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Buy or not Meizu M5 PRO? Or rather a Nexus 6P?

Meizu 5 Pro has best processor of Android (Exynos 7420), sd card, nice AMOLED screen with 1080P, great battery (4th on battery life tests this year), and great price also (450 Euros).
But is Meizu....
¿Do you think is a good buy?
Or would be better a Huawei 6P with
Google support for two years and stereo speakers
Better camera and screen
but
Worse battery and processor
No sd
More expensive (200 euros more)
¿Does Meizu give software support with latest Android? ¿Which one you prefer? (you can put other smarthphones on the equation also)

I want to answer your question by comparing both phones in each category.
Design:
I started with design part because, for me it's very important part. I like meizu pro 5 design much more than 6p not saying 6p is not good but, 2.5D glass with looking similar to Iphone in front is not a bad thing in meizu and better than 6p here. I prefer Fingerprint as a home button on meizu at the front much more than in 6p at the back. ( Not to mention how innovative home button of meizu will change the way of using this phone when you getting used to it and you cannot compare it with any other android phone). Also design of meizu at the back is also more beautiful in my opinion as it's a little similar to htc one series. Also 10g less weight in meizu should be a little more suitable in hand.
Camera:
About camera in meizu it does pretty decent job in good light maybe even better than 6p specially better in detail comparison but, in low light you should either use manual mode or accept quality of auto mod which is not bad but, differently 6p is better but, not much better.
Selfie with front camera is definitely better (more detail) in 6p but, for internet both do good job here.
Processor:
The main problem in 6p is qualcomm 810 processor which is a big no for me specially compare to Exynos 7420 which is arguably the best in the market for now (even compare to karin 950) and you will never feel a hot phone in your hand or lag due to hot temperature of cpu and much more energy efficient than Q 810. (Not fan of Antutu benchmarks but, recently Meizu take the crown from Huawei karin 950 chipset in Huawei Mate 8!)
Softwere:
On the other hand meizu apparently is new to world market and cannot support their phone like google but, in future with custom roms it will be okay I think (do not expect near future!) Meizu does not come with unlock bootloader and apparently there is no way to unlock it and it may take so long to either someone manage to unlock it (very difficult + lack off good developers due to less popularity of meizu and the phone itself) or company give us a way to do it so, do not except support of developers or company like 6p. Meizu will definitely upgrade meizu pro 5 to marshmallow but, time is unknown.
Also if you really like pure android experience which I don't! heavily skin of Flyme OS on top of android in meizu may become a big problem for you. Lack of app drawer or design of home screen or even default apps are not a big deal as you can get a good launchers now a day specially with htc sense launcher and apps but, other part like setting menu and notification drawer and etc will be always the flyme one!
Screen
Comparing the screen, there should not be much differences as both phones using very similar amoled technology and panel. Yes 2k vs full hd but, 2k display of 6p is not as good as samsung new flagships like gs6 or note 5. Brightness of both phones are almost similar. I don't think you will notice the differences here in display part in daily usage because, differences of 2k displays are not very recognizable in human eyes in phones bellow 7" screens. But, if it does for you it's just a little more sharper but, not better in contrast, color and etc.
In 6p you will get gorilla glass 4 which is better when you drop the phone and can manage much more pressure here but, not as good as gorilla glass 3 (meizu pro 5) in scratch resistance part. If you use screen protector no problem here for both phones.
Audio:
Yes 6p has dual speaker in front which is more suitable when watching something or listening to musics with speakers but, meizu on the other hand support Hi-Fi audio so, provide much better quality sound specially when you plug a headphone which 6p was unfortunately poor here.
Hardware/Connectivity/Network/Battery:
Lack of memory support is again a big downside of 6p compare to meizu plus 2 sim in meizu vs 1 in 6p (in meizu 2 sim if you don't use sd card) .
For connectivity both doing great and not very different here. You have more 4g bands support in 6p but, if you don't live in USA you will not loose here. Meizu definitely is much better in battery part as you know so, no more words here. Also meizu charge the battery a little faster than 6p specially if you charge 6p with retail charger in it's package which the plug is weaker than meizu fast charger plug. (No need to buy faster plug in meizu).
Okay I don't know if I left anything else and hope it helps you to choose the best option but, personally I will choose meizu here as you mention the price of 6p I don't think it wrote 200 euro more just for a little better camera, speaker and screen VS it's downs. But, if you cannot live without latest version of android and faster support of google or with Flyme OS of meizu better to go for 6p. ( The only real downside of meizu compare to 6p currently before unlocking the bootloader of pro 5)

DanielGatti said:
Meizu 5 Pro has best processor of Android (Exynos 7420), sd card, nice AMOLED screen with 1080P, great battery (4th on battery life tests this year), and great price also (450 Euros).
But is Meizu....
¿Do you think is a good buy?
Or would be better a Huawei 6P with
Google support for two years and stereo speakers
Better camera and screen
but
Worse battery and processor
No sd
More expensive (200 euros more)
¿Does Meizu give software support with latest Android? ¿Which one you prefer? (you can put other smarthphones on the equation also)
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If you look at the prices, i will go for Letv Lemax, the most powerful android phone, that will be out soon and will cost about 530 USD with new snapdragon 820 and with antutu benchmark about 120 000. It have 64/128GB ROM, 4GB ram, QHD dipley, 21 MPX camera, USB 3.0 type C, atc.

Kubas_inko_CZ said:
If you look at the prices, i will go for Letv Lemax, the most powerful android phone, that will be out soon and will cost about 530 USD with new snapdragon 820 and with antutu benchmark about 120 000. It have 64/128GB ROM, 4GB ram, QHD dipley, 21 MPX camera, USB 3.0 type C, atc.
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6.33-inch display! wow huge for a phone!
Plus 2 MP front camera is not good for selfie + not amoled screen + 3400mAh battery definitely is not good in 2k IPS LCD display and you should wait at least 3 more months if not more for outside of china; And 530 usd price (price of 32gb with no expandable storage) is unconfirmed and if it cost 530$ it will be in china not outside so, definitely expect 600$+
The only upside is the cpu which we don't know how well it's until it comes out plus OIS in camera. Qualcome did awful job in 810

I've used both and the camera on the Meizu is far better than the 6P.

Huawei Mate 8 : Everything We Know

Huawei a chinese smartphone maker is focussing now on premium segment market with its new launch huawei mate 8 with its launch at CES 2016 which is initially launched at 30 countries including Germany , France, Emirates .
Huawei Mate 8 comes up with finger print sensor
Design
The front of the phone comes in a brushed metal finish which appeals a lot at first sight with huawei branding at the bottom of screen . The mate 8 features a 6.2 inches touchscreen and a finger print sensor at the back under the camera . Over all finish of the phone is upmarket and is sleek . On the right side there are just 2 buttons one is the power button and other is the volume rocker button . The charging dock section is similar to iPhone 6s and the Samsung Galaxy s7 . The mate 8 is offered in 4 colors (champagne gold, moonlight silver , space grey and mocha brown )
Color variants of Huawei Mate 8
Display
The phone features a 6.2 inches screen with a resolution of 1080 x 1920 pixels and pixel density of 368 per inch . The screen is IPS -NEO LCD capacitive touchscreen with 16m colours . Gorilla glass 4 comes into play for protection of screen . The phone’s dimension is (6.19 x 3.17 x 0.31) inches .
Huawei Mate 8 Display
PERFORMANCE
THE huawei mate 8 comes in 2 variants One features 1.8 GHz quad core A – 53 processor and other features 2.3 GHz cortex A-72 quadcore processor . The 1.8 GHz processor features 3 GB RAM and hi sillicion Kirin 950 chipset and other variant features 4 GB RAM . Internal storage of both variants is 32 GB which is expandable upto 64 GB via micro sd card . The mate 8 runs on 6.0 Android with emotion ui .
BATTERY
The huawei mate 8 has a battery of 4000 mah which is non removable and which provides a stand by time of 528 (3g) h and music play of 98 hours .
Camera
Camera is a strong point for this phone . Primary camera is 16 MP sony sourced with features like smile detection , panorama , HDR , Geo tagging , touch focus , auto focus , phase detection , OIS , and an aperture of f(2.0) . The front facing camera is 8 MP which outclasses most of its rivals.
Huawei Mate 8 camera
Features
The mate 8 has a long list of features including Bluetooth 4.2 , NFC , OTG support , FM , dual sim (both nano ) and sensors like fingerprint , proximity , accelerometer , ambient light sensor , gyroscope etc . The mate 8 has dual sim option out of which one supports 4g (band 40 ) and other supports 3g in India .
Verdict
The mate 8 with its hefty price tag (expected to be near about 43,000 for 3gb RAM version) has direct rivals like iPhone 6s and Samsung s7 edge . The mate 8 has plus points of like long list of features and elegant looks which makes it sensible to buy over the others
Share this :good::good:

So .... whats the point of this topic ?

hm...make us realize what a truly amazing phone we have here?
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Everything We DONT Know
That's what we need if you us to shear!

"Camera
Camera is a strong point for this phone"
Stopped reading here.

zat0x said:
So .... whats the point of this topic ?
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Just to tell how elegant and powerful this phone is !! :fingers-crossed:

jbmc83 said:
hm...make us realize what a truly amazing phone we have here?
Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10 using Tapatalk
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yess kinda !! :good::victory::victory:

Pfeffernuss said:
"Camera
Camera is a strong point for this phone"
Stopped reading here.
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camera is best !! i love this phone's camera

You should consult a doctor for your eyes.
Edit : The hardware is good, but the way how the software use it is pretty bad. Everytime I have to inscrease sharpness, contrast etc with photoshop to make descent pictures with this phone. I didn't have to do that with my LG G3.

allaboutthetrend said:
camera is best !! i love this phone's camera
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Display
The phone features a 6.2 inches screen
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You must have a custom made Mate 8 with a better camera. And apparently a bigger screen as well.
That might explain things. The rest of us have a mediocre camera and a smaller screen.

Dude is some kind of sales representative on drugs.

x-phy said:
You should consult a doctor for your eyes.
Edit : The hardware is good, but the way how the software use it is pretty bad. Everytime I have to inscrease sharpness, contrast etc with photoshop to make descent pictures with this phone. I didn't have to do that with my LG G3.
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i dont find difficulty in this !!

duck from space said:
Dude is some kind of sales representative on drugs.
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NO !! i just simply liked the phone
thought to tell the people about it

I understand your point of view. After all, if you like your device, that's the most important. But in comparison with some lastest flagship made by LG or Sammy, the Mate 8 camera pics are really %*^!*ù$^:!. I'm thinking to sell my device coz of this (I miss my bricked lg g3).

Pfeffernuss said:
You must have a custom made Mate 8 with a better camera. And apparently a bigger screen as well.
That might explain things. The rest of us have a mediocre camera and a smaller screen.
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idk :3

x-phy said:
I understand your point of view. After all, if you like your device, that's the most important. But in comparison with some lastest flagship made by LG or Sammy, the Mate 8 camera pics are really %*^!*ù$^:!. I'm thinking to sell my device coz of this (I miss my bricked lg g3).
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yeahh i agree to you in this point .

sorry but its wrong...
PERFORMANCE
THE huawei mate 8 comes in 2 variants One features 1.8 GHz quad core A – 53 processor and other features 2.3 GHz cortex A-72 quadcore processor . The 1.8 GHz processor features 3 GB RAM and hi sillicion Kirin 950 chipset and other variant features 4 GB RAM . Internal storage of both variants is 32 GB which is expandable upto 64 GB via micro sd card . The mate 8 runs on 6.0 Android with emotion ui .
Both version have CPU Quad-core 2.3 GHz Cortex-A72 + quad-core 1.8 GHz Cortex A53 , but 1 have 32go and 3go Ram , and other one have 64go +4go ram

duck from space said:
Dude is some kind of sales representative on drugs.
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Nothing as such !!

NaoNative said:
sorry but its wrong...
PERFORMANCE
THE huawei mate 8 comes in 2 variants One features 1.8 GHz quad core A – 53 processor and other features 2.3 GHz cortex A-72 quadcore processor . The 1.8 GHz processor features 3 GB RAM and hi sillicion Kirin 950 chipset and other variant features 4 GB RAM . Internal storage of both variants is 32 GB which is expandable upto 64 GB via micro sd card . The mate 8 runs on 6.0 Android with emotion ui .
Both version have CPU Quad-core 2.3 GHz Cortex-A72 + quad-core 1.8 GHz Cortex A53 , but 1 have 32go and 3go Ram , and other one have 64go +4go ram
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Maybe i'm wrong . Thanks for updating the people
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Take your medecine and go to bed.

Mi MAX 2 going to be launched. What do you think guys?

http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max_2-8582.php
no improvement - 6.44" (1080x1920 pixels)
no improvement - 12MP (2160p)
good improvement - 6GB RAM (Snapdragon 626)
slight imprvement - 5000mAh (Li-Ion)

The SOC feels like a downgrade
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big improvement - NFC

Some rumors about a SD 660 chipset. Otherwise I dont know how the 626 compares to 650. Is the camera alot better I might be interested anyway. My wife can get my mi max 1 then

The camera will be a great improvement (Sony imx 378)

keithleyson said:
The SOC feels like a downgrade
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Yeah, if that really is the SoC with 3 year old A53-s, its a downgrade.

Keep the price at around $300 for the 128gb version and it will be a steal even with a slightly better soc and camera.

SD626 isn't as good as SD652/3 but it has best endurance. With proper optimization, it may lead this area. SD626+5000mAh is definitely much much better.
Also these guys are downgrading SOC to keep costs same. See the way Redmi Note series did.

bluheart said:
SD626 isn't as good as SD652/3 but it has best endurance. With proper optimization, it may lead this area. SD626+5000mAh is definitely much much better.
Also these guys are downgrading SOC to keep costs same. See the way Redmi Note series did.
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It's not about price, it's about supply... Xiaomi is too nobady to get on the 660 wagon. Even bigger and more reputable players on the market have hard times to secure 660 from Qualcomm in quantities they need.

Yes! That's the biggest point, true.
The topper here is SD625+5000mAh phone.

The 626 will get better battery life at the expense of performance, like the Redmi Note 3 vs Note 4 Snapdragon variants. I guess most people won't be able to tell the performance difference but they can definitely tell battery life changes.
The great thing about the 650/652 is that it could be really fast if you wanted it or really efficient. The 615 and 626 don't have that ability because they don't have powerful A72 cores. The 660 would be the best but I doubt that will make it into a lot of phones as it could jeopardize flagship sales... Who needs the latest 8xx SoC when a 66x at half the price is good enough?

I have the 650 soc Max, using it as a mini tablet at home. If the Max 2 have richer duel speakers; better contrast screen and 660 soc. I will likely upgrade, otherwise the current Max is good enough.

Xiaomi Mi Max 2 has been released.
Xiaomi Mi Max 2 Smartphone Main Features:
Display: 6.44 Inch, 1920 x 1080
CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 Octa Core
RAM + ROM: 4GB RAM + 128GB/64GB ROM
Camera: 5.0MP front camera + 12.0MP 5 element lens, f/2.0 aperture back camera

No Snapdragon 660, only 625
Battery is 5300mAh
http://en.miui.com/thread-617857-1-1.html

i can't believe it, snapdragon 650 to 625 is an upgrade???
it's a huge mistake and very disappointing
also i hoped for a better LCD which is the same

Look at the bright side... No need to upgrade....

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nijel8 said:
Look at the bright side... No need to upgrade....
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Absolutely true Buddy! Let's upgrade next year when Max3 with possibly SD770 will be out.
Beat to attract new comers to huge screen phones not for an upgrade.
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/22103...-1080p-display-5300mah-battery-announced.html

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Relieved to read the specs of this phone. No need to upgrade if you own a Max. On the contrary, buy one when the priced fall a bit as the Max 2 is released. It has a better SoC.

Honor 8 pro FASTER than OnePlus 5?

The processor Kirin 960 doesn't outperform Snapdragon 835 in benchmarks but who cares about benchmarks in 2017 the real life performance of Honor 8 pro seems to be just smooth even while gaming and other stuff and their is a plus point that the Kirin 960 processor doesn't seem to get overheated while playing heavy games unlike Snapdragon 835 in OnePlus 5 so I'd feel to opt or prefer the underrated Honor 8 pro or Honor 6X or Honor 9 against OnePlus 5 considering the price that Honor Phones are available!

If you get your hands on honor 8 pro, please tell us how it compares against OP5

People still care about benchmarks in 2017. Wow.
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Honor 8 pro is no slouch in terms of performance. It's a real flagship in performance. You can keep 20 or maybe more apps open at the same time. I have tried with 10 and none of the apps closed abruptly.
Apps open quick.
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Just C4ETECH speed test between honor 8 pro and OP5, you'll see they're too close.

K.khiladi said:
Honor 8 pro is no slouch in terms of performance. It's a real flagship in performance. You can keep 20 or maybe more apps open at the same time. I have tried with 10 and none of the apps closed abruptly.
Apps open quick.
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This is why benchmarks are becoming pointless. Every 2017 flagship performs like this. Thoughts @joe2k01?

adriansticoid said:
This is why benchmarks are becoming pointless. Every 2017 flagship performs like this. Thoughts @joe2k01?
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And I don't even understand those speed tests comparing two smart phones together. I mean who is gonna compare them in real life. No one uses a stopwatch to calculate the time.
People get mad if one phone manages to open some app 2 seconds earlier and crown it as the king. Come on.[emoji23]
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K.khiladi said:
And I don't even understand those speed tests comparing two smart phones together. I mean who is gonna compare them in real life. No one uses a stopwatch to calculate the time.
People get mad if one phone manages to open some app 2 seconds earlier and crown it as the king. Come on.[emoji23]
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Hahaha. Exactly. :laugh:

K.khiladi said:
And I don't even understand those speed tests comparing two smart phones together. I mean who is gonna compare them in real life. No one uses a stopwatch to calculate the time.
People get mad if one phone manages to open some app 2 seconds earlier and crown it as the king. Come on.[emoji23]
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Well, you're damn right
All the flagships these days open apps fast enough, for me, the only criteria for choosing a smartphone would be how good the development is for it

PalakMi said:
Well, you're damn right
All the flagships these days open apps fast enough, for me, the only criteria for choosing a smartphone would be how good the development is for it
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I was a rom freak. I loved customising my phone a lot with all the features. I am using a custom skin for the first time and I am absolutely not missing any feature from custom rom (except maybe double tap to sleep and wake).
And so, I am not feeling the need to root this device. The performance out of the box is exceptional.
Sent from my Honor 8 pro using Tapatalk

K.khiladi said:
I was a rom freak. I loved customising my phone a lot with all the features. I am using a custom skin for the first time and I am absolutely not missing any feature from custom rom (except maybe double tap to sleep and wake).
And so, I am not feeling the need to root this device. The performance out of the box is exceptional.
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Well, Honor did a great job with 8 series

PalakMi said:
Well, Honor did a great job with 8 series
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That is true. But I don't think that the Honor 8 Pro is much of a improvement over the original Honor 8.

iceepyon said:
That is true. But I don't think that the Honor 8 Pro is much of a improvement over the original Honor 8.
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I completely disagree with that.
Honor 8 pro has a bigger and higher resolution screen with higher body to screen ratio.
Homor 8 pro has better chipset with larger ram and internal storage.
Honor 8 pro has a better front facing camera.
The things that could have been upgraded are -
Rear camera - Both honor 8 and honor 8 pro have cameras with same aperture (f2.2). I would have liked the aperture to be atleast 2.0 on honor 8 pro.
Amoled screen - Maybe they could have used an amoled screen
Nothing else really. I am completely OK with my Honor 8 pro. Just want 8.0 upgrade by the end of year.
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iceepyon said:
That is true. But I don't think that the Honor 8 Pro is much of a improvement over the original Honor 8.
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There's a big difference in screen, battery, performance, GPU...etc

K.khiladi said:
I completely disagree with that.
Honor 8 pro has a bigger and higher resolution screen with higher body to screen ratio.
Homor 8 pro has better chipset with larger ram and internal storage.
Honor 8 pro has a better front facing camera.
The things that could have been upgraded are -
Rear camera - Both honor 8 and honor 8 pro have cameras with same aperture (f2.2). I would have liked the aperture to be atleast 2.0 on honor 8 pro.
Amoled screen - Maybe they could have used an amoled screen
Nothing else really. I am completely OK with my Honor 8 pro. Just want 8.0 upgrade by the end of year.
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My mistake I thought they both used the same Kirin 960 SOC.

iceepyon said:
My mistake I thought they both used the same Kirin 960 SOC.
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No, honor 8 have kirin 950

PalakMi said:
No, honor 8 have kirin 950
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Yeah, but the Kirin 950 is no slouch either. Even by modern standards it's quite a beast.

iceepyon said:
Yeah, but the Kirin 950 is no slouch either. Even by modern standards it's quite a beast.
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Yes, the only bad thing about it is the GPU

PalakMi said:
Yes, the only bad thing about it is the GPU
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The GPU on the Kirin 950 wasn't that bad. It rendered games perfectly with hardly any lag or dropped frames.

iceepyon said:
The GPU on the Kirin 950 wasn't that bad. It rendered games perfectly with hardly any lag or dropped frames.
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Well, I played riptide GP runs well on medium but, at max settings it lags sometime and I notice frame drops.
However it is good but not great

Best Features of the Honor 7X

Best Features of the Honor 7X
The Honor 7X is probably one of the best budget phones of 2017. Here are some of my favorite features.
Display
The display on the 7X is significantly better than the 6X. There is a noticeable quality bump when looking at small details in pictures. The new aspect ratio is 18:9 at a 1080x2160p. The extra screen space really does make a difference especially when browsing on chrome.
Build Quality
Wow Honor went all out with the build quality on this phone. This feels exactly like the Honor 8 Pro which is a flagship device and one of the most expensive in the Honor lineup. The body of the phone has a cold metallic feel but is lighter than you'd expect. The look of the phone is great. It doesn't look like a budget phone at all. Really impressed with the build of this device.
Performance
There's not a lot of hype behind the Kirin line of CPUs, but they are very fast and efficient. While I'd much rather see a snapdragon in this thing, the Kirin 659 paired with 4GB of RAM keeps this phone running very snappy.
Bonus: Worst Feature
Mico USB
This phone has so much going for it that it's just really strange to see them go with a Micro USB instead of USB type C. I'd imagine there must be some significant price cut when going with Micro USB over Type C, but it's just odd to see that these days.