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Coming from the Nexus One, running cMod6, I can't describe how choppy and over-themed this software is. Please, for the love of god, someone develop a Vanilla Android rom!!!! PLEASE!!
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Coming from the Nexus One, running cMod6, I can't describe how choppy and over-themed this software is. Please, for the love of god, someone develop a Vanilla Android rom!!!! PLEASE!!
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Hang tight. Good things are right around the corner.
Use launcher pro for the time being.
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The "theme" is as light as it could be for a complete overhaul. You need to look elsewhere for the reasons why your phone is choppy, it's certainly not TW overall (maybe the widgets, some of them are extremely laggy).
Do the lag fix. World of difference
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From Eugene_373:
Sound & Camera is only thing left to fix for Stock Google Android on the Vibrant... Barak is working on that tonig http://twitpic.com/2djkpi
StefanB86 said:
From Eugene_373:
Sound & Camera is only thing left to fix for Stock Google Android on the Vibrant... Barak is working on that tonig http://twitpic.com/2djkpi
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+1.
@ OP: Eugene's ROM is probably the fastest and most stable out right now. Besides, why wouldn't you have just downloaded ADW by now? Isn't that the stock Launcher on all CM ROMS now-a-days??? I would suggest following some devs on twitter too, you'll see that things are coming around nicely.
Here is a Few Pic's
http://twitpic.com/2djkpi http://twitpic.com/2dfx9i http://twitpic.com/2dfx5l http://twitpic.com/2dfwwv http://twitpic.com/2dfwrb http://twitpic.com/2dfwkb
Yea, I couldn't stand it either. Way too colorful for my tastes.
Just remove all the widgets from your home screens. Instant fix. At least it was for me.
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Here is a Few Pic's
http://twitpic.com/2djkpi http://twitpic.com/2dfx9i http://twitpic.com/2dfx5l http://twitpic.com/2dfwwv http://twitpic.com/2dfwrb http://twitpic.com/2dfwkb
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Wow. Iv been an Anrdroid user since the G1 first came out and after looking at those pics vanilla Android looks so Win95ish and TouchWiz is Windows 7ish.
To each his own I guess...
androidmonkey said:
Wow. Iv been an Anrdroid user since the G1 first came out and after looking at those pics vanilla Android looks so Win95ish and TouchWiz is Windows 7ish.
To each his own I guess...
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Yeah, the TW overlay is severely undervalued
eugene373 said:
Here is a Few Pic's
http://twitpic.com/2djkpi http://twitpic.com/2dfx9i http://twitpic.com/2dfx5l http://twitpic.com/2dfwwv http://twitpic.com/2dfwrb http://twitpic.com/2dfwkb
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heygrl said:
Yeah, the TW overlay is severely undervalued
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Yea, I dont get the hate....
The only thing that is really overly slow, is the cold boot-up process (media scanning, especially). Other than that, I find TouchWiz to be my favorite of all Android skins. There is a noticeable lag when launching an app for the first time (two seconds or so), but I'm willing to deal with that, even if there is room for improvement.
Not having some of the TouchWiz customizations is what keeps me from jumping to another Android phone. I couldn't live without these iPhone-like Calendar and Clock apps.
But you think TouchWiz is bad? Christ, go try scrolling around the home screens of the Droid X or the EVO. Those phones feel so antiquated, to me. Though, I'd like to see if 2.2 makes them usable...
In other news: GPS and Compass are still completely broken, with no word from Samsung.
not hate tw lags like a ***** is all.
eugene373 said:
not hate tw lags like a ***** is all.
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Really? I thought that had more to do with the I/O performance. Stock Android is going to be snappier for sure but there is no reason why the Vibrant can't handle TouchWiz, which a good portion of is just different colors. My eyes are bleeding after looking at stock Android on the Vibrant. I know some prefer it but I can't tell you how many people think TW is just the "iPhone launcher"
simply put, if you don't like it, don't use it when we release it...
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simply put, if you don't like it, don't use it when we release it...
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That's not what I was saying at all, and I won't. Simply put.
I'm sure most people wouldn't mind it if it wasn't so damn colorful and a blatant copy of iOS. Besides the vibrant already looks very similar to an iPhone no need in making it look like you are using a knockoff.
To be fair TW has some very nice additions but at a price of ugly.
Wow, I thought having a verity would be nice... If you up tight, please don't use anything I post.. There is no point in being high and mighty...
Some don't like tw, some do... Some like plain jane.. I like both so I don't care, but have source we can work from? Well, we'll never have tw source so be grateful anyone is working on stuff from source.
I hate to start a new thread, but I'm sure I am not the only one that wants to request a Galaxy S build. Preferably Vibrant, but Captivate would work too.
I hope devs look into this as IMO the Vibrant's Touch wiz interface would give everyone something different to look at. I personally like it over Stock, and MOST definitely over Sense.
Just a thought...
I'm hoping that there will be an end to the many slightly different versions of sense and hope we will see galaxy s, droid, streak builds looked into soon.
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Hmm!
I think that we may not need a build for this but an .apk for Touchwiz that we can install over a Clean Stock Rom.
I noticed one on the forum a while ago.
If this is of course what you are meaning:I never had a Galaxy S before and don't know what else it got.
ForceField said:
Hmm!
I think that we may not need a build for this but an .apk for Touchwiz that we can install over a Clean Stock Rom.
I noticed one on the forum a while ago.
If this is of course what you are meaning:I never had a Galaxy S before and don't know what else it got.
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it was an incomplete .apk which only gave you the launcher
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it was an incomplete .apk which only gave you the launcher
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I do remember it was only about 2 ~ 3 mb and considering the size maybe a lot of things where removed to make it compatible with other devices.
Ok,I will Google a little to see what's the Galaxy S got
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Found
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTQVRCC8xiA
why do you prefer the Samsung software over the all mighty sense UI !!!
al mighty? the sense ui is hideous. For me personally, i cant stand having a 240dpi on a 4.3" screen. Even though 180 sounds worse, thats the setting we change it to for icons to seem like the actually fit on the screen.
Also, why do we need 10 versions of Sense? Why not have the option for the TouchWiz interface. It's fresh and something new to look at. Plus, there are little things like the lockscreen, when if you have missed calls or messages, you drag a puzzle piece into the blank spot that matches what you want to instantly view when you unlock it.
their widgets are also very nice. anywho, i would just enjoy something different. And others would too.
I agree to what he said
agreed it would be a nice change of pace, always good to see something new.
just my opinion...
plus i know the vibrant has an incredibly high frame rate
well.. i had a galaxy S... the first thing done was to use launcherpro and get rid of that hideous touchwiz!
check the forums of those devices... people are asking for vanilla or sense roms
I had a Vibrant, touchwiz was the laggiest piece of software I've used and changed the whole android experience.
i want this cant wait to somebody pull this out there hats
Does anyone have a copy of the touch whiz .apk
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al mighty? the sense ui is hideous. For me personally, i cant stand having a 240dpi on a 4.3" screen. Even though 180 sounds worse, thats the setting we change it to for icons to seem like the actually fit on the screen.
Also, why do we need 10 versions of Sense? Why not have the option for the TouchWiz interface. It's fresh and something new to look at. Plus, there are little things like the lockscreen, when if you have missed calls or messages, you drag a puzzle piece into the blank spot that matches what you want to instantly view when you unlock it.
their widgets are also very nice. anywho, i would just enjoy something different. And others would too.
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To be fair on both sides , the new Sense on Desire HD has lower dpi for menus, etc so it looks much much cleaner ... and since HTC seems to have recognized that aspect I am sure in future the launcher and widgets will also be improved
+1 , i would deffinatly donate, the main reason i want a captivate/vibrant rom is for the video player! my friends vibrant video player plays a 480p .avi video flawlessly, while my hd2 plays it terribly while looking all blurry, but on my friends vibrant its sharp, i know theres a screen size diffrence but still it shouldnt make the movie look that much worse.
and im thinking the problem may be the media player cuz the ones ive tried dont go full screen like the vibrants
I sold my galaxy s for my hd2 and am so pleased I did as I now get to run sense ui or nexus builds. touch wiz was terrible iphone like and laggy. you can download some of the widgets from the galaxy s forum section but they are not a patch on htc sense widgets. The only good thing about the galaxy s build was its camera app
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well.. i had a galaxy S... the first thing done was to use launcherpro and get rid of that hideous touchwiz!
check the forums of those devices... people are asking for vanilla or sense roms
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Exactly, once you actually use it, its terribly laggy and not very well put together. I can't blame you for wanting something new but I think everyone would get sick of it quick.
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Does anyone have a copy of the touch whiz .apk
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Some launchers I've collected from users here on XDA. The "Launcher2" is the 7-homescreen T-Mobile G2 launcher....exactly like the Nexus One launcher but with 7 screens instead of 5. You will need to remove the cooked-in launcher to install all but the TouchWiz launcher. Using Astro file manager, nav to the "System" > "App" folder and locate the launcher and delete it. Then do a reboot. *You will need to install Launcher Pro in the interim to have a launcher at bootup.*
You will want to make a backup of the whole Android build prior to deleting the cooked-in launcher in case the chosen one doesn't install.
The LG zips contain various widgets which will install even if the launcher doesn't.
i dont get it. lower dpi makes it crisp?!
less pixels per inch = better image?
im really confused.
malaeus said:
i dont get it. lower dpi makes it crisp?!
less pixels per inch = better image?
im really confused.
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The below explanation is based on what I was able to recall from good ol college days
WVGA Res - 480 pixels x 800 pixels
Screen Size - Whatever the HD2 has (too lazy to check )
Anyways the above 2 are fixed parameters. Now what dpi means literally is pixels per inch (lets not go into more details here)
So if you fit more pixel in a single inch of screen, effectively your widgets get less space on the screen to fit into. (DPI 240)
And if you put less pixels, the same widgets fit in less amount of space in screen so it looks like a higher res (DPI 180/200)
I hope I was able to convey what I meant
Saw this on the Samsung Mobile USA Facebook page. The screenshots don't resemble the current version of TouchWiz, is this our first look at ICS on the GS2? If so, I'm not impressed...
The footer does say screen images simulated, so I'm not sure.
Whats your opinion on this?
Source: Can't post until I have 8 posts...
PS: Please don't flame me if this is already known or just plain noob, I am new here. Just sharing what I found, as it may have some relevance.
ICS are blue themed, this is green!
Agreed - could be true that it is touchwiz 5 though to stop anymore lawsuits but def. not ICS.
all thing that we saw from ICS 4 was pics from galaxy nexus.May be the ICS for SGS 2 can be with some changes..
Both screenshots on the GS2 are rather different, so I'm not sure what it is...
Looks more like a custom launcher to me. Not very Samsung-ish or Google-ish
there are 2 different SGSII models, one with 4.2 inch and the other with 4.5 inch display.
each is designed for a different operator in us so the operator might asked for a different customization of the os.
the weather widgets are the same...
Is TW4
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Both screenshots on the GS2 are rather different, so I'm not sure what it is...
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Looks like a PR screwup in the graphics department. This happens all the time.
It's possible I guess.. either way the shots are interesting. This was on samsung USA mobile?
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones
Wow, thats ugly.
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Wow, thats ugly.
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I couldn't agree more. I want as close to stock ICS as possible (since I think ICS is pretty close to touchwiz 4.0). I really hope Samsung add the wifi/bluetooth/gps etc to the notification bar again, I love that feature.
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I couldn't agree more. I want as close to stock ICS as possible (since I think ICS is pretty close to touchwiz 4.0). I really hope Samsung add the wifi/bluetooth/gps etc to the notification bar again, I love that feature.
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I don't think that the look of the upcoming ICS Rom will have a lot of similarities with the Google ICS look.
They'll stay on TouchWiz and it will look like TouchWiz.
Samsung created TouchWiz to give the Phone a specific look and feel and to be different/better to their competitors. They'll not jump into another direction now.
A BMW is still looking like a BMW, a Mercedes like a Mercedes. Even if you remove the Logos.
Actually ICS is to much hyped. Everyone is expecting to much.
That's ICS:
http://imgur.com/a/Ifpjp#0
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Actually ICS is to much hyped. Everyone is expecting to much.
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I agree. We're starting to sound like Apple Fanboys
I posted my thoughts here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371870
Sorry, it was on the Samsung Mobile Facebook page, not the website. Silly error on my part.
It's feeling more and more like its just a mockup, not anything that Sammy will release. But we'll see.
Lmao definetely not TW5 or Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Freakin' hideous!
hell no that looks ugly
The statusbar is kinda remiscent of HTC's sense. The icons are just ugly. Take away message of these ads is, one can customize an Android phone (skin) to the point of it being unrecognizable (as well as unusable?).
Touchwiz is just a luncher, icons and a blue bar. The blue bar I now like, the launcher and icons are easily changable even without rooting.
Obviously a marketing guy pulled random screenshots off the internet. The second shot is showing an HTC Sense wallpaper, so stop worrying that this is Samsung's rendition of ICS. Look at the Galaxy Tabs with Honeycomb if you want to get an idea what TouchWiz on ICS will look like.
Guys,
Just ditched my nexus 4 for s4 due to brightness and camera issues which I hated the most of nexus4 rest the speed etc was completely enough for a average user like me.
what i miss mostly of my nexus4 is simplicity, whereas s4 is too complicated to use due to tooo many features which are hard to understand.
what i want to know is it possible right now to make it simple as vanilla...
sorry if i wasn't clear enough to make you guys explain.
Thanks
p.s. in terms of these days phone, its sick!
coolraghav said:
Guys,
Just ditched my nexus 4 for s4 due to brightness and camera issues which I hated the most of nexus4 rest the speed etc was completely enough for a average user like me.
what i miss mostly of my nexus4 is simplicity, whereas s4 is too complicated to use due to tooo many features which are hard to understand.
what i want to know is it possible right now to make it simple as vanilla...
sorry if i wasn't clear enough to make you guys explain.
Thanks
p.s. in terms of these days phone, its sick!
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Flash an AOSP ROM.
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coolraghav said:
Guys,
Just ditched my nexus 4 for s4 due to brightness and camera issues which I hated the most of nexus4 rest the speed etc was completely enough for a average user like me.
what i miss mostly of my nexus4 is simplicity, whereas s4 is too complicated to use due to tooo many features which are hard to understand.
what i want to know is it possible right now to make it simple as vanilla...
sorry if i wasn't clear enough to make you guys explain.
Thanks
p.s. in terms of these days phone, its sick!
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Just spend ten minutes looking through the settings and getting it how you want it. Pretty much all the features that you don't need can be disabled. If you've had a Nexus 4 I don't see how an S4 could be any more difficult to use to be honest.
Thanks for your reply wolf, is it as easy as it was with nexus4 or do i have to face any trouble. I'm completely newbie in all this.
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Just spend ten minutes looking through the settings and getting it how you want it. Pretty much all the features that you don't need can be disabled. If you've had a Nexus 4 I don't see how an S4 could be any more difficult to use to be honest.
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A. Settings, its easier in vanilla.
B.All the samsung apps are coming before
C. When I long-click an app in applications menu, i liked the idea of app info/uninstall
D. Hate samsung apps ..
Also how do i find what processor my phone is running ? As I'm not sure yet which processor in India they've released.
coolraghav said:
A. Settings, its easier in vanilla.
B.All the samsung apps are coming before
C. When I long-click an app in applications menu, i liked the idea of app info/uninstall
D. Hate samsung apps ..
Also how do i find what processor my phone is running ? As I'm not sure yet which processor in India they've released.
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They've released the i9500 version and you can check the Model number of the device:
Settings->last tab->About Device->Model Number.
Just install another launcher like Nova or APEX, they will give you the plain stock Android experience you are looking for. I have Nova running and it actually sped up my phone substantially. I also checked the RAM availability before and after using Nova and essentially stayed the same. Give it a try.
coolraghav said:
Guys,
Just ditched my nexus 4 for s4 due to brightness and camera issues which I hated the most of nexus4 rest the speed etc was completely enough for a average user like me.
what i miss mostly of my nexus4 is simplicity, whereas s4 is too complicated to use due to tooo many features which are hard to understand.
what i want to know is it possible right now to make it simple as vanilla...
sorry if i wasn't clear enough to make you guys explain.
Thanks
p.s. in terms of these days phone, its sick!
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nycrazyg said:
Just install another launcher like Nova or APEX, they will give you the plain stock Android experience you are looking for. I have Nova running and it actually sped up my phone substantially. I also checked the RAM availability before and after using Nova and essentially stayed the same. Give it a try.
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Plain stock? No not really lol. How do you get rid of black and neon green colors
i'm not fond of launchers eh.
guys how can I arrange apps alphabetically...its so hard finding an app now!! lol .. i miss my nexus .. haha somehow tell me how to make it plain n simple.
coolraghav said:
i'm not fond of launchers eh.
guys how can I arrange apps alphabetically...its so hard finding an app now!! lol .. i miss my nexus .. haha somehow tell me how to make it plain n simple.
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Will get my s4 tomorrow.. but in my s3, its done like this.. i am very sure its the same in the s4
Go to app drawer--> press menu button--> view type--> alphabetical grid..done
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mshaw03 said:
Just spend ten minutes looking through the settings and getting it how you want it. Pretty much all the features that you don't need can be disabled. If you've had a Nexus 4 I don't see how an S4 could be any more difficult to use to be honest.
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Chillz88 said:
Will get my s4 tomorrow.. but in my s3, its done like this.. i am very sure its the same in the s4
Go to app drawer--> press menu button--> view type--> alphabetical grid..done
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got it, thanks mate! i was just more used to 3 buttons @ bottom of screen (n4)
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Plain stock? No not really lol. How do you get rid of black and neon green colors
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Black and Neon Green colors? I'm guessing you haven't given Nova or Apex a try. It changes everything, homescreen, app drawer, and with Nova you can even set a theme color that changes the color accent colors of the Menus. I used to own a Galaxy Nexus, and I have the options using these launchers to revert everything to stock Android. Don't knock it until you try it, I mean really try it though.
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i'm not fond of launchers eh.
guys how can I arrange apps alphabetically...its so hard finding an app now!! lol .. i miss my nexus .. haha somehow tell me how to make it plain n simple.
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If you're talking about Touch Wiz, the option is in the Touch Wiz app drawer. Hit Menu, then View Type, There's Alphabetical Grid, or Alphabetical List.
Just install nova or apex launcher. Works like a charm.
I prefer nova launcher though.
i'm coming from a nexus 4 as well i too hate all the preinstalled samsung apps, but I disabled most of them.
What I can't stand is the physical home button. Its not a deal breaker but i HATE IT
i switched from nexus 4 too.
things i hate about the s4:
1. back button on the right side because i usually use my phone with the left hand.
2. no recent apps button. so holding the home button is slow.
3. no aosp browser unless using doc's barebone rom. chrome and stock browser is so slowww compared to this.
4. bloated apps and bloated gimmicks features like smart and gesture things which slow down the phone. resolved by turning them off and using doc's barebone rom.
things to love on the s4:
1. nice screen, i mean really really great.
2. better camera than the nexus 4, the nexus 4 has cool tint, like blueish.
3. micro sd card
4. replacable battery, i mean just get the battery kit and have infinity battery. awesome.
Hey guys..
I would like to ask you about an aosp rom with samsung futures.. cause i hate touchwiz.. the settings.. the statusbar and everything.. I have been searching for a long time but could not find anything about such roms.
So my question is: Is it possible to take a rom like CM 12 and add featuers like the power saving mode of TW or a fingerprintscanner support for that rom... Would be great to hear about a rom like that
Greetings.
Nessty
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No. Closed source makes it difficult. Personally I find touchwiz sufficient and can't wait for lollipop.
But couldn't anyone take the priv apps and port then for cm and add a setting for the priv apps then or something ?
And lollipop will be great... but much will be white.. they take a amoled display and then they do everything in white ?! Thats dumb...
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But couldn't anyone take the priv apps and port then for cm and add a setting for the priv apps then or something ?
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And the entire set of framework code that will go with it
There's a reason no one has done it in the years that aosp and touchwiz custom ROMs have been around
Mods generally are written from scratch in aosp ROMs
Nessty. said:
But couldn't anyone take the priv apps and port then for cm and add a setting for the priv apps then or something ?
And lollipop will be great... but much will be white.. they take a amoled display and then they do everything in white ?! Thats dumb...
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If it were that simple I would do it myself, your only hope is a google play edition but I reckon even if we get one it won't have a fingerprint sensor. And I don't really believe the whole black is better battery thing. I mean sure pixels off is but a lot of the time we actually get pixels showing a dark shade rather than off. You would have to spend a lot of time in settings or sms to care is what I'm saying. Plus if anything like my nexus 7 lollipop will improve battery and counteract this. But samsung may screw it up, pray that they don't cos kitkat got it right and made touchwiz an artistic and useful interface. White is used because its more pleasing to the eye than that bluey grey thing they got going on
Just sad... but thanks for your answers..
If there would only be a fingerprint scanner support i would even be happy.. but sad if its not poosible/too hard
Nessty. said:
Just sad... but thanks for your answers..
If there would only be a fingerprint scanner support i would even be happy.. but sad if its not poosible/too hard
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You could try Alliance ROM with AOSP theme