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So i got the OTA update (i actually wiped my phone to start clean).. and the phone runs snappy, except for the home screen... scrolling through them is pretty laggy..
best described its like having 2.2 with a live background. just not smooth at all.
my atrix with 2.2 ran ALOT smoother on the homescreen (and yes this bothers me)... apps are fast etc, but its just choppy.
has anyone noticed this? i installed launcher pro to use for now and its smooth as butter..
me too felt the same .. had to install launcher pro in order for a smoother experience. Overall, i felt the screen seemed to be less responsive .. except for Gingerbread goodies .. i completely disliked this update. Battery issues, homescreen scrolling slow, touchscreen less responsive ..
it definitely is slower
and i miss the little buttons at the bottom for jumping to a screen
@viper: it is only changed. You can "swap Home" swiping from bottom (over fixed icons area) upwards the middle of the screen. In this way you can choose quickly what "home" to reach.
first post for me actually used to search thing found this thread, but besides alot of the awesome new features the lag on the home screen has really be bothering me
Even alot of my apps that were fine in froyo are now lagging, i haven't rooted, unlocked the bootloader or anything, i was personally waiting for this update to come out before i started to mess with any of that stuff, but for me everything besides opera mobile is noticably laggy. But for some reason opera is alot smoother
Slower?
My stock gingerbread runs so much better than Froyo. Infact even the Live Wallpapers have no effect on home screen scrolling. For the first time since I bought the phone I am not running any launcher as the new Blur runs just fine.
I did a factory reset soon after upgrading. May be you guys should try that.
opposite for me gingerbread much snappier.
launcher pro noticeably faster than ADW EX (which was what I used to use) so made the jump
wintermute000 said:
opposite for me gingerbread much snappier.
launcher pro noticeably faster than ADW EX (which was what I used to use) so made the jump
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tried that
seems to have had the opposite effect lol
noticeably slower now
for giggles i ran smartbench again and i'm now only getting around 2500 for productivity
1000 worse than before
My phone (completely stock) also lags since the upgrade. Home screen lags and some apps lag. Battery life is worse. The task bar looks horrible and many of the symbols hard to recognize. Froyo, with the exception of the unlock lag, was faster and smoother on my phone. I regret upgrading now but, unfortunately, I did not make a contingency plan for downgrading.
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My stock gingerbread runs so much better than Froyo. Infact even the Live Wallpapers have no effect on home screen scrolling. For the first time since I bought the phone I am not running any launcher as the new Blur runs just fine.
I did a factory reset soon after upgrading. May be you guys should try that.
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Yeah i may try a factory reset... just not sure how much it will help me though because i reset my device before i upgraded.
On another note, i actually rather like launcher pro... i might just keep it.
Nice explanation from google regarding hardware acceleration, a must read one
http://blog.gsmarena.com/googles-dianne-hackborn-talks-about-hardware-acceleration-in-android-says-it-had-it-in-it-all-along/
Original post
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
Very interesting indeed.
What do you guys notice with enabled hw acceleration (build.prop tweak and set in most custom ROMs)? Do you think it is always smoother? Do you even feel a difference?
great find.. ICS is starting to infect my urge to upgrade
but it says that hw acceleration wont be available for nexus s and below..
so on default hw accel. is only enabled on dual-core phones?
Gorjess said:
great find.. ICS is starting to infect my urge to upgrade
but it says that hw acceleration wont be available for nexus s and below..
so on default hw accel. is only enabled on dual-core phones?
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It seems to be like that, also the GPU should be strong enough to handle it,else only cpu rendering
The article is enlightening, but comes across as an excuse for laggy interfaces on Android when one considers IOS manages much smoother transitions with apparently lower spec hardware.
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The article is enlightening, but comes across as an excuse for laggy interfaces on Android when one considers IOS manages much smoother transitions with apparently lower spec hardware.
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Well.. that is so true. And probably one of the reasons iOS still rulz
A quick visual overview between and android device vs and iDevice.. would have the android device cry
This is one of the reasons I am really eager to have ICS on my sgs2!
I want to see some smoothness
I saw on Beyond3D linked Andrew Munn's thoughts to Dianne Hackborn's post
https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS
Its a bit of a downer and still a long ways to go.
At last. All this hw acceleration 'hacks', enablers, tweaks, bull****...
it really got on my nerve.
Can't say i've ever had a problem with smoothness on SGS2 with touchwiz. Seems it must be hardware accelerated. That's why the phone can do any live wallpaper I throw at it and won't slow down, lag or skip. Stock.
Throw on a home screen replacement like Launcher Pro, ADW or Go Launcher and live wallpapers are useless mind.
I-phones are nice and smooth, but that's because the whole screen is filled with lovely la la baby icons, you can't see the wallpaper, it has nothing running in the background, no widgets, the operating system stays the same with every iteration bar some crap additions like notification centres and Siri, and has no live wallpaper.
I know which phone I would choose.
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Can't say i've ever had a problem with smoothness on SGS2 with touchwiz. Seems it must be hardware accelerated. That's why the phone can do any live wallpaper I throw at it and won't slow down, lag or skip. Stock.
Throw on a home screen replacement like Launcher Pro, ADW or Go Launcher and live wallpapers are useless mind.
I-phones are nice and smooth, but that's because the whole screen is filled with lovely la la baby icons, you can't see the wallpaper, it has nothing running in the background, no widgets, the operating system stays the same with every iteration bar some crap additions like notification centres and Siri, and has no live wallpaper.
I know which phone I would choose.
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And that's my friend why I now love samsung and my GS2 so much
It is the only android that makes android really proud
i would love to know you are getting TW to run smooth without lagging, because mine lags like hell on fresh stock rom. especially when the wallpaper scrolls with the homescreen. TW just never worked for me.
I'm running cyanogen and never seen any lag, even with very heavy customization.
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As said, twlauncher is really butter smooth even with a live wallpaper, the only problem with twlaucher is resizing and multi dpi. Twlauncher wont use fullscreen when using 200 or 180 dpi.
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i would love to know you are getting TW to run smooth without lagging, because mine lags like hell on fresh stock rom. especially when the wallpaper scrolls with the homescreen. TW just never worked for me.
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Then you must have a faulty phone? Touchwiz has been buttery smooth on every single TW rom I have tried.
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Android can never be as smooth as iphone?
Android will be laggy even with HW acceleration, the reason is
http://www.tipb.com/2011/12/06/android-ui-smooth-ios/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/n1e89/follow_up_to_android_graphics_true_facts_or_the/
But i am very much happy with my SGS2.
hariprs said:
Android will be laggy even with HW acceleration, the reason is
http://www.tipb.com/2011/12/06/android-ui-smooth-ios/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/n1e89/follow_up_to_android_graphics_true_facts_or_the/
But i am very much happy with my SGS2.
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""UI rendering occurs on the main thread of an app
UI rendering has normal priority"""
As long as the task is running in cpu we can talk about threading and setting thread priority, but once the task switches to GPU(as in ICS) there will be no need for thread priority and where the rendering of UI takes place.
So if any apps makes use of hw feature in ICS, they should be smooth enough to run at 60fps for rendering.
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Then you must have a faulty phone? Touchwiz has been buttery smooth on every single TW rom I have tried.
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Not sure about that.other launchers are very smooth.phone runs everything fine.what fault coupd there be thats making tw not as smooth as most describe it to be.
Agree with the posts that say TWLauncher is the smoothest on the SGS2, I've tried most of them. Live wallpapers have little effect on that smoothness, and that can't be said for other launchers.
Overall, the SGS2 is as smooth as the iPhone 4 I had.
However, I did play with a WP7 Lumia 800 the other day, and it is definitely the smoothest UI I ever used.
The ip4s is pretty smooth too... but I'd trade a tiny bit of smoothness for the sheer possibilities with Android.... but I have to say I was really quite impressed with WP7.
Was using my mobile clocked down to 500 mhz.. as a downside my go launcher started to lag like anything, switched to stock TW, to my total disbelief, the stock launcher is insanely smooth even when downclocked to 500 mhz. Stock launcher is purely hardware accelerated for sure.
I use hyperdroid which uses a build.prop tweak to enable hardware acceleration. Now even if i place go launcher's apk in system/app folder, still i cant see it running as smoothly as touchwiz. So is that tweak really working with other launchers. I deleted original touchwiz and rebooted but still go launcher lags a lot as comapared to tw. Anyone knows what exactly that tweak does?
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Hi! I installed today Nova Launcher on my nexus 4. What I immediatly noticed is that is smoother than the default launcher... and I was wondering why? I came from an iphone to android and there , if you put a third party theme or a third party anything it's 10 times laggier than the default...
I will kinda like to keep my default launcher cuz I am a little bit of a keep stock everything...
The diferences that I saw is that in my widgets drawer in nova the animation doesn't lag but the images of the widgets appear later... now in default launcher the animation between pages is laggy , sometimes extremely laggy and also the images appear later.
Can someone tell me if I can fix the default launcher to not be laggy?
PS Sometimes in the drawer there is lag when i do the first swipe to go to the next page and then is ok , but the first swipe is laggy
PS2: I already did the trick with disable backround currents sync
nova is pretty much stock, i mean, looks like stock, feels like stock, just with more options to customize, it is best launcher in my opinion. i don't think you can do much to improve your navigating performance, if you already disabled background sync. also, nexus 4 shouldn't be laggy at all, it's one of the fastest phones out there. although, my nexus (with or without nova launcher) sometimes lags in widgets area but i think it's perfectly normal, nothing wrong with that (you should see galaxy s3's performance in widget area, u will feel much better )
Hard reset. I have absolutely no lag when swiping thru the drawer pages.
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nova is pretty much stock, i mean, looks like stock, feels like stock, just with more options to customize, it is best launcher in my opinion. i don't think you can do much to improve your navigating performance, if you already disabled background sync. also, nexus 4 shouldn't be laggy at all, it's one of the fastest phones out there. although, my nexus (with or without nova launcher) sometimes lags in widgets area but i think it's perfectly normal, nothing wrong with that (you should see galaxy s3's performance in widget area, u will feel much better )
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besides currents , are there any other backround sync to kill? the one that I have running and I need is the contacts and instant upload
Nova launcher has different speed settings for animations and scrolling. IIRC, nova by default has the speed set to "nova speed" which makes everything feel faster. That may be why it feels like it lags less. For what it's worth, I only use nova launcher on my android devices. All the look and feel of stock with a lot of nice options. Kind of how CM 10 is to stock android.
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So , I returned! I hard reseted my nexus 4 and with no luck! Even now , when I do my first swipe when I enter the drawer it is 90% of times laggy and when I get to widgets is the same , sometimes laggy sometimes not
I mean I am a little bit dissapointed , I mean I come from an iphone 4 which has a 1ghz processor , single core and now i have a quad core processor , and I would have expected that the experience is 10 times smoother than on the iphone but I have more lag than I ever had on the iphone. I am not saying android isn't awesome cuz it is but I hate that first laggy scroll and the widgets drawer lag so much that it makes me cranky
I recently bought a Tab Pro 10.1 and I was quite disappointed with the performance of it. For a device that -- on paper, at least -- was really powerful, I felt like the entire experience was very sluggish and clunky.
I wanted to share a couple of tweaks I made that helped boost performance dramatically.
1. Ditch the Samsung launcher. As cool as some of those tiled screens looked, it felt really slow and choppy to me. I gave Nova Launcher a try (I've also heard good things about Apex and Launcher Pro) and was extremely impressed with it. The tweaks that yielded the best performance gains were:
Scroll Speed - Faster Than Light
Animation Speed - Faster Than Light
App Animation - Slide*
* The stock animation on the Galaxy devices [the window that starts out minimized and then grows in size] is very choppy; let me add that the "Icecream Sandwich" option offers even better performance, but I thought it looked a little tacky.
Because the device is running such a huge resolution, these animations still look fine when set to such a fast speed. On my phone (Galaxy S4), I toned the settings down a little bit, because they were too fast. On a huge tablet though, they feel great to me.
2. Tweak the Scale Multipliers
In order to do this, I had to unlock Developer Options. Unlocking this mode can easily be done without rooting. Simply go into Settings -> General -> About Device and click on "Build Number" tab 7 times. This will unlock Developer Options (it'll show up as an entry in your left menu). After unlocking this, go into it and change the following settings:
Window Animation Scale - 0.5x
Transition Animation Scale - 0.5x
Animator Duration Scale - 0.5x*
This settings netted huge gains. The tablet felt so much more responsive for me, especially with regards to animations. In particular -- and perhaps this is a complete placebo effect -- I felt that scrolling (web pages, app lists, etc) was dramatically improved. Sluggish scrolling has always bothered the hell out of me with Android devices. This seemed to help a lot (again, it could just be a placebo, but I genuinely think it helped).
After making these two changes, it seriously feels like a brand new device (okay, well, I just bought this 2 days ago, it already is a brand new device). I went from being extremely disappointed in the performance to blown away by how snappy / responsive everything feels now. I know the 10.1's are sort of lacking with the ROMs we have available, but these tips will help a lot. Please note that all of this is sort of generic advice -- you can find most of this info available on other sites. However, I just wanted to share the changes I made that netted me the most dramatic performance improvements.
I'm guessing a lot of people are probably well-versed in suggestions like this, so hopefully I'm not preaching to the choir.
I hope this helps!
Thanks a lot. I am looking to buy one. but can't decide which one I should get, the 8.4 or 10.1
I don't like that samsung cpu alot. And I think the 8.4 come with snapdragon 800. but I like the size of 10.1. sigh....
Thanks for the info. You're right, just switching to Nova Launcher (and rebooting) made a difference in the RAM usage. Tried your settings, they're nice and snappy. Plus I must admit having the launcher bar at the bottom feels a lot more natural.
I did not believe it really fast .. I do not recognize tablet .. thank you
This worked wonderfully!
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thanks for all the info bud:good: I think the best option is to use the stock rooted de bloated rom! Something you can trust,,, i always use the stock rom on all the tablets, where is different on the mobile phone lol,
I am pissed off with all these stupid samsung apps and stuff i never use... keeps updating all the time, so bloody annoying, it's been a week and is so tempting to root it haha, cannot resist the temptation
Not sure if you're referring to the same tablet. The T520 that the I have is super fast and responsive!
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dknotty said:
Not sure if you're referring to the same tablet. The T520 that the I have is super fast and responsive!
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The tablet is not necessarily "slow" per se, but it feels slow and sluggish. For whatever reason, stock Android animations have always been terrible. Have you ever used an iOS device before? I prefer Android for about a billion reasons, but one thing iOS absolutely nails is their animations in their user interfaces. Everything on those devices feels as smooth as butter. One thing I've found is that that this is all a matter of perception; for some people, it doesn't bother them at all. For others, it drives them crazy. It's subtle, but once you notice it, it's really annoying. It's almost impossible not to notice if you've used an iOS device for an extended period of time (I owned an iPhone for a couple years). Responsiveness is something that Google has focused on (check out search Google for "Project Butter" for more info).
With every Android device I've used, the animations have looked cheap and clunky. They're not smooth (and never have been). They are choppy and they stutter; the best way I can describe it is like when you're playing a computer game on high settings and your framerate starts to drop. It doesn't look smooth and natural anymore -- it looks inconsistent. Android animations often look like frames are missing.
With the stock settings, go to your home page and start cycling through the pages quickly. For me, whenever it loaded those tiled pages (the thing with the calendar/email widgets, or the digital newspaper page), there was a noticeable hiccup. Successive cycles through the home pages would often feel smoother -- it seems that the device must temporarily cache some of the rendered data for a while. However, when it's of memory and needs to render again, the stuttering returns.
Also, try opening an app. By default, it plays that animation that looks like a window maximizing from a taskbar. That animation was always very choppy for me. Again, it looked like it was missing frames. Using Nova Launcher, I've switched to the Ice Cream Sandwich-style animation (sort of looks like a tube TV turning on), and it feels way more responsive and instantaneous to me.
Again, none of these changes are actually speeding up the device. It's just lowering animation times so that things feel faster.
Fresh owner of Pro Tab 10.1 T520 here :fingers-crossed:
i'm also kinda disappointed, i've rooted, changed kernel for better performance ditch the Samsung bloadware but still kinda lagy
I'm really considering to replace it with Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) i need Snapdragon power
I already had a 8.4 and bought a 10.1 because they are selling them so cheap. After disabling all the bloatware, I think that the speed is just fine, no lags, stutters or whatever. Make sure you really disable everything. To me it's not a big difference in speed with the 8.4.
Hello everyone,
I'm waiting to receive my SM-T520 10.1, replacing a Galaxy Note 10.1 (GT-N8010) broken.
I just tested these settings on my Note2 (GT-N7100). Antutu gives me before your adjustment in economic mode: 17941 And after with your settings. 18476, a real gain.
@ New tricks.
My SM-T525 runs fantastic with Cyanogenmod 11!
I've been hoping to get rid of Magazine UX and the rest of the bloat since I first fired up the device!
Hey guys,
i am about to get a 10.1 and i was wondering if i can use the multi-tasking feature (2 screens on the display) with Nova or Apex launcher or is it only for TouchWiz?
Best regards
I use it with Apex Launcher just fine.
Works fine with Nova too.
I tried these settings, along with cybertronics v5 kernel and graveds rom. I am not disappoint! Very impressive responsiveness and feels ridiculously smooth. Everyone should do this. Thanks!
Hello,
I have my Pro Tab 10.1 and 8 days, with your settings and it is the bomb ! :good:
Thanks, guys, i ordered it today!
I hope i will receive it on Monday!
Have a nice weekend! :good:
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Thanks, guys, i ordered it today!
I hope i will receive it on Monday!
Have a nice weekend! :good:
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Thank you, courage and patience you ! :victory:
I am about to get delivery of a 12.2 Tab Pro. Really excited at having all that real estate to play with. I travel a lot for work and can't wait to be able to watch movies on that monster screen. Anyone else here have one of these beasts?
BTW upgrading from a Asus Prime that served well and will now be handed down to my kid
We all are waiting for lollipop, but what a lot of people do not realize is a lot of the important news and functions of lollipop will not be included in lollipop.
I can recommend a few things to make your phone more like pure lollipop experience with Mate 7 and kitkat.
1. Install Nova Launcher, this is the best thing I have done ever, this app will give you a highly customizable lollipop experience, the most important aspect I think is the lollipop animations, you will notice this every time you open a app that the animation despite very weak gpu looks and feels a lot faster and smother and beautiful.
Nova Launcher will make all of the microlag of the Huawei launcher to disappear, switching apps goes faster, apps opens in a more beautiful way because the fast lollipop animations which makes the wait not so frustrating...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher&hl=en
There is plenty of launchers out there but I find Nova the best one I have tried so far..
2. Heads up notifcations is one of the most wanted function in Lollipop this will not be inclucded in Huawei Lollipop for mate 7.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=codes.simen.l50notifications&hl=en
despite it is only notifcations this will bring you amazing increase of multi tasking and also very good for one hand use especially if you put the notifcations in the center, which means you can always reach it with your thumb, whenever you get a kik message and a whatsapp message you can open the app fast with in click.. I recommend using black color and kind of transparent opacity. For even improved mult tasking use C notice together with heads-up app you will se they really complete each other..
I have been the person who have complained most about not getting lollipop but I must say, I do not care anymore, the Nova Launcher has really given the device a total new life, it is much faster then before... no damn micro lag.. apps open faster and more beutiful because of more smooth (but yet fast) animations.