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The Best Tablet Display

I just found this article written by someone who knows his stuff.
http://gizmodo.com/5824807/the-best-tablet-displays-ipad-2-just-got-dethroned
I disagree with him though as I believe the transformer has a better and brighter screen than the Ipad 2.

I have both side by side and the iPad2 is clearly brighter at max, dimmer at min, and less reflective...

Any one else notice that this page has a caption next to the results: "Click to embiggen chart" ?
How can I take an article seriously if they use words that were made up on an episode of The Simpsons. I guess they would argue that their usage was perfectly cromulent.

The best one is the one that fits your eyes.

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aibo said:
The best one is the one that fits your eyes.
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Right, I almost never use max brightness.
Also Transformer has 1.3 times more the number of iPad 2 pixels.

This guy knows his stuff, so I'd not be inclined to argue with him. However, I'll say this: the screen on my TF is outstanding, regardless of whether or not some other screen is better. It's like cars: I love my Infiniti G37, even though there are demonstrably better-performing cars available. And indeed, one of the things that I love about the G37 is that I paid $15K less for it than the equivalent BMW, and have 95% of the performance. That's an equation that I can live with quite happily...
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ive seen other review of the screen(cant remember where) by a guy who knows alot about photography, he did all this measurement on the color and white balance on the k scale, and has said if your into professional photo applications the transformers screen is the best as it produces very accurate colors, also samsung had put a screen driver ontop of the tegra 2 one to over saturate colors to make the screen appear more vibrant but if your looking for image accuracy its a bad screen for that

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ive seen other review of the screen(cant remember where) by a guy who knows alot about photography, he did all this measurement on the color and white balance on the k scale, and has said if your into professional photo applications the transformers screen is the best as it produces very accurate colors, also samsung had put a screen driver ontop of the tegra 2 one to over saturate colors to make the screen appear more vibrant but if your looking for image accuracy its a bad screen for that
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I have done measurement of the transformer and iPad and find that both units have some inaccuracy, but are pretty close to the actual values when displaying a sample color panel. I would give a nod to Transformer for warmer (red and orange) colors and the iPad to colder (blues) colors. Both are miles more accurate than the Samsung which is dramatically over saturated.

My iPad's screen is too warm, and my TF's screen is too cool.
It's a bit frustrating.

krispy1 said:
ive seen other review of the screen(cant remember where) by a guy who knows alot about photography, he did all this measurement on the color and white balance on the k scale, and has said if your into professional photo applications the transformers screen is the best as it produces very accurate colors, also samsung had put a screen driver ontop of the tegra 2 one to over saturate colors to make the screen appear more vibrant but if your looking for image accuracy its a bad screen for that
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Yeah, the color accuracy is great on this screen. It almost makes it painful to go back to my laptop.

Never have thought the TF had the best screen, way too many issues with light leak to even be considered. It looks aight though.

darkonex said:
Never have thought the TF had the best screen, way too many issues with light leak to even be considered. It looks aight though.
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The Ipad is known for having light lead issues as well; it seems to be a "feature" of IPS panels. That does nothing, however, to detract from the fundamental quality of the screen when any light leakage isn't apparent (as in 100% of my own use, since I might have leakage but haven't even noticed it).
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Dorkington said:
My iPad's screen is too warm, and my TF's screen is too cool.
It's a bit frustrating.
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Tablets really need to have color profiles and brightness and contrast like you do on a Mac or PC. Then you could use a hardware calibrator to create a customize profile for the specific of your own display. I do this on all my laptops and desktop monitors and the results are very nice. The only downside is the calibrator hardware and software cost $250+.

i just had my screen replaced under warranty by asus for a white spot (backlight leak).
unless i'm imagining it, the new screen seems to be warmer and not quite so bright as the one it replaced
but it also has zero light bleed at the edges where the old one had quite a bit.
perhaps they're now using a different panel than when i first bought my b60 tf101 a year ago.
has anybody else noticed any variation in screen brightness/ colour between units?

theabsurdman said:
i just had my screen replaced under warranty by asus for a white spot (backlight leak).
unless i'm imagining it, the new screen seems to be warmer and not quite so bright as the one it replaced
but it also has zero light bleed at the edges where the old one had quite a bit.
perhaps they're now using a different panel than when i first bought my b60 tf101 a year ago.
has anybody else noticed any variation in screen brightness/ colour between units?
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Yeah Asus replaced mine too because it didn't wanna turn on. The new screen is magnificent no light bleed and yeah Asus Sammy and apple have the best screen
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I can't complaint as asus renewed my screen cause of back light leaking. Im told that apple always use too many pixels looking at there screen resolutions.
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The battery capacities these days! Amazing !!
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I have TF101 (mid level bleed issues, I can live with them given I rarely run full brightness, never need to), iPad 1,2,3, A500, Nook Color, and a few others. IMO, ALL of the IPS displays are great, and more than safisfying. I don't compare them because I don't see the point, they are all way more than "good enough" for my and my family's casual use. If you are using these for photography or similar "on the road" and color accuracy is a concern, then you should probably get a Macbook or even better the new asus zen gen2 (which beats even the MAC displays for accuracy, check out Anand's review on the new Zen Ultrabook, drool ). My main point is, as long as your display makes you happy, who cares if there is another one out there that is better . If you are researching for a purchase on the other hand, be realistic in what your uses are going to be and read reviews that cover those uses along with reliability and customer support quality, see if you can borrow one or check one out somewhere, and let your budget and your eyes be your guide, and you will be happy with what you get.

[Q] Note 3 Uneven Screen Color

I know there are a few different threads about various screen concerns, but this one is specific to color distribution. Sorry if this belongs elsewhere.
I attached a picture of the Note 3 screen without any screen protector while on the dark gray color from the LCD Pixel Testing app. Apologies that the uploaded picture isn't rotated properly. The bottom-right has a purplish/pink tint to it and the top-left has a greenish tint. It's not the camera angle/picture because I took another picture of it from the same angle, but upside down and the coloring moved accordingly.
I also took a picture of the Note 2 under the same conditions to make sure that this isn't normal for other screens, and the Note 2's screen was much more consistent. I've experienced uneven color distribution on the Samsung UN46B8000 TV, but not on a mobile device.
Does anyone else have this type of uneven screen color on the Note 3?
Thank you!

Im not sure why is this happening. Im now on my third replacement and every one has this hue or tint in different parts of the screen. Im not sure if its fixable but I gave up on samsung. I just hope it goes away after some time.

Scorbion said:
Im not sure why is this happening. Im now on my third replacement and every one has this hue or tint in different parts of the screen. Im not sure if its fixable but I gave up on samsung. I just hope it goes away after some time.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm going to check out display models and see how the uniformity is. If they are worse than mine, I'll keep mine. Still, I think that Samsung should really work on this. I've compared it to the Note 2 and S3. All have better uniformity than the Note 3, which saddens me as I was really looking forward to this device.

thedeadletters said:
Thanks for the reply. I'm going to check out display models and see how the uniformity is. If they are worse than mine, I'll keep mine. Still, I think that Samsung should really work on this. I've compared it to the Note 2 and S3. All have better uniformity than the Note 3, which saddens me as I was really looking forward to this device.
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EXACTLY.
The exact same problem with mine, which I described here in my thread.
I've seen worst when I tried to get my second replacement, so I decided to keep mine.
SAMMY whats wrong with your QC????

amircesc4 said:
EXACTLY.
The exact same problem with mine, which I described here in my thread.
I've seen worst when I tried to get my second replacement, so I decided to keep mine.
SAMMY whats wrong with your QC????
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I spoke to one of the tech guys at my work and he said it could be a power issue. The power source could be coming from the upper-left corner and it gets weaker as it goes across the screen, which could explain the gradient-like change in the display. If the pink is at the bottom-right for all our displays, it could be the explanation.
We looked online for a proper teardown, but we couldn't find one that showed where the screen power originates from. I don't know about this because I'm not sure if full/more power would result in a greenish-blue hue. The only evidence I can think of that supports this is that the Note 2 and S3 were overly greenish-blue in tint over the entire screen.
Does everyone affected have greenish-blue on the top-left that fades into pink on the bottom-right?

just tested mine with the app i got no tint or diffrent hue .. I've tested it on AUTO, Manual low, high brightness settings..

I have these problems since I own AMOLED devices, and that is now for quite some time (see sig.)! Me too had to exchange each device a few times until I got some with a almost perfect screen! On both N9005 I own so far the lower screen side is darker, although there are other significant differences between the two screens: the one of the second device is much more uniform! plus no1 has sharp pitch up in gamma on the leftmost 5mm over the whole side (maybe this screen has been cut out from the edge of the mother-substrate: the more from the center the better, due to principles of metal mask lithography)
I've done a few posts in regard to this in the past, if interested use the search function!
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Another problem I have: When CUP is on medium to heavy load, screen brightness and contrast start to go up and down slightly each few seconds on all brightness levels, even on manual and lowest brightness! this happens on both devices, although here the first one is a little more stable! for me this happens always when in gallery for example, due to CPU load because of media scanning... Seems to be some load or thermal brightness throttling mechanism implemented (guess: in some part of the kernel)...
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mine doesn't have a hue but on really dark colors (like the dark tapatalk theme) the screen color is uneven on the background.

dk_iceman said:
just tested mine with the app i got no tint or diffrent hue .. I've tested it on AUTO, Manual low, high brightness settings..
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I'm happy for you. For me, I gave up and bought LG g2 and I'm so glad I did. I just love this ips screen.

I'm wondering if it's there is edge LED lighting and the screen is just uneven.

My first one was like yours which seems very bad. Took it back got a new one, this one has the issue too, but its not that visible. I wanted to take it back again, but then i saw a guy who took 3 Note 3s back and the last one was the worst. So change it until you find one acceptable and next time wait a bit until Samsung gets better QC, or hope for another player on the phablet market.

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I'm wondering if it's there is edge LED lighting and the screen is just uneven.
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???edge led on an amoled device???
do you know what you are talking about??

amoled is common in that type of tint.. I used all galaxy. Since first galaxy I used.. And now still smiled tech have this tint..
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It's probably not as bad as I make it sound. You can only see it if there isn't any light in the room basically. I took a screen shot of the battery status menu and cropped it to the all "black" part and put a black dot on it. In a totally dark room (doesn't mater what the screen brightness is) see if you can find the dot. It's pretty small you have to zoom in a lot. But using this image I can see the uneven lighting on the screen. If there us ant kind of color displayed though it's totally invisible.
I'm kind of worried about getting one that's worse too. that's what's got me not wanting to deal with it. A lot of them down here have been getting returned to best buy and Verizon because of a signal issue or battery drainage problems.
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???edge led on an amoled device???
do you know what you are talking about??
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Nope. Obviously. ?

So I returned the first one and got another. This one is better but there's a big dark band that goes across the middle. It's not as pronounced as the last one though. -__-
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Try this in a dark room. Using Display Tester app test card Grey #808080 and put the brightness in the screen tester to as low as possible as well as your phones brightness to low as feasibly possible. The check out the lower half near the home button. You will see it being slightly different and darker. Both mine and the wife's do it. Her's possibly a little bit more pronounced than mine. Normal, as I never notice it during day to day or night time viewing. Point being I have to go out of my way to find this so called issue.

Limeybastard said:
Try this in a dark room. Using Display Tester app test card Grey #808080 and put the brightness in the screen tester to as low as possible as well as your phones brightness to low as feasibly possible. The check out the lower half near the home button. You will see it being slightly different and darker. Both mine and the wife's do it. Her's possibly a little bit more pronounced than mine. Normal, as I never notice it during day to day or night time viewing. Point being I have to go out of my way to find this so called issue.
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I can see that horizontal dark band on my screen. But I can really see that and vertical bands on the 2 I posted. lol.
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LordBhaal said:
My first one was like yours which seems very bad. Took it back got a new one, this one has the issue too, but its not that visible. I wanted to take it back again, but then i saw a guy who took 3 Note 3s back and the last one was the worst. So change it until you find one acceptable and next time wait a bit until Samsung gets better QC, or hope for another player on the phablet market.
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i had same issue i replaced 3 note 3s then in white color there is no tint no screen issue..n checked 6 phones on shop..u r lucky if u get 1 phone with gud screen among ten phones..9 will be faulty and one will be gud....but my shop keeper is a nice guy..but really samsung should fix this issue.
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people will complain about hardware issue after some time..when they will compare note 3 together..
coz i have too much experienced in note 3 replacement.
i had three note 3s n900 and n9005.And checked 6 note 3s...so trust me..some device perform gud some laggy..

nabilsweet007 said:
i had same issue i replaced 3 note 3s then in white color there is no tint no screen issue..n checked 6 phones on shop..u r lucky if u get 1 phone with gud screen among ten phones..9 will be faulty and one will be gud....but my shop keeper is a nice guy..but really samsung should fix this issue.
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people will complain about hardware issue after some time..when they will compare note 3 together..
coz i have too much experienced in note 3 replacement.
i had three note 3s n900 and n9005.And checked 6 note 3s...so trust me..some device perform gud some laggy..
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can confirm this! and it was the same on note1, note2, ... on basically all amoled devices i owned from samsung so far!
the "problem" is the manufacturing process of the amoled screens:
they were cut out of a wafer. in the process of exposing the wafer with a light source through a FMM (fine metal mask) the exposure is not evenly distributed over the whole wafer. the more from the middle your screen has been cut out, the better it is! the gradients (down side darker, right side darker, ...) are due to the gradient light exposure of the wafer before cutting!
so it's all luck of the draw: atm i have one (!) decent screen out of 5 devices! the bad thing is: on this device the thermal throttling is comparable worse then on two of the other devices i have, but on these the display is very uneven!
so it seems to be a hard task to get a device where a) the screen is perfect and b) there are none of the other known problems (wobbly button, thermal throttling, noisy camera, ...) present!
thank you samsung!

Xperia Z2 vs Z1 screen comparison

Xperia Z2 vs Z1 Screen comparison
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We all know Z1 suffers from viewing angle is kind of pointless to compare its screen with Z2 when its is tilted
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I know the panel type of Z1 is brighter than everything else, I think that picture kind fo shows.

I've seen some other comparison photos... Straight on, they look almost identical. It's only when the Z1 becomes tilted you can then tell it's a... Z1. I know overall the Z2 screen is better, but didn't seem like a huge difference to me.

Some more pic with Z1 Compact:
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well it's known that Z1 sucks at large angles, but look at the only two pictures when all three phones are viewed from zero angle, the Z1 has the best details and colors

The screen of the Z1 is fantastic, everyone knows of the Z1's crap viewing angles, that's why Sony fixed them on the Z2 obviously
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I don't know why the angles of the TFT are so important for somebody?

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I don't know why the angles of the TFT are so important for somebody?
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another item in the "features list" like 2k resolution screen! nevermind the fact that you can't possible notice without a microscope the difference of it from FHD or even 720p screens...

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Looks like Z2 screen is really awesome! Thank you, Sony!

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I don't know why the angles of the TFT are so important for somebody?
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Well, they matter, especially in some scenarios. Scenario 1: I'm sitting at my desktop with the phone in front, something comes up and I want to check it out without lifting the phone up. With the Z1, that's a problem, since things appear washed out, making it hard to make out some things sometimes. Scenario 2: when I'm in bed and have to do the same as above, that is looking at a notification or something without lifting the phone up. Scenario 3: you're trying to watch a video with someone on the same device, and at least one guy can have problems viewing it from the side. These aren't everyday scenarios, but they are present.
I totally understand that some people don't have a problem with viewing angles, but some of us do, and it's not just hipster-y excuses. My main issue is that Sony has been dawdling while viewing angles have been perfected by all other manufacturers since 2011/2012 (except LG on Nexus phones, they do need to work on it a tad more). Good to see the Z2 finally fixes that, and I hope it continues on future flagships as well. Also hope the glass on the back goes away and/or becomes less slippery, that's a huge issue with Sony's current phones, I'm too afraid to use my Z1 without a case, haha.

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Well, they matter, especially in some scenarios. Scenario 1: I'm sitting at my desktop with the phone in front, something comes up and I want to check it out without lifting the phone up. With the Z1, that's a problem, since things appear washed out, making it hard to make out some things sometimes. Scenario 2: when I'm in bed and have to do the same as above, that is looking at a notification or something without lifting the phone up. Scenario 3: you're trying to watch a video with someone on the same device, and at least one guy can have problems viewing it from the side. These aren't everyday scenarios, but they are present.
I totally understand that some people don't have a problem with viewing angles, but some of us do, and it's not just hipster-y excuses. My main issue is that Sony has been dawdling while viewing angles have been perfected by all other manufacturers since 2011/2012 (except LG on Nexus phones, they do need to work on it a tad more). Good to see the Z2 finally fixes that, and I hope it continues on future flagships as well. Also hope the glass on the back goes away and/or becomes less slippery, that's a huge issue with Sony's current phones, I'm too afraid to use my Z1 without a case, haha.
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well those were the bad points of the XZ, i agree with your scenarios, but it's excatly those points which i feel are just fine with the z1.
i wated a dozen movies on my z1 with my GF and niether of us noticed any washing, it just looks splendid, and while on the table it does seem a bit washed out, but not in a waythat makes it difficult to read the screen...
on the old XZ it was a problem... but with Z1 it's good enough. and splendid when you look at it from the front...

Ok then! Z1 is positive for me because if somebody is next to me he can't see or read what I am doing or writing, specially if I sending messages to his girlfriend!..hahaha...

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Ok then! Z1 is positive for me because if somebody is next to me he can't see or read what I am doing or writing, specially if I sending messages to his girlfriend!..hahaha...
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Actually, the poor viewing angles do come in handy in that way sometimes, but it's not something I generally need, haha.
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well those were the bad points of the XZ, i agree with your scenarios, but it's excatly those points which i feel are just fine with the z1.
i wated a dozen movies on my z1 with my GF and niether of us noticed any washing, it just looks splendid, and while on the table it does seem a bit washed out, but not in a waythat makes it difficult to read the screen...
on the old XZ it was a problem... but with Z1 it's good enough. and splendid when you look at it from the front...
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The thing with me is that I've used phones with great displays recently, so with the Z1 I only notice the bad sides, hehe. It does look good when looked at from the front, but again, it doesn't impress me after using those other phones.

I actually see the viewing angles as a plus. Means friends can't see as easily what I'm doing on my phone if they're trying to peak.
No downside to it eithe really, not like I hold my phone in a tilting position.

My viewing angles arent great either but people can still read what im doing from most angles so no privacy there
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Was I the only one to think the Z1 actually looks better than both the Compact and the Z2?

Im more than satisfied with the screen on the 1. Personally i see no reason at all to upgrade to 2. 100 more Mhz, bigger screen which is better for a media center phone and 1gb more POINTLESS ram, whats so good to justify buying a new phone?
Should the Z2 came with things like smart camera usage or touch pressure sensitivity or be able to read finger while hovering -but not- touching the screen, id call that a big syep forward for Sony. Atm it offers features that feel 10 years old compared to Samsung's technologie.

Honestly, my curiosity is that, Z2 adopted better screen like IPS with better views angles. It has bigger battery, 3200 instead of 3000, and 2.3 ghz instead 2.2, so let's use some down cloccking App to put 2.3ghz to 2.2, at the end it will be perfectly the same as Z1, BUT, with latest Screen on Z2 it will consume less energy than Z1? So if I get 5 hours on Screen with Z1 how long I will get on Z2? 5,2 inces don't make such a difference anyway...so any Idea?

We need to wait for proper testing to see if the small increase in battery actually improves battery life, keeps it about the same (given the faster CPU/GPU, bigger screen etc), or actually makes it slightly worse.
Personally I don't think there's going to be much difference.

How is THAT screen?

I created this thread specifically for all the members to talk about the new 2k screen of the LG G3. The screen is the most important feature of the LG G3 and it is what LG brags about the most. For many of us including me, the screen will be the deciding factor of whether we buy the phone or not.How does the new 2k display panel perform in real life situations compared to other high end phone display panels like the Galaxy S5 or HTC One M8? Let's have a nice dedicated thread to the most important feature on this phone.
Ideas to talk about:
•Contrast levels
•How your content looks on it
•Your thoughts of it compared to the previous display you had.
•Any weird issues? (Screen interlacing, ghost issues)
•Color production
•Do you find it nice and worthwhile?
•How are those BLACK LEVELS (Important!)
•Any heat issues with the screen?
•Good high and low brightness levels?

All of the above... Thinking of upgrading from a nexus 5...
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I have seen a couple of reviews that say the max brightness is quite dim. Can someone who owns one confirm if this is true?
The G2 has the best display I have ever had and I don't want to downgrade to a duller screen (I am not bothered about the high res as the G2 has enough res. I want bright and vibrant!

Spewy1 said:
I have seen a couple of reviews that say the max brightness is quite dim. Can someone who owns one confirm if this is true?
The G2 has the best display I have ever had and I don't want to downgrade to a duller screen (I am not bothered about the high res as the G2 has enough res. I want bright and vibrant!
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Go to s5 ^^ it's too bright and too vibrant :laugh: (^^)

And ffs please, reviewers, don't simply declare that you can't distinguish individual pixels on 1080p as well as 2k and then conclude from that that the extra resolution doesn't make a difference. The question is: how do you subjectively experience visual items in 2k vs. 1080p--images, text, UI items, etc.. Past 325 dpi, a pixel is not an item, so it's irrelevant that you can't see one. Tons of those online reviews provide what the reviewer thinks their impression of the screen must be instead of the reviewer providing their true impression.

Canard caché said:
Go to s5 ^^ it's too bright and too vibrant :laugh: (^^)
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I don't like the s5. Various reasons but mainly the cover over the charging port and overall design.
I love my g2 but need more memory (64gb minimum). I am worried about the screen on the g3 but the reviewers all focus on the resolution but I want to hear from real users about the real world experience of the screen.
Many thanks in advance for any input from owners of the phone.

Great Arstechica review as usual
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/

That cover on the S5 (my wife has one), is for water proofing and easily ripped off.
Personally, I could use a screen with less pixels and longer screen-on time. I consider the screen resolution to be a minus. My preference is less pixels and make it a 6", like the HTC One Max I just returned after a week.

liqn7 said:
Great Arstechica review as usual
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/
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Can't agree with you there. They did the same move as all the other reviewers where they presume that the inability to distinguish individual pixels automatically means people can't see any overall difference in image quality:
Even at point-blank range, it's hard to resolve a single pixel. 1080p screens are also beautiful, though, and when looking at the two, side-by-side, we aren't convinced the jump to 1440p is necessary. More pixels only matter if you can see them, and on a ~5-inch device, it's almost impossible to tell the difference between a 1080p screen and the 1440p screen of the G3.
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That's why I asked above that any reviewers here avoid that particular groupthink and tell us how they actually experience 2k vs. 1080p.

Jimmy34742 said:
Can't agree with you there. They did the same move as all the other reviewers where they presume that the inability to distinguish individual pixels automatically means people can't see any overall difference in image quality:
That's why I asked above that any reviewers here avoid that particular groupthink and tell us how they actually experience 2k vs. 1080p.
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I think the most important caveat is that hardly any apps will be optimized for 2k display when the phone finally arrives.
HAving said that, kind of hard to judge don't you think?

Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that

hamad138 said:
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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How can you?

theraker007 said:
I think the most important caveat is that hardly any apps will be optimized for 2k display when the phone finally arrives.
HAving said that, kind of hard to judge don't you think?
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That's logical. But so is the idea that the human eye can't distinguish pixels at a density greater than 326dpi. So, yeah, it comes down to subjective judgment calls. In that case, I'm interested in the subjective point of view of people who actually have one of these devices and their actual experience. We already know how do deduce logically what everyone's experience must be, and all the reviews I've read only do that. Images and text may appear sharper at a given distance from the eye in a way unrelated to whether or not you can distinguish an individual pixel.

The LG G3 has the best smartphone display I've seen: It's sharp, but it's also bright and has great color. The colors don't pop quite as much as on some of the better SuperAMOLED screens I've seen (such as on the just-announced Samsung Galaxy Tab S), but the sharpness is off the charts.
Comparing the G3's display to the one on the HTC One M8 (my current favorite Android phone), I felt the LG's was just as sharp, and a few details — such as drop shadows in Evernote — stood out slightly more. And even though colors weren't as vivid as on the HTC, the G3 had more natural skin tones
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From Mashable's review. Everyone's eyes are different I guess.
Contrast was superb. Black text on white background — one of the most essential things a smartphone, or any display, needs to get right — really stood out. The ultra-sharp characters nearly jumped off the screen, and I couldn't discern individual pixels, no matter how close I put my eye to the screen.
So the LG G3's Quad HD display is more than just hype. But only a bit. There's nothing wrong with the HTC One M8's screen — or the Samsung Galaxy S5's or the iPhone 5S's for that matter. They're still mighty sharp, and can display great images, just not quite as sharply or as impressively as the LG G3.
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Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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I truly hope that the screen is great on this phone but I can't wait any longer and have just ordered an S5. I have waited for all the flagships to come out this year and was truly hoping that the G3 would be the one. Two of the most important things to me are brightness and battery life and I'm worried that with the G3 I would end up having the brightness cranked all the time and would have poor battery life as a result. Really wanted to try LG this time but lost my nerve
Tapped it!

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Seriously? Those are much more important then resolution to improve upon.

helikido said:
Seriously? Those are much more important then resolution to improve upon.
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yes but not for marketing.

I'm most concerned with the viewing angles, black levels, contrast, and color accuracy. I'm definitely getting the G3 but I really don't want to have to play the panel lottery. I'd prefer a warmer display over a cooler display - as long as it's not noticeably pink/green/blue, I'm fine. A slight yellow/orange tint is okay, but obviously a calibrated display would be the best. My black Nexus 5's viewing angles aren't great, with the screen washing out at 30+ degree angle. My buddy's white Nexus 5 seems to have better viewing angles, so I'm not sure what the deal is. I'm pretty confident in LG's ability to produce good displays -- they pretty much made this phone just to show off their new display.

Actually, I'm now concerned about the narrowness of the bezel. Yes, it's a cool feature, and everyone dreams of a bezel-less phone, but I already have problems due to the narrowness of my S4's bezel. When I'm holding my phone for an extended time, referring to notes while speaking to people, my grip often gets interpreted by the system as a touch and hold. That pops up a dialog that I have to dismiss, and it's really obtrusive in real time situations. Sure, I could be more careful, but it's just too easy to make that problem happen during normal usage. It's not like I have big fat hands or a weird grip or anything. I've already been thinking that when we finally get bezel-free phones, there will have to be utilities to create a non-reactive border of pixels in a user-specified width, or else the user will accidentally be popping things up all over the place. At present, though, I think the G3's large size and tiny bezel are actually going to make it difficult to use the way I want to use it even though it's hardly bigger than my S4. You never know until you actually use it for a few days and try to adapt, but there's no way to do that without buying it, which I'm now hesitant to do.

You're holding it wrong ☺
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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Google Pixel 4a, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Google Pixel 4a is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
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Not a bad little phone for the price. Too small for me though. I have a 3XL. I bought this for my girlfriend. It's faster than I thought it would be. Should be incredible on Android 11.
She's very apprehensive with the small size. She also has a 3XL with a very cracked screen. Not quite as fast as my 3XL but extremely smooth. I'm very impressed.
I'm on Android 11 Beta 3

Love the Punch hole. Very nice
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I'm trying not to play with it. Lol
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Excellent for one handed use . I want one. Yummy

Had anyone else found their actual reported battery capacity is not what Google claimed?
This is my only device not meeting claimed mAh (my system is reporting 3080)

matthewkuhl said:
Had anyone else found their actual reported battery capacity is not what Google claimed?
This is my only device not meeting claimed mAh (my system is reporting 3080)
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mine also says 3080

gmanhatesu said:
mine also says 3080
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Thank you
i emailed Google support about it and they just recited the spec capacity and spewed some advertising nonsense about that being a "big deal" number and to reach out again if i had any other questions. i reiterated that i wasn't getting that number from my system reporting and they have not replied.
Please, bring it up to Google support because this might be a widespread problem.

Mine says 3080 as well.... I don't think it is a big deal.

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Kwanger said:
Mine says 3080 as well.... I don't think it is a big deal.
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It's not a big deal...even if accurate. 2-3% difference. M'eh.

Yeah, the standing 3080 reported by accu battery seems to be inaccurate anyway. Now I've got a few charges on it the estimated battery capacity is higher 3300 or so........which in itself will be inaccurate as I believe the actual battery is probably as advertised. It's all semantics anyway..... What I do know is that battery life is way better than my outgoing 18 month old essential phone.
Now having used the 4a for a few days, it is solidifying my initial impressions of what a great phone for the money it is. Upgrade from my essential in every way, feels smoother, signal strength is better, it connects to my inbuilt android auto without a hitch. For me the size and weight of it is perfect..... going to be a keeper for sure.

This reminds me a lot of the Nexus 5 but without the flaws.
I really love this phone. The screen feels a lot larger than it is. Oled at this price is very nice. Decent stereo speakers. The snapdragon 730 is decent paired with 6 GB ram. Battery life is excellent considering the battery capacity.
The polycarbonate plastic body feels super solid and is light. The fingerprint scanner on the back is refreshing to use solving a problem that never needed to be solved with terrible in display fingerprint readers.
The camera is great.
3.5mm headphone jack.
This is the best Pixel I have used. My only complaint is I can't watch Netflix in fullscreen.

Here's my thoughts coming from Pixel 3a:
Screen is noticeably brighter outdoors.
Edge to edge is really nice, but the chins on the 3a give you somewhere to hold, whereas the 4a it's all screen and left holding it by edges a lot.
Fingerprint sensor got a huge upgrade, now works with completely wet finger, where the 3a had issues with slightly sweaty or wet finger, far less failed login attempts.
The edge to edge screen doesn't always fill the screen, like XFINITY Stream TV. Some apps will fill the right side of the screen, but the left side of the screen will be a square edge instead of filling to edge. This is probably my biggest gripe. Some apps do edge to edge fill properly, like YouTube, just wish all apps did this.
The screen is slightly warm in color, it has a tiny yellow tint to it, where the 3a is more neutral
The camera is very similar in color profile, has a slight warm tone, where the 3a feels more neutral
Great phone ruined by yellow glow over everything:
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/ienzi6/yellow_tint_on_pixel_4a_screen/
Not sure if because of cheap OLED, or bad calibration.

For the money it is the best phone out there and I do like it. Here are my complaints coming from an Xperia XZ1.
-My Xperia phones were always bulletproof. I only used glass protectors and never had a case. The Pixel 4a is not as strong. Already took a chunk out of the plastic but it's a budget phone. Still with no wireless charging give us an aluminum back.
-Screen is great for the money. The colors aren't perfect but it looks good and the refresh rate seems nice.
-I am a fan of a side sensor but the rear one is pretty responsive so I don't complain too much.
-I HATE THE BOTTOM SPEAKER HOLES! I hold my phone with my pinky under the bottom and it digs into my skin. I will get used to it but it's annoying. Make the holes not so sharp or do something else. I have never been a fan of bottom mounted speakers.
-The camera is amazing for the money. Exceptional value.
-The software has been great and the new android update has made it even smoother.
Overall it is the phone that the Exceptional phone should have been. I had one of those and wanted to love it but the display was garbage. I can get over the stuff I hate on this phone because of the price.

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Still with no wireless charging give us an aluminum back.
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My preference leans toward textured plastic. Arguably lighter, less likely to dent, not a finger print magnet, potentially easier to hold with finger tips. So done with fragile glass and metal sandwiches. It's a phone not a fashion statement .
I suppose this (if true) would be the counter argument: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-4a/help/cover-4a-discoloration-problems-t4163637/post83511081

DB126 said:
My preference leans toward textured plastic. Arguably lighter, less likely to dent, not a finger print magnet, potentially easier to hold with finger tips. So done with fragile glass and metal sandwiches. It's a phone not a fashion statement .
I suppose this (if true) would be the counter argument: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-4a/help/cover-4a-discoloration-problems-t4163637/post83511081
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I am so over glass backs too but my XZ1 has the best metal back. Its textured so easy to hold and has never dented. Sure it is scratched as hell but I never babied it. Plastic would never hold up to that amount of damage. That is my only concern but I also paid a lot more for the XZ1 as well.

i received my Pixel 4a yesterday. Android 11 was waiting for me in KSA. Overall best device in back camera, display, touch response and off course software. Front camera is normal. Not good in games but can be bearable. Battery SOT is 8 to 9 hours. Upgraded from P40 pro. Wishes it should have better chipset atleast.

Pretty happy with the phone overall. Size is perfect and battery life is still good enough for me. I had a OnePlus 6t before this so most say it's a downgrade and in some ways it is but for the camera improvement and still having all day battery life and to actually get updates is a big plus over a big screen and battery and I don't we even more the difference in chipsets . It's a solid A to me hopefully they make more like this.

I owned flagship devices, top of the line processor, etc....
I was an idiot.
The Pixel 4a does everything I need to do and I save maybe $800 dollars.
Sure run a bench mark and the device will be very far behind the latest Samsung device but in real life the games I played and apps I ran all run fine.
The camera is the best !!! One thing Pixel does well is camera software processing.
I take photos with various devices and the colour of the Google shots is more natural, most camera add a cooling effect which you do not see in real life. Astro photography love putting my camera on a tripod and seeing what I get.
What do I lose wireless charging ? Not a big deal if it means I save $800
Water resistance, never been an issue
Miss a wide screen camera but for what I save just the normal camera is fine.
5G battery hog, not available everywhere "will want it next time"
Found out the phone's software automatically blocks Robo calls !!!! Wow I love you goggle.
Getting fast updates, and no bloat rounds of the reasons this device is for me.

AstroDigital said:
I owned flagship devices, top of the line processor, etc....
I was an idiot.
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Not necessarily. Until recently (let's call it the last 2 years) mid-range phones were a distinct step down from flagships. I had a hunch the curve would flip when the iPhone X and similar Samsungs came out which attempted to push the acceptable price point into the 4-digit range (USD). Ridiculous for a hand held gizmo that gets replaced every 2-3 years. Not to mention the giant form factor which didn't work for everyone. Be interesting to see where we are two years from now. Flagships will still exist but may not be the must-haves they once were.

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This is what shows in my device