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HSPA+.....

Just got a text from T-Mobile saying HSPA+ is active in my city....Memphis, TN. Havent noticed in difference. Maybe I should do a speed test later.

maybe you need an actual HSPA+ phone.
and maybe they had activated it before they announced it

hspa+ is still faster than the 3g you prob had, so now you might get up to 7.2mbps.. so you could notice a difference even though we dont have hspa enable devices... this is the first time that we can recieve more data than the phone can handle...

scrizz said:
maybe you need an actual HSPA+ phone.
and maybe they had activated it before they announced it
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yeah i thought about that too. I have an upgrade so I am gonna get the G2 when it comes out. But i still wanna do some test with normal 3g versus HSPA+

Not sure if this is related but when i go to settings and about and signals its showing that im connected to umts (3g) but when i tether to my vibrant it goes to hspda (3.5g).
3g falling in the range of less than 7.2 around 3-4mbps and 3.5g around 5-7. Ive done a speed test.
speedtest.net /result /927922215.png
Im not sure if thats accurate info on the connection type. I also know speedtest sites are never accurate on speeds. Someone let me know.

All I care about is that hsdpa gets me down speeds rivaling my cable connection and up speeds beating my cable connection. 5.5/1
6? Don't need more.
Unless I am at home where tmo never gives me much signal love
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DriftorX said:
Not sure if this is related but when i go to settings and about and signals its showing that im connected to umts (3g) but when i tether to my vibrant it goes to hspda (3.5g).
3g falling in the range of less than 7.2 around 3-4mbps and 3.5g around 5-7. Ive done a speed test.
speedtest.net /result /927922215.png
Im not sure if thats accurate info on the connection type. I also know speedtest sites are never accurate on speeds. Someone let me know.
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I just did the speed test on my Vibrant and thats the speeds I am getting. Dont remember what I was getting before tho.

I live in an HSPA+ city, and I haven't logged above 1.35mbps on the old speed test (usually far less -- around .5). Is that just the way the cookie crumbles (signal strength, etc.) or is that freakishly slow? (Going by the numbers cited in this thread, it sure sounds slow...)

pavvy said:
I live in an HSPA+ city, and I haven't logged above 1.35mbps on the old speed test (usually far less -- around .5). Is that just the way the cookie crumbles (signal strength, etc.) or is that freakishly slow? (Going by the numbers cited in this thread, it sure sounds slow...)
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I get about 0.5 at home, but 4-5 at work.

I'm jealous! -- I get mostly EDGE at work...

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I'm jealous! -- I get mostly EDGE at work...
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I only get edge at home. I live right outside of the hspa network...

I'm about 45 mins outside of hspa/3g networks, on most days around town, I stay on 3g
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curious if your phones are showing the "H" icon at the top when you're pulling HSPDA+

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curious if your phones are showing the "H" icon at the top when you're pulling HSPDA+
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Nope. our phones are not HSPA phones, but T-Mobile says that most phones will get faster speeds.

No the h isn't turned on... Gotta check in settings... Only stock phone that shows h is the n1..
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Looks like the HSPA+ network to me. You didn't notice anything because you we're already on it. They only announce it after it has a good amount of coverage over the existing HSPA/3G network. It actually starts to come online far before they announce it. I noticed HSPA+ 2 months before they said it was live (outside of the strip where it was turned on during CES or CTIA)

acjames said:
Nope. our phones are not HSPA phones, but T-Mobile says that most phones will get faster speeds.
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thought our phones were HSPA, but not HSPA+ - are you sure they're not HSPA??
reason i asked, mine has shown the "H" icon where the 3G icon usually is, but only "blue moon" events and maybe for a few hours duration when it does (according to Tmo's map, i'm in a "moderate" coverage area, and in a shallow valley in that area)
on a couple of those occasions i pulled 5.4 - 5.6 Mbps speedtests where i normally pull 1.1 - 1.4Mbps

larryccf said:
reason i asked, mine has shown the "H" icon where the 3G icon usually is, but only "blue moon" events and maybe for a few hours duration when it does
on a couple of those occasions i pulled 5.4 - 5.6 Mbps speedtests where i normally pull 1.1 - 1.4Mbps
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Interesting. I havent noticed mine doing that. But i cant say i have paid much attention to it either tho.

I want lte on my atrix!!!!

The Verizon LTE service is supposed to be the fastest out there.
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5923/holysh1tlte.jpg
BUT...
It looks like now that people have actually started to use LTE, the speeds have gone Way, Way down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma88UIRt1S0&feature=player_embedded#t=442s
Is anyone else beating this "4"g with hspa+?!

i dont know. the download was slow, around 2Mbps. but holy crap did you see the upload hitting 22Mbps!

Still beats the pants off my Atrix and AT&T.

Techcruncher said:
The Verizon LTE service is supposed to be the fastest out there.
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5923/holysh1tlte.jpg
BUT...
It looks like now that people have actually started to use LTE, the speeds have gone Way, Way down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma88UIRt1S0&feature=player_embedded#t=442s
Is anyone else beating this "4"g with hspa+?!
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Download????? only 2.97? WTF
Man LTE is sooooo amazing. But the uploading being 22 is f**king awesome!

just thought I would clear this up, The high uploads are due to the speedtest app not being able to measure LTE uploading correctly.
These scores are completely inaccurate.
It might as well say 99999999.9999999mbps upload.

Techcruncher said:
just thought I would clear this up, The high uploads are due to the speedtest app not being able to measure LTE uploading correctly.
These scores are completely inaccurate.
It might as well say 99999999.9999999mbps upload.
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Oh that makes sense. But I get those download speeds on my Moto Atrix!

Is anyone else having a problem with their atrix switching to Edge? I'll try to run a speed test or watch a video and it will just randomly switch to edge, then no signal, then back to H. What's the deal?

That was the point of this post. Most atrixes (Atrices?) are faster than this. Mine gets 5 down

Intersting results - mine were much different in Phoenix AZ.
I think in general the speedtest app is broken. When doing it on the webpage I was getting more consistantly between 15-20 MBps download and 5 MB upload.
I am actually giving back my atrix tomorrow. Best phone I have ever had, but the network is not even 3g speed out here (even with a microcell in my house I still can not get over 1.5 MB download and we all know about the stellar upload speed)
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Willing to bet the person in the video was on a 3g network and that 4g symbol never changes (just like H+ is always on for the atrix)

azwildfire said:
Intersting results - mine were much different in Phoenix AZ.
I think in general the speedtest app is broken. When doing it on the webpage I was getting more consistantly between 15-20 MBps download and 5 MB upload.
I am actually giving back my atrix tomorrow. Best phone I have ever had, but the network is not even 3g speed out here (even with a microcell in my house I still can not get over 1.5 MB download and we all know about the stellar upload speed)
Willing to bet the person in the video was on a 3g network and that 4g symbol never changes (just like H+ is always on for the atrix)
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Except.... EV-DOrA (CDMA 3g) Never goes above 1.4mbps down

Techcruncher said:
just thought I would clear this up, The high uploads are due to the speedtest app not being able to measure LTE uploading correctly.
These scores are completely inaccurate.
It might as well say 99999999.9999999mbps upload.
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Speedtest worked fine with Evo WiMax "4G".

knarfl1 said:
Speedtest worked fine with Evo WiMax "4G".
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Those are two different technologies though

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Except.... EV-DOrA (CDMA 3g) Never goes above 1.4mbps down
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I thought it was 3.1 max. Where do you see 1.4?
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try going to www.speakeasy.net/speedtest and running it through your browser. curious to see what you'd get there.

So if the Atrix only shows H+ than why does my Atrix switch a 3g symbol everyonce in awhile for a few seconds. I dont understand it.
My data has been so bad in my area I'm getting very upset, Im about to take my phone back and try to get out of contract if they dont fix it.

live4nyy said:
Those are two different technologies though
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Explain what makes LTE different such that Speedtest does not work.

knarfl1 said:
Explain what makes LTE different such that Speedtest does not work.
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LTE uses a single channel(SC)-FDMA while WiMax still uses OFDMA for their respective uplink signaling. OFDMA is what 3G uses, hence why you can still get an accurate reading on the Evo.

correct me if im wrong but doesnt the thunderbolt have horrendous battery

jiggytom said:
I thought it was 3.1 max. Where do you see 1.4?
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I don't know what the max is but usually see 2 - 2.5 on it here in the better areas.

@shanghei
People may be able to figure that out when people actually own it.
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HSPA+ Improvement

I know that the Atrix will not be compatible with AT&T LTE. When comparing Verizon's LTE with ATT's HSPA+, Verizon blows it out of the water. While I know that HSPA+ will never be as fast as LTE, does anyone know if there are plans to improve the speed of HSPA+ on ATT? I think it's able to perform speeds of 14 mpbs but the reports I have seen actually put it at 2-4 mbps.
Thanks,
Matt

Bracemg said:
I know that the Atrix will not be compatible with AT&T LTE. When comparing Verizon's LTE with ATT's HSPA+, Verizon blows it out of the water. While I know that HSPA+ will never be as fast as LTE, does anyone know if there are plans to improve the speed of HSPA+ on ATT? I think it's able to perform speeds of 14 mpbs but the reports I have seen actually put it at 2-4 mbps.
Thanks,
Matt
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They could very easily increase our speed, but the real question is "will they?".
It might be they are going to keep HSPA+ where it is because the network won't handle the volume of traffic, or might be because they want people to jump on LTE when they start that, (enthusiasts buying new LTE phones so they can utilize the faster speeds). in reality, we don't know, but can hope!

AT&T is slowly improving backhaul from what I hear. This should increase it pretty significantly, as T-Mobile is making similar improvements and seeing speeds in the 5+ mbps range. The most I've seen is 4.7 Mbps on my Atrix (up from 1.5 on my old Aria), so I know that the phone is capable of pretty significant speeds. The HSPA+ 14.4 radio on the Atrix is likely to top out at around 7-10 mbps once all the network improvements have been finished.

Most of the towers are fast enough already but they get bogged down easily by many more people using it than it can handle, when they increase bandwidth you'll see improvements
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estenh said:
AT&T is slowly improving backhaul from what I hear. This should increase it pretty significantly, as T-Mobile is making similar improvements and seeing speeds in the 5+ mbps range. The most I've seen is 4.7 Mbps on my Atrix (up from 1.5 on my old Aria), so I know that the phone is capable of pretty significant speeds. The HSPA+ 14.4 radio on the Atrix is likely to top out at around 7-10 mbps once all the network improvements have been finished.
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I almost broke 7 Mbps down this morning. Upload is a steady and consistent 1.2 Mbps.

I get 3.5 down and 1 up... I have no 4g here, at least that's what it says in about phone.
SIGH.
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Appologies for my ignorance, but what app are you using to measure speed?
Mgamerz said:
I get 3.5 down and 1 up... I have no 4g here, at least that's what it says in about phone.
SIGH.
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Bracemg said:
Appologies for my ignorance, but what app are you using to measure speed?
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Speedtest, pretty much the standard we all use:
Speedtest Mobile
If you use it, make sure to check settings and select the server closest to you. Speedtest can have a habit of picking a very distant server for you. Also, it sometimes pays to try different servers, as speed results will vary depending on the server and who runs it.

CaelanT said:
Speedtest, pretty much the standard we all use:
Speedtest Mobile
If you use it, make sure to check settings and select the server closest to you. Speedtest can have a habit of picking a very distant server for you. Also, it sometimes pays to try different servers, as speed results will vary depending on the server and who runs it.
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Just as a recommendation, if you get consistently varied results on the Speedtest app you can try different servers but also try http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/. It seems to give me far more consistent results, but I'm not sure about anyone else. The desktop page should load fine with that strong Flash support!

Yup, Speakeasy is another good one!
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tethering (hack) to my macbook air over wifi.

Why do review sites keep posting low download speeds with HSPA+?

I don't get it I keep seeing them post speeds of 200-300KBps with HSPA+........ running speedtest on my GS2 I'm getting around 1.5MBps and yes I mean Byte and not bit. HSPA+ in theory can go to 21mbps so there is still room to grow to at least 2MBps with HSPA+. Then with DCHSPA+ with the Nexus 4 on paper you can reach speeds of 4-5MBps and my friend who lives in another country has a DCHSPA+ modem and he is speedtested it for me and got 3.8MBps.
I see all these LTE 4G speeds and they're getting from 21mbps - 32mbps in most cases which is like 2.5MBps -4MBps in speed.
I mean I'm getting not far off that right now with Three in the UK on my GS2 and I haven't even tried a DCHSPA device yet, I'm not sure if three support it.
I don't get where these sites are getting 200-300KBps speeds from?

On T-Mobile with the galaxy s2 I got speeds around 15Mbps down and about 3-4Mbps upload on their HSPA+42. Nexus 4 should get the same. Although T-Mobile has very limited HSPA+ where I am living now so I won't be able to test in that same area for a while.. Those reviews are garbage, just saying

ctowne said:
On T-Mobile with the galaxy s2 I got speeds around 15Mbps down and about 3-4Mbps upload on their HSPA+42. Nexus 4 should get the same. Although T-Mobile has very limited HSPA+ where I am living now so I won't be able to test in that same area for a while.. Those reviews are garbage, just saying
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Yeh so you're getting like 1.8MBps which tbh is more than enough for a mobile but also close to these poor LTE speeds which are really just DCHSPA+ speeds.

Venekor said:
Yeh so you're getting like 1.8MBps which tbh is more than enough for a mobile but also close to these poor LTE speeds which are really just DCHSPA+ speeds.
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It's more than enough for what I need data for, which is basically streaming music, the occasional youtube video, and webpages/checking email.

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It's more than enough for what I need data for, which is basically streaming music, the occasional youtube video, and webpages/checking email.
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It's also not much slower than LTE right now......
I don't see how all these sites seem to be getting such low speeds.

Its just depends on your luck on how close the celltower is to you. At my work its over 20Mbps with an SII, at home its more around 5Mbps.

I have seen lots of t-mobile and AT&T cell sites. Really depends on if they have upgraded to a true fiber, like using the local Comcast or other high speed provider. Or if they are still using the multiple t1 lines to power it.
A lot of sites with multiple cell providers, usually AT&T will have copper into site, while the others have a fiber connection. Just depends. =/ Even if you see fiber into the cell site, it can just mean they are using it for distance run, coming from t1 station down the road.
Some of these sites have some really old stuff in them. Kinda hit or miss on the ones that have a really good internet connection to them.
My input. Just from seeing the cell sites.
And if you are right under a cell site, you never connect to that one...to much signal. It connects you to one further away
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Venekor said:
It's also not much slower than LTE right now......
I don't see how all these sites seem to be getting such low speeds.
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They must be using AT&T because their HSPA+ network can be pretty slow sometimes, compared to T-Mobile that is. In my area AT&T gets about 2-4Mbps down and maybe 1Mbps up.

I had my father's galaxy s2 (42mbps) and my galaxy nexus (21mbps) right next to each other dieting a speed test.
Galaxy s2 always got double the speed. He was getting 14mbps and I couldn't break 7mbps
I know radios and software and everything else come into play, but the potential for more is there
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Unless you're on att or coming from another carrier to tmo and not sure what you'll get why would you be worried about this. If you're already on tmo you should get the same or better speeds, correct?
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And I'm pretty sure there will be different radios we can install. I'll probably install the radio I have on my sgs2.
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I was wondering how the speeds actually were since I'll be coming from Verizon.

With tmo in south fla you will get around 8-23 down and 1-5 upload.

What about speeds for AT&T in southern california?

Here is a wild guess; (most) reviewers are in an area which was affected by Sandy.

That's just B.S. I live close to DC area and I got upto 21 MBPS on my HTC ONE S. LTE doesn't necessarily mean its faster than HSPA+ .T-Mo's HSPA+ is awesome but probably ignorant people can't tell the difference.

You can check data speeds for your carrier at rootmetrics. In my area, T-Mobile gets at best 1 mb download. Verizon has LTE here which gets 20 - 30 mbps. Stupid fast. That being said, I'm probably going with AT&T via Straight Talk.

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And I'm pretty sure there will be different radios we can install. I'll probably install the radio I have on my sgs2.
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This is a very bad idea.
1) The flash will most likely fail.
2) If it did somehow flash your baseband will be screwed.

These are theoretical speeds, anyway. I have never had more than 7 or 8 Mbps down on my phone. And it just depends on cellphone traffic through that particular tower, I think. I have done speed tests countless times when I barely crack 1 Mbps on "HSPA+".

This is what I am getting with t-mobile, and i am happy lol
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OMG Thats some fast internet

This is sitting in my house.
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YellowGTO said:
This is sitting in my house.
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Let me be the first to say, "I HATE YOU!" JK, im so jealous since i only get like 5-8MB around my house.

RMXO said:
Let me be the first to say, "I HATE YOU!" JK, im so jealous since i only get like 5-8MB around my house.
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LoL. I was really surprised by the mobile speed on this phone. Now I can burn them 26GBs in minutes

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This is sitting in my house.
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Nice, I wonder what the phone is capable of, I've got 1Gb of speed at my place.

I already get 235Mb/s+ with my S7 Edge so I think the limit is your ISP and WiFi, not the phone.

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This is sitting in my house.
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4G LTE or wifive?? )
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you are taking abt wifi speed through broadband connection. but this is pure lte speed.
craigdamey said:
I already get 235Mb/s+ with my S7 Edge so I think the limit is your ISP and WiFi, not the phone.
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Yes, didn't notice the provider id of 'T-Mobile'. If that's the case this is definitely fast. I just checked my S7 and I got 98/17 with a ping of 31ms.

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Dunno just says 4G LTE ont he phone

I am actually anxious to see how this thing does in a couple of months. Im on AT&T and i live just outside of Indianapolis which, from what i understand, is the first market AT&T is launching 5g in this summer.

Wait for 5G to kick in, then we'll see what this beast can do
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Anyone with FAST wifi do speed tests?
One of my issues with the S7E is its wifi was much slower than my Note 5.
My iPhone 7+ hits 600+ up and down on our wave2 AC wifi network here.
The S7E had fast LTE though. Fastest speedtest (Verizon) I recall was around 130 down and 50 up. That's smoking for LTE but bad if you don't have unlimited. LOL

cpufrost said:
Anyone with FAST wifi do speed tests?
One of my issues with the S7E is its wifi was much slower than my Note 5.
My iPhone 7+ hits 600+ up and down on our wave2 AC wifi network here.
The S7E had fast LTE though. Fastest speedtest (Verizon) I recall was around 130 down and 50 up. That's smoking for LTE but bad if you don't have unlimited. LOL
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I was able to hit 536Mbps, but i'm pretty far from my router. When my kid wakes up ill get close and see the max speed. It says the link is 833mbps

cloudraker said:
I am actually anxious to see how this thing does in a couple of months. Im on AT&T and i live just outside of Indianapolis which, from what i understand, is the first market AT&T is launching 5g in this summer.
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Indy might be high on the list but Dallas is first. They are already testing in Dallas

YellowGTO said:
I was able to hit 536Mbps, but i'm pretty far from my router. When my kid wakes up ill get close and see the max speed. It says the link is 833mbps
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The link speed is all over the place. The wifi app only goes to 866 but it sometimes pegs the meter and goes over 999. LOL
Getting great speeds on wifi. Similar speeds to my 2016 macbook pro! The wifi radio on this is excellent. Haven't tried lower signals to see how it fares yet.

Ok TMOBLE this is B.S.! I'm in Las Vegas and getting speed at as low as 20 , 30 k down.. that k ..NOT meg
And TMOBLE is telling me there no problem
Best I've seen in burst of 7 meg
The has been going on since I got the phone

I'm pulling over 630mbps at my house. That's Wi-Fi though ?

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