can you use the video phone camera for yahoo messenger,msn,aim??
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there are lots of tests and efforts going here to make it happen, but i didn't see it yet.[/quote]
Well is there a test number on this site to connect to someone to make sure the video cam works?
manu407 said:
I have a Nokia 9500. My pda use is 50% and phone 50%. I wish to buy JASJAR. Please help me with a few questions:
1. How is the voice quality and volume on external/ phone side of the phone? Pl compare with 9500 as a benchmark. Is it louder? I work in a noisy environment.
2. I am told phone wakes after 3 rings if in powersave mode. Is it true? Can I disable powersave?
3. Can I pick an incoming call without opening the cover if I do not wish to see caller id?
4. How is the speed compared to 9500? I have 3000 Contacts and 500 calendar entries. It takes a long time to search on 9500. 5-20 seconds
5. How is the phone signal reception. Compare with 9500.
6. Can you send fax from JJ? I do it regularly from 9500.
7. How is messaging?
8. Build quality, especially hinge? One has to open and rotate frequently, because no external phone keypad.
9. Did anybody try bluetooth headset Sony HBH-300?
10. There is no escape key. if I make a type mistake while editing can I come out without saving?
11. Handsfree speaker sound quality?
12. when phone rings there is no light on receive button. Does it really hamper receiving in dark? Of course one can open the screen!
13. Battery? How long does the charge last?
14. When U close cover blue tooth shuts but LED says it is on. Is it true? Is it a nuisance?
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Well i just got my i-mate JASJAR(BRAND NEW AND UNLOCKED!!!) and i am well beyond pleased!size is alright ,but hey!this is like the prototype of whats to come within the next couple of years!Its like when the first handheld Cellphone came out!Big as PHUCK!but then reduced its size over the years,Same thing with the pocketpc,starting big and will eventually reduce in size...im lucky because i did not get all of the skype,anti-virus extras-just the basics (meaning everything but the junk!)and all of the hardware(meaning chargers etc.)
The person i bought mine from is David of Mad Monkey Boy Gadgets.He put up with over 25 hours of telephone conversation and over 65 emails within a 2 week time span from me!and never once did he get angry or anything of the nature!
Here is the link if you would like to check out his site:
Code:
http://www.dweiniger.com/index.shtml
Just a thought, i know that symbian phones have a software which utilize the accelerometer and mutes the phone call when turned over. is it possible to have a software to use the fort facing camera or back camera in our wm6 devices to detect light during the even of an incoming phone call? it doesnt need to be on all the time so it does not drain the battery and just turned on during phone calls. so front facing camera should detect either "dark-light-dark" (when in pocket) or "light-dark" when the phone is already out. hope that make senses.
what do you guys think? is it a good idea?
not sure if camera can be used for that purpose at all. I think u need extra hardware for that.
When a phone call is coming in the device has to take care of the following actions:
-device wake up
- initiate the incoming call screen
- start number identification (compare to address book)
- start ringer
Your idea would add the following actions:
- initiate (front)camera
- wait for camera to detect current lightning conditions
- if lighting is below a certain value mute sound
I would think that it takes to long to go trough the complete cyclus.
When you make a call to a PocketPC it takes about two "normal" rings to make a device ring. If you add the extra feature it might even be 4 or 5. Before you can even react the caller might already be redirected to the voice mail I'm afraid.
i thought of that mccune, but u will need another program to analyze the bringhtness, may be a new library, or tap into camera library, which I dont think it's easy to do.
you are right, it's probably not idea to execute camera function while phone ringing, worst case scenario the phone hang, or the call got disconnected.
but i love to see it works
well i see it that if the front camera activate when there is an incoming video call then wm6 should be able to handle just detecting the light effect without hanging. just a thought, at least its a start for all of us that do not have accelerometer and it can be develop for some other use too.
Having been a long time reader and following the rise and birth of the HD2, I'm just about to order one till I saw the Alarm issue .
I have 4 basic needs:
Alarm
Bluetooth Voice recognition
Texting
and good call quality
I need it to wake me as an alarm is basic and should over ride silent mode and go for more than 2 beeps .
Bluetooth hands free, I need this to work as I need it while driving. How easy is it to get working with Nokia BT headset, and can it work like the n95 with auto voice recognition? Heard you can install MirosoftVoice thingy, but where from?
I have read a lot of problems about Texts. Presume this will be sorted shortly.
Good call quality, self explanatory, so don't like the sound of blastingly loud crackling volume.
I use a pc for emails as mailwasher filters out all the sp*nk mail so I don't intend to use it for emails.
Am I going to get the right phone? I love the look of the HD2, nearly bought the HD.
Liked the iphones that I played with but hated the handcuffed options and itunes. Shame that every gadget or accessory in shops is geared towards iphone.
Need some help.
Cheers,
Steve
Will that be a "No can't do the basics" then?
Alarm: Built in alarm is fairly basic, it does override silent mode and you can set 3 alarm times with days and the sound. Snooze mode is also included. If you need more, there are great applications like G-Alarm.
Bluetooth: I can pair it with my Bluetooth headset, it's simple and works just like it's supposed to. I don't know how to map a key of the headset to MS Voice Command but I'm pretty sure that this can be done.
Texting: Some people had problems, but disabling HTC Messaging is a simple fix that silves the problems. I've not had any problem with texting yet.
Call Quality: It's pretty good, IMHO. Not the best among all phones, but very good for a smartphone, better than most other smartphones.
1. Alarm works quite well for me, but I have a very light sleep, and almost every sound wakes me up. The only thing about HD2 that didn't wake me up was the battery notification (that it is under 10%)
3.. Texting - quite satisfied, only twice (I have the device for 3 full weeks now) I noticed the sms bug (sms not being sent from outbox), but soft reset solved those things. On my HD2 (with 1.43 WWE East Europe stock ROM) it appeared only when weather didn't want to update, so I kinda knew when it was appearing.
4. Call quality is very good, much better than on my old Nokia 8600 Luna
I've noticed my phone always starts to ring at where I set the volume to and then escalates to be very loud after a few seconds. I didnt see any settings to change this. Is this happening to anybody else?
Is it in your pocket when it does that?
I noticed in the HTC Sense demo video it says if it is in your pocket or purse it will ring loud so you can hear it. I think it has to do with proximity and light sources. If i have it sitting out, it will ring quietly, but it is always loud in my pocket.
adamr240 said:
Is it in your pocket when it does that?
I noticed in the HTC Sense demo video it says if it is in your pocket or purse it will ring loud so you can hear it. I think it has to do with proximity and light sources. If i have it sitting out, it will ring quietly, but it is always loud in my pocket.
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Actually yeah. Thats usually when it gets loud. I dont really like that as it gets super loud sometimes. Why wouldnt they have a setting for this?
Any news on this? Because I also find it quite annoying that the ringer is so loud even when I'm sitting in the quiet office...
alphanimal said:
Any news on this? Because I also find it quite annoying that the ringer is so loud even when I'm sitting in the quiet office...
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I have the same issue! It happens on ALL Sense ROM's. If I am running AOSP (CM6 or MIUI) it is not an issue. Are there any ways to disable this setting if it is supposed to do so? Mine is on my belt in a case and when I'm in the office it rings way too loud. If the phone is on my desk it rings as I have the volume set.
Actually I found you can disable the loud ringer in settings really easy
Settings --> Sound --> Pocket mode
There's no way to adjust the volume though,
Apparently the Shift has the same issue as my EVO or as Sprint would call it..."feature".
http://forum.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=669629#post669629
You would think there was an app out there to override this.
alphanimal said:
Actually I found you can disable the loud ringer in settings really easy
Settings --> Sound --> Pocket mode
There's no way to adjust the volume though,
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What device/ROM are you running? There is no setting for Pocket mode under settings -> sound on the stock EVO Shift 4G (at least not on mine). Anyone else find this?
I have a Desire Z with the original ROM (Froyo + Sense)
alphanimal said:
I have a Desire Z with the original ROM (Froyo + Sense)
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that setting dont apply to shift
Did a complete wipe 2x using Amon Ra Recovery 2.3 and then flashed a stock image file from HBOOT and updated WiMAX, PRI & NV Radio. The issue was not present on the stock ROM. Wiped the stock ROM and flashed Myn's RLS5.....no more issues. Something was corrupt and enabled the sensor to trigger ring loud (when covered or senses low light) as it is designed to do on the Shift. The EVO does not have Pocket Mode in settings. Whatever the cause.....it is now resolved!
I sent a tweet in the direction of @htc about this yesterday, but they haven't answered. Hopefully we get an update that gives us a 2.x release of sense, not this weird "you have some of the features of new sense but not the whole package." The other feature that I know is there is the one where you can flip the phone over to silence the ring, and in fact, BOTH features are undocumented - the user manual for the shift doesn't mention declining a call by flipping the phone OR the word pocket except in warnings about where not to keep it.
I don't have any hope of a satisfactory answer, though, because in an earlier answer to someone about bugs, they said to submit something at htc.com/support and make sure to mark it a bug report - you can't do that anywhere on the email form and the other two options for support aren't things you "submit." The two times I've contacted them by email were also tremendous disappointments, so... there you go.
Tried to second your post on HTC's support forum but their forum software is misconfigured and my email server is rejecting their mail because it is not a fully-qualified hostname. Meh. Like you, I don't hold out enough hope of a fix to bother with the registration process.
You mentioned flip to silence, but there is actually a setting on the Evo Shift 4G to silence the ringtone when the phone is moved. It's under settings - sounds, and it is "quiet ring on pickup". Since the action of flipping the phone involves moving it, I wonder if you are seeing that setting working when you flip your phone over. My phone stops ringing (if it's not in a pocket) when I pick it up off the table. It doesn't decline the call, it just stops the ringer.
Edit: eh, I made an allowance on my mail server so HTC's misconfigured SMTP server could send my activation message and let me register.
By the way, I posted a workaround on Android Central that works for the way I use the phone. I created a silent ringtone. Then I set the phone to vibrate as well. So in my pocket I feel/hear the vibration but I don't get the ridiculously-loud rings. But I can hear my notifications at normal volume. When the phone is on my desk, the vibration and screen lighting up are enough of an alert for me. Obviously this won't work if you ever keep the phone in a bag or somewhere that you can't hear or feel the vibration, but it works for me as a pocket user.
Three ticks up from silenced on the volume rocker:
Picking the phone up off my desk quiets the ring, flipping it silences the ring. I wonder if turning off quiet ring on pickup will turn off flip to silence... might as well try it.
aaand no it doesn't. Pickup didn't quiet (per the setting now being off) but flip still did silence the ring.
Interesting note: flip-to-silence is actually a silencer; it doesn't decline the call immediately.
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/112/t/9935.aspx
For anyone else that wants to weigh in on the issue on the official HTC support forum. Maybe they won't ignore us too hard.
nurrwick said:
Three ticks up from silenced on the volume rocker:
Picking the phone up off my desk quiets the ring, flipping it silences the ring. I wonder if turning off quiet ring on pickup will turn off flip to silence... might as well try it.
aaand no it doesn't. Pickup didn't quiet (per the setting now being off) but flip still did silence the ring.
Interesting note: flip-to-silence is actually a silencer; it doesn't decline the call immediately.
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Ok, makes sense - since I use a silent ringtone, the "quiet" and "silent" are the same to me, LOL. But yes, it doesn't decline the call.
I actually liked the Touch Pro2 where flipping during a call would turn on the speakerphone. Why can't they keep good features like that instead of forcing this new stuff down our throats with no option to turn it off.
Bump/Update: After two tweets on the issue and an entire week of the post I made sitting on the HTC forums, I have had enough of being ignored and went to the email support option.
I'm not resetting my phone again, so I instead borrowed the New Issue text from Google Code project pages and sent steps to duplicate.
Anybody else that might have this problem is welcome to weigh in; I gave links to this thread and the one over on Android Central in my forum post on HTC, which is linked in the support message I sent.
Another update: Today I received my response; I don't have to reset my phone (yet) and my concern is being escalated to whatever the next level of CS is called.
They say escalated department is first-come, first-served, so it may be a while before I know more.
The problem is that HTC sees this as a feature, not a bug. They market this as a way to hear your phone when it's in a bag. While it makes perfect sense to us end-users to have an option to turn this off, from a lab testing standpoint it's not a priority because the function works as designed. If HTC had really thought this through, they should realize that there are some things phones should never do, and ringing at maximum volume unless specifically directed by the user is one of them.
The funny thing is that I'd like almost the exact opposite behavior. I'd prefer the phone to ring (quietly) on my desk, and automatically switch to vibrate when it's in my pocket (as determined by the prox sensor). But people who carry their phones in bags or purses wouldn't benefit from this option. Everybody's needs are different; HTC just determined what they think is the most common scenario and coded Sense that way. I have to give them credit for thinking up the idea, but since it doesn't work for everyone it should be more flexible.
Thanks for taking the time to bring this to their attention. It may well be that a couple of generations of phones from now we'll start seeing more options in these settings, which would be fantastic.
Update: HTC has been calling me at work, once yesterday once today. I have not been at work this week but will be in tomorrow; they gave me a number to call if I wanted to get in touch with them sooner. I will be calling them back as soon as I'm done with my planned tasks tomorrow (assuming they haven't called me first).
Here's hoping news about when we get an update that stops this nonsense comes swiftly!
Hi all,
So my issue was that I want to be able to receive phone call notifications and the ability to accept or reject those calls on my no.1 s9, but i don't want to use the watch as hands free. I've googled it for some time but i haven't found nothing to solve this.
It may sound silly but I believe that this should be implemented through options on smartwatch or even better, if you accept the call in the watch it redirects the sound, if you answer through your phone it shouldn't redirect).
I believe that with some other smartwatches this is the behavior but not with no.1 s9 and, maybe, with some other phones. The reason is simple: you have your phone on your backpack or in your coat, you can check who is calling and then you decide if it's worth to pick up your phone or not.
So, i have created a simple flow with Automagic to handle things just how I believe they should be. Well, not quite because with this flow you can not use your smartwatch as hands free. But if you want to do so, you just have to switch off the flow.
You can find the flow in the attached image.
The idea is simple, the flow is activated by InCallActivity, first thing is to ensure that you can choose what action to take on your watch so while it stills ringing nothing is done (maybe there is some other way of doing this... i don't know how so there is a condition that basically does nothing while true). when you choose what to do the flow moves on to the next step (well... if you reject the call in your watch nothing is done and the flow ends here). If you answer the call, it checks if the watch is connected and if so, disconnects the watch and sets Bluetooth off to prevent that your watch connects again and the sound is, once again, redirected. Here you find another condition that basically holds everything until your call finishes. After all of this, Bluetooth is turned on so that your watch connects again.
It's my first flow with Automagic and this means that maybe I have take some paths that are not the most correct ones but it works.
I'm still testing but tests made so far are giving the exact result that I was looking for.
If you have the same problem that i was facing please share your thoughts and what are the ways you're handling this.
PS: It works for outgoing calls also.
PS2: English is not my native language... sorry if there are some mistakes
Hi,
Nice idea!
Any progress so far?
Nenad