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New Sensor or What? Help need!

Dear all, please dont kick me so hard, but can anybody explain me what is window (sensor, device???) on the top of htc logo and between calldynamic! What is this, proximity sensor NO?! IRda - NO?! In manuals i couldnt find this place explanation. Sorry didnt read all threads to find thruth!

DTNT said:
Dear all, please dont kick me so hard, but can anybody explain me what is window (sensor, device???) on the top of htc logo and between calldynamic! What is this, proximity sensor NO?! IRda - NO?! In manuals i couldnt find this place explanation. Sorry didnt read all threads to find thruth!
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First off, welcome to XDA
Secondly, do you mean the 3G Camera or earpiece or the light sensor?
Can you provide image of what you are describing?
Check out page 25 of manual

Thank you Spartan for you hospitality, no this sensor in the left side, it is not camera and light sensor! you can see it only in some angle, stright look will not show you this place. later i will try to highlight in pic.

DTNT said:
Thank you Spartan for you hospitality, no this sensor in the left side, it is not camera and light sensor! you can see it only in some angle, stright look will not show you this place. later i will try to highlight in pic.
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No sensor, just your imagination, scratch or build defect.

I dont mention that it is sensor, but what is this? please see in the angle to your apparatus and you will see it, maybe something that producers did for future uses? just take a look!

DTNT said:
I dont mention that it is sensor, but what is this? please see in the angle to your apparatus and you will see it, maybe something that producers did for future uses? just take a look!
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I have check on my girlfriend's TouchHD and there is....... NOTHING!

There is nothing there. Your phone might have some kind of minor manufacturing flaw that makes you think there is something there. I have had my HD for a year and have never heard of anything being there. I looked at it from all angles, and compared it to the right side. My phone shows nothing. Both the left and the right side look the same.

Thank you all for your attempts, but I will tru to put pic of it (if camera will capture it), and maybe than you can explain me this place usebility. Will try to give a pix on monday!!!

DTNT said:
Thank you all for your attempts, but I will tru to put pic of it (if camera will capture it), and maybe than you can explain me this place usebility. Will try to give a pix on monday!!!
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I highly doubt there's anything. I've recently opened up my phone to replace the screen and had to mess around in there with the camera/speaker/light sensor and there was nothing else.

Please see attached photoes, can anybody explain this window dedication? Waiting for your replyes.

looks like a air bubble under the screen protector.

Oh common guys, it is not bubble, not scratch, please look on top of htc logo untill calldynamic, this thing placed between them. Mayby mine is special, super-assembled!!!

ok, i was doubtful but i checked anyway and couldnt see anything, then i saw your pics and thought id give it another try and nope, nada, then i figured id pull it to bits and have a gander and inside and still nothing.
Whilst this was slightly entertaining im affraid to say you have probably got a bubble under the first layer of screen.
That is the most likely explination, the chances you have a one off device that no one else has which has some mystical new sensor is so small you'd be better off putting your life savings and the money you made selling your house on the lottery in the hope you'll hit the big one!

Ok, if accept the version that it is bubble under first layer, can you explain why this bubble has so right geometric forms? The guy next to me has an IPhone, and even him thought that it is porximity sensor like his apple has. Strange and Mistyc!!!

I agree that the shape is very geometrical, and I can understand how it would make you think there is something special there. It is unique, but I still don't think it's related to any functions or features the phone has. Look at the letters "htc". You have a slight frame around each letter that is the same shade/color as the "window" you are referring to. My "htc" letters have no such frame around them. The black of the phone comes up directly to where the white letters start.
So, I think it's some kind of strange manufacturing effect.
I'll even attach the service manual for you to look at.
Download service manual here

To be truthfully honest I thought you were seeing things until you posted your 3 pics. Yes, it does look geometrical in shape, but I can assure you that this is not a sensor, button or anything else intended by HTC. As stated by others previously is looks like a flaw in some way, either on the device itself or caused by the skin protector. If you take your device to any retail shop and compare it with another HD this may ease your concerns and I'm sure the staff in the shop would also say as everyone else here has.

Absolutely agree with htc letter, before your post i don't even see this feat, well, i think i should agree with that this window has no any function. Besides i saw off. manual, no-nothing. OK, waiting for another variants of reply.

Fallen Spartan said:
To be truthfully honest I thought you were seeing things until you posted your 3 pics. Yes, it does look geometrical in shape, but I can assure you that this is not a sensor, button or anything else intended by HTC. As stated by others previously is looks like a flaw in some way, either on the device itself or caused by the skin protector. If you take your device to any retail shop and compare it with another HD this may ease your concerns and I'm sure the staff in the shop would also say as everyone else here has.
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Well, first of all device was bought not in EU, second, in my country very hard to find even person who owns device, too much expensive for our market, i'm even not talking about shops to compare my apparatus with others. By the way, does anybody know, whether in this forum chats somebody from HTC. i would asked him directly.

DTNT said:
Well, first of all device was bought not in EU, second, in my country very hard to find even person who owns device, too much expensive for our market, i'm even not talking about shops to compare my apparatus with others. By the way, does anybody know, whether in this forum chats somebody from HTC. i would asked him directly.
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I would just ask HTC directly on their contact site:
http://www.htc.com/europe/CS_Mail.aspx

Looks like something trapped under the screen protector, did you peel it back and check?

Tablet Wifi Unit

How can I locate the Wifi Unit in any tablet computer if it is integrated into the circuit board? What should I look for e.g. any particular type of chip?
Also is it possible to physically disable(not by software) the Wifi Unit by e.g. short circuiting it or taking out one of its components?

It usually has a metal shielding
see some examples on google
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...m=93&espv=210&q=wifi+module&safe=off&tbm=isch
You could try damaging parts of it reallyy carefully, but i dont recommend it.
I think Android and hardware relations are modular so if one part vanishes such as camera it just greys it out. but dont quote me on that.
can I ask why?

CountParadox said:
It usually has a metal shielding
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I have seen one tablet where there is no visible shielding. Are there any other clues I can look for to find the Wifi unit?
CountParadox said:
You could try damaging parts of it reallyy carefully, but i dont recommend it.
I think Android and hardware relations are modular so if one part vanishes such as camera it just greys it out. but dont quote me on that.
can I ask why?
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Is there any particular part I could try?
For example, could I try to take the chip out, or cut a few of the chip connections to the circuit board?
It is for work, which does not allow any internet devices.

HTaylor said:
I have seen one tablet where there is no visible shielding. Are there any other clues I can look for to find the Wifi unit?
Is there any particular part I could try?
For example, could I try to take the chip out, or cut a few of the chip connections to the circuit board?
It is for work, which does not allow any internet devices.
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maybe with some research you can find the official assistance centre blueprints where you can easily find what chip is

HTaylor said:
I have seen one tablet where there is no visible shielding. Are there any other clues I can look for to find the Wifi unit?
Is there any particular part I could try?
For example, could I try to take the chip out, or cut a few of the chip connections to the circuit board?
It is for work, which does not allow any internet devices.
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Can you post photos of the board inside the tablet ?
Ill look around a bit for you

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Can you post photos of the board inside the tablet ?
Ill look around a bit for you
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Sorry for the delay, I've been away.
I've not bought one yet, as I'm waiting to find one which I can modify.
But I'm looking in the lower budget range of tablets such as the Nook HD 7",etc. So if you know of any please let me know?

HTaylor said:
Sorry for the delay, I've been away.
I've not bought one yet, as I'm waiting to find one which I can modify.
But I'm looking in the lower budget range of tablets such as the Nook HD 7",etc. So if you know of any please let me know?
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I have an Acer A500 and the wifi module has a black antenna wire with a removable plug. It looks just like the one on my pc. You can't miss it.

Cracked rear camera

So I cracked my rear camera today. My question is how do I know if its just the lens or the actual camera which has been cracked?
I can take pictures however they seem to have a faint blur and don't focus.
Also does anyone know if this will come under warranty
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Conceited_squirrel said:
So I cracked my rear camera today. My question is how do I know if its just the lens or the actual camera which has been cracked?
I can take pictures however they seem to have a faint blur and don't focus.
Also does anyone know if this will come under warranty
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I don't know about the warranty, but I'd guess no. Can't hurt to call them and ask though.
The part is like $20 (USD)
And it's SUPER easy to swap it out yourself.
Here's a guide. With pictures. Specifically for swapping the camera.
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Samsung+Galaxy+S4+Rear+Facing+Camera+Replacement/16538
Here is a video guide for complete disassembly of the phone. The videos can be more helpful in seeing how to take it apart.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm4f2XjQLAM
Once you have the new camera you will see that the whole unit just plugs into the motherboard. Once the board is removed from the phone you literally just unplug the broken one and plug in the new one. It should take no more than 15 minutes to swap out the camera from start to finish.

Skipjacks said:
I don't know about the warranty, but I'd guess no. Can't hurt to call them and ask though.
The part is like $20 (USD)
And it's SUPER easy to swap it out yourself.
Here's a guide. With pictures. Specifically for swapping the camera.
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Samsung+Galaxy+S4+Rear+Facing+Camera+Replacement/16538
Here is a video guide for complete disassembly of the phone. The videos can be more helpful in seeing how to take it apart.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm4f2XjQLAM
Once you have the new camera you will see that the whole unit just plugs into the motherboard. Once the board is removed from the phone you literally just unplug the broken one and plug in the new one. It should take no more than 15 minutes to swap out the camera from start to finish.
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Thanks for the help
So is the camera broken or the lens?
Also the replacement part you spoke of, will it be like the 13 megapixel one I have now or a knock off? Because I thought it would cost way more for a 13 megapixel camera.
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Conceited_squirrel said:
Thanks for the help
So is the camera broken or the lens?
Also the replacement part you spoke of, will it be like the 13 megapixel one I have now or a knock off? Because I thought it would cost way more for a 13 megapixel camera.
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I have no idea. You'd have to take it apart and look at it. If it's the lens then I think those are available on eBay and Amazon for like $7 USD
As for the camera itself, buyer beware. They are all over the internet for $20 - $30. Some get rave reviews as being perfect. Some get complaints that they don't work at all.
I have a suspicion that many of the negative reviews are people who don't know what they are doing or who bought the wrong part. The i9500 S4 and all the others (i9505, M919, etc etc etc) are different S4s with different camera hardware. Most people probably don't realize that all S4's aren't the same.
Here's an ad for one...
http://www.repairsuniverse.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-rear-camera.html
It talks about making sure you have the right phone for this part and how to tell the difference. I don't endorse that website. You'll have to research it yourself to see if it's legit or not. I've never used it or heard of it before today. It was the first thing that popped up on a Google search and it seemed to have good info on the replacement parts.
In any case, it's not an expensive part. It's all about finding the correct one for your device.
Also, make sure you get the REAR camera and not the front one. One genius on Amazon reviews said how this is the entirely wrong part and it doesn't fit in the phone at all. He was clearly trying to change the front camera and ordered the rear camera. So take your negative reviews with a grain of salt. There are a lot of 'repair experts' out there who shouldn't be allowed to change the battery.

LCD replace

Hello, I have broken the screen tha way that half is displayed properly and half mixed colors. Physically no damages visible. Is it 100% screen failure od maybe mainboard?

@Filozof71: What did you do, drop it? It's most likely the screen that's damaged, not the motherboard. If you are still under warranty, send it in to ZTE, they will probably send back a refurbished Axon 7 to replace it. This is the option I personally recommend.
Or, if you know how to replace the screen yourself, you can probably buy a new one on EBay or AliExpress. There is a disassembly guide somewhere here on the forum that shows you how to take the A7 apart step by step.

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@Filozof71: What did you do, drop it? It's most likely the screen that's damaged, not the motherboard. If you are still under warranty, send it in to ZTE, they will probably send back a refurbished Axon 7 to replace it. This is the option I personally recommend.
Or, if you know how to replace the screen yourself, you can probably buy a new one on EBay or AliExpress. There is a disassembly guide somewhere here on the forum that shows you how to take the A7 apart step by step.
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I Havel it from gearbest nad they five only 12 months. I paid 200 usd. I will post the photo tomorrow.

Hello,
I post how my Axon failure looks like. Please comment.

Filozof71 said:
Hello,
I post how my Axon failure looks like. Please comment.
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99% sure it's not broken. Push down on the screen, at 1 cm from the right edge of the screen, roughly where the volume buttons are. You almost definitely just have an unsnapped screen connector
If you can't get it to work, watch JerryRigEverything's video on how to take apart the phone and memorize where the screen connector is (it is abt 1 cm tall). Then push on the screen where it is, no need to take the phone apart. If it still doesn't do anything just take it apart and reconnect it

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99% sure it's not broken. Push down on the screen, at 1 cm from the right edge of the screen, roughly where the volume buttons are. You almost definitely just have an unsnapped screen connector
If you can't get it to work, watch JerryRigEverything's video on how to take apart the phone and memorize where the screen connector is (it is abt 1 cm tall). Then push on the screen where it is, no need to take the phone apart. If it still doesn't do anything just take it apart and reconnect it
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Omfg it works. I wanted buy the LCD from Ali and in the last moment decided to write here. Grat kudos and give mi your PayPal I will pay 10usd. Thank You.

Filozof71 said:
Omfg it works. I wanted buy the LCD from Ali and in the last moment decided to write here. Grat kudos and give mi your PayPal I will pay 10usd. Thank You.
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no need

The axon 7 have no lcd. Its an amoled

@BaamAlex: Now you're just nitpicking. Our device has a *SCREEN*, regardless of the technology behind it.

AnonVendetta said:
@BaamAlex: Now you're just nitpicking. Our device has a *SCREEN*, regardless of the technology behind it.
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This. Seeing as OP was clearly struggling with the language.

Misplaced Rear Camera!

The 6T just arrived yesterday, it felt really good 'cause I was coming from the ages old OnePlus One.
And boom! I had this feeling that the camera on my phone is misplaced. Both rear cameras are not in the centre, they're a bit above the centre.
Could anyone please help here? I just got one friend out here who has a 6T and comparing the two I do see some difference.
Should I care about this misplacement? I'll get a replacement if I report it within 10 days so yeah, do tell me if anyone knows about this and if I should really care and report it or is it not a big deal and just fine. The phone is perfect - those cameras work perfectly, I tested them individually by the tests in *#808# and both work.
Attaching some images of my phone and also one that I found on the internet (which I feel has the same issue?).
I've marked the cam in yellow and the asymmetrical hollow space around it in green.
(It's the 256GB model by the way)

isnt that what OIS does?
the camera moves inside its aperture
i thought it was by design

Quick visual assessment of my device appears the bottom camera is up a tiny bit and top is down a little. If I get a chance I'll throw my phone on the metrology imaging device at work and verify if my eyes are playing tricks on me. Regardless I don't think it's anything to be concerned about.

Checked mine they are very close to centered as you can see in the picture. The dots in the center of the circle represent the center of each circle. Probably hard to see though.

virtyx said:
isnt that what OIS does?
the camera moves inside its aperture
i thought it was by design
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What are you talking about? That has nothing to do with this post
To op;
At first glance I thought you were probably seeing things but after looking at your pics it does seem pretty clear that the camera units are not 'properly' centered in the frame...
It's really up to you as to whether you want to RMA for a replacement. I had to replace mine for different reasons and am glad I did but if they are functioning properly, as you say they are, I might just not bother with replacement.... Definitely weird situation though.

Is it making a drastic difference in the image quality of the photo?
If not, then I wouldn't worry about it.

virtyx said:
isnt that what OIS does?
the camera moves inside its aperture
i thought it was by design
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Ah, yes. I know that the 16MP camera above the flash does move 'cause of OIS but I've seen the top one exactly centred on other phones. Looking more precisely, I saw that the rest position of both the cameras is a bit above the centre (of course both, because they're mounted on one board).
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Quick visual assessment of my device appears the bottom camera is up a tiny bit and top is down a little. If I get a chance I'll throw my phone on the metrology imaging device at work and verify if my eyes are playing tricks on me. Regardless I don't think it's anything to be concerned about.
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Haha, thanks. Appreciate your help!
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Checked mine they are very close to centered as you can see in the picture. The dots in the center of the circle represent the center of each circle. Probably hard to see though.
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OMG you really did some work on this! Thank you so much. I can see the dots and that's the same problem as mine. The difference is that your error is very, very less as compared to mine. Any problems with the cam so far?
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To op;
At first glance I thought you were probably seeing things but after looking at your pics it does seem pretty clear that the camera units are not 'properly' centered in the frame...
It's really up to you as to whether you want to RMA for a replacement. I had to replace mine for different reasons and am glad I did but if they are functioning properly, as you say they are, I might just not bother with replacement.... Definitely weird situation though.
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Hey, thanks for looking into it. Would you recommend any sort of check for testing the secondary cam functionality? It's just day 2 for me so I'm sure I haven't digged in the phone as much as you have.
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Is it making a drastic difference in the image quality of the photo?
If not, then I wouldn't worry about it.
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There's absolutely no change in the image quality. The cameras are not broken or anything, just misplaced.
It's just that this being my most expensive smartphone yet, I was a bit concerned. Thanks!
I guess I forget about this now until someone really points some unknown fact about this. Before Valentine's day!

Paresh Kalinani said:
OMG you really did some work on this! Thank you so much. I can see the dots and that's the same problem as mine. The difference is that your error is very, very less as compared to mine. Any problems with the cam so far?
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It's a really fancy measuring device I have at work took about a minute to whip up so no big deal at all. And no I have not noticed any issues at all. I get great quality photos and video. If you aren't experiencing problems I would guess your fine but it's your device so your call

Paresh Kalinani said:
The 6T just arrived yesterday, it felt really good 'cause I was coming from the ages old OnePlus One.
And boom! I had this feeling that the camera on my phone is misplaced. Both rear cameras are not in the centre, they're a bit above the centre.
Could anyone please help here? I just got one friend out here who has a 6T and comparing the two I do see some difference.
Should I care about this misplacement? I'll get a replacement if I report it within 10 days so yeah, do tell me if anyone knows about this and if I should really care and report it or is it not a big deal and just fine. The phone is perfect - those cameras work perfectly, I tested them individually by the tests in *#808# and both work.
Attaching some images of my phone and also one that I found on the internet (which I feel has the same issue?).
I've marked the cam in yellow and the asymmetrical hollow space around it in green.
(It's the 256GB model by the way)
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@Paresh Kalinani please update this post with the solution you came up.
Thanks!

It's all good.
rsmarx said:
@Paresh Kalinani please update this post with the solution you came up.
Thanks!
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I showed it to multiple local repairers and all of them suggested to not go for replacement if I had to use the phone for important things, back then. I spent a lot of time testing both the cameras at the back thoroughly and they had no problem at all. I didn't do anything! I did not get it replaced. I can still see my cameras are misplaced but there's no issue at all. Top class photos and videos, used a lot.
So I can close this with : If you're concerned about your camera's positioning, go get your device replaced. If you're concerned about it's functioning, don't. They're 100% fine. :good: