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Hey guys, about 3 weeks ago I bought a Galaxy S3 (after waiting for MONTHS to get one, by the way) at first I was delighted with the performance and looks, but after 3 days I noticed I had a stuck pixel (it was black, on a blue screen) using the *#0*# test
Okay, I got a bit sad and went to the store to get it replaced, and so I did, second one......noticed the same problem some time later
Tried AGAIN, went to the store, this time they let me open as many units as I wanted to , to find a perfect one, I went through SEVEN , ALL OF THEM with stuck pixels in some color (green, red, blue) after more than an hour looking I TOUGHT I found a flawless one.....went home with it to apply a screen protector, while I was doing that I found another stuck pixel, couldnt believe what I was seeing
Went to the store ONE MORE TIME to get ANOTHER replacement, the LAST one.....took it out of the box, and there it was, a black pixel on the green screen, just gave up and got my money back
What the hell is going on with samsung? I just wanted a flawless screen, afte all, its a state of the art device, should be flawless!!!
By the way Im from Brazil and the phones were all unbranded
Might be the imported batch .
Mine is flawless .
jje
Must be the batch, mine is flawless on the LCD test.
No stuck pixels here.
Perfect here too haha. Wait two weeks then go back and try again.
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Tested a few and no stuck pixels on any colour background. Bad batch for sure.
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Perfect screen here too. Honestly, I have yet to buy a device with dead pixels or similiar flaws, lol. Guess I'm lucky.
Mine is flawless as well - no dead pixels at all. So you waited months? It was released at 29th of May, so in the worst case you waited about 1,5 months.
To be perfectly honest, I don't believe your story...
When I said "waited for months" I meant: I was going to buy the S2, after finding out the S3 was gonna come out I decided to wait, and in my country it was only released at the day I bought it (about 3 weeks ago) so yes, I waited for about 6 months just dreaming about it
If you dont believe me I have one good solution for you:
The big X on the upper right of your screen, click it and witness the magic
For everyone else I hope it was just a bad batch really, for christ sake I loved the device but I cant stand anything but perfection on a US$1000 handheld (its how much it costs here on Brazil)
So you waited months? It was released at 29th of May, so in the worst case you waited about 1,5 months.
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He probably waited since it's announcement and possibly even before. But that's pointless to calculate, since one might say I've waited for years to get it... Which btw is true since I knew that more or less the 3.generation would be around roughly at the time my S1's 2year contract was over.
but after 3 days I noticed I had a stuck pixel
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I'm very sure you've not found a single Samsung Galaxy i9X00 phone with a stuck pixel and you probably never will. AMOLED screens have no moving parts so the pixels cannot get stuck as with LCD but either die (dead pixel) or react too slow (lazy pixel). Factory-defects such as pixels lighting at the wrong time or shorting with others are of course also possible.
I went through SEVEN , ALL OF THEM with stuck pixels in some color
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Have you actually tried apps designed for stuck pixel / dead pixel repair? Often enough the pixel can be revived regardless of whether it's an (O)LED or LCD screen.
My dear friend im sorry for using the wrong expression.....im used to LCD screens and I would call it a stuck pixel because it cant reproduce one especific color (for example the pixel which presents itself black on a blue screen)
Yes, I tried the "unstucking" apps, left them running for hours and hours, like 12 hours at least, it didnt make any difference
Guess I'll just have to wait 2 months and try again, lets hope Im luckier this time, since its not looking to be a general problem...
That was (very faint) humor, so don't take it too personal :silly:
I think everyone understood what you meant, you just used the wrong term for the technology in question
Hmm, that definitively sounds like a bad batch. However I'm surprised, since Samsung's quality control might let one or 2 units slip but ALL of them having defects? I dunno, but that kinda sounds strange...
Maybe your seller got duped into buying units which Samsung's quality control filtered out. Only a hypothesis but well...
On an interested side note: How hard or easy are the dead pixels to spot? Maybe some of us got them but are unable to notice.
The brain is very good at interpolating missing parts of an image or color. Also how bright was it in the room?
I've recently seen a darker splotch on the screen on the red color but can't find it anymore. (Maybe it was just dirt after all...)
Probably a bad batch, I also bought in Brazil and it is perfect.
d4fseeker said:
That was (very faint) humor, so don't take it too personal :silly:
I think everyone understood what you meant, you just used the wrong term for the technology in question
Hmm, that definitively sounds like a bad batch. However I'm surprised, since Samsung's quality control might let one or 2 units slip but ALL of them having defects? I dunno, but that kinda sounds strange...
Maybe your seller got duped into buying units which Samsung's quality control filtered out. Only a hypothesis but well...
On an interested side note: How hard or easy are the dead pixels to spot? Maybe some of us got them but are unable to notice.
The brain is very good at interpolating missing parts of an image or color. Also how bright was it in the room?
I've recently seen a darker splotch on the screen on the red color but can't find it anymore. (Maybe it was just dirt after all...)
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All of them were very easy to see, at least for me
juliano_q said:
Probably a bad batch, I also bought in Brazil and it is perfect.
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Hey there.....in which retailer did you get yours?
I bought mine from FastShop (phisical store)
ReaperBR said:
Hey there.....in which retailer did you get yours?
I bought mine from FastShop (phisical store)
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Hey, I bought mine at a Vivo store.
Bought pre-ordered on phone from verizon - 32gb w/2 gb ram. Unit made in china (blue) - unit flies and screen is flawless
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i had to take my gs3 back to the shop because of a fault with the phone but that was my own fault. but ye the man behind the counter said the gs3 has never had a problem no one has brought one back apart from me to the store so the phones that you went throught must have been fake or something because these are the beat phones out and you dont get any problems with them.
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Hey guys, about 3 weeks ago I bought a Galaxy S3 (after waiting for MONTHS to get one, by the way) at first I was delighted with the performance and looks, but after 3 days I noticed I had a stuck pixel (it was black, on a blue screen) using the *#0*# test
Okay, I got a bit sad and went to the store to get it replaced, and so I did, second one......noticed the same problem some time later
Tried AGAIN, went to the store, this time they let me open as many units as I wanted to , to find a perfect one, I went through SEVEN , ALL OF THEM with stuck pixels in some color (green, red, blue) after more than an hour looking I TOUGHT I found a flawless one.....went home with it to apply a screen protector, while I was doing that I found another stuck pixel, couldnt believe what I was seeing
Went to the store ONE MORE TIME to get ANOTHER replacement, the LAST one.....took it out of the box, and there it was, a black pixel on the green screen, just gave up and got my money back
What the hell is going on with samsung? I just wanted a flawless screen, afte all, its a state of the art device, should be flawless!!!
By the way Im from Brazil and the phones were all unbranded
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Lets just get one thing straight, a black pixel is considered as a dead pixel, other colours are considered as stuck or bright pixels, it's also normal for a screen to have upto 3-5 pixels problem according to the international standard, so you are luck the shop will allow you get a refund after all the unboxed you did, not that anyone will blame you if you get a dead or stuck pixels in the middle of the screen is quite annoying.
anyway here is my story with problems
1 st unit was a in store inspection, out of the box the power button was stuck.
2nd unit, instore inspection the phone had a few specks of dust in screen.
3rd unit seems fine, and thats the unit I took home until I made and received call, although calls made instore were fine, 99.8% of them, the calls will just cut off between 3 minutes and 7 minutes.
Next day
4th unit had more dust in the screen.
5th unit had a black dead pixel in blue screen.
6th unit with instore inspection seem ok, took this home and then I noticed there was a problem with the wifi.
Phone detects wifi but won't connect, just saves into the memory and sometimes it will connect.
Also my router has 3 ssid set, guest, 5ghz and 2.4ghz, most of the time it will just detect one of the 3 ssid while the other 2 will be detected about 5-7 minutes later.
I also have one of the air drive where i can stream music or video from a portable box, most of the time it won't even connect, but the phone detect the signal, if it connects, it won't stream.
If a wifi signal connects, just moving a meter or two away from the router will disconnect.
In all cases the wifi signal detected is very strong.
Next day
7th unit in store inspection found a dark grey stuck pixel in a dark grey background using pixel testers.
8th unit, the greyish silver side of the phone was made very bad.
Next day did not exchange phones
9th unit one tiny speck of dust right at the top of the right corner of the screen.
10th unit, there were two white spot on the bezel, one next to the ear piece and sensor and the other on the side near the volume, both on top next to the screen.
before I check the 9th and 10th phone I did say I will check 2 more unit and if unlucky I will return it to samsung and have the phone's wifi fixed instead, as I did have a good screen.
Well I took the 9th phone as the 1 speck of dust didn't stand out that much.
upto now the phone is working very well.
there you go, my short story.
It's interesting to see that there seem to be quality control issues with devices sold by Hong-Kong retailer and a brazilian retailer.
Both locations are known to have a lot of fake or "fell of the truck" electronic devices, so I stand by my earlier hypothesis that they might not be devices from a batch Samsung ever intended for sale.
(This does not mean the seller knew about it, any part of the delivery chain can be the cause)
I had one with screen raise ... otherwise great. I don't want the hassle of endless refund cycles.
So, for new (or recent) orders from the Play store which I am assuming is the fastest clearing channel... do they still have the screen lift problem.
i.e. has the hardware been rev'd yet ? Anyone with a recent delivery know....
I just got my replacement today. I don't want to speak too soon but it's been out of the box for about 2 hrs and hey it looks fine right now. I'm gonna charge it and use it a little and see if anything pops up so to say and I'll update later tonight.
Edit: I wish there was a way to tell the hardware revision if there is one at all. I might crack these both open before I send my other one back and see if I can spot any differences.
I don't consider the screen lift an issue so I would have to say you have been good since day one. Other than that I haven't heard anything on "New batches" being released.
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I don't consider the screen lift an issue so I would have to say you have been good since day one. Other than that I haven't heard anything on "New batches" being released.
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Not sure how its NOT and issue. Considering if the screen lifts to much the tablet wont work correctly. That being said I have got my replacement and I have a feeling its going to do the same thing. If you look down the sides of the tablet you will notice where the glass doesnt connect to the case. Thats where the screen is going to lift and the way this one looks its going to be just a matter of time before the screen lifts.
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Not sure how its NOT and issue. Considering if the screen lifts to much the tablet wont work correctly. That being said I have got my replacement and I have a feeling its going to do the same thing. If you look down the sides of the tablet you will notice where the glass doesnt connect to the case. Thats where the screen is going to lift and the way this one looks its going to be just a matter of time before the screen lifts.
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I have had the screen lift since day one and have no issues since. Don't understand how a slim screen lift is going to bork the device.
Got my second unit Wednesday. It has screen lift as well.
I would definitely advise against buying retail, but I think Google can be trusted. I'm just going to hold onto this defective one for a month or two. Then I'll ask for a replacement.
No regrets, although I was pretty miffed about opening a new one with the same flaw when it happened.
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I have had the screen lift since day one and have no issues since. Don't understand how a slim screen lift is going to bork the device.
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Did I say it would bork the device....no. If you want to use it with the screen lift good for you.
Mine has a tiny irrelevant bulge...should I return it guys oh noes it isn't perfect ;(
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Guys... we are getting off topic. The question is not whether the screen lift is an issue to some (and not others).. but when will the hardware be rev'd so that the screen is flat.
a) Never (not considered an issue).
b) Soon - but still not yet shipping.
c) New ones are now coming in with flush screens.
Not gonna make this a poll.
Just want to know if those who have taken recent delivery have got flush screens....
tribestros said:
Mine has a tiny irrelevant bulge...should I return it guys oh noes it isn't perfect ;(
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i got a cherry 87 buick I would like to sell you
Maybe your right, my touchscreen stopped working after use and the screen lift. I guess I should have kept it
I bought mine retail from Office Depot on 7/17 and haven't had a single problem with it.
In the UK I'm waiting until they physically have them in the stores. Right now it tends to be buy online and pick up in store a couple of days later. I got one last Friday from Tesco Direct and it had the screen-lift (this IS a fault) so took it straight back. I'd rather be taking back and getting a replacement straight away rather than waiting 2-3 days...or 10 days and counting with the crappy service offered by Google
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In the UK I'm waiting until they physically have them in the stores. Right now it tends to be buy online and pick up in store a couple of days later. I got one last Friday from Tesco Direct and it had the screen-lift (this IS a fault) so took it straight back. I'd rather be taking back and getting a replacement straight away rather than waiting 2-3 days...or 10 days and counting with the crappy service offered by Google
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Careful with buying in store. It may not be considered a fault (for the reasons expressed elsewhere in this thread) and if you do not have UK DSR law then you may not be able (allowed) to make a return. I wouldn't fancy my chances in CPW or Currys of doing a return if the device is functioning (but just not quite flush).
Most UK retailers allow you to return for simply not liking the product. In Tesco the guy told me it didn't matter if it was faulty as it was within their X days return. They'll be selling them in store in a couple of weeks apparently.
tribestos, fail to see how OCD relates to finding a fault on a piece of hardware. It's not like people are obsessively looking for faults. The screen isn't supposed to lift but it does. That's a design flaw.
So somebody must be taking the hit for all the returns... is it the retailer or do they just return the units back to the manufacturer and not pay for the duff ones ?
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Guys... we are getting off topic. The question is not whether the screen lift is an issue to some (and not others).. but when will the hardware be rev'd so that the screen is flat.
a) Never (not considered an issue).
b) Soon - but still not yet shipping.
c) New ones are now coming in with flush screens.
Not gonna make this a poll.
Just want to know if those who have taken recent delivery have got flush screens....
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The replacement 7s poll has gotten sunnier, although people are voting prematurely. Also, it's not public, but I don't think many would tamper with it.
Although I have not seen a unit without this defect, there are at least a few posters there who should know exactly what to look for and haven't found any separation in their replacement whatsoever. That's a good sign, and that poll was pretty ugly last Wednesday, so the vast majority of respondents since then have been ticking perfect.
As for when this flaw will be officially dealt with, probably never. But don't hold that against Google. They can make right by rooting out the manufacturing flaw and dealing with unsatisfied customers on an individual basis. No need for any headlines.
Got my first Nexus 7 on the 17th. I was somewhat unhappy with how washed out the colors were. Also when I play a video the screen gets even more washed out for a short period of time. Generally just looks unsatisfactory. Also I have a row of pixels that sometimes flickers.
On the 24th I got my replacement Nexus 7. It was also washed out looking, had the same video playback issue. And the glass was raise on the left side if I held it there the screen would distort slightly.
I called Google today to get a feel on if I should try a second replacement or get a refund. The lady at Google said that Google has the new batch in now and says it has fixed the issues the first batch had with raised glass, pixel issues, and color quality.
So I'm doing a second RMA now. She's even letting me RMA the second device while I still have my first device (was worried I'd need to send that back before starting the second RMA).
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Got my first Nexus 7 on the 17th. I was somewhat unhappy with how washed out the colors were. Also when I play a video the screen gets even more washed out for a short period of time. Generally just looks unsatisfactory. Also I have a row of pixels that sometimes flickers.
On the 24th I got my replacement Nexus 7. It was also washed out looking, had the same video playback issue. And the glass was raise on the left side if I held it there the screen would distort slightly.
I called Google today to get a feel on if I should try a second replacement or get a refund. The lady at Google said that Google has the new batch in now and says it has fixed the issues the first batch had with raised glass, pixel issues, and color quality.
So I'm doing a second RMA now. She's even letting me RMA the second device while I still have my first device (was worried I'd need to send that back before starting the second RMA).
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Wow that is brilliant news... assuming that the CS adviser was being honest.
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Mine has a tiny irrelevant bulge...should I return it guys oh noes it isn't perfect ;(
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You have that choice. But when I spend my money on something I expect it to be built w/o flaws. Hope the glass dont fall out on you when the screws get to lose! Oh you wont care tho it will still be irrelevant right?
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Wow that is brilliant news... assuming that the CS adviser was being honest.
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Yeah, I hope she wasn't blowing smoke up my butt. That happens too. But I figure with the 16GB Nexus 7 suddenly returning to the Play store and the CS telling me this, it's hopefully correct.
I ordered a Nexus 7 16GB from Google Store and it ships tomorrow. I have used Asus tablets before but never have seen one with these severe problems like cracked screens, lifted screens, and flickering of screens. Seems some people get a good working tablet and others get crappy ones. Did I make a big mistake ordering from Google as far a returns and exchanges go?
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I ordered a Nexus 7 16GB from Google Store and it ships tomorrow. I have used Asus tablets before but never have seen one with these severe problems like cracked screens, lifted screens, and flickering of screens. Seems some people get a good working tablet and others get crappy ones. Did I make a big mistake ordering from Google as far a returns and exchanges go?
dja2k
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" Did I make a big mistake ordering from Google as far a returns and exchanges go? "
As far as returns you made the best possible choice, as Google sends you a new tablet and you send the old one back in cases of screen lift or light bleed or flickering. On the bright side all these reports are blown out of proportion either by detractors or just by nitpickers posting the same rant on different threads to let out frustration. The truth is the majority of N7 owners are happy, as am I. Have fun with your N7.
You didn't make a mistake. Your best bet is a retail store or Google. Other online retailers, and ebay, I would say you made a bad choice.
Good luck!
Thanks! Okay that is a relief to hear, now I will have to look for these defects and see if they are any as Google only allows 15 days to return.
dja2k
If you buy it from the play store then you've made the right decision. Yes there was a chance that there was some problem with the initial batch,but its all fixed by now. Plus if there is any wrong with it google will replace it for no question asked.
Just got mine today with C70K batch and it had the left side screen lift, not as bad as I've seen, but its there. I contacted Google and they will replace it, but I wonder if the next one will be the same.
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only problem with the google replacement is you have to live without that $300 for a week or so :silly:
Are you talking about the cross shipping charge? If so, its okay, it would be like a temporary charge on my credit card.
The problem is, damn I wonder if I will eventually get a good tablet. The lifted screen looked bad, when you press it, it sticks for a while then lifts up...unacceptable.
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dja2k said:
The problem is, damn I wonder if I will eventually get a good tablet. The lifted screen looked bad, when you press it, it sticks for a while then lifts up...unacceptable.
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Although the chances of getting a perfectly flush screen are dicey, it sounds like the lift of the one you received is unusually obvious and severe.
While you have this one, it wouldn't be a bad idea to get acquainted with the defect.
Try turning it on and pressing the left side to see if there's any distortion, like dark ripples. Listen for any sticking or clicking noises while you do this. Does it feel spongey? These are things you should check for even if your screen lift weren't noticeable.
But there are perfect units out there, so if your replacement has problems just keep trying.
I didn't bother testing more before I quickly contacted Google for my replacement. No problem getting it replaced without giving me the walk-around, pretty good return experience. Hopefully my next tablet isn't defective, I will find out later tonight.
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dja2k said:
I didn't bother testing more before I quickly contacted Google for my replacement. No problem getting it replaced without giving me the walk-around, pretty good return experience. Hopefully my next tablet isn't defective, I will find out later tonight.
dja2k
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2nd Device came in and same deal, left side lift and now this one has right corner lift that makes a cracking sound when pressed down. Also it was C70K stock, so I have contacted Google once more for a replacement.
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Got my replacement again today and this one seems to be alright. Still C70K batch, but no serious screen lift (minor - just a tad), no dead pixel, speaker works, headphone output works, and no screen flicker either. I think I am sticking with this one for now but have some questions if anyone can answer them.
Does anyone know how Google handles if defects appear after their initial 15 day return period? I mean do you send in the tablet and if found defective, then you get it repaired or replaced and does it cost anything more than shipping for us while under the 12 month warranty?
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So I got my 2 new Pandas XL today after waiting a month and I first opened the 64Gb version set it up and then I notice at the top of the edge of the frame a little hole kind of like a mic hole or like a light hole. I thought maybe it was part of the phone but the more I looked at it the more I notice I looked like a chip. I opened the 128gb and that one was perfect. Called Google and I set up a return, they said they would send me a new one but I would have to wait again 2 to 3 weeks. So I said I was just going to return it for a refund and they would not do anything else to make up for it! Long story short check your pixels and inspect it good I don't know how they can send products out like this.
Just wondering.
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Just wondering.
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Mine is but shutdown prob sometimes
I bought a 2nd one so I'm a bit paranoid about going all in and using it as my main device only for it to BLOD on me at some point.
The 6P was and still is my favorite phone. Loved the design and performance and camera, battery life was poor though.
I've owned about 5 over the years. My latest one got used for a good while and is now used as a backup phone in the family and still ticks along okay, battery is shot though!
My current pixel 2xl which I just bought second hand feels a lot like the 6P did, which is nice to see.
Mine ?
Cool. So not every phone is a lemon?
Funnily enough I bought a 2nd hand pixel 2 XL and I thought the screen was terrible - it was just way too blue. So I sold it and bought the N6P. The screen is much better then the pixel IMHO plus I put £100 in my back pocket.
Not mine
Phone is stuck in bootloop for a year or 2 now
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Cool. So not every phone is a lemon?
Funnily enough I bought a 2nd hand pixel 2 XL and I thought the screen was terrible - it was just way too blue. So I sold it and bought the N6P. The screen is much better then the pixel IMHO plus I put £100 in my back pocket.
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I bought a 2nd hand pixel 2XL for £90 and am selling it already, crap battery (compared to my Moto Z Play) and the mobile reception was poor, even compared to the 6P.
Screen isn't bad, but can't forgive the reception and the battery.
£90 is a very good price for a pixel 2 XL. The battery on the pixel 2 I had was decent but the screen was poor for the price.
I am using it right now actually. Whenever I decide to get rid of it, I start using it again and it's so smooth and good to hold.
Maybe I could just replace the battery....
The mobile reception is a pain though. It isn't awful, but it is worse than my previous phones.
mine got into a bootloop last year n the power button is broken so theres really no saving it. ended up going with a galaxy s8+ duos. only thing i miss is the smooth n stable aosp roms tbh.
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mine got into a bootloop last year n the power button is broken so theres really no saving it. ended up going with a galaxy s8+ duos. only thing i miss is the smooth n stable aosp roms tbh.
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Are you not part of the class action that succeeded recently?
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Are you not part of the class action that succeeded recently?
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i bought my 6P refurbished in late 2017 and i dont think that the class action applies to me since i didnt purchase the phone from google or a service provider.
Mine (128 GB) is still going but the battery is worn out. drains fast when used and shuts down around 30%. just moved to a Moto last weeks as a primary. VZ warranty offered to replace my 6p with a Moto z Force or reimburse for battery replacement.. Other than than it looks like new and works quite well still.
Got mine yesterday. Abit battered but it works. Battery replaced and all working good on full 8 cores. Doesn't heat up much either? going to replace housing and it will look new again.
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Got mine yesterday. Abit battered but it works. Battery replaced and all working good on full 8 cores. Doesn't heat up much either? going to replace housing and it will look new again.
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What phone have you come from?
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What phone have you come from?
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I'm going to get ripped for this but a pixel 2.
Me too! Did you find the screen awful? It was so blue. So I sold it and put £100 in my back pocket and bought the 6P.
I bought the pixel 2nd hand but I only kept it for a week or two.
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Me too! Did you find the screen awful? It was so blue. So I sold it and put £100 in my back pocket and bought the 6P.
I bought the pixel 2nd hand but I only kept it for a week or two.
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Mine was a 2 xl in black. Screen was fine. Broke because of water damage, no rescuing it. So bought one from a mate of mine. He hadn't used it in a while so sold me it dirt cheap replace battery and housing and looks good as new.
I have a Pixel 2xl that broke. I'm out of town and won't be home for a month, to get it fixed. But I have my trusty 6p as back up. I bought it brand new, when they came out. I forgot what a darn good phone it is. It's one of my all time favorites. Still going strong. I'm so glad I kept it.