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I read the first post, and it said when the update is released, I can get it even if I'm rooted (no custom rom). If I update and I''m rooted, and it will unroot me, can I just unroot again? Or should I just unroot beforehand and update and root again? Will anything change when I unroot or will I just lose superuser?
You can to it anyway you want. Anyway you will get the 2.2 update either from t-mo/samsung or the forum "in the near future".
Okay, thank you
Hi, I've been looking around several threads but it was hard to find an answer.
My new Xperia Play phone should be arriving any day now, so I'm just getting everything ready tutorial-wise for rooting my phone. However I'm unclear on a few things!
Firstly, once I have unlocked the bootloader, a certain tutorial tells me to use 'play_modded.img' as the necessary root package to root my phone. Are there different root packages for the Xperia Play or just one?
Second, once I have rooted my phone, should I update to 2.3.3 firmware? Should I update to 2.3.3 before I begin rooting? Or is it not possible to root the 2.3.3 software at the moment and so just stay with 2.3.2?
What are the differences with the firmware updates and are they necessary?
Thirdly, being from the UK I am pretty sure that my phone is R800i, is there anything I need to take into consideration when rooting for having an Xperia from a specific region?
I hope you guys can help and sorry for the noobish questions, this is my first smartphone (and a good choice, I hope!).
Don't update if you unlocked your bootloader.... Your play will probably come as 2.3.3 already. So you need to flash it to 2.3.2 uk generic WITHOUT unlocking the bootloader. Root the 2.3.2 and then update to 2.3.3 through phone (ota, without hooking it up to computer at all)
Sent from my XPlay using XDA App.
Never do any ota updates through phone if you decided to unlock the bootloader. As of now there is no reason to unlock bootloader because cm7 is not ready yet.
Sent from my XPlay using XDA App.
What is 'Ota'? I'm more confused now!
Also, what is 'cm7'?
Why are you saying there is no reason to unlock the bootloader, is this not the first step in order to root your phone?
If you only want root, then no. You need to root with gingerbreak, but it will only work with 2.3.2
Maybe it would be best if you checked in again when you receive your play then it will be easier to guide you?
If the play is on 2.3.2 it will be very easy and if it's on 2.3.3 it will take some more work.
OTA is over the air, it just means that you can update over 3g or on wifi, no need of a cmputer
As i see it you'll get the best out of just rooting for now and through that get some knowledge and learn a bit of basics with android modding
Regards Dousan...
Thanks Dousan, it's making a lot more sense now!
I heard that 2.3.3 fixes quite a lot of bugs, so will rooting on 2.3.2 and remaining on a rooted 2.3.2 not be a disadvantage?
I checked out what CM7 project was all about, a custom rom? It sounds really good, I'm genuinely excited about all the added features!
Could someone please link me to a good tutorial on how to use Gingerbreak with the Xperia Play?
Are there any disadvantages of rooting the Xperia Play at the minute (other than the chance of a brick)?
Once rooted, does the custom .img flashed to the phone contain any bloatware? Is there a guide on how to remove the bloatware and other tricks to speed up the phone, customizing it to make it better?
I presume that flashing the new .img to the phone will cause the pre-installed free games such as Crash Bandicoot to be erased, is there any way to keep them?
First see here. <-- is a guide to root the xplay with a locked bootloader and still be able to update to 2.3.3.
You do not have to stay on 2.3.2 once you have rooted. But rooting will only work on 2.3.2 since in 2.3.3 the exploit gingerbreak uses was patched. But if you follow the guide in the link above. You can use gingerbreak on 2.3.2 then use OTA (not seus or pc companion) to update and it will keep your root access and upgrade you to 2.3.3.
To install CM7 you will need an unlocked bootloader. I plan to install it when a stable version is released. My bootloader is still locked atm. So its a case of just unlocking the bootloader when CM7 is stable and installing it. I would keep your bootloader locked untill you have a bit more experience (since you could brick your phone if you use SEUS or OTA or PC Comapnion to update once the bootloader is unlocked)
No need for a tutorial for gingerbreak. Simply put the Gingerbreak.apk on your sd card then use a file manager such as astro to navigate to it. Open it and just click the root button (for some people it took 20+ mins, in my case was like 1 minute).
No real disadvantages to rooting. Rooting will not damage your phone at all. Since all you are doing is gaining admin rights, it what you do after root that could semi-brick it. As long as your bootloader is locked you can use SEUS to fully repair the phone from brick anyways (which is highly unlikely to happen) Just see here for stuff that is safe to remove after root and you will be ok.
You are not flashing the .img since thats for people with an unlocked bootloader. Just follow the guide at the top of my post and all will be good. If you remove/freeze the bloat your phone will run better anyways. Since rooting and freezing bloat anything i have thrown at my phone has caused it no problems apart from some games on FPSE.
i used the above guide and im now on rooted 2.3.3
and yea i stupidy semi-bricked mine i forgot to put usb debugging on before flashing ha but yea seus update sorted that out
flashed again, rooted, then OTA update
Ah so Im about to get xplay from ATT and have been searching and finding more questions than answers. First is, is the ATT 4G version not rooted yet? and can I unlock the boot loader using SE method? and after can I use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1201725 in order to have a rooted phone? I came from the X10 scene but just cant quite seem to be able to grasp XPLAY yet... Thanks...
I flashed my AT&T unit with the R800i 2.3.2 firmware, used Gingerbreak, then did the OTA update to 2.3.3. I lost the AT&T bloatware, but I'm rooted with a locked bootloader and can continue to get OTA updates.
Details here.
jdsemler said:
I flashed my AT&T unit with the R800i 2.3.2 firmware, used Gingerbreak, then did the OTA update to 2.3.3. I lost the AT&T bloatware, but I'm rooted with a locked bootloader and can continue to get OTA updates.
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+1 on this. Would recommend this method to unlocking your bootloader, only because of the OTA updates. Good luck! ^_^
COOL... The thing is that I dont really care about the OTA updates since someone always manages to dump it and I would just reflash it to my phone. jdsemler would I be able to unlock boot loader? Should I do it after or before the process rooting process? Thanks in advance again...
SO... BUMP...
You must pay to have your bootloader unlock due to it being carrier locked. Search the forum for members who unlock remotely over the net. All that is required is a paperclip and some software that give you. After unlocking, you gain root access by flashing custom roms with root status unlocked (check rom before flashing though just in case there's no root). But remember not to update at all cause you'll brick it.
Sent from my rooted R800a 2.3.3 BL locked
Just got another email from Motorola to sign up for a preview of a new software release. Probably fixes issues that were discovered after the KK upgrade.
CAUTION FOR THOSE WITH LOCKED DEVICES: Considering you just got a new root method, I would steer clear from this if you want to keep root. I have a feeling Towelroot will not work after this since it only works for kernels dated before June 3, 2014. Also, this might break the current tethering hack as well for 4.4.2.
It would be nice if this were a 4.4.3 update, but I don't know at this time. Since I'm unlocked, I'm going to go ahead and sign up for it and see what happens.
Just wanted to get the word out to anyone with locked bootloaders to probably stay away from this unless you don't care about root and the tethering hack.
The bad news about this means the "can I unroot my KitKat phone" won't go away once the OTA comes out.
Pretty obvious that locked users should be careful with the new OTA, same as before, don't rush ahead of yourself and install every OTA that Moto pushes out. Also today is a great day, we've got a root and apparently locked users can unlock their bootloader while being on 183.46.10 update. So I'd rather recommend people to take root and unlock and do whatever the hell they want after that, considering rooting and unlocking is as simple as just installing and running 2 apks.
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Pretty obvious that locked users should be careful with the new OTA, same as before, don't rush ahead of yourself and install every OTA that Moto pushes out. Also today is a great day, we've got a root and apparently locked users can unlock their bootloader while being on 183.46.10 update. So I'd rather recommend people to take root and unlock and do whatever the hell they want after that, considering rooting and unlocking is as simple as just installing and running 2 apks.
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What? Locked users can unlock the bootloader? How? I didn't see that. Motopocolypse, from what I understand, doesn't work with anything after 9.16 OTA. I got lucky and was able to unlock mine about a year ago (didn't have 9.18 OTA applied from the factory). Still, if people can unlock their bootloaders with the KK, that's great, but again, I have not heard nor seen anything that states this. I only knew about Towelroot and that's it.
As for it being obvious, didn't matter after this past KK upgrade. People did it anyways and we got an unflux of "how do I root this sucker?" over and over again.
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What? Locked users can unlock the bootloader? How? I didn't see that. Motopocolypse, from what I understand, doesn't work with anything after 9.16 OTA. I got lucky and was able to unlock mine about a year ago (didn't have 9.18 OTA applied from the factory). Still, if people can unlock their bootloaders with the KK, that's great, but again, I have not heard nor seen anything that states this. I only knew about Towelroot and that's it.
As for it being obvious, didn't matter after this past KK upgrade. People did it anyways and we got an unflux of "how do I root this sucker?" over and over again.
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I guess I'll be late and you've found that after upgrading to KK and rooting it, you can unlock bootloader with Motopocalypse ^^. Also idk why wouldn't anyone want to unlock BL, considering the phone is on its end of life cycle and won't get anymore android updates (e.g 4.5+) it seems rather wise to unlock and have all the goodies now and in the future.
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Also, this might break the current tethering hack as well for 4.4.2.
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I see you guys have been using the tether mod I posted for the ultra. no problem, I developed a new mod for 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 so if it does break tether and can make one for the HD.
I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
Droid Maxx "Developer Edition"
Topsnake said:
I see you guys have been using the tether mod I posted for the ultra. no problem, I developed a new mod for 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 so if it does break tether and can make one for the HD.
I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
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Awesome. Thanks a bunch for that. I'll definitely want to try it out once I the new OTA comes in. Since I have an unlocked bootloader, I'm not too frightened to do the OTAs, but to know that we can get another tether mod if it does indeed break with the next OTA, that's a relief.
tether seems broken..
Topsnake said:
I see you guys have been using the tether mod I posted for the ultra. no problem, I developed a new mod for 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 so if it does break tether and can make one for the HD.
Droid Maxx "Developer Edition"
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I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
Just to confirm, from what I can tell yes the tether hack seems to have broken, I am rooted, unlocked and all that good stuff so I can always flash back, but as a warning I tried to get it working again with no success.
Now I am not ruling out the possibility that I am a dope and screwed up the procedure somewhere, in which case I pray someone can confirm it works and maybe teach a fool to fish .
Thecat1080 said:
I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
Just to confirm, from what I can tell yes the tether hack seems to have broken, I am rooted, unlocked and all that good stuff so I can always flash back, but as a warning I tried to get it working again with no success.
Now I am not ruling out the possibility that I am a dope and screwed up the procedure somewhere, in which case I pray someone can confirm it works and maybe teach a fool to fish .
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Uh. the tethering hack still works. Go here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...d-native-tether-exploit-build-183-46-t2872547
Sorry for the confusing title, I'm coming from a Nexus 6 that was one of the easier phones to root and customize. So far I'm on month 3 with my V20 and haven't rooted it yet. If I do and receive a OTA I will obviously lose my root, but once I have an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery installed, can I just reflash SuperSU to reroot?
Thanks.
OTAs on this device overwrite the bootloader and recovery. you WILL lose root. and all methods to get it back.
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OTAs on this device overwrite the bootloader and recovery. you WILL lose root. and all methods to get it back.
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So then rooting is pointless right now?
Should have got the Pixel.
Thanks!
tjlmbklr said:
So then rooting is pointless right now?
Should have got the Pixel.
Thanks!
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Rooting isn't pointless. You still have access to all the exclusive root features you wouldn't normally have of course. Why would you want to take an OTA anyways unless you have some issue with your phone (just curious)? You could just wait for someone to post TWRP flashable updates for your variant of the V20 so that you can keep root access while still updating.
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Rooting isn't pointless. You still have access to all the exclusive root features you wouldn't normally have of course. Why would you want to take an OTA anyways unless you have some issue with your phone (just curious)? You could just wait for someone to post TWRP flashable updates for your variant of the V20 so that you can keep root access while still updating.
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I'm waiting on 7.1 and fear I will finally root and it will come along in a OTA and I will not be able to root again until someone comes up with a new form of root.
I could be way off though, like I said, noob question, I came from a Nexus 6 where root and flashing custom ROMs was a cake walk for a guy like me.
Sent from my VS995 using Tapatalk
all you need is someone who can provide updated stock roms like i do on the ls997 On the sprint model we have the latest OTA applied
Yeah but as you know development on the H990ds isn't exactly buzzing.
Neither are the other devices anymore
I guess. Surprises me as the V20 is a fantastic device.
But LG didn't make anything easy for you devs.