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4G Now??

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648160
http://www.androidspin.com/2010/03/17/its-twoo-its-twoo-4g-speed-is-a-reality/
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Cant wait till this is hacked into the N1!!

i mis read the #'s lol

First... those are 3G speeds, albeit higher than most of us currently experience on T-mobile. Second, anyone can add the 4G icon if they're rooted... just replace the 3G one with the 4G one, and there you go. That being said, bbuchacher is a pretty stand up guy and a well-known dev for the G1, so that throws my entire analysis upside down.

hoping the devs can implement this into the roms

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First... those are 3G speeds, albeit higher than most of us currently experience on T-mobile. Second, anyone can add the 4G icon if they're rooted... just replace the 3G one with the 4G one, and there you go. That being said, bbuchacher is a pretty stand up guy and a well-known dev for the G1, so that throws my entire analysis upside down.
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exactly what i was thinking when i saw the screen shot lol. Still faster then what most are getting now though.

Those are pretty far from 4G speeds.
That's just HSDPA+ (3.5g?)
I'm in the NY Metro area, here's my T-Mobile runs:
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4G is touting being 10-30 times faster then this.

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Those are pretty far from 4G speeds.
That's just HSDPA+ (3.5g?)
I'm in the NY Metro area, here's my T-Mobile runs:
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4G is touting being 10-30 times faster then this.
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Yep pretty much made this false. Ive hit 1600kbps off 3.5g as well.

i would be happy if i could get any of those speeds i see. my avg is around 700kbs on 3G. Even cyanogen i s saying he has the test code and it works.

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i would be happy if i could get any of those speeds i see. my avg is around 700kbs on 3G. Even cyanogen i s saying he has the test code and it works.
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Well if yet another Dev, Cyanogen in this case, is vouching for it...then there's not much more to say.

I don't have test code, I'm not even rooted, those are my speeds there in that screenshot.
They're probably getting HSDPA code updates to get us the max 7.2Mb/s that T-Mobile supposedly "on-lined" last year....I live in an HSDPA area and I don't get over 3.5Mb/s max so far, it would be nice to see 7Mb/s...heck, our tech specs don't even list HSDPA+, which would be nice to have...maybe thats what they are referring to, but even that is still only "3.5G".
By industry definition, "4G" is WiMax or LTE...neither of which are in our phone...

FYI, I guarantee this is not 4G and to say so is a major load of crap. I can also guarantee all it is is an ID key that tells the T-Mobile network you are a tester, and thus are not capped.
Simply put, this hack will be cut off if enough people use it since all T-Mobile has to do is change the ID Key this fakes to something else.

Kind of off topic. Isn't T-Mobile hspa+ 21mbs faster then. Wimax 4g. Even though our phones only support 7.2mbs wouldn't this still give us a speed increase?

WiMax 4G has a technical peak of 144Mbs/35Mbs, LTE is 360Mbs/80Mbs...
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wireless_data_standards)
HSDPA actually covers a wide range of configurations that vary depending on how the hardware is built and deployed. LTE is actually considered the evolution of UMTS/HSPA-Evolved (HSPA-Evolved is the evolution of HSDPA).
The HSDPA+ 21Mbs networks being brought up are category 14, the 7.2's are category 8, and the "general" 3G HSDPA networks are category 6.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
LTE is supposed to provide a final convergence of UTMS and EV-DO, though we'll still have a multi-standard market because of WiMax.
There's a lot of easy info out there to read about it all...

thepawn said:
WiMax 4G has a technical peak of 144Mbs/35Mbs, LTE is 360Mbs/80Mbs...
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wireless_data_standards)
HSDPA actually covers a wide range of configurations that vary depending on how the hardware is built and deployed. LTE is actually considered the evolution of UMTS/HSPA-Evolved (HSPA-Evolved is the evolution of HSDPA).
The HSDPA+ 21Mbs networks being brought up are category 14, the 7.2's are category 8, and the "general" 3G HSDPA networks are category 6.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
LTE is supposed to provide a final convergence of UTMS and EV-DO, though we'll still have a multi-standard market because of WiMax.
There's a lot of easy info out there to read about it all...
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Thanks. Didn't wanna look it up while at work. Eyes hurt if I read to much on my nexus lol

True 4g

Ok I just want yop point out to anyone looking at this phone that yes true 4g(LTE) is capable of higher speeds but initially even LTE right now in the USA isn't true 4g, LTE is capable of 100gbps, but the current LTE network isn't and take for instance surpass N a few years ago those chips weren't capable of full N speeds, true 4g is a few years away, yes LTE will be faster but until the networks are fully built in a couple of years they aren't true LTE or 4g, here in boston during testing it was getting rly quick speeds, but verizon has lowered the max speed, I just want to make people aware especially if looking at this phone
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This phone isn't even LTE compatible.
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Ok I just want yop point out to anyone looking at this phone that yes true 4g(LTE) is capable of higher speeds but initially even LTE right now in the USA isn't true 4g, LTE is capable of 100gbps, but the current LTE network isn't and take for instance surpass N a few years ago those chips weren't capable of full N speeds, true 4g is a few years away, yes LTE will be faster but until the networks are fully built in a couple of years they aren't true LTE or 4g, here in boston during testing it was getting rly quick speeds, but verizon has lowered the max speed, I just want to make people aware especially if looking at this phone
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Thank You Captain Obvious.

I know I'm being obvious, but until an LTE phone is out, which will be the thunderbolt then we can see which one to get, and three other thing is by the time it is worth gettin hg LTE vs hspa+ people will be qualified for another upgrade
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Verizon's LTE which is barely anywhere is only marginally if at all faster than ATT 3G/4G whatever you want to call it

And they have no fallback onto a true 3g network you would just get slow cdma speeds so people should really look at both coverage maps and then decide
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Ceverson70 said:
Ok I just want yop point out to anyone looking at this phone that yes true 4g(LTE) is capable of higher speeds but initially even LTE right now in the USA isn't true 4g, LTE is capable of 100gbps, but the current LTE network isn't and take for instance surpass N a few years ago those chips weren't capable of full N speeds, true 4g is a few years away, yes LTE will be faster but until the networks are fully built in a couple of years they aren't true LTE or 4g, here in boston during testing it was getting rly quick speeds, but verizon has lowered the max speed, I just want to make people aware especially if looking at this phone
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LTE isn't "true 4g" either. LTE-Advanced is, and nobody will have that for years.

This is a stupid thread. The ITU has said 4G can essentially be whatever you want it to be, they backtracked, so it is now HSPA+ or higher, and also my pet hamster bob running on his wheel.
Verizon's LTE has several orders of magnitude more bandwidth in AT&T's not even launched HSPA+ network. They beat AT&T to market, it's no secret that Verizon is really good at providing a consistant and reliable network.
It's 4G enough for me, whatever that means.

My friend went to A verizon store and used a netbook they had an LTE dongle attached to. After confirming it was on LTE, he ran speed test.net, and got 1.8mbps down.
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1.8 MBPS?
I would kill half a country for 1 MBPS.
*100 KBPS.
*50 KBPS.
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Your going to wear out that screenshot pfaction

I get 1.8 on my atrix, so verizon lte is no faster, and is in less cities not that I like att they just also have a faster fallback network
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Well we know what atts version of 4g is like and we've yet to see Verizon's. If its anywhere near as poor as att I'll happily stick with sprint... at least my slow on wimax is 3mbps and good is 8. I think you att owners have been had and are letting att off the hook too lightly.
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Slow LTE speeds coming from note 3

I've been using my Z2 for about 3 days now and I'm having Hella slow speeds. Coming from T-Mobile note 3 I've been suffering on my LTE speeds. I used to get 20-30 MBPS and now down to 2-3mbps I'm positive I got the correct apn settings and just talked to att customer service to make sure they got correct provisions on my plan.
Here's my speed test and apn settings. Anything I should change on my APN? Thanks in advance
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While I admit that those are incredibly slow, T-Mobile is known to have the fastest LTE speeds out of the other carriers. However, I'm not familiar with at&t's speed so I wouldn't be able to tell you if those speeds are normal or not.
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Few things:
1. AT&T LTE can be very slow at times. I'm currently getting 1.5 mbps at home (it's much better in other places). I also tried an AT&T HOX and got the same speed. So that tells it's just AT&T's network issue in my area. You could try to compare yours to an AT&T phone in your area.
2. You said you switched from Tmobile to AT&T. Did you set up your ATT account with an ATT LTE phone? In the past, some users had to set up their a/c with AT&T phones IMEI initially to get proper LTE speed.

schecter7 said:
Few things:
1. AT&T LTE can be very slow at times. I'm currently getting 1.5 mbps at home (it's much better in other places). I also tried an AT&T HOX and got the same speed. So that tells it's just AT&T's network issue in my area. You could try to compare yours to an AT&T phone in your area.
2. You said you switched from Tmobile to AT&T. Did you set up your ATT account with an ATT LTE phone? In the past, some users had to set up their a/c with AT&T phones IMEI initially to get proper LTE speed.
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I compared it with my friends S4 on att and he's getting 20 MBPS. He also has full bar compared to mine only has 2. I know att cheats on bars with their rom.
Sorry what I meant was I came from a unlocked Note 3 T-Mobile device. And was getting 20-30 MBPS. Is there something wrong with my APN?
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treoreloaded said:
I compared it with my friends S4 on att and he's getting 20 MBPS. He also has full bar compared to mine only has 2. I know att cheats on bars with their rom.
Sorry what I meant was I came from a unlocked Note 3 T-Mobile device. And was getting 20-30 MBPS. Is there something wrong with my APN?
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I see. The only difference I can see is I have APN type as 'not set' - not sure if it's gonna make any difference. Why don't you just copy the APN from your friend's phone?

Don't judge by what I'm saying, but I believe the radio on the Z2 still not optimized properly, because I do have Nexus 5 and I will get more signal on that compare to Z2 and most of time Nexus is on LTE and Z2 some time you can see it's on H+ ( I do have T-Mobile )

treoreloaded said:
I compared it with my friends S4 on att and he's getting 20 MBPS. He also has full bar compared to mine only has 2. I know att cheats on bars with their rom.
Sorry what I meant was I came from a unlocked Note 3 T-Mobile device. And was getting 20-30 MBPS. Is there something wrong with my APN?
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I just did a speed test at a different location - 30 Mbps DL & 11.5 Mbps UL on AT&T. I have also attached my APN.

schecter7 said:
I just did a speed test at a different location - 30 Mbps DL & 11.5 Mbps UL on AT&T. I have also attached my APN.
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Cool - my Z2 shows the same APN info. My last speedtest was ~ 12 up / 10 down, but that's to be expected where I live some days. So the phone will always show '4G' instead of 'LTE'?

prazvt said:
Cool - my Z2 shows the same APN info. My last speedtest was ~ 12 up / 10 down, but that's to be expected where I live some days. So the phone will always show '4G' instead of 'LTE'?
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Hi,
I'm on T-Mo and my phone shows always 4G but with a really bad reception (1-2 bars) DL averages 10MB and UP around 4MB, I've been testing the signals with Open Signal and LTE Discovery apps and found out that there is just a "fair" coverage where I live and the places I go most, I guess I will get better speeds if I'm on a big city.
However if I disable the 4G from the quick settings, I will get full bars of H+ but no faster speeds that I would get when it locks to LTE.
Open Signal has a built in speed test and it tells you what connection you have (H+, 4G LTE), check it out.

APN setting
you can go to Internet setting then download it for APN settingView attachment 2745857

Everything works fine now. What I did was put my Sim on my friends AT&T Samsung S4 logged in to my att account and waited until the system recognized I was using a S4 then pooped my Sim backed to my Z2 rebooted the phone and for some weird reason my LTE speeds are back the UT was before
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I don't understand why you get so slow speeds on 4G. I live in Romania where they just started a year or so ago to deploy 4G all around the country. The city I live in is a small mountain resort and I get about 2 bars of 4G reception. On the test I did yesterday I got 70 Mb/s down and 30 Mb/s up, much better than my home connection. On a Nexus 5 that I played with in a carrier shop I got 150 Mb/s down and 30 Mb/s up (it was in a bigger city with better reception).

The OnePlus One Speed Test Result Thread

Seen this thread on other phone forums but haven't seen it on this forum just yet, so it'd be nice to see what speeds you guys are getting on LTE/WiFi. I know that there are a lot of complaints in regards to weak cellular data or weak wifi. Some of us don't have those problems, and some of us do but thats not the point of this thread.
Anywho, lets show off of our speed test results using Speed Test https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.zwanoo.android.speedtest
Please only provide results on your OnePlus One and not for other phones.
Also include your location and carrier.
I'll get started,
T-Mobile USA. Brooklyn, NY
Also attached is my WiFi speed on my home internet connection (110 down, 40 up is what is advertised on a Wireless-N router)
I usually do get higher speeds but not in that area. My peak speeds were 50 down on LTE.
LTE: http://i.imgur.com/o5fCH4t.png
WiFi: http://i.imgur.com/1dqSI3b.png

Here's my speed test result. On the Telstra network in Ringwood, Melbourne, Australia, and using LTE.
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Here's my speed test result. On the Telstra network in Ringwood, Melbourne, Australia, and using LTE.
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Surprised no one is posting here although the Antutu thread is pretty popular and in the past. Threads like this seem to reach a lot of posts, 222 views and only 2 posts
Wow nice, Australian LTE looks nice. The highest I've ever gotten with T-Mobile LTE was 52.17/17.56 on my N5 in this one particular area of Brooklyn.

My 4G on the oneplus has 2 bars then drops to none. Best speed I can get 6Mbps

No speed test here, but my One is much faster than my Galaxy S3 over Wifi. It also never drops wifi connection while my S3 would drop connection when I walked around the house or at work.

Can't post screenshots for some reason but I get 48 Mbps. T-Mobile Michigan
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jbass350z said:
No speed test here, but my One is much faster than my Galaxy S3 over Wifi. It also never drops wifi connection while my S3 would drop connection when I walked around the house or at work.
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Provide one a speedtest is quite easy to do. Download the app and run it. I just feel that theres a lot of criticism on the Wifi/Radio/Cell Service that some of us don't have that problem so its nice to have some positivity towards this subject.
You guys can go to the Speedtest App -> Results -> Share button and then get the link and paste that here too.

Not bad, I'll have to try a better service area tomorrow. This in on Att in Lithonia GA.

TWC internet.
And straight talk (att) 50% signal strength

zephiK said:
Surprised no one is posting here although the Antutu thread is pretty popular and in the past. Threads like this seem to reach a lot of posts, 222 views and only 2 posts
Wow nice, Australian LTE looks nice. The highest I've ever gotten with T-Mobile LTE was 52.17/17.56 on my N5 in this one particular area of Brooklyn.
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We get much higher speeds than that, I had pretty bad signal strength at the time. My mate recently got 80mb down.
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On Wi-Fi (advertised as 35/35): http://i.imgur.com/1CBL40l.jpg
On T-Mobile edge (Dover, DE): http://i.imgur.com/04weShL.jpg
Both speeds are about the same as I got on my Nexus 5.

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We get much higher speeds than that, I had pretty bad signal strength at the time. My mate recently got 80mb down.
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Can't even start to imagine what LTE-A in real-day use and not theoretical speeds is capable of getting. http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/20/sk-telecom-lte-a-300-mbps/ insane.

From my wife's OPO. We are in the 20mhz Seattle market on T-Mobile. Beats my GN2 by 15mbps.

Coug76 said:
From my wife's OPO. We are in the 20mhz Seattle market on T-Mobile. Beats my GN2 by 15mbps.
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Whoa... can't wait to get Wideband LTE over here in NYC.

Coug76 said:
From my wife's OPO. We are in the 20mhz Seattle market on T-Mobile. Beats my GN2 by 15mbps.
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Maybe I'm slow but I thought the Opo didn't support the LTE Band 20? Or is that some other band that everyone is talking about that T-Mobile is unveiling?

adibeckett said:
Maybe I'm slow but I thought the Opo didn't support the LTE Band 20? Or is that some other band that everyone is talking about that T-Mobile is unveiling?
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The speed test I pictured was on LTE band 4. There was 20mHz of bandwidth for that specific location. I can see the data connection info on my Note 2 from service mode. Quite useful for a guy interested in data connection performance.

Telstra LTE, Australia
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Telstra LTE, Australia
Can get up to 80Mbps at work.
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Orange Moldova LTE.
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Seattle.

I am getting horrible speeds all the time and I'm on att network. Is there some special settings I need to input? Am I missing something? I mean, I love the offline but I'm actually really frustrated over the specs on getting. I cant even watch YouTube videos without it stopping all the time. It does an lte signal to. Any thoughts?

T-Mobile 6T keeps losing network connection

Is anyone else having an issue with their network connection? There are random times where I open the phone and I can't get anywhere. Apps just spin and time out saying no network connection. Although, the status bar still shows 4G LTE.
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I have an unlocked 6T, using it on T-Mobile, and I was getting lots of data connection dropouts, not exactly how you described, but I would go from all bars to zero bars, then it would reconnect after 5 seconds or so. It's seemed to get quite a bit better since I turned off WiFi scanning for location purposes even when wifi is off. Can't say yet that it's fixed but it's been all good for hours now. Good luck with your issue!

I'll try that. I really want to love this phone, but I've had a few issues after only 2 days that I never once had with my LG V30.
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ledvedder said:
I'll try that. I really want to love this phone, but I've had a few issues after only 2 days that I never once had with my LG V30.
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Same boat here, I love this phone and want to keep it. Seems to be better but fingers crossed. I had a V30 as well
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As soon as Oreo hit the V30, I actually had network issues there too, kind of like what you described for your 6T. seem to get better after a couple of updates for me

Unlocked on T-Mobile and no issues whatsoever

I noticed I have connection issues as well. I'll close out whatever app is having problems and restart the app, but it's over multiple apps. So I'm not sure, what's causing the drop outs

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I noticed I have connection issues as well. I'll close out whatever app is having problems and restart the app, but it's over multiple apps. So I'm not sure, what's causing the drop outs
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I'm glad it's not just me.
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ledvedder said:
I'm glad it's not just me.
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Usually with devices this new or doesn't bother me too much. I'm sure we're not the only ones and it'll get fixed sooner or later

This is an issue with T-Mobile's band 12. Check what band your phone is on when it does this, LTE discovery app can show you. If it is on band 12, that means the tower is congested.

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This is an issue with T-Mobile's band 12. Check what band your phone is on when it does this, LTE discovery app can show you. If it is on band 12, that means the tower is congested.
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Thanks for this, this used to drive me nuts on my T-Mobile V30 in Los Angeles, especially once the phone was updated to Oreo for some reason. Now on my OnePlus 6T, I was getting a lot of times where the signal just completely drops out and then reconnects usually within 5 or 10 seconds.

Cruised thru a couple different towns and had no issues with T-Mobile today
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ryude said:
This is an issue with T-Mobile's band 12. Check what band your phone is on when it does this, LTE discovery app can show you. If it is on band 12, that means the tower is congested.
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So I've been tracking the issue, been having lots of dropouts this morning here in Los Angeles. From using the app it seems like I'm usually on band 4, but when the connection drops out and reconnects, then I'm on band 2, but will be back on band 4 after a couple minutes. Do you think this is definitely the network and not my phone, I need to determine whether to send the phone back, which I don't really want to do.

YrrchSebor said:
So I've been tracking the issue, been having lots of dropouts this morning here in Los Angeles. From using the app it seems like I'm usually on band 4, but when the connection drops out and reconnects, then I'm on band 2, but will be back on band 4 after a couple minutes. Do you think this is definitely the network and not my phone, I need to determine whether to send the phone back, which I don't really want to do.
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Yeah that's network. The towers are kicking you off because it's congested. Unfortunately, T-Mobile doesn't have the capacity to handle the huge increase in subscribers that they have gotten over the last year or two.

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Yeah that's network. The towers are kicking you off because it's congested. Unfortunately, T-Mobile doesn't have the capacity to handle the huge increase in subscribers that they have gotten over the last year or two.
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Ok thanks ? Makes sense

I am experiencing the same issue not only in US but also in other countries.

You can also use signal spy to check with bands you're currently receiving, and it'll give you a good idea of what kind of coverage you're looking at. It'll specify the signal strength, type of band you're currently using, and more. Highly recommended if you want to know what your signal is looking like.